• 5 Facts About Trump's Indictments

    From Ja-Son-Wan-Kenobi Has the High Grou@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 21 17:21:22 2023
    rump’s defenders are still lying about his indictments. Here are 5 crucial facts you can share with whoever in your life needs to hear them.

    1. President Biden did not indict Trump.

    Four different grand juries — made up of ordinary citizens — indicted Trump after being presented with evidence they found compelling enough to warrant criminal prosecution.

    The reason we have grand juries is specifically to help make sure no one gets prosecuted out of a personal vendetta.

    2. This isn’t about “free speech”

    In all four cases, Trump has been indicted because of what he allegedly did, not what he said. Lots of crimes involve speech, but that doesn’t stop them from being crimes. Even Trump’s hand-picked attorney general, Bill Barr, recognizes this defense
    is nonsense.

    3. It doesn’t matter whether Trump believed the election was stolen

    There’s plenty of evidence that Trump knew he lost the election fair and square. His claims of massive fraud were rejected by his own campaign manager, White House lawyers, and his hand-picked Justice Department officials.

    And privately, Trump seemed to admit that he either knew or didn’t care that his claims were false, allegedly criticizing VP Pence for being “too honest,” and allegedly admitting to his Chief of Staff Mark Meadows that he lost and wanted to cover
    it up.

    But even if Trump really did believe the election was stolen, that doesn’t give him the right to allegedly commit a criminal conspiracy to try to steal it back.

    4. Trump has received preferential treatment because of who he is.

    Trump’s defenders complain about a two-tiered justice system.

    They’re right about that, but not in the way they claim. Trump has been given special privileges most criminal defendants would never get.

    In all four criminal cases, he has been released without bail. He has repeatedly been spared the indignity of a mugshot. He has not had his passport suspended or had limits placed on his ability to travel — even though two of his criminal cases involve
    direct threats to national security, and even though he has used social media to issue insults and threats against potential witnesses, behavior that would cause many criminal defendants to be held without bail pending trial.

    5. Trump was in legal trouble long before entering politics

    Some of Trump’s defenders claim the sheer number of criminal charges and civil suits he’s now facing is proof that he’s being targeted for political reasons. But you have to remember that Trump was the subject of about 4,000 legal actions before
    ever running for president. From his fraudulent Trump University scam to federal lawsuits over racist housing discrimination, Trump has spent his life in court because of his own shady behavior.

    Trump is being prosecuted now because, as four grand juries have found, the strength of the evidence against him merits it. If we fail to hold him fully accountable under the law, the precedent will embolden future presidents to break the law, jeopardize
    national security, incite insurrections, and possibly even overturn an election.

    The principle that no one is above the law is only true if we make it so.

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  • From Davey Zimmerman #274@21:1/5 to Creon on Tue Aug 22 01:54:14 2023
    Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in
    news:btUEM.126376$QQFb.58606@fx38.iad:

    On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 19:25:55 -0600, Skeeter wrote:

    In article <4bd49159-11d2-42f2-b958-bcf1f7a246a0n@googlegroups.com>,
    davidbrown20782@gmail.com says...

    rump?s defenders are still lying about his indictments. Here are 5
    crucial facts you can share with whoever in your life needs to hear
    them.

    1. President Biden did not indict Trump.

    Four different grand juries ? made up of ordinary citizens ?
    indicted Trump after being presented with evidence they found
    compelling enough to warrant criminal prosecution.

    The reason we have grand juries is specifically to help make sure no
    one gets prosecuted out of a personal vendetta.

    2. This isn?t about ?free speech?

    In all four cases, Trump has been indicted because of what he
    allegedly did, not what he said. Lots of crimes involve speech, but
    that doesn?t stop them from being crimes. Even Trump?s hand-picked
    attorney general, Bill Barr, recognizes this defense is nonsense.

    3. It doesn?t matter whether Trump believed the election was stolen

    There?s plenty of evidence that Trump knew he lost the election fair
    and square. His claims of massive fraud were rejected by his own
    campaign manager, White House lawyers, and his hand-picked Justice
    Department officials.

    And privately, Trump seemed to admit that he either knew or didn?t
    care that his claims were false, allegedly criticizing VP Pence for
    being ?too honest,? and allegedly admitting to his Chief of Staff
    Mark Meadows that he lost and wanted to cover it up.

    But even if Trump really did believe the election was stolen, that
    doesn?t give him the right to allegedly commit a criminal conspiracy
    to try to steal it back.

    4. Trump has received preferential treatment because of who he is.

    Trump?s defenders complain about a two-tiered justice system.

    They?re right about that, but not in the way they claim. Trump has
    been given special privileges most criminal defendants would never
    get.

    In all four criminal cases, he has been released without bail. He
    has repeatedly been spared the indignity of a mugshot. He has not
    had his passport suspended or had limits placed on his ability to
    travel ? even though two of his criminal cases involve direct
    threats to national security, and even though he has used social
    media to issue insults and threats against potential witnesses,
    behavior that would cause many criminal defendants to be held
    without bail pending
    trial.

    5. Trump was in legal trouble long before entering politics

    Some of Trump?s defenders claim the sheer number of criminal charges
    and civil suits he?s now facing is proof that he?s being targeted
    for political reasons. But you have to remember that Trump was the
    subject of about 4,000 legal actions before ever running for
    president. From his fraudulent Trump University scam to federal
    lawsuits over racist housing discrimination, Trump has spent his
    life in court because of his own shady behavior.

    Trump is being prosecuted now because, as four grand juries have
    found, the strength of the evidence against him merits it. If we
    fail to hold him fully accountable under the law, the precedent will
    embolden future presidents to break the law, jeopardize national
    security, incite insurrections, and possibly even overturn an
    election.

    The principle that no one is above the law is only true if we make
    it so.

    So did you dream about him last night?

    All that damning evidence, and you choose to
    "whistle past the graveyard"?

    Now that's chutzpah!

    Jason needs to give proper attribution.

    https://robertreich.org/post/726273697776795648


    "Robert Reich's writes at robertreich.substack.com. His latest book is
    "THE SYSTEM: Who Rigged It, How To Fix It." He is Chancellor's Professor
    of Public Policy at the University of California at Berkeley and Senior
    Fellow at the Blum Center. He served as Secretary of Labor in the
    Clinton administration, for which Time Magazine named him one of the 10
    most effective cabinet secretaries of the twentieth century. He has
    written 17 other books, including the best sellers "Aftershock,""The
    Work of Nations," "Beyond Outrage," and "The Common Good." He is a
    founding editor of the American Prospect magazine, founder of Inequality
    Media, a member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, and
    co-creator of the award-winning documentaries "Inequality For All,"
    streaming on YouTube, and "Saving Capitalism," now streaming on
    Netflix."

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 21 19:25:55 2023
    In article <4bd49159-11d2-42f2-b958-bcf1f7a246a0n@googlegroups.com>, davidbrown20782@gmail.com says...

    rump?s defenders are still lying about his indictments. Here are 5 crucial facts you can share with whoever in your life needs to hear them.

    1. President Biden did not indict Trump.

    Four different grand juries ? made up of ordinary citizens ? indicted Trump after being presented with evidence they found compelling enough to warrant criminal prosecution.

    The reason we have grand juries is specifically to help make sure no one gets prosecuted out of a personal vendetta.

    2. This isn?t about ?free speech?

    In all four cases, Trump has been indicted because of what he allegedly did, not what he said. Lots of crimes involve speech, but that doesn?t stop them from being crimes. Even Trump?s hand-picked attorney general, Bill Barr, recognizes this defense is
    nonsense.

    3. It doesn?t matter whether Trump believed the election was stolen

    There?s plenty of evidence that Trump knew he lost the election fair and square. His claims of massive fraud were rejected by his own campaign manager, White House lawyers, and his hand-picked Justice Department officials.

    And privately, Trump seemed to admit that he either knew or didn?t care that his claims were false, allegedly criticizing VP Pence for being ?too honest,? and allegedly admitting to his Chief of Staff Mark Meadows that he lost and wanted to cover it up.

    But even if Trump really did believe the election was stolen, that doesn?t give him the right to allegedly commit a criminal conspiracy to try to steal it back.

    4. Trump has received preferential treatment because of who he is.

    Trump?s defenders complain about a two-tiered justice system.

    They?re right about that, but not in the way they claim. Trump has been given special privileges most criminal defendants would never get.

    In all four criminal cases, he has been released without bail. He has repeatedly been spared the indignity of a mugshot. He has not had his passport suspended or had limits placed on his ability to travel ? even though two of his criminal cases involve
    direct threats to national security, and even though he has used social media to issue insults and threats against potential witnesses, behavior that would cause many criminal defendants to be held without bail pending
    trial.

    5. Trump was in legal trouble long before entering politics

    Some of Trump?s defenders claim the sheer number of criminal charges and civil suits he?s now facing is proof that he?s being targeted for political reasons. But you have to remember that Trump was the subject of about 4,000 legal actions before ever
    running for president. From his fraudulent Trump University scam to federal lawsuits over racist housing discrimination, Trump has spent his life in court because of his own shady behavior.

    Trump is being prosecuted now because, as four grand juries have found, the strength of the evidence against him merits it. If we fail to hold him fully accountable under the law, the precedent will embolden future presidents to break the law,
    jeopardize national security, incite insurrections, and possibly even overturn an election.

    The principle that no one is above the law is only true if we make it so.

    So did you dream about him last night?

    --

    "Go Peacefully"

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  • From Creon@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Tue Aug 22 01:47:51 2023
    On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 19:25:55 -0600, Skeeter wrote:

    In article <4bd49159-11d2-42f2-b958-bcf1f7a246a0n@googlegroups.com>, davidbrown20782@gmail.com says...

    rump?s defenders are still lying about his indictments. Here are 5
    crucial facts you can share with whoever in your life needs to hear
    them.

    1. President Biden did not indict Trump.

    Four different grand juries ? made up of ordinary citizens ? indicted
    Trump after being presented with evidence they found compelling enough
    to warrant criminal prosecution.

    The reason we have grand juries is specifically to help make sure no
    one gets prosecuted out of a personal vendetta.

    2. This isn?t about ?free speech?

    In all four cases, Trump has been indicted because of what he allegedly
    did, not what he said. Lots of crimes involve speech, but that doesn?t
    stop them from being crimes. Even Trump?s hand-picked attorney general,
    Bill Barr, recognizes this defense is nonsense.

    3. It doesn?t matter whether Trump believed the election was stolen

    There?s plenty of evidence that Trump knew he lost the election fair
    and square. His claims of massive fraud were rejected by his own
    campaign manager, White House lawyers, and his hand-picked Justice
    Department officials.

    And privately, Trump seemed to admit that he either knew or didn?t care
    that his claims were false, allegedly criticizing VP Pence for being
    ?too honest,? and allegedly admitting to his Chief of Staff Mark
    Meadows that he lost and wanted to cover it up.

    But even if Trump really did believe the election was stolen, that
    doesn?t give him the right to allegedly commit a criminal conspiracy to
    try to steal it back.

    4. Trump has received preferential treatment because of who he is.

    Trump?s defenders complain about a two-tiered justice system.

    They?re right about that, but not in the way they claim. Trump has been
    given special privileges most criminal defendants would never get.

    In all four criminal cases, he has been released without bail. He has
    repeatedly been spared the indignity of a mugshot. He has not had his
    passport suspended or had limits placed on his ability to travel ? even
    though two of his criminal cases involve direct threats to national
    security, and even though he has used social media to issue insults and
    threats against potential witnesses, behavior that would cause many
    criminal defendants to be held without bail pending
    trial.

    5. Trump was in legal trouble long before entering politics

    Some of Trump?s defenders claim the sheer number of criminal charges
    and civil suits he?s now facing is proof that he?s being targeted for
    political reasons. But you have to remember that Trump was the subject
    of about 4,000 legal actions before ever running for president. From
    his fraudulent Trump University scam to federal lawsuits over racist
    housing discrimination, Trump has spent his life in court because of
    his own shady behavior.

    Trump is being prosecuted now because, as four grand juries have found,
    the strength of the evidence against him merits it. If we fail to hold
    him fully accountable under the law, the precedent will embolden future
    presidents to break the law, jeopardize national security, incite
    insurrections, and possibly even overturn an election.

    The principle that no one is above the law is only true if we make it
    so.

    So did you dream about him last night?

    All that damning evidence, and you choose to
    "whistle past the graveyard"?

    Now that's chutzpah!

    --
    -c

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 21 20:52:05 2023
    In article <btUEM.126376$QQFb.58606@fx38.iad>, creon@creon.earth says...

    On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 19:25:55 -0600, Skeeter wrote:

    In article <4bd49159-11d2-42f2-b958-bcf1f7a246a0n@googlegroups.com>, davidbrown20782@gmail.com says...

    rump?s defenders are still lying about his indictments. Here are 5
    crucial facts you can share with whoever in your life needs to hear
    them.

    1. President Biden did not indict Trump.

    Four different grand juries ? made up of ordinary citizens ? indicted
    Trump after being presented with evidence they found compelling enough
    to warrant criminal prosecution.

    The reason we have grand juries is specifically to help make sure no
    one gets prosecuted out of a personal vendetta.

    2. This isn?t about ?free speech?

    In all four cases, Trump has been indicted because of what he allegedly
    did, not what he said. Lots of crimes involve speech, but that doesn?t
    stop them from being crimes. Even Trump?s hand-picked attorney general,
    Bill Barr, recognizes this defense is nonsense.

    3. It doesn?t matter whether Trump believed the election was stolen

    There?s plenty of evidence that Trump knew he lost the election fair
    and square. His claims of massive fraud were rejected by his own
    campaign manager, White House lawyers, and his hand-picked Justice
    Department officials.

    And privately, Trump seemed to admit that he either knew or didn?t care
    that his claims were false, allegedly criticizing VP Pence for being
    ?too honest,? and allegedly admitting to his Chief of Staff Mark
    Meadows that he lost and wanted to cover it up.

    But even if Trump really did believe the election was stolen, that
    doesn?t give him the right to allegedly commit a criminal conspiracy to
    try to steal it back.

    4. Trump has received preferential treatment because of who he is.

    Trump?s defenders complain about a two-tiered justice system.

    They?re right about that, but not in the way they claim. Trump has been
    given special privileges most criminal defendants would never get.

    In all four criminal cases, he has been released without bail. He has
    repeatedly been spared the indignity of a mugshot. He has not had his
    passport suspended or had limits placed on his ability to travel ? even
    though two of his criminal cases involve direct threats to national
    security, and even though he has used social media to issue insults and
    threats against potential witnesses, behavior that would cause many
    criminal defendants to be held without bail pending
    trial.

    5. Trump was in legal trouble long before entering politics

    Some of Trump?s defenders claim the sheer number of criminal charges
    and civil suits he?s now facing is proof that he?s being targeted for
    political reasons. But you have to remember that Trump was the subject
    of about 4,000 legal actions before ever running for president. From
    his fraudulent Trump University scam to federal lawsuits over racist
    housing discrimination, Trump has spent his life in court because of
    his own shady behavior.

    Trump is being prosecuted now because, as four grand juries have found,
    the strength of the evidence against him merits it. If we fail to hold
    him fully accountable under the law, the precedent will embolden future
    presidents to break the law, jeopardize national security, incite
    insurrections, and possibly even overturn an election.

    The principle that no one is above the law is only true if we make it
    so.

    So did you dream about him last night?

    All that damning evidence, and you choose to
    "whistle past the graveyard"?

    Now that's chutzpah!

    I don't know what that is. Only you all seem concerned.

    --

    "Go Peacefully"

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  • From Freezer@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 22 17:15:10 2023
    If I don't reply to this Creon post, the terroists win.

    All that damning evidence, and you choose to
    "whistle past the graveyard"?

    Now that's chutzpah!

    When the evidence is against you, pound on the law.

    When the law is against you, pound on the evidence.

    When both are against you, pound the table and claim "conspiracy."

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  • From Freezer@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 22 17:16:30 2023
    If I don't reply to this Davey Zimmerman #274 post, the terroists
    win.

    Jason needs to give proper attribution.

    https://robertreich.org/post/726273697776795648

    If all you got against what JTodd posted is the original source,
    you got nothing, Slappy.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 22 11:32:29 2023
    In article <XnsB0687CDDA1624freezer88hotmailcom@95.217.65.137>, freezer88@hotSPAMTHISmail.com says...

    If I don't reply to this Davey Zimmerman #274 post, the terroists
    win.

    Jason needs to give proper attribution.

    https://robertreich.org/post/726273697776795648

    If all you got against what JTodd posted is the original source,
    you got nothing, Slappy.

    Oh the irony coming from a cowardly snipping fool.

    --

    "Go Peacefully"

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 22 11:31:48 2023
    In article <XnsB0687CA3BB590freezer88hotmailcom@95.217.65.137>, freezer88@hotSPAMTHISmail.com says...

    If I don't reply to this Creon post, the terroists win.

    All that damning evidence, and you choose to
    "whistle past the graveyard"?

    Now that's chutzpah!

    When the evidence is against you, pound on the law.

    When the law is against you, pound on the evidence.

    When both are against you, pound the table and claim "conspiracy."

    When you know your side can't win destroy the opposition.

    --

    "Go Peacefully"

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  • From Freezer@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 22 17:17:34 2023
    If I don't reply to this Skeeter post, the terroists win.

    Now that's chutzpah!

    I don't know what that is.

    Of course you don't, bless your heart. *pats on head*

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  • From Lou Proctor@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Tue Aug 22 14:17:25 2023
    On 2023-08-22 02:52:05 +0000, Skeeter said:

    In article <btUEM.126376$QQFb.58606@fx38.iad>, creon@creon.earth says...

    On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 19:25:55 -0600, Skeeter wrote:

    In article <4bd49159-11d2-42f2-b958-bcf1f7a246a0n@googlegroups.com>,
    davidbrown20782@gmail.com says...

    rump?s defenders are still lying about his indictments. Here are 5
    crucial facts you can share with whoever in your life needs to hear
    them.

    1. President Biden did not indict Trump.

    Four different grand juries ? made up of ordinary citizens ? indicted
    Trump after being presented with evidence they found compelling enough >>>> to warrant criminal prosecution.

    The reason we have grand juries is specifically to help make sure no
    one gets prosecuted out of a personal vendetta.

    2. This isn?t about ?free speech?

    In all four cases, Trump has been indicted because of what he allegedly >>>> did, not what he said. Lots of crimes involve speech, but that doesn?t >>>> stop them from being crimes. Even Trump?s hand-picked attorney general, >>>> Bill Barr, recognizes this defense is nonsense.

    3. It doesn?t matter whether Trump believed the election was stolen

    There?s plenty of evidence that Trump knew he lost the election fair
    and square. His claims of massive fraud were rejected by his own
    campaign manager, White House lawyers, and his hand-picked Justice
    Department officials.

    And privately, Trump seemed to admit that he either knew or didn?t care >>>> that his claims were false, allegedly criticizing VP Pence for being
    ?too honest,? and allegedly admitting to his Chief of Staff Mark
    Meadows that he lost and wanted to cover it up.

    But even if Trump really did believe the election was stolen, that
    doesn?t give him the right to allegedly commit a criminal conspiracy to >>>> try to steal it back.

    4. Trump has received preferential treatment because of who he is.

    Trump?s defenders complain about a two-tiered justice system.

    They?re right about that, but not in the way they claim. Trump has been >>>> given special privileges most criminal defendants would never get.

    In all four criminal cases, he has been released without bail. He has
    repeatedly been spared the indignity of a mugshot. He has not had his
    passport suspended or had limits placed on his ability to travel ? even >>>> though two of his criminal cases involve direct threats to national
    security, and even though he has used social media to issue insults and >>>> threats against potential witnesses, behavior that would cause many
    criminal defendants to be held without bail pending
    trial.

    5. Trump was in legal trouble long before entering politics

    Some of Trump?s defenders claim the sheer number of criminal charges
    and civil suits he?s now facing is proof that he?s being targeted for
    political reasons. But you have to remember that Trump was the subject >>>> of about 4,000 legal actions before ever running for president. From
    his fraudulent Trump University scam to federal lawsuits over racist
    housing discrimination, Trump has spent his life in court because of
    his own shady behavior.

    Trump is being prosecuted now because, as four grand juries have found, >>>> the strength of the evidence against him merits it. If we fail to hold >>>> him fully accountable under the law, the precedent will embolden future >>>> presidents to break the law, jeopardize national security, incite
    insurrections, and possibly even overturn an election.

    The principle that no one is above the law is only true if we make it
    so.

    So did you dream about him last night?

    All that damning evidence, and you choose to
    "whistle past the graveyard"?

    Now that's chutzpah!

    I don't know what that is. Only you all seem concerned.

    You don't know anything, you stupid junkie asshole.

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  • From %@21:1/5 to Lou Proctor on Tue Aug 22 14:22:39 2023
    Lou Proctor wrote:
    On 2023-08-22 02:52:05 +0000, Skeeter said:

    In article <btUEM.126376$QQFb.58606@fx38.iad>, creon@creon.earth says...

    On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 19:25:55 -0600, Skeeter wrote:

    In article <4bd49159-11d2-42f2-b958-bcf1f7a246a0n@googlegroups.com>,
    davidbrown20782@gmail.com says...

    rump?s defenders are still lying about his indictments. Here are 5
    crucial facts you can share with whoever in your life needs to hear
    them.

    1. President Biden did not indict Trump.

    Four different grand juries ? made up of ordinary citizens ? indicted >>>>> Trump after being presented with evidence they found compelling enough >>>>> to warrant criminal prosecution.

    The reason we have grand juries is specifically to help make sure no >>>>> one gets prosecuted out of a personal vendetta.

    2. This isn?t about ?free speech?

    In all four cases, Trump has been indicted because of what he
    allegedly
    did, not what he said. Lots of crimes involve speech, but that doesn?t >>>>> stop them from being crimes. Even Trump?s hand-picked attorney
    general,
    Bill Barr, recognizes this defense is nonsense.

    3. It doesn?t matter whether Trump believed the election was stolen

    There?s plenty of evidence that Trump knew he lost the election fair >>>>> and square. His claims of massive fraud were rejected by his own
    campaign manager, White House lawyers, and his hand-picked Justice
    Department officials.

    And privately, Trump seemed to admit that he either knew or didn?t
    care
    that his claims were false, allegedly criticizing VP Pence for being >>>>> ?too honest,? and allegedly admitting to his Chief of Staff Mark
    Meadows that he lost and wanted to cover it up.

    But even if Trump really did believe the election was stolen, that
    doesn?t give him the right to allegedly commit a criminal
    conspiracy to
    try to steal it back.

    4. Trump has received preferential treatment because of who he is.

    Trump?s defenders complain about a two-tiered justice system.

    They?re right about that, but not in the way they claim. Trump has
    been
    given special privileges most criminal defendants would never get.

    In all four criminal cases, he has been released without bail. He has >>>>> repeatedly been spared the indignity of a mugshot. He has not had his >>>>> passport suspended or had limits placed on his ability to travel ?
    even
    though two of his criminal cases involve direct threats to national
    security, and even though he has used social media to issue insults
    and
    threats against potential witnesses, behavior that would cause many
    criminal defendants to be held without bail pending
    trial.

    5. Trump was in legal trouble long before entering politics

    Some of Trump?s defenders claim the sheer number of criminal charges >>>>> and civil suits he?s now facing is proof that he?s being targeted for >>>>> political reasons. But you have to remember that Trump was the subject >>>>> of about 4,000 legal actions before ever running for president. From >>>>> his fraudulent Trump University scam to federal lawsuits over racist >>>>> housing discrimination, Trump has spent his life in court because of >>>>> his own shady behavior.

    Trump is being prosecuted now because, as four grand juries have
    found,
    the strength of the evidence against him merits it. If we fail to hold >>>>> him fully accountable under the law, the precedent will embolden
    future
    presidents to break the law, jeopardize national security, incite
    insurrections, and possibly even overturn an election.

    The principle that no one is above the law is only true if we make it >>>>> so.

    So did you dream about him last night?

    All that damning evidence, and you choose to
    "whistle past the graveyard"?

    Now that's chutzpah!

    I don't know what that is. Only you all seem concerned.

    You don't know anything, you stupid junkie asshole.


    https://imgur.com/a/2P1FQ5g yay

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  • From Freezer@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 22 18:48:43 2023
    If I don't reply to this Skeeter post, the terroists win.

    When both are against you, pound the table and claim
    "conspiracy."

    When you know your side can't win destroy the opposition.

    At this point either you don't know you're projecting or you don't
    care.

    Its pathetic, either way.

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  • From Freezer@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 22 18:49:33 2023
    If I don't reply to this Skeeter post, the terroists win.

    In article <XnsB0687D0BAA556freezer88hotmailcom@95.217.65.137>, freezer88@hotSPAMTHISmail.com says...

    If I don't reply to this Skeeter post, the terroists win.

    Now that's chutzpah!

    I don't know what that is.

    Of course you don't, bless your heart. *pats on head*

    Was that an insult? You really suck at this.


    Just because you didn't understand doesn't mean you weren't
    insulted.

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  • From Davey Zimmerman #274@21:1/5 to Freezer on Tue Aug 22 19:56:54 2023
    Freezer <freezer88@hotSPAMTHISmail.com> wrote in news:XnsB0687CDDA1624freezer88hotmailcom@95.217.65.137:

    If I don't reply to this Davey Zimmerman #274 post, the terroists
    win.

    <F'loser snips Jason.>

    Jason needs to give proper attribution.

    https://robertreich.org/post/726273697776795648

    If all you got against what JTodd posted is the original source,
    you got nothing, Slappy.

    I didn't have anything against what he posted. Where did you get that
    idea, F'loser? Perhaps you need a remedial reading course, Snipboi.

    Are you trying to claim that attribution isn't important? It was done to establish credibility. I guess since you have none it's easy to
    overlook.

    And why did you snip the content below? Damn, you're fucking stupid.

    <unsnip>
    "Robert Reich's writes at robertreich.substack.com. His latest book is
    "THE SYSTEM: Who Rigged It, How To Fix It." He is Chancellor's Professor
    of Public Policy at the University of California at Berkeley and Senior
    Fellow at the Blum Center. He served as Secretary of Labor in the
    Clinton administration, for which Time Magazine named him one of the 10
    most effective cabinet secretaries of the twentieth century. He has
    written 17 other books, including the best sellers "Aftershock,""The
    Work of Nations," "Beyond Outrage," and "The Common Good." He is a
    founding editor of the American Prospect magazine, founder of Inequality
    Media, a member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, and
    co-creator of the award-winning documentaries "Inequality For All,"
    streaming on YouTube, and "Saving Capitalism," now streaming on
    Netflix."
    </unsnip>

    The "Fucktard F'loser Flail and Fail" strikes again! That's "4F" for
    those of you who remember the military draft.

    You can run away again, dumbass.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 22 14:46:19 2023
    In article <XnsB0688C8084019freezer88hotmailcom@95.217.65.137>, freezer88@hotSPAMTHISmail.com says...

    If I don't reply to this Skeeter post, the terroists win.

    When both are against you, pound the table and claim
    "conspiracy."

    When you know your side can't win destroy the opposition.

    At this point either you don't know you're projecting or you don't
    care.

    Its pathetic, either way.

    Who are we destroying?

    --

    "Go Peacefully"

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 22 14:45:18 2023
    In article <2023082214172524932-louproctor@aol.com>, louproctor@aol.com
    says...

    On 2023-08-22 02:52:05 +0000, Skeeter said:

    In article <btUEM.126376$QQFb.58606@fx38.iad>, creon@creon.earth says...

    On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 19:25:55 -0600, Skeeter wrote:

    In article <4bd49159-11d2-42f2-b958-bcf1f7a246a0n@googlegroups.com>,
    davidbrown20782@gmail.com says...

    rump?s defenders are still lying about his indictments. Here are 5
    crucial facts you can share with whoever in your life needs to hear
    them.

    1. President Biden did not indict Trump.

    Four different grand juries ? made up of ordinary citizens ? indicted >>>> Trump after being presented with evidence they found compelling enough >>>> to warrant criminal prosecution.

    The reason we have grand juries is specifically to help make sure no >>>> one gets prosecuted out of a personal vendetta.

    2. This isn?t about ?free speech?

    In all four cases, Trump has been indicted because of what he allegedly >>>> did, not what he said. Lots of crimes involve speech, but that doesn?t >>>> stop them from being crimes. Even Trump?s hand-picked attorney general, >>>> Bill Barr, recognizes this defense is nonsense.

    3. It doesn?t matter whether Trump believed the election was stolen

    There?s plenty of evidence that Trump knew he lost the election fair >>>> and square. His claims of massive fraud were rejected by his own
    campaign manager, White House lawyers, and his hand-picked Justice
    Department officials.

    And privately, Trump seemed to admit that he either knew or didn?t care >>>> that his claims were false, allegedly criticizing VP Pence for being >>>> ?too honest,? and allegedly admitting to his Chief of Staff Mark
    Meadows that he lost and wanted to cover it up.

    But even if Trump really did believe the election was stolen, that
    doesn?t give him the right to allegedly commit a criminal conspiracy to >>>> try to steal it back.

    4. Trump has received preferential treatment because of who he is.

    Trump?s defenders complain about a two-tiered justice system.

    They?re right about that, but not in the way they claim. Trump has been >>>> given special privileges most criminal defendants would never get.

    In all four criminal cases, he has been released without bail. He has >>>> repeatedly been spared the indignity of a mugshot. He has not had his >>>> passport suspended or had limits placed on his ability to travel ? even >>>> though two of his criminal cases involve direct threats to national
    security, and even though he has used social media to issue insults and >>>> threats against potential witnesses, behavior that would cause many
    criminal defendants to be held without bail pending
    trial.

    5. Trump was in legal trouble long before entering politics

    Some of Trump?s defenders claim the sheer number of criminal charges >>>> and civil suits he?s now facing is proof that he?s being targeted for >>>> political reasons. But you have to remember that Trump was the subject >>>> of about 4,000 legal actions before ever running for president. From >>>> his fraudulent Trump University scam to federal lawsuits over racist >>>> housing discrimination, Trump has spent his life in court because of >>>> his own shady behavior.

    Trump is being prosecuted now because, as four grand juries have found, >>>> the strength of the evidence against him merits it. If we fail to hold >>>> him fully accountable under the law, the precedent will embolden future >>>> presidents to break the law, jeopardize national security, incite
    insurrections, and possibly even overturn an election.

    The principle that no one is above the law is only true if we make it >>>> so.

    So did you dream about him last night?

    All that damning evidence, and you choose to
    "whistle past the graveyard"?

    Now that's chutzpah!

    I don't know what that is. Only you all seem concerned.

    You don't know anything, you stupid junkie asshole.

    Did you see me slap Chad outta here?

    --

    "Go Peacefully"

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 22 14:47:00 2023
    In article <XnsB0688CA51FFEDfreezer88hotmailcom@95.217.65.137>, freezer88@hotSPAMTHISmail.com says...

    If I don't reply to this Skeeter post, the terroists win.

    In article <XnsB0687D0BAA556freezer88hotmailcom@95.217.65.137>, freezer88@hotSPAMTHISmail.com says...

    If I don't reply to this Skeeter post, the terroists win.

    Now that's chutzpah!

    I don't know what that is.

    Of course you don't, bless your heart. *pats on head*

    Was that an insult? You really suck at this.


    Just because you didn't understand doesn't mean you weren't
    insulted.

    In able for that to work I first have to care about your opinion.

    --

    "Go Peacefully"

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  • From Freezer@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 22 22:22:20 2023
    If I don't reply to this Skeeter post, the terroists win.

    Who are we destroying?

    Immigrants.
    Trans people.
    Pregnant women.

    For starters...

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  • From Freezer@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 22 22:24:05 2023
    If I don't reply to this Davey Zimmerman #274 post, the
    terroists win.

    I didn't have anything against what he posted. Where did you
    get that idea, F'loser?

    Then why did you post a bio that was almost as large as JTodd's
    post, if not to discredit the source?

    Lie to someone who don't know better, Wish.com Metzer.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 22 17:12:21 2023
    In article <XnsB068B10455C93freezer88hotmailcom@95.217.65.137>, freezer88@hotSPAMTHISmail.com says...

    If I don't reply to this Davey Zimmerman #274 post, the
    terroists win.

    I didn't have anything against what he posted. Where did you
    get that idea, F'loser?

    Then why did you post a bio that was almost as large as JTodd's
    post, if not to discredit the source?

    Lie to someone who don't know better, Wish.com Metzer.

    You get kind of looney when you get slapped.

    --

    "Go Peacefully"

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 22 17:11:30 2023
    In article <XnsB068B0B816F03freezer88hotmailcom@95.217.65.137>, freezer88@hotSPAMTHISmail.com says...

    If I don't reply to this Skeeter post, the terroists win.

    Who are we destroying?

    Immigrants.


    They are allowed. But you come in legally and allow us to know who you
    are.

    Trans people.

    Not trying to destroy. Just shut up about it.

    Pregnant women.

    For starters...

    Pregnant women?

    --

    "Go Peacefully"

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    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Davey Zimmerman #274@21:1/5 to Freezer on Tue Aug 22 23:20:40 2023
    Freezer <freezer88@hotSPAMTHISmail.com> wrote in news:XnsB068B10455C93freezer88hotmailcom@95.217.65.137:

    If I don't reply to this Davey Zimmerman #274 post, the
    terroists win.

    I didn't have anything against what he posted. Where did you
    get that idea, F'loser?

    Then why did you post a bio that was almost as large as JTodd's
    post, if not to discredit the source?

    To show that he's a credible and real person, F'loser. Unlike you, I
    don't snip out everything that shows how shit stupid you are, dumbfuck.

    Lie to someone who don't know better, Wish.com Metzer.

    You certainly don't. You just proved it. You even doubled down on
    stupid.

    PS: Who is "Metzer", you incoherent fool?


    <your apology goes here, F'loser!>

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  • From %@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Tue Aug 22 17:56:59 2023
    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <2023082220352774618-louproctor@aol.com>, louproctor@aol.com says...

    On 2023-08-22 20:45:18 +0000, Skeeter said:

    In article <2023082214172524932-louproctor@aol.com>, louproctor@aol.com
    says...

    On 2023-08-22 02:52:05 +0000, Skeeter said:

    In article <btUEM.126376$QQFb.58606@fx38.iad>, creon@creon.earth says... >>>>>>
    On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 19:25:55 -0600, Skeeter wrote:

    In article <4bd49159-11d2-42f2-b958-bcf1f7a246a0n@googlegroups.com>, >>>>>>> davidbrown20782@gmail.com says...

    rump?s defenders are still lying about his indictments. Here are 5 >>>>>>>> crucial facts you can share with whoever in your life needs to hear >>>>>>>> them.

    1. President Biden did not indict Trump.

    Four different grand juries ? made up of ordinary citizens ? indicted >>>>>>>> Trump after being presented with evidence they found compelling enough >>>>>>>> to warrant criminal prosecution.

    The reason we have grand juries is specifically to help make sure no >>>>>>>> one gets prosecuted out of a personal vendetta.

    2. This isn?t about ?free speech?

    In all four cases, Trump has been indicted because of what he allegedly
    did, not what he said. Lots of crimes involve speech, but that doesn?t >>>>>>>> stop them from being crimes. Even Trump?s hand-picked attorney general,
    Bill Barr, recognizes this defense is nonsense.

    3. It doesn?t matter whether Trump believed the election was stolen >>>>>>>>
    There?s plenty of evidence that Trump knew he lost the election fair >>>>>>>> and square. His claims of massive fraud were rejected by his own >>>>>>>> campaign manager, White House lawyers, and his hand-picked Justice >>>>>>>> Department officials.

    And privately, Trump seemed to admit that he either knew or didn?t care
    that his claims were false, allegedly criticizing VP Pence for being >>>>>>>> ?too honest,? and allegedly admitting to his Chief of Staff Mark >>>>>>>> Meadows that he lost and wanted to cover it up.

    But even if Trump really did believe the election was stolen, that >>>>>>>> doesn?t give him the right to allegedly commit a criminal conspiracy to
    try to steal it back.

    4. Trump has received preferential treatment because of who he is. >>>>>>>>
    Trump?s defenders complain about a two-tiered justice system.

    They?re right about that, but not in the way they claim. Trump has been
    given special privileges most criminal defendants would never get. >>>>>>>>
    In all four criminal cases, he has been released without bail. He has >>>>>>>> repeatedly been spared the indignity of a mugshot. He has not had his >>>>>>>> passport suspended or had limits placed on his ability to travel ? even
    though two of his criminal cases involve direct threats to national >>>>>>>> security, and even though he has used social media to issue insults and
    threats against potential witnesses, behavior that would cause many >>>>>>>> criminal defendants to be held without bail pending
    trial.

    5. Trump was in legal trouble long before entering politics

    Some of Trump?s defenders claim the sheer number of criminal charges >>>>>>>> and civil suits he?s now facing is proof that he?s being targeted for >>>>>>>> political reasons. But you have to remember that Trump was the subject >>>>>>>> of about 4,000 legal actions before ever running for president. From >>>>>>>> his fraudulent Trump University scam to federal lawsuits over racist >>>>>>>> housing discrimination, Trump has spent his life in court because of >>>>>>>> his own shady behavior.

    Trump is being prosecuted now because, as four grand juries have found,
    the strength of the evidence against him merits it. If we fail to hold >>>>>>>> him fully accountable under the law, the precedent will embolden future
    presidents to break the law, jeopardize national security, incite >>>>>>>> insurrections, and possibly even overturn an election.

    The principle that no one is above the law is only true if we make it >>>>>>>> so.

    So did you dream about him last night?

    All that damning evidence, and you choose to
    "whistle past the graveyard"?

    Now that's chutzpah!

    I don't know what that is. Only you all seem concerned.

    You don't know anything, you stupid junkie asshole.

    Did you see me slap Chad outta here?

    Chad owns you, drug addict. Cry for him some more.

    Oh he left here running like the best part of you ran down your mothers
    leg.


    who's pou loctor

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  • From Lou Proctor@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Tue Aug 22 20:35:27 2023
    On 2023-08-22 20:45:18 +0000, Skeeter said:

    In article <2023082214172524932-louproctor@aol.com>, louproctor@aol.com says...

    On 2023-08-22 02:52:05 +0000, Skeeter said:

    In article <btUEM.126376$QQFb.58606@fx38.iad>, creon@creon.earth says... >>>>
    On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 19:25:55 -0600, Skeeter wrote:

    In article <4bd49159-11d2-42f2-b958-bcf1f7a246a0n@googlegroups.com>, >>>>> davidbrown20782@gmail.com says...

    rump?s defenders are still lying about his indictments. Here are 5 >>>>>> crucial facts you can share with whoever in your life needs to hear >>>>>> them.

    1. President Biden did not indict Trump.

    Four different grand juries ? made up of ordinary citizens ? indicted >>>>>> Trump after being presented with evidence they found compelling enough >>>>>> to warrant criminal prosecution.

    The reason we have grand juries is specifically to help make sure no >>>>>> one gets prosecuted out of a personal vendetta.

    2. This isn?t about ?free speech?

    In all four cases, Trump has been indicted because of what he allegedly >>>>>> did, not what he said. Lots of crimes involve speech, but that doesn?t >>>>>> stop them from being crimes. Even Trump?s hand-picked attorney general, >>>>>> Bill Barr, recognizes this defense is nonsense.

    3. It doesn?t matter whether Trump believed the election was stolen >>>>>>
    There?s plenty of evidence that Trump knew he lost the election fair >>>>>> and square. His claims of massive fraud were rejected by his own
    campaign manager, White House lawyers, and his hand-picked Justice >>>>>> Department officials.

    And privately, Trump seemed to admit that he either knew or didn?t care >>>>>> that his claims were false, allegedly criticizing VP Pence for being >>>>>> ?too honest,? and allegedly admitting to his Chief of Staff Mark
    Meadows that he lost and wanted to cover it up.

    But even if Trump really did believe the election was stolen, that >>>>>> doesn?t give him the right to allegedly commit a criminal conspiracy to >>>>>> try to steal it back.

    4. Trump has received preferential treatment because of who he is. >>>>>>
    Trump?s defenders complain about a two-tiered justice system.

    They?re right about that, but not in the way they claim. Trump has been >>>>>> given special privileges most criminal defendants would never get. >>>>>>
    In all four criminal cases, he has been released without bail. He has >>>>>> repeatedly been spared the indignity of a mugshot. He has not had his >>>>>> passport suspended or had limits placed on his ability to travel ? even >>>>>> though two of his criminal cases involve direct threats to national >>>>>> security, and even though he has used social media to issue insults and >>>>>> threats against potential witnesses, behavior that would cause many >>>>>> criminal defendants to be held without bail pending
    trial.

    5. Trump was in legal trouble long before entering politics

    Some of Trump?s defenders claim the sheer number of criminal charges >>>>>> and civil suits he?s now facing is proof that he?s being targeted for >>>>>> political reasons. But you have to remember that Trump was the subject >>>>>> of about 4,000 legal actions before ever running for president. From >>>>>> his fraudulent Trump University scam to federal lawsuits over racist >>>>>> housing discrimination, Trump has spent his life in court because of >>>>>> his own shady behavior.

    Trump is being prosecuted now because, as four grand juries have found, >>>>>> the strength of the evidence against him merits it. If we fail to hold >>>>>> him fully accountable under the law, the precedent will embolden future >>>>>> presidents to break the law, jeopardize national security, incite
    insurrections, and possibly even overturn an election.

    The principle that no one is above the law is only true if we make it >>>>>> so.

    So did you dream about him last night?

    All that damning evidence, and you choose to
    "whistle past the graveyard"?

    Now that's chutzpah!

    I don't know what that is. Only you all seem concerned.

    You don't know anything, you stupid junkie asshole.

    Did you see me slap Chad outta here?

    Chad owns you, drug addict. Cry for him some more.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 22 18:48:17 2023
    In article <2023082220352774618-louproctor@aol.com>, louproctor@aol.com
    says...

    On 2023-08-22 20:45:18 +0000, Skeeter said:

    In article <2023082214172524932-louproctor@aol.com>, louproctor@aol.com says...

    On 2023-08-22 02:52:05 +0000, Skeeter said:

    In article <btUEM.126376$QQFb.58606@fx38.iad>, creon@creon.earth says... >>>>
    On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 19:25:55 -0600, Skeeter wrote:

    In article <4bd49159-11d2-42f2-b958-bcf1f7a246a0n@googlegroups.com>, >>>>> davidbrown20782@gmail.com says...

    rump?s defenders are still lying about his indictments. Here are 5 >>>>>> crucial facts you can share with whoever in your life needs to hear >>>>>> them.

    1. President Biden did not indict Trump.

    Four different grand juries ? made up of ordinary citizens ? indicted >>>>>> Trump after being presented with evidence they found compelling enough >>>>>> to warrant criminal prosecution.

    The reason we have grand juries is specifically to help make sure no >>>>>> one gets prosecuted out of a personal vendetta.

    2. This isn?t about ?free speech?

    In all four cases, Trump has been indicted because of what he allegedly
    did, not what he said. Lots of crimes involve speech, but that doesn?t >>>>>> stop them from being crimes. Even Trump?s hand-picked attorney general,
    Bill Barr, recognizes this defense is nonsense.

    3. It doesn?t matter whether Trump believed the election was stolen >>>>>>
    There?s plenty of evidence that Trump knew he lost the election fair >>>>>> and square. His claims of massive fraud were rejected by his own >>>>>> campaign manager, White House lawyers, and his hand-picked Justice >>>>>> Department officials.

    And privately, Trump seemed to admit that he either knew or didn?t care
    that his claims were false, allegedly criticizing VP Pence for being >>>>>> ?too honest,? and allegedly admitting to his Chief of Staff Mark >>>>>> Meadows that he lost and wanted to cover it up.

    But even if Trump really did believe the election was stolen, that >>>>>> doesn?t give him the right to allegedly commit a criminal conspiracy to
    try to steal it back.

    4. Trump has received preferential treatment because of who he is. >>>>>>
    Trump?s defenders complain about a two-tiered justice system.

    They?re right about that, but not in the way they claim. Trump has been
    given special privileges most criminal defendants would never get. >>>>>>
    In all four criminal cases, he has been released without bail. He has >>>>>> repeatedly been spared the indignity of a mugshot. He has not had his >>>>>> passport suspended or had limits placed on his ability to travel ? even
    though two of his criminal cases involve direct threats to national >>>>>> security, and even though he has used social media to issue insults and
    threats against potential witnesses, behavior that would cause many >>>>>> criminal defendants to be held without bail pending
    trial.

    5. Trump was in legal trouble long before entering politics

    Some of Trump?s defenders claim the sheer number of criminal charges >>>>>> and civil suits he?s now facing is proof that he?s being targeted for >>>>>> political reasons. But you have to remember that Trump was the subject >>>>>> of about 4,000 legal actions before ever running for president. From >>>>>> his fraudulent Trump University scam to federal lawsuits over racist >>>>>> housing discrimination, Trump has spent his life in court because of >>>>>> his own shady behavior.

    Trump is being prosecuted now because, as four grand juries have found,
    the strength of the evidence against him merits it. If we fail to hold >>>>>> him fully accountable under the law, the precedent will embolden future
    presidents to break the law, jeopardize national security, incite >>>>>> insurrections, and possibly even overturn an election.

    The principle that no one is above the law is only true if we make it >>>>>> so.

    So did you dream about him last night?

    All that damning evidence, and you choose to
    "whistle past the graveyard"?

    Now that's chutzpah!

    I don't know what that is. Only you all seem concerned.

    You don't know anything, you stupid junkie asshole.

    Did you see me slap Chad outta here?

    Chad owns you, drug addict. Cry for him some more.

    Oh he left here running like the best part of you ran down your mothers
    leg.

    --

    "Go Peacefully"

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 22 19:04:17 2023
    In article <ryKdnW2Jz_rBxHj5nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com>, pursent100 @gmail.com says...

    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <2023082220352774618-louproctor@aol.com>, louproctor@aol.com says...

    On 2023-08-22 20:45:18 +0000, Skeeter said:

    In article <2023082214172524932-louproctor@aol.com>, louproctor@aol.com >>> says...

    On 2023-08-22 02:52:05 +0000, Skeeter said:

    In article <btUEM.126376$QQFb.58606@fx38.iad>, creon@creon.earth says...

    On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 19:25:55 -0600, Skeeter wrote:

    In article <4bd49159-11d2-42f2-b958-bcf1f7a246a0n@googlegroups.com>, >>>>>>> davidbrown20782@gmail.com says...

    rump?s defenders are still lying about his indictments. Here are 5 >>>>>>>> crucial facts you can share with whoever in your life needs to hear >>>>>>>> them.

    1. President Biden did not indict Trump.

    Four different grand juries ? made up of ordinary citizens ? indicted
    Trump after being presented with evidence they found compelling enough
    to warrant criminal prosecution.

    The reason we have grand juries is specifically to help make sure no >>>>>>>> one gets prosecuted out of a personal vendetta.

    2. This isn?t about ?free speech?

    In all four cases, Trump has been indicted because of what he allegedly
    did, not what he said. Lots of crimes involve speech, but that doesn?t
    stop them from being crimes. Even Trump?s hand-picked attorney general,
    Bill Barr, recognizes this defense is nonsense.

    3. It doesn?t matter whether Trump believed the election was stolen >>>>>>>>
    There?s plenty of evidence that Trump knew he lost the election fair >>>>>>>> and square. His claims of massive fraud were rejected by his own >>>>>>>> campaign manager, White House lawyers, and his hand-picked Justice >>>>>>>> Department officials.

    And privately, Trump seemed to admit that he either knew or didn?t care
    that his claims were false, allegedly criticizing VP Pence for being >>>>>>>> ?too honest,? and allegedly admitting to his Chief of Staff Mark >>>>>>>> Meadows that he lost and wanted to cover it up.

    But even if Trump really did believe the election was stolen, that >>>>>>>> doesn?t give him the right to allegedly commit a criminal conspiracy to
    try to steal it back.

    4. Trump has received preferential treatment because of who he is. >>>>>>>>
    Trump?s defenders complain about a two-tiered justice system. >>>>>>>>
    They?re right about that, but not in the way they claim. Trump has been
    given special privileges most criminal defendants would never get. >>>>>>>>
    In all four criminal cases, he has been released without bail. He has
    repeatedly been spared the indignity of a mugshot. He has not had his
    passport suspended or had limits placed on his ability to travel ? even
    though two of his criminal cases involve direct threats to national >>>>>>>> security, and even though he has used social media to issue insults and
    threats against potential witnesses, behavior that would cause many >>>>>>>> criminal defendants to be held without bail pending
    trial.

    5. Trump was in legal trouble long before entering politics

    Some of Trump?s defenders claim the sheer number of criminal charges >>>>>>>> and civil suits he?s now facing is proof that he?s being targeted for
    political reasons. But you have to remember that Trump was the subject
    of about 4,000 legal actions before ever running for president. From >>>>>>>> his fraudulent Trump University scam to federal lawsuits over racist >>>>>>>> housing discrimination, Trump has spent his life in court because of >>>>>>>> his own shady behavior.

    Trump is being prosecuted now because, as four grand juries have found,
    the strength of the evidence against him merits it. If we fail to hold
    him fully accountable under the law, the precedent will embolden future
    presidents to break the law, jeopardize national security, incite >>>>>>>> insurrections, and possibly even overturn an election.

    The principle that no one is above the law is only true if we make it
    so.

    So did you dream about him last night?

    All that damning evidence, and you choose to
    "whistle past the graveyard"?

    Now that's chutzpah!

    I don't know what that is. Only you all seem concerned.

    You don't know anything, you stupid junkie asshole.

    Did you see me slap Chad outta here?

    Chad owns you, drug addict. Cry for him some more.

    Oh he left here running like the best part of you ran down your mothers leg.


    who's pou loctor

    Chad sock.

    --

    "Go Peacefully"

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  • From ]v[etaphoid@21:1/5 to Freezer on Wed Aug 23 10:12:10 2023
    Freezer <freezer88@hotSPAMTHISmail.com> wrote:
    If I don't reply to this Davey Zimmerman #274 post, the
    terroists win.

    I didn't have anything against what he posted. Where did you
    get that idea, F'loser?

    Then why did you post a bio that was almost as large as JTodd's
    post, if not to discredit the source?

    Lie to someone who don't know better, Wish.com Metzer.


    Don’t ever accuse anyone in this group of being a liar.

    We all know which perpetual victim the cap fits, Pathological…

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  • From ]v[etaphoid@21:1/5 to Lou Proctor on Wed Aug 23 09:37:28 2023
    Lou Proctor <louproctor@aol.com> wrote:
    On 2023-08-22 20:45:18 +0000, Skeeter said:

    In article <2023082214172524932-louproctor@aol.com>, louproctor@aol.com
    says...

    On 2023-08-22 02:52:05 +0000, Skeeter said:

    In article <btUEM.126376$QQFb.58606@fx38.iad>, creon@creon.earth says... >>>>>
    On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 19:25:55 -0600, Skeeter wrote:

    In article <4bd49159-11d2-42f2-b958-bcf1f7a246a0n@googlegroups.com>, >>>>>> davidbrown20782@gmail.com says...

    rump?s defenders are still lying about his indictments. Here are 5 >>>>>>> crucial facts you can share with whoever in your life needs to hear >>>>>>> them.

    1. President Biden did not indict Trump.

    Four different grand juries ? made up of ordinary citizens ? indicted >>>>>>> Trump after being presented with evidence they found compelling enough >>>>>>> to warrant criminal prosecution.

    The reason we have grand juries is specifically to help make sure no >>>>>>> one gets prosecuted out of a personal vendetta.

    2. This isn?t about ?free speech?

    In all four cases, Trump has been indicted because of what he allegedly >>>>>>> did, not what he said. Lots of crimes involve speech, but that doesn?t >>>>>>> stop them from being crimes. Even Trump?s hand-picked attorney general, >>>>>>> Bill Barr, recognizes this defense is nonsense.

    3. It doesn?t matter whether Trump believed the election was stolen >>>>>>>
    There?s plenty of evidence that Trump knew he lost the election fair >>>>>>> and square. His claims of massive fraud were rejected by his own >>>>>>> campaign manager, White House lawyers, and his hand-picked Justice >>>>>>> Department officials.

    And privately, Trump seemed to admit that he either knew or didn?t care >>>>>>> that his claims were false, allegedly criticizing VP Pence for being >>>>>>> ?too honest,? and allegedly admitting to his Chief of Staff Mark >>>>>>> Meadows that he lost and wanted to cover it up.

    But even if Trump really did believe the election was stolen, that >>>>>>> doesn?t give him the right to allegedly commit a criminal conspiracy to >>>>>>> try to steal it back.

    4. Trump has received preferential treatment because of who he is. >>>>>>>
    Trump?s defenders complain about a two-tiered justice system.

    They?re right about that, but not in the way they claim. Trump has been >>>>>>> given special privileges most criminal defendants would never get. >>>>>>>
    In all four criminal cases, he has been released without bail. He has >>>>>>> repeatedly been spared the indignity of a mugshot. He has not had his >>>>>>> passport suspended or had limits placed on his ability to travel ? even >>>>>>> though two of his criminal cases involve direct threats to national >>>>>>> security, and even though he has used social media to issue insults and >>>>>>> threats against potential witnesses, behavior that would cause many >>>>>>> criminal defendants to be held without bail pending
    trial.

    5. Trump was in legal trouble long before entering politics

    Some of Trump?s defenders claim the sheer number of criminal charges >>>>>>> and civil suits he?s now facing is proof that he?s being targeted for >>>>>>> political reasons. But you have to remember that Trump was the subject >>>>>>> of about 4,000 legal actions before ever running for president. From >>>>>>> his fraudulent Trump University scam to federal lawsuits over racist >>>>>>> housing discrimination, Trump has spent his life in court because of >>>>>>> his own shady behavior.

    Trump is being prosecuted now because, as four grand juries have found, >>>>>>> the strength of the evidence against him merits it. If we fail to hold >>>>>>> him fully accountable under the law, the precedent will embolden future >>>>>>> presidents to break the law, jeopardize national security, incite >>>>>>> insurrections, and possibly even overturn an election.

    The principle that no one is above the law is only true if we make it >>>>>>> so.

    So did you dream about him last night?

    All that damning evidence, and you choose to
    "whistle past the graveyard"?

    Now that's chutzpah!

    I don't know what that is. Only you all seem concerned.

    You don't know anything, you stupid junkie asshole.

    Did you see me slap Chad outta here?

    Chad owns you, drug addict. Cry for him some more.



    Chad owns nothing.

    Not a house. Not a car. And certainly not a human being, notwithstanding
    his ongoing pleas that Lonnie Salisbury’s wife, Annaliese, is “his”…

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  • From ]v[etaphoid@21:1/5 to Lou Proctor on Wed Aug 23 10:16:58 2023
    Lou Proctor <louproctor@aol.com> wrote:
    On 2023-08-22 02:52:05 +0000, Skeeter said:

    In article <btUEM.126376$QQFb.58606@fx38.iad>, creon@creon.earth says...

    On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 19:25:55 -0600, Skeeter wrote:

    In article <4bd49159-11d2-42f2-b958-bcf1f7a246a0n@googlegroups.com>,
    davidbrown20782@gmail.com says...

    rump?s defenders are still lying about his indictments. Here are 5
    crucial facts you can share with whoever in your life needs to hear
    them.

    1. President Biden did not indict Trump.

    Four different grand juries ? made up of ordinary citizens ? indicted >>>>> Trump after being presented with evidence they found compelling enough >>>>> to warrant criminal prosecution.

    The reason we have grand juries is specifically to help make sure no >>>>> one gets prosecuted out of a personal vendetta.

    2. This isn?t about ?free speech?

    In all four cases, Trump has been indicted because of what he allegedly >>>>> did, not what he said. Lots of crimes involve speech, but that doesn?t >>>>> stop them from being crimes. Even Trump?s hand-picked attorney general, >>>>> Bill Barr, recognizes this defense is nonsense.

    3. It doesn?t matter whether Trump believed the election was stolen

    There?s plenty of evidence that Trump knew he lost the election fair >>>>> and square. His claims of massive fraud were rejected by his own
    campaign manager, White House lawyers, and his hand-picked Justice
    Department officials.

    And privately, Trump seemed to admit that he either knew or didn?t care >>>>> that his claims were false, allegedly criticizing VP Pence for being >>>>> ?too honest,? and allegedly admitting to his Chief of Staff Mark
    Meadows that he lost and wanted to cover it up.

    But even if Trump really did believe the election was stolen, that
    doesn?t give him the right to allegedly commit a criminal conspiracy to >>>>> try to steal it back.

    4. Trump has received preferential treatment because of who he is.

    Trump?s defenders complain about a two-tiered justice system.

    They?re right about that, but not in the way they claim. Trump has been >>>>> given special privileges most criminal defendants would never get.

    In all four criminal cases, he has been released without bail. He has >>>>> repeatedly been spared the indignity of a mugshot. He has not had his >>>>> passport suspended or had limits placed on his ability to travel ? even >>>>> though two of his criminal cases involve direct threats to national
    security, and even though he has used social media to issue insults and >>>>> threats against potential witnesses, behavior that would cause many
    criminal defendants to be held without bail pending
    trial.

    5. Trump was in legal trouble long before entering politics

    Some of Trump?s defenders claim the sheer number of criminal charges >>>>> and civil suits he?s now facing is proof that he?s being targeted for >>>>> political reasons. But you have to remember that Trump was the subject >>>>> of about 4,000 legal actions before ever running for president. From >>>>> his fraudulent Trump University scam to federal lawsuits over racist >>>>> housing discrimination, Trump has spent his life in court because of >>>>> his own shady behavior.

    Trump is being prosecuted now because, as four grand juries have found, >>>>> the strength of the evidence against him merits it. If we fail to hold >>>>> him fully accountable under the law, the precedent will embolden future >>>>> presidents to break the law, jeopardize national security, incite
    insurrections, and possibly even overturn an election.

    The principle that no one is above the law is only true if we make it >>>>> so.

    So did you dream about him last night?

    All that damning evidence, and you choose to
    "whistle past the graveyard"?

    Now that's chutzpah!

    I don't know what that is. Only you all seem concerned.

    You don't know anything, you stupid junkie asshole.



    Step away from the poutine, you simple, fat cunt…

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  • From %@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 23 11:36:36 2023
    In article <MPG.3f4ecc492e7bf83598ead2@usnews.blocknews.net>, Skeeterweed@proton.me
    Skeeter says...
    Did you see me slap Chad outta here?


    https://imgur.com/a/YgOd05s

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 23 12:39:55 2023
    In article <MPG.3f4ff193bd1eb9a6989788@news.thecubenet.com>,
    peescent@qmail.net says...

    In article <MPG.3f4ecc492e7bf83598ead2@usnews.blocknews.net>, Skeeterweed@proton.me
    Skeeter says...
    Did you see me slap Chad outta here?


    https://imgur.com/a/YgOd05s

    I don't go to links on usenet. But I slapped him pretty good.

    --
    " They're not after me, they are after you! I'm just in the way"
    " Go Peacefully"

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  • From Lou Proctor@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Wed Aug 23 20:38:48 2023
    XPost: alt.checkmate

    On 2023-08-23 01:04:17 +0000, Skeeter said:

    In article <ryKdnW2Jz_rBxHj5nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com>, pursent100 @gmail.com says...

    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <2023082220352774618-louproctor@aol.com>, louproctor@aol.com
    says...

    On 2023-08-22 20:45:18 +0000, Skeeter said:

    In article <2023082214172524932-louproctor@aol.com>, louproctor@aol.com >>>>> says...

    On 2023-08-22 02:52:05 +0000, Skeeter said:

    In article <btUEM.126376$QQFb.58606@fx38.iad>, creon@creon.earth says...

    On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 19:25:55 -0600, Skeeter wrote:

    In article <4bd49159-11d2-42f2-b958-bcf1f7a246a0n@googlegroups.com>, >>>>>>>>> davidbrown20782@gmail.com says...

    rump?s defenders are still lying about his indictments. Here are 5 >>>>>>>>>> crucial facts you can share with whoever in your life needs to hear >>>>>>>>>> them.

    1. President Biden did not indict Trump.

    Four different grand juries ? made up of ordinary citizens ? indicted
    Trump after being presented with evidence they found compelling enough
    to warrant criminal prosecution.

    The reason we have grand juries is specifically to help make sure no >>>>>>>>>> one gets prosecuted out of a personal vendetta.

    2. This isn?t about ?free speech?

    In all four cases, Trump has been indicted because of what he allegedly
    did, not what he said. Lots of crimes involve speech, but that doesn?t
    stop them from being crimes. Even Trump?s hand-picked attorney general,
    Bill Barr, recognizes this defense is nonsense.

    3. It doesn?t matter whether Trump believed the election was stolen >>>>>>>>>>
    There?s plenty of evidence that Trump knew he lost the election fair >>>>>>>>>> and square. His claims of massive fraud were rejected by his own >>>>>>>>>> campaign manager, White House lawyers, and his hand-picked Justice >>>>>>>>>> Department officials.

    And privately, Trump seemed to admit that he either knew or didn?t care
    that his claims were false, allegedly criticizing VP Pence for being >>>>>>>>>> ?too honest,? and allegedly admitting to his Chief of Staff Mark >>>>>>>>>> Meadows that he lost and wanted to cover it up.

    But even if Trump really did believe the election was stolen, that >>>>>>>>>> doesn?t give him the right to allegedly commit a criminal conspiracy to
    try to steal it back.

    4. Trump has received preferential treatment because of who he is. >>>>>>>>>>
    Trump?s defenders complain about a two-tiered justice system. >>>>>>>>>>
    They?re right about that, but not in the way they claim. Trump has been
    given special privileges most criminal defendants would never get. >>>>>>>>>>
    In all four criminal cases, he has been released without bail. He has
    repeatedly been spared the indignity of a mugshot. He has not had his
    passport suspended or had limits placed on his ability to travel ? even
    though two of his criminal cases involve direct threats to national >>>>>>>>>> security, and even though he has used social media to issue insults and
    threats against potential witnesses, behavior that would cause many >>>>>>>>>> criminal defendants to be held without bail pending
    trial.

    5. Trump was in legal trouble long before entering politics >>>>>>>>>>
    Some of Trump?s defenders claim the sheer number of criminal charges >>>>>>>>>> and civil suits he?s now facing is proof that he?s being targeted for
    political reasons. But you have to remember that Trump was the subject
    of about 4,000 legal actions before ever running for president. From >>>>>>>>>> his fraudulent Trump University scam to federal lawsuits over racist >>>>>>>>>> housing discrimination, Trump has spent his life in court because of >>>>>>>>>> his own shady behavior.

    Trump is being prosecuted now because, as four grand juries have found,
    the strength of the evidence against him merits it. If we fail to hold
    him fully accountable under the law, the precedent will embolden future
    presidents to break the law, jeopardize national security, incite >>>>>>>>>> insurrections, and possibly even overturn an election.

    The principle that no one is above the law is only true if we make it
    so.

    So did you dream about him last night?

    All that damning evidence, and you choose to
    "whistle past the graveyard"?

    Now that's chutzpah!

    I don't know what that is. Only you all seem concerned.

    You don't know anything, you stupid junkie asshole.

    Did you see me slap Chad outta here?

    Chad owns you, drug addict. Cry for him some more.

    Oh he left here running like the best part of you ran down your mothers
    leg.


    who's pou loctor

    Chad sock.

    Save your lies for that group you and all of your druggie friends post
    in, ya Rocky Mountain fuckboy.

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  • From ]v[etaphoid@21:1/5 to Lou Proctor on Thu Aug 24 04:50:17 2023
    XPost: alt.checkmate

    Lou Proctor <louproctor@aol.com> wrote:
    On 2023-08-23 01:04:17 +0000, Skeeter said:

    In article <ryKdnW2Jz_rBxHj5nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com>, pursent100
    @gmail.com says...

    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <2023082220352774618-louproctor@aol.com>, louproctor@aol.com >>>> says...

    On 2023-08-22 20:45:18 +0000, Skeeter said:

    In article <2023082214172524932-louproctor@aol.com>, louproctor@aol.com >>>>>> says...

    On 2023-08-22 02:52:05 +0000, Skeeter said:

    In article <btUEM.126376$QQFb.58606@fx38.iad>, creon@creon.earth says...

    On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 19:25:55 -0600, Skeeter wrote:

    In article <4bd49159-11d2-42f2-b958-bcf1f7a246a0n@googlegroups.com>, >>>>>>>>>> davidbrown20782@gmail.com says...

    rump?s defenders are still lying about his indictments. Here are 5 >>>>>>>>>>> crucial facts you can share with whoever in your life needs to hear >>>>>>>>>>> them.

    1. President Biden did not indict Trump.

    Four different grand juries ? made up of ordinary citizens ? indicted
    Trump after being presented with evidence they found compelling enough
    to warrant criminal prosecution.

    The reason we have grand juries is specifically to help make sure no
    one gets prosecuted out of a personal vendetta.

    2. This isn?t about ?free speech?

    In all four cases, Trump has been indicted because of what he allegedly
    did, not what he said. Lots of crimes involve speech, but that doesn?t
    stop them from being crimes. Even Trump?s hand-picked attorney general,
    Bill Barr, recognizes this defense is nonsense.

    3. It doesn?t matter whether Trump believed the election was stolen >>>>>>>>>>>
    There?s plenty of evidence that Trump knew he lost the election fair
    and square. His claims of massive fraud were rejected by his own >>>>>>>>>>> campaign manager, White House lawyers, and his hand-picked Justice >>>>>>>>>>> Department officials.

    And privately, Trump seemed to admit that he either knew or didn?t care
    that his claims were false, allegedly criticizing VP Pence for being
    ?too honest,? and allegedly admitting to his Chief of Staff Mark >>>>>>>>>>> Meadows that he lost and wanted to cover it up.

    But even if Trump really did believe the election was stolen, that >>>>>>>>>>> doesn?t give him the right to allegedly commit a criminal conspiracy to
    try to steal it back.

    4. Trump has received preferential treatment because of who he is. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Trump?s defenders complain about a two-tiered justice system. >>>>>>>>>>>
    They?re right about that, but not in the way they claim. Trump has been
    given special privileges most criminal defendants would never get. >>>>>>>>>>>
    In all four criminal cases, he has been released without bail. He has
    repeatedly been spared the indignity of a mugshot. He has not had his
    passport suspended or had limits placed on his ability to travel ? even
    though two of his criminal cases involve direct threats to national >>>>>>>>>>> security, and even though he has used social media to issue insults and
    threats against potential witnesses, behavior that would cause many >>>>>>>>>>> criminal defendants to be held without bail pending
    trial.

    5. Trump was in legal trouble long before entering politics >>>>>>>>>>>
    Some of Trump?s defenders claim the sheer number of criminal charges
    and civil suits he?s now facing is proof that he?s being targeted for
    political reasons. But you have to remember that Trump was the subject
    of about 4,000 legal actions before ever running for president. From
    his fraudulent Trump University scam to federal lawsuits over racist
    housing discrimination, Trump has spent his life in court because of
    his own shady behavior.

    Trump is being prosecuted now because, as four grand juries have found,
    the strength of the evidence against him merits it. If we fail to hold
    him fully accountable under the law, the precedent will embolden future
    presidents to break the law, jeopardize national security, incite >>>>>>>>>>> insurrections, and possibly even overturn an election.

    The principle that no one is above the law is only true if we make it
    so.

    So did you dream about him last night?

    All that damning evidence, and you choose to
    "whistle past the graveyard"?

    Now that's chutzpah!

    I don't know what that is. Only you all seem concerned.

    You don't know anything, you stupid junkie asshole.

    Did you see me slap Chad outta here?

    Chad owns you, drug addict. Cry for him some more.

    Oh he left here running like the best part of you ran down your mothers >>>> leg.


    who's pou loctor

    Chad sock.

    Save your lies for that group you and all of your druggie friends post
    in, ya Rocky Mountain fuckboy.

    Pipe down, fat boy…

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  • From Creon@21:1/5 to Lou Proctor on Thu Aug 24 05:49:50 2023
    XPost: alt.checkmate

    On Wed, 23 Aug 2023 20:38:48 -0400, Lou Proctor wrote:

    Save your lies for that group you and all of your druggie friends post
    in,
    ya Rocky Mountain fuckboy.

    alt.checkmate isn't about the drugs, necessarily...there's
    alt.slack for that.

    Some of us (TINU) are refugees from auk. alt.recovery.auk,
    if you will...

    --
    -c

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