• Langer Bashing Continues - SMH 26Aug21

    From alvey@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 26 11:24:13 2021
    Despite JL getting recent support from Captain Tim, those good ol' SCG
    members Malcolm Conn & Daniel Brettig continue to smear their sourceless
    shit over the coach.

    "Patient knocks: Mutiny was two years in making

    An emergency meeting between Cricket Australia and team leaders came two
    years after concerns about Justin Langer¢s approach were first raised,
    write Malcolm Conn and Daniel Brettig.

    Afull-scale mutiny of players and support staff was needed for Cricket Australia to notice a fundamental problem with Justin Langer¢s intense and abrasive coaching style.

    Despite spending $100,000 on two reviews, it took an emergency meeting with team leaders last week for CA chairman Earl Eddings and recently appointed chief executive Nick Hockley to find out an implosion was taking place
    heading into an Ashes summer.

    During this hook-up, Test captain Tim Paine, white-ball skipper Aaron Finch
    and vice-captain Pat Cummins repeated what players and support staff had
    been saying for more than two years: Langer was wearing everyone out. This
    has been compounded by players and support staff feeling his management offsiders Ben Oliver and Gavin Dovey are too close to Langer to objectively challenge him.

    In 2018, CA hired leadership consultant Tim Ford to help the reintegration
    of Steve Smith and David Warner into the team following their year-long suspension over Sandpapergate.

    This process was devised to lead to a ¡¡clear the air¢¢ meeting between all parties in the UAE before a limited-overs series against Pakistan.
    According to multiple sources, it evolved into an avenue to raise concerns about the coach. Held in Dubai as Smith and Warner were heading to their
    IPL franchises and the Australian oneday team was returning from a tour of India, one player said it became a ¡¡hey Tim, while you¢re here, can we
    talk about the coach?¢¢ session.

    This followed scenes in the Amazon documentary The Test that depicted Tim Paine, Usman Khawaja and Peter Handscomb all conveying feedback to Langer
    at the end of the Boxing Day Test defeat to India in December 2018. Nathan
    Lyon was also shown commenting, light-heartedly, on the fact it had been unusual to see the head coach with a ¡¡smile on his face¢¢ during the final Test of the home summer against Sri Lanka in Canberra. Langer took on the feedback and on The Test says: ¡¡This is my year of letting go.¢¢

    But he struggled to put those words into action on the 2019 World Cup and
    Ashes tour, when players complained regularly about the coach¢s demeanour.
    In mitigation, Langer spent much of the trip struggling with inner-ear problems, to the point he was unable to front the players to tell them
    which ones had made the cut for the Ashes tour following an internal trial match.

    At this point, overall accountability for the performance of the Australian men¢s side passed from the interim boss Belinda Clark, who had replaced Pat Howard in late 2018, to new ¡¡head of national teams¢¢ Oliver, chosen after years of working alongside Langer in Western Australia.

    Meanwhile, Langer¢s close friend and team manager Dovey was promoted from a logistical role to high-performance management on the road.

    The 2019 tour was celebrated for Australia retaining the Ashes in England
    for the first time since 2001, but it was a wasted opportunity. The series
    was drawn 2-2 but, as clearly the better side, Australia should have won
    it.

    Multiple sources confirmed that informal discussion of the team environment went on after the Ashes and before the home summer, when Pakistan and New Zealand were soundly beaten.

    Just who received the original Ford review remains a mystery because
    nothing changed, so when CA brought him back for a ¡¡values¢¢ review after
    the Test series loss to India early this year, the players and support
    staff insisted it go straight to the CA board.

    They wanted the men and women who run Australian cricket to be in no doubt
    that an old-style footy coach was not the way forward in the age of claustrophobic cricket.

    Players and support staff spoken to by the Herald made it clear they took
    the opportunity to be frank about how they felt the coach was wearing
    people down.

    The upshot was the hiring of two more senior assistant coaches, Michael Di Venuto and Jeff Vaughan, to create further room between the coach and the players.

    Langer also received what Finch described at a press conference as ¡¡confronting¢¢ feedback during a pre-season gathering on the Gold Coast
    two months ago.

    Langer¢s take on that feedback was it had come as a total surprise. This
    was completely at odds with what players and support staff had been saying
    for more than two years. Just last week, Eddings and Hockley needed an emergency meeting to be told all this again.

    Even then, Hockley put out a statement hours before the meeting, praising Langer.

    This further angered players and support staff spoken to by the Herald, who felt CA was being dismissive of their team leaders by pre-empting an
    emergency meeting seen as a last resort to address the squad¢s greatest
    issue.

    They have no faith in how Cricket Australia will heal what has become a
    weeping sore."

    Jernalism at its finest.

    Given that the only senior Test players (aside from Paine) are all NSW
    players you don't need to be Holmes, S to deduce where the anti-Langer
    smears are coming from.

    Sydney, the only thing it's good for is exporting Covid delta. Bah!


    alvey

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  • From Mike Holmans@21:1/5 to alvey on Thu Aug 26 05:44:26 2021
    On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 11:24:13 +1000, alvey <alvey@is.invalid> wrote:


    Despite JL getting recent support from Captain Tim, those good ol' SCG >members Malcolm Conn & Daniel Brettig continue to smear their sourceless
    shit over the coach.
    The Guardian carried a piece the other day from a Melbourne-based
    writer saying much the same things.

    You can either hire a new coach or replace the current players with
    ones who will get on with Langer.

    Langer's sole qualification to coach the Test team is that he played
    100 Tests. His previous attempts at coaching teams have been
    disastrous, with players who have options (as with English county
    players who can find another county) making beelines for the exit as
    soon as they can find another home and those who can't find another
    gig spend their time complaining as the results go down the toilet.

    Whatever his other qualities, he's a fucking awful coach. Why you're
    so desperate to defend this hopeless bozo is quite beyond me.

    Cheers,

    Mike

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  • From Mike Holmans@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 26 05:35:36 2021
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  • From alvey@21:1/5 to Mike Holmans on Thu Aug 26 18:08:05 2021
    On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 05:44:26 +0100, Mike Holmans wrote:

    On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 11:24:13 +1000, alvey <alvey@is.invalid> wrote:


    Despite JL getting recent support from Captain Tim, those good ol' SCG >>members Malcolm Conn & Daniel Brettig continue to smear their sourceless >>shit over the coach.
    The Guardian carried a piece the other day from a Melbourne-based
    writer saying much the same things.

    Could I have a cite pliz?

    You can either hire a new coach or replace the current players with
    ones who will get on with Langer.

    Perhaps you could tell me exactly which players are the ones who don't "get
    on" with Langer?

    Langer's sole qualification to coach the Test team is that he played
    100 Tests.

    Aside from his successful stints as WA Shield & Perth Scorchers, that 100
    Tests as a player was more than the only coach Oz has ever had who *wasn't* subject to 'our' biased & rotten press. RB Simpson. Born and bred in, guess where!
    [Ironically some of the *alleged* characteristics that have been used to
    beat JL with were also present in Simpson. Characteristics he was lauded
    for bringing to the national team].

    His previous attempts at coaching teams have been
    disastrous, with players who have options (as with English county
    players who can find another county) making beelines for the exit as
    soon as they can find another home and those who can't find another
    gig spend their time complaining as the results go down the toilet.

    Whatever his other qualities, he's a fucking awful coach.

    Really? In two of his three season as WA coach he took them to the Shield final, including their first in 15 seasons. And in his tenure as Scorchers coach they absolutely dominated the BBL.

    These are facts Micheal and not the baseless assertion technique you are sharing here with the likes of Conn and crew.

    Why you're so desperate to defend this hopeless bozo is quite beyond me.

    Easy. Blatant double standards, gutter journalism and imo, that the leaks coming from inside the team are coming convicted ball-tamperers, serial chokers, mouth-breathers and prima donnas. aka, the NSW contingent.


    cheers
    alvey

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  • From Mike Holmans@21:1/5 to alvey on Thu Aug 26 14:56:58 2021
    On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 18:08:05 +1000, alvey <alvey@is.invalid> wrote:

    On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 05:44:26 +0100, Mike Holmans wrote:

    On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 11:24:13 +1000, alvey <alvey@is.invalid> wrote:


    Despite JL getting recent support from Captain Tim, those good ol' SCG >>>members Malcolm Conn & Daniel Brettig continue to smear their sourceless >>>shit over the coach.
    The Guardian carried a piece the other day from a Melbourne-based
    writer saying much the same things.

    Could I have a cite pliz?

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/aug/23/justin-langers-relationship-with-australian-cricketers-is-cooked

    Cheers,

    Mike

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  • From Mike Holmans@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 26 15:49:21 2021
    On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 14:56:58 +0100, Mike Holmans <spam@jackalope.uk>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 18:08:05 +1000, alvey <alvey@is.invalid> wrote:

    On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 05:44:26 +0100, Mike Holmans wrote:

    On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 11:24:13 +1000, alvey <alvey@is.invalid> wrote:


    Despite JL getting recent support from Captain Tim, those good ol' SCG >>>>members Malcolm Conn & Daniel Brettig continue to smear their sourceless >>>>shit over the coach.
    The Guardian carried a piece the other day from a Melbourne-based
    writer saying much the same things.

    Could I have a cite pliz?

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/aug/23/justin-langers-relationship-with-australian-cricketers-is-cooked


    Re-reading the article, I'm reminded of the Peter Moores saga. He was
    appointed England coach on the strength of having coached a number of
    young players into being the sort of player who deserved a go to see
    how he got on as an international.

    He then proved that his methods were also successful at coaching very
    good Test players into being the sort of player who deserved a go to
    see how they got on.

    Fortunately for all concerned, the ECB saddled Moores with KP as
    captain, with results so dire that they could sack both of them at the
    same time.

    Cheers,

    Mike

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  • From John Hall@21:1/5 to spam@jackalope.uk on Thu Aug 26 21:26:24 2021
    In message <11afig9s5mpfsbn4eo9if6k73lb4j25vq6@4ax.com>, Mike Holmans <spam@jackalope.uk> writes
    Re-reading the article, I'm reminded of the Peter Moores saga. He was >appointed England coach on the strength of having coached a number of
    young players into being the sort of player who deserved a go to see
    how he got on as an international.

    He then proved that his methods were also successful at coaching very
    good Test players into being the sort of player who deserved a go to
    see how they got on.

    Fortunately for all concerned, the ECB saddled Moores with KP as
    captain, with results so dire that they could sack both of them at the
    same time.

    It's true that he was a disaster as England coach. But he seems to have
    done a really good job at Nottinghamshire in helping Hameed to rebuild
    his game, for which all England supporters should be grateful. It might
    be that he's a much better coach now than he was six years ago.
    --
    John Hall "Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always
    pays off now." Anon

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  • From alvey@21:1/5 to Mike Holmans on Fri Aug 27 07:41:46 2021
    On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 14:56:58 +0100, Mike Holmans wrote:

    On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 18:08:05 +1000, alvey <alvey@is.invalid> wrote:

    On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 05:44:26 +0100, Mike Holmans wrote:

    On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 11:24:13 +1000, alvey <alvey@is.invalid> wrote:


    Despite JL getting recent support from Captain Tim, those good ol' SCG >>>>members Malcolm Conn & Daniel Brettig continue to smear their sourceless >>>>shit over the coach.
    The Guardian carried a piece the other day from a Melbourne-based
    writer saying much the same things.

    Could I have a cite pliz?

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/aug/23/justin-langers-relationship-with-australian-cricketers-is-cooked


    Ahh. That'd be the Sam Perry who was born and raised in Sinney, played
    Grade in Sinney, graduated from Sinney Uni, has written for the SMH &
    Foxtel and is mates with the aforesneered Daniel Bretting.

    I can see why his bio reads "Melb based".


    alvey

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  • From Mike Holmans@21:1/5 to john_nospam@jhall.co.uk on Thu Aug 26 22:17:59 2021
    On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 21:26:24 +0100, John Hall
    <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> wrote:

    In message <11afig9s5mpfsbn4eo9if6k73lb4j25vq6@4ax.com>, Mike Holmans ><spam@jackalope.uk> writes
    Re-reading the article, I'm reminded of the Peter Moores saga. He was >>appointed England coach on the strength of having coached a number of
    young players into being the sort of player who deserved a go to see
    how he got on as an international.

    He then proved that his methods were also successful at coaching very
    good Test players into being the sort of player who deserved a go to
    see how they got on.

    Fortunately for all concerned, the ECB saddled Moores with KP as
    captain, with results so dire that they could sack both of them at the
    same time.

    It's true that he was a disaster as England coach. But he seems to have
    done a really good job at Nottinghamshire in helping Hameed to rebuild
    his game, for which all England supporters should be grateful. It might
    be that he's a much better coach now than he was six years ago.

    No. He was a brilliant county-level coach before he was appointed to
    the England job. What he's brilliant at is taking raw material and
    moulding it so that it's ready to play international cricket.

    International players should not need technical coaching. They got
    selected because they already have the technical skills which someone
    like Moores is superb at developing. International-level coaches watch
    them play and diagnose the problems they are having and then have a
    chat which helps the player himself work out what solution will best
    work for him without screwing up the rest of his game.

    Cheers,

    Mike

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  • From alvey@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 27 08:09:36 2021
    On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 15:49:21 +0100, Mike Holmans wrote:

    btw... The Conn has now expanded his attack to include one who has publicly supported Langer and, even more despicably, alluded to the Test players who
    are back-stabbing Langer as "back-stabbers".

    Todays SMH.

    "Usman facing sticky wicket after claims of treachery
    CRICKET
    MALCOLM CONN

    Veteran batsman Usman Khawaja could have an awkward return to the
    Australian dressing room after suggesting players were stabbing besieged
    coach Justin Langer in the back.

    Some players spoken to by the Herald are unhappy with the reference Khawaja made during a video posted on his YouTube channel this week, in which he discussed his relationship with the coach.

    In the video, Khawaja said: ¡¥¡¥How do you think JL feels? He probably feels like the guys in the team are stabbing him in the back. And that¡¦s what it looks like.¡¦¡¦

    However, Khawaja explained yesterday that he was simply putting himself in
    the coach¡¦s shoes, not making accusations.

    ¡¥¡¥I was wondering how he was feeling,¡¦¡¦ Khawaja told the Herald. ¡¥¡¥I was simply trying to be respectful, and I felt bad for JL. He comes from a good place. I encourage everyone to watch the video, so they can get the full context of what I¡¦m saying.¡¦¡¦

    The stylish left-hander is among the favourites to fill one of the holes in Australia¡¦s batting line-up this Ashes summer if he starts the Sheffield Shield season well. He averaged 59 as Queensland captain last summer.

    With Langer¡¦s intensive and abrasive coaching raising heightened concerns among players and support staff, and Khawaja seen as an example because of
    his confrontation with the coach in The Test documentary, Khawaja decided
    to post the video.

    It came days after increasing disenchantment about Langer¡¦s coaching style came to a head at an emergency meeting of Cricket Australia bosses and
    leaders of the national teams.

    Cricket Australia chairman Earl Eddings and chief executive Nick Hockley
    hooked up with Test captain Tim Paine, white ball captain Aaron Finch and vice-captain Pat Cummins.

    Strangely, Hockley put out a statement before the meeting saying Langer
    would see out his contract, which ends in the middle of next year,
    following the Twenty20 World Cup and the Ashes. An uneasy truce ensued,
    with Paine saying on his Hobart SEN radio show that the players and coach
    would be going forward together during the next six months. Neither Hockley
    nor Paine made any reference to Langer¡¦s future beyond his current
    contract.

    Khawaja said that in spite of his confrontation with Langer early in his coaching tenure, their relationship was ¡¥¡¥really good¡¦¡¦.

    ¡¥¡¥I still talk to him, I still text him here and there,¡¦¡¦ Khawaja said on the YouTube video. ¡¥¡¥That¡¦s because we have a lot of respect for each other.¡¦¡¦

    Khawaja also added perspective to his dropping midway through the 2019
    Ashes series.

    ¡¥¡¥People think I got dropped because I spoke up to him, stood up to him and all these other things,¡¦¡¦ Khawaja said. ¡¥¡¥It¡¦s actually quite the opposite.
    I feel like I became closer with him. I feel like he gained my respect and
    I gained his respect because we had some really open and honest
    conversations together.

    ¡¥¡¥So let¡¦s just stop it right there. There were two people who dropped me for the Ashes, [then chairman of selectors] Trevor Hohn and JL, so it
    wasn¡¦t just JL.¡¦¡¦

    Khawaja is considered a strong chance to regain his place in the Test side, either as David Warner¡¦s opening partner or at No.5 in place of Matthew
    Wade.

    It is telling the selectors named just three specialist Test batsmen in the contract list this year

    ¡V Warner, Marnus Labuschagne and Steve Smith ¡V after a disappointing series loss to India.

    Khawaja averages 41 in 44 Tests with eight hundreds. He hit six of those in Australia, where he averages almost 53. But his overseas record is disappointing, averaging under 29 from 20 Tests."

    What a little bitch Conn is.


    alvey

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  • From mike@21:1/5 to alvey on Thu Aug 26 16:05:40 2021
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 11:09:39 PM UTC+1, alvey wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 15:49:21 +0100, Mike Holmans wrote:

    btw... The Conn has now expanded his attack to include one who has publicly supported Langer and, even more despicably, alluded to the Test players who are back-stabbing Langer as "back-stabbers".

    Todays SMH.

    "Usman facing sticky wicket after claims of treachery
    CRICKET
    MALCOLM CONN

    Veteran batsman Usman Khawaja could have an awkward return to the
    Australian dressing room after suggesting players were stabbing besieged coach Justin Langer in the back.

    Some players spoken to by the Herald are unhappy with the reference Khawaja made during a video posted on his YouTube channel this week, in which he discussed his relationship with the coach.

    In the video, Khawaja said: ‘‘How do you think JL feels? He probably feels
    like the guys in the team are stabbing him in the back. And that’s what it looks like.’’

    However, Khawaja explained yesterday that he was simply putting himself in the coach’s shoes, not making accusations.

    ‘‘I was wondering how he was feeling,’’ Khawaja told the Herald. ‘‘I was
    simply trying to be respectful, and I felt bad for JL. He comes from a good place. I encourage everyone to watch the video, so they can get the full context of what I’m saying.’’

    The stylish left-hander is among the favourites to fill one of the holes in Australia’s batting line-up this Ashes summer if he starts the Sheffield Shield season well. He averaged 59 as Queensland captain last summer.

    With Langer’s intensive and abrasive coaching raising heightened concerns among players and support staff, and Khawaja seen as an example because of his confrontation with the coach in The Test documentary, Khawaja decided
    to post the video.

    It came days after increasing disenchantment about Langer’s coaching style came to a head at an emergency meeting of Cricket Australia bosses and leaders of the national teams.

    Cricket Australia chairman Earl Eddings and chief executive Nick Hockley hooked up with Test captain Tim Paine, white ball captain Aaron Finch and vice-captain Pat Cummins.

    Strangely, Hockley put out a statement before the meeting saying Langer would see out his contract, which ends in the middle of next year,
    following the Twenty20 World Cup and the Ashes. An uneasy truce ensued,
    with Paine saying on his Hobart SEN radio show that the players and coach would be going forward together during the next six months. Neither Hockley nor Paine made any reference to Langer’s future beyond his current contract.

    Khawaja said that in spite of his confrontation with Langer early in his coaching tenure, their relationship was ‘‘really good’’.

    ‘‘I still talk to him, I still text him here and there,’’ Khawaja said on
    the YouTube video. ‘‘That’s because we have a lot of respect for each other.’’

    Khawaja also added perspective to his dropping midway through the 2019
    Ashes series.

    ‘‘People think I got dropped because I spoke up to him, stood up to him and
    all these other things,’’ Khawaja said. ‘‘It’s actually quite the opposite.
    I feel like I became closer with him. I feel like he gained my respect and
    I gained his respect because we had some really open and honest conversations together.

    ‘‘So let’s just stop it right there. There were two people who dropped me
    for the Ashes, [then chairman of selectors] Trevor Hohn and JL, so it wasn’t just JL.’’

    Khawaja is considered a strong chance to regain his place in the Test side, either as David Warner’s opening partner or at No.5 in place of Matthew Wade.

    It is telling the selectors named just three specialist Test batsmen in the contract list this year

    – Warner, Marnus Labuschagne and Steve Smith – after a disappointing series
    loss to India.

    Khawaja averages 41 in 44 Tests with eight hundreds. He hit six of those in Australia, where he averages almost 53. But his overseas record is disappointing, averaging under 29 from 20 Tests."

    What a little bitch Conn is.


    alvey

    if they do ditch Langer, do they have a candidate lined up to replace him?

    Gillespie was very successful at Yorkshire and many thought he turned down
    the england job so he would be available for the oz coach, but seems he
    got the vibes wrong and ended up at PNG. But hes at Adelaide now, although
    SA didnt do that well last season in the SS. Like they didnt win a match I think.

    mike

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  • From Dechucka@21:1/5 to mike on Fri Aug 27 10:10:51 2021
    On 27/08/2021 9:05 am, mike wrote:
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 11:09:39 PM UTC+1, alvey wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 15:49:21 +0100, Mike Holmans wrote:

    btw... The Conn has now expanded his attack to include one who has publicly >> supported Langer and, even more despicably, alluded to the Test players who >> are back-stabbing Langer as "back-stabbers".

    Todays SMH.

    "Usman facing sticky wicket after claims of treachery
    CRICKET
    MALCOLM CONN

    Veteran batsman Usman Khawaja could have an awkward return to the
    Australian dressing room after suggesting players were stabbing besieged
    coach Justin Langer in the back.

    Some players spoken to by the Herald are unhappy with the reference Khawaja >> made during a video posted on his YouTube channel this week, in which he
    discussed his relationship with the coach.

    In the video, Khawaja said: ‘‘How do you think JL feels? He probably feels
    like the guys in the team are stabbing him in the back. And that’s what it >> looks like.’’

    However, Khawaja explained yesterday that he was simply putting himself in >> the coach’s shoes, not making accusations.

    ‘‘I was wondering how he was feeling,’’ Khawaja told the Herald. ‘‘I was
    simply trying to be respectful, and I felt bad for JL. He comes from a good >> place. I encourage everyone to watch the video, so they can get the full
    context of what I’m saying.’’

    The stylish left-hander is among the favourites to fill one of the holes in >> Australia’s batting line-up this Ashes summer if he starts the Sheffield >> Shield season well. He averaged 59 as Queensland captain last summer.

    With Langer’s intensive and abrasive coaching raising heightened concerns >> among players and support staff, and Khawaja seen as an example because of >> his confrontation with the coach in The Test documentary, Khawaja decided
    to post the video.

    It came days after increasing disenchantment about Langer’s coaching style >> came to a head at an emergency meeting of Cricket Australia bosses and
    leaders of the national teams.

    Cricket Australia chairman Earl Eddings and chief executive Nick Hockley
    hooked up with Test captain Tim Paine, white ball captain Aaron Finch and
    vice-captain Pat Cummins.

    Strangely, Hockley put out a statement before the meeting saying Langer
    would see out his contract, which ends in the middle of next year,
    following the Twenty20 World Cup and the Ashes. An uneasy truce ensued,
    with Paine saying on his Hobart SEN radio show that the players and coach
    would be going forward together during the next six months. Neither Hockley >> nor Paine made any reference to Langer’s future beyond his current
    contract.

    Khawaja said that in spite of his confrontation with Langer early in his
    coaching tenure, their relationship was ‘‘really good’’.

    ‘‘I still talk to him, I still text him here and there,’’ Khawaja said on
    the YouTube video. ‘‘That’s because we have a lot of respect for each >> other.’’

    Khawaja also added perspective to his dropping midway through the 2019
    Ashes series.

    ‘‘People think I got dropped because I spoke up to him, stood up to him and
    all these other things,’’ Khawaja said. ‘‘It’s actually quite the opposite.
    I feel like I became closer with him. I feel like he gained my respect and >> I gained his respect because we had some really open and honest
    conversations together.

    ‘‘So let’s just stop it right there. There were two people who dropped me
    for the Ashes, [then chairman of selectors] Trevor Hohn and JL, so it
    wasn’t just JL.’’

    Khawaja is considered a strong chance to regain his place in the Test side, >> either as David Warner’s opening partner or at No.5 in place of Matthew
    Wade.

    It is telling the selectors named just three specialist Test batsmen in the >> contract list this year

    – Warner, Marnus Labuschagne and Steve Smith – after a disappointing series
    loss to India.

    Khawaja averages 41 in 44 Tests with eight hundreds. He hit six of those in >> Australia, where he averages almost 53. But his overseas record is
    disappointing, averaging under 29 from 20 Tests."

    What a little bitch Conn is.


    alvey

    if they do ditch Langer, do they have a candidate lined up to replace him?

    If it was up to Alvey anyone from Queensland, maybe Annastacia
    Palaszczuk who will keep any Victorians or NSWelshmen out. Excellent job
    at the moment


    Gillespie was very successful at Yorkshire and many thought he turned down the england job so he would be available for the oz coach, but seems he
    got the vibes wrong and ended up at PNG. But hes at Adelaide now, although
    SA didnt do that well last season in the SS. Like they didnt win a match I think.

    Phil Jaques is the obvious choice ;-) ducks

    mike


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  • From alvey@21:1/5 to Dechucka on Fri Aug 27 18:46:46 2021
    On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 10:10:51 +1000, Dechucka wrote:


    Phil Jaques is the obvious choice ;-) ducks

    Phil Jaques Trivia:

    After coaching Qld to 4th and 5th respectively in his two years here as
    coach, Qld won the Shield the season immediately after his unscheduled, and much celebrated, scuttling back to Sinney. His first appearance in a Shield final really inspired the players. Unfortunately for Phil it was the Qld players he inspired to their thrashing of his current side featuring their "world class" bowling.


    alvey

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  • From Dechucka@21:1/5 to alvey on Fri Aug 27 18:52:07 2021
    On 27/08/2021 6:46 pm, alvey wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 10:10:51 +1000, Dechucka wrote:


    Phil Jaques is the obvious choice ;-) ducks

    Phil Jaques Trivia:

    After coaching Qld to 4th and 5th respectively in his two years here as coach, Qld won the Shield the season immediately after his unscheduled, and much celebrated, scuttling back to Sinney. His first appearance in a Shield final really inspired the players. Unfortunately for Phil it was the Qld players he inspired to their thrashing of his current side featuring their "world class" bowling.


    alvey



    OK I'll stick with Annastacia Palaszczuk who will keep any Victorians or NSWelshmen out. Excellent job at the moment

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  • From John Hall@21:1/5 to Dechucka1@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 27 10:27:10 2021
    In message <Qv-dncIWArcnOrX8nZ2dnUU7-LPNnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> writes
    OK I'll stick with Annastacia Palaszczuk who will keep any Victorians
    or NSWelshmen out. Excellent job at the moment

    Journalists will hope he doesn't get the job. It's not a name they'll
    want to have to spell too often. :) (Or should that be "she"?
    Annastacia looks like a female name.)
    --
    John Hall "Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always
    pays off now." Anon

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  • From Dechucka@21:1/5 to John Hall on Fri Aug 27 20:16:49 2021
    On 27/08/2021 7:27 pm, John Hall wrote:
    In message <Qv-dncIWArcnOrX8nZ2dnUU7-LPNnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> writes
    OK I'll stick with Annastacia Palaszczuk who will keep any Victorians
    or NSWelshmen out. Excellent job at the moment

    Journalists will hope he doesn't get the job. It's not a name they'll
    want to have to spell too often. :)  (Or should that be "she"?
    Annastacia looks like a female name.)


    SHE is the Premier of Q'land responsible for the border closures keeping Victorians and NSWelshmen out due to not wanting COVID to run rampant.

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  • From Mike Gooding@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 27 07:12:50 2021
    It's time for a no-nonsense straight-talking bad-tempered bloke who everyone's terrified of: come on down Captain Grumpy!

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  • From John Hall@21:1/5 to Dechucka1@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 27 18:55:59 2021
    In message <T6qdnQrPItMOJrX8nZ2dnUU7-VWdnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> writes
    On 27/08/2021 7:27 pm, John Hall wrote:
    In message <Qv-dncIWArcnOrX8nZ2dnUU7-LPNnZ2d@westnet.com.au>,
    Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> writes
    OK I'll stick with Annastacia Palaszczuk who will keep any
    Victorians or NSWelshmen out. Excellent job at the moment
    Journalists will hope he doesn't get the job. It's not a name
    they'll want to have to spell too often. :)  (Or should that be "she"? >>Annastacia looks like a female name.)


    SHE is the Premier of Q'land responsible for the border closures
    keeping Victorians and NSWelshmen out due to not wanting COVID to run >rampant.

    Thanks.
    --
    John Hall "Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always
    pays off now." Anon

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  • From mike@21:1/5 to John Hall on Fri Aug 27 14:13:16 2021
    On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 7:05:52 PM UTC+1, John Hall wrote:
    In message <T6qdnQrPItMOJrX8...@westnet.com.au>, Dechucka <Dech...@hotmail.com> writes
    On 27/08/2021 7:27 pm, John Hall wrote:
    In message <Qv-dncIWArcnOrX8...@westnet.com.au>,
    Dechucka <Dech...@hotmail.com> writes
    OK I'll stick with Annastacia Palaszczuk who will keep any
    Victorians or NSWelshmen out. Excellent job at the moment
    Journalists will hope he doesn't get the job. It's not a name
    they'll want to have to spell too often. :) (Or should that be "she"? >>Annastacia looks like a female name.)


    yes two many zs. do they actually chant her surname at elections?

    and if they dont like langer are they ready for a female head coach? if
    they want a politico i suggest the one in taz who looks like kojak or
    is he too controversial?

    SHE is the Premier of Q'land responsible for the border closures
    keeping Victorians and NSWelshmen out due to not wanting COVID to run >rampant.

    i dont think it will work. even mistress jacinda cant keep it out despite
    being surronded by 000s miles of ocean.

    mike

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  • From alvey@21:1/5 to Dechucka on Sat Aug 28 07:23:15 2021
    On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 18:52:07 +1000, Dechucka wrote:

    On 27/08/2021 6:46 pm, alvey wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 10:10:51 +1000, Dechucka wrote:


    Phil Jaques is the obvious choice ;-) ducks

    Phil Jaques Trivia:

    After coaching Qld to 4th and 5th respectively in his two years here as
    coach, Qld won the Shield the season immediately after his unscheduled, and >> much celebrated, scuttling back to Sinney. His first appearance in a Shield >> final really inspired the players. Unfortunately for Phil it was the Qld
    players he inspired to their thrashing of his current side featuring their >> "world class" bowling.

    alvey



    OK I'll stick with Annastacia Palaszczuk who will keep any Victorians or NSWelshmen out. Excellent job at the moment

    Sure is. And sticking to her guns, ie. common sense and expert medical
    advice, against that shouting bully and lackey of crazed capitalists
    Morrison. Unless she gets caught with her fingers in the till, or some
    kiddies, she'll win the next State election by a couple of landslides.


    alvey

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