Disney Pulls Plug on $1 Billion Development in Floridatargeted campaign of government retaliation,? the company made clear that $17 billion in planned investment in Walt Disney World was on the line.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/18/business/disney-ron-desantis-florida.html
A new office complex, and relocation of a division from California, would have created more than 2,000 jobs but was scuttled as the company and Gov. Ron DeSantis continue to feud.
By Brooks Barnes
May 18, 2023, 2:15 p.m. ET
In March, Disney called Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida ?anti-business? for his scorched-earth attempt to tighten oversight of the company?s theme park resort near Orlando. Last month, when Disney sued the governor and his allies for what it called ?a
?Does the state want us to invest more, employ more people, and pay more taxes, or not?? Robert A. Iger, Disney?s chief executive, said on an earnings-related conference call with analysts last week.more than 2,000 jobs to the region, with $120,000 as the average salary, according to an estimate from the Florida Department of Economic Opportunity.
On Thursday, Mr. Iger and Josh D?Amaro, Disney?s theme park and consumer products chairman, showed that they were not bluffing, pulling the plug on a nearly $1 billion office complex that was scheduled for construction in Orlando. It would have brought
The project, known as the Lake Nona Town Center, was supposed to involve the relocation of more than 1,000 employees from Southern California, including most of a department known as Imagineering, which works with Disney?s movie studios to developtheme park attractions. Most of the affected employees complained bitterly about having to move ? some quit ? but Disney largely held firm, partly because of a Florida tax credit that would have allowed the company to recoup
ADVERTISEMENTAmaro said in the memo. He noted that $17 billion was still earmarked for construction at Disney World over the next decade ? growth that would create an estimated 13,000 jobs. ?I hope we?re able to,? he said.
When he announced the project in 2021, Mr. D?Amaro cited ?Florida?s business-friendly climate? as justification.
Mr. D?Amaro?s tone in an email to employees on Thursday was notably different. He cited ?changing business conditions? as a reason for canceling the Lake Nona project. ?I remain optimistic about the direction of our Walt Disney World business,? Mr. D?
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On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 4:34:01 PM UTC-4, Skeeter wrote:targeted campaign of government retaliation,? the company made clear that $17 billion in planned investment in Walt Disney World was on the line.
In article <fe1ec369-648d-4270...@googlegroups.com>,
davidbr...@gmail.com says...
Disney Pulls Plug on $1 Billion Development in Florida
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/18/business/disney-ron-desantis-florida.html
A new office complex, and relocation of a division from California, would have created more than 2,000 jobs but was scuttled as the company and Gov. Ron DeSantis continue to feud.
By Brooks Barnes
May 18, 2023, 2:15 p.m. ET
In March, Disney called Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida ?anti-business? for his scorched-earth attempt to tighten oversight of the company?s theme park resort near Orlando. Last month, when Disney sued the governor and his allies for what it called ?a
brought more than 2,000 jobs to the region, with $120,000 as the average salary, according to an estimate from the Florida Department of Economic Opportunity.?Does the state want us to invest more, employ more people, and pay more taxes, or not?? Robert A. Iger, Disney?s chief executive, said on an earnings-related conference call with analysts last week.
On Thursday, Mr. Iger and Josh D?Amaro, Disney?s theme park and consumer products chairman, showed that they were not bluffing, pulling the plug on a nearly $1 billion office complex that was scheduled for construction in Orlando. It would have
theme park attractions. Most of the affected employees complained bitterly about having to move ? some quit ? but Disney largely held firm, partly because of a Florida tax credit that would have allowed the company toThe project, known as the Lake Nona Town Center, was supposed to involve the relocation of more than 1,000 employees from Southern California, including most of a department known as Imagineering, which works with Disney?s movie studios to develop
D?Amaro said in the memo. He noted that $17 billion was still earmarked for construction at Disney World over the next decade ? growth that would create an estimated 13,000 jobs. ?I hope we?re able to,? he said.as much as $570 million over 20 years for building and occupying the complex.
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When he announced the project in 2021, Mr. D?Amaro cited ?Florida?s business-friendly climate? as justification.
Mr. D?Amaro?s tone in an email to employees on Thursday was notably different. He cited ?changing business conditions? as a reason for canceling the Lake Nona project. ?I remain optimistic about the direction of our Walt Disney World business,? Mr.
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Still dancing for me within mere SECONDS after I post?Once Again, Our Man Ron OWNS DISNEY and shows them WHO RUNS THINGS ROUND THESE PARTS!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!Still crying about things that don't matter?
In article <fe1ec369-648d-4270...@googlegroups.com>,targeted campaign of government retaliation,? the company made clear that $17 billion in planned investment in Walt Disney World was on the line.
davidbr...@gmail.com says...
Disney Pulls Plug on $1 Billion Development in Florida
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/18/business/disney-ron-desantis-florida.html
A new office complex, and relocation of a division from California, would have created more than 2,000 jobs but was scuttled as the company and Gov. Ron DeSantis continue to feud.
By Brooks Barnes
May 18, 2023, 2:15 p.m. ET
In March, Disney called Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida ?anti-business? for his scorched-earth attempt to tighten oversight of the company?s theme park resort near Orlando. Last month, when Disney sued the governor and his allies for what it called ?a
brought more than 2,000 jobs to the region, with $120,000 as the average salary, according to an estimate from the Florida Department of Economic Opportunity.?Does the state want us to invest more, employ more people, and pay more taxes, or not?? Robert A. Iger, Disney?s chief executive, said on an earnings-related conference call with analysts last week.
On Thursday, Mr. Iger and Josh D?Amaro, Disney?s theme park and consumer products chairman, showed that they were not bluffing, pulling the plug on a nearly $1 billion office complex that was scheduled for construction in Orlando. It would have
theme park attractions. Most of the affected employees complained bitterly about having to move ? some quit ? but Disney largely held firm, partly because of a Florida tax credit that would have allowed the company to recoupThe project, known as the Lake Nona Town Center, was supposed to involve the relocation of more than 1,000 employees from Southern California, including most of a department known as Imagineering, which works with Disney?s movie studios to develop
as much as $570 million over 20 years for building and occupying the complex.Amaro said in the memo. He noted that $17 billion was still earmarked for construction at Disney World over the next decade ? growth that would create an estimated 13,000 jobs. ?I hope we?re able to,? he said.
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When he announced the project in 2021, Mr. D?Amaro cited ?Florida?s business-friendly climate? as justification.
Mr. D?Amaro?s tone in an email to employees on Thursday was notably different. He cited ?changing business conditions? as a reason for canceling the Lake Nona project. ?I remain optimistic about the direction of our Walt Disney World business,? Mr. D?
Still dancing for me within mere SECONDS after I post?****
AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Once Again, Our Man Ron OWNS DISNEY and shows them WHO RUNS THINGS ROUND THESE PARTS!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!Still crying about things that don't matter?
In article <de96d120-5879-44e8...@googlegroups.com>,a targeted campaign of government retaliation,? the company made clear that $17 billion in planned investment in Walt Disney World was on the line.
davidbr...@gmail.com says...
On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 4:34:01 PM UTC-4, Skeeter wrote:
In article <fe1ec369-648d-4270...@googlegroups.com>, davidbr...@gmail.com says...
Disney Pulls Plug on $1 Billion Development in Florida
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/18/business/disney-ron-desantis-florida.html
A new office complex, and relocation of a division from California, would have created more than 2,000 jobs but was scuttled as the company and Gov. Ron DeSantis continue to feud.
By Brooks Barnes
May 18, 2023, 2:15 p.m. ET
In March, Disney called Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida ?anti-business? for his scorched-earth attempt to tighten oversight of the company?s theme park resort near Orlando. Last month, when Disney sued the governor and his allies for what it called ?
brought more than 2,000 jobs to the region, with $120,000 as the average salary, according to an estimate from the Florida Department of Economic Opportunity.?Does the state want us to invest more, employ more people, and pay more taxes, or not?? Robert A. Iger, Disney?s chief executive, said on an earnings-related conference call with analysts last week.
On Thursday, Mr. Iger and Josh D?Amaro, Disney?s theme park and consumer products chairman, showed that they were not bluffing, pulling the plug on a nearly $1 billion office complex that was scheduled for construction in Orlando. It would have
develop theme park attractions. Most of the affected employees complained bitterly about having to move ? some quit ? but Disney largely held firm, partly because of a Florida tax credit that would have allowed the company toThe project, known as the Lake Nona Town Center, was supposed to involve the relocation of more than 1,000 employees from Southern California, including most of a department known as Imagineering, which works with Disney?s movie studios to
recoupMr. D?Amaro said in the memo. He noted that $17 billion was still earmarked for construction at Disney World over the next decade ? growth that would create an estimated 13,000 jobs. ?I hope we?re able to,? he said.
as much as $570 million over 20 years for building and occupying the complex.
ADVERTISEMENT
When he announced the project in 2021, Mr. D?Amaro cited ?Florida?s business-friendly climate? as justification.
Mr. D?Amaro?s tone in an email to employees on Thursday was notably different. He cited ?changing business conditions? as a reason for canceling the Lake Nona project. ?I remain optimistic about the direction of our Walt Disney World business,?
You're my biggest groupie, I figured that out.****
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You haven't figured out usenet works have you?Still dancing for me within mere SECONDS after I post?Once Again, Our Man Ron OWNS DISNEY and shows them WHO RUNS THINGS ROUND THESE PARTS!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!Still crying about things that don't matter?
Still crying about things that don't matter?
If I don't reply to this Skeeter post, the terroists win.
Still crying about things that don't matter?
One would think those lost jobs, tax dollars and tourist spending
would matter to the people of Florida.
And to those looking at Gov. Puddinfingers as a potential POTUS, of
course.
On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 4:39:16 PM UTC-4, Skeeter wrote:called ?a targeted campaign of government retaliation,? the company made clear that $17 billion in planned investment in Walt Disney World was on the line.
In article <de96d120-5879-44e8...@googlegroups.com>,
davidbr...@gmail.com says...
On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 4:34:01 PM UTC-4, Skeeter wrote:
In article <fe1ec369-648d-4270...@googlegroups.com>, davidbr...@gmail.com says...
Disney Pulls Plug on $1 Billion Development in Florida
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/18/business/disney-ron-desantis-florida.html
A new office complex, and relocation of a division from California, would have created more than 2,000 jobs but was scuttled as the company and Gov. Ron DeSantis continue to feud.
By Brooks Barnes
May 18, 2023, 2:15 p.m. ET
In March, Disney called Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida ?anti-business? for his scorched-earth attempt to tighten oversight of the company?s theme park resort near Orlando. Last month, when Disney sued the governor and his allies for what it
brought more than 2,000 jobs to the region, with $120,000 as the average salary, according to an estimate from the Florida Department of Economic Opportunity.?Does the state want us to invest more, employ more people, and pay more taxes, or not?? Robert A. Iger, Disney?s chief executive, said on an earnings-related conference call with analysts last week.
On Thursday, Mr. Iger and Josh D?Amaro, Disney?s theme park and consumer products chairman, showed that they were not bluffing, pulling the plug on a nearly $1 billion office complex that was scheduled for construction in Orlando. It would have
develop theme park attractions. Most of the affected employees complained bitterly about having to move ? some quit ? but Disney largely held firm, partly because of a Florida tax credit that would have allowed the company toThe project, known as the Lake Nona Town Center, was supposed to involve the relocation of more than 1,000 employees from Southern California, including most of a department known as Imagineering, which works with Disney?s movie studios to
Mr. D?Amaro said in the memo. He noted that $17 billion was still earmarked for construction at Disney World over the next decade ? growth that would create an estimated 13,000 jobs. ?I hope we?re able to,? he said.recoup
as much as $570 million over 20 years for building and occupying the complex.
ADVERTISEMENT
When he announced the project in 2021, Mr. D?Amaro cited ?Florida?s business-friendly climate? as justification.
Mr. D?Amaro?s tone in an email to employees on Thursday was notably different. He cited ?changing business conditions? as a reason for canceling the Lake Nona project. ?I remain optimistic about the direction of our Walt Disney World business,?
****
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You're my biggest groupie, I figured that out.You haven't figured out usenet works have you?Still dancing for me within mere SECONDS after I post?Once Again, Our Man Ron OWNS DISNEY and shows them WHO RUNS THINGS ROUND THESE PARTS!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!Still crying about things that don't matter?
Please, though, up off your knees...that's not my thing. NTTAWWT
On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 6:04:15 AM UTC-4, Skeeter wrote:
In article <XnsB008F111E1CE2f...@95.217.65.137>,Actually we'd kind of like to keep talking about your boy Ron
free...@hotSPAMTHISmail.com says...
Cry more cupcake. Any word on your pick?
If I don't reply to this Skeeter post, the terroists win.
Still crying about things that don't matter?
One would think those lost jobs, tax dollars and tourist spending
would matter to the people of Florida.
And to those looking at Gov. Puddinfingers as a potential POTUS, of
course.
Desantis, "Nancy Sinatra's #1 fan" if you don't mind.
In article <XnsB008F111E1CE2f...@95.217.65.137>,Actually we'd kind of like to keep talking about your boy Ron Desantis, "Nancy Sinatra's #1 fan" if you don't mind.
free...@hotSPAMTHISmail.com says...
If I don't reply to this Skeeter post, the terroists win.
Still crying about things that don't matter?
One would think those lost jobs, tax dollars and tourist spending
would matter to the people of Florida.
And to those looking at Gov. Puddinfingers as a potential POTUS, of course.Cry more cupcake. Any word on your pick?
On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 6:04:15 AM UTC-4, Skeeter wrote:
In article <XnsB008F111E1CE2f...@95.217.65.137>, free...@hotSPAMTHISmail.com says...
If I don't reply to this Skeeter post, the terroists win.
Still crying about things that don't matter?
One would think those lost jobs, tax dollars and tourist spending
would matter to the people of Florida.
Actually we'd kind of like to keep talking about your boy Ron Desantis, "Nancy Sinatra's #1 fan" if you don't mind.And to those looking at Gov. Puddinfingers as a potential POTUS, of course.Cry more cupcake. Any word on your pick?
Heh
Actually we'd kind of like to keep talking about your boy Ron
Desantis, "Nancy Sinatra's #1 fan" if you don't mind.
Jebediah Grainger <jebediah.grainger2@gmail.com> wrote in news:48ff3882-bfb2-4589-8224-21929f59a624n@googlegroups.com:
On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 6:04:15 AM UTC-4, Skeeter wrote:
In article <XnsB008F111E1CE2f...@95.217.65.137>,Actually we'd kind of like to keep talking about your boy Ron
free...@hotSPAMTHISmail.com says...
Cry more cupcake. Any word on your pick?
If I don't reply to this Skeeter post, the terroists win.
Still crying about things that don't matter?
One would think those lost jobs, tax dollars and tourist
spending would matter to the people of Florida.
And to those looking at Gov. Puddinfingers as a potential
POTUS, of course.
Desantis, "Nancy Sinatra's #1 fan" if you don't mind.
DeSatan is always overcompensating for something he'll never
have. Kind of like rasslin' fans. He'll go far.
If I don't reply to this Davey Zimmerman #274 post, the
terroists win.
Jebediah Grainger <jebediah.grainger2@gmail.com> wrote in news:48ff3882-bfb2-4589-8224-21929f59a624n@googlegroups.com:
On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 6:04:15⤯AM UTC-4, Skeeter wrote:
In article <XnsB008F111E1CE2f...@95.217.65.137>,Actually we'd kind of like to keep talking about your boy Ron
free...@hotSPAMTHISmail.com says...
Cry more cupcake. Any word on your pick?
If I don't reply to this Skeeter post, the terroists win.
Still crying about things that don't matter?
One would think those lost jobs, tax dollars and tourist
spending would matter to the people of Florida.
And to those looking at Gov. Puddinfingers as a potential
POTUS, of course.
Desantis, "Nancy Sinatra's #1 fan" if you don't mind.
DeSatan is always overcompensating for something he'll never
have. Kind of like rasslin' fans. He'll go far.
That doesn't say great things about the current GOP: Your current Presidential faves are this charisma-free load or the rapist
fraudster most of the party higher-ups openly loathe.
If I don't reply to this Davey Zimmerman #274 post, the
terroists win.
Jebediah Grainger <jebediah.grainger2@gmail.com> wrote in
news:48ff3882-bfb2-4589-8224-21929f59a624n@googlegroups.com:
On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 6:04:15 AM UTC-4, Skeeter wrote:
In article <XnsB008F111E1CE2f...@95.217.65.137>,Actually we'd kind of like to keep talking about your boy Ron
free...@hotSPAMTHISmail.com says...
Cry more cupcake. Any word on your pick?
If I don't reply to this Skeeter post, the terroists win.
Still crying about things that don't matter?
One would think those lost jobs, tax dollars and tourist
spending would matter to the people of Florida.
And to those looking at Gov. Puddinfingers as a potential
POTUS, of course.
Desantis, "Nancy Sinatra's #1 fan" if you don't mind.
DeSatan is always overcompensating for something he'll never
have. Kind of like rasslin' fans. He'll go far.
That doesn't say great things about the current GOP: Your current Presidential faves are this charisma-free load or the rapist
fraudster most of the party higher-ups openly loathe.
That doesn't say great things about the current GOP: Your
current Presidential faves are this charisma-free load or the
rapist fraudster most of the party higher-ups openly loathe.
What rape?
If I don't reply to this Skeeter post, the terroists win.
That doesn't say great things about the current GOP: Your
current Presidential faves are this charisma-free load or the
rapist fraudster most of the party higher-ups openly loathe.
What rape?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allega
tions
Take your pick.
In article <XnsB00E7FF0C17Ffr...@95.217.65.137>, freezer88 @hotSPAMTHISmail.com says...So your boy hangs out with Jeffrey Epstein, and has NUMEROUS allegations of rape against him, but yeah, innocent til proven guilty...as long as he's YOUR boy.
If I don't reply to this Skeeter post, the terroists win.
That doesn't say great things about the current GOP: Your
current Presidential faves are this charisma-free load or the
rapist fraudster most of the party higher-ups openly loathe.
What rape?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allega
tions
Take your pick.I saw the word "allegations"
Did you over look that?
On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 6:57:43 AM UTC-4, Skeeter wrote:
In article <XnsB00E7FF0C17Ffr...@95.217.65.137>, freezer88 @hotSPAMTHISmail.com says...
If I don't reply to this Skeeter post, the terroists win.
That doesn't say great things about the current GOP: Your
current Presidential faves are this charisma-free load or the
rapist fraudster most of the party higher-ups openly loathe.
What rape?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allega
tions
Take your pick.I saw the word "allegations"
Did you over look that?So your boy hangs out with Jeffrey Epstein, and has NUMEROUS allegations of rape against him, but yeah, innocent til proven guilty...as long as he's YOUR boy.
Meanwhile, Al Franken had to resign from the Senate for simply a juvenile prank.
In article <3bfaf0ef-637a-4a7a...@googlegroups.com>,
davidbr...@gmail.com says...
On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 6:57:43 AM UTC-4, Skeeter wrote:
In article <XnsB00E7FF0C17Ffr...@95.217.65.137>, freezer88 @hotSPAMTHISmail.com says...
If I don't reply to this Skeeter post, the terroists win.
That doesn't say great things about the current GOP: Your
current Presidential faves are this charisma-free load or the
rapist fraudster most of the party higher-ups openly loathe.
What rape?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allega tions
Take your pick.I saw the word "allegations"
Innocent until proven guilty is the law. Liberals don't like that. HeDid you over look that?So your boy hangs out with Jeffrey Epstein, and has NUMEROUS allegations of rape against him, but yeah, innocent til proven guilty...as long as he's YOUR boy.
dumped Epstein when he found about about him the first time Epstein
fucked up. You keep digging up lies while Joe keeps lying and diverting.
Meanwhile, Al Franken had to resign from the Senate for simply a juvenile prank.So? He was guilty.
On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 1:10:05 PM UTC-4, Skeeter wrote:
In article <3bfaf0ef-637a-4a7a...@googlegroups.com>,
davidbr...@gmail.com says...
On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 6:57:43 AM UTC-4, Skeeter wrote:
In article <XnsB00E7FF0C17Ffr...@95.217.65.137>, freezer88 @hotSPAMTHISmail.com says...
If I don't reply to this Skeeter post, the terroists win.
That doesn't say great things about the current GOP: Your
current Presidential faves are this charisma-free load or the
rapist fraudster most of the party higher-ups openly loathe.
What rape?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allega tions
Take your pick.I saw the word "allegations"
Innocent until proven guilty is the law. Liberals don't like that. He dumped Epstein when he found about about him the first time EpsteinDid you over look that?So your boy hangs out with Jeffrey Epstein, and has NUMEROUS allegations of rape against him, but yeah, innocent til proven guilty...as long as he's YOUR boy.
fucked up. You keep digging up lies while Joe keeps lying and diverting.
Meanwhile, Al Franken had to resign from the Senate for simply a juvenile prank.So? He was guilty.
Thanks for proving my point.
Meanwhile, Al Franken had to resign from the Senate for simply
a juvenile prank.
If I don't reply to this Ja-Son-Wan-Kenobi Has the High Ground
post, the terroists win.
Meanwhile, Al Franken had to resign from the Senate for simply
a juvenile prank.
To be fair and honest; that was one was the Left sacrificing
Franken to maintain the "moral high ground." For all the good it
did..
If I don't reply to this Ja-Son-Wan-Kenobi Has the High Ground
post, the terroists win.
Meanwhile, Al Franken had to resign from the Senate for simplyTo be fair and honest; that was one was the Left sacrificing
a juvenile prank.
Franken to maintain the "moral high ground." For all the good it
did..
On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 10:43:04 PM UTC-4, Freezer
wrote:
If I don't reply to this Ja-Son-Wan-Kenobi Has the High
Ground post, the terroists win.
Meanwhile, Al Franken had to resign from the Senate forTo be fair and honest; that was one was the Left sacrificing
simply a juvenile prank.
Franken to maintain the "moral high ground." For all the good
it did..
You're right. You're absolutely right.
It's just that the optics were SO Bad...
It wasn't like some "misuse of campaign funds" bushwah that
can be swept under the rug after a 24-hour newscycle. This
was going to hang around and smell like fish. thanks to the
hypocrites at Fox.
If I don't reply to this Ja-Son-Wan-Kenobi Has the High Ground
post, the terroists win.
On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 10:43:04⤯PM UTC-4, Freezer
wrote:
If I don't reply to this Ja-Son-Wan-Kenobi Has the High
Ground post, the terroists win.
Meanwhile, Al Franken had to resign from the Senate forTo be fair and honest; that was one was the Left sacrificing
simply a juvenile prank.
Franken to maintain the "moral high ground." For all the good
it did..
You're right. You're absolutely right.
It's just that the optics were SO Bad...
It wasn't like some "misuse of campaign funds" bushwah that
can be swept under the rug after a 24-hour newscycle. This
was going to hang around and smell like fish. thanks to the
hypocrites at Fox.
And rather than standing up to the RIght for once and letting
Franken make amends, they threw him under the self-righteous buss.
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