• SONNY LISTON VS JOE FRAZIER WHO WINS?

    From tpondysh@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 16 16:19:15 2019
    Nope,Liston at 6'1” ,218 lbs. Was at least as strong as foreman, and was a better boxer. The Ali Liston fought was far faster than the one Frazier met. Liston also had more reach and as much power as Foreman.George sparred with Liston and sayß Liston
    was the only man that forced him to back up in the ring.

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  • From Auric Hellman@21:1/5 to tpon...@gmail.com on Tue Mar 19 19:51:56 2019
    On Saturday, February 16, 2019 at 7:19:16 PM UTC-5, tpon...@gmail.com wrote:
    Nope,Liston at 6'1” ,218 lbs. Was at least as strong as foreman, and was a better boxer. The Ali Liston fought was far faster than the one Frazier met. Liston also had more reach and as much power as Foreman.George sparred with Liston and sayß
    Liston was the only man that forced him to back up in the ring.


    Gerry Cooney would have knocked both of them out, 3rd round at the latest.


    Dr. Auric D. Hellman
    adhellman@volcanomail.com

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  • From Ollie Ollio@21:1/5 to Ivan Weiss on Tue Oct 26 08:58:08 2021
    On Sunday, December 27, 1998 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, Ivan Weiss wrote:
    On 27 Dec 1998, lowes wrote:
    Frazier was BLOWN OUT by George Foreman at a time when Foreman's style emulated Liston's--in fact Liston was Foreman's idol. Liston possessed an awesome jab, was arguably the hardest puncher of the time, and as PMAD points out, Joe only knew one way to fight. Frazier had hoped to avenge the loss later in his career but was again CRUSHED by big George. At least he lasted a few rounds longer in the second match...Liston by early KO
    No disrespect intended, but that is nonsense. Foreman was *way* stronger
    than Liston and much heavier.
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    ?? Foreman weighed 220 and Liston 119... Liston far superior at everything including stamina. Liston mops up Foreman in 5

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