• How the British impoverished India

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    How the British impoverished India

    analysis

    Updated on Oct 30, 2018 01:02 PM IST

    When the Crown took over from the Company, from 1861 a clever system was developed under which all of India’s financial gold and forex earnings
    from its fast-rising commodity export surplus with the world, was
    intercepted and appropriated by Britain



    By Utsa Patnaik

    ‘How exactly did the British manage to diddle us and drain our wealth’ ? was the question that Basudev Chatterjee (later editor of a volume in
    the Towards Freedom project ) had posed to me 50 years ago when we were fellow-students abroad. After decades of research I find that using
    India’s commodity export surplus as the measure and applying an interest
    rate of 5%, the total drain from 1765 to 1938, compounded up to 2016,
    comes to £9.2 trillion; since $4.86 exchanged for £1 those days, this
    sum equals about $45 trillion.

    The exact mechanism of drain, or transfers from India to Britain was
    quite simple. The key factor was Britain’s control over our taxation
    revenues combined with control over India’s financial gold and forex
    earnings from its booming commodity export surplus with the world.
    Simply put, Britain used locally raised rupee tax revenues to pay for
    its net import of goods, a highly abnormal use of budgetary funds not
    seen in any sovereign country. The East India Company from 1765 onwards allocated every year up to one-third of Indian budgetary revenues net of collection costs, to buy a large volume of goods for direct import into Britain, far in excess of that country’s own needs. Since tropical goods
    were highly prized in other cold temperate countries which could never
    produce them, in effect these free goods represented international
    purchasing power for Britain which kept a part for its own use and
    re-exported the balance to other countries in Europe and North America
    against import of food grains, iron and other goods in which it was
    deficient. The British historians Phyllis Deane and WA Cole presented an incorrect estimate of Britain’s 18th-19th century trade volume, by
    leaving out re-exports completely. I found that by 1800 Britain’s total
    trade was 62% higher than their estimate, on applying the correct
    definition of trade including re-exports, that is used by the United
    Nations and by all other international organisations.

    When the Crown took over from the Company, from 1861 a clever system was developed under which all of India’s financial gold and forex earnings
    from its fast-rising commodity export surplus with the world, was
    intercepted and appropriated by Britain. As before up to a third of
    India’s rising budgetary revenues was not spent domestically but was set aside as ‘expenditure abroad’. The Secretary of State for India in
    Council, based in London, invited foreign importers to deposit with him
    the payment (in gold, sterling and their own currencies) for their net
    imports from India, and these gold and forex payments disappeared into
    the yawning maw of the SoS’s account in the Bank of England. Against India’s net foreign earnings he issued bills, termed Council bills
    (CBs), to an equivalent rupee value. The rate (between gold-linked
    sterling and silver rupee) at which the bills were issued, was carefully adjusted to the last farthing, so that foreigners would never find it
    more profitable to ship financial gold as payment directly to Indians,
    compared to using the CB route. Foreign importers then sent the CBs by
    post or by telegraph to the export houses in India, that via the
    exchange banks were paid out of the budgeted provision of sums under ‘expenditure abroad’, and the exporters in turn paid the producers (peasants and artisans) from whom they sourced the goods.

    The United Nations (1962) historical data for 1900 to 1960, show that
    for three decades up to 1928 (and very likely earlier too) India posted
    the second highest merchandise export surplus in the world, with USA in
    the first position. Not only were Indians deprived of every bit of the
    enormous international purchasing power they had earned over 175 years,
    even its rupee equivalent was not issued to them since not even the
    colonial government was credited with any part of India’s net gold and
    forex earnings against which it could issue rupees. The sleight-of-hand employed, namely ‘paying’ producers out of their own taxes, made India’s export surplus unrequited and constituted a tax-financed drain to the metropolis, as had been correctly pointed out by those highly insightful classical writers, Dadabhai Naoroji and RCDutt.

    Surplus budgets to effect such heavy tax-financed transfers had a severe employment–reducing and income-deflating effect: mass consumption was squeezed in order to release export goods. Per capita annual foodgrains absorption in British India declined from 210 kg. during the period
    1904-09, to 157 kg. during 1937-41, and to only 137 kg by 1946. If even
    a part of its enormous foreign earnings had been credited to it and not entirely siphoned off, India could have imported modern technology to
    build up an industrial structure as Japan was doing. Instead the masses suffered severe nutritional decline and independent India inherited a
    festering problem of unemployment and poverty.

    Utsa Patnaik is Professor Emeritus, Centre for Economic Studies and
    Planning, Jawaharlal Nehru University

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  • From hari kumar@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 21 19:55:04 2022
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    Isn't it more historically correct to say the mughal empire was
    impoverished? That empire which the brits came to control was the most prosperous in the history of s. asia?

    There was then, and not until the mid 20cetury did a political country
    named "india" exist.

    In fact nothing close in size in s. asia to the current country could be
    called "india". Nor was it called by anyone before the 17 century when the brits began to use the greek name derived from the indus river.

    The several hindu headed local small city states before the mughal empire
    never rose to the power and size and prosperity of it. Then the brits and others came.¬ >https://www.hindustantimes.com/analysis/how-the-british-impoverished-india/story-zidAo8pKyIrmO7UnBkcjfJ.html

    How the British impoverished India

    analysis

    Updated on Oct 30, 2018 01:02 PM IST

    When the Crown took over from the Company, from 1861 a clever system was >developed under which all of Indias financial gold and forex earnings
    from its fast-rising commodity export surplus with the world, was
    intercepted and appropriated by Britain



    By Utsa Patnaik

    How exactly did the British manage to diddle us and drain our wealth ?
    was the question that Basudev Chatterjee (later editor of a volume in
    the Towards Freedom project ) had posed to me 50 years ago when we were >fellow-students abroad. After decades of research I find that using
    Indias commodity export surplus as the measure and applying an interest
    rate of 5%, the total drain from 1765 to 1938, compounded up to 2016,
    comes to £9.2 trillion; since $4.86 exchanged for £1 those days, this
    sum equals about $45 trillion.

    The exact mechanism of drain, or transfers from India to Britain was
    quite simple. The key factor was Britains control over our taxation
    revenues combined with control over Indias financial gold and forex
    earnings from its booming commodity export surplus with the world.
    Simply put, Britain used locally raised rupee tax revenues to pay for
    its net import of goods, a highly abnormal use of budgetary funds not
    seen in any sovereign country. The East India Company from 1765 onwards >allocated every year up to one-third of Indian budgetary revenues net of >collection costs, to buy a large volume of goods for direct import into >Britain, far in excess of that countrys own needs. Since tropical goods
    were highly prized in other cold temperate countries which could never >produce them, in effect these free goods represented international
    purchasing power for Britain which kept a part for its own use and >re-exported the balance to other countries in Europe and North America >against import of food grains, iron and other goods in which it was >deficient. The British historians Phyllis Deane and WA Cole presented an >incorrect estimate of Britains 18th-19th century trade volume, by
    leaving out re-exports completely. I found that by 1800 Britains total
    trade was 62% higher than their estimate, on applying the correct
    definition of trade including re-exports, that is used by the United
    Nations and by all other international organisations.

    When the Crown took over from the Company, from 1861 a clever system was >developed under which all of Indias financial gold and forex earnings
    from its fast-rising commodity export surplus with the world, was
    intercepted and appropriated by Britain. As before up to a third of
    Indias rising budgetary revenues was not spent domestically but was set >aside as expenditure abroad. The Secretary of State for India in
    Council, based in London, invited foreign importers to deposit with him
    the payment (in gold, sterling and their own currencies) for their net >imports from India, and these gold and forex payments disappeared into
    the yawning maw of the SoSs account in the Bank of England. Against
    Indias net foreign earnings he issued bills, termed Council bills
    (CBs), to an equivalent rupee value. The rate (between gold-linked
    sterling and silver rupee) at which the bills were issued, was carefully >adjusted to the last farthing, so that foreigners would never find it
    more profitable to ship financial gold as payment directly to Indians, >compared to using the CB route. Foreign importers sent the CBs by
    post or by telegraph to the export houses in India, that via the
    exchange banks were paid out of the budgeted provision of sums under >expenditure abroad, and the exporters in turn paid the producers
    (peasants and artisans) from whom they sourced the goods.

    The United Nations (1962) historical data for 1900 to 1960, show that
    for three decades up to 1928 (and very likely earlier too) India posted
    the second highest merchandise export surplus in the world, with USA in
    the first position. Not only were Indians deprived of every bit of the >enormous international purchasing power they had earned over 175 years,
    even its rupee equivalent was not issued to them since not even the
    colonial government was credited with any part of Indias net gold and
    forex earnings against which it could issue rupees. The sleight-of-hand >employed, namely paying producers out of their own taxes, made Indias >export surplus unrequited and constituted a tax-financed drain to the >metropolis, as had been correctly pointed out by those highly insightful >classical writers, Dadabhai Naoroji and RCDutt.

    Surplus budgets to effect such heavy tax-financed transfers had a severe >employmentreducing and income-deflating effect: mass consumption was >squeezed in order to release export goods. Per capita annual foodgrains >absorption in British India declined from 210 kg. during the period
    1904-09, to 157 kg. during 1937-41, and to only 137 kg by 1946. If even
    a part of its enormous foreign earnings had been credited to it and not >entirely siphoned off, India could have imported modern technology to
    build up an industrial structure as Japan was doing. Instead the masses >suffered severe nutritional decline and independent India inherited a >festering problem of unemployment and poverty.

    Utsa Patnaik is Professor Emeritus, Centre for Economic Studies and
    Planning, Jawaharlal Nehru University

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  • From FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer@21:1/5 to hari kumar on Sat Oct 22 23:35:19 2022
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    On 10/21/2022 12:55 PM, hari kumar wrote:
    Isn't it more historically correct to say the mughal empire was
    impoverished? That empire which the brits came to control was the most prosperous in the history of s. asia?

    There was then, and not until the mid 20cetury did a political country
    named "india" exist.

    In fact nothing close in size in s. asia to the current country could be called "india". Nor was it called by anyone before the 17 century when the brits began to use the greek name derived from the indus river.

    The several hindu headed local small city states before the mughal empire never rose to the power and size and prosperity of it. Then the brits and others came.Ā¬



    It's a complete WASTE OF TIME arguing with a cretin who SUCKS
    pathologically lying cunning poisonous S varadarajan's DICK.


    FUCK OFF.




    https://www.hindustantimes.com/analysis/how-the-british-impoverished-india/story-zidAo8pKyIrmO7UnBkcjfJ.html

    How the British impoverished India

    analysis

    Updated on Oct 30, 2018 01:02 PM IST

    When the Crown took over from the Company, from 1861 a clever system was
    developed under which all of Indiaās financial gold and forex earnings >>from its fast-rising commodity export surplus with the world, was
    intercepted and appropriated by Britain



    By Utsa Patnaik

    āHow exactly did the British manage to diddle us and drain our wealthā ? >> was the question that Basudev Chatterjee (later editor of a volume in
    the Towards Freedom project ) had posed to me 50 years ago when we were
    fellow-students abroad. After decades of research I find that using
    Indiaās commodity export surplus as the measure and applying an interest
    rate of 5%, the total drain from 1765 to 1938, compounded up to 2016,
    comes to Ā£9.2 trillion; since $4.86 exchanged for Ā£1 those days, this >> sum equals about $45 trillion.

    The exact mechanism of drain, or transfers from India to Britain was
    quite simple. The key factor was Britainās control over our taxation
    revenues combined with control over Indiaās financial gold and forex
    earnings from its booming commodity export surplus with the world.
    Simply put, Britain used locally raised rupee tax revenues to pay for
    its net import of goods, a highly abnormal use of budgetary funds not
    seen in any sovereign country. The East India Company from 1765 onwards
    allocated every year up to one-third of Indian budgetary revenues net of
    collection costs, to buy a large volume of goods for direct import into
    Britain, far in excess of that countryās own needs. Since tropical goods
    were highly prized in other cold temperate countries which could never
    produce them, in effect these free goods represented international
    purchasing power for Britain which kept a part for its own use and
    re-exported the balance to other countries in Europe and North America
    against import of food grains, iron and other goods in which it was
    deficient. The British historians Phyllis Deane and WA Cole presented an
    incorrect estimate of Britainās 18th-19th century trade volume, by
    leaving out re-exports completely. I found that by 1800 Britainās total
    trade was 62% higher than their estimate, on applying the correct
    definition of trade including re-exports, that is used by the United
    Nations and by all other international organisations.

    When the Crown took over from the Company, from 1861 a clever system was
    developed under which all of Indiaās financial gold and forex earnings >>from its fast-rising commodity export surplus with the world, was
    intercepted and appropriated by Britain. As before up to a third of
    Indiaās rising budgetary revenues was not spent domestically but was set
    aside as āexpenditure abroadā. The Secretary of State for India in
    Council, based in London, invited foreign importers to deposit with him
    the payment (in gold, sterling and their own currencies) for their net
    imports from India, and these gold and forex payments disappeared into
    the yawning maw of the SoSās account in the Bank of England. Against
    Indiaās net foreign earnings he issued bills, termed Council bills
    (CBs), to an equivalent rupee value. The rate (between gold-linked
    sterling and silver rupee) at which the bills were issued, was carefully
    adjusted to the last farthing, so that foreigners would never find it
    more profitable to ship financial gold as payment directly to Indians,
    compared to using the CB route. Foreign importers sent the CBs by
    post or by telegraph to the export houses in India, that via the
    exchange banks were paid out of the budgeted provision of sums under
    āexpenditure abroadā, and the exporters in turn paid the producers
    (peasants and artisans) from whom they sourced the goods.

    The United Nations (1962) historical data for 1900 to 1960, show that
    for three decades up to 1928 (and very likely earlier too) India posted
    the second highest merchandise export surplus in the world, with USA in
    the first position. Not only were Indians deprived of every bit of the
    enormous international purchasing power they had earned over 175 years,
    even its rupee equivalent was not issued to them since not even the
    colonial government was credited with any part of Indiaās net gold and
    forex earnings against which it could issue rupees. The sleight-of-hand
    employed, namely āpayingā producers out of their own taxes, made Indiaās >> export surplus unrequited and constituted a tax-financed drain to the
    metropolis, as had been correctly pointed out by those highly insightful
    classical writers, Dadabhai Naoroji and RCDutt.

    Surplus budgets to effect such heavy tax-financed transfers had a severe
    employmentāreducing and income-deflating effect: mass consumption was
    squeezed in order to release export goods. Per capita annual foodgrains
    absorption in British India declined from 210 kg. during the period
    1904-09, to 157 kg. during 1937-41, and to only 137 kg by 1946. If even
    a part of its enormous foreign earnings had been credited to it and not
    entirely siphoned off, India could have imported modern technology to
    build up an industrial structure as Japan was doing. Instead the masses
    suffered severe nutritional decline and independent India inherited a
    festering problem of unemployment and poverty.

    Utsa Patnaik is Professor Emeritus, Centre for Economic Studies and
    Planning, Jawaharlal Nehru University

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