• Australian CONVICTS "CHEAT" AGAIN

    From FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 2 05:52:18 2023
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    Australian CONVICTS "CHEAT" AGAIN.



    Green to Bairstow, OUT

    another half-tracker, YJB ducks it, walks out of his crease to talk to
    his partner... and Carey then underarms into the stumps! The Australians
    are celebrating, Bairstow looks befuddled and we could have another
    flashpoint here! The batter clearly considered that the ball was dead,
    but Marais Erasmus is going to decide once again... And this one is
    given out! Boos around the ground as Bairstow stalks back to the
    dressing room. He wasn't attempting to take a run, but the ball wasn't
    dead either - at least as far as the umpires are concerned, which is the
    key factor

    Jonny Bairstow st †Carey b Green 10 (22b 2x4 0x6) SR: 45.45





    Carey runs out Bairstow in dramatic fashion | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkAHxxL4kSc



    WHY did Carey even throw the ball at the STUMPS, when Bairstow was STILL
    in the CREASE and NEVER EVEN attempted a run?

    At 3:24, Carey threw the ball at the stumps, BUT Bairstow was still
    INSIDE the crease and was marking with his RIGHT FOOT.


    May be max.it can shed some light on the rules BUT this is REALLY REALLY
    MUCH WORSE than mankading.

    Mankading was JUSTIFIED because batsmen were CHEATING gaining UNFAIR
    ADVANTAGE, while here Bairstow DIDN'T EVEN attempt to run and WASN'T
    TAKING ANY Advantage.

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  • From mz721@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 5 16:54:42 2023
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    Carey runs out Bairstow in dramatic fashion | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkAHxxL4kSc



    WHY did Carey even throw the ball at the STUMPS, when Bairstow was STILL
    in the CREASE and NEVER EVEN attempted a run?

    He threw it at the stumps because JB is in the habit of wandering out of
    his crease. Seems reasonable to me.


    At 3:24, Carey threw the ball at the stumps, BUT Bairstow was still
    INSIDE the crease and was marking with his RIGHT FOOT.

    I do no think the rules of cricket say that the batsman's right foot
    gets to signal end of the over. I thought that was the umpire's job.
    This may be true, that he was marking things, but it changes nothing.

    https://www.lords.org/mcc/the-laws-of-cricket/dead-ball

    "20.1.2 The ball shall be considered to be dead when it is clear to the bowler’s end umpire that the fielding side and both batters at the
    wicket have ceased to regard it as in play."

    Clearly the fielding side saw the ball as live. JB's back foot does not
    tell the fielding side when to stop playing.

    Carey had no way of knowing JB's plans because he threw the ball
    immediately. He did not throw it in response to JB's actions but in anticipation of them. JB should have shown the same awareness and stayed
    in his ground. England should be dirty on JB and his brain fade, not on
    Carey. Bairstow's lack of concentration probably cost them the game.



    May be max.it can shed some light on the rules BUT this is REALLY REALLY
    MUCH WORSE than mankading.

    Mankading was JUSTIFIED because batsmen were CHEATING gaining UNFAIR ADVANTAGE, while here Bairstow DIDN'T EVEN attempt to run and WASN'T
    TAKING ANY Advantage.


    Is a batsman who topples over and gets stumped off a spinner trying to
    take advantage? I mean, they are clearly not trying for a run. But are
    they still out? Yes. Your reasoning does not hold up.

    Starc's 'catch' was not out by the laws of the game. JB was out, by the
    same laws. The fact that JB tried for the same kind of dismissal earlier
    in the game and did not get it makes the whole thing even funnier.

    There's no story here. England players just throwing the toys out of the
    cot. England seem to think that their attitudes and interpretations
    should be followed by other teams and that the spirit of the game is
    whatever they say it is.

    England need to let the umpires do their job. For example, last English
    Ashes when Broad did not walk after that thick edge. He was 100% right.
    A batter can't call themselves in, why should they call themselves out?

    It is interesting to note the term "Australian convicts" in the headline
    of the original posting (not your response). Imagine if an anglo person
    had used a similarly pejorative term in a headline about the Indian,
    West Indies or Pakistan team... seems like hypocrisy is everywhere.

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