• UNIONS WORK

    From Ja-Son-Wan-Kenobi Has the High Grou@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 30 16:28:38 2023
    UAW-Ford deal nets union big wins on wages, benefits, investments
    By Joseph White and David Shepardson
    October 30, 20231:14 AM EDTUpdated 18 hours ago



    DETROIT, Oct 29 (Reuters) - United Auto Workers leaders approved a tentative deal on Sunday with Ford (F.N) that includes a pay hike of at least 30% for full-time workers and could more than double pay for others, in a victory for the union's fight to
    roll back 15 years of concessions.

    Bargaining continued at General Motors (GM.N) without any deal. UAW President Shawn Fain on Saturday ordered a walkout at GM's Spring Hill, Tennessee, engine and assembly plant. Fain and GM CEO Mary Barra were meeting on Sunday night, sources familiar
    with the process said.

    At Ford, the new deal includes $8.1 billion in manufacturing investments and could give workers up to $70,000 in extra pay over the 4-1/2-year life of the contract.

    Cost-saving provisions such as paying workers at component plants less than employees at vehicle assembly lines were swept away under the new contract. The deal also eliminates all lower wage tier plants, an issue Fain highlighted from the start of the
    bargaining process.

    Temporary workers will more than double their pay. Permanent workers could see top wage rates rise by more than 30% to $42.60 per hour by 2028, including estimated cost of living allowances.

    In return, Ford will get the opportunity to offer an unlimited number of $50,000 buyouts to older workers earning the top rate. Ford can now replace them with younger hires who will earn less than the top wage for three years. Earlier, it took new
    workers eight years to reach top wage.

    "It is a turning point in the class war that has been raging in this country for the past 40 years," Fain said on a video post on Sunday.

    He credited the rich contract to the union's strategy of escalating pressure on Ford with a series of targeted strikes over six weeks: "This contract demonstrates the incredible power workers have when they are not afraid to use it."

    The union did back off some of its early demands that included a 32-hour work week, restoring defined benefit pensions and a 40% pay rise over the life of the contract.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 30 21:40:32 2023
    In article <76a3ae0d-3969-4501-bd29-55ff28fac052n@googlegroups.com>, davidbrown20782@gmail.com says...

    UAW-Ford deal nets union big wins on wages, benefits, investments
    By Joseph White and David Shepardson
    October 30, 20231:14 AM EDTUpdated 18 hours ago



    DETROIT, Oct 29 (Reuters) - United Auto Workers leaders approved a tentative deal on Sunday with Ford (F.N) that includes a pay hike of at least 30% for full-time workers and could more than double pay for others, in a victory for the union's fight to
    roll back 15 years of concessions.

    Bargaining continued at General Motors (GM.N) without any deal. UAW President Shawn Fain on Saturday ordered a walkout at GM's Spring Hill, Tennessee, engine and assembly plant. Fain and GM CEO Mary Barra were meeting on Sunday night, sources familiar
    with the process said.

    At Ford, the new deal includes $8.1 billion in manufacturing investments and could give workers up to $70,000 in extra pay over the 4-1/2-year life of the contract.

    Cost-saving provisions such as paying workers at component plants less than employees at vehicle assembly lines were swept away under the new contract. The deal also eliminates all lower wage tier plants, an issue Fain highlighted from the start of the
    bargaining process.

    Temporary workers will more than double their pay. Permanent workers could see top wage rates rise by more than 30% to $42.60 per hour by 2028, including estimated cost of living allowances.

    In return, Ford will get the opportunity to offer an unlimited number of $50,000 buyouts to older workers earning the top rate. Ford can now replace them with younger hires who will earn less than the top wage for three years. Earlier, it took new
    workers eight years to reach top wage.

    "It is a turning point in the class war that has been raging in this country for the past 40 years," Fain said on a video post on Sunday.

    He credited the rich contract to the union's strategy of escalating pressure on Ford with a series of targeted strikes over six weeks: "This contract demonstrates the incredible power workers have when they are not afraid to use it."

    The union did back off some of its early demands that included a 32-hour work week, restoring defined benefit pensions and a 40% pay rise over the life of the contract.

    What does this have to do with wrestling?

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  • From Ja-Son-Wan-Kenobi Has the High Grou@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Mon Oct 30 21:09:43 2023
    On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 11:40:37 PM UTC-4, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <76a3ae0d-3969-4501...@googlegroups.com>,
    davidbr...@gmail.com says...

    UAW-Ford deal nets union big wins on wages, benefits, investments
    By Joseph White and David Shepardson
    October 30, 20231:14 AM EDTUpdated 18 hours ago



    DETROIT, Oct 29 (Reuters) - United Auto Workers leaders approved a tentative deal on Sunday with Ford (F.N) that includes a pay hike of at least 30% for full-time workers and could more than double pay for others, in a victory for the union's fight
    to roll back 15 years of concessions.

    Bargaining continued at General Motors (GM.N) without any deal. UAW President Shawn Fain on Saturday ordered a walkout at GM's Spring Hill, Tennessee, engine and assembly plant. Fain and GM CEO Mary Barra were meeting on Sunday night, sources
    familiar with the process said.

    At Ford, the new deal includes $8.1 billion in manufacturing investments and could give workers up to $70,000 in extra pay over the 4-1/2-year life of the contract.

    Cost-saving provisions such as paying workers at component plants less than employees at vehicle assembly lines were swept away under the new contract. The deal also eliminates all lower wage tier plants, an issue Fain highlighted from the start of
    the bargaining process.

    Temporary workers will more than double their pay. Permanent workers could see top wage rates rise by more than 30% to $42.60 per hour by 2028, including estimated cost of living allowances.

    In return, Ford will get the opportunity to offer an unlimited number of $50,000 buyouts to older workers earning the top rate. Ford can now replace them with younger hires who will earn less than the top wage for three years. Earlier, it took new
    workers eight years to reach top wage.

    "It is a turning point in the class war that has been raging in this country for the past 40 years," Fain said on a video post on Sunday.

    He credited the rich contract to the union's strategy of escalating pressure on Ford with a series of targeted strikes over six weeks: "This contract demonstrates the incredible power workers have when they are not afraid to use it."

    The union did back off some of its early demands that included a 32-hour work week, restoring defined benefit pensions and a 40% pay rise over the life of the contract.
    What does this have to do with wrestling?

    Just can't say "Gosh Jason you were right!" can you?

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 30 23:16:11 2023
    In article <8e9e6858-fdf6-4190-bfad-a0b083a9dedan@googlegroups.com>, davidbrown20782@gmail.com says...

    On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 11:40:37 PM UTC-4, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <76a3ae0d-3969-4501...@googlegroups.com>,
    davidbr...@gmail.com says...

    UAW-Ford deal nets union big wins on wages, benefits, investments
    By Joseph White and David Shepardson
    October 30, 20231:14 AM EDTUpdated 18 hours ago



    DETROIT, Oct 29 (Reuters) - United Auto Workers leaders approved a tentative deal on Sunday with Ford (F.N) that includes a pay hike of at least 30% for full-time workers and could more than double pay for others, in a victory for the union's fight
    to roll back 15 years of concessions.

    Bargaining continued at General Motors (GM.N) without any deal. UAW President Shawn Fain on Saturday ordered a walkout at GM's Spring Hill, Tennessee, engine and assembly plant. Fain and GM CEO Mary Barra were meeting on Sunday night, sources
    familiar with the process said.

    At Ford, the new deal includes $8.1 billion in manufacturing investments and could give workers up to $70,000 in extra pay over the 4-1/2-year life of the contract.

    Cost-saving provisions such as paying workers at component plants less than employees at vehicle assembly lines were swept away under the new contract. The deal also eliminates all lower wage tier plants, an issue Fain highlighted from the start of
    the bargaining process.

    Temporary workers will more than double their pay. Permanent workers could see top wage rates rise by more than 30% to $42.60 per hour by 2028, including estimated cost of living allowances.

    In return, Ford will get the opportunity to offer an unlimited number of $50,000 buyouts to older workers earning the top rate. Ford can now replace them with younger hires who will earn less than the top wage for three years. Earlier, it took new
    workers eight years to reach top wage.

    "It is a turning point in the class war that has been raging in this country for the past 40 years," Fain said on a video post on Sunday.

    He credited the rich contract to the union's strategy of escalating pressure on Ford with a series of targeted strikes over six weeks: "This contract demonstrates the incredible power workers have when they are not afraid to use it."

    The union did back off some of its early demands that included a 32-hour work week, restoring defined benefit pensions and a 40% pay rise over the life of the contract.
    What does this have to do with wrestling?

    Just can't say "Gosh Jason you were right!" can you?


    Right about what? I didn't even read it.

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  • From James Owen@21:1/5 to Ja-Son-Wan-Kenobi Has the High Grou on Tue Oct 31 10:11:24 2023
    Ja-Son-Wan-Kenobi Has the High Ground <davidbrown20782@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 11:40:37 PM UTC-4, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <76a3ae0d-3969-4501...@googlegroups.com>,
    davidbr...@gmail.com says...

    UAW-Ford deal nets union big wins on wages, benefits, investments
    By Joseph White and David Shepardson
    October 30, 20231:14 AM EDTUpdated 18 hours ago



    DETROIT, Oct 29 (Reuters) - United Auto Workers leaders approved a
    tentative deal on Sunday with Ford (F.N) that includes a pay hike of at
    least 30% for full-time workers and could more than double pay for
    others, in a victory for the union's fight to roll back 15 years of concessions.

    Bargaining continued at General Motors (GM.N) without any deal. UAW
    President Shawn Fain on Saturday ordered a walkout at GM's Spring Hill,
    Tennessee, engine and assembly plant. Fain and GM CEO Mary Barra were
    meeting on Sunday night, sources familiar with the process said.

    At Ford, the new deal includes $8.1 billion in manufacturing
    investments and could give workers up to $70,000 in extra pay over the
    4-1/2-year life of the contract.

    Cost-saving provisions such as paying workers at component plants less
    than employees at vehicle assembly lines were swept away under the new
    contract. The deal also eliminates all lower wage tier plants, an issue
    Fain highlighted from the start of the bargaining process.

    Temporary workers will more than double their pay. Permanent workers
    could see top wage rates rise by more than 30% to $42.60 per hour by
    2028, including estimated cost of living allowances.

    In return, Ford will get the opportunity to offer an unlimited number
    of $50,000 buyouts to older workers earning the top rate. Ford can now
    replace them with younger hires who will earn less than the top wage
    for three years. Earlier, it took new workers eight years to reach top wage.

    "It is a turning point in the class war that has been raging in this
    country for the past 40 years," Fain said on a video post on Sunday.

    He credited the rich contract to the union's strategy of escalating
    pressure on Ford with a series of targeted strikes over six weeks:
    "This contract demonstrates the incredible power workers have when they
    are not afraid to use it."

    The union did back off some of its early demands that included a
    32-hour work week, restoring defined benefit pensions and a 40% pay
    rise over the life of the contract.
    What does this have to do with wrestling?

    Just can't say "Gosh Jason you were right!" can you?


    I know teenage girls who aren’t as desperate for validation and friends as you are.

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  • From Jebediah Grainger@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Tue Oct 31 09:56:43 2023
    On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 1:16:16 AM UTC-4, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <8e9e6858-fdf6-4190...@googlegroups.com>,
    davidbr...@gmail.com says...

    On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 11:40:37 PM UTC-4, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <76a3ae0d-3969-4501...@googlegroups.com>, davidbr...@gmail.com says...

    UAW-Ford deal nets union big wins on wages, benefits, investments
    By Joseph White and David Shepardson
    October 30, 20231:14 AM EDTUpdated 18 hours ago



    DETROIT, Oct 29 (Reuters) - United Auto Workers leaders approved a tentative deal on Sunday with Ford (F.N) that includes a pay hike of at least 30% for full-time workers and could more than double pay for others, in a victory for the union's
    fight to roll back 15 years of concessions.

    Bargaining continued at General Motors (GM.N) without any deal. UAW President Shawn Fain on Saturday ordered a walkout at GM's Spring Hill, Tennessee, engine and assembly plant. Fain and GM CEO Mary Barra were meeting on Sunday night, sources
    familiar with the process said.

    At Ford, the new deal includes $8.1 billion in manufacturing investments and could give workers up to $70,000 in extra pay over the 4-1/2-year life of the contract.

    Cost-saving provisions such as paying workers at component plants less than employees at vehicle assembly lines were swept away under the new contract. The deal also eliminates all lower wage tier plants, an issue Fain highlighted from the start
    of the bargaining process.

    Temporary workers will more than double their pay. Permanent workers could see top wage rates rise by more than 30% to $42.60 per hour by 2028, including estimated cost of living allowances.

    In return, Ford will get the opportunity to offer an unlimited number of $50,000 buyouts to older workers earning the top rate. Ford can now replace them with younger hires who will earn less than the top wage for three years. Earlier, it took
    new workers eight years to reach top wage.

    "It is a turning point in the class war that has been raging in this country for the past 40 years," Fain said on a video post on Sunday.

    He credited the rich contract to the union's strategy of escalating pressure on Ford with a series of targeted strikes over six weeks: "This contract demonstrates the incredible power workers have when they are not afraid to use it."

    The union did back off some of its early demands that included a 32-hour work week, restoring defined benefit pensions and a 40% pay rise over the life of the contract.
    What does this have to do with wrestling?

    Just can't say "Gosh Jason you were right!" can you?
    Right about what? I didn't even read it.


    Par for the course.

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  • From P-Dub@21:1/5 to Ja-Son-Wan-Kenobi Has the High Grou on Tue Oct 31 10:43:55 2023
    On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 7:28:41 PM UTC-4, Ja-Son-Wan-Kenobi Has the High Ground wrote:
    UAW-Ford deal nets union big wins on wages, benefits, investments
    By Joseph White and David Shepardson
    October 30, 20231:14 AM EDTUpdated 18 hours ago



    DETROIT, Oct 29 (Reuters) - United Auto Workers leaders approved a tentative deal on Sunday with Ford (F.N) that includes a pay hike of at least 30% for full-time workers and could more than double pay for others, in a victory for the union's fight to
    roll back 15 years of concessions.

    Bargaining continued at General Motors (GM.N) without any deal. UAW President Shawn Fain on Saturday ordered a walkout at GM's Spring Hill, Tennessee, engine and assembly plant. Fain and GM CEO Mary Barra were meeting on Sunday night, sources familiar
    with the process said.

    At Ford, the new deal includes $8.1 billion in manufacturing investments and could give workers up to $70,000 in extra pay over the 4-1/2-year life of the contract.

    Cost-saving provisions such as paying workers at component plants less than employees at vehicle assembly lines were swept away under the new contract. The deal also eliminates all lower wage tier plants, an issue Fain highlighted from the start of the
    bargaining process.

    Temporary workers will more than double their pay. Permanent workers could see top wage rates rise by more than 30% to $42.60 per hour by 2028, including estimated cost of living allowances.

    In return, Ford will get the opportunity to offer an unlimited number of $50,000 buyouts to older workers earning the top rate. Ford can now replace them with younger hires who will earn less than the top wage for three years. Earlier, it took new
    workers eight years to reach top wage.

    "It is a turning point in the class war that has been raging in this country for the past 40 years," Fain said on a video post on Sunday.

    He credited the rich contract to the union's strategy of escalating pressure on Ford with a series of targeted strikes over six weeks: "This contract demonstrates the incredible power workers have when they are not afraid to use it."

    The union did back off some of its early demands that included a 32-hour work week, restoring defined benefit pensions and a 40% pay rise over the life of the contract.

    Unions were absolutely necessary in the early and mid 1900s. However, the way they currently operate is destroying the economy. With the UAW, UPS, and the actors - they have us by the balls. If we don't bend over backward to appease them - they will shut
    down stuff we want. Union tactics are highly effective. But the companies that have to pay for their demands are hurting, and may shut down. Thus - these highly overpaid workers will end up unemployed.

    My favorite example is Yellow Freight. They were a huge national logistics company. They were probably the biggest. They are now out of business - and that's 100% because of the union. Thousands of drivers were fired. They had to suddenly find jobs.
    Fortunately, most of them will find jobs. But they will not be getting the benefits and pay they thought they were going to get. And many will lose their pensions.

    Expect the Yellow Freight disaster to come to UAW workers. There actually is a limit to how much you can make in a car factory. And the actors won't be very happy if, for example, Paramount shuts down.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 31 11:49:56 2023
    In article <3a625313-ef86-4cc7-829c-1a92e3424509n@googlegroups.com>, jebediah.grainger2@gmail.com says...

    On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 1:16:16 AM UTC-4, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <8e9e6858-fdf6-4190...@googlegroups.com>,
    davidbr...@gmail.com says...

    On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 11:40:37 PM UTC-4, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <76a3ae0d-3969-4501...@googlegroups.com>, davidbr...@gmail.com says...

    UAW-Ford deal nets union big wins on wages, benefits, investments
    By Joseph White and David Shepardson
    October 30, 20231:14 AM EDTUpdated 18 hours ago



    DETROIT, Oct 29 (Reuters) - United Auto Workers leaders approved a tentative deal on Sunday with Ford (F.N) that includes a pay hike of at least 30% for full-time workers and could more than double pay for others, in a victory for the union's
    fight to roll back 15 years of concessions.

    Bargaining continued at General Motors (GM.N) without any deal. UAW President Shawn Fain on Saturday ordered a walkout at GM's Spring Hill, Tennessee, engine and assembly plant. Fain and GM CEO Mary Barra were meeting on Sunday night, sources
    familiar with the process said.

    At Ford, the new deal includes $8.1 billion in manufacturing investments and could give workers up to $70,000 in extra pay over the 4-1/2-year life of the contract.

    Cost-saving provisions such as paying workers at component plants less than employees at vehicle assembly lines were swept away under the new contract. The deal also eliminates all lower wage tier plants, an issue Fain highlighted from the
    start of the bargaining process.

    Temporary workers will more than double their pay. Permanent workers could see top wage rates rise by more than 30% to $42.60 per hour by 2028, including estimated cost of living allowances.

    In return, Ford will get the opportunity to offer an unlimited number of $50,000 buyouts to older workers earning the top rate. Ford can now replace them with younger hires who will earn less than the top wage for three years. Earlier, it took
    new workers eight years to reach top wage.

    "It is a turning point in the class war that has been raging in this country for the past 40 years," Fain said on a video post on Sunday.

    He credited the rich contract to the union's strategy of escalating pressure on Ford with a series of targeted strikes over six weeks: "This contract demonstrates the incredible power workers have when they are not afraid to use it."

    The union did back off some of its early demands that included a 32-hour work week, restoring defined benefit pensions and a 40% pay rise over the life of the contract.
    What does this have to do with wrestling?

    Just can't say "Gosh Jason you were right!" can you?
    Right about what? I didn't even read it.


    Par for the course.

    You post shit no one cares about then cry when they won't play your
    game.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 31 11:50:57 2023
    In article <uhqjsc$104df$1@dont-email.me>, morons@mormonia.com says...

    Ja-Son-Wan-Kenobi Has the High Ground <davidbrown20782@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 11:40:37 PM UTC-4, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <76a3ae0d-3969-4501...@googlegroups.com>,
    davidbr...@gmail.com says...

    UAW-Ford deal nets union big wins on wages, benefits, investments
    By Joseph White and David Shepardson
    October 30, 20231:14 AM EDTUpdated 18 hours ago



    DETROIT, Oct 29 (Reuters) - United Auto Workers leaders approved a
    tentative deal on Sunday with Ford (F.N) that includes a pay hike of at >>> least 30% for full-time workers and could more than double pay for
    others, in a victory for the union's fight to roll back 15 years of concessions.

    Bargaining continued at General Motors (GM.N) without any deal. UAW
    President Shawn Fain on Saturday ordered a walkout at GM's Spring Hill, >>> Tennessee, engine and assembly plant. Fain and GM CEO Mary Barra were
    meeting on Sunday night, sources familiar with the process said.

    At Ford, the new deal includes $8.1 billion in manufacturing
    investments and could give workers up to $70,000 in extra pay over the >>> 4-1/2-year life of the contract.

    Cost-saving provisions such as paying workers at component plants less >>> than employees at vehicle assembly lines were swept away under the new >>> contract. The deal also eliminates all lower wage tier plants, an issue >>> Fain highlighted from the start of the bargaining process.

    Temporary workers will more than double their pay. Permanent workers
    could see top wage rates rise by more than 30% to $42.60 per hour by
    2028, including estimated cost of living allowances.

    In return, Ford will get the opportunity to offer an unlimited number
    of $50,000 buyouts to older workers earning the top rate. Ford can now >>> replace them with younger hires who will earn less than the top wage
    for three years. Earlier, it took new workers eight years to reach top wage.

    "It is a turning point in the class war that has been raging in this
    country for the past 40 years," Fain said on a video post on Sunday.

    He credited the rich contract to the union's strategy of escalating
    pressure on Ford with a series of targeted strikes over six weeks:
    "This contract demonstrates the incredible power workers have when they >>> are not afraid to use it."

    The union did back off some of its early demands that included a
    32-hour work week, restoring defined benefit pensions and a 40% pay
    rise over the life of the contract.
    What does this have to do with wrestling?

    Just can't say "Gosh Jason you were right!" can you?


    I know teenage girls who aren?t as desperate for validation and friends as you are.

    He's had to much coffee.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From James Owen@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Tue Oct 31 19:46:49 2023
    Skeeter <Skeeterweed@proton.me> wrote:
    In article <uhqjsc$104df$1@dont-email.me>, morons@mormonia.com says...

    Ja-Son-Wan-Kenobi Has the High Ground <davidbrown20782@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 11:40:37 PM UTC-4, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <76a3ae0d-3969-4501...@googlegroups.com>,
    davidbr...@gmail.com says...

    UAW-Ford deal nets union big wins on wages, benefits, investments
    By Joseph White and David Shepardson
    October 30, 20231:14 AM EDTUpdated 18 hours ago



    DETROIT, Oct 29 (Reuters) - United Auto Workers leaders approved a
    tentative deal on Sunday with Ford (F.N) that includes a pay hike of at >>>>> least 30% for full-time workers and could more than double pay for
    others, in a victory for the union's fight to roll back 15 years of concessions.

    Bargaining continued at General Motors (GM.N) without any deal. UAW
    President Shawn Fain on Saturday ordered a walkout at GM's Spring Hill, >>>>> Tennessee, engine and assembly plant. Fain and GM CEO Mary Barra were >>>>> meeting on Sunday night, sources familiar with the process said.

    At Ford, the new deal includes $8.1 billion in manufacturing
    investments and could give workers up to $70,000 in extra pay over the >>>>> 4-1/2-year life of the contract.

    Cost-saving provisions such as paying workers at component plants less >>>>> than employees at vehicle assembly lines were swept away under the new >>>>> contract. The deal also eliminates all lower wage tier plants, an issue >>>>> Fain highlighted from the start of the bargaining process.

    Temporary workers will more than double their pay. Permanent workers >>>>> could see top wage rates rise by more than 30% to $42.60 per hour by >>>>> 2028, including estimated cost of living allowances.

    In return, Ford will get the opportunity to offer an unlimited number >>>>> of $50,000 buyouts to older workers earning the top rate. Ford can now >>>>> replace them with younger hires who will earn less than the top wage >>>>> for three years. Earlier, it took new workers eight years to reach top wage.

    "It is a turning point in the class war that has been raging in this >>>>> country for the past 40 years," Fain said on a video post on Sunday. >>>>>
    He credited the rich contract to the union's strategy of escalating
    pressure on Ford with a series of targeted strikes over six weeks:
    "This contract demonstrates the incredible power workers have when they >>>>> are not afraid to use it."

    The union did back off some of its early demands that included a
    32-hour work week, restoring defined benefit pensions and a 40% pay
    rise over the life of the contract.
    What does this have to do with wrestling?

    Just can't say "Gosh Jason you were right!" can you?


    I know teenage girls who aren?t as desperate for validation and friends as >> you are.

    He's had to much coffee.


    Nevermind the caffeine. He desperately needs some testosterone.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From %@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Tue Oct 31 12:51:37 2023
    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <76a3ae0d-3969-4501-bd29-55ff28fac052n@googlegroups.com>, davidbrown20782@gmail.com says...

    UAW-Ford deal nets union big wins on wages, benefits, investments
    By Joseph White and David Shepardson
    October 30, 20231:14 AM EDTUpdated 18 hours ago



    DETROIT, Oct 29 (Reuters) - United Auto Workers leaders approved a tentative deal on Sunday with Ford (F.N) that includes a pay hike of at least 30% for full-time workers and could more than double pay for others, in a victory for the union's fight to
    roll back 15 years of concessions.

    Bargaining continued at General Motors (GM.N) without any deal. UAW President Shawn Fain on Saturday ordered a walkout at GM's Spring Hill, Tennessee, engine and assembly plant. Fain and GM CEO Mary Barra were meeting on Sunday night, sources familiar
    with the process said.

    At Ford, the new deal includes $8.1 billion in manufacturing investments and could give workers up to $70,000 in extra pay over the 4-1/2-year life of the contract.

    Cost-saving provisions such as paying workers at component plants less than employees at vehicle assembly lines were swept away under the new contract. The deal also eliminates all lower wage tier plants, an issue Fain highlighted from the start of
    the bargaining process.

    Temporary workers will more than double their pay. Permanent workers could see top wage rates rise by more than 30% to $42.60 per hour by 2028, including estimated cost of living allowances.

    In return, Ford will get the opportunity to offer an unlimited number of $50,000 buyouts to older workers earning the top rate. Ford can now replace them with younger hires who will earn less than the top wage for three years. Earlier, it took new
    workers eight years to reach top wage.

    "It is a turning point in the class war that has been raging in this country for the past 40 years," Fain said on a video post on Sunday.

    He credited the rich contract to the union's strategy of escalating pressure on Ford with a series of targeted strikes over six weeks: "This contract demonstrates the incredible power workers have when they are not afraid to use it."

    The union did back off some of its early demands that included a 32-hour work week, restoring defined benefit pensions and a 40% pay rise over the life of the contract.

    What does this have to do with wrestling?

    if a usenet union starts ,
    i'll have all the seniority

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From James Owen@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Tue Oct 31 21:00:32 2023
    % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:
    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <76a3ae0d-3969-4501-bd29-55ff28fac052n@googlegroups.com>,
    davidbrown20782@gmail.com says...

    UAW-Ford deal nets union big wins on wages, benefits, investments
    By Joseph White and David Shepardson
    October 30, 20231:14 AM EDTUpdated 18 hours ago



    DETROIT, Oct 29 (Reuters) - United Auto Workers leaders approved a
    tentative deal on Sunday with Ford (F.N) that includes a pay hike of at
    least 30% for full-time workers and could more than double pay for
    others, in a victory for the union's fight to roll back 15 years of concessions.

    Bargaining continued at General Motors (GM.N) without any deal. UAW
    President Shawn Fain on Saturday ordered a walkout at GM's Spring Hill,
    Tennessee, engine and assembly plant. Fain and GM CEO Mary Barra were
    meeting on Sunday night, sources familiar with the process said.

    At Ford, the new deal includes $8.1 billion in manufacturing
    investments and could give workers up to $70,000 in extra pay over the
    4-1/2-year life of the contract.

    Cost-saving provisions such as paying workers at component plants less
    than employees at vehicle assembly lines were swept away under the new
    contract. The deal also eliminates all lower wage tier plants, an issue
    Fain highlighted from the start of the bargaining process.

    Temporary workers will more than double their pay. Permanent workers
    could see top wage rates rise by more than 30% to $42.60 per hour by
    2028, including estimated cost of living allowances.

    In return, Ford will get the opportunity to offer an unlimited number
    of $50,000 buyouts to older workers earning the top rate. Ford can now
    replace them with younger hires who will earn less than the top wage
    for three years. Earlier, it took new workers eight years to reach top wage.

    "It is a turning point in the class war that has been raging in this
    country for the past 40 years," Fain said on a video post on Sunday.

    He credited the rich contract to the union's strategy of escalating
    pressure on Ford with a series of targeted strikes over six weeks:
    "This contract demonstrates the incredible power workers have when they
    are not afraid to use it."

    The union did back off some of its early demands that included a
    32-hour work week, restoring defined benefit pensions and a 40% pay
    rise over the life of the contract.

    What does this have to do with wrestling?

    if a usenet union starts ,
    i'll have all the seniority


    Yes, yes, yes.

    You should be very proud of having accumulated the biggest set of Pokémon cards in the entire group.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From %@21:1/5 to James Owen on Tue Oct 31 14:10:06 2023
    James Owen wrote:
    % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:
    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <76a3ae0d-3969-4501-bd29-55ff28fac052n@googlegroups.com>,
    davidbrown20782@gmail.com says...

    UAW-Ford deal nets union big wins on wages, benefits, investments
    By Joseph White and David Shepardson
    October 30, 20231:14 AM EDTUpdated 18 hours ago



    DETROIT, Oct 29 (Reuters) - United Auto Workers leaders approved a
    tentative deal on Sunday with Ford (F.N) that includes a pay hike of at >>>> least 30% for full-time workers and could more than double pay for
    others, in a victory for the union's fight to roll back 15 years of concessions.

    Bargaining continued at General Motors (GM.N) without any deal. UAW
    President Shawn Fain on Saturday ordered a walkout at GM's Spring Hill, >>>> Tennessee, engine and assembly plant. Fain and GM CEO Mary Barra were
    meeting on Sunday night, sources familiar with the process said.

    At Ford, the new deal includes $8.1 billion in manufacturing
    investments and could give workers up to $70,000 in extra pay over the >>>> 4-1/2-year life of the contract.

    Cost-saving provisions such as paying workers at component plants less >>>> than employees at vehicle assembly lines were swept away under the new >>>> contract. The deal also eliminates all lower wage tier plants, an issue >>>> Fain highlighted from the start of the bargaining process.

    Temporary workers will more than double their pay. Permanent workers
    could see top wage rates rise by more than 30% to $42.60 per hour by
    2028, including estimated cost of living allowances.

    In return, Ford will get the opportunity to offer an unlimited number
    of $50,000 buyouts to older workers earning the top rate. Ford can now >>>> replace them with younger hires who will earn less than the top wage
    for three years. Earlier, it took new workers eight years to reach top wage.

    "It is a turning point in the class war that has been raging in this
    country for the past 40 years," Fain said on a video post on Sunday.

    He credited the rich contract to the union's strategy of escalating
    pressure on Ford with a series of targeted strikes over six weeks:
    "This contract demonstrates the incredible power workers have when they >>>> are not afraid to use it."

    The union did back off some of its early demands that included a
    32-hour work week, restoring defined benefit pensions and a 40% pay
    rise over the life of the contract.

    What does this have to do with wrestling?

    if a usenet union starts ,
    i'll have all the seniority


    Yes, yes, yes.

    You should be very proud of having accumulated the biggest set of Pokémon cards in the entire group.

    don't hate me because my life and possessions are better than yours

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 31 15:41:57 2023
    In article <8CadnbbUUJhUx9z4nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>, pursent100 @gmail.com says...

    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <76a3ae0d-3969-4501-bd29-55ff28fac052n@googlegroups.com>, davidbrown20782@gmail.com says...

    UAW-Ford deal nets union big wins on wages, benefits, investments
    By Joseph White and David Shepardson
    October 30, 20231:14 AM EDTUpdated 18 hours ago



    DETROIT, Oct 29 (Reuters) - United Auto Workers leaders approved a tentative deal on Sunday with Ford (F.N) that includes a pay hike of at least 30% for full-time workers and could more than double pay for others, in a victory for the union's fight
    to roll back 15 years of concessions.

    Bargaining continued at General Motors (GM.N) without any deal. UAW President Shawn Fain on Saturday ordered a walkout at GM's Spring Hill, Tennessee, engine and assembly plant. Fain and GM CEO Mary Barra were meeting on Sunday night, sources
    familiar with the process said.

    At Ford, the new deal includes $8.1 billion in manufacturing investments and could give workers up to $70,000 in extra pay over the 4-1/2-year life of the contract.

    Cost-saving provisions such as paying workers at component plants less than employees at vehicle assembly lines were swept away under the new contract. The deal also eliminates all lower wage tier plants, an issue Fain highlighted from the start of
    the bargaining process.

    Temporary workers will more than double their pay. Permanent workers could see top wage rates rise by more than 30% to $42.60 per hour by 2028, including estimated cost of living allowances.

    In return, Ford will get the opportunity to offer an unlimited number of $50,000 buyouts to older workers earning the top rate. Ford can now replace them with younger hires who will earn less than the top wage for three years. Earlier, it took new
    workers eight years to reach top wage.

    "It is a turning point in the class war that has been raging in this country for the past 40 years," Fain said on a video post on Sunday.

    He credited the rich contract to the union's strategy of escalating pressure on Ford with a series of targeted strikes over six weeks: "This contract demonstrates the incredible power workers have when they are not afraid to use it."

    The union did back off some of its early demands that included a 32-hour work week, restoring defined benefit pensions and a 40% pay rise over the life of the contract.

    What does this have to do with wrestling?

    if a usenet union starts ,
    i'll have all the seniority

    like hoffa

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From %@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Tue Oct 31 15:00:05 2023
    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <8CadnbbUUJhUx9z4nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>, pursent100 @gmail.com says...

    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <76a3ae0d-3969-4501-bd29-55ff28fac052n@googlegroups.com>,
    davidbrown20782@gmail.com says...

    UAW-Ford deal nets union big wins on wages, benefits, investments
    By Joseph White and David Shepardson
    October 30, 20231:14 AM EDTUpdated 18 hours ago



    DETROIT, Oct 29 (Reuters) - United Auto Workers leaders approved a tentative deal on Sunday with Ford (F.N) that includes a pay hike of at least 30% for full-time workers and could more than double pay for others, in a victory for the union's fight
    to roll back 15 years of concessions.

    Bargaining continued at General Motors (GM.N) without any deal. UAW President Shawn Fain on Saturday ordered a walkout at GM's Spring Hill, Tennessee, engine and assembly plant. Fain and GM CEO Mary Barra were meeting on Sunday night, sources
    familiar with the process said.

    At Ford, the new deal includes $8.1 billion in manufacturing investments and could give workers up to $70,000 in extra pay over the 4-1/2-year life of the contract.

    Cost-saving provisions such as paying workers at component plants less than employees at vehicle assembly lines were swept away under the new contract. The deal also eliminates all lower wage tier plants, an issue Fain highlighted from the start of
    the bargaining process.

    Temporary workers will more than double their pay. Permanent workers could see top wage rates rise by more than 30% to $42.60 per hour by 2028, including estimated cost of living allowances.

    In return, Ford will get the opportunity to offer an unlimited number of $50,000 buyouts to older workers earning the top rate. Ford can now replace them with younger hires who will earn less than the top wage for three years. Earlier, it took new
    workers eight years to reach top wage.

    "It is a turning point in the class war that has been raging in this country for the past 40 years," Fain said on a video post on Sunday.

    He credited the rich contract to the union's strategy of escalating pressure on Ford with a series of targeted strikes over six weeks: "This contract demonstrates the incredible power workers have when they are not afraid to use it."

    The union did back off some of its early demands that included a 32-hour work week, restoring defined benefit pensions and a 40% pay rise over the life of the contract.

    What does this have to do with wrestling?

    if a usenet union starts ,
    i'll have all the seniority

    like hoffa

    like john gotti

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 31 18:00:17 2023
    In article <s9Ccndkkd4p55dz4nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com>, pursent100 @gmail.com says...

    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <8CadnbbUUJhUx9z4nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>, pursent100 @gmail.com says...

    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <76a3ae0d-3969-4501-bd29-55ff28fac052n@googlegroups.com>,
    davidbrown20782@gmail.com says...

    UAW-Ford deal nets union big wins on wages, benefits, investments
    By Joseph White and David Shepardson
    October 30, 20231:14 AM EDTUpdated 18 hours ago



    DETROIT, Oct 29 (Reuters) - United Auto Workers leaders approved a tentative deal on Sunday with Ford (F.N) that includes a pay hike of at least 30% for full-time workers and could more than double pay for others, in a victory for the union's
    fight to roll back 15 years of concessions.

    Bargaining continued at General Motors (GM.N) without any deal. UAW President Shawn Fain on Saturday ordered a walkout at GM's Spring Hill, Tennessee, engine and assembly plant. Fain and GM CEO Mary Barra were meeting on Sunday night, sources
    familiar with the process said.

    At Ford, the new deal includes $8.1 billion in manufacturing investments and could give workers up to $70,000 in extra pay over the 4-1/2-year life of the contract.

    Cost-saving provisions such as paying workers at component plants less than employees at vehicle assembly lines were swept away under the new contract. The deal also eliminates all lower wage tier plants, an issue Fain highlighted from the start
    of the bargaining process.

    Temporary workers will more than double their pay. Permanent workers could see top wage rates rise by more than 30% to $42.60 per hour by 2028, including estimated cost of living allowances.

    In return, Ford will get the opportunity to offer an unlimited number of $50,000 buyouts to older workers earning the top rate. Ford can now replace them with younger hires who will earn less than the top wage for three years. Earlier, it took new
    workers eight years to reach top wage.

    "It is a turning point in the class war that has been raging in this country for the past 40 years," Fain said on a video post on Sunday.

    He credited the rich contract to the union's strategy of escalating pressure on Ford with a series of targeted strikes over six weeks: "This contract demonstrates the incredible power workers have when they are not afraid to use it."

    The union did back off some of its early demands that included a 32-hour work week, restoring defined benefit pensions and a 40% pay rise over the life of the contract.

    What does this have to do with wrestling?

    if a usenet union starts ,
    i'll have all the seniority

    like hoffa

    like john gotti

    the teflon don

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From %@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Tue Oct 31 18:22:14 2023
    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <s9Ccndkkd4p55dz4nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com>, pursent100 @gmail.com says...

    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <8CadnbbUUJhUx9z4nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>, pursent100
    @gmail.com says...

    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <76a3ae0d-3969-4501-bd29-55ff28fac052n@googlegroups.com>, >>>>> davidbrown20782@gmail.com says...

    UAW-Ford deal nets union big wins on wages, benefits, investments
    By Joseph White and David Shepardson
    October 30, 20231:14 AM EDTUpdated 18 hours ago



    DETROIT, Oct 29 (Reuters) - United Auto Workers leaders approved a tentative deal on Sunday with Ford (F.N) that includes a pay hike of at least 30% for full-time workers and could more than double pay for others, in a victory for the union's
    fight to roll back 15 years of concessions.

    Bargaining continued at General Motors (GM.N) without any deal. UAW President Shawn Fain on Saturday ordered a walkout at GM's Spring Hill, Tennessee, engine and assembly plant. Fain and GM CEO Mary Barra were meeting on Sunday night, sources
    familiar with the process said.

    At Ford, the new deal includes $8.1 billion in manufacturing investments and could give workers up to $70,000 in extra pay over the 4-1/2-year life of the contract.

    Cost-saving provisions such as paying workers at component plants less than employees at vehicle assembly lines were swept away under the new contract. The deal also eliminates all lower wage tier plants, an issue Fain highlighted from the start
    of the bargaining process.

    Temporary workers will more than double their pay. Permanent workers could see top wage rates rise by more than 30% to $42.60 per hour by 2028, including estimated cost of living allowances.

    In return, Ford will get the opportunity to offer an unlimited number of $50,000 buyouts to older workers earning the top rate. Ford can now replace them with younger hires who will earn less than the top wage for three years. Earlier, it took new
    workers eight years to reach top wage.

    "It is a turning point in the class war that has been raging in this country for the past 40 years," Fain said on a video post on Sunday.

    He credited the rich contract to the union's strategy of escalating pressure on Ford with a series of targeted strikes over six weeks: "This contract demonstrates the incredible power workers have when they are not afraid to use it."

    The union did back off some of its early demands that included a 32-hour work week, restoring defined benefit pensions and a 40% pay rise over the life of the contract.

    What does this have to do with wrestling?

    if a usenet union starts ,
    i'll have all the seniority

    like hoffa

    like john gotti

    the teflon don

    tony the bull

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ja-Son-Wan-Kenobi Has the High Grou@21:1/5 to P-Dub on Tue Oct 31 19:28:16 2023
    On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 1:43:58 PM UTC-4, P-Dub wrote:
    On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 7:28:41 PM UTC-4, Ja-Son-Wan-Kenobi Has the High Ground wrote:
    UAW-Ford deal nets union big wins on wages, benefits, investments
    By Joseph White and David Shepardson
    October 30, 20231:14 AM EDTUpdated 18 hours ago



    DETROIT, Oct 29 (Reuters) - United Auto Workers leaders approved a tentative deal on Sunday with Ford (F.N) that includes a pay hike of at least 30% for full-time workers and could more than double pay for others, in a victory for the union's fight
    to roll back 15 years of concessions.

    Bargaining continued at General Motors (GM.N) without any deal. UAW President Shawn Fain on Saturday ordered a walkout at GM's Spring Hill, Tennessee, engine and assembly plant. Fain and GM CEO Mary Barra were meeting on Sunday night, sources
    familiar with the process said.

    At Ford, the new deal includes $8.1 billion in manufacturing investments and could give workers up to $70,000 in extra pay over the 4-1/2-year life of the contract.

    Cost-saving provisions such as paying workers at component plants less than employees at vehicle assembly lines were swept away under the new contract. The deal also eliminates all lower wage tier plants, an issue Fain highlighted from the start of
    the bargaining process.

    Temporary workers will more than double their pay. Permanent workers could see top wage rates rise by more than 30% to $42.60 per hour by 2028, including estimated cost of living allowances.

    In return, Ford will get the opportunity to offer an unlimited number of $50,000 buyouts to older workers earning the top rate. Ford can now replace them with younger hires who will earn less than the top wage for three years. Earlier, it took new
    workers eight years to reach top wage.

    "It is a turning point in the class war that has been raging in this country for the past 40 years," Fain said on a video post on Sunday.

    He credited the rich contract to the union's strategy of escalating pressure on Ford with a series of targeted strikes over six weeks: "This contract demonstrates the incredible power workers have when they are not afraid to use it."

    The union did back off some of its early demands that included a 32-hour work week, restoring defined benefit pensions and a 40% pay rise over the life of the contract.


    Unions were absolutely necessary in the early and mid 1900s. However, the way they currently operate is destroying the economy.
    You paid zero attention to the latest economic news last week.


    With the UAW, UPS, and the actors - they have us by the balls.
    Oh, let me get my popcorn!

    If we don't bend over backward to appease them - they will shut down stuff we want.

    Hey, P-Dub, I see you have finally learned a little something about the wonderful world of CAPITALISM!


    Union tactics are highly effective. But the companies that have to pay for their demands are hurting, and may shut down.

    SALARY OF FORD CEO JACK FARLEY IN 2022: $21M, up FROM $17.4m IN 2021

    SALARY OF STELLANTIS CEO CARLOS TAVARES IN 2022: $24m
    and I know I covered this last time, but one more time:

    SALARY OF GM CEO MARY BARRA IN 2022: $29m

    Oh, yeah, pretty sure her husbands gotta put in some overtime at the Pathmark. Tell us more about how these companies are hurting P!



    Thus - these highly overpaid workers will end up unemployed.

    "highly overpaid workers" WOW. Just WOW. $24/hr is "overpaid" now. WOW>


    My favorite example is Yellow Freight.

    Please P, I already ate your lunch on this one.
    Management was dismal. They took a $700M PPP Loan during the pandemic (that you still forget to mention) and STILL WENT OUT OF BUSINESS. How is that the union's fault????

    But at the time YRC was also being sued by the Justice Department for allegedly defrauding the government by artificially inflating the weights of its shipments. (The company settled the case in March 2022 for $6.85 million.)

    They were a huge national logistics company. They were probably the biggest. They are now out of business - and that's 100% because of the union. Thousands of drivers were fired. They had to suddenly find jobs. Fortunately, most of them will find jobs.
    But they will not be getting the benefits and pay they thought they were going to get. And many will lose their pensions.

    Look at Nostra-FREAKIN-Damus over here!
    Actually 'dub, the truck drivers will be fine. Truck driving is THE number one profession in many states. They perform an actual marketable skill that not everyone can do.


    Expect the Yellow Freight disaster to come to UAW workers.
    ARCHIVED!!


    There actually is a limit to how much you can make in a car factory. And the actors won't be very happy if, for example, Paramount shuts down.

    LOL! One thing you can always depend on Conservatives for -- To stand up for the Blue Collar Workers of America!!!
    Unless..of course, those fuckers start messing with the 1%. FUCK THAT SHIT!!!

    Jason

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 1 11:12:39 2023
    In article <38ad6010-37cb-4fbc-b92a-de8c570f852fn@googlegroups.com>, davidbrown20782@gmail.com says...

    On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 1:43:58 PM UTC-4, P-Dub wrote:
    On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 7:28:41 PM UTC-4, Ja-Son-Wan-Kenobi Has the High Ground wrote:
    UAW-Ford deal nets union big wins on wages, benefits, investments
    By Joseph White and David Shepardson
    October 30, 20231:14 AM EDTUpdated 18 hours ago



    DETROIT, Oct 29 (Reuters) - United Auto Workers leaders approved a tentative deal on Sunday with Ford (F.N) that includes a pay hike of at least 30% for full-time workers and could more than double pay for others, in a victory for the union's fight
    to roll back 15 years of concessions.

    Bargaining continued at General Motors (GM.N) without any deal. UAW President Shawn Fain on Saturday ordered a walkout at GM's Spring Hill, Tennessee, engine and assembly plant. Fain and GM CEO Mary Barra were meeting on Sunday night, sources
    familiar with the process said.

    At Ford, the new deal includes $8.1 billion in manufacturing investments and could give workers up to $70,000 in extra pay over the 4-1/2-year life of the contract.

    Cost-saving provisions such as paying workers at component plants less than employees at vehicle assembly lines were swept away under the new contract. The deal also eliminates all lower wage tier plants, an issue Fain highlighted from the start of
    the bargaining process.

    Temporary workers will more than double their pay. Permanent workers could see top wage rates rise by more than 30% to $42.60 per hour by 2028, including estimated cost of living allowances.

    In return, Ford will get the opportunity to offer an unlimited number of $50,000 buyouts to older workers earning the top rate. Ford can now replace them with younger hires who will earn less than the top wage for three years. Earlier, it took new
    workers eight years to reach top wage.

    "It is a turning point in the class war that has been raging in this country for the past 40 years," Fain said on a video post on Sunday.

    He credited the rich contract to the union's strategy of escalating pressure on Ford with a series of targeted strikes over six weeks: "This contract demonstrates the incredible power workers have when they are not afraid to use it."

    The union did back off some of its early demands that included a 32-hour work week, restoring defined benefit pensions and a 40% pay rise over the life of the contract.


    Unions were absolutely necessary in the early and mid 1900s. However, the way they currently operate is destroying the economy.
    You paid zero attention to the latest economic news last week.


    With the UAW, UPS, and the actors - they have us by the balls.
    Oh, let me get my popcorn!

    If we don't bend over backward to appease them - they will shut down stuff we want.

    Hey, P-Dub, I see you have finally learned a little something about the wonderful world of CAPITALISM!


    Union tactics are highly effective. But the companies that have to pay for their demands are hurting, and may shut down.

    SALARY OF FORD CEO JACK FARLEY IN 2022: $21M, up FROM $17.4m IN 2021

    SALARY OF STELLANTIS CEO CARLOS TAVARES IN 2022: $24m
    and I know I covered this last time, but one more time:

    SALARY OF GM CEO MARY BARRA IN 2022: $29m

    Oh, yeah, pretty sure her husbands gotta put in some overtime at the Pathmark. Tell us more about how these companies are hurting P!



    Thus - these highly overpaid workers will end up unemployed.

    "highly overpaid workers" WOW. Just WOW. $24/hr is "overpaid" now. WOW>


    My favorite example is Yellow Freight.

    Please P, I already ate your lunch on this one.
    Management was dismal. They took a $700M PPP Loan during the pandemic (that you still forget to mention) and STILL WENT OUT OF BUSINESS. How is that the union's fault????

    But at the time YRC was also being sued by the Justice Department for allegedly defrauding the government by artificially inflating the weights of its shipments. (The company settled the case in March 2022 for $6.85 million.)

    They were a huge national logistics company. They were probably the biggest. They are now out of business - and that's 100% because of the union. Thousands of drivers were fired. They had to suddenly find jobs. Fortunately, most of them will find jobs.
    But they will not be getting the benefits and pay they thought they were going to get. And many will lose their pensions.

    Look at Nostra-FREAKIN-Damus over here!
    Actually 'dub, the truck drivers will be fine. Truck driving is THE number one profession in many states. They perform an actual marketable skill that not everyone can do.


    Expect the Yellow Freight disaster to come to UAW workers.
    ARCHIVED!!


    There actually is a limit to how much you can make in a car factory. And the actors won't be very happy if, for example, Paramount shuts down.

    LOL! One thing you can always depend on Conservatives for -- To stand up for the Blue Collar Workers of America!!!
    Unless..of course, those fuckers start messing with the 1%. FUCK THAT SHIT!!!

    Jason

    Don't you wish you made even half of that.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 1 11:13:30 2023
    In article <fDOdnRutF4bbNdz4nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com>, pursent100 @gmail.com says...

    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <s9Ccndkkd4p55dz4nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com>, pursent100 @gmail.com says...

    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <8CadnbbUUJhUx9z4nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>, pursent100 >>> @gmail.com says...

    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <76a3ae0d-3969-4501-bd29-55ff28fac052n@googlegroups.com>, >>>>> davidbrown20782@gmail.com says...

    UAW-Ford deal nets union big wins on wages, benefits, investments >>>>>> By Joseph White and David Shepardson
    October 30, 20231:14 AM EDTUpdated 18 hours ago



    DETROIT, Oct 29 (Reuters) - United Auto Workers leaders approved a tentative deal on Sunday with Ford (F.N) that includes a pay hike of at least 30% for full-time workers and could more than double pay for others, in a victory for the union's
    fight to roll back 15 years of concessions.

    Bargaining continued at General Motors (GM.N) without any deal. UAW President Shawn Fain on Saturday ordered a walkout at GM's Spring Hill, Tennessee, engine and assembly plant. Fain and GM CEO Mary Barra were meeting on Sunday night, sources
    familiar with the process said.

    At Ford, the new deal includes $8.1 billion in manufacturing investments and could give workers up to $70,000 in extra pay over the 4-1/2-year life of the contract.

    Cost-saving provisions such as paying workers at component plants less than employees at vehicle assembly lines were swept away under the new contract. The deal also eliminates all lower wage tier plants, an issue Fain highlighted from the start
    of the bargaining process.

    Temporary workers will more than double their pay. Permanent workers could see top wage rates rise by more than 30% to $42.60 per hour by 2028, including estimated cost of living allowances.

    In return, Ford will get the opportunity to offer an unlimited number of $50,000 buyouts to older workers earning the top rate. Ford can now replace them with younger hires who will earn less than the top wage for three years. Earlier, it took
    new workers eight years to reach top wage.

    "It is a turning point in the class war that has been raging in this country for the past 40 years," Fain said on a video post on Sunday.

    He credited the rich contract to the union's strategy of escalating pressure on Ford with a series of targeted strikes over six weeks: "This contract demonstrates the incredible power workers have when they are not afraid to use it."

    The union did back off some of its early demands that included a 32-hour work week, restoring defined benefit pensions and a 40% pay rise over the life of the contract.

    What does this have to do with wrestling?

    if a usenet union starts ,
    i'll have all the seniority

    like hoffa

    like john gotti

    the teflon don

    tony the bull

    sicario

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    In article <8CadnbbUUJhUx9z4nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>, pursent100 >>>>> @gmail.com says...

    Skeeter wrote:
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    UAW-Ford deal nets union big wins on wages, benefits, investments >>>>>>>> By Joseph White and David Shepardson
    October 30, 20231:14 AM EDTUpdated 18 hours ago



    DETROIT, Oct 29 (Reuters) - United Auto Workers leaders approved a tentative deal on Sunday with Ford (F.N) that includes a pay hike of at least 30% for full-time workers and could more than double pay for others, in a victory for the union's
    fight to roll back 15 years of concessions.

    Bargaining continued at General Motors (GM.N) without any deal. UAW President Shawn Fain on Saturday ordered a walkout at GM's Spring Hill, Tennessee, engine and assembly plant. Fain and GM CEO Mary Barra were meeting on Sunday night, sources
    familiar with the process said.

    At Ford, the new deal includes $8.1 billion in manufacturing investments and could give workers up to $70,000 in extra pay over the 4-1/2-year life of the contract.

    Cost-saving provisions such as paying workers at component plants less than employees at vehicle assembly lines were swept away under the new contract. The deal also eliminates all lower wage tier plants, an issue Fain highlighted from the start
    of the bargaining process.

    Temporary workers will more than double their pay. Permanent workers could see top wage rates rise by more than 30% to $42.60 per hour by 2028, including estimated cost of living allowances.

    In return, Ford will get the opportunity to offer an unlimited number of $50,000 buyouts to older workers earning the top rate. Ford can now replace them with younger hires who will earn less than the top wage for three years. Earlier, it took
    new workers eight years to reach top wage.

    "It is a turning point in the class war that has been raging in this country for the past 40 years," Fain said on a video post on Sunday.

    He credited the rich contract to the union's strategy of escalating pressure on Ford with a series of targeted strikes over six weeks: "This contract demonstrates the incredible power workers have when they are not afraid to use it."

    The union did back off some of its early demands that included a 32-hour work week, restoring defined benefit pensions and a 40% pay rise over the life of the contract.

    What does this have to do with wrestling?

    if a usenet union starts ,
    i'll have all the seniority

    like hoffa

    like john gotti

    the teflon don

    tony the bull

    sicario

    jimmy

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