• JH will be live in 30 minutes.

    From rec.sport.pro-wrestling@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 18 17:00:05 2023
    There have been unfortunate new developments.

    https://www.facebook.com/events/974690483820390/?ref=rspw

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  • From Taro Tsujimoto@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 18 20:22:39 2023
    On Sep 18, 2023, rec.sport.pro-wrestling wrote
    (in article<473f8333-04a6-444d-a73e-26ea9d829fb9n@googlegroups.com>):

    There have been unfortunate new developments.

    https://www.facebook.com/events/974690483820390/?ref=rspw

    Are you planning to swallow arsenic at heroic doses live on camera, John
    Henry DeJong?

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  • From Grudge Rounds@21:1/5 to Taro Tsujimoto on Tue Sep 19 04:14:51 2023
    Taro Tsujimoto wrote:

    On Sep 18, 2023, rec.sport.pro-wrestling wrote
    (in article<473f8333-04a6-444d-a73e-26ea9d829fb9n@googlegroups.com>):

    There have been unfortunate new developments.

    https://www.facebook.com/events/974690483820390/?ref=rspw
    <snip baseless accusation and unnecessary abuse>

    Transcript:

    Alright, kids. How are you? I don't know what you're looking at. I
    don't know what we're looking at. But here I am. Uh, we are trying to
    make this live stream happen and I hope let me do something obvious so
    I can see what my lag is like here. Make sure I'm going to watch my
    stream. Okay. Looks like I'm good. Uh, so here I am. Uh, need to chat
    with you all about some ongoing situations. Let me wind things back up
    to sort of the beginning back in late February, the March of this year.
    Uh, I had been living in this horrible bedbug filled dope-filled mess
    of a trap house and things had got to the point where I just couldn't
    work. The landlord was uncooperative. I had roommates that were
    seriously problematic and damaging property and everything else. So, I
    was on the streets for a minute, actually in a hotel. Thanks to the
    generous assistance of friends. While I was staying at the hotel, I was actually on my last day and in the lobby trying to figure out how I was
    going to pay for one more night and I ran into a friend of mine that I
    had known back in high school. Haven't seen her for about 35 years. We
    got to talking. As it turned out, she is dealing with stage 4 terminal
    cancer in her lungs and her brain. She needed somebody to stay with
    her. She had a spare room and she needed somebody here to help out and basically just to be here in case she had some kind of medical problem
    and couldn't reach the phone, right? So, I've been here and I've been
    able to take advantage of a lot of time. I absolutely do not want to
    get into like running my roommate down. It's not what this is about.
    But the situation as it stands right now is she's been on disability
    and on disability, you have a grace period. I think it's nine months
    where you're still allowed to earn money and they don't penalize you or threaten to take you off the disability. Unfortunately, that grace
    period is about to end. With that grace period ending, she's still
    reasonably healthy and has been working and so on and so forth but
    that's going to have to end because if she continues working then her disability gets cut off and that's her health care and her medical
    insurance. Her employer's insurance doesn't cover chemotherapy,
    etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. So it's this big, snarled, tangled mess
    of who knows how you're going to deal with this, right? So she came to
    me today and you know, the deadline of December 1st has been impending
    for a time for 9 months. We knew this was coming. Excuse me. But what
    we didn't know was what was going to have to be done to deal with it.
    Now the problem is if I'm living here all of my income also counts
    against her disability. I can't get any of that stuff. I don't qualify
    for any of that stuff. What little I could maybe qualify for has years
    long waiting lists including housing and everything else because I have
    my own problems, right? It's been working out alright but
    unfortunately, it is not going to continue working alright.

    I have to leave. I have to be out of here December first because I
    can't be here. If I am here, that jeopardizes her access to medical
    care and her disability. Again, I don't want to get into the business
    of running my roommate down but my first response to that of course
    was, let's raise some money and get you a bank built up so we can make
    sure your property taxes are covered and everything else. We'll do a
    third party. That way, you're not handling the money and then it can be
    treated as a gift. It doesn't come against your disability and all that
    other stuff. I actually went so far. I started setting up a GoFundMe.
    Um and then I went and said, well, I made a picture to do this
    fundraiser and then it was, well, I didn't ask you for that. I didn't
    need the help. I don't want the help. That's not, I don't want any of
    that.

    Okay. Well, that means that there's nothing I can do and now I have to
    worry about helping myself. Um I there's there's literally my hands are
    tied. I don't want to approach the situation like this. Uh I don't I
    this is not what I want to be doing. Uh on any level. Uh I don't want
    to move out. I don't want to leave her here by herself to to deal with
    all this stuff. Um but it clearly the situation is I've got to go. Um
    and so that's that's where we're at right now. Uh and I'm a little
    freaked out and I'm very very scared and very very worried. Um I've
    been slowly you know trying to build this page up and and trying to to
    to reach out to to everybody. Uh and let you know. Like we've gotta
    we've gotta step on this and and some people have and I I seriously
    appreciate that. Um but it's also you know it's it's 20 bucks. It's you
    know, 50 bucks if I'm lucky. Um and and my monthly income is still, you
    know, on the order of three, $400 Um right now, I'm on Facebook's bonus program. Uh they added me to that a couple of months ago And I had that
    post go viral here about a week and a half ago. Uh before it was
    shamelessly stolen by the other ninety-eight percent. Um I ended up
    with about 850, 000 views on that. Like 130000 likes. Added a couple of
    hundred people to to my followers on on this page. Uh and the the money translation from that worked out to about well, I was at about 12 bucks
    when it started. So, it's been like sixty-two, $63 that came on to that
    and that's awesome. I mean, I'm not trying to not appreciate that and
    I'm not trying to not appreciate the people who have helped out, you
    know, some folks have been helping for years, right? There's there's,
    you know, I've got patrons who have been signed up for a couple of
    years at five bucks a piece. I've got a two patrons over there that are
    50 bucks a month and they've been on there one one friend of mine has
    been off and on for a couple of years. Uh another friend who's also,
    you know, a reader on this page has been there at fifty bucks since the beginning of this year and all of that helps and I appreciate. I would
    not be able to maintain even my Adobe subscription. Uh if if not for
    that but it's also not survivable. Um and now, I am in a really really difficult position. Uh in that, I don't know how I'm going to live. I
    don't know how I'm going to survive. I don't know where I'm going to
    go. I don't know how I'm going to get there. Uh the the externally
    sourced drama that originally resulted in me, you know, being having to
    move into that boarding house in the first place. Uh that was, you
    know, my my loving family and thanks to that. I have an eviction on my
    record. So, I can't just jump out and go, oh, hey, here's, you know,
    couple hundred bucks. Uh, security deposit a month's rent, you're going
    to let me move in, right? Um, because I've got an eviction on my
    record. Um, and, and we all know that the housing situation out there
    is absolutely horrible. Anyway, landlords are charging, you know, two,
    three months worth of rent all kinds of ridiculous security deposits
    and fees and everything else. It's it's not easy for anybody out there
    right now to do to find a place to be, okay? Why I've done this video
    and and why I'm I'm doing this video all of the top of my head is to
    try to reach out and let you all know that the time is now. Um the this
    this entire situation has to change. I have to get stabilized.

    I have to grow my audience to the point of being able to sustain. I've
    been out here for, you know, the 15 years doing this stuff, and I've
    been just absolutely crushed by, you know, these giant grifting pages
    that are working against me. I got stalkers going on, and people going
    back channel and all kinds of rumor mongering. Just every single thing
    in the world that could be, you know, working against me has been for a
    long time. And I continue waking up every day and leaning in and
    saying, 'Hey, I'm going to come out here and I am going to keep doing
    the best I can to make the world a better place, and to make life
    easier for all of us.' And try to teach people how to make life easier
    for themselves and make better decisions about their leadership and all
    of that stuff because I'm not out here trying to cover my own ass. I'm
    trying to get everybody's ass covered. I'm trying to bring everybody
    up. And like I said, this has been going on for a decade plus now.
    That, you know, these big pages that you know the other ninety-eight
    and the being liberal and blah blah blah. All these big astroturf fake grassroots grifters who have no ideological commitment. Whatever, the
    only thing they're interested in is pandering the people's biases and
    making money. They're making money hand over fist, right? Millions and
    millions of dollars a year and here I still sit. Here I still sit. And
    so, I don't, again, it's, I don't want to be, you know, self-pity, and
    I don't want you to pity me, and I don't want you to feel sorry for me.
    I want you to understand that the work I'm doing is worthwhile and it
    is adding positive effects to the world and doing good and nudging the battleship of humanity a quarter degree at a time in a more sane
    direction with all of your help. And I have enjoyed the privilege of
    having an audience and having a platform. In spite of, you know, losing
    the Obama page last year, which is 200,000 people that Facebook cut off
    because one of the admins was sloppy about what they were posting. And
    just on and on.

    I have been beating my hand against the wall for a decade and a half.
    Hanging on by my fingernails as they pull out of my fingers
    desperately, desperately trying to stay alive and get ahead. And the
    only thing I've been able to do is just barely stay alive. And I love
    you all, but that has to change, and it has to change like today. And
    so what I'm asking her to do, I'm not going to be here all night. I'm
    going to try to get this. It's probably not going to be under fifteen,
    but I'm going to try to get it under 20 minutes. What I'm asking to do
    is please, please, please, please, everything I post, engage, like,
    share, comment, spread it around. Tell people, I post regular
    fundraising links to the PayPal and to the Linktree, into the Patreon,
    and my website where I've got the shopping cart set up. And I've been
    doing some other new stuff over there so people can make contributions
    that are directly targeted towards like paying for Adobe software and
    so on and so forth.

    I desperately, desperately need all of the help I can get. And I want
    to be absolutely clear. There's a lot of BS that goes on out there
    about me. A lot of people talk crap behind my back and whatever. And I
    don't pay attention to it much unless it gets right in my face and I
    have to. There's no ulterior motive here. I'm not strung out on drugs.
    I'm not out blowing money on gambling or throwing it away. None of that
    stuff. Right? There is no secret here. I am here to help me. I mean,
    it's legitimate and authentic and grassroots and independent as anybody possibly can be. I don't take money from the Democratic Party, the way
    that some of these big pages do. I don't take money from corporate
    sponsors the way that some of these big pages do. I don't want other
    people's advertisements on my Facebook page, etc., etc., etc.

    I have gone out of my way and done incredible damage in my own life
    and to my own space, into my own survivability, and my health, and my
    mental health. For years and years and years to try to get ahead and
    get out into the world and say, hey, look, here is what we need to do.
    Here is the information. We need to be more politically literate. We
    need to stop being enslaved by our egos and insisting on rejecting any information that suggests to us that maybe we've been calm or been
    fooled or been led astray by bad ideas or getting sucked into things
    that appeal to our biases and egos rather than the truth, etcetera.

    I'm out here working, doing the very best that I can, right? I've been
    doing it forever. My name and my face are all over the internet for 15,
    20 years. Being this hard left, anti-capitalist, political activist,
    even if I wasn't over 50 years old, I would not be employable at this
    point. People are not going to hire somebody when they are legally
    allowed in this country, which they aren't in some countries, to go
    digging through Google and digging through my Facebook history and
    everything else and deciding, oh, this guy is, he's a lefty. He's an anti-fascist. He's an anti-capitalist. He's going to come in and be
    disruptive and he's going to be a problem for us so we're not going to
    hire him. Now, on the face of it, of course, that's illegal as hell.
    You're not allowed to do that. It is a refuse to hire somebody over
    their political beliefs but long as they're not stupid enough to tell
    me to my face, that's why I'm not being hired. There's nothing I can do
    about it. And now I'm old.

    I just don't know what to do anymore. I'm at my absolute wit's end. I
    just don't know what to do anymore. What I do know is that giving up is
    not an option. Not doing the work that I do here on this page and on
    the website and all the political stuff and all the media and
    information literacy stuff and trying to expose these frauds and
    grifters that are in various spaces, including it's not just the
    political space. I've been looking at all these Native American pages
    that are on Facebook and stuff over the last couple of days and it's
    like nine out of ten of them, all the administrators are based in like
    Vietnam or the Philippines. These are Native Americans. These are
    thieves, you know, and they're thieves. They use the imagery and the
    ideas and the symbolism of Native American culture to appeal to people
    who are attracted to that and suck money out of their pockets and sell
    cheap T-shirts and so on and so forth. And it's a problem in every
    sector on social media. There are so many scams out there and there are
    so many people that are just I don't know what happened to human
    conscience. I don't know how these people do this. I don't know how
    anybody can go out and just flat out lie to millions of people and
    steal money and energy and time and work from real activists who are
    trying to make the world better and put it in their pocket to the tune
    of millions of dollars a year and live with themselves. I don't know
    how people do that. And I'm not in that business. I've never been in
    that business, right?

    It would be so easy for me and would have been at any point in the last
    7 months, right? I could easily come out and say, hey, you know,
    cancer roommate, medical cause, need money, and I could spam that all
    over social media and the money would come rolling in but it would be dishonest. It would be fraud. It would be crooked. It would be
    everything that I stand against.

    I'm asking y'all and and hilariously, I'm looking right. There's like
    one person watching this stream right now.

    I got 5,000 people following my page, and there's one person watching
    the stream right now. And I just, you know, we gotta get over this idea
    that somebody honestly asking for support is they must be the fraud.
    But it's the person that's out there who's pretending to be Native
    American, who's pretending to be black, who's pretending to be gay,
    who's pretending to be a woman, who's pretending, pretending,
    pretending, lying through their teeth, and making stuff up. But it
    sounds good and it looks good on us socially when we appear to be
    supporting that. We gotta break that. We have to break that thinking.
    It's killing us. It is wiping us out. That is what's doing the damage
    to our democracy. This is why we don't have a real left-wing in this
    country. This is why so many of us are struggling. This is why the
    AMPTP and the automakers think that they can get away with continuing
    to hurt people and threaten people and punish people for demanding
    better working conditions and all the other stuff that's going on right
    now with these strikes. Because we put all of our energy behind these
    frauds and these grifters. And in the meantime, people like me are out
    here trying to do it authentically because everybody wants authenticity
    except they want a highly polished and well-rehearsed and, you know,
    they want authentic bullshit. And that's going to stop. That's gotta
    stop. That is what's hurting us. And, you know, again, this, you know,
    my personal problems and the things that I'm going through are
    definitely a major problem. And if something does not happen in a huge
    way in the next month or so, I really just don't know what I'm going to
    do or where I'm going to be. But right now, as things stand, if
    something doesn't happen very soon, I'm going to be on the streets on
    December 1st, and you're not going to hear from me anymore. And I would
    rather not see that happen for my own selfish reasons, obviously, but
    also because I've still got a lot of work to do and a lot of things to
    say and a lot of information and energy to put out there into the
    world. And that includes, you know, supporting.

    I've recently become. There's a really great page out there called Vox
    Plus Guest that is run by the members of a band called Vox Plus Sticks.
    Um, and they are just incredible energy for mutual aid and sharing and everything else. So, the last week or so, I've had a lot of like
    independent musicians and so on and so forth which I love because I've
    been one for 45 years and I want to do everything I can to support
    them. I'm doing everything. Everything I know how to do. I am one
    person. And I am doing the work of 10 people every single day. And I
    want to be clear. I know I'm not sane. Okay? I know I'm not normal. I
    know I can sometimes come off abrasive or what have you. I get that. I understand that. That's the world we live in. And that's what needs to
    change. That's the evolution that needs to happen is we need to start
    breaking this thinking. We need to start breaking our training and this commercialism and all the things that we've been, you know, taught
    through advertising and marketing tricks in terms of only believing
    people that are already rich and then they need more money. Like, that
    doesn't make any sense, right? So, I'm already again 2 minutes past
    where I wanted to be. I'm going to go ahead and cut it off here pretty
    quick but I want to just leave you with a thought. Please, man. Please,
    please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please,
    engage with my work on my page, share, spread it around. Don't be
    afraid to say to people, hey, this guy deserves your support. This guy
    deserves your help. He deserves your attention, right? If I can blow up
    on Facebook and stay blown up, the income from that will cover me,
    right? I can make up to $30,000 a month from Facebook. Right now, you
    know, like I said, I got seventy bucks. Need to need to move that up
    and I got a couple of folks that have been following me. Uh especially
    Tony Nelson. I definitely wanted to give a shout out too because he's
    been a friend of mine for a long long time back to the wrestling group
    in the nineties. Um and he's just been sharing everything. And and
    liking everything and leaving comments on tons of stuff. And that is
    the energy I need from like all 5000 of you. I really really need that.
    I need you to make that extra little effort for me. A couple of times a
    day. Spend 5 minutes. Dropped by the page. Like the stuff that I've
    posted. Share the video is share the articles, all that other stuff.
    Get it out there. Bring people in and let's build this up because I I
    need, you know, I I don't want to use the word miracle because I'm an
    atheist. I don't believe in miracles. But what I need is a break for
    one goddamn time in my life. I just need a real break. I've been out
    here doing the work and I've been doing it. You know, it's not that I
    don't have a self-interest, right? I don't want to sit here. Oh, I
    sacrifice myself for you. It's not all nobility if we improve the
    world. My life gets better if we live in a world where we have robust
    social welfare programs and we've adjusted our thinking to get away
    from some of this in-grouping and the capital just the aspiration and
    all that other stuff that improves my life absolutely that makes things
    better and helps end the situations that create where I am right now
    and so I'm just please man I'm just asking you you have to send money.
    I obviously, if you've got something you can, by all means, please do.
    There's links on the little lower third graphic there. It's got my
    Patreon link in it. I think my PayPal that's circulating here and I'll
    go ahead. I think the comments on the live stream have links. Uh let me
    let me pop over in my little control console here and I can get the
    graphic on screen for the contribution links as well. Um let me go
    ahead and get my picture and picture up there on the top as well so you
    can see that, okay? And then we'll and letting not restart the
    introduction to this show. Uh there we go. Those are the big three
    right there. The PayPal address. Uh the support page at my website and
    then that cash tag which works for Cash App and Cash.me and Chime.

    Um, anything you can do, whether it's a dollar or $5 or 50 or 500 or
    5,000, anything up to the legal limit of nine thousand nine 999 dollars
    and ninety-nine cents, I need it. I need it because even when I get
    this housing situation and stabilization problem solved, I'm still
    working on a ten-year-old computer. I'm still using this horrible,
    cheap, 1080P webcam that I've had for 10 years. I don't have the right microphone. If I touch this thing the wrong way, the microphone
    connection goes out because it's worn and it's cheap and it needs to be replaced. I need your help. Please. If nothing else, if nothing else,
    please get active on the engagement. Like, share, comment, subscribe,
    tell other people. I am not asking you to go out there and tell all
    your friends and pester them like some sort of, you know, candy sale at
    school that your kid is doing, but it sure wouldn't hurt if 20 people
    out of the 5000 folks that are following this page, you know, if 20 or
    30 people every week just shared something with a little note that
    says, 'Hey, this guy's pretty good at what he does. You should pay
    attention to him. Maybe support him if you can.' You'd be amazed,
    right? That message that went viral last week, that thing sat for, you
    know, almost a week before anybody noticed it and then somewhere along
    the line, somebody picked it up and shared it in the right place and it
    went nuts, and then all of a sudden it starts to build on itself. Then,
    I see people like Lala Larkas and David Gerald and people with big,
    huge platforms are also sharing, and that again, it just reinforces and reinforces itself and it becomes sort of a positive feedback mechanism.
    If I can get to the point where I'm reaching, you know, 5,000 people a
    day on a regular basis even, then, all of a sudden we have some hope.
    But right now it's kind of, man, I just don't know. I just don't know
    what's going to happen. And you know, we're not even talking about, you
    know, mental illness issues and majority, all that other stuff that I
    deal with anyway. It's not, that's not part of the conversation right
    now. This is just a human being who's out here trying to do the right
    thing as best they can. It has been for a long time and unfortunately,
    what I do works against the business model of nearly everybody else
    that is doing this kind of thing including occupied Democrats,
    including the other ninety-eight. Any big page that you can think of,
    you know, the Jojo from Jersey and the Brooklyn dad and the really
    American. All of these pages are backed by major political party money
    and they're crushing me and they're crushing people like me. And the
    only way that's going to stop is if we, the people, you and I, we, the
    people engage and work together and push so that people like me have
    the floor and people like them, the grifters, the fakes, the frauds,
    the astroturfers, lose their floor. They don't deserve to have that
    platform. So, and I think that's where I'm going to cut it off. So,
    thank you very much. I appreciate everybody watching. If you can help,
    please do. You can send stars through Facebook if you want to. All that
    stuff that's on my website and then the PayPal, the Patreon, I just set
    up a CoFi coffee, however you pronounce it, account, and all of those
    links are actually in the about section of this Facebook page, and you
    can check all that stuff out. And in the meantime, thanks a whole lot.
    I love you. Much power to all the people. I will continue, as I have
    most of my life, to be in every possible way, a champion of the
    oppressed and the underdogs until I cannot raise my head anymore. That
    is what I do and that is what I'm going to do until I die. I would just
    rather that didn't happen soon. So, if you can do what you can, please
    do. And that's it for me. Thank you very much. Have a great night, and
    I'll see you soon. Keep an eye on the page. By the way, oh hey, I
    almost forgot too. I started a group that's attached to the Facebook
    page now. So, make sure you're joining that and taking part in that so
    that I can that is I'm going to try to move like alittle short kind of
    almost personal status messages and things like that.

    I'm going to try to move all that stuff over there so that the content
    on this page is focused on 'quote unquote' real content. Um, Facebook
    doesn't necessarily penalize you for posting a lot, but it's just a
    math thing, right? If I'm putting up 100 or 120 messages a day, then a
    smaller percentage of those messages are going to show up on people's
    timelines because if they didn't, you would have nothing but John
    Andrea on your timeline, and Facebook doesn't want that unless I pay
    them, which I can't afford to do. Um, so get in the group. Um, get that
    taken care of. It's linked. There's actually, I think I pinned the post
    on the page. Uh, so if you look at the John Henry US page here on
    Facebook, right at the top of the feed there, you should see a post
    that has a link to the new group. Just go there, hit the join button.
    I'll get you, I'll get you, you know, authorized in and there as
    quickly as I can. Um, and just, you know, pay attention. Do what you
    can. I know it's not the rousing Norman race speech everybody came for,
    but this is the reality that we're in, and I'm not, I'm not a song and
    dance. I'm not going to put on some bullshit act. Uh, pretend to be
    something I'm not. Hey, everybody. Here's a big smile for you. Let's
    all be popular and let's talk about keywords and let's appeal to your
    biases so that you think I'm special and cool, and then you really like
    being, hey, did I mention that I'm, you know, native and black and blah
    blah blah. No, I'm just not going to do that. Going to do that. The
    work that I do is worthy of your support. There is, I don't have any
    question about that. It's just a matter of getting through this induced
    sort of, you know, I call it the crass ceiling where where we as, you
    know, American consumers have been trained for years to assume that
    anybody who's poor is poor because they are, you know, some kind of
    loser and jerk and they deserve it. Uh, and anybody who's rich deserves
    to have more money. Let's break that thinking and let's start here,
    okay? Please, thank you. Have a good night.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Davey Zimmerman #274@21:1/5 to Grudge Rounds on Tue Sep 19 11:13:51 2023
    Grudge Rounds <richmennorthofmidvale@times.up> wrote in news:ueb77q$2fpor$1@novabbs.org:

    https://www.facebook.com/events/974690483820390/?ref=rspw


    Let's take sections of this at a tuime since John does extended rants
    when he's begging.

    "Uh, need to chat with you all about some ongoing situations. Let me
    wind things back up to sort of the beginning back in late february, the
    march of this year. Uh, i had been living in this horrible bedbug filled dope-filled mess of a trap house and things had got to the point where i
    just couldn't work. The landlord was uncooperative. I had roommates that
    were seriously problematic and damaging property and everything else."

    John leaves out how he owed at least 4 months of back rent and was on
    the verge of a formal eviction. How "cooperative" you could you expect
    someone to be with a deadbeat tenant is another story. Funny that the
    alleged junkies were paying rent and John wasn't.

    So, i was on the streets for a minute, actually in a hotel. Thanks to
    the generous assistance of friends. While i was staying at the hotel, i
    was actually on my last day and in the lobby trying to figure out how i
    was going to pay for one more night and i ran into a friend of mine that
    i had known back in high school. Haven't seen her for about 35 years. We
    got to talking. As it turned out, she is dealing with stage 4 terminal
    cancer in her lungs and her brain. She needed somebody to stay with
    her. She had a spare room and she needed somebody here to help out and basically just to be here in case she had some kind of medical problem
    and couldn't reach the phone, right? So, i've been here and i've been
    able to take advantage of a lot of time."

    I can see that you've taken advantage of the time...amd Mona's
    hospitality. How much did you put towards utilities, food, and helping
    out?

    Your whole meeting story sounds like it left a lot of begging out.

    "I absolutely do not want to get into like running my roommate down."

    You done exactly that to anyone who showed you any assistance and then
    turned off the ATM, John. That includes landlords, "followers" and
    anyone else that cut you a break.


    "It's not what this is about. but the situation as it stands right now
    is she's been on disability and on disability, you have a grace period.
    I think it's nine months where you're still allowed to earn money and
    they don't penalize you or threaten to take you off the disability. Unfortunately, that grace period is about to end. With that grace period ending, she's still reasonably healthy and has been working and so on
    and so forth but that's going to have to end because if she continues
    working then her disability gets cut off and that's her health care and
    her medical insurance. Her employer's insurance doesn't cover
    chemotherapy, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. So it's this big, snarled,
    tangled mess of who knows how you're going to deal with this, right? So
    she came to me today and you know, the deadline of december 1st has been impending for a time for 9 months. "

    So none of this is a hint you need to get a job? Shocking.


    "We knew this was coming. Excuse me. But what we didn't know was what
    was going to have to be done to deal with it. now the problem is if i'm
    living here all of my income also counts against her disability. I can't
    get any of that stuff. I don't qualify for any of that stuff. What
    little i could maybe qualify for has years long waiting lists including
    housing and everything else because i have my own problems, right? It's
    been working out alright but unfortunately, it is not going to continue
    working alright."

    Typical John, it's the fault of someone else that it has to end.

    "I have to leave. I have to be out of here december first because i
    can't be here. If i am here, that jeopardizes her access to medical
    care and her disability. Again, i don't want to get into the business
    of running my roommate down but my first response to that of course
    was, let's raise some money and get you a bank built up so we can make
    sure your property taxes are covered and everything else. We'll do a
    third party. That way, you're not handling the money and then it can be
    treated as a gift. It doesn't come against your disability and all that
    other stuff. I actually went so far. I started setting up a gofundme.
    um and then i went and said, well, i made a picture to do this
    fundraiser and then it was, well, i didn't ask you for that. I didn't
    need the help. I don't want the help. That's not, i don't want any of
    that."

    Translation: Just get the fuck out of my life. I'm sure she got tired of hearing John rant about Cain, Chad, Omar and Desmond in the middle of
    the night when she has to get up early to work.

    "okay. Well, that means that there's nothing i can do and now i have to
    worry about helping myself. Um i there's there's literally my hands are
    tied. I don't want to approach the situation like this. Uh i don't i
    this is not what i want to be doing. Uh on any level. Uh i don't want
    to move out. I don't want to leave her here by herself to to deal with
    all this stuff. Um but it clearly the situation is i've got to go"

    Nothing you can do? You've barely tried the whole time you've been a
    parasite there.

    "Um and so that's that's where we're at right now. Uh and i'm a little
    freaked out and i'm very very scared and very very worried."

    Not worried enough to be a job!

    "Um i've been slowly you know trying to build this page up and and
    trying to to to reach out to to everybody. Uh and let you know. Like
    we've gotta we've gotta step on this and and some people have and i i
    seriously appreciate that. Um but it's also you know it's it's 20 bucks.
    It's you know, 50 bucks if i'm lucky. Um and and my monthly income is
    still, you know, on the order of three, $400 um right now, i'm on
    facebook's bonus program. Uh they added me to that a couple of months
    ago and i had that post go viral here about a week and a half ago. Uh
    before it was shamelessly stolen by the other ninety-eight percent. Um i
    ended up with about 850, 000 views on that. Like 130000 likes. Added a
    couple of hundred people to to my followers on on this page. Uh and the
    the money translation from that worked out to about well, i was at about
    12 bucks when it started. So, it's been like sixty-two, $63 that came on
    to that and that's awesome. I mean, i'm not trying to not appreciate
    that and i'm not trying to not appreciate the people who have helped
    out, you know, some folks have been helping for years, right? There's
    there's, you know, i've got patrons who have been signed up for a couple
    of years at five bucks a piece. I've got a two patrons over there that
    are 50 bucks a month and they've been on there one one friend of mine
    has been off and on for a couple of years. Uh another friend who's also,
    you know, a reader on this page has been there at fifty bucks since the beginning of this year and all of that helps and i appreciate. I would
    not be able to maintain even my adobe subscription. Uh if if not for
    that but it's also not survivable. Um and now, i am in a really really difficult position. Uh in that, i don't know how i'm going to live. I
    don't know how i'm going to survive. I don't know where i'm going to
    go. I don't know how i'm going to get there. Uh the the externally
    sourced drama that originally resulted in me, you know, being having to
    move into that boarding house in the first place. Uh that was, you
    know, my my loving family and thanks to that. I have an eviction on my
    record."

    Your family was tired of watching you do nothing all day and while you
    expected the mooching to continue. How many chances did they give you?

    Are you claiming your family filed an eviction? That's funny!

    "So, i can't just jump out and go, oh, hey, here's, you know,
    couple hundred bucks. Uh, security deposit a month's rent, you're going
    to let me move in, right? Um, because i've got an eviction on my
    record. Um, and, and we all know that the housing situation out there
    is absolutely horrible. Anyway, landlords are charging, you know, two,
    three months worth of rent all kinds of ridiculous security deposits
    and fees and everything else. It's it's not easy for anybody out there
    right now to do to find a place to be, okay? Why i've done this video
    and and why i'm i'm doing this video all of the top of my head is to
    try to reach out and let you all know that the time is now. Um the this
    this entire situation has to change. I have to get stabilized."

    You mooch everywhere you go and expect a free ride.

    "i have to grow my audience to the point of being able to sustain. I've
    been out here for, you know, the 15 years doing this stuff, and i've
    been just absolutely crushed by, you know, these giant grifting pages
    that are working against me. I got stalkers going on, and people going
    back channel and all kinds of rumor mongering. Just every single thing
    in the world that could be, you know, working against me has been for a
    long time."

    Not paranoid at all, John! 15 years of grifing off people like Beth
    Aultman? That's KARMA, motherfucker.

    "And i continue waking up every day and leaning in and saying, 'hey, i'm
    going to come out here and i am going to keep doing the best i can to
    make the world a better place, and to make life easier for all of us. '
    and try to teach people how to make life easier for themselves and make
    better decisions about their leadership and all of that stuff because
    i'm not out here trying to cover my own ass."

    Liar. I don't see you out there volunteering for anything. You just run
    your mouth.


    "I'm trying to get everybody's ass covered. I'm trying to bring
    everybody up. And like i said, this has been going on for a decade plus
    now. that, you know, these big pages that you know the other
    ninety-eight and the being liberal and blah blah blah. All these big
    astroturf fake grassroots grifters who have no ideological commitment. Whatever, the only thing they're interested in is pandering the people's
    biases and making money. They're making money hand over fist, right?
    Millions and millions of dollars a year and here i still sit. Here i
    still sit. And so, i don't, again, it's, i don't want to be, you know, self-pity, and i don't want you to pity me, and i don't want you to feel
    sorry for me. i want you to understand that the work i'm doing is
    worthwhile and it is adding positive effects to the world and doing good
    and nudging the battleship of humanity a quarter degree at a time in a
    more sane direction with all of your help. And i have enjoyed the
    privilege of having an audience and having a platform. In spite of, you
    know, losing the obama page last year, which is 200,000 people that
    facebook cut off because one of the admins was sloppy about what they
    were posting. And just on and on. "

    Much like nobody wants a parasite for like, nobody asked you to cover
    anyone's ass.

    "i have been beating my hand against the wall for a decade and a half.
    hanging on by my fingernails as they pull out of my fingers
    desperately, desperately trying to stay alive and get ahead. And the
    only thing i've been able to do is just barely stay alive. And i love
    you all, but that has to change, and it has to change like today. And
    so what i'm asking her to do, i'm not going to be here all night. I'm
    going to try to get this. It's probably not going to be under fifteen,
    but i'm going to try to get it under 20 minutes. What i'm asking to do
    is please, please, please, please, everything i post, engage, like,
    share, comment, spread it around. Tell people, i post regular
    fundraising links to the paypal and to the linktree, into the patreon,
    and my website where i've got the shopping cart set up. And i've been
    doing some other new stuff over there so people can make contributions
    that are directly targeted towards like paying for adobe software and
    so on and so forth."

    15 years of failure and you haven't gotten the message. Check a mirror
    and see who you can blame for that.

    "I desperately, desperately need all of the help i can get. And i want
    to be absolutely clear. There's a lot of bs that goes on out there
    about me. A lot of people talk crap behind my back and whatever. And i
    don't pay attention to it much unless it gets right in my face and i
    have to. There's no ulterior motive here. I'm not strung out on drugs.
    i'm not out blowing money on gambling or throwing it away. None of that
    stuff. Right? There is no secret here. I am here to help me. I mean,
    it's legitimate and authentic and grassroots and independent as anybody possibly can be. I don't take money from the democratic party, the way
    that some of these big pages do. I don't take money from corporate
    sponsors the way that some of these big pages do. I don't want other
    people's advertisements on my facebook page, etc. , etc. , etc.

    i have gone out of my way and done incredible damage in my own life
    and to my own space, into my own survivability, and my health, and my
    mental health. For years and years and years to try to get ahead and
    get out into the world and say, hey, look, here is what we need to do.
    here is the information. We need to be more politically literate. We
    need to stop being enslaved by our egos and insisting on rejecting any information that suggests to us that maybe we've been calm or been
    fooled or been led astray by bad ideas or getting sucked into things
    that appeal to our biases and egos rather than the truth, etcetera."

    John is now a victim of himself. Great argument, idiot.


    "i'm out here working, doing the very best that i can, right? I've been
    doing it forever. My name and my face are all over the internet for 15,
    20 years. Being this hard left, anti-capitalist, political activist,
    even if i wasn't over 50 years old, i would not be employable at this
    point."

    You could start your own business. Pirated rasslin' DVDs perhaps? Damn,
    you tried that. Malware-infested browser helpers? Damn, tried that too.

    Looks like you're out of options. So drink the bleach.

    "People are not going to hire somebody when they are legally
    allowed in this country, which they aren't in some countries, to go
    digging through google and digging through my facebook history and
    everything else and deciding, oh, this guy is, he's a lefty. He's an anti-fascist. He's an anti-capitalist. He's going to come in and be
    disruptive and he's going to be a problem for us so we're not going to
    hire him. Now, on the face of it, of course, that's illegal as hell.
    you're not allowed to do that. It is a refuse to hire somebody over
    their political beliefs but long as they're not stupid enough to tell
    me to my face, that's why i'm not being hired. There's nothing i can do
    about it. And now i'm old."

    Aesop had a fable about grasshoppers like you.

    "i just don't know what to do anymore. I'm at my absolute wit's end. I
    just don't know what to do anymore. What i do know is that giving up is
    not an option. Not doing the work that i do here on this page and on
    the website and all the political stuff and all the media and
    information literacy stuff and trying to expose these frauds and
    grifters that are in various spaces, including it's not just the
    political space. I've been looking at all these native american pages
    that are on facebook and stuff over the last couple of days and it's
    like nine out of ten of them, all the administrators are based in like
    vietnam or the philippines. These are native americans. These are
    thieves, you know, and they're thieves. They use the imagery and the
    ideas and the symbolism of native american culture to appeal to people
    who are attracted to that and suck money out of their pockets and sell
    cheap t-shirts and so on and so forth. And it's a problem in every
    sector on social media. There are so many scams out there and there are
    so many people that are just i don't know what happened to human
    conscience. I don't know how these people do this. I don't know how
    anybody can go out and just flat out lie to millions of people and
    steal money and energy and time and work from real activists who are
    trying to make the world better and put it in their pocket to the tune
    of millions of dollars a year and live with themselves. I don't know
    how people do that. And i'm not in that business. I've never been in
    that business, right?"

    You do it daily. You lie to yourself and say this ego trip is
    sustainable. It's not.

    "it would be so easy for me and would have been at any point in the last
    7 months, right? I could easily come out and say, hey, you know,
    cancer roommate, medical cause, need money, and i could spam that all
    over social media and the money would come rolling in but it would be dishonest. It would be fraud. It would be crooked. It would be
    everything that i stand against."

    That's because you are a well-known mooch and someone would have you investigated and thrown in jail. On the plus side, you'd be fed and
    housed.

    "i'm asking y'all and and hilariously, i'm looking right. There's like
    one person watching this stream right now."

    Probably Omar or Desmond. Those evil, smug bastards!

    "i got 5,000 people following my page, and there's one person watching
    the stream right now. And i just, you know, we gotta get over this idea
    that somebody honestly asking for support is they must be the fraud.
    but it's the person that's out there who's pretending to be native
    american, who's pretending to be black, who's pretending to be gay,
    who's pretending to be a woman, who's pretending, pretending,
    pretending, lying through their teeth, and making stuff up. But it
    sounds good and it looks good on us socially when we appear to be
    supporting that. We gotta break that. We have to break that thinking.
    it's killing us. It is wiping us out. That is what's doing the damage
    to our democracy. This is why we don't have a real left-wing in this
    country. This is why so many of us are struggling. This is why the
    amptp and the automakers think that they can get away with continuing
    to hurt people and threaten people and punish people for demanding
    better working conditions and all the other stuff that's going on right
    now with these strikes. Because we put all of our energy behind these
    frauds and these grifters. And in the meantime, people like me are out
    here trying to do it authentically because everybody wants authenticity
    except they want a highly polished and well-rehearsed and, you know,
    they want authentic bullshit. And that's going to stop. That's gotta
    stop. That is what's hurting us. And, you know, again, this, you know,
    my personal problems and the things that i'm going through are
    definitely a major problem. And if something does not happen in a huge
    way in the next month or so, i really just don't know what i'm going to
    do or where i'm going to be. But right now, as things stand, if
    something doesn't happen very soon, i'm going to be on the streets on
    december 1st, and you're not going to hear from me anymore. And i would
    rather not see that happen for my own selfish reasons, obviously, but
    also because i've still got a lot of work to do and a lot of things to
    say and a lot of information and energy to put out there into the
    world. And that includes, you know, supporting."

    John even ran down the one person watching this? How much more DeJong
    can you get?

    "i've recently become. There's a really great page out there called vox
    plus guest that is run by the members of a band called vox plus sticks.
    um, and they are just incredible energy for mutual aid and sharing and everything else. So, the last week or so, i've had a lot of like
    independent musicians and so on and so forth which i love because i've
    been one for 45 years and i want to do everything i can to support
    them. I'm doing everything. Everything i know how to do. I am one
    person. And i am doing the work of 10 people every single day. And i
    want to be clear. I know i'm not sane. Okay? I know i'm not normal. I
    know i can sometimes come off abrasive or what have you. I get that. I understand that."

    You're a parasite and most people figure it out fairly quickly.

    "I am doing the work of 10 people every single day."

    Bullshit. You sit on your ass and cry that you're poor. You just did it
    again, Drama Queen.

    <flush the rest of his self-serving bullshit.>

    PS: Never go full DeJong!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Kara Mac@21:1/5 to Grudge Rounds on Tue Sep 19 04:19:26 2023
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:14:56 AM UTC-4, Grudge Rounds wrote:
    Taro Tsujimoto wrote:

    On Sep 18, 2023, rec.sport.pro-wrestling wrote
    (in article<473f8333-04a6-444d...@googlegroups.com>):

    There have been unfortunate new developments.

    https://www.facebook.com/events/974690483820390/?ref=rspw
    <snip baseless accusation and unnecessary abuse>

    Transcript:

    Alright, kids. How are you? I don't know what you're looking at. I
    don't know what we're looking at. But here I am. Uh, we are trying to
    make this live stream happen and I hope let me do something obvious so
    I can see what my lag is like here. Make sure I'm going to watch my
    stream. Okay. Looks like I'm good. Uh, so here I am. Uh, need to chat
    with you all about some ongoing situations. Let me wind things back up
    to sort of the beginning back in late February, the March of this year.
    Uh, I had been living in this horrible bedbug filled dope-filled mess
    of a trap house and things had got to the point where I just couldn't
    work. The landlord was uncooperative. I had roommates that were
    seriously problematic and damaging property and everything else. So, I
    was on the streets for a minute, actually in a hotel. Thanks to the
    generous assistance of friends. While I was staying at the hotel, I was actually on my last day and in the lobby trying to figure out how I was going to pay for one more night and I ran into a friend of mine that I
    had known back in high school. Haven't seen her for about 35 years. We
    got to talking. As it turned out, she is dealing with stage 4 terminal cancer in her lungs and her brain. She needed somebody to stay with
    her. She had a spare room and she needed somebody here to help out and basically just to be here in case she had some kind of medical problem
    and couldn't reach the phone, right? So, I've been here and I've been
    able to take advantage of a lot of time. I absolutely do not want to
    get into like running my roommate down. It's not what this is about.
    But the situation as it stands right now is she's been on disability
    and on disability, you have a grace period. I think it's nine months
    where you're still allowed to earn money and they don't penalize you or threaten to take you off the disability. Unfortunately, that grace
    period is about to end. With that grace period ending, she's still reasonably healthy and has been working and so on and so forth but
    that's going to have to end because if she continues working then her disability gets cut off and that's her health care and her medical insurance. Her employer's insurance doesn't cover chemotherapy,
    etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. So it's this big, snarled, tangled mess
    of who knows how you're going to deal with this, right? So she came to
    me today and you know, the deadline of December 1st has been impending
    for a time for 9 months. We knew this was coming. Excuse me. But what
    we didn't know was what was going to have to be done to deal with it.
    Now the problem is if I'm living here all of my income also counts
    against her disability. I can't get any of that stuff. I don't qualify
    for any of that stuff. What little I could maybe qualify for has years
    long waiting lists including housing and everything else because I have
    my own problems, right? It's been working out alright but
    unfortunately, it is not going to continue working alright.

    I have to leave. I have to be out of here December first because I
    can't be here. If I am here, that jeopardizes her access to medical
    care and her disability. Again, I don't want to get into the business
    of running my roommate down but my first response to that of course
    was, let's raise some money and get you a bank built up so we can make
    sure your property taxes are covered and everything else. We'll do a
    third party. That way, you're not handling the money and then it can be treated as a gift. It doesn't come against your disability and all that other stuff. I actually went so far. I started setting up a GoFundMe.
    Um and then I went and said, well, I made a picture to do this
    fundraiser and then it was, well, I didn't ask you for that. I didn't
    need the help. I don't want the help. That's not, I don't want any of
    that.

    Okay. Well, that means that there's nothing I can do and now I have to
    worry about helping myself. Um I there's there's literally my hands are tied. I don't want to approach the situation like this. Uh I don't I
    this is not what I want to be doing. Uh on any level. Uh I don't want
    to move out. I don't want to leave her here by herself to to deal with
    all this stuff. Um but it clearly the situation is I've got to go. Um
    and so that's that's where we're at right now. Uh and I'm a little
    freaked out and I'm very very scared and very very worried. Um I've
    been slowly you know trying to build this page up and and trying to to
    to reach out to to everybody. Uh and let you know. Like we've gotta
    we've gotta step on this and and some people have and I I seriously appreciate that. Um but it's also you know it's it's 20 bucks. It's you know, 50 bucks if I'm lucky. Um and and my monthly income is still, you know, on the order of three, $400 Um right now, I'm on Facebook's bonus program. Uh they added me to that a couple of months ago And I had that
    post go viral here about a week and a half ago. Uh before it was
    shamelessly stolen by the other ninety-eight percent. Um I ended up
    with about 850, 000 views on that. Like 130000 likes. Added a couple of hundred people to to my followers on on this page. Uh and the the money translation from that worked out to about well, I was at about 12 bucks
    when it started. So, it's been like sixty-two, $63 that came on to that
    and that's awesome. I mean, I'm not trying to not appreciate that and
    I'm not trying to not appreciate the people who have helped out, you
    know, some folks have been helping for years, right? There's there's,
    you know, I've got patrons who have been signed up for a couple of
    years at five bucks a piece. I've got a two patrons over there that are
    50 bucks a month and they've been on there one one friend of mine has
    been off and on for a couple of years. Uh another friend who's also,
    you know, a reader on this page has been there at fifty bucks since the beginning of this year and all of that helps and I appreciate. I would
    not be able to maintain even my Adobe subscription. Uh if if not for
    that but it's also not survivable. Um and now, I am in a really really difficult position. Uh in that, I don't know how I'm going to live. I
    don't know how I'm going to survive. I don't know where I'm going to
    go. I don't know how I'm going to get there. Uh the the externally
    sourced drama that originally resulted in me, you know, being having to
    move into that boarding house in the first place. Uh that was, you
    know, my my loving family and thanks to that. I have an eviction on my record. So, I can't just jump out and go, oh, hey, here's, you know,
    couple hundred bucks. Uh, security deposit a month's rent, you're going
    to let me move in, right? Um, because I've got an eviction on my
    record. Um, and, and we all know that the housing situation out there
    is absolutely horrible. Anyway, landlords are charging, you know, two,
    three months worth of rent all kinds of ridiculous security deposits
    and fees and everything else. It's it's not easy for anybody out there
    right now to do to find a place to be, okay? Why I've done this video
    and and why I'm I'm doing this video all of the top of my head is to
    try to reach out and let you all know that the time is now. Um the this
    this entire situation has to change. I have to get stabilized.

    I have to grow my audience to the point of being able to sustain. I've
    been out here for, you know, the 15 years doing this stuff, and I've
    been just absolutely crushed by, you know, these giant grifting pages
    that are working against me. I got stalkers going on, and people going
    back channel and all kinds of rumor mongering. Just every single thing
    in the world that could be, you know, working against me has been for a
    long time. And I continue waking up every day and leaning in and
    saying, 'Hey, I'm going to come out here and I am going to keep doing
    the best I can to make the world a better place, and to make life
    easier for all of us.' And try to teach people how to make life easier
    for themselves and make better decisions about their leadership and all
    of that stuff because I'm not out here trying to cover my own ass. I'm trying to get everybody's ass covered. I'm trying to bring everybody
    up. And like I said, this has been going on for a decade plus now.
    That, you know, these big pages that you know the other ninety-eight
    and the being liberal and blah blah blah. All these big astroturf fake grassroots grifters who have no ideological commitment. Whatever, the
    only thing they're interested in is pandering the people's biases and
    making money. They're making money hand over fist, right? Millions and millions of dollars a year and here I still sit. Here I still sit. And
    so, I don't, again, it's, I don't want to be, you know, self-pity, and
    I don't want you to pity me, and I don't want you to feel sorry for me.
    I want you to understand that the work I'm doing is worthwhile and it
    is adding positive effects to the world and doing good and nudging the battleship of humanity a quarter degree at a time in a more sane
    direction with all of your help. And I have enjoyed the privilege of
    having an audience and having a platform. In spite of, you know, losing
    the Obama page last year, which is 200,000 people that Facebook cut off because one of the admins was sloppy about what they were posting. And
    just on and on.

    I have been beating my hand against the wall for a decade and a half. Hanging on by my fingernails as they pull out of my fingers
    desperately, desperately trying to stay alive and get ahead. And the
    only thing I've been able to do is just barely stay alive. And I love
    you all, but that has to change, and it has to change like today. And
    so what I'm asking her to do, I'm not going to be here all night. I'm
    going to try to get this. It's probably not going to be under fifteen,
    but I'm going to try to get it under 20 minutes. What I'm asking to do
    is please, please, please, please, everything I post, engage, like,
    share, comment, spread it around. Tell people, I post regular
    fundraising links to the PayPal and to the Linktree, into the Patreon,
    and my website where I've got the shopping cart set up. And I've been
    doing some other new stuff over there so people can make contributions
    that are directly targeted towards like paying for Adobe software and
    so on and so forth.

    I desperately, desperately need all of the help I can get. And I want
    to be absolutely clear. There's a lot of BS that goes on out there
    about me. A lot of people talk crap behind my back and whatever. And I
    don't pay attention to it much unless it gets right in my face and I
    have to. There's no ulterior motive here. I'm not strung out on drugs.
    I'm not out blowing money on gambling or throwing it away. None of that stuff. Right? There is no secret here. I am here to help me. I mean,
    it's legitimate and authentic and grassroots and independent as anybody possibly can be. I don't take money from the Democratic Party, the way
    that some of these big pages do. I don't take money from corporate
    sponsors the way that some of these big pages do. I don't want other people's advertisements on my Facebook page, etc., etc., etc.

    I have gone out of my way and done incredible damage in my own life
    and to my own space, into my own survivability, and my health, and my
    mental health. For years and years and years to try to get ahead and
    get out into the world and say, hey, look, here is what we need to do.
    Here is the information. We need to be more politically literate. We
    need to stop being enslaved by our egos and insisting on rejecting any information that suggests to us that maybe we've been calm or been
    fooled or been led astray by bad ideas or getting sucked into things
    that appeal to our biases and egos rather than the truth, etcetera.

    I'm out here working, doing the very best that I can, right? I've been
    doing it forever. My name and my face are all over the internet for 15,
    20 years. Being this hard left, anti-capitalist, political activist,
    even if I wasn't over 50 years old, I would not be employable at this
    point. People are not going to hire somebody when they are legally
    allowed in this country, which they aren't in some countries, to go
    digging through Google and digging through my Facebook history and everything else and deciding, oh, this guy is, he's a lefty. He's an anti-fascist. He's an anti-capitalist. He's going to come in and be disruptive and he's going to be a problem for us so we're not going to
    hire him. Now, on the face of it, of course, that's illegal as hell.
    You're not allowed to do that. It is a refuse to hire somebody over
    their political beliefs but long as they're not stupid enough to tell
    me to my face, that's why I'm not being hired. There's nothing I can do about it. And now I'm old.

    I just don't know what to do anymore. I'm at my absolute wit's end. I
    just don't know what to do anymore. What I do know is that giving up is
    not an option. Not doing the work that I do here on this page and on
    the website and all the political stuff and all the media and
    information literacy stuff and trying to expose these frauds and
    grifters that are in various spaces, including it's not just the
    political space. I've been looking at all these Native American pages
    that are on Facebook and stuff over the last couple of days and it's
    like nine out of ten of them, all the administrators are based in like Vietnam or the Philippines. These are Native Americans. These are
    thieves, you know, and they're thieves. They use the imagery and the
    ideas and the symbolism of Native American culture to appeal to people
    who are attracted to that and suck money out of their pockets and sell
    cheap T-shirts and so on and so forth. And it's a problem in every
    sector on social media. There are so many scams out there and there are
    so many people that are just I don't know what happened to human
    conscience. I don't know how these people do this. I don't know how
    anybody can go out and just flat out lie to millions of people and
    steal money and energy and time and work from real activists who are
    trying to make the world better and put it in their pocket to the tune
    of millions of dollars a year and live with themselves. I don't know
    how people do that. And I'm not in that business. I've never been in
    that business, right?

    It would be so easy for me and would have been at any point in the last
    7 months, right? I could easily come out and say, hey, you know,
    cancer roommate, medical cause, need money, and I could spam that all
    over social media and the money would come rolling in but it would be dishonest. It would be fraud. It would be crooked. It would be
    everything that I stand against.

    I'm asking y'all and and hilariously, I'm looking right. There's like
    one person watching this stream right now.

    I got 5,000 people following my page, and there's one person watching
    the stream right now. And I just, you know, we gotta get over this idea
    that somebody honestly asking for support is they must be the fraud.
    But it's the person that's out there who's pretending to be Native
    American, who's pretending to be black, who's pretending to be gay,
    who's pretending to be a woman, who's pretending, pretending,
    pretending, lying through their teeth, and making stuff up. But it
    sounds good and it looks good on us socially when we appear to be
    supporting that. We gotta break that. We have to break that thinking.
    It's killing us. It is wiping us out. That is what's doing the damage
    to our democracy. This is why we don't have a real left-wing in this country. This is why so many of us are struggling. This is why the
    AMPTP and the automakers think that they can get away with continuing
    to hurt people and threaten people and punish people for demanding
    better working conditions and all the other stuff that's going on right
    now with these strikes. Because we put all of our energy behind these
    frauds and these grifters. And in the meantime, people like me are out
    here trying to do it authentically because everybody wants authenticity except they want a highly polished and well-rehearsed and, you know,
    they want authentic bullshit. And that's going to stop. That's gotta
    stop. That is what's hurting us. And, you know, again, this, you know,
    my personal problems and the things that I'm going through are
    definitely a major problem. And if something does not happen in a huge
    way in the next month or so, I really just don't know what I'm going to
    do or where I'm going to be. But right now, as things stand, if
    something doesn't happen very soon, I'm going to be on the streets on December 1st, and you're not going to hear from me anymore. And I would rather not see that happen for my own selfish reasons, obviously, but
    also because I've still got a lot of work to do and a lot of things to
    say and a lot of information and energy to put out there into the
    world. And that includes, you know, supporting.

    I've recently become. There's a really great page out there called Vox
    Plus Guest that is run by the members of a band called Vox Plus Sticks.
    Um, and they are just incredible energy for mutual aid and sharing and everything else. So, the last week or so, I've had a lot of like
    independent musicians and so on and so forth which I love because I've
    been one for 45 years and I want to do everything I can to support
    them. I'm doing everything. Everything I know how to do. I am one
    person. And I am doing the work of 10 people every single day. And I
    want to be clear. I know I'm not sane. Okay? I know I'm not normal. I
    know I can sometimes come off abrasive or what have you. I get that. I understand that. That's the world we live in. And that's what needs to change. That's the evolution that needs to happen is we need to start breaking this thinking. We need to start breaking our training and this commercialism and all the things that we've been, you know, taught
    through advertising and marketing tricks in terms of only believing
    people that are already rich and then they need more money. Like, that doesn't make any sense, right? So, I'm already again 2 minutes past
    where I wanted to be. I'm going to go ahead and cut it off here pretty
    quick but I want to just leave you with a thought. Please, man. Please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, engage with my work on my page, share, spread it around. Don't be
    afraid to say to people, hey, this guy deserves your support. This guy deserves your help. He deserves your attention, right? If I can blow up
    on Facebook and stay blown up, the income from that will cover me,
    right? I can make up to $30,000 a month from Facebook. Right now, you
    know, like I said, I got seventy bucks. Need to need to move that up
    and I got a couple of folks that have been following me. Uh especially
    Tony Nelson. I definitely wanted to give a shout out too because he's
    been a friend of mine for a long long time back to the wrestling group
    in the nineties. Um and he's just been sharing everything. And and
    liking everything and leaving comments on tons of stuff. And that is
    the energy I need from like all 5000 of you. I really really need that.
    I need you to make that extra little effort for me. A couple of times a
    day. Spend 5 minutes. Dropped by the page. Like the stuff that I've
    posted. Share the video is share the articles, all that other stuff.
    Get it out there. Bring people in and let's build this up because I I
    need, you know, I I don't want to use the word miracle because I'm an atheist. I don't believe in miracles. But what I need is a break for
    one goddamn time in my life. I just need a real break. I've been out
    here doing the work and I've been doing it. You know, it's not that I
    don't have a self-interest, right? I don't want to sit here. Oh, I
    sacrifice myself for you. It's not all nobility if we improve the
    world. My life gets better if we live in a world where we have robust
    social welfare programs and we've adjusted our thinking to get away
    from some of this in-grouping and the capital just the aspiration and
    all that other stuff that improves my life absolutely that makes things better and helps end the situations that create where I am right now
    and so I'm just please man I'm just asking you you have to send money.
    I obviously, if you've got something you can, by all means, please do. There's links on the little lower third graphic there. It's got my
    Patreon link in it. I think my PayPal that's circulating here and I'll
    go ahead. I think the comments on the live stream have links. Uh let me
    let me pop over in my little control console here and I can get the
    graphic on screen for the contribution links as well. Um let me go
    ahead and get my picture and picture up there on the top as well so you
    can see that, okay? And then we'll and letting not restart the
    introduction to this show. Uh there we go. Those are the big three
    right there. The PayPal address. Uh the support page at my website and
    then that cash tag which works for Cash App and Cash.me and Chime.

    Um, anything you can do, whether it's a dollar or $5 or 50 or 500 or
    5,000, anything up to the legal limit of nine thousand nine 999 dollars
    and ninety-nine cents, I need it. I need it because even when I get
    this housing situation and stabilization problem solved, I'm still
    working on a ten-year-old computer. I'm still using this horrible,
    cheap, 1080P webcam that I've had for 10 years. I don't have the right microphone. If I touch this thing the wrong way, the microphone
    connection goes out because it's worn and it's cheap and it needs to be replaced. I need your help. Please. If nothing else, if nothing else,
    please get active on the engagement. Like, share, comment, subscribe,
    tell other people. I am not asking you to go out there and tell all
    your friends and pester them like some sort of, you know, candy sale at school that your kid is doing, but it sure wouldn't hurt if 20 people
    out of the 5000 folks that are following this page, you know, if 20 or
    30 people every week just shared something with a little note that
    says, 'Hey, this guy's pretty good at what he does. You should pay
    attention to him. Maybe support him if you can.' You'd be amazed,
    right? That message that went viral last week, that thing sat for, you
    know, almost a week before anybody noticed it and then somewhere along
    the line, somebody picked it up and shared it in the right place and it
    went nuts, and then all of a sudden it starts to build on itself. Then,
    I see people like Lala Larkas and David Gerald and people with big,
    huge platforms are also sharing, and that again, it just reinforces and reinforces itself and it becomes sort of a positive feedback mechanism.
    If I can get to the point where I'm reaching, you know, 5,000 people a
    day on a regular basis even, then, all of a sudden we have some hope.
    But right now it's kind of, man, I just don't know. I just don't know
    what's going to happen. And you know, we're not even talking about, you know, mental illness issues and majority, all that other stuff that I
    deal with anyway. It's not, that's not part of the conversation right
    now. This is just a human being who's out here trying to do the right
    thing as best they can. It has been for a long time and unfortunately,
    what I do works against the business model of nearly everybody else
    that is doing this kind of thing including occupied Democrats,
    including the other ninety-eight. Any big page that you can think of,
    you know, the Jojo from Jersey and the Brooklyn dad and the really
    American. All of these pages are backed by major political party money
    and they're crushing me and they're crushing people like me. And the
    only way that's going to stop is if we, the people, you and I, we, the people engage and work together and push so that people like me have
    the floor and people like them, the grifters, the fakes, the frauds,
    the astroturfers, lose their floor. They don't deserve to have that platform. So, and I think that's where I'm going to cut it off. So,
    thank you very much. I appreciate everybody watching. If you can help, please do. You can send stars through Facebook if you want to. All that stuff that's on my website and then the PayPal, the Patreon, I just set
    up a CoFi coffee, however you pronounce it, account, and all of those
    links are actually in the about section of this Facebook page, and you
    can check all that stuff out. And in the meantime, thanks a whole lot.
    I love you. Much power to all the people. I will continue, as I have
    most of my life, to be in every possible way, a champion of the
    oppressed and the underdogs until I cannot raise my head anymore. That
    is what I do and that is what I'm going to do until I die. I would just rather that didn't happen soon. So, if you can do what you can, please
    do. And that's it for me. Thank you very much. Have a great night, and
    I'll see you soon. Keep an eye on the page. By the way, oh hey, I
    almost forgot too. I started a group that's attached to the Facebook
    page now. So, make sure you're joining that and taking part in that so
    that I can that is I'm going to try to move like alittle short kind of almost personal status messages and things like that.

    I'm going to try to move all that stuff over there so that the content
    on this page is focused on 'quote unquote' real content. Um, Facebook doesn't necessarily penalize you for posting a lot, but it's just a
    math thing, right? If I'm putting up 100 or 120 messages a day, then a smaller percentage of those messages are going to show up on people's timelines because if they didn't, you would have nothing but John
    Andrea on your timeline, and Facebook doesn't want that unless I pay
    them, which I can't afford to do. Um, so get in the group. Um, get that taken care of. It's linked. There's actually, I think I pinned the post
    on the page. Uh, so if you look at the John Henry US page here on
    Facebook, right at the top of the feed there, you should see a post
    that has a link to the new group. Just go there, hit the join button.
    I'll get you, I'll get you, you know, authorized in and there as
    quickly as I can. Um, and just, you know, pay attention. Do what you
    can. I know it's not the rousing Norman race speech everybody came for,
    but this is the reality that we're in, and I'm not, I'm not a song and dance. I'm not going to put on some bullshit act. Uh, pretend to be something I'm not. Hey, everybody. Here's a big smile for you. Let's
    all be popular and let's talk about keywords and let's appeal to your
    biases so that you think I'm special and cool, and then you really like being, hey, did I mention that I'm, you know, native and black and blah
    blah blah. No, I'm just not going to do that. Going to do that. The
    work that I do is worthy of your support. There is, I don't have any question about that. It's just a matter of getting through this induced
    sort of, you know, I call it the crass ceiling where where we as, you
    know, American consumers have been trained for years to assume that
    anybody who's poor is poor because they are, you know, some kind of
    loser and jerk and they deserve it. Uh, and anybody who's rich deserves
    to have more money. Let's break that thinking and let's start here,
    okay? Please, thank you. Have a good night.

    Crunch time!! John Henry Dejong has over two months notice. Two months of a full time minimum wage job is at least $300/week, and he has nine weeks. $2700 could get him into a flop house for sure!!!
    Nah- crazy thoughts. For sure McDs is taking time to search potential employees for radical left behavior. No way are they going to have a guy who can topple capitalism on that fryalator- no sir-ee bob.
    On the one hand he complains no one is watching/ seeing/ sharing, on the other he is so big time super dangerous that everyone is out to get him.
    So no. No job is possible. Surely the best course of action is pushing the exact same thing that has not worked for over 20 years because THIS time- THIS time it's gonna happen.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Davey Zimmerman #274@21:1/5 to Kara Mac on Tue Sep 19 15:42:32 2023
    Kara Mac <karamcnamara0630@gmail.com> wrote in news:8bb93dd5-4d06-4bfd-bba2-5447cee21c63n@googlegroups.com:

    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:14:56 AM UTC-4, Grudge Rounds
    wrote:
    Taro Tsujimoto wrote:

    On Sep 18, 2023, rec.sport.pro-wrestling wrote
    (in article<473f8333-04a6-444d...@googlegroups.com>):

    There have been unfortunate new developments.

    https://www.facebook.com/events/974690483820390/?ref=rspw
    <snip baseless accusation and unnecessary abuse>

    Transcript:

    Alright, kids. How are you? I don't know what you're looking at. I
    don't know what we're looking at. But here I am. Uh, we are trying to
    make this live stream happen and I hope let me do something obvious
    so I can see what my lag is like here. Make sure I'm going to watch
    my stream. Okay. Looks like I'm good. Uh, so here I am. Uh, need to
    chat with you all about some ongoing situations. Let me wind things
    back up to sort of the beginning back in late February, the March of
    this year.

    Uh, I had been living in this horrible bedbug filled dope-filled mess
    of a trap house and things had got to the point where I just couldn't
    work. The landlord was uncooperative. I had roommates that were
    seriously problematic and damaging property and everything else. So,
    I was on the streets for a minute, actually in a hotel. Thanks to the
    generous assistance of friends. While I was staying at the hotel, I
    was

    actually on my last day and in the lobby trying to figure out how I
    was

    going to pay for one more night and I ran into a friend of mine that
    I had known back in high school. Haven't seen her for about 35 years.
    We got to talking. As it turned out, she is dealing with stage 4
    terminal cancer in her lungs and her brain. She needed somebody to
    stay with her. She had a spare room and she needed somebody here to
    help out and basically just to be here in case she had some kind of
    medical problem and couldn't reach the phone, right? So, I've been
    here and I've been able to take advantage of a lot of time. I
    absolutely do not want to get into like running my roommate down.
    It's not what this is about. But the situation as it stands right now
    is she's been on disability and on disability, you have a grace
    period. I think it's nine months where you're still allowed to earn
    money and they don't penalize you or

    threaten to take you off the disability. Unfortunately, that grace
    period is about to end. With that grace period ending, she's still
    reasonably healthy and has been working and so on and so forth but
    that's going to have to end because if she continues working then her
    disability gets cut off and that's her health care and her medical
    insurance. Her employer's insurance doesn't cover chemotherapy,
    etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. So it's this big, snarled, tangled mess
    of who knows how you're going to deal with this, right? So she came
    to me today and you know, the deadline of December 1st has been
    impending for a time for 9 months. We knew this was coming. Excuse
    me. But what we didn't know was what was going to have to be done to
    deal with it. Now the problem is if I'm living here all of my income
    also counts against her disability. I can't get any of that stuff. I
    don't qualify for any of that stuff. What little I could maybe
    qualify for has years long waiting lists including housing and
    everything else because I have

    my own problems, right? It's been working out alright but
    unfortunately, it is not going to continue working alright.

    I have to leave. I have to be out of here December first because I
    can't be here. If I am here, that jeopardizes her access to medical
    care and her disability. Again, I don't want to get into the business
    of running my roommate down but my first response to that of course
    was, let's raise some money and get you a bank built up so we can
    make sure your property taxes are covered and everything else. We'll
    do a third party. That way, you're not handling the money and then it
    can be

    treated as a gift. It doesn't come against your disability and all
    that

    other stuff. I actually went so far. I started setting up a GoFundMe.
    Um and then I went and said, well, I made a picture to do this
    fundraiser and then it was, well, I didn't ask you for that. I didn't
    need the help. I don't want the help. That's not, I don't want any of
    that.

    Okay. Well, that means that there's nothing I can do and now I have
    to worry about helping myself. Um I there's there's literally my
    hands are

    tied. I don't want to approach the situation like this. Uh I don't I
    this is not what I want to be doing. Uh on any level. Uh I don't want
    to move out. I don't want to leave her here by herself to to deal
    with all this stuff. Um but it clearly the situation is I've got to
    go. Um and so that's that's where we're at right now. Uh and I'm a
    little freaked out and I'm very very scared and very very worried. Um
    I've been slowly you know trying to build this page up and and trying
    to to to reach out to to everybody. Uh and let you know. Like we've
    gotta we've gotta step on this and and some people have and I I
    seriously appreciate that. Um but it's also you know it's it's 20
    bucks. It's you

    know, 50 bucks if I'm lucky. Um and and my monthly income is still,
    you

    know, on the order of three, $400 Um right now, I'm on Facebook's
    bonus

    program. Uh they added me to that a couple of months ago And I had
    that

    post go viral here about a week and a half ago. Uh before it was
    shamelessly stolen by the other ninety-eight percent. Um I ended up
    with about 850, 000 views on that. Like 130000 likes. Added a couple
    of

    hundred people to to my followers on on this page. Uh and the the
    money

    translation from that worked out to about well, I was at about 12
    bucks

    when it started. So, it's been like sixty-two, $63 that came on to
    that

    and that's awesome. I mean, I'm not trying to not appreciate that and
    I'm not trying to not appreciate the people who have helped out, you
    know, some folks have been helping for years, right? There's there's,
    you know, I've got patrons who have been signed up for a couple of
    years at five bucks a piece. I've got a two patrons over there that
    are

    50 bucks a month and they've been on there one one friend of mine has
    been off and on for a couple of years. Uh another friend who's also,
    you know, a reader on this page has been there at fifty bucks since
    the

    beginning of this year and all of that helps and I appreciate. I
    would not be able to maintain even my Adobe subscription. Uh if if
    not for that but it's also not survivable. Um and now, I am in a
    really really difficult position. Uh in that, I don't know how I'm
    going to live. I don't know how I'm going to survive. I don't know
    where I'm going to go. I don't know how I'm going to get there. Uh
    the the externally sourced drama that originally resulted in me, you
    know, being having to

    move into that boarding house in the first place. Uh that was, you
    know, my my loving family and thanks to that. I have an eviction on
    my record. So, I can't just jump out and go, oh, hey, here's, you
    know, couple hundred bucks. Uh, security deposit a month's rent,
    you're going

    to let me move in, right? Um, because I've got an eviction on my
    record. Um, and, and we all know that the housing situation out there
    is absolutely horrible. Anyway, landlords are charging, you know,
    two, three months worth of rent all kinds of ridiculous security
    deposits and fees and everything else. It's it's not easy for anybody
    out there right now to do to find a place to be, okay? Why I've done
    this video and and why I'm I'm doing this video all of the top of my
    head is to try to reach out and let you all know that the time is
    now. Um the this

    this entire situation has to change. I have to get stabilized.

    I have to grow my audience to the point of being able to sustain.
    I've been out here for, you know, the 15 years doing this stuff, and
    I've been just absolutely crushed by, you know, these giant grifting
    pages that are working against me. I got stalkers going on, and
    people going back channel and all kinds of rumor mongering. Just
    every single thing in the world that could be, you know, working
    against me has been for a

    long time. And I continue waking up every day and leaning in and
    saying, 'Hey, I'm going to come out here and I am going to keep doing
    the best I can to make the world a better place, and to make life
    easier for all of us.' And try to teach people how to make life
    easier for themselves and make better decisions about their
    leadership and all

    of that stuff because I'm not out here trying to cover my own ass.
    I'm trying to get everybody's ass covered. I'm trying to bring
    everybody up. And like I said, this has been going on for a decade
    plus now. That, you know, these big pages that you know the other
    ninety-eight and the being liberal and blah blah blah. All these big
    astroturf fake grassroots grifters who have no ideological
    commitment. Whatever, the only thing they're interested in is
    pandering the people's biases and making money. They're making money
    hand over fist, right? Millions and millions of dollars a year and
    here I still sit. Here I still sit. And so, I don't, again, it's, I
    don't want to be, you know, self-pity, and I don't want you to pity
    me, and I don't want you to feel sorry for me.

    I want you to understand that the work I'm doing is worthwhile and it
    is adding positive effects to the world and doing good and nudging
    the battleship of humanity a quarter degree at a time in a more sane
    direction with all of your help. And I have enjoyed the privilege of
    having an audience and having a platform. In spite of, you know,
    losing

    the Obama page last year, which is 200,000 people that Facebook cut
    off

    because one of the admins was sloppy about what they were posting.
    And just on and on.

    I have been beating my hand against the wall for a decade and a half.
    Hanging on by my fingernails as they pull out of my fingers
    desperately, desperately trying to stay alive and get ahead. And the
    only thing I've been able to do is just barely stay alive. And I love
    you all, but that has to change, and it has to change like today. And
    so what I'm asking her to do, I'm not going to be here all night. I'm
    going to try to get this. It's probably not going to be under
    fifteen, but I'm going to try to get it under 20 minutes. What I'm
    asking to do is please, please, please, please, everything I post,
    engage, like, share, comment, spread it around. Tell people, I post
    regular fundraising links to the PayPal and to the Linktree, into the
    Patreon, and my website where I've got the shopping cart set up. And
    I've been doing some other new stuff over there so people can make
    contributions that are directly targeted towards like paying for
    Adobe software and so on and so forth.

    I desperately, desperately need all of the help I can get. And I want
    to be absolutely clear. There's a lot of BS that goes on out there
    about me. A lot of people talk crap behind my back and whatever. And
    I don't pay attention to it much unless it gets right in my face and
    I have to. There's no ulterior motive here. I'm not strung out on
    drugs. I'm not out blowing money on gambling or throwing it away.
    None of that

    stuff. Right? There is no secret here. I am here to help me. I mean,
    it's legitimate and authentic and grassroots and independent as
    anybody

    possibly can be. I don't take money from the Democratic Party, the
    way that some of these big pages do. I don't take money from
    corporate sponsors the way that some of these big pages do. I don't
    want other people's advertisements on my Facebook page, etc., etc.,
    etc.

    I have gone out of my way and done incredible damage in my own life
    and to my own space, into my own survivability, and my health, and my
    mental health. For years and years and years to try to get ahead and
    get out into the world and say, hey, look, here is what we need to
    do. Here is the information. We need to be more politically literate.
    We need to stop being enslaved by our egos and insisting on rejecting
    any information that suggests to us that maybe we've been calm or
    been fooled or been led astray by bad ideas or getting sucked into
    things that appeal to our biases and egos rather than the truth,
    etcetera.

    I'm out here working, doing the very best that I can, right? I've
    been doing it forever. My name and my face are all over the internet
    for 15,

    20 years. Being this hard left, anti-capitalist, political activist,
    even if I wasn't over 50 years old, I would not be employable at this
    point. People are not going to hire somebody when they are legally
    allowed in this country, which they aren't in some countries, to go
    digging through Google and digging through my Facebook history and
    everything else and deciding, oh, this guy is, he's a lefty. He's an
    anti-fascist. He's an anti-capitalist. He's going to come in and be
    disruptive and he's going to be a problem for us so we're not going
    to hire him. Now, on the face of it, of course, that's illegal as
    hell. You're not allowed to do that. It is a refuse to hire somebody
    over their political beliefs but long as they're not stupid enough to
    tell me to my face, that's why I'm not being hired. There's nothing I
    can do

    about it. And now I'm old.

    I just don't know what to do anymore. I'm at my absolute wit's end. I
    just don't know what to do anymore. What I do know is that giving up
    is

    not an option. Not doing the work that I do here on this page and on
    the website and all the political stuff and all the media and
    information literacy stuff and trying to expose these frauds and
    grifters that are in various spaces, including it's not just the
    political space. I've been looking at all these Native American pages
    that are on Facebook and stuff over the last couple of days and it's
    like nine out of ten of them, all the administrators are based in
    like Vietnam or the Philippines. These are Native Americans. These
    are thieves, you know, and they're thieves. They use the imagery and
    the ideas and the symbolism of Native American culture to appeal to
    people who are attracted to that and suck money out of their pockets
    and sell cheap T-shirts and so on and so forth. And it's a problem in
    every sector on social media. There are so many scams out there and
    there are

    so many people that are just I don't know what happened to human
    conscience. I don't know how these people do this. I don't know how
    anybody can go out and just flat out lie to millions of people and
    steal money and energy and time and work from real activists who are
    trying to make the world better and put it in their pocket to the
    tune of millions of dollars a year and live with themselves. I don't
    know how people do that. And I'm not in that business. I've never
    been in that business, right?

    It would be so easy for me and would have been at any point in the
    last

    7 months, right? I could easily come out and say, hey, you know,
    cancer roommate, medical cause, need money, and I could spam that all
    over social media and the money would come rolling in but it would be
    dishonest. It would be fraud. It would be crooked. It would be
    everything that I stand against.

    I'm asking y'all and and hilariously, I'm looking right. There's like
    one person watching this stream right now.

    I got 5,000 people following my page, and there's one person watching
    the stream right now. And I just, you know, we gotta get over this
    idea

    that somebody honestly asking for support is they must be the fraud.
    But it's the person that's out there who's pretending to be Native
    American, who's pretending to be black, who's pretending to be gay,
    who's pretending to be a woman, who's pretending, pretending,
    pretending, lying through their teeth, and making stuff up. But it
    sounds good and it looks good on us socially when we appear to be
    supporting that. We gotta break that. We have to break that thinking.
    It's killing us. It is wiping us out. That is what's doing the damage
    to our democracy. This is why we don't have a real left-wing in this
    country. This is why so many of us are struggling. This is why the
    AMPTP and the automakers think that they can get away with continuing
    to hurt people and threaten people and punish people for demanding
    better working conditions and all the other stuff that's going on
    right

    now with these strikes. Because we put all of our energy behind these
    frauds and these grifters. And in the meantime, people like me are
    out here trying to do it authentically because everybody wants
    authenticity

    except they want a highly polished and well-rehearsed and, you know,
    they want authentic bullshit. And that's going to stop. That's gotta
    stop. That is what's hurting us. And, you know, again, this, you
    know, my personal problems and the things that I'm going through are
    definitely a major problem. And if something does not happen in a
    huge way in the next month or so, I really just don't know what I'm
    going to

    do or where I'm going to be. But right now, as things stand, if
    something doesn't happen very soon, I'm going to be on the streets on
    December 1st, and you're not going to hear from me anymore. And I
    would

    rather not see that happen for my own selfish reasons, obviously, but
    also because I've still got a lot of work to do and a lot of things
    to say and a lot of information and energy to put out there into the
    world. And that includes, you know, supporting.

    I've recently become. There's a really great page out there called
    Vox Plus Guest that is run by the members of a band called Vox Plus
    Sticks.

    Um, and they are just incredible energy for mutual aid and sharing
    and everything else. So, the last week or so, I've had a lot of like
    independent musicians and so on and so forth which I love because
    I've been one for 45 years and I want to do everything I can to
    support them. I'm doing everything. Everything I know how to do. I am
    one person. And I am doing the work of 10 people every single day.
    And I want to be clear. I know I'm not sane. Okay? I know I'm not
    normal. I know I can sometimes come off abrasive or what have you. I
    get that. I understand that. That's the world we live in. And that's
    what needs to change. That's the evolution that needs to happen is we
    need to start breaking this thinking. We need to start breaking our
    training and this

    commercialism and all the things that we've been, you know, taught
    through advertising and marketing tricks in terms of only believing
    people that are already rich and then they need more money. Like,
    that doesn't make any sense, right? So, I'm already again 2 minutes
    past where I wanted to be. I'm going to go ahead and cut it off here
    pretty quick but I want to just leave you with a thought. Please,
    man. Please,

    please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please,
    please,

    engage with my work on my page, share, spread it around. Don't be
    afraid to say to people, hey, this guy deserves your support. This
    guy deserves your help. He deserves your attention, right? If I can
    blow up

    on Facebook and stay blown up, the income from that will cover me,
    right? I can make up to $30,000 a month from Facebook. Right now, you
    know, like I said, I got seventy bucks. Need to need to move that up
    and I got a couple of folks that have been following me. Uh
    especially Tony Nelson. I definitely wanted to give a shout out too
    because he's been a friend of mine for a long long time back to the
    wrestling group in the nineties. Um and he's just been sharing
    everything. And and liking everything and leaving comments on tons of
    stuff. And that is the energy I need from like all 5000 of you. I
    really really need that.

    I need you to make that extra little effort for me. A couple of times
    a

    day. Spend 5 minutes. Dropped by the page. Like the stuff that I've
    posted. Share the video is share the articles, all that other stuff.
    Get it out there. Bring people in and let's build this up because I I
    need, you know, I I don't want to use the word miracle because I'm an
    atheist. I don't believe in miracles. But what I need is a break for
    one goddamn time in my life. I just need a real break. I've been out
    here doing the work and I've been doing it. You know, it's not that I
    don't have a self-interest, right? I don't want to sit here. Oh, I
    sacrifice myself for you. It's not all nobility if we improve the
    world. My life gets better if we live in a world where we have robust
    social welfare programs and we've adjusted our thinking to get away
    from some of this in-grouping and the capital just the aspiration and
    all that other stuff that improves my life absolutely that makes
    things

    better and helps end the situations that create where I am right now
    and so I'm just please man I'm just asking you you have to send
    money. I obviously, if you've got something you can, by all means,
    please do. There's links on the little lower third graphic there.
    It's got my Patreon link in it. I think my PayPal that's circulating
    here and I'll go ahead. I think the comments on the live stream have
    links. Uh let me

    let me pop over in my little control console here and I can get the
    graphic on screen for the contribution links as well. Um let me go
    ahead and get my picture and picture up there on the top as well so
    you

    can see that, okay? And then we'll and letting not restart the
    introduction to this show. Uh there we go. Those are the big three
    right there. The PayPal address. Uh the support page at my website
    and then that cash tag which works for Cash App and Cash.me and
    Chime.

    Um, anything you can do, whether it's a dollar or $5 or 50 or 500 or
    5,000, anything up to the legal limit of nine thousand nine 999
    dollars

    and ninety-nine cents, I need it. I need it because even when I get
    this housing situation and stabilization problem solved, I'm still
    working on a ten-year-old computer. I'm still using this horrible,
    cheap, 1080P webcam that I've had for 10 years. I don't have the
    right microphone. If I touch this thing the wrong way, the microphone
    connection goes out because it's worn and it's cheap and it needs to
    be

    replaced. I need your help. Please. If nothing else, if nothing else,
    please get active on the engagement. Like, share, comment, subscribe,
    tell other people. I am not asking you to go out there and tell all
    your friends and pester them like some sort of, you know, candy sale
    at

    school that your kid is doing, but it sure wouldn't hurt if 20 people
    out of the 5000 folks that are following this page, you know, if 20
    or 30 people every week just shared something with a little note that
    says, 'Hey, this guy's pretty good at what he does. You should pay
    attention to him. Maybe support him if you can.' You'd be amazed,
    right? That message that went viral last week, that thing sat for,
    you know, almost a week before anybody noticed it and then somewhere
    along the line, somebody picked it up and shared it in the right
    place and it

    went nuts, and then all of a sudden it starts to build on itself.
    Then,

    I see people like Lala Larkas and David Gerald and people with big,
    huge platforms are also sharing, and that again, it just reinforces
    and

    reinforces itself and it becomes sort of a positive feedback
    mechanism.

    If I can get to the point where I'm reaching, you know, 5,000 people
    a day on a regular basis even, then, all of a sudden we have some
    hope. But right now it's kind of, man, I just don't know. I just
    don't know what's going to happen. And you know, we're not even
    talking about, you

    know, mental illness issues and majority, all that other stuff that I
    deal with anyway. It's not, that's not part of the conversation right
    now. This is just a human being who's out here trying to do the right
    thing as best they can. It has been for a long time and
    unfortunately, what I do works against the business model of nearly
    everybody else that is doing this kind of thing including occupied
    Democrats, including the other ninety-eight. Any big page that you
    can think of, you know, the Jojo from Jersey and the Brooklyn dad and
    the really American. All of these pages are backed by major political
    party money and they're crushing me and they're crushing people like
    me. And the only way that's going to stop is if we, the people, you
    and I, we, the people engage and work together and push so that
    people like me have the floor and people like them, the grifters, the
    fakes, the frauds, the astroturfers, lose their floor. They don't
    deserve to have that platform. So, and I think that's where I'm going
    to cut it off. So, thank you very much. I appreciate everybody
    watching. If you can help, please do. You can send stars through
    Facebook if you want to. All that

    stuff that's on my website and then the PayPal, the Patreon, I just
    set

    up a CoFi coffee, however you pronounce it, account, and all of those
    links are actually in the about section of this Facebook page, and
    you can check all that stuff out. And in the meantime, thanks a whole
    lot. I love you. Much power to all the people. I will continue, as I
    have most of my life, to be in every possible way, a champion of the
    oppressed and the underdogs until I cannot raise my head anymore.
    That is what I do and that is what I'm going to do until I die. I
    would just

    rather that didn't happen soon. So, if you can do what you can,
    please do. And that's it for me. Thank you very much. Have a great
    night, and I'll see you soon. Keep an eye on the page. By the way, oh
    hey, I almost forgot too. I started a group that's attached to the
    Facebook page now. So, make sure you're joining that and taking part
    in that so that I can that is I'm going to try to move like alittle
    short kind of almost personal status messages and things like that.

    I'm going to try to move all that stuff over there so that the
    content on this page is focused on 'quote unquote' real content. Um,
    Facebook doesn't necessarily penalize you for posting a lot, but it's
    just a math thing, right? If I'm putting up 100 or 120 messages a
    day, then a smaller percentage of those messages are going to show up
    on people's timelines because if they didn't, you would have nothing
    but John Andrea on your timeline, and Facebook doesn't want that
    unless I pay them, which I can't afford to do. Um, so get in the
    group. Um, get that

    taken care of. It's linked. There's actually, I think I pinned the
    post

    on the page. Uh, so if you look at the John Henry US page here on
    Facebook, right at the top of the feed there, you should see a post
    that has a link to the new group. Just go there, hit the join button.
    I'll get you, I'll get you, you know, authorized in and there as
    quickly as I can. Um, and just, you know, pay attention. Do what you
    can. I know it's not the rousing Norman race speech everybody came
    for,

    but this is the reality that we're in, and I'm not, I'm not a song
    and dance. I'm not going to put on some bullshit act. Uh, pretend to
    be something I'm not. Hey, everybody. Here's a big smile for you.
    Let's all be popular and let's talk about keywords and let's appeal
    to your biases so that you think I'm special and cool, and then you
    really like

    being, hey, did I mention that I'm, you know, native and black and
    blah

    blah blah. No, I'm just not going to do that. Going to do that. The
    work that I do is worthy of your support. There is, I don't have any
    question about that. It's just a matter of getting through this
    induced

    sort of, you know, I call it the crass ceiling where where we as, you
    know, American consumers have been trained for years to assume that
    anybody who's poor is poor because they are, you know, some kind of
    loser and jerk and they deserve it. Uh, and anybody who's rich
    deserves

    to have more money. Let's break that thinking and let's start here,
    okay? Please, thank you. Have a good night.

    Crunch time!! John Henry Dejong has over two months notice. Two months
    of a full time minimum wage job is at least $300/week, and he has nine
    weeks.

    John is on record as refusing to do "scut work" too. A pity there's not
    a job offering for Professional Meme Poster or Clickbait Detector.

    But on the bright side, it's a good idea to get John away from bad
    influences who work every day despite terminal diseases. It would keep
    John from doing ethical things like beg for money to fund his personal
    crusade against the many evils of Alex Cain and his billions of
    sockpuppets.

    $2700 could get him into a flop house for sure!!! Nah- crazy
    thoughts. For sure McDs is taking time to search potential employees
    for radical left behavior. No way are they going to have a guy who can
    topple capitalism on that fryalator- no sir-ee bob. On the one hand he complains no one is watching/ seeing/ sharing, on the other he is so
    big time super dangerous that everyone is out to get him. So no. No
    job is possible. Surely the best course of action is pushing the exact
    same thing that has not worked for over 20 years because THIS time-
    THIS time it's gonna happen.

    Just as sure a bet as John never wearing out his welcome.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mark Raslin (w/Ancient Psychoses)@21:1/5 to Grudge Rounds on Tue Sep 19 20:29:02 2023
    Grudge Rounds <richmennorthofmidvale@times.up> wrote in news:ueb77q$2fpor$1@novabbs.org:

    Taro Tsujimoto wrote:

    On Sep 18, 2023, rec.sport.pro-wrestling wrote
    (in article<473f8333-04a6-444d-a73e-26ea9d829fb9n@googlegroups.com>):

    There have been unfortunate new developments.

    https://www.facebook.com/events/974690483820390/?ref=rspw
    <snip baseless accusation and unnecessary abuse>

    Transcript:

    Alright, kids. How are you? I don't know what you're looking at. I
    don't know what we're looking at. But here I am. Uh, we are trying to
    make this live stream happen and I hope let me do something obvious so
    I can see what my lag is like here. Make sure I'm going to watch my
    stream. Okay. Looks like I'm good. Uh, so here I am. Uh, need to chat
    with you all about some ongoing situations. Let me wind things back up
    to sort of the beginning back in late February, the March of this year.
    Uh, I had been living in this horrible bedbug filled dope-filled mess
    of a trap house and things had got to the point where I just couldn't
    work.

    Seems like he's put out less content since moving out.

    The landlord was uncooperative.

    IIRC, the landlord identified John as the problem since he was the only
    one complaining and the only one who couldn't manage to get along with
    the others, and offered to waive thousands of dollars in owed rent if
    he would just leave. That's the most cooperative landlord I've ever
    heard of. This superhero of a landlord not only made peace in the house
    with a single move, but satisfied all parties involved at his own
    expense.

    I had roommates that were
    seriously problematic and damaging property and everything else. So, I
    was on the streets for a minute, actually in a hotel.

    IIRC, he admitted to being unsociable because the sex offender living
    there (the one on the registry) rubbed him the wrong way.

    Thanks to the
    generous assistance of friends. While I was staying at the hotel, I was actually on my last day and in the lobby trying to figure out how I was
    going to pay for one more night and I ran into a friend of mine that I
    had known back in high school. Haven't seen her for about 35 years. We
    got to talking. As it turned out, she is dealing with stage 4 terminal
    cancer in her lungs and her brain. She needed somebody to stay with
    her. She had a spare room and she needed somebody here to help out and basically just to be here in case she had some kind of medical problem
    and couldn't reach the phone, right? So, I've been here and I've been
    able to take advantage of a lot of time.

    Neat how this is framed as her needing him.

    I absolutely do not want to
    get into like running my roommate down. It's not what this is about.
    But the situation as it stands right now is she's been on disability
    and on disability, you have a grace period. I think it's nine months
    where you're still allowed to earn money and they don't penalize you or threaten to take you off the disability. Unfortunately, that grace
    period is about to end. With that grace period ending, she's still
    reasonably healthy and has been working and so on and so forth but
    that's going to have to end because if she continues working then her disability gets cut off and that's her health care and her medical
    insurance. Her employer's insurance doesn't cover chemotherapy,
    etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. So it's this big, snarled, tangled mess
    of who knows how you're going to deal with this, right? So she came to
    me today and you know, the deadline of December 1st has been impending
    for a time for 9 months. We knew this was coming. Excuse me. But what
    we didn't know was what was going to have to be done to deal with it.
    Now the problem is if I'm living here all of my income also counts
    against her disability.

    What income?!

    I can't get any of that stuff. I don't qualify
    for any of that stuff.

    IIRC, he admitted to not even bothering to apply for a lot of help
    because it wasn't possible to do it online, and he didn't want to leave
    his
    belongings at the mercy of his housemates when he went to the welfare
    office.

    What little I could maybe qualify for has years
    long waiting lists including housing and everything else because I have
    my own problems, right?

    IIRC, he said the same thing last year. If he had put himself on the
    lists, he'd at least be higher up by now.

    It's been working out alright but
    unfortunately, it is not going to continue working alright.

    I have to leave. I have to be out of here December first because I
    can't be here. If I am here, that jeopardizes her access to medical
    care and her disability.

    This doesn't scan.

    Again, I don't want to get into the business
    of running my roommate down but my first response to that of course
    was, let's raise some money and get you a bank built up so we can make
    sure your property taxes are covered and everything else. We'll do a
    third party. That way, you're not handling the money and then it can be treated as a gift. It doesn't come against your disability and all that
    other stuff. I actually went so far. I started setting up a GoFundMe.
    Um and then I went and said, well, I made a picture to do this
    fundraiser and then it was, well, I didn't ask you for that. I didn't
    need the help. I don't want the help. That's not, I don't want any of
    that.

    Deja vu?

    Okay. Well, that means that there's nothing I can do and now I have to
    worry about helping myself. Um I there's there's literally my hands are
    tied. I don't want to approach the situation like this. Uh I don't I
    this is not what I want to be doing. Uh on any level. Uh I don't want
    to move out. I don't want to leave her here by herself to to deal with
    all this stuff. Um but it clearly the situation is I've got to go. Um
    and so that's that's where we're at right now. Uh and I'm a little
    freaked out and I'm very very scared and very very worried. Um I've
    been slowly you know trying to build this page up and and trying to to
    to reach out to to everybody. Uh and let you know. Like we've gotta
    we've gotta step on this and and some people have and I I seriously appreciate that. Um but it's also you know it's it's 20 bucks. It's you
    know, 50 bucks if I'm lucky. Um and and my monthly income is still, you
    know, on the order of three, $400 Um right now, I'm on Facebook's bonus program. Uh they added me to that a couple of months ago And I had that
    post go viral here about a week and a half ago. Uh before it was
    shamelessly stolen by the other ninety-eight percent. Um I ended up
    with about 850, 000 views on that. Like 130000 likes. Added a couple of hundred people to to my followers on on this page. Uh and the the money translation from that worked out to about well, I was at about 12 bucks
    when it started. So, it's been like sixty-two, $63 that came on to that
    and that's awesome. I mean, I'm not trying to not appreciate that and
    I'm not trying to not appreciate the people who have helped out, you
    know, some folks have been helping for years, right? There's there's,
    you know, I've got patrons who have been signed up for a couple of
    years at five bucks a piece. I've got a two patrons over there that are
    50 bucks a month and they've been on there one one friend of mine has
    been off and on for a couple of years. Uh another friend who's also,
    you know, a reader on this page has been there at fifty bucks since the beginning of this year and all of that helps and I appreciate. I would
    not be able to maintain even my Adobe subscription.

    ...

    Uh if if not for
    that but it's also not survivable. Um and now, I am in a really really difficult position. Uh in that, I don't know how I'm going to live. I
    don't know how I'm going to survive. I don't know where I'm going to
    go. I don't know how I'm going to get there. Uh the the externally
    sourced drama that originally resulted in me, you know, being having to
    move into that boarding house in the first place. Uh that was, you
    know, my my loving family and thanks to that. I have an eviction on my record.

    Appears to be true. "DEJONG V DEJONG" appears in the MiCOURT Case Search. What's the story here?

    So, I can't just jump out and go, oh, hey, here's, you know,
    couple hundred bucks. Uh, security deposit a month's rent, you're going
    to let me move in, right? Um, because I've got an eviction on my
    record. Um, and, and we all know that the housing situation out there
    is absolutely horrible. Anyway, landlords are charging, you know, two,
    three months worth of rent all kinds of ridiculous security deposits
    and fees and everything else. It's it's not easy for anybody out there
    right now to do to find a place to be, okay? Why I've done this video
    and and why I'm I'm doing this video all of the top of my head is to
    try to reach out and let you all know that the time is now. Um the this
    this entire situation has to change. I have to get stabilized.

    IIRC, some of his followers offered to put him up last year but he
    wanted to remain in Michigan for some reason.

    I have to grow my audience to the point of being able to sustain. I've
    been out here for, you know, the 15 years doing this stuff, and I've
    been just absolutely crushed by, you know, these giant grifting pages
    that are working against me. I got stalkers going on, and people going
    back channel and all kinds of rumor mongering. Just every single thing
    in the world that could be, you know, working against me has been for a
    long time. And I continue waking up every day and leaning in and
    saying, 'Hey, I'm going to come out here and I am going to keep doing
    the best I can to make the world a better place, and to make life
    easier for all of us.' And try to teach people how to make life easier
    for themselves and make better decisions about their leadership and all
    of that stuff because I'm not out here trying to cover my own ass. I'm
    trying to get everybody's ass covered. I'm trying to bring everybody
    up. And like I said, this has been going on for a decade plus now.
    That, you know, these big pages that you know the other ninety-eight
    and the being liberal and blah blah blah. All these big astroturf fake grassroots grifters who have no ideological commitment. Whatever, the
    only thing they're interested in is pandering the people's biases and
    making money. They're making money hand over fist, right? Millions and millions of dollars a year and here I still sit. Here I still sit. And
    so, I don't, again, it's, I don't want to be, you know, self-pity, and
    I don't want you to pity me, and I don't want you to feel sorry for me.
    I want you to understand that the work I'm doing is worthwhile and it
    is adding positive effects to the world and doing good and nudging the battleship of humanity a quarter degree at a time in a more sane
    direction with all of your help. And I have enjoyed the privilege of
    having an audience and having a platform. In spite of, you know, losing
    the Obama page last year, which is 200,000 people that Facebook cut off because one of the admins was sloppy about what they were posting. And
    just on and on.

    I have been beating my hand against the wall for a decade and a half.
    Hanging on by my fingernails as they pull out of my fingers
    desperately, desperately trying to stay alive and get ahead. And the
    only thing I've been able to do is just barely stay alive. And I love
    you all, but that has to change, and it has to change like today. And
    so what I'm asking her to do, I'm not going to be here all night. I'm
    going to try to get this. It's probably not going to be under fifteen,
    but I'm going to try to get it under 20 minutes. What I'm asking to do
    is please, please, please, please, everything I post, engage, like,
    share, comment, spread it around. Tell people, I post regular
    fundraising links to the PayPal and to the Linktree, into the Patreon,
    and my website where I've got the shopping cart set up. And I've been
    doing some other new stuff over there so people can make contributions
    that are directly targeted towards like paying for Adobe software and
    so on and so forth.

    I desperately, desperately need all of the help I can get. And I want
    to be absolutely clear. There's a lot of BS that goes on out there
    about me. A lot of people talk crap behind my back and whatever. And I
    don't pay attention to it much unless it gets right in my face and I
    have to. There's no ulterior motive here. I'm not strung out on drugs.

    IIRC, he just requested aid for "pain relief".

    I'm not out blowing money on gambling or throwing it away.

    Paying subscriptions for tools that aren't used for months at a time and
    even when they are don't result in reliable revenue is both gambling and throwing money away.

    None of that
    stuff. Right? There is no secret here. I am here to help me. I mean,
    it's legitimate and authentic and grassroots and independent as anybody possibly can be. I don't take money from the Democratic Party, the way
    that some of these big pages do. I don't take money from corporate
    sponsors the way that some of these big pages do. I don't want other
    people's advertisements on my Facebook page, etc., etc., etc.

    There seems like far greater potential for corruption in relying on
    1 person for housing and food and a tiny number of regular donators
    for sodas and Adobe, than there would be from sponsorship by an
    accountable source like a big political party. They're even transparent
    about the sponsorship, which is apparently cause for complaint.

    If, when any one of the handful of people supporting you threatens to
    withhold support, it upends your entire life, that's a huge
    vulnerability.

    I have gone out of my way and done incredible damage in my own life
    and to my own space, into my own survivability, and my health, and my
    mental health. For years and years and years to try to get ahead and
    get out into the world and say, hey, look, here is what we need to do.
    Here is the information. We need to be more politically literate. We
    need to stop being enslaved by our egos and insisting on rejecting any information that suggests to us that maybe we've been calm or been
    fooled or been led astray by bad ideas or getting sucked into things
    that appeal to our biases and egos rather than the truth, etcetera.

    I'm out here working, doing the very best that I can, right? I've been
    doing it forever. My name and my face are all over the internet for 15,
    20 years. Being this hard left, anti-capitalist, political activist,
    even if I wasn't over 50 years old, I would not be employable at this
    point.

    IIRC, he claimed to get a job (rather quickly) less than a year ago.
    Also, it's not like your average HR person is right-wing.

    People are not going to hire somebody when they are legally
    allowed in this country, which they aren't in some countries, to go
    digging through Google and digging through my Facebook history and
    everything else and deciding, oh, this guy is, he's a lefty. He's an anti-fascist. He's an anti-capitalist. He's going to come in and be disruptive and he's going to be a problem for us so we're not going to
    hire him. Now, on the face of it, of course, that's illegal as hell.
    You're not allowed to do that. It is a refuse to hire somebody over
    their political beliefs but long as they're not stupid enough to tell
    me to my face, that's why I'm not being hired. There's nothing I can do
    about it. And now I'm old.

    He won't apply for welfare because he knows he won't be approved, he
    won't apply for a job because he knows he won't be hired, he won't
    look for a room to rent because he knows he won't be accepted...

    I just don't know what to do anymore. I'm at my absolute wit's end. I
    just don't know what to do anymore. What I do know is that giving up is
    not an option. Not doing the work that I do here on this page and on
    the website and all the political stuff and all the media and
    information literacy stuff and trying to expose these frauds and
    grifters that are in various spaces, including it's not just the
    political space. I've been looking at all these Native American pages
    that are on Facebook and stuff over the last couple of days and it's
    like nine out of ten of them, all the administrators are based in like Vietnam or the Philippines. These are Native Americans. These are
    thieves, you know, and they're thieves. They use the imagery and the
    ideas and the symbolism of Native American culture to appeal to people
    who are attracted to that and suck money out of their pockets and sell
    cheap T-shirts and so on and so forth. And it's a problem in every
    sector on social media. There are so many scams out there and there are
    so many people that are just I don't know what happened to human
    conscience. I don't know how these people do this. I don't know how
    anybody can go out and just flat out lie to millions of people and
    steal money and energy and time and work from real activists who are
    trying to make the world better and put it in their pocket to the tune
    of millions of dollars a year and live with themselves. I don't know
    how people do that. And I'm not in that business. I've never been in
    that business, right?

    It would be so easy for me and would have been at any point in the last
    7 months, right? I could easily come out and say, hey, you know,
    cancer roommate, medical cause, need money, and I could spam that all
    over social media and the money would come rolling in but it would be dishonest. It would be fraud. It would be crooked. It would be
    everything that I stand against.

    I'm asking y'all and and hilariously, I'm looking right. There's like
    one person watching this stream right now.

    I got 5,000 people following my page, and there's one person watching
    the stream right now. And I just, you know, we gotta get over this idea
    that somebody honestly asking for support is they must be the fraud.
    But it's the person that's out there who's pretending to be Native
    American, who's pretending to be black,

    *cough*

    who's pretending to be gay,
    who's pretending to be a woman,

    Roadmap?

    who's pretending, pretending,
    pretending, lying through their teeth, and making stuff up. But it
    sounds good and it looks good on us socially when we appear to be
    supporting that. We gotta break that. We have to break that thinking.
    It's killing us. It is wiping us out. That is what's doing the damage
    to our democracy. This is why we don't have a real left-wing in this
    country. This is why so many of us are struggling. This is why the
    AMPTP and the automakers think that they can get away with continuing
    to hurt people and threaten people and punish people for demanding
    better working conditions and all the other stuff that's going on right
    now with these strikes. Because we put all of our energy behind these
    frauds and these grifters. And in the meantime, people like me are out
    here trying to do it authentically because everybody wants authenticity except they want a highly polished and well-rehearsed and, you know,
    they want authentic bullshit. And that's going to stop. That's gotta
    stop. That is what's hurting us. And, you know, again, this, you know,
    my personal problems and the things that I'm going through are
    definitely a major problem. And if something does not happen in a huge
    way in the next month or so, I really just don't know what I'm going to
    do or where I'm going to be. But right now, as things stand, if
    something doesn't happen very soon, I'm going to be on the streets on December 1st, and you're not going to hear from me anymore. And I would rather not see that happen for my own selfish reasons, obviously, but
    also because I've still got a lot of work to do and a lot of things to
    say and a lot of information and energy to put out there into the
    world. And that includes, you know, supporting.

    I've recently become. There's a really great page out there called Vox
    Plus Guest that is run by the members of a band called Vox Plus Sticks.
    Um, and they are just incredible energy for mutual aid and sharing and everything else. So, the last week or so, I've had a lot of like
    independent musicians and so on and so forth which I love because I've
    been one for 45 years and I want to do everything I can to support
    them. I'm doing everything. Everything I know how to do. I am one
    person. And I am doing the work of 10 people every single day. And I
    want to be clear. I know I'm not sane. Okay? I know I'm not normal. I
    know I can sometimes come off abrasive or what have you. I get that. I understand that. That's the world we live in. And that's what needs to change. That's the evolution that needs to happen is we need to start breaking this thinking. We need to start breaking our training and this commercialism and all the things that we've been, you know, taught
    through advertising and marketing tricks in terms of only believing
    people that are already rich and then they need more money. Like, that doesn't make any sense, right? So, I'm already again 2 minutes past
    where I wanted to be. I'm going to go ahead and cut it off here pretty
    quick but I want to just leave you with a thought. Please, man. Please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, engage with my work on my page, share, spread it around. Don't be
    afraid to say to people, hey, this guy deserves your support. This guy deserves your help. He deserves your attention, right? If I can blow up
    on Facebook and stay blown up, the income from that will cover me,
    right? I can make up to $30,000 a month from Facebook. Right now, you
    know, like I said, I got seventy bucks. Need to need to move that up
    and I got a couple of folks that have been following me. Uh especially
    Tony Nelson. I definitely wanted to give a shout out too because he's
    been a friend of mine for a long long time back to the wrestling group
    in the nineties. Um and he's just been sharing everything. And and
    liking everything and leaving comments on tons of stuff. And that is
    the energy I need from like all 5000 of you. I really really need that.
    I need you to make that extra little effort for me. A couple of times a
    day. Spend 5 minutes. Dropped by the page. Like the stuff that I've
    posted. Share the video is share the articles, all that other stuff.
    Get it out there. Bring people in and let's build this up because I I
    need, you know, I I don't want to use the word miracle because I'm an atheist. I don't believe in miracles. But what I need is a break for
    one goddamn time in my life. I just need a real break.

    11 months of free rent (15+ counting the waived rent from the other
    place)
    11 months of free food
    11 months of free electricity

    That's not a break?

    I've been out
    here doing the work and I've been doing it. You know, it's not that I
    don't have a self-interest, right? I don't want to sit here. Oh, I
    sacrifice myself for you. It's not all nobility if we improve the
    world. My life gets better if we live in a world where we have robust

    (fully online)

    social welfare programs and we've adjusted our thinking to get away
    from some of this in-grouping and the capital just the aspiration and
    all that other stuff that improves my life absolutely that makes things better and helps end the situations that create where I am right now
    and so I'm just please man I'm just asking you you have to send money.
    I obviously, if you've got something you can, by all means, please do. There's links on the little lower third graphic there. It's got my
    Patreon link in it. I think my PayPal that's circulating here and I'll
    go ahead. I think the comments on the live stream have links. Uh let me
    let me pop over in my little control console here and I can get the
    graphic on screen for the contribution links as well. Um let me go
    ahead and get my picture and picture up there on the top as well so you
    can see that, okay? And then we'll and letting not restart the
    introduction to this show. Uh there we go. Those are the big three
    right there. The PayPal address. Uh the support page at my website and
    then that cash tag which works for Cash App and Cash.me and Chime.

    Um, anything you can do, whether it's a dollar or $5 or 50 or 500 or
    5,000, anything up to the legal limit of nine thousand nine 999 dollars
    and ninety-nine cents, I need it.

    "Legal limit"? To evade IRS reporting requirements?

    I need it because even when I get
    this housing situation and stabilization problem solved, I'm still
    working on a ten-year-old computer. I'm still using this horrible,
    cheap, 1080P webcam that I've had for 10 years.

    He needs a 4K webcam for talking head videos?

    I don't have the right
    microphone. If I touch this thing the wrong way, the microphone
    connection goes out because it's worn and it's cheap and it needs to be replaced. I need your help. Please. If nothing else, if nothing else,
    please get active on the engagement. Like, share, comment, subscribe,
    tell other people. I am not asking you to go out there and tell all
    your friends and pester them like some sort of, you know, candy sale at school that your kid is doing, but it sure wouldn't hurt if 20 people
    out of the 5000 folks that are following this page, you know, if 20 or
    30 people every week just shared something with a little note that
    says, 'Hey, this guy's pretty good at what he does. You should pay
    attention to him. Maybe support him if you can.' You'd be amazed,
    right? That message that went viral last week, that thing sat for, you
    know, almost a week before anybody noticed it and then somewhere along
    the line, somebody picked it up and shared it in the right place and it
    went nuts, and then all of a sudden it starts to build on itself. Then,
    I see people like Lala Larkas and David Gerald and people with big,
    huge platforms are also sharing, and that again, it just reinforces and reinforces itself and it becomes sort of a positive feedback mechanism.
    If I can get to the point where I'm reaching, you know, 5,000 people a
    day on a regular basis even, then, all of a sudden we have some hope.
    But right now it's kind of, man, I just don't know. I just don't know
    what's going to happen. And you know, we're not even talking about, you
    know, mental illness issues and majority, all that other stuff that I
    deal with anyway. It's not, that's not part of the conversation right
    now. This is just a human being who's out here trying to do the right
    thing as best they can. It has been for a long time and unfortunately,
    what I do works against the business model of nearly everybody else
    that is doing this kind of thing including occupied Democrats,
    including the other ninety-eight. Any big page that you can think of,
    you know, the Jojo from Jersey and the Brooklyn dad and the really
    American. All of these pages are backed by major political party money
    and they're crushing me and they're crushing people like me. And the
    only way that's going to stop is if we, the people, you and I, we, the
    people engage and work together and push so that people like me have
    the floor and people like them, the grifters, the fakes, the frauds,
    the astroturfers, lose their floor. They don't deserve to have that
    platform. So, and I think that's where I'm going to cut it off. So,
    thank you very much. I appreciate everybody watching. If you can help,
    please do. You can send stars through Facebook if you want to. All that
    stuff that's on my website and then the PayPal, the Patreon, I just set
    up a CoFi coffee, however you pronounce it, account, and all of those
    links are actually in the about section of this Facebook page, and you
    can check all that stuff out. And in the meantime, thanks a whole lot.
    I love you. Much power to all the people. I will continue, as I have
    most of my life, to be in every possible way, a champion of the
    oppressed and the underdogs until I cannot raise my head anymore. That
    is what I do and that is what I'm going to do until I die. I would just rather that didn't happen soon. So, if you can do what you can, please
    do. And that's it for me. Thank you very much. Have a great night, and
    I'll see you soon. Keep an eye on the page. By the way, oh hey, I
    almost forgot too. I started a group that's attached to the Facebook
    page now. So, make sure you're joining that and taking part in that so
    that I can that is I'm going to try to move like alittle short kind of
    almost personal status messages and things like that.

    I'm going to try to move all that stuff over there so that the content
    on this page is focused on 'quote unquote' real content. Um, Facebook
    doesn't necessarily penalize you for posting a lot, but it's just a
    math thing, right? If I'm putting up 100 or 120 messages a day, then a smaller percentage of those messages are going to show up on people's timelines because if they didn't, you would have nothing but John
    Andrea on your timeline, and Facebook doesn't want that unless I pay
    them, which I can't afford to do. Um, so get in the group. Um, get that
    taken care of. It's linked. There's actually, I think I pinned the post
    on the page. Uh, so if you look at the John Henry US page here on
    Facebook, right at the top of the feed there, you should see a post
    that has a link to the new group. Just go there, hit the join button.
    I'll get you, I'll get you, you know, authorized in and there as
    quickly as I can.

    Moving discussion to the forum at his site failed, so this is phase 2. Reminiscent of the repeated attempts to create tightly-controlled RSPW offshoots documented in Grifterpedia.

    Um, and just, you know, pay attention. Do what you
    can. I know it's not the rousing Norman race speech everybody came for,
    but this is the reality that we're in, and I'm not, I'm not a song and
    dance. I'm not going to put on some bullshit act. Uh, pretend to be
    something I'm not. Hey, everybody. Here's a big smile for you. Let's
    all be popular and let's talk about keywords and let's appeal to your
    biases so that you think I'm special and cool, and then you really like being, hey, did I mention that I'm, you know, native and black

    *cough*

    and blah
    blah blah. No, I'm just not going to do that. Going to do that. The
    work that I do is worthy of your support. There is, I don't have any
    question about that. It's just a matter of getting through this induced
    sort of, you know, I call it the crass ceiling where where we as, you
    know, American consumers have been trained for years to assume that
    anybody who's poor is poor because they are, you know, some kind of
    loser and jerk and they deserve it. Uh, and anybody who's rich deserves
    to have more money. Let's break that thinking and let's start here,
    okay? Please, thank you. Have a good night.

    Another great episode.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Taro Tsujimoto@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 19 18:14:18 2023
    On Sep 19, 2023, Mark Raslin (w/Ancient Psychoses) wrote
    (in article <ued0ac$rp2e$1@paganini.bofh.team>):

    I have to leave. I have to be out of here December first because I
    can't be here. If I am here, that jeopardizes her access to medical
    care and her disability.

    This doesn't scan.

    It isn’t true.

    Again, I don't want to get into the business
    of running my roommate down but my first response to that of course
    was, let's raise some money and get you a bank built up so we can make
    sure your property taxes are covered and everything else. We'll do a
    third party. That way, you're not handling the money and then it can be treated as a gift. It doesn't come against your disability and all that other stuff. I actually went so far. I started setting up a GoFundMe.
    Um and then I went and said, well, I made a picture to do this
    fundraiser and then it was, well, I didn't ask you for that. I didn't
    need the help. I don't want the help. That's not, I don't want any of
    that.

    Deja vu?

    John claims she was contacted about him before he’d been at her home for
    even a week. She’s had questions about him almost from the beginning, and probably has a lot of reasons not to trust him.

    Uh if if not for
    that but it's also not survivable. Um and now, I am in a really really difficult position. Uh in that, I don't know how I'm going to live. I
    don't know how I'm going to survive. I don't know where I'm going to
    go. I don't know how I'm going to get there. Uh the the externally
    sourced drama that originally resulted in me, you know, being having to move into that boarding house in the first place. Uh that was, you
    know, my my loving family and thanks to that. I have an eviction on my record.

    Appears to be true. "DEJONG V DEJONG" appears in the MiCOURT Case Search.

    The place in Utah also evicted him, so he has two.

    I desperately, desperately need all of the help I can get. And I want
    to be absolutely clear. There's a lot of BS that goes on out there
    about me. A lot of people talk crap behind my back and whatever. And I don't pay attention to it much unless it gets right in my face and I
    have to. There's no ulterior motive here. I'm not strung out on drugs.

    IIRC, he just requested aid for "pain relief".

    He wants weed.

    Um, anything you can do, whether it's a dollar or $5 or 50 or 500 or
    5,000, anything up to the legal limit of nine thousand nine 999 dollars
    and ninety-nine cents, I need it.

    "Legal limit"? To evade IRS reporting requirements?

    At $10,000, any movement of money is automatically reported to relevant
    federal authorities.

    I need it because even when I get
    this housing situation and stabilization problem solved, I'm still
    working on a ten-year-old computer. I'm still using this horrible,
    cheap, 1080P webcam that I've had for 10 years.

    He needs a 4K webcam for talking head videos?

    Soon, his list of “needs” will be two computers, a server, a 4K webcam,
    and a partridge in a pear tree.

    Uh, so if you look at the John Henry US page here on
    Facebook, right at the top of the feed there, you should see a post
    that has a link to the new group. Just go there, hit the join button.
    I'll get you, I'll get you, you know, authorized in and there as
    quickly as I can.

    Moving discussion to the forum at his site failed, so this is phase 2.

    The bulk of his remaining support can barely use Facebook.

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  • From Janithor@21:1/5 to Taro Tsujimoto on Tue Sep 19 15:33:08 2023
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/19/2023 3:14 PM, Taro Tsujimoto wrote:
    On Sep 19, 2023, Mark Raslin (w/Ancient Psychoses) wrote
    (in article <ued0ac$rp2e$1@paganini.bofh.team>):

    I have to leave. I have to be out of here December first because I
    can't be here. If I am here, that jeopardizes her access to medical
    care and her disability.

    This doesn't scan.

    It isn’t true.

    Again, I don't want to get into the business
    of running my roommate down but my first response to that of course
    was, let's raise some money and get you a bank built up so we can make
    sure your property taxes are covered and everything else. We'll do a
    third party. That way, you're not handling the money and then it can be
    treated as a gift. It doesn't come against your disability and all that
    other stuff. I actually went so far. I started setting up a GoFundMe.
    Um and then I went and said, well, I made a picture to do this
    fundraiser and then it was, well, I didn't ask you for that. I didn't
    need the help. I don't want the help. That's not, I don't want any of
    that.

    Deja vu?

    John claims she was contacted about him before he’d been at her home for even a week. She’s had questions about him almost from the beginning, and probably has a lot of reasons not to trust him.

    Uh if if not for
    that but it's also not survivable. Um and now, I am in a really really
    difficult position. Uh in that, I don't know how I'm going to live. I
    don't know how I'm going to survive. I don't know where I'm going to
    go. I don't know how I'm going to get there. Uh the the externally
    sourced drama that originally resulted in me, you know, being having to
    move into that boarding house in the first place. Uh that was, you
    know, my my loving family and thanks to that. I have an eviction on my
    record.

    Appears to be true. "DEJONG V DEJONG" appears in the MiCOURT Case Search.

    The place in Utah also evicted him, so he has two.

    I desperately, desperately need all of the help I can get. And I want
    to be absolutely clear. There's a lot of BS that goes on out there
    about me. A lot of people talk crap behind my back and whatever. And I
    don't pay attention to it much unless it gets right in my face and I
    have to. There's no ulterior motive here. I'm not strung out on drugs.

    IIRC, he just requested aid for "pain relief".

    He wants weed.

    Um, anything you can do, whether it's a dollar or $5 or 50 or 500 or
    5,000, anything up to the legal limit of nine thousand nine 999 dollars
    and ninety-nine cents, I need it.

    "Legal limit"? To evade IRS reporting requirements?

    At $10,000, any movement of money is automatically reported to relevant federal authorities.

    I need it because even when I get
    this housing situation and stabilization problem solved, I'm still
    working on a ten-year-old computer. I'm still using this horrible,
    cheap, 1080P webcam that I've had for 10 years.

    He needs a 4K webcam for talking head videos?

    Soon, his list of “needs” will be two computers, a server, a 4K webcam, and a partridge in a pear tree.

    Uh, so if you look at the John Henry US page here on
    Facebook, right at the top of the feed there, you should see a post
    that has a link to the new group. Just go there, hit the join button.
    I'll get you, I'll get you, you know, authorized in and there as
    quickly as I can.

    Moving discussion to the forum at his site failed, so this is phase 2.

    The bulk of his remaining support can barely use Facebook.

    And still he blocked me. :-/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From %@21:1/5 to Janithor on Tue Sep 19 16:34:02 2023
    Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/19/2023 3:14 PM, Taro Tsujimoto wrote:
    On Sep 19, 2023, Mark Raslin (w/Ancient Psychoses) wrote
    (in article <ued0ac$rp2e$1@paganini.bofh.team>):

    I have to leave. I have to be out of here December first because I
    can't be here. If I am here, that jeopardizes her access to medical
    care and her disability.

    This doesn't scan.

    It isn’t true.

    Again, I don't want to get into the business
    of running my roommate down but my first response to that of course
    was, let's raise some money and get you a bank built up so we can make >>>> sure your property taxes are covered and everything else. We'll do a
    third party. That way, you're not handling the money and then it can be >>>> treated as a gift. It doesn't come against your disability and all that >>>> other stuff. I actually went so far. I started setting up a GoFundMe.
    Um and then I went and said, well, I made a picture to do this
    fundraiser and then it was, well, I didn't ask you for that. I didn't
    need the help. I don't want the help. That's not, I don't want any of
    that.

    Deja vu?

    John claims she was contacted about him before he’d been at her home for >> even a week. She’s had questions about him almost from the beginning, and >> probably has a lot of reasons not to trust him.

    Uh if if not for
    that but it's also not survivable. Um and now, I am in a really really >>>> difficult position. Uh in that, I don't know how I'm going to live. I
    don't know how I'm going to survive. I don't know where I'm going to
    go. I don't know how I'm going to get there. Uh the the externally
    sourced drama that originally resulted in me, you know, being having to >>>> move into that boarding house in the first place. Uh that was, you
    know, my my loving family and thanks to that. I have an eviction on my >>>> record.

    Appears to be true. "DEJONG V DEJONG" appears in the MiCOURT Case
    Search.

    The place in Utah also evicted him, so he has two.

    I desperately, desperately need all of the help I can get. And I want
    to be absolutely clear. There's a lot of BS that goes on out there
    about me. A lot of people talk crap behind my back and whatever. And I >>>> don't pay attention to it much unless it gets right in my face and I
    have to. There's no ulterior motive here. I'm not strung out on drugs.

    IIRC, he just requested aid for "pain relief".

    He wants weed.

    Um, anything you can do, whether it's a dollar or $5 or 50 or 500 or
    5,000, anything up to the legal limit of nine thousand nine 999 dollars >>>> and ninety-nine cents, I need it.

    "Legal limit"? To evade IRS reporting requirements?

    At $10,000, any movement of money is automatically reported to relevant
    federal authorities.

    I need it because even when I get
    this housing situation and stabilization problem solved, I'm still
    working on a ten-year-old computer. I'm still using this horrible,
    cheap, 1080P webcam that I've had for 10 years.

    He needs a 4K webcam for talking head videos?

    Soon, his list of “needs” will be two computers, a server, a 4K webcam, >> and a partridge in a pear tree.

    Uh, so if you look at the John Henry US page here on
    Facebook, right at the top of the feed there, you should see a post
    that has a link to the new group. Just go there, hit the join button.
    I'll get you, I'll get you, you know, authorized in and there as
    quickly as I can.

    Moving discussion to the forum at his site failed, so this is phase 2.

    The bulk of his remaining support can barely use Facebook.

    And still he blocked me.  :-/

    maybe if you apologse

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Family Guy@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 19 17:58:08 2023
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 8:00:14 PM UTC-4, rec.sport.pro-wrestling wrote:
    There have been unfortunate new developments.

    https://www.facebook.com/events/974690483820390/?ref=rspw

    Is he homeless and vlogging from a public wi-fi yet?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Janithor@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 19 17:30:25 2023
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/19/2023 4:34 PM, % wrote:
    Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/19/2023 3:14 PM, Taro Tsujimoto wrote:
    On Sep 19, 2023, Mark Raslin (w/Ancient Psychoses) wrote
    (in article <ued0ac$rp2e$1@paganini.bofh.team>):

    I have to leave. I have to be out of here December first because I
    can't be here. If I am here, that jeopardizes her access to medical
    care and her disability.

    This doesn't scan.

    It isn’t true.

    Again, I don't want to get into the business
    of running my roommate down but my first response to that of course
    was, let's raise some money and get you a bank built up so we can make >>>>> sure your property taxes are covered and everything else. We'll do a >>>>> third party. That way, you're not handling the money and then it
    can be
    treated as a gift. It doesn't come against your disability and all
    that
    other stuff. I actually went so far. I started setting up a GoFundMe. >>>>> Um and then I went and said, well, I made a picture to do this
    fundraiser and then it was, well, I didn't ask you for that. I didn't >>>>> need the help. I don't want the help. That's not, I don't want any of >>>>> that.

    Deja vu?

    John claims she was contacted about him before he’d been at her home for >>> even a week. She’s had questions about him almost from the beginning,
    and
    probably has a lot of reasons not to trust him.

    Uh if if not for
    that but it's also not survivable. Um and now, I am in a really really >>>>> difficult position. Uh in that, I don't know how I'm going to live. I >>>>> don't know how I'm going to survive. I don't know where I'm going to >>>>> go. I don't know how I'm going to get there. Uh the the externally
    sourced drama that originally resulted in me, you know, being
    having to
    move into that boarding house in the first place. Uh that was, you
    know, my my loving family and thanks to that. I have an eviction on my >>>>> record.

    Appears to be true. "DEJONG V DEJONG" appears in the MiCOURT Case
    Search.

    The place in Utah also evicted him, so he has two.

    I desperately, desperately need all of the help I can get. And I want >>>>> to be absolutely clear. There's a lot of BS that goes on out there
    about me. A lot of people talk crap behind my back and whatever. And I >>>>> don't pay attention to it much unless it gets right in my face and I >>>>> have to. There's no ulterior motive here. I'm not strung out on drugs. >>>>
    IIRC, he just requested aid for "pain relief".

    He wants weed.

    Um, anything you can do, whether it's a dollar or $5 or 50 or 500 or >>>>> 5,000, anything up to the legal limit of nine thousand nine 999
    dollars
    and ninety-nine cents, I need it.

    "Legal limit"? To evade IRS reporting requirements?

    At $10,000, any movement of money is automatically reported to relevant
    federal authorities.

    I need it because even when I get
    this housing situation and stabilization problem solved, I'm still
    working on a ten-year-old computer. I'm still using this horrible,
    cheap, 1080P webcam that I've had for 10 years.

    He needs a 4K webcam for talking head videos?

    Soon, his list of “needs” will be two computers, a server, a 4K webcam, >>> and a partridge in a pear tree.

    Uh, so if you look at the John Henry US page here on
    Facebook, right at the top of the feed there, you should see a post
    that has a link to the new group. Just go there, hit the join button. >>>>> I'll get you, I'll get you, you know, authorized in and there as
    quickly as I can.

    Moving discussion to the forum at his site failed, so this is phase 2.

    The bulk of his remaining support can barely use Facebook.

    And still he blocked me.  :-/

    maybe if you apologse

    Maybe I could hire Emmett to do apologize for me, he's good at it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From %@21:1/5 to Janithor on Tue Sep 19 17:36:21 2023
    Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/19/2023 4:34 PM, % wrote:
    Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/19/2023 3:14 PM, Taro Tsujimoto wrote:
    On Sep 19, 2023, Mark Raslin (w/Ancient Psychoses) wrote
    (in article <ued0ac$rp2e$1@paganini.bofh.team>):

    I have to leave. I have to be out of here December first because I >>>>>> can't be here. If I am here, that jeopardizes her access to medical >>>>>> care and her disability.

    This doesn't scan.

    It isn’t true.

    Again, I don't want to get into the business
    of running my roommate down but my first response to that of course >>>>>> was, let's raise some money and get you a bank built up so we can
    make
    sure your property taxes are covered and everything else. We'll do a >>>>>> third party. That way, you're not handling the money and then it
    can be
    treated as a gift. It doesn't come against your disability and all >>>>>> that
    other stuff. I actually went so far. I started setting up a GoFundMe. >>>>>> Um and then I went and said, well, I made a picture to do this
    fundraiser and then it was, well, I didn't ask you for that. I didn't >>>>>> need the help. I don't want the help. That's not, I don't want any of >>>>>> that.

    Deja vu?

    John claims she was contacted about him before he’d been at her home >>>> for
    even a week. She’s had questions about him almost from the
    beginning, and
    probably has a lot of reasons not to trust him.

    Uh if if not for
    that but it's also not survivable. Um and now, I am in a really
    really
    difficult position. Uh in that, I don't know how I'm going to live. I >>>>>> don't know how I'm going to survive. I don't know where I'm going to >>>>>> go. I don't know how I'm going to get there. Uh the the externally >>>>>> sourced drama that originally resulted in me, you know, being
    having to
    move into that boarding house in the first place. Uh that was, you >>>>>> know, my my loving family and thanks to that. I have an eviction
    on my
    record.

    Appears to be true. "DEJONG V DEJONG" appears in the MiCOURT Case
    Search.

    The place in Utah also evicted him, so he has two.

    I desperately, desperately need all of the help I can get. And I want >>>>>> to be absolutely clear. There's a lot of BS that goes on out there >>>>>> about me. A lot of people talk crap behind my back and whatever.
    And I
    don't pay attention to it much unless it gets right in my face and I >>>>>> have to. There's no ulterior motive here. I'm not strung out on
    drugs.

    IIRC, he just requested aid for "pain relief".

    He wants weed.

    Um, anything you can do, whether it's a dollar or $5 or 50 or 500 or >>>>>> 5,000, anything up to the legal limit of nine thousand nine 999
    dollars
    and ninety-nine cents, I need it.

    "Legal limit"? To evade IRS reporting requirements?

    At $10,000, any movement of money is automatically reported to relevant >>>> federal authorities.

    I need it because even when I get
    this housing situation and stabilization problem solved, I'm still >>>>>> working on a ten-year-old computer. I'm still using this horrible, >>>>>> cheap, 1080P webcam that I've had for 10 years.

    He needs a 4K webcam for talking head videos?

    Soon, his list of “needs” will be two computers, a server, a 4K webcam,
    and a partridge in a pear tree.

    Uh, so if you look at the John Henry US page here on
    Facebook, right at the top of the feed there, you should see a post >>>>>> that has a link to the new group. Just go there, hit the join button. >>>>>> I'll get you, I'll get you, you know, authorized in and there as
    quickly as I can.

    Moving discussion to the forum at his site failed, so this is phase 2. >>>>
    The bulk of his remaining support can barely use Facebook.

    And still he blocked me.  :-/

    maybe if you apologse

    Maybe I could hire Emmett to do apologize for me, he's good at it.

    i thought you could have your own thing , why did janithor apologise

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Janithor@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 19 17:57:52 2023
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/19/2023 5:36 PM, % wrote:
    Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/19/2023 4:34 PM, % wrote:
    Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/19/2023 3:14 PM, Taro Tsujimoto wrote:
    On Sep 19, 2023, Mark Raslin (w/Ancient Psychoses) wrote
    (in article <ued0ac$rp2e$1@paganini.bofh.team>):

    I have to leave. I have to be out of here December first because I >>>>>>> can't be here. If I am here, that jeopardizes her access to medical >>>>>>> care and her disability.

    This doesn't scan.

    It isn’t true.

    Again, I don't want to get into the business
    of running my roommate down but my first response to that of course >>>>>>> was, let's raise some money and get you a bank built up so we can >>>>>>> make
    sure your property taxes are covered and everything else. We'll do a >>>>>>> third party. That way, you're not handling the money and then it >>>>>>> can be
    treated as a gift. It doesn't come against your disability and
    all that
    other stuff. I actually went so far. I started setting up a
    GoFundMe.
    Um and then I went and said, well, I made a picture to do this
    fundraiser and then it was, well, I didn't ask you for that. I
    didn't
    need the help. I don't want the help. That's not, I don't want
    any of
    that.

    Deja vu?

    John claims she was contacted about him before he’d been at her
    home for
    even a week. She’s had questions about him almost from the
    beginning, and
    probably has a lot of reasons not to trust him.

    Uh if if not for
    that but it's also not survivable. Um and now, I am in a really
    really
    difficult position. Uh in that, I don't know how I'm going to
    live. I
    don't know how I'm going to survive. I don't know where I'm going to >>>>>>> go. I don't know how I'm going to get there. Uh the the externally >>>>>>> sourced drama that originally resulted in me, you know, being
    having to
    move into that boarding house in the first place. Uh that was, you >>>>>>> know, my my loving family and thanks to that. I have an eviction >>>>>>> on my
    record.

    Appears to be true. "DEJONG V DEJONG" appears in the MiCOURT Case
    Search.

    The place in Utah also evicted him, so he has two.

    I desperately, desperately need all of the help I can get. And I >>>>>>> want
    to be absolutely clear. There's a lot of BS that goes on out there >>>>>>> about me. A lot of people talk crap behind my back and whatever. >>>>>>> And I
    don't pay attention to it much unless it gets right in my face and I >>>>>>> have to. There's no ulterior motive here. I'm not strung out on
    drugs.

    IIRC, he just requested aid for "pain relief".

    He wants weed.

    Um, anything you can do, whether it's a dollar or $5 or 50 or 500 or >>>>>>> 5,000, anything up to the legal limit of nine thousand nine 999
    dollars
    and ninety-nine cents, I need it.

    "Legal limit"? To evade IRS reporting requirements?

    At $10,000, any movement of money is automatically reported to
    relevant
    federal authorities.

    I need it because even when I get
    this housing situation and stabilization problem solved, I'm still >>>>>>> working on a ten-year-old computer. I'm still using this horrible, >>>>>>> cheap, 1080P webcam that I've had for 10 years.

    He needs a 4K webcam for talking head videos?

    Soon, his list of “needs” will be two computers, a server, a 4K
    webcam,
    and a partridge in a pear tree.

    Uh, so if you look at the John Henry US page here on
    Facebook, right at the top of the feed there, you should see a post >>>>>>> that has a link to the new group. Just go there, hit the join
    button.
    I'll get you, I'll get you, you know, authorized in and there as >>>>>>> quickly as I can.

    Moving discussion to the forum at his site failed, so this is
    phase 2.

    The bulk of his remaining support can barely use Facebook.

    And still he blocked me.  :-/

    maybe if you apologse

    Maybe I could hire Emmett to do apologize for me, he's good at it.

    i thought you could have your own thing , why did janithor apologise

    I don't want to rain on Emmett's parade.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Davey Zimmerman #274@21:1/5 to Family Guy on Wed Sep 20 01:09:38 2023
    Family Guy <madeforzyngagames@yahoo.com> wrote in news:c91c4574-4e24-4c69-a2de-675187b8ff39n@googlegroups.com:

    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 8:00:14 PM UTC-4,
    rec.sport.pro-wrestling wrote:
    There have been unfortunate new developments.

    https://www.facebook.com/events/974690483820390/?ref=rspw

    Is he homeless and vlogging from a public wi-fi yet?

    Poor John, the ATM shuts down again.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Taro Tsujimoto@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 19 21:28:50 2023
    On Sep 19, 2023, Davey Zimmerman #274 wrote
    (in article<XnsB084D742AFDCCReallyNotChad@135.181.20.170>):

    Family Guy<madeforzyngagames@yahoo.com> wrote in news:c91c4574-4e24-4c69-a2de-675187b8ff39n@googlegroups.com:

    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 8:00:14 PM UTC-4, rec.sport.pro-wrestling wrote:
    There have been unfortunate new developments.

    https://www.facebook.com/events/974690483820390/?ref=rspw

    Is he homeless and vlogging from a public wi-fi yet?

    Poor John, the ATM shuts down again.

    Not once has he mentioned actually earning a living. Just more begging and excuses for why he can’t work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Janithor@21:1/5 to Taro Tsujimoto on Tue Sep 19 18:34:06 2023
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/19/2023 6:28 PM, Taro Tsujimoto wrote:
    On Sep 19, 2023, Davey Zimmerman #274 wrote
    (in article<XnsB084D742AFDCCReallyNotChad@135.181.20.170>):

    Family Guy<madeforzyngagames@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:c91c4574-4e24-4c69-a2de-675187b8ff39n@googlegroups.com:

    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 8:00:14 PM UTC-4,
    rec.sport.pro-wrestling wrote:
    There have been unfortunate new developments.

    https://www.facebook.com/events/974690483820390/?ref=rspw

    Is he homeless and vlogging from a public wi-fi yet?

    Poor John, the ATM shuts down again.

    Not once has he mentioned actually earning a living. Just more begging and excuses for why he can’t work.

    How do you know he's not doing great things? How do you know he isn't
    changing the world? Have you contributed yet?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From %@21:1/5 to Janithor on Tue Sep 19 18:37:19 2023
    Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/19/2023 5:36 PM, % wrote:
    Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/19/2023 4:34 PM, % wrote:
    Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/19/2023 3:14 PM, Taro Tsujimoto wrote:
    On Sep 19, 2023, Mark Raslin (w/Ancient Psychoses) wrote
    (in article <ued0ac$rp2e$1@paganini.bofh.team>):

    I have to leave. I have to be out of here December first because I >>>>>>>> can't be here. If I am here, that jeopardizes her access to medical >>>>>>>> care and her disability.

    This doesn't scan.

    It isn’t true.

    Again, I don't want to get into the business
    of running my roommate down but my first response to that of course >>>>>>>> was, let's raise some money and get you a bank built up so we
    can make
    sure your property taxes are covered and everything else. We'll >>>>>>>> do a
    third party. That way, you're not handling the money and then it >>>>>>>> can be
    treated as a gift. It doesn't come against your disability and >>>>>>>> all that
    other stuff. I actually went so far. I started setting up a
    GoFundMe.
    Um and then I went and said, well, I made a picture to do this >>>>>>>> fundraiser and then it was, well, I didn't ask you for that. I >>>>>>>> didn't
    need the help. I don't want the help. That's not, I don't want >>>>>>>> any of
    that.

    Deja vu?

    John claims she was contacted about him before he’d been at her
    home for
    even a week. She’s had questions about him almost from the
    beginning, and
    probably has a lot of reasons not to trust him.

    Uh if if not for
    that but it's also not survivable. Um and now, I am in a really >>>>>>>> really
    difficult position. Uh in that, I don't know how I'm going to
    live. I
    don't know how I'm going to survive. I don't know where I'm
    going to
    go. I don't know how I'm going to get there. Uh the the externally >>>>>>>> sourced drama that originally resulted in me, you know, being
    having to
    move into that boarding house in the first place. Uh that was, you >>>>>>>> know, my my loving family and thanks to that. I have an eviction >>>>>>>> on my
    record.

    Appears to be true. "DEJONG V DEJONG" appears in the MiCOURT Case >>>>>>> Search.

    The place in Utah also evicted him, so he has two.

    I desperately, desperately need all of the help I can get. And I >>>>>>>> want
    to be absolutely clear. There's a lot of BS that goes on out there >>>>>>>> about me. A lot of people talk crap behind my back and whatever. >>>>>>>> And I
    don't pay attention to it much unless it gets right in my face >>>>>>>> and I
    have to. There's no ulterior motive here. I'm not strung out on >>>>>>>> drugs.

    IIRC, he just requested aid for "pain relief".

    He wants weed.

    Um, anything you can do, whether it's a dollar or $5 or 50 or
    500 or
    5,000, anything up to the legal limit of nine thousand nine 999 >>>>>>>> dollars
    and ninety-nine cents, I need it.

    "Legal limit"? To evade IRS reporting requirements?

    At $10,000, any movement of money is automatically reported to
    relevant
    federal authorities.

    I need it because even when I get
    this housing situation and stabilization problem solved, I'm still >>>>>>>> working on a ten-year-old computer. I'm still using this horrible, >>>>>>>> cheap, 1080P webcam that I've had for 10 years.

    He needs a 4K webcam for talking head videos?

    Soon, his list of “needs” will be two computers, a server, a 4K >>>>>> webcam,
    and a partridge in a pear tree.

    Uh, so if you look at the John Henry US page here on
    Facebook, right at the top of the feed there, you should see a post >>>>>>>> that has a link to the new group. Just go there, hit the join
    button.
    I'll get you, I'll get you, you know, authorized in and there as >>>>>>>> quickly as I can.

    Moving discussion to the forum at his site failed, so this is
    phase 2.

    The bulk of his remaining support can barely use Facebook.

    And still he blocked me.  :-/

    maybe if you apologse

    Maybe I could hire Emmett to do apologize for me, he's good at it.

    i thought you could have your own thing , why did janithor apologise

    I don't want to rain on Emmett's parade.


    good point did you see me try to drag him in more

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Davey Zimmerman #274@21:1/5 to Janithor on Wed Sep 20 02:05:37 2023
    Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in
    news:uedi6e$2jvdi$2@dont-email.me:

    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/19/2023 6:28 PM, Taro Tsujimoto wrote:
    On Sep 19, 2023, Davey Zimmerman #274 wrote
    (in article<XnsB084D742AFDCCReallyNotChad@135.181.20.170>):

    Family Guy<madeforzyngagames@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:c91c4574-4e24-4c69-a2de-675187b8ff39n@googlegroups.com:

    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 8:00:14 PM UTC-4,
    rec.sport.pro-wrestling wrote:
    There have been unfortunate new developments.

    https://www.facebook.com/events/974690483820390/?ref=rspw

    Is he homeless and vlogging from a public wi-fi yet?

    Poor John, the ATM shuts down again.

    Not once has he mentioned actually earning a living. Just more
    begging and excuses for why he can’t work.

    How do you know he's not doing great things? How do you know he isn't changing the world? Have you contributed yet?

    John has fully embraced The Power of Complete Failure. (TINPoCF) The
    only thing John has contributed to society is making wallets lighter. He
    can't even stock grocery shelves without getting fired.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From ]v[etaphoid@21:1/5 to mark@rube.con on Wed Sep 20 09:07:21 2023
    Mark Raslin (w/Ancient Psychoses) <mark@rube.con> wrote:
    Grudge Rounds <richmennorthofmidvale@times.up> wrote in news:ueb77q$2fpor$1@novabbs.org:

    Taro Tsujimoto wrote:

    On Sep 18, 2023, rec.sport.pro-wrestling wrote
    (in article<473f8333-04a6-444d-a73e-26ea9d829fb9n@googlegroups.com>):

    There have been unfortunate new developments.

    https://www.facebook.com/events/974690483820390/?ref=rspw
    <snip baseless accusation and unnecessary abuse>

    Transcript:

    Alright, kids. How are you? I don't know what you're looking at. I
    don't know what we're looking at. But here I am. Uh, we are trying to
    make this live stream happen and I hope let me do something obvious so
    I can see what my lag is like here. Make sure I'm going to watch my
    stream. Okay. Looks like I'm good. Uh, so here I am. Uh, need to chat
    with you all about some ongoing situations. Let me wind things back up
    to sort of the beginning back in late February, the March of this year.
    Uh, I had been living in this horrible bedbug filled dope-filled mess
    of a trap house and things had got to the point where I just couldn't
    work.

    Seems like he's put out less content since moving out.

    The landlord was uncooperative.

    IIRC, the landlord identified John as the problem since he was the only
    one complaining and the only one who couldn't manage to get along with
    the others, and offered to waive thousands of dollars in owed rent if
    he would just leave. That's the most cooperative landlord I've ever
    heard of. This superhero of a landlord not only made peace in the house
    with a single move, but satisfied all parties involved at his own
    expense.

    I had roommates that were
    seriously problematic and damaging property and everything else. So, I
    was on the streets for a minute, actually in a hotel.

    IIRC, he admitted to being unsociable because the sex offender living
    there (the one on the registry) rubbed him the wrong way.

    Thanks to the
    generous assistance of friends. While I was staying at the hotel, I was
    actually on my last day and in the lobby trying to figure out how I was
    going to pay for one more night and I ran into a friend of mine that I
    had known back in high school. Haven't seen her for about 35 years. We
    got to talking. As it turned out, she is dealing with stage 4 terminal
    cancer in her lungs and her brain. She needed somebody to stay with
    her. She had a spare room and she needed somebody here to help out and
    basically just to be here in case she had some kind of medical problem
    and couldn't reach the phone, right? So, I've been here and I've been
    able to take advantage of a lot of time.

    Neat how this is framed as her needing him.

    I absolutely do not want to
    get into like running my roommate down. It's not what this is about.
    But the situation as it stands right now is she's been on disability
    and on disability, you have a grace period. I think it's nine months
    where you're still allowed to earn money and they don't penalize you or
    threaten to take you off the disability. Unfortunately, that grace
    period is about to end. With that grace period ending, she's still
    reasonably healthy and has been working and so on and so forth but
    that's going to have to end because if she continues working then her
    disability gets cut off and that's her health care and her medical
    insurance. Her employer's insurance doesn't cover chemotherapy,
    etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. So it's this big, snarled, tangled mess
    of who knows how you're going to deal with this, right? So she came to
    me today and you know, the deadline of December 1st has been impending
    for a time for 9 months. We knew this was coming. Excuse me. But what
    we didn't know was what was going to have to be done to deal with it.
    Now the problem is if I'm living here all of my income also counts
    against her disability.

    What income?!

    I can't get any of that stuff. I don't qualify
    for any of that stuff.

    IIRC, he admitted to not even bothering to apply for a lot of help
    because it wasn't possible to do it online, and he didn't want to leave
    his
    belongings at the mercy of his housemates when he went to the welfare
    office.

    What little I could maybe qualify for has years
    long waiting lists including housing and everything else because I have
    my own problems, right?

    IIRC, he said the same thing last year. If he had put himself on the
    lists, he'd at least be higher up by now.

    It's been working out alright but
    unfortunately, it is not going to continue working alright.

    I have to leave. I have to be out of here December first because I
    can't be here. If I am here, that jeopardizes her access to medical
    care and her disability.

    This doesn't scan.

    Again, I don't want to get into the business
    of running my roommate down but my first response to that of course
    was, let's raise some money and get you a bank built up so we can make
    sure your property taxes are covered and everything else. We'll do a
    third party. That way, you're not handling the money and then it can be
    treated as a gift. It doesn't come against your disability and all that
    other stuff. I actually went so far. I started setting up a GoFundMe.
    Um and then I went and said, well, I made a picture to do this
    fundraiser and then it was, well, I didn't ask you for that. I didn't
    need the help. I don't want the help. That's not, I don't want any of
    that.

    Deja vu?

    Okay. Well, that means that there's nothing I can do and now I have to
    worry about helping myself. Um I there's there's literally my hands are
    tied. I don't want to approach the situation like this. Uh I don't I
    this is not what I want to be doing. Uh on any level. Uh I don't want
    to move out. I don't want to leave her here by herself to to deal with
    all this stuff. Um but it clearly the situation is I've got to go. Um
    and so that's that's where we're at right now. Uh and I'm a little
    freaked out and I'm very very scared and very very worried. Um I've
    been slowly you know trying to build this page up and and trying to to
    to reach out to to everybody. Uh and let you know. Like we've gotta
    we've gotta step on this and and some people have and I I seriously
    appreciate that. Um but it's also you know it's it's 20 bucks. It's you
    know, 50 bucks if I'm lucky. Um and and my monthly income is still, you
    know, on the order of three, $400 Um right now, I'm on Facebook's bonus
    program. Uh they added me to that a couple of months ago And I had that
    post go viral here about a week and a half ago. Uh before it was
    shamelessly stolen by the other ninety-eight percent. Um I ended up
    with about 850, 000 views on that. Like 130000 likes. Added a couple of
    hundred people to to my followers on on this page. Uh and the the money
    translation from that worked out to about well, I was at about 12 bucks
    when it started. So, it's been like sixty-two, $63 that came on to that
    and that's awesome. I mean, I'm not trying to not appreciate that and
    I'm not trying to not appreciate the people who have helped out, you
    know, some folks have been helping for years, right? There's there's,
    you know, I've got patrons who have been signed up for a couple of
    years at five bucks a piece. I've got a two patrons over there that are
    50 bucks a month and they've been on there one one friend of mine has
    been off and on for a couple of years. Uh another friend who's also,
    you know, a reader on this page has been there at fifty bucks since the
    beginning of this year and all of that helps and I appreciate. I would
    not be able to maintain even my Adobe subscription.

    ...

    Uh if if not for
    that but it's also not survivable. Um and now, I am in a really really
    difficult position. Uh in that, I don't know how I'm going to live. I
    don't know how I'm going to survive. I don't know where I'm going to
    go. I don't know how I'm going to get there. Uh the the externally
    sourced drama that originally resulted in me, you know, being having to
    move into that boarding house in the first place. Uh that was, you
    know, my my loving family and thanks to that. I have an eviction on my
    record.

    Appears to be true. "DEJONG V DEJONG" appears in the MiCOURT Case Search. What's the story here?

    So, I can't just jump out and go, oh, hey, here's, you know,
    couple hundred bucks. Uh, security deposit a month's rent, you're going
    to let me move in, right? Um, because I've got an eviction on my
    record. Um, and, and we all know that the housing situation out there
    is absolutely horrible. Anyway, landlords are charging, you know, two,
    three months worth of rent all kinds of ridiculous security deposits
    and fees and everything else. It's it's not easy for anybody out there
    right now to do to find a place to be, okay? Why I've done this video
    and and why I'm I'm doing this video all of the top of my head is to
    try to reach out and let you all know that the time is now. Um the this
    this entire situation has to change. I have to get stabilized.

    IIRC, some of his followers offered to put him up last year but he
    wanted to remain in Michigan for some reason.

    I have to grow my audience to the point of being able to sustain. I've
    been out here for, you know, the 15 years doing this stuff, and I've
    been just absolutely crushed by, you know, these giant grifting pages
    that are working against me. I got stalkers going on, and people going
    back channel and all kinds of rumor mongering. Just every single thing
    in the world that could be, you know, working against me has been for a
    long time. And I continue waking up every day and leaning in and
    saying, 'Hey, I'm going to come out here and I am going to keep doing
    the best I can to make the world a better place, and to make life
    easier for all of us.' And try to teach people how to make life easier
    for themselves and make better decisions about their leadership and all
    of that stuff because I'm not out here trying to cover my own ass. I'm
    trying to get everybody's ass covered. I'm trying to bring everybody
    up. And like I said, this has been going on for a decade plus now.
    That, you know, these big pages that you know the other ninety-eight
    and the being liberal and blah blah blah. All these big astroturf fake
    grassroots grifters who have no ideological commitment. Whatever, the
    only thing they're interested in is pandering the people's biases and
    making money. They're making money hand over fist, right? Millions and
    millions of dollars a year and here I still sit. Here I still sit. And
    so, I don't, again, it's, I don't want to be, you know, self-pity, and
    I don't want you to pity me, and I don't want you to feel sorry for me.
    I want you to understand that the work I'm doing is worthwhile and it
    is adding positive effects to the world and doing good and nudging the
    battleship of humanity a quarter degree at a time in a more sane
    direction with all of your help. And I have enjoyed the privilege of
    having an audience and having a platform. In spite of, you know, losing
    the Obama page last year, which is 200,000 people that Facebook cut off
    because one of the admins was sloppy about what they were posting. And
    just on and on.

    I have been beating my hand against the wall for a decade and a half.
    Hanging on by my fingernails as they pull out of my fingers
    desperately, desperately trying to stay alive and get ahead. And the
    only thing I've been able to do is just barely stay alive. And I love
    you all, but that has to change, and it has to change like today. And
    so what I'm asking her to do, I'm not going to be here all night. I'm
    going to try to get this. It's probably not going to be under fifteen,
    but I'm going to try to get it under 20 minutes. What I'm asking to do
    is please, please, please, please, everything I post, engage, like,
    share, comment, spread it around. Tell people, I post regular
    fundraising links to the PayPal and to the Linktree, into the Patreon,
    and my website where I've got the shopping cart set up. And I've been
    doing some other new stuff over there so people can make contributions
    that are directly targeted towards like paying for Adobe software and
    so on and so forth.

    I desperately, desperately need all of the help I can get. And I want
    to be absolutely clear. There's a lot of BS that goes on out there
    about me. A lot of people talk crap behind my back and whatever. And I
    don't pay attention to it much unless it gets right in my face and I
    have to. There's no ulterior motive here. I'm not strung out on drugs.

    IIRC, he just requested aid for "pain relief".

    I'm not out blowing money on gambling or throwing it away.

    Paying subscriptions for tools that aren't used for months at a time and
    even when they are don't result in reliable revenue is both gambling and throwing money away.

    None of that
    stuff. Right? There is no secret here. I am here to help me. I mean,
    it's legitimate and authentic and grassroots and independent as anybody
    possibly can be. I don't take money from the Democratic Party, the way
    that some of these big pages do. I don't take money from corporate
    sponsors the way that some of these big pages do. I don't want other
    people's advertisements on my Facebook page, etc., etc., etc.

    There seems like far greater potential for corruption in relying on
    1 person for housing and food and a tiny number of regular donators
    for sodas and Adobe, than there would be from sponsorship by an
    accountable source like a big political party. They're even transparent
    about the sponsorship, which is apparently cause for complaint.

    If, when any one of the handful of people supporting you threatens to withhold support, it upends your entire life, that's a huge
    vulnerability.

    I have gone out of my way and done incredible damage in my own life
    and to my own space, into my own survivability, and my health, and my
    mental health. For years and years and years to try to get ahead and
    get out into the world and say, hey, look, here is what we need to do.
    Here is the information. We need to be more politically literate. We
    need to stop being enslaved by our egos and insisting on rejecting any
    information that suggests to us that maybe we've been calm or been
    fooled or been led astray by bad ideas or getting sucked into things
    that appeal to our biases and egos rather than the truth, etcetera.

    I'm out here working, doing the very best that I can, right? I've been
    doing it forever. My name and my face are all over the internet for 15,
    20 years. Being this hard left, anti-capitalist, political activist,
    even if I wasn't over 50 years old, I would not be employable at this
    point.

    IIRC, he claimed to get a job (rather quickly) less than a year ago.
    Also, it's not like your average HR person is right-wing.

    People are not going to hire somebody when they are legally
    allowed in this country, which they aren't in some countries, to go
    digging through Google and digging through my Facebook history and
    everything else and deciding, oh, this guy is, he's a lefty. He's an
    anti-fascist. He's an anti-capitalist. He's going to come in and be
    disruptive and he's going to be a problem for us so we're not going to
    hire him. Now, on the face of it, of course, that's illegal as hell.
    You're not allowed to do that. It is a refuse to hire somebody over
    their political beliefs but long as they're not stupid enough to tell
    me to my face, that's why I'm not being hired. There's nothing I can do
    about it. And now I'm old.

    He won't apply for welfare because he knows he won't be approved, he
    won't apply for a job because he knows he won't be hired, he won't
    look for a room to rent because he knows he won't be accepted...

    I just don't know what to do anymore. I'm at my absolute wit's end. I
    just don't know what to do anymore. What I do know is that giving up is
    not an option. Not doing the work that I do here on this page and on
    the website and all the political stuff and all the media and
    information literacy stuff and trying to expose these frauds and
    grifters that are in various spaces, including it's not just the
    political space. I've been looking at all these Native American pages
    that are on Facebook and stuff over the last couple of days and it's
    like nine out of ten of them, all the administrators are based in like
    Vietnam or the Philippines. These are Native Americans. These are
    thieves, you know, and they're thieves. They use the imagery and the
    ideas and the symbolism of Native American culture to appeal to people
    who are attracted to that and suck money out of their pockets and sell
    cheap T-shirts and so on and so forth. And it's a problem in every
    sector on social media. There are so many scams out there and there are
    so many people that are just I don't know what happened to human
    conscience. I don't know how these people do this. I don't know how
    anybody can go out and just flat out lie to millions of people and
    steal money and energy and time and work from real activists who are
    trying to make the world better and put it in their pocket to the tune
    of millions of dollars a year and live with themselves. I don't know
    how people do that. And I'm not in that business. I've never been in
    that business, right?

    It would be so easy for me and would have been at any point in the last
    7 months, right? I could easily come out and say, hey, you know,
    cancer roommate, medical cause, need money, and I could spam that all
    over social media and the money would come rolling in but it would be
    dishonest. It would be fraud. It would be crooked. It would be
    everything that I stand against.

    I'm asking y'all and and hilariously, I'm looking right. There's like
    one person watching this stream right now.

    I got 5,000 people following my page, and there's one person watching
    the stream right now. And I just, you know, we gotta get over this idea
    that somebody honestly asking for support is they must be the fraud.
    But it's the person that's out there who's pretending to be Native
    American, who's pretending to be black,

    *cough*

    who's pretending to be gay,
    who's pretending to be a woman,

    Roadmap?

    who's pretending, pretending,
    pretending, lying through their teeth, and making stuff up. But it
    sounds good and it looks good on us socially when we appear to be
    supporting that. We gotta break that. We have to break that thinking.
    It's killing us. It is wiping us out. That is what's doing the damage
    to our democracy. This is why we don't have a real left-wing in this
    country. This is why so many of us are struggling. This is why the
    AMPTP and the automakers think that they can get away with continuing
    to hurt people and threaten people and punish people for demanding
    better working conditions and all the other stuff that's going on right
    now with these strikes. Because we put all of our energy behind these
    frauds and these grifters. And in the meantime, people like me are out
    here trying to do it authentically because everybody wants authenticity
    except they want a highly polished and well-rehearsed and, you know,
    they want authentic bullshit. And that's going to stop. That's gotta
    stop. That is what's hurting us. And, you know, again, this, you know,
    my personal problems and the things that I'm going through are
    definitely a major problem. And if something does not happen in a huge
    way in the next month or so, I really just don't know what I'm going to
    do or where I'm going to be. But right now, as things stand, if
    something doesn't happen very soon, I'm going to be on the streets on
    December 1st, and you're not going to hear from me anymore. And I would
    rather not see that happen for my own selfish reasons, obviously, but
    also because I've still got a lot of work to do and a lot of things to
    say and a lot of information and energy to put out there into the
    world. And that includes, you know, supporting.

    I've recently become. There's a really great page out there called Vox
    Plus Guest that is run by the members of a band called Vox Plus Sticks.
    Um, and they are just incredible energy for mutual aid and sharing and
    everything else. So, the last week or so, I've had a lot of like
    independent musicians and so on and so forth which I love because I've
    been one for 45 years and I want to do everything I can to support
    them. I'm doing everything. Everything I know how to do. I am one
    person. And I am doing the work of 10 people every single day. And I
    want to be clear. I know I'm not sane. Okay? I know I'm not normal. I
    know I can sometimes come off abrasive or what have you. I get that. I
    understand that. That's the world we live in. And that's what needs to
    change. That's the evolution that needs to happen is we need to start
    breaking this thinking. We need to start breaking our training and this
    commercialism and all the things that we've been, you know, taught
    through advertising and marketing tricks in terms of only believing
    people that are already rich and then they need more money. Like, that
    doesn't make any sense, right? So, I'm already again 2 minutes past
    where I wanted to be. I'm going to go ahead and cut it off here pretty
    quick but I want to just leave you with a thought. Please, man. Please,
    please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please,
    engage with my work on my page, share, spread it around. Don't be
    afraid to say to people, hey, this guy deserves your support. This guy
    deserves your help. He deserves your attention, right? If I can blow up
    on Facebook and stay blown up, the income from that will cover me,
    right? I can make up to $30,000 a month from Facebook. Right now, you
    know, like I said, I got seventy bucks. Need to need to move that up
    and I got a couple of folks that have been following me. Uh especially
    Tony Nelson. I definitely wanted to give a shout out too because he's
    been a friend of mine for a long long time back to the wrestling group
    in the nineties. Um and he's just been sharing everything. And and
    liking everything and leaving comments on tons of stuff. And that is
    the energy I need from like all 5000 of you. I really really need that.
    I need you to make that extra little effort for me. A couple of times a
    day. Spend 5 minutes. Dropped by the page. Like the stuff that I've
    posted. Share the video is share the articles, all that other stuff.
    Get it out there. Bring people in and let's build this up because I I
    need, you know, I I don't want to use the word miracle because I'm an
    atheist. I don't believe in miracles. But what I need is a break for
    one goddamn time in my life. I just need a real break.

    11 months of free rent (15+ counting the waived rent from the other
    place)
    11 months of free food
    11 months of free electricity

    That's not a break?

    No.

    It’s a thieving parasite…

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Kara Mac@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 20 07:07:26 2023
    On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 5:07:26 AM UTC-4, ]v[etaphoid wrote:
    Mark Raslin (w/Ancient Psychoses) <ma...@rube.con> wrote:
    Grudge Rounds <richmennor...@times.up> wrote in news:ueb77q$2fpor$1...@novabbs.org:

    Taro Tsujimoto wrote:

    On Sep 18, 2023, rec.sport.pro-wrestling wrote
    (in article<473f8333-04a6-444d...@googlegroups.com>):

    There have been unfortunate new developments.

    https://www.facebook.com/events/974690483820390/?ref=rspw
    <snip baseless accusation and unnecessary abuse>

    Transcript:

    Alright, kids. How are you? I don't know what you're looking at. I
    don't know what we're looking at. But here I am. Uh, we are trying to
    make this live stream happen and I hope let me do something obvious so
    I can see what my lag is like here. Make sure I'm going to watch my
    stream. Okay. Looks like I'm good. Uh, so here I am. Uh, need to chat
    with you all about some ongoing situations. Let me wind things back up
    to sort of the beginning back in late February, the March of this year. >> Uh, I had been living in this horrible bedbug filled dope-filled mess
    of a trap house and things had got to the point where I just couldn't
    work.

    Seems like he's put out less content since moving out.

    The landlord was uncooperative.

    IIRC, the landlord identified John as the problem since he was the only one complaining and the only one who couldn't manage to get along with
    the others, and offered to waive thousands of dollars in owed rent if
    he would just leave. That's the most cooperative landlord I've ever
    heard of. This superhero of a landlord not only made peace in the house with a single move, but satisfied all parties involved at his own
    expense.

    I had roommates that were
    seriously problematic and damaging property and everything else. So, I
    was on the streets for a minute, actually in a hotel.

    IIRC, he admitted to being unsociable because the sex offender living there (the one on the registry) rubbed him the wrong way.

    Thanks to the
    generous assistance of friends. While I was staying at the hotel, I was >> actually on my last day and in the lobby trying to figure out how I was >> going to pay for one more night and I ran into a friend of mine that I
    had known back in high school. Haven't seen her for about 35 years. We
    got to talking. As it turned out, she is dealing with stage 4 terminal
    cancer in her lungs and her brain. She needed somebody to stay with
    her. She had a spare room and she needed somebody here to help out and
    basically just to be here in case she had some kind of medical problem
    and couldn't reach the phone, right? So, I've been here and I've been
    able to take advantage of a lot of time.

    Neat how this is framed as her needing him.

    I absolutely do not want to
    get into like running my roommate down. It's not what this is about.
    But the situation as it stands right now is she's been on disability
    and on disability, you have a grace period. I think it's nine months
    where you're still allowed to earn money and they don't penalize you or >> threaten to take you off the disability. Unfortunately, that grace
    period is about to end. With that grace period ending, she's still
    reasonably healthy and has been working and so on and so forth but
    that's going to have to end because if she continues working then her
    disability gets cut off and that's her health care and her medical
    insurance. Her employer's insurance doesn't cover chemotherapy,
    etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. So it's this big, snarled, tangled mess
    of who knows how you're going to deal with this, right? So she came to
    me today and you know, the deadline of December 1st has been impending
    for a time for 9 months. We knew this was coming. Excuse me. But what
    we didn't know was what was going to have to be done to deal with it.
    Now the problem is if I'm living here all of my income also counts
    against her disability.

    What income?!

    I can't get any of that stuff. I don't qualify
    for any of that stuff.

    IIRC, he admitted to not even bothering to apply for a lot of help
    because it wasn't possible to do it online, and he didn't want to leave his
    belongings at the mercy of his housemates when he went to the welfare office.

    What little I could maybe qualify for has years
    long waiting lists including housing and everything else because I have >> my own problems, right?

    IIRC, he said the same thing last year. If he had put himself on the lists, he'd at least be higher up by now.

    It's been working out alright but
    unfortunately, it is not going to continue working alright.

    I have to leave. I have to be out of here December first because I
    can't be here. If I am here, that jeopardizes her access to medical
    care and her disability.

    This doesn't scan.

    Again, I don't want to get into the business
    of running my roommate down but my first response to that of course
    was, let's raise some money and get you a bank built up so we can make
    sure your property taxes are covered and everything else. We'll do a
    third party. That way, you're not handling the money and then it can be >> treated as a gift. It doesn't come against your disability and all that >> other stuff. I actually went so far. I started setting up a GoFundMe.
    Um and then I went and said, well, I made a picture to do this
    fundraiser and then it was, well, I didn't ask you for that. I didn't
    need the help. I don't want the help. That's not, I don't want any of
    that.

    Deja vu?

    Okay. Well, that means that there's nothing I can do and now I have to
    worry about helping myself. Um I there's there's literally my hands are >> tied. I don't want to approach the situation like this. Uh I don't I
    this is not what I want to be doing. Uh on any level. Uh I don't want
    to move out. I don't want to leave her here by herself to to deal with
    all this stuff. Um but it clearly the situation is I've got to go. Um
    and so that's that's where we're at right now. Uh and I'm a little
    freaked out and I'm very very scared and very very worried. Um I've
    been slowly you know trying to build this page up and and trying to to
    to reach out to to everybody. Uh and let you know. Like we've gotta
    we've gotta step on this and and some people have and I I seriously
    appreciate that. Um but it's also you know it's it's 20 bucks. It's you >> know, 50 bucks if I'm lucky. Um and and my monthly income is still, you >> know, on the order of three, $400 Um right now, I'm on Facebook's bonus >> program. Uh they added me to that a couple of months ago And I had that >> post go viral here about a week and a half ago. Uh before it was
    shamelessly stolen by the other ninety-eight percent. Um I ended up
    with about 850, 000 views on that. Like 130000 likes. Added a couple of >> hundred people to to my followers on on this page. Uh and the the money >> translation from that worked out to about well, I was at about 12 bucks >> when it started. So, it's been like sixty-two, $63 that came on to that >> and that's awesome. I mean, I'm not trying to not appreciate that and
    I'm not trying to not appreciate the people who have helped out, you
    know, some folks have been helping for years, right? There's there's,
    you know, I've got patrons who have been signed up for a couple of
    years at five bucks a piece. I've got a two patrons over there that are >> 50 bucks a month and they've been on there one one friend of mine has
    been off and on for a couple of years. Uh another friend who's also,
    you know, a reader on this page has been there at fifty bucks since the >> beginning of this year and all of that helps and I appreciate. I would
    not be able to maintain even my Adobe subscription.

    ...

    Uh if if not for
    that but it's also not survivable. Um and now, I am in a really really
    difficult position. Uh in that, I don't know how I'm going to live. I
    don't know how I'm going to survive. I don't know where I'm going to
    go. I don't know how I'm going to get there. Uh the the externally
    sourced drama that originally resulted in me, you know, being having to >> move into that boarding house in the first place. Uh that was, you
    know, my my loving family and thanks to that. I have an eviction on my
    record.

    Appears to be true. "DEJONG V DEJONG" appears in the MiCOURT Case Search. What's the story here?

    So, I can't just jump out and go, oh, hey, here's, you know,
    couple hundred bucks. Uh, security deposit a month's rent, you're going >> to let me move in, right? Um, because I've got an eviction on my
    record. Um, and, and we all know that the housing situation out there
    is absolutely horrible. Anyway, landlords are charging, you know, two,
    three months worth of rent all kinds of ridiculous security deposits
    and fees and everything else. It's it's not easy for anybody out there
    right now to do to find a place to be, okay? Why I've done this video
    and and why I'm I'm doing this video all of the top of my head is to
    try to reach out and let you all know that the time is now. Um the this >> this entire situation has to change. I have to get stabilized.

    IIRC, some of his followers offered to put him up last year but he
    wanted to remain in Michigan for some reason.

    I have to grow my audience to the point of being able to sustain. I've
    been out here for, you know, the 15 years doing this stuff, and I've
    been just absolutely crushed by, you know, these giant grifting pages
    that are working against me. I got stalkers going on, and people going
    back channel and all kinds of rumor mongering. Just every single thing
    in the world that could be, you know, working against me has been for a >> long time. And I continue waking up every day and leaning in and
    saying, 'Hey, I'm going to come out here and I am going to keep doing
    the best I can to make the world a better place, and to make life
    easier for all of us.' And try to teach people how to make life easier
    for themselves and make better decisions about their leadership and all >> of that stuff because I'm not out here trying to cover my own ass. I'm
    trying to get everybody's ass covered. I'm trying to bring everybody
    up. And like I said, this has been going on for a decade plus now.
    That, you know, these big pages that you know the other ninety-eight
    and the being liberal and blah blah blah. All these big astroturf fake
    grassroots grifters who have no ideological commitment. Whatever, the
    only thing they're interested in is pandering the people's biases and
    making money. They're making money hand over fist, right? Millions and
    millions of dollars a year and here I still sit. Here I still sit. And
    so, I don't, again, it's, I don't want to be, you know, self-pity, and
    I don't want you to pity me, and I don't want you to feel sorry for me. >> I want you to understand that the work I'm doing is worthwhile and it
    is adding positive effects to the world and doing good and nudging the
    battleship of humanity a quarter degree at a time in a more sane
    direction with all of your help. And I have enjoyed the privilege of
    having an audience and having a platform. In spite of, you know, losing >> the Obama page last year, which is 200,000 people that Facebook cut off >> because one of the admins was sloppy about what they were posting. And
    just on and on.

    I have been beating my hand against the wall for a decade and a half.
    Hanging on by my fingernails as they pull out of my fingers
    desperately, desperately trying to stay alive and get ahead. And the
    only thing I've been able to do is just barely stay alive. And I love
    you all, but that has to change, and it has to change like today. And
    so what I'm asking her to do, I'm not going to be here all night. I'm
    going to try to get this. It's probably not going to be under fifteen,
    but I'm going to try to get it under 20 minutes. What I'm asking to do
    is please, please, please, please, everything I post, engage, like,
    share, comment, spread it around. Tell people, I post regular
    fundraising links to the PayPal and to the Linktree, into the Patreon,
    and my website where I've got the shopping cart set up. And I've been
    doing some other new stuff over there so people can make contributions
    that are directly targeted towards like paying for Adobe software and
    so on and so forth.

    I desperately, desperately need all of the help I can get. And I want
    to be absolutely clear. There's a lot of BS that goes on out there
    about me. A lot of people talk crap behind my back and whatever. And I
    don't pay attention to it much unless it gets right in my face and I
    have to. There's no ulterior motive here. I'm not strung out on drugs.

    IIRC, he just requested aid for "pain relief".

    I'm not out blowing money on gambling or throwing it away.

    Paying subscriptions for tools that aren't used for months at a time and even when they are don't result in reliable revenue is both gambling and throwing money away.

    None of that
    stuff. Right? There is no secret here. I am here to help me. I mean,
    it's legitimate and authentic and grassroots and independent as anybody >> possibly can be. I don't take money from the Democratic Party, the way
    that some of these big pages do. I don't take money from corporate
    sponsors the way that some of these big pages do. I don't want other
    people's advertisements on my Facebook page, etc., etc., etc.

    There seems like far greater potential for corruption in relying on
    1 person for housing and food and a tiny number of regular donators
    for sodas and Adobe, than there would be from sponsorship by an accountable source like a big political party. They're even transparent about the sponsorship, which is apparently cause for complaint.

    If, when any one of the handful of people supporting you threatens to withhold support, it upends your entire life, that's a huge
    vulnerability.

    I have gone out of my way and done incredible damage in my own life
    and to my own space, into my own survivability, and my health, and my
    mental health. For years and years and years to try to get ahead and
    get out into the world and say, hey, look, here is what we need to do.
    Here is the information. We need to be more politically literate. We
    need to stop being enslaved by our egos and insisting on rejecting any
    information that suggests to us that maybe we've been calm or been
    fooled or been led astray by bad ideas or getting sucked into things
    that appeal to our biases and egos rather than the truth, etcetera.

    I'm out here working, doing the very best that I can, right? I've been
    doing it forever. My name and my face are all over the internet for 15, >> 20 years. Being this hard left, anti-capitalist, political activist,
    even if I wasn't over 50 years old, I would not be employable at this
    point.

    IIRC, he claimed to get a job (rather quickly) less than a year ago.
    Also, it's not like your average HR person is right-wing.

    People are not going to hire somebody when they are legally
    allowed in this country, which they aren't in some countries, to go
    digging through Google and digging through my Facebook history and
    everything else and deciding, oh, this guy is, he's a lefty. He's an
    anti-fascist. He's an anti-capitalist. He's going to come in and be
    disruptive and he's going to be a problem for us so we're not going to
    hire him. Now, on the face of it, of course, that's illegal as hell.
    You're not allowed to do that. It is a refuse to hire somebody over
    their political beliefs but long as they're not stupid enough to tell
    me to my face, that's why I'm not being hired. There's nothing I can do >> about it. And now I'm old.

    He won't apply for welfare because he knows he won't be approved, he
    won't apply for a job because he knows he won't be hired, he won't
    look for a room to rent because he knows he won't be accepted...

    I just don't know what to do anymore. I'm at my absolute wit's end. I
    just don't know what to do anymore. What I do know is that giving up is >> not an option. Not doing the work that I do here on this page and on
    the website and all the political stuff and all the media and
    information literacy stuff and trying to expose these frauds and
    grifters that are in various spaces, including it's not just the
    political space. I've been looking at all these Native American pages
    that are on Facebook and stuff over the last couple of days and it's
    like nine out of ten of them, all the administrators are based in like
    Vietnam or the Philippines. These are Native Americans. These are
    thieves, you know, and they're thieves. They use the imagery and the
    ideas and the symbolism of Native American culture to appeal to people
    who are attracted to that and suck money out of their pockets and sell
    cheap T-shirts and so on and so forth. And it's a problem in every
    sector on social media. There are so many scams out there and there are >> so many people that are just I don't know what happened to human
    conscience. I don't know how these people do this. I don't know how
    anybody can go out and just flat out lie to millions of people and
    steal money and energy and time and work from real activists who are
    trying to make the world better and put it in their pocket to the tune
    of millions of dollars a year and live with themselves. I don't know
    how people do that. And I'm not in that business. I've never been in
    that business, right?

    It would be so easy for me and would have been at any point in the last >> 7 months, right? I could easily come out and say, hey, you know,
    cancer roommate, medical cause, need money, and I could spam that all
    over social media and the money would come rolling in but it would be
    dishonest. It would be fraud. It would be crooked. It would be
    everything that I stand against.

    I'm asking y'all and and hilariously, I'm looking right. There's like
    one person watching this stream right now.

    I got 5,000 people following my page, and there's one person watching
    the stream right now. And I just, you know, we gotta get over this idea >> that somebody honestly asking for support is they must be the fraud.
    But it's the person that's out there who's pretending to be Native
    American, who's pretending to be black,

    *cough*

    who's pretending to be gay,
    who's pretending to be a woman,

    Roadmap?

    who's pretending, pretending,
    pretending, lying through their teeth, and making stuff up. But it
    sounds good and it looks good on us socially when we appear to be
    supporting that. We gotta break that. We have to break that thinking.
    It's killing us. It is wiping us out. That is what's doing the damage
    to our democracy. This is why we don't have a real left-wing in this
    country. This is why so many of us are struggling. This is why the
    AMPTP and the automakers think that they can get away with continuing
    to hurt people and threaten people and punish people for demanding
    better working conditions and all the other stuff that's going on right >> now with these strikes. Because we put all of our energy behind these
    frauds and these grifters. And in the meantime, people like me are out
    here trying to do it authentically because everybody wants authenticity >> except they want a highly polished and well-rehearsed and, you know,
    they want authentic bullshit. And that's going to stop. That's gotta
    stop. That is what's hurting us. And, you know, again, this, you know,
    my personal problems and the things that I'm going through are
    definitely a major problem. And if something does not happen in a huge
    way in the next month or so, I really just don't know what I'm going to >> do or where I'm going to be. But right now, as things stand, if
    something doesn't happen very soon, I'm going to be on the streets on
    December 1st, and you're not going to hear from me anymore. And I would >> rather not see that happen for my own selfish reasons, obviously, but
    also because I've still got a lot of work to do and a lot of things to
    say and a lot of information and energy to put out there into the
    world. And that includes, you know, supporting.

    I've recently become. There's a really great page out there called Vox
    Plus Guest that is run by the members of a band called Vox Plus Sticks. >> Um, and they are just incredible energy for mutual aid and sharing and
    everything else. So, the last week or so, I've had a lot of like
    independent musicians and so on and so forth which I love because I've
    been one for 45 years and I want to do everything I can to support
    them. I'm doing everything. Everything I know how to do. I am one
    person. And I am doing the work of 10 people every single day. And I
    want to be clear. I know I'm not sane. Okay? I know I'm not normal. I
    know I can sometimes come off abrasive or what have you. I get that. I
    understand that. That's the world we live in. And that's what needs to
    change. That's the evolution that needs to happen is we need to start
    breaking this thinking. We need to start breaking our training and this >> commercialism and all the things that we've been, you know, taught
    through advertising and marketing tricks in terms of only believing
    people that are already rich and then they need more money. Like, that
    doesn't make any sense, right? So, I'm already again 2 minutes past
    where I wanted to be. I'm going to go ahead and cut it off here pretty
    quick but I want to just leave you with a thought. Please, man. Please, >> please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, >> engage with my work on my page, share, spread it around. Don't be
    afraid to say to people, hey, this guy deserves your support. This guy
    deserves your help. He deserves your attention, right? If I can blow up >> on Facebook and stay blown up, the income from that will cover me,
    right? I can make up to $30,000 a month from Facebook. Right now, you
    know, like I said, I got seventy bucks. Need to need to move that up
    and I got a couple of folks that have been following me. Uh especially
    Tony Nelson. I definitely wanted to give a shout out too because he's
    been a friend of mine for a long long time back to the wrestling group
    in the nineties. Um and he's just been sharing everything. And and
    liking everything and leaving comments on tons of stuff. And that is
    the energy I need from like all 5000 of you. I really really need that. >> I need you to make that extra little effort for me. A couple of times a >> day. Spend 5 minutes. Dropped by the page. Like the stuff that I've
    posted. Share the video is share the articles, all that other stuff.
    Get it out there. Bring people in and let's build this up because I I
    need, you know, I I don't want to use the word miracle because I'm an
    atheist. I don't believe in miracles. But what I need is a break for
    one goddamn time in my life. I just need a real break.

    11 months of free rent (15+ counting the waived rent from the other
    place)
    11 months of free food
    11 months of free electricity

    That's not a break?
    No.

    It’s a thieving parasite…

    Best highlights:
    "I've got until December 1st to get enough support under me to find a place to live. Whether that means being able to buy a place or what, I don't know."
    Because based on past success he can absolutely imagine people giving enough money to buy property outright. And then I suppose they keep giving to pay the taxes, insurance, maintenance, heating, electricity, his food, a car and costs for that, new
    computers, and a fucking chair worthy of him.
    He whines he doesn't get enough to buy a soda- but sure. Newsflash John- your self made emergency is just that- yours. There is no "we" aside from a few delusional followers who are as broke as you. Sucks you pissed away the many months long chance Mona
    provided for you playing video games. You got nine weeks left- and instead of finding actual money via a job it is clear all of us get yet another chance to watch you whine and cry and panic as you do nothing to help yourself and insist people should pay
    you to play on your computer.

    "I know that thanks to my *ahem* loving family, I now have an eviction on my record "
    Thanks to YOU, John. Anyone who leaves when asked doesn't end up evicted. Property owner said go- you said no.
    THAT is why you have an eviction.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Davey Zimmerman #274@21:1/5 to Kara Mac on Wed Sep 20 15:40:29 2023
    Kara Mac <karamcnamara0630@gmail.com> wrote in news:649e28b8-0a33-43b2-8a21-a8cb1db2dd42n@googlegroups.com:

    On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 5:07:26 AM UTC-4, ]v[etaphoid
    wrote:
    Mark Raslin (w/Ancient Psychoses) <ma...@rube.con> wrote:
    Grudge Rounds <richmennor...@times.up> wrote in
    news:ueb77q$2fpor$1...@novabbs.org:

    Taro Tsujimoto wrote:

    On Sep 18, 2023, rec.sport.pro-wrestling wrote
    (in article<473f8333-04a6-444d...@googlegroups.com>):

    There have been unfortunate new developments.

    https://www.facebook.com/events/974690483820390/?ref=rspw
    <snip baseless accusation and unnecessary abuse>

    Transcript:

    Alright, kids. How are you? I don't know what you're looking at. I
    don't know what we're looking at. But here I am. Uh, we are trying
    to

    make this live stream happen and I hope let me do something
    obvious so

    I can see what my lag is like here. Make sure I'm going to watch
    my stream. Okay. Looks like I'm good. Uh, so here I am. Uh, need
    to chat

    with you all about some ongoing situations. Let me wind things
    back up

    to sort of the beginning back in late February, the March of this
    year
    .
    Uh, I had been living in this horrible bedbug filled dope-filled
    mess

    of a trap house and things had got to the point where I just
    couldn't

    work.

    Seems like he's put out less content since moving out.

    The landlord was uncooperative.

    IIRC, the landlord identified John as the problem since he was the
    only

    one complaining and the only one who couldn't manage to get along
    with

    the others, and offered to waive thousands of dollars in owed rent
    if

    he would just leave. That's the most cooperative landlord I've ever
    heard of. This superhero of a landlord not only made peace in the
    house

    with a single move, but satisfied all parties involved at his own
    expense.

    I had roommates that were
    seriously problematic and damaging property and everything else.
    So, I

    was on the streets for a minute, actually in a hotel.

    IIRC, he admitted to being unsociable because the sex offender
    living

    there (the one on the registry) rubbed him the wrong way.

    Thanks to the
    generous assistance of friends. While I was staying at the hotel,
    I wa
    s
    actually on my last day and in the lobby trying to figure out how
    I wa
    s
    going to pay for one more night and I ran into a friend of mine
    that I

    had known back in high school. Haven't seen her for about 35
    years. We

    got to talking. As it turned out, she is dealing with stage 4
    terminal

    cancer in her lungs and her brain. She needed somebody to stay
    with her. She had a spare room and she needed somebody here to
    help out and

    basically just to be here in case she had some kind of medical
    problem

    and couldn't reach the phone, right? So, I've been here and I've
    been

    able to take advantage of a lot of time.

    Neat how this is framed as her needing him.

    I absolutely do not want to
    get into like running my roommate down. It's not what this is
    about.

    But the situation as it stands right now is she's been on
    disability

    and on disability, you have a grace period. I think it's nine
    months

    where you're still allowed to earn money and they don't penalize
    you o
    r
    threaten to take you off the disability. Unfortunately, that grace
    period is about to end. With that grace period ending, she's still
    reasonably healthy and has been working and so on and so forth but
    that's going to have to end because if she continues working then
    her

    disability gets cut off and that's her health care and her medical
    insurance. Her employer's insurance doesn't cover chemotherapy,
    etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. So it's this big, snarled, tangled
    mess

    of who knows how you're going to deal with this, right? So she
    came to

    me today and you know, the deadline of December 1st has been
    impending

    for a time for 9 months. We knew this was coming. Excuse me. But
    what

    we didn't know was what was going to have to be done to deal with
    it.

    Now the problem is if I'm living here all of my income also counts
    against her disability.

    What income?!

    I can't get any of that stuff. I don't qualify
    for any of that stuff.

    IIRC, he admitted to not even bothering to apply for a lot of help
    because it wasn't possible to do it online, and he didn't want to
    leave

    his
    belongings at the mercy of his housemates when he went to the
    welfare

    office.

    What little I could maybe qualify for has years
    long waiting lists including housing and everything else because I
    hav
    e
    my own problems, right?

    IIRC, he said the same thing last year. If he had put himself on
    the lists, he'd at least be higher up by now.

    It's been working out alright but
    unfortunately, it is not going to continue working alright.

    I have to leave. I have to be out of here December first because I
    can't be here. If I am here, that jeopardizes her access to
    medical care and her disability.

    This doesn't scan.

    Again, I don't want to get into the business
    of running my roommate down but my first response to that of
    course was, let's raise some money and get you a bank built up so
    we can make

    sure your property taxes are covered and everything else. We'll do
    a

    third party. That way, you're not handling the money and then it
    can b
    e
    treated as a gift. It doesn't come against your disability and all
    tha
    t
    other stuff. I actually went so far. I started setting up a
    GoFundMe.

    Um and then I went and said, well, I made a picture to do this
    fundraiser and then it was, well, I didn't ask you for that. I
    didn't

    need the help. I don't want the help. That's not, I don't want any
    of

    that.

    Deja vu?

    Okay. Well, that means that there's nothing I can do and now I
    have to

    worry about helping myself. Um I there's there's literally my
    hands ar
    e
    tied. I don't want to approach the situation like this. Uh I don't
    I

    this is not what I want to be doing. Uh on any level. Uh I don't
    want

    to move out. I don't want to leave her here by herself to to deal
    with

    all this stuff. Um but it clearly the situation is I've got to go.
    Um

    and so that's that's where we're at right now. Uh and I'm a little
    freaked out and I'm very very scared and very very worried. Um
    I've been slowly you know trying to build this page up and and
    trying to to

    to reach out to to everybody. Uh and let you know. Like we've
    gotta we've gotta step on this and and some people have and I I
    seriously appreciate that. Um but it's also you know it's it's 20
    bucks. It's yo
    u
    know, 50 bucks if I'm lucky. Um and and my monthly income is
    still, yo
    u
    know, on the order of three, $400 Um right now, I'm on Facebook's
    bonu
    s
    program. Uh they added me to that a couple of months ago And I had
    tha
    t
    post go viral here about a week and a half ago. Uh before it was
    shamelessly stolen by the other ninety-eight percent. Um I ended
    up with about 850, 000 views on that. Like 130000 likes. Added a
    couple o
    f
    hundred people to to my followers on on this page. Uh and the the
    mone
    y
    translation from that worked out to about well, I was at about 12
    buck
    s
    when it started. So, it's been like sixty-two, $63 that came on to
    tha
    t
    and that's awesome. I mean, I'm not trying to not appreciate that
    and

    I'm not trying to not appreciate the people who have helped out,
    you

    know, some folks have been helping for years, right? There's
    there's,

    you know, I've got patrons who have been signed up for a couple of
    years at five bucks a piece. I've got a two patrons over there
    that ar
    e
    50 bucks a month and they've been on there one one friend of mine
    has

    been off and on for a couple of years. Uh another friend who's
    also,

    you know, a reader on this page has been there at fifty bucks
    since th
    e
    beginning of this year and all of that helps and I appreciate. I
    would

    not be able to maintain even my Adobe subscription.

    ...

    Uh if if not for
    that but it's also not survivable. Um and now, I am in a really
    really

    difficult position. Uh in that, I don't know how I'm going to
    live. I

    don't know how I'm going to survive. I don't know where I'm going
    to

    go. I don't know how I'm going to get there. Uh the the externally
    sourced drama that originally resulted in me, you know, being
    having t
    o
    move into that boarding house in the first place. Uh that was, you
    know, my my loving family and thanks to that. I have an eviction
    on my

    record.

    Appears to be true. "DEJONG V DEJONG" appears in the MiCOURT Case
    Searc
    h.
    What's the story here?

    So, I can't just jump out and go, oh, hey, here's, you know,
    couple hundred bucks. Uh, security deposit a month's rent, you're
    goin
    g
    to let me move in, right? Um, because I've got an eviction on my
    record. Um, and, and we all know that the housing situation out
    there

    is absolutely horrible. Anyway, landlords are charging, you know,
    two,

    three months worth of rent all kinds of ridiculous security
    deposits

    and fees and everything else. It's it's not easy for anybody out
    there

    right now to do to find a place to be, okay? Why I've done this
    video

    and and why I'm I'm doing this video all of the top of my head is
    to

    try to reach out and let you all know that the time is now. Um the
    thi
    s
    this entire situation has to change. I have to get stabilized.

    IIRC, some of his followers offered to put him up last year but he
    wanted to remain in Michigan for some reason.

    I have to grow my audience to the point of being able to sustain.
    I've

    been out here for, you know, the 15 years doing this stuff, and
    I've

    been just absolutely crushed by, you know, these giant grifting
    pages

    that are working against me. I got stalkers going on, and people
    going

    back channel and all kinds of rumor mongering. Just every single
    thing

    in the world that could be, you know, working against me has been
    for
    a
    long time. And I continue waking up every day and leaning in and
    saying, 'Hey, I'm going to come out here and I am going to keep
    doing

    the best I can to make the world a better place, and to make life
    easier for all of us.' And try to teach people how to make life
    easier

    for themselves and make better decisions about their leadership
    and al
    l
    of that stuff because I'm not out here trying to cover my own ass.
    I'm

    trying to get everybody's ass covered. I'm trying to bring
    everybody

    up. And like I said, this has been going on for a decade plus now.
    That, you know, these big pages that you know the other
    ninety-eight

    and the being liberal and blah blah blah. All these big astroturf
    fake

    grassroots grifters who have no ideological commitment. Whatever,
    the

    only thing they're interested in is pandering the people's biases
    and

    making money. They're making money hand over fist, right? Millions
    and

    millions of dollars a year and here I still sit. Here I still sit.
    And

    so, I don't, again, it's, I don't want to be, you know, self-pity,
    and

    I don't want you to pity me, and I don't want you to feel sorry
    for me
    .
    I want you to understand that the work I'm doing is worthwhile and
    it

    is adding positive effects to the world and doing good and nudging
    the

    battleship of humanity a quarter degree at a time in a more sane
    direction with all of your help. And I have enjoyed the privilege
    of

    having an audience and having a platform. In spite of, you know,
    losin
    g
    the Obama page last year, which is 200,000 people that Facebook
    cut of
    f
    because one of the admins was sloppy about what they were posting.
    And

    just on and on.

    I have been beating my hand against the wall for a decade and a
    half.

    Hanging on by my fingernails as they pull out of my fingers
    desperately, desperately trying to stay alive and get ahead. And
    the

    only thing I've been able to do is just barely stay alive. And I
    love

    you all, but that has to change, and it has to change like today.
    And

    so what I'm asking her to do, I'm not going to be here all night.
    I'm

    going to try to get this. It's probably not going to be under
    fifteen,

    but I'm going to try to get it under 20 minutes. What I'm asking
    to do

    is please, please, please, please, everything I post, engage,
    like, share, comment, spread it around. Tell people, I post
    regular fundraising links to the PayPal and to the Linktree, into
    the Patreon,

    and my website where I've got the shopping cart set up. And I've
    been

    doing some other new stuff over there so people can make
    contributions

    that are directly targeted towards like paying for Adobe software
    and

    so on and so forth.

    I desperately, desperately need all of the help I can get. And I
    want

    to be absolutely clear. There's a lot of BS that goes on out there
    about me. A lot of people talk crap behind my back and whatever.
    And I

    don't pay attention to it much unless it gets right in my face and
    I

    have to. There's no ulterior motive here. I'm not strung out on
    drugs.


    IIRC, he just requested aid for "pain relief".

    I'm not out blowing money on gambling or throwing it away.

    Paying subscriptions for tools that aren't used for months at a
    time an
    d
    even when they are don't result in reliable revenue is both
    gambling an
    d
    throwing money away.

    None of that
    stuff. Right? There is no secret here. I am here to help me. I
    mean,

    it's legitimate and authentic and grassroots and independent as
    anybod
    y
    possibly can be. I don't take money from the Democratic Party, the
    way

    that some of these big pages do. I don't take money from corporate
    sponsors the way that some of these big pages do. I don't want
    other

    people's advertisements on my Facebook page, etc., etc., etc.

    There seems like far greater potential for corruption in relying on
    1 person for housing and food and a tiny number of regular donators
    for sodas and Adobe, than there would be from sponsorship by an
    accountable source like a big political party. They're even
    transparent

    about the sponsorship, which is apparently cause for complaint.

    If, when any one of the handful of people supporting you threatens
    to

    withhold support, it upends your entire life, that's a huge
    vulnerability.

    I have gone out of my way and done incredible damage in my own
    life and to my own space, into my own survivability, and my
    health, and my

    mental health. For years and years and years to try to get ahead
    and

    get out into the world and say, hey, look, here is what we need to
    do.

    Here is the information. We need to be more politically literate.
    We

    need to stop being enslaved by our egos and insisting on rejecting
    any

    information that suggests to us that maybe we've been calm or been
    fooled or been led astray by bad ideas or getting sucked into
    things

    that appeal to our biases and egos rather than the truth,
    etcetera.

    I'm out here working, doing the very best that I can, right? I've
    been

    doing it forever. My name and my face are all over the internet
    for 15
    ,
    20 years. Being this hard left, anti-capitalist, political
    activist,

    even if I wasn't over 50 years old, I would not be employable at
    this

    point.

    IIRC, he claimed to get a job (rather quickly) less than a year
    ago. Also, it's not like your average HR person is right-wing.

    People are not going to hire somebody when they are legally
    allowed in this country, which they aren't in some countries, to
    go digging through Google and digging through my Facebook history
    and everything else and deciding, oh, this guy is, he's a lefty.
    He's an

    anti-fascist. He's an anti-capitalist. He's going to come in and
    be disruptive and he's going to be a problem for us so we're not
    going to

    hire him. Now, on the face of it, of course, that's illegal as
    hell.

    You're not allowed to do that. It is a refuse to hire somebody
    over their political beliefs but long as they're not stupid enough
    to tell

    me to my face, that's why I'm not being hired. There's nothing I
    can d
    o
    about it. And now I'm old.

    He won't apply for welfare because he knows he won't be approved,
    he won't apply for a job because he knows he won't be hired, he
    won't look for a room to rent because he knows he won't be
    accepted...

    I just don't know what to do anymore. I'm at my absolute wit's
    end. I

    just don't know what to do anymore. What I do know is that giving
    up i
    s
    not an option. Not doing the work that I do here on this page and
    on

    the website and all the political stuff and all the media and
    information literacy stuff and trying to expose these frauds and
    grifters that are in various spaces, including it's not just the
    political space. I've been looking at all these Native American
    pages

    that are on Facebook and stuff over the last couple of days and
    it's

    like nine out of ten of them, all the administrators are based in
    like

    Vietnam or the Philippines. These are Native Americans. These are
    thieves, you know, and they're thieves. They use the imagery and
    the

    ideas and the symbolism of Native American culture to appeal to
    people

    who are attracted to that and suck money out of their pockets and
    sell

    cheap T-shirts and so on and so forth. And it's a problem in every
    sector on social media. There are so many scams out there and
    there ar
    e
    so many people that are just I don't know what happened to human
    conscience. I don't know how these people do this. I don't know
    how anybody can go out and just flat out lie to millions of people
    and steal money and energy and time and work from real activists
    who are

    trying to make the world better and put it in their pocket to the
    tune

    of millions of dollars a year and live with themselves. I don't
    know

    how people do that. And I'm not in that business. I've never been
    in

    that business, right?

    It would be so easy for me and would have been at any point in the
    las
    t
    7 months, right? I could easily come out and say, hey, you know,
    cancer roommate, medical cause, need money, and I could spam that
    all

    over social media and the money would come rolling in but it would
    be

    dishonest. It would be fraud. It would be crooked. It would be
    everything that I stand against.

    I'm asking y'all and and hilariously, I'm looking right. There's
    like

    one person watching this stream right now.

    I got 5,000 people following my page, and there's one person
    watching

    the stream right now. And I just, you know, we gotta get over this
    ide
    a
    that somebody honestly asking for support is they must be the
    fraud.

    But it's the person that's out there who's pretending to be Native
    American, who's pretending to be black,

    *cough*

    who's pretending to be gay,
    who's pretending to be a woman,

    Roadmap?

    who's pretending, pretending,
    pretending, lying through their teeth, and making stuff up. But it
    sounds good and it looks good on us socially when we appear to be
    supporting that. We gotta break that. We have to break that
    thinking.

    It's killing us. It is wiping us out. That is what's doing the
    damage

    to our democracy. This is why we don't have a real left-wing in
    this

    country. This is why so many of us are struggling. This is why the
    AMPTP and the automakers think that they can get away with
    continuing

    to hurt people and threaten people and punish people for demanding
    better working conditions and all the other stuff that's going on
    righ
    t
    now with these strikes. Because we put all of our energy behind
    these

    frauds and these grifters. And in the meantime, people like me are
    out

    here trying to do it authentically because everybody wants
    authenticit
    y
    except they want a highly polished and well-rehearsed and, you
    know,

    they want authentic bullshit. And that's going to stop. That's
    gotta

    stop. That is what's hurting us. And, you know, again, this, you
    know,

    my personal problems and the things that I'm going through are
    definitely a major problem. And if something does not happen in a
    huge

    way in the next month or so, I really just don't know what I'm
    going t
    o
    do or where I'm going to be. But right now, as things stand, if
    something doesn't happen very soon, I'm going to be on the streets
    on

    December 1st, and you're not going to hear from me anymore. And I
    woul
    d
    rather not see that happen for my own selfish reasons, obviously,
    but

    also because I've still got a lot of work to do and a lot of
    things to

    say and a lot of information and energy to put out there into the
    world. And that includes, you know, supporting.

    I've recently become. There's a really great page out there called
    Vox

    Plus Guest that is run by the members of a band called Vox Plus
    Sticks
    .
    Um, and they are just incredible energy for mutual aid and sharing
    and

    everything else. So, the last week or so, I've had a lot of like
    independent musicians and so on and so forth which I love because
    I've

    been one for 45 years and I want to do everything I can to support
    them. I'm doing everything. Everything I know how to do. I am one
    person. And I am doing the work of 10 people every single day. And
    I

    want to be clear. I know I'm not sane. Okay? I know I'm not
    normal. I

    know I can sometimes come off abrasive or what have you. I get
    that. I

    understand that. That's the world we live in. And that's what
    needs to

    change. That's the evolution that needs to happen is we need to
    start

    breaking this thinking. We need to start breaking our training and
    thi
    s
    commercialism and all the things that we've been, you know, taught
    through advertising and marketing tricks in terms of only
    believing people that are already rich and then they need more
    money. Like, that

    doesn't make any sense, right? So, I'm already again 2 minutes
    past where I wanted to be. I'm going to go ahead and cut it off
    here pretty

    quick but I want to just leave you with a thought. Please, man.
    Please
    ,
    please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please,
    please
    ,
    engage with my work on my page, share, spread it around. Don't be
    afraid to say to people, hey, this guy deserves your support. This
    guy

    deserves your help. He deserves your attention, right? If I can
    blow u
    p
    on Facebook and stay blown up, the income from that will cover me,
    right? I can make up to $30,000 a month from Facebook. Right now,
    you

    know, like I said, I got seventy bucks. Need to need to move that
    up

    and I got a couple of folks that have been following me. Uh
    especially

    Tony Nelson. I definitely wanted to give a shout out too because
    he's

    been a friend of mine for a long long time back to the wrestling
    group

    in the nineties. Um and he's just been sharing everything. And and
    liking everything and leaving comments on tons of stuff. And that
    is

    the energy I need from like all 5000 of you. I really really need
    that
    .
    I need you to make that extra little effort for me. A couple of
    times
    a
    day. Spend 5 minutes. Dropped by the page. Like the stuff that
    I've posted. Share the video is share the articles, all that other
    stuff.

    Get it out there. Bring people in and let's build this up because
    I I

    need, you know, I I don't want to use the word miracle because I'm
    an

    atheist. I don't believe in miracles. But what I need is a break
    for

    one goddamn time in my life. I just need a real break.

    11 months of free rent (15+ counting the waived rent from the other
    place)
    11 months of free food
    11 months of free electricity

    That's not a break?
    No.

    It’s a thieving parasite…

    Best highlights:
    "I've got until December 1st to get enough support under me to find a
    place to live. Whether that means being able to buy a place or what,
    I don't know." Because based on past success he can absolutely imagine
    people giving enough money to buy property outright. And then I
    suppose they keep giving to pay the taxes, insurance, maintenance,
    heating, electricity, his food, a car and costs for that, new
    computers, and a fucking chair worthy of him. He whines he doesn't get
    enough to buy a soda- but sure. Newsflash John- your self made
    emergency is just that- yours. There is no "we" aside from a few
    delusional followers who are as broke as you. Sucks you pissed away
    the many months long chance Mona provided for you playing video games.
    You got nine weeks left- and instead of finding actual money via a job
    it is clear all of us get yet another chance to watch you whine and
    cry and panic as you do nothing to help yourself and insist people
    should pay you to play on your computer.

    Don't forget he wants a studio and all the software too. Why stop there?
    A "John Henry Cable TeeVee Network" would help a lot -
    thankyewveddymuch.

    "I know that thanks to my *ahem* loving family, I now have an eviction
    on my record " Thanks to YOU, John. Anyone who leaves when asked
    doesn't end up evicted. Property owner said go- you said no. THAT is
    why you have an eviction.


    I'm pretty sure John has an eviction in Utah as well. There are probably others.

    John whines about not getting breaks. His brother took him in and John
    did nothing for over 20 months other than mooch. The last landlord cut
    him all sorts of breaks and he got repaid by losing over four months of
    rent. His last landlord didn't want to file an eviction and did
    everything possible to avoid it. John still couldn't leave on time.

    Of course they both got repaid by John trashing them. Seeing a pattern?

    Don't worry, Mona will be trashed right after John gets frogmarched out
    the door. Hell, he does the same thing to the people who donate to him.

    The way John shows thanks for anything is that he tells people that you
    can't buy him and then runs them down after they stop sending money or promoting him for free.

    Ever want to know what it's like to feel remorse after sending someone
    money? Send some to John and disagree with him on something. A pity John doesn't give refunds.

    Paypal him now.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 20 13:33:03 2023
    In article <473f8333-04a6-444d-a73e-26ea9d829fb9n@googlegroups.com>, lazmann@protonmail.com says...

    There have been unfortunate new developments.

    https://www.facebook.com/events/974690483820390/?ref=rspw

    This content isn't available right now
    When this happens, it's usually because the owner only shared it with a
    small group of people, changed who can see it or it's been deleted.

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  • From Family Guy@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 21 19:43:42 2023
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 9:09:43 PM UTC-4, Davey Zimmerman #274 wrote:
    Family Guy <madeforz...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:c91c4574-4e24-4c69...@googlegroups.com:
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 8:00:14 PM UTC-4, rec.sport.pro-wrestling wrote:
    There have been unfortunate new developments.

    https://www.facebook.com/events/974690483820390/?ref=rspw

    Is he homeless and vlogging from a public wi-fi yet?
    Poor John, the ATM shuts down again.

    Watch him at some point try to go "live" using his cell phone and the public library wi-fi. I bet that one will be hilarious.

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  • From %@21:1/5 to Family Guy on Thu Sep 21 19:46:55 2023
    Family Guy wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 10:07:30 AM UTC-4, Kara Mac wrote:

    Best highlights:
    "I've got until December 1st to get enough support under me to find a place to live. Whether that means being able to buy a place or what, I don't know."

    Does he think he lives in the Monopoly game? Is he blaming the guy in the top hat for all of his problems?


    Because based on past success he can absolutely imagine people giving enough money to buy property outright. And then I suppose they keep giving to pay the taxes, insurance, maintenance, heating, electricity, his food, a car and costs for that, new
    computers, and a fucking chair worthy of him.
    He whines he doesn't get enough to buy a soda- but sure. Newsflash John- your self made emergency is just that- yours. There is no "we" aside from a few delusional followers who are as broke as you. Sucks you pissed away the many months long chance
    Mona provided for you playing video games. You got nine weeks left- and instead of finding actual money via a job it is clear all of us get yet another chance to watch you whine and cry and panic as you do nothing to help yourself and insist people
    should pay you to play on your computer.


    Jo-jo thinks people are out to get him and have been doing so behind the scenes for years.
    His imaginary enemies are always keeping him from finding a job, getting viewers, saving up cash and, from appearances, getting a shower and a haircut.



    "I know that thanks to my *ahem* loving family, I now have an eviction on my record "
    Thanks to YOU, John. Anyone who leaves when asked doesn't end up evicted. Property owner said go- you said no.
    THAT is why you have an eviction.

    look , it's uncle worm head

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  • From Family Guy@21:1/5 to Kara Mac on Thu Sep 21 19:45:29 2023
    On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 10:07:30 AM UTC-4, Kara Mac wrote:

    Best highlights:
    "I've got until December 1st to get enough support under me to find a place to live. Whether that means being able to buy a place or what, I don't know."

    Does he think he lives in the Monopoly game? Is he blaming the guy in the top hat for all of his problems?


    Because based on past success he can absolutely imagine people giving enough money to buy property outright. And then I suppose they keep giving to pay the taxes, insurance, maintenance, heating, electricity, his food, a car and costs for that, new
    computers, and a fucking chair worthy of him.
    He whines he doesn't get enough to buy a soda- but sure. Newsflash John- your self made emergency is just that- yours. There is no "we" aside from a few delusional followers who are as broke as you. Sucks you pissed away the many months long chance
    Mona provided for you playing video games. You got nine weeks left- and instead of finding actual money via a job it is clear all of us get yet another chance to watch you whine and cry and panic as you do nothing to help yourself and insist people
    should pay you to play on your computer.


    Jo-jo thinks people are out to get him and have been doing so behind the scenes for years.
    His imaginary enemies are always keeping him from finding a job, getting viewers, saving up cash and, from appearances, getting a shower and a haircut.



    "I know that thanks to my *ahem* loving family, I now have an eviction on my record "
    Thanks to YOU, John. Anyone who leaves when asked doesn't end up evicted. Property owner said go- you said no.
    THAT is why you have an eviction.

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  • From ]v[etaphoid@21:1/5 to Family Guy on Fri Sep 22 11:13:23 2023
    Family Guy <madeforzyngagames@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 10:07:30 AM UTC-4, Kara Mac wrote:

    Best highlights:
    "I've got until December 1st to get enough support under me to find a
    place to live. Whether that means being able to buy a place or what, I don't know."

    Does he think he lives in the Monopoly game? Is he blaming the guy in the
    top hat for all of his problems?


    Because based on past success he can absolutely imagine people giving
    enough money to buy property outright. And then I suppose they keep
    giving to pay the taxes, insurance, maintenance, heating, electricity,
    his food, a car and costs for that, new computers, and a fucking chair worthy of him.
    He whines he doesn't get enough to buy a soda- but sure. Newsflash John-
    your self made emergency is just that- yours. There is no "we" aside
    from a few delusional followers who are as broke as you. Sucks you
    pissed away the many months long chance Mona provided for you playing
    video games. You got nine weeks left- and instead of finding actual
    money via a job it is clear all of us get yet another chance to watch
    you whine and cry and panic as you do nothing to help yourself and
    insist people should pay you to play on your computer.


    Jo-jo thinks people are out to get him and have been doing so behind the scenes for years.
    His imaginary enemies are always keeping him from finding a job, getting viewers, saving up cash and, from appearances, getting a shower and a haircut.

    Just because he’s paranoid, doesn’t mean people aren’t trying to kill him…

    "I know that thanks to my *ahem* loving family, I now have an eviction on my record "
    Thanks to YOU, John. Anyone who leaves when asked doesn't end up
    evicted. Property owner said go- you said no.
    THAT is why you have an eviction.

    Thief and a liar. He’s the very reason that God invented homelessness.

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