Boxing is scored round-by-round, and you can easily make
a case in a particular round that a particular boxer
scored more effective punches than the other. I've seen
many fights, going back, perhaps, to the first Ken
Norton-Muhammad Ali fight
Cool, way back in 1973 ...
where my scorecard differed from the officials and, yes,
I thought a fighter was robbed.
Indeed.
Actually, I mis-spoke. It was the second Norton-Ali fight
(also in 1973) that I thought was scored wrong. I thought
Norton should have won that fight. Their third and final
fight in 1976 was also very close, but that one really could
have gone either way.
Rick wrote:
Boxing is scored round-by-round, and you can easily make
a case in a particular round that a particular boxer
scored more effective punches than the other. I've seen
many fights, going back, perhaps, to the first Ken
Norton-Muhammad Ali fight
Cool, way back in 1973 ...
where my scorecard differed from the officials and, yes,
I thought a fighter was robbed.
Indeed.
Actually, I mis-spoke. It was the second Norton-Ali fight
(also in 1973) that I thought was scored wrong. I thought
Norton should have won that fight. Their third and final
fight in 1976 was also very close, but that one really could
have gone either way.
This was before my time, literally - I'm born in 1983 - so
I was just double ack'ing the existence of robberies in the
pro boxing circus.
Nevertheless, I have seen all (?) the big Ali fights ... and
while it was clear he was a remarkable man and athlete, if
anyone doubted that, for the boxing purist he did so much
holding, leaning, obstructing and pushing to the point some
fights were Ali standing wrestling matches rahter than hit and
don't get hit.
Maybe that was much more accepted in his era or he just got
away with it for being Ali (or because pro boxing was then
being controlled by Black muslims, who had taken it from the
mobster guys, however that happened - because of Ali himself,
maybe?) ...
referee: "Hey, don't hold, don't hold!"
commentator: "... well, that's easy for you to say"
Canelo Álvarez vs Matthew Hatton (2011)
:)
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Rick wrote:
Boxing is scored round-by-round, and you can easily make
a case in a particular round that a particular boxer
scored more effective punches than the other. I've seen
many fights, going back, perhaps, to the first Ken
Norton-Muhammad Ali fight
Cool, way back in 1973 ...
where my scorecard differed from the officials and, yes,
I thought a fighter was robbed.
Indeed.
Actually, I mis-spoke. It was the second Norton-Ali fight
(also in 1973) that I thought was scored wrong. I thought
Norton should have won that fight. Their third and final
fight in 1976 was also very close, but that one really could
have gone either way.
This was before my time, literally - I'm born in 1983 - so
I was just double ack'ing the existence of robberies in the
pro boxing circus.
Nevertheless, I have seen all (?) the big Ali fights ... and
while it was clear he was a remarkable man and athlete, if
anyone doubted that, for the boxing purist he did so much
holding, leaning, obstructing and pushing to the point some
fights were Ali standing wrestling matches rahter than hit and
don't get hit.
Maybe that was much more accepted in his era or he just got
away with it for being Ali (or because pro boxing was then
being controlled by Black muslims, who had taken it from the
mobster guys, however that happened - because of Ali himself,
maybe?) ...
referee: "Hey, don't hold, don't hold!"
commentator: "... well, that's easy for you to say"
Canelo Álvarez vs Matthew Hatton (2011)
:)
Great example of Ali holding on was in the Foreman fight in 1974 when he won the title back. His whole strategy that fight was to hold on and let Foreman punch himself out, which George eventually did.
I was born in 1951, by the way, so I watched Ali's entire career in
real-time and it was fascinating. In some ways he was at the peak of his skills in the 60s before he got drafted, but the three Frazier fights in the 70s are still pretty amazing to watch.
When a Kung Fu or Kick Boxing practitioner fight a boxer on
street, Kung Fu win absolutely. Do you agree?
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