• Liz Bentley

    From Kara Mac@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 18 13:14:57 2023
    Liz Bentley is fixing to announce she works for YOU as a news reporter.
    Pay up!!!

    Dear Liz- everyone has the same access to news. Get a job, Liz, get a job.

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  • From Davey Zimmerman #274@21:1/5 to Kara Mac on Tue Jul 18 20:31:22 2023
    Kara Mac <karamcnamara0630@gmail.com> wrote in news:ddd1b328-e98d-4d38-bfdf-bb78ffa3c262n@googlegroups.com:

    Liz Bentley is fixing to announce she works for YOU as a news
    reporter. Pay up!!!

    She's fired. I get my news from people who don't shill for a remorseless
    mooch like JOHN HENRY DEJONG.

    Dear Liz- everyone has the same access to news. Get a job, Liz, get a
    job.

    If she gets the endorsement of Beth Aultman, I may reconsider.

    --
    "What I do here & elsewhere is my job. You folks sign my paycheck. I
    appreciate that." - Remorseless mooch JOHN HENRY DEJONG in a rare not-so-completely-batshit moment.

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  • From Taro Tsujimoto@21:1/5 to Kara Mac on Wed Jul 19 01:47:31 2023
    Kara Mac <karamcnamara0630@gmail.com> wrote:

    Liz Bentley is fixing to announce she works for YOU as a news
    reporter. Pay up!!!

    Dear Liz- everyone has the same access to news. Get a job, Liz,
    get a job.


    Liz Bentley is a John Henry DeJong sock.

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  • From Taro Tsujimoto@21:1/5 to Valentine Jack Smith on Wed Jul 19 03:46:54 2023
    Valentine Jack Smith <VJS@doj.mars> wrote:

    Taro Tsujimoto graced us with:

    Kara Mac <karamcnamara0630@gmail.com> wrote:

    Liz Bentley is fixing to announce she works for YOU as a news
    reporter. Pay up!!!

    Dear Liz- everyone has the same access to news. Get a job, Liz,
    get a job.


    Liz Bentley is a John Henry DeJong sock.

    There's no evidence of that. What's crazy is that John himself
    JUST posted here and explained in great detail that he does not
    roll sockpuppets or pretend to be other people

    Valentine Smith is the titular character in "Stranger in a Strange
    Land", which is a 1961 science fiction novel by American author Robert
    A. Heinlein.

    You're busted again, John Henry Dejong.

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  • From Valentine Jack Smith@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 19 03:33:29 2023
    Taro Tsujimoto graced us with:

    Kara Mac <karamcnamara0630@gmail.com> wrote:

    Liz Bentley is fixing to announce she works for YOU as a news
    reporter. Pay up!!!

    Dear Liz- everyone has the same access to news. Get a job, Liz,
    get a job.


    Liz Bentley is a John Henry DeJong sock.

    There's no evidence of that. What's crazy is that John himself JUST
    posted here and explained in great detail that he does not roll
    sockpuppets or pretend to be other people and that his defining feature
    as a contributor across all forums is the fact that for better or worse
    he stands behind what he says with his actual identity. He's not
    perfect, and he's done things and made decisions in the past that
    inhindsight were regrettable, but he doesn't hide from those things and
    in fact he seems to have used them as opportunities to learn, to
    evolve, and to teach others who may encounter similar things in their
    lives so that maybe they might have access to information about the
    world, how it works, and how people with certain personality types tend
    to approach it, and make better decisions in those circumstances than
    he did. When John posts, you'll know it; the "From:" field in his
    headers will read "John Henry" or some clear variation thereof, not
    "Chuckles McGee" or "Liz Bentley" or any other fiction.

    I suggest that anyone who has a bone to pick with John head over
    to his public Facebook page and express themselves. If you have
    anything to say in good faith, and aren't just a useless obnoxious
    troll with deep-seated narcissism and self-esteem issues or a victim of somesuch manipulated into dogpiling the guy for no sensible,
    rational,or defensible reason, he'll hear what you have to say and
    respond in kind. Otherwise - by posting here - you're only providing
    evidence concretizing every single thing he's uttered in his analyses
    about your ilk. He's probably grateful for that in a small way, seeing
    as how it not only proves him correct but also offers fodder for future
    case studies which could fuel his work for a very long time.

    Instead of trying (and failing) to be Billy Badass cyberbullies on
    archaic social media, perhaps you could take a step back and actually
    consider John's ideas and writings without bias to see if there's any
    merit there - and whether or not some of the concepts he's floating
    apply to you? Introspection is probably far beyond most of you at this
    point, but if you ever wanted to be honest with yourselves for even one
    second, and you could muster the smallest amount of courage, you'd at
    least attempt to engage with John and his ideas fairly.

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  • From The Ref@21:1/5 to Valentine Jack Smith on Wed Jul 19 09:32:10 2023
    On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 03:33:29 -0000 (UTC), Valentine Jack Smith wrote:

    Taro Tsujimoto graced us with:

    Kara Mac <karamcnamara0630@gmail.com> wrote:

    Liz Bentley is fixing to announce she works for YOU as a news
    reporter. Pay up!!!

    Dear Liz- everyone has the same access to news. Get a job, Liz,
    get a job.


    Liz Bentley is a John Henry DeJong sock.

    There's no evidence of that. What's crazy is that John himself JUST
    posted here and explained in great detail that he does not roll
    sockpuppets or pretend to be other people and that his defining feature
    as a contributor across all forums is the fact that for better or worse
    he stands behind what he says with his actual identity. He's not
    perfect, and he's done things and made decisions in the past that
    inhindsight were regrettable, but he doesn't hide from those things and
    in fact he seems to have used them as opportunities to learn, to evolve,
    and to teach others who may encounter similar things in their lives so
    that maybe they might have access to information about the world, how it works, and how people with certain personality types tend to approach
    it, and make better decisions in those circumstances than he did. When
    John posts, you'll know it; the "From:" field in his headers will read
    "John Henry" or some clear variation thereof, not "Chuckles McGee" or
    "Liz Bentley" or any other fiction.

    I suggest that anyone who has a bone to pick with John head over to his public Facebook page and express themselves. If you have anything to say
    in good faith, and aren't just a useless obnoxious troll with
    deep-seated narcissism and self-esteem issues or a victim of somesuch manipulated into dogpiling the guy for no sensible, rational,or
    defensible reason, he'll hear what you have to say and respond in kind. Otherwise - by posting here - you're only providing evidence
    concretizing every single thing he's uttered in his analyses about your
    ilk. He's probably grateful for that in a small way, seeing as how it
    not only proves him correct but also offers fodder for future case
    studies which could fuel his work for a very long time.


    Brreeet! Illegal procedure: Bifurcation fallacy.

    https://infidels.org/library/modern/constructing-a-logical-argument/

    https://infidels.org/library/modern/constructing-a-logical-argument/#bifurcation

    Bifurcation
    Also referred to as the “black and white” fallacy and
    “false dichotomy,” bifurcation occurs if someone presents a
    situation as having only two alternatives, where in fact other
    alternatives exist or can exist. For example:

    “Either man was created, as the Bible tells us, or he evolved
    from inanimate chemicals by pure random chance, as scientists
    tell us. The latter is incredibly unlikely, so …”
    _ _ _ _ _ _ _

    There are good and sufficient reasons for men, women, and the rest of us
    with clear eyes and sound judgment to remain anonymous, especially with
    the random nutbars that inhabit these spaces. You know the type -- they threaten critics with showing up at their door... or worse.

    (I write with pseudonyms. None of them are more than slightly
    anonymous.)

    "Come at me on Facebook" is disingenuous, because it is inviting
    too much information disclosure that scurrilous ruffians might
    use against the innocent.

    Instead of trying (and failing) to be Billy Badass cyberbullies

    Not me, I'm just a guy calling himself a "Ref", which actually has
    no standing in reality whatsoever. I'm here now, but I could be gone
    tomorrow.

    on archaic social media,

    But nevertheless: you are here, now.

    So that's the ruling on the field: bifurcation. Classic
    Black/White fallacy.

    But hey, don't take my word for it: consult the references
    provided. "Constructing a logical argument".

    perhaps you could take a step back and actually
    consider John's ideas and writings without bias to see if there's any
    merit there - and whether or not some of the concepts he's floating
    apply to you? Introspection is probably far beyond most of you at this
    point, but if you ever wanted to be honest with yourselves for even one second, and you could muster the smallest amount of courage, you'd at
    least attempt to engage with John and his ideas fairly.

    This reply from The Ref was brought to you by the letter "u" and
    the number "2".

    --
    I am not a lawyer; I am The Ref.

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