• Re: Psst! Don't mention Afghanistan.

    From John Hall@21:1/5 to stevehague82@gmail.com on Tue Oct 17 10:57:09 2023
    In message <ugljmc$2sc3r$1@dont-email.me>, Steve Hague
    <stevehague82@gmail.com> writes
    So what went wrong? I suspect England were overconfident, and
    underestimated the Afghans.

    It could have been that, but the tentative way they played suggested
    rather a strange LACK of confidence. I wonder if they've been missing
    the machismo of Stokes and Roy. Most of the current eleven - with the
    most notable exception of Bairstow - seem more the shy and retiring
    type. Even in the 2019 World Cup, England wobbled badly when Roy was out
    of the side through injury.
    --
    John Hall
    "Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people
    from coughing."
    Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83)

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  • From Steve Hague@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 17 10:21:17 2023
    So what went wrong? I suspect England were overconfident, and
    underestimated the Afghans.

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  • From mike@21:1/5 to John Hall on Fri Oct 20 14:27:01 2023
    On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 10:59:22 AM UTC+1, John Hall wrote:
    In message <ugljmc$2sc3r$1...@dont-email.me>, Steve Hague <steveh...@gmail.com> writes
    So what went wrong? I suspect England were overconfident, and >underestimated the Afghans.
    It could have been that, but the tentative way they played suggested
    rather a strange LACK of confidence. I wonder if they've been missing
    the machismo of Stokes and Roy. Most of the current eleven - with the
    most notable exception of Bairstow - seem more the shy and retiring
    type. Even in the 2019 World Cup, England wobbled badly when Roy was out
    of the side through injury.
    --

    England are missing Archer from the 2019 bunch and it was only back
    in february that he took 6-40 against RSA, but how effective he would be
    in India even if he was fit is unknown. But you are right, under Buttler
    they do seem a bit tame, which is surprsing given that they won the t20
    just a year ago. And when interviewd all Mr B could offer was that he
    hoped things would be different and they could restart their campaign.

    Perhaps the Messiah will play, but if so they have to leave out Brook
    which seems daft since he was the only 1 who made any runs in the last.
    The pitch at Mumble is usually a belter so I fear for our bowlers after
    the hiding WOakes and Curran got last time.

    mike

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  • From max.it@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 21 12:15:50 2023
    On Fri, 20 Oct 2023 14:27:01 -0700 (PDT), mike <dmike204@yahoo.co.uk>
    wrote:

    On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 10:59:22?AM UTC+1, John Hall wrote:
    In message <ugljmc$2sc3r$1...@dont-email.me>, Steve Hague
    <steveh...@gmail.com> writes
    So what went wrong? I suspect England were overconfident, and
    underestimated the Afghans.
    It could have been that, but the tentative way they played suggested
    rather a strange LACK of confidence. I wonder if they've been missing
    the machismo of Stokes and Roy. Most of the current eleven - with the
    most notable exception of Bairstow - seem more the shy and retiring
    type. Even in the 2019 World Cup, England wobbled badly when Roy was out
    of the side through injury.
    --

    England are missing Archer from the 2019 bunch and it was only back
    in february that he took 6-40 against RSA, but how effective he would be
    in India even if he was fit is unknown. But you are right, under Buttler
    they do seem a bit tame, which is surprsing given that they won the t20
    just a year ago. And when interviewd all Mr B could offer was that he
    hoped things would be different and they could restart their campaign.

    Perhaps the Messiah will play, but if so they have to leave out Brook
    which seems daft since he was the only 1 who made any runs in the last.
    The pitch at Mumble is usually a belter so I fear for our bowlers after
    the hiding WOakes and Curran got last time.

    mike


    He hasn't bowled yet

    max.it

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