• Lucy Zelic's sad, paranoid anti-football rant (2/3)

    From Morrissey Breen@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 21 14:11:11 2022
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    Rowdy
    Rowdy
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    July 21st 2022 @ 9:53pm
    I love Lucy Zelic. I don’t care for what she said but l love the way she says it.

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    Bangkokpussy
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    July 21st 2022 @ 3:21pm
    Clarko would be better with a club thats almost there rather than North. Otherwise he may as well wait for tassie or a more successful club whose coach retires.

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    NickoM
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    PeteB
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    July 21st 2022 @ 3:59pm
    Maybe he’s just in it for the money

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    Chanon
    Chanon
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    July 21st 2022 @ 5:06pm
    Pete your club rejected Clarko or did he reject Blues 😛

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    PeteB
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    PeteB
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    July 21st 2022 @ 5:09pm
    He cost too much even for the Blues ! Vossy is hungrier for success and is now a better coach than Clarko would be.

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    Kemp
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    Chanon
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    July 21st 2022 @ 5:15pm
    Based on what ?

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    Birdman
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    Simoc
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    July 21st 2022 @ 5:27pm
    Wishful thinking! Voss has finally arrived at the starting gate.

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    PeteB
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    July 21st 2022 @ 5:32pm
    Dogs should go after Clarko!

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    Chanon
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    PeteB
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    July 21st 2022 @ 10:01pm
    He’s last few years were pretty ordinary. Totally misjudged where the Hawks list was at.

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    Chanon
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    July 21st 2022 @ 10:09pm
    Coached pretty well last 12 odd games before exit but my memory is cr.p could be wrong.
    Either way with a fresh start & no politics (Kennett’s Ladder) he would coach with a certain freedom. I’m backing Nth with Clarko will reach finals year after next & will be successful like Nth Pagan 90’s era

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    PeteB
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    July 21st 2022 @ 10:11pm
    Pagans paddock ? Who’s their Wayne Carey ?
    Edited after posting

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    Chanon
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    Chanon
    Chanon
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    July 21st 2022 @ 10:17pm
    Maybe they haven’t unearthed them yet like monkey magic born from a egg on a mountain top 😁

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    Kemp
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    Kemp
    Kemp
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    July 21st 2022 @ 10:23pm
    No wiser words have ever been spoken 👍 if only piggsy and sandy were assistant coaches…

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    Kemp
    Kemp
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    July 21st 2022 @ 10:25pm
    Why can’t I Like this Monkey Magic comment twice? Or more 😢

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    PeteB
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    July 21st 2022 @ 10:12pm
    Players were excited that he was leaving 😛

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    Alchemist
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    July 21st 2022 @ 11:40pm
    I think Hodgy’s take on it was pretty good. He basically said that yes he was a brilliant coach but he was surrounded by strong personalities who weren’t yes men.

    If he’s surrounded by yes men then Hodgy said it wouldn’t work at all.

    May be where it all went south for hawthorn post 2016 too when the likes of Ratten, Fagan and Co started leaving giving Clarko full reign.

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    PeteB
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    July 21st 2022 @ 10:04pm
    Already seven years since last premiership and the Hawks are only just bottoming out

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    Chanon
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    July 21st 2022 @ 10:11pm
    Can’t be up forever & he won 4 cups. Pete l think your being over critical just a tad.

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    Mr Right
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    PeteB
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    July 21st 2022 @ 10:13pm
    Don’t get me wrong he is the coach of the century but they all lose their magic eventually

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    Kemp
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    Chanon
    Chanon
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    July 21st 2022 @ 10:19pm
    Pete we will see what happens touch wood Voss the Boss can continue the hype 👍

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    Kemp
    PeteB
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    PeteB
    PeteB
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    July 21st 2022 @ 10:31pm
    Well if North doesn’t work out for Clarko at least he will have his millions to console himself with 😁

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    Chanon
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    Chanon
    Chanon
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    July 21st 2022 @ 10:40pm
    Deep down Pete all l really care about is the crappy dogs but just sometimes l have sympathy for my neighbours 😁

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    Kemp
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    Kemp
    Kemp
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    July 21st 2022 @ 10:58pm
    Everybody needs good Neighbour’s.

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    PeteB
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    Chanon
    Chanon
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    July 21st 2022 @ 11:15pm
    That’s why we have fences so they don’t pi.S on our lawn 😁

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    Kemp
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    Chanon
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    July 21st 2022 @ 10:47pm
    Pete, Star Lord Lobb the bleached lighthouse coming to the dogs 👍

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    Mr Right
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    July 21st 2022 @ 10:42pm
    Like Chris Scott?

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    Gyfox
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    July 21st 2022 @ 3:26pm
    Soccer’s anti-AFL tantrum came out the same day that AFL club memberships have passed 1 million again. Soccer’s latest tantrum comes from jealousy or insecurity. It will always be #4 in the football codes. Yet they are still claiming to be the only
    code that is called football. The only real Australian football is called AFL at the top professional level.

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    Angela
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    Nick
    Nick
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    July 21st 2022 @ 5:26pm
    I think as equally as people tend to ignore soccer insecurity, they will also ignore your beacon like insecurities too.

    Hypocrisy, thy name is gyfox.

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    Gyfox
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    July 21st 2022 @ 8:18pm
    Love your sense of humour, Nick

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    MG
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    July 21st 2022 @ 3:34pm
    I just did some googling that suggests Paul Roos was paid $1.5m to coach Melbourne 2014 to 2016. That conflicts with my memory of it being $1m? $1.6m for Clarkson in 2023 is not that ridiculous if the $1.5m for Roos is true. If I was Clarkson, I’d be
    asking for a five year contract.

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    Mr Right
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    PeteB
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    July 21st 2022 @ 3:57pm
    Not sure Clarko has the best interests of the Roos in mind there. That salary will require cuts to other areas at the club. Should be a big “NO “ from the Kangas.

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    dargerovitch
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    Chanon
    Chanon
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    July 21st 2022 @ 5:26pm
    Underlings will work for free to work under Clarko no different to working under a celebrity Chef 😛

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    PeteB
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    Don Freo
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    July 21st 2022 @ 5:44pm
    Brendon the 1st?

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    Chanon
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    Brendon the 1st
    Brendon the 1st
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    July 21st 2022 @ 6:00pm
    Not sure I could work under Clarko 😂

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    PeteB
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    Chanon
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    July 21st 2022 @ 6:45pm
    Your the celebrity chef, silly!

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    PeteB
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    Willie
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    July 21st 2022 @ 4:04pm
    OK, I’ll bite. How can a long time cellar dwelling club with a small supporter base, drawing small crowds, and having only modest sponsorship, afford a guy like Clarko? As good as Clarkson is, every coach needs at least a good sprinkling of talent to
    succeed in this competition. How many years do they think this project would take? Because the costs multiply each year. At some point, unless Clarkson performs a miracle, they will be so deep in debt that the AFL will have to bail them out (at the
    expense of the other clubs), or merge them (which they could do now), or delist them. I guess fairy tales do come true in professional sport (think Leicester City, but they at least they had a billionaire sponsor). What am I missing?

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    Pope Paul VII
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    July 21st 2022 @ 5:36pm
    North are only a short time cellar dweller in the last 50 yrs. The membership is 48,000. Small crowds often take two tangoists. With 2 AFL premierships to go with 2 VFL premierships they are not too shabby.

    North are not in debt.

    Years it takes to premiership it

    SM/SYD 72
    St K 69 & 56+
    Footers/WB 62
    Melb 57
    NM 50 (1925 – 1975)
    Geel 44
    Rich 37
    Coll 32
    Freo 28 to date

    A host of clubs are around or past the 20 years mark since the last.

    It could take a long time, it could take 5 yrs.

    What it definitely takes is some time.

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    Chanon
    Micko
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    Micko
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    July 21st 2022 @ 6:54pm
    You forgot Carlton. 😁

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    Pope Paul VII
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    Pope Paul VII
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    July 21st 2022 @ 9:25pm
    I cannot spake their name (just kidding Macca);

    Carl 27 years

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    Micko
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    Mr Right
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    July 21st 2022 @ 10:52pm
    Roos turned the Demons around. A good experienced coach can have a good affect on a club without winning a premiership. E.g. working with the recruitment team, liaising with talented players that just need that little bit a extra guidance. If a young
    player gets berated by Clarkson, he is more likely to listen & take it onboard than a young first year coach.

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    Naughty's Headband
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    July 21st 2022 @ 4:13pm
    Les Murray = iconic football presenter. Lucy Zelic = not iconic football presenter.

    Bring back the headcount and resetting the score to zero for having 19 men on ground I say.


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    Col from Brissie
    Col from Brissie
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    July 21st 2022 @ 2:28pm
    Strange that in the VFL match between Brisbane & GWS, Brisbane only lost the 1 goal 3 behinds they scored whilst having 19 players on the ground. Having an extra player could have prevented GWS scoring. Perhaps they should add what Brisbane scored during
    that period to GWS as well deducting it from Brisbane.

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    RichieTiger
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    Brian
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    July 21st 2022 @ 4:33pm
    Is very light touch. If your up by 10+ goals at 3QT you can just play 19 players for the last quarter

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    Pope Paul VII
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    Doctor Rotcod
    Doctor Rotcod
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    July 21st 2022 @ 6:20pm
    There was an Eagles game earlier this season where they briefly,<2 minutes, had 17 players on the field. Does nobody care?

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    Brendon the 1st
    Brendon the 1st
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    July 21st 2022 @ 2:37pm
    1.6m

    No thanks, the Roos would be better off with someone like Pike for that sort of money.

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    PeteB
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    Nick
    Nick
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    July 21st 2022 @ 3:39pm
    $1.6 is the opening bid.

    It would come down to $1.1m.

    Pitch for the moon, the worst they will say is no.

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    NickoM
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    Brendon the 1st
    Brendon the 1st
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    July 21st 2022 @ 4:04pm
    Was thinking that after I posted, reckon 1.2m will be the number

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    NickoM
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    dargerovitch
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    July 21st 2022 @ 5:54pm
    Can’t help wondering how much Clarkson (and Buddy for that matter) actually need.
    Surely they are both already totally loaded after all their respective well-paid years in football. Meanwhile frontline workers like nurses and ambos get $100K a year or less. I love football and as an elderly Hawk fan been alive for all their Flag wins
    starting in 1961 and appreciate Clarko’s four and Buddy’s two for Hawthorn , but as they are both already very financially comfortable they could drop their pay to the Australian average of $88K without feeling any pain at all.

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    Brendon the 1st
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    July 21st 2022 @ 5:58pm
    Money has to go somewhere I suppose, this is why the soft cap is there

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    Birdman
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    July 21st 2022 @ 7:30pm
    Pike probably heading to the Giants if Clarko stands them up.

    Essendon are mad if they don’t seriously think to change horses while the GOAT is available. Port just might trump them all.

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    Brendon the 1st
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    July 21st 2022 @ 7:41pm
    Maybe not at that price

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    Birdman
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    July 21st 2022 @ 8:15pm
    Haha. Tom Browne’s hardly the most trustworthy source for Clarko’s price tag.

    It’s well known he has sacrificed salary in the past to get the resources he thinks he needs. I’m sure Clarko’s going to do everything possible to make his second senior stint a success.

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    Kemp
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    Rowdy
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    July 21st 2022 @ 9:51pm
    Not Pyke.

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    Shinboner 1971
    Shinboner 1971
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    July 21st 2022 @ 2:42pm
    Does anyone really believe the $1.6m price tag for Clarkson? It’s almost a quarter of the soft cap, and there is no way that Clarkson would take up that much of the soft cap if he believes North have a genuine chance of winning a Premiership, and he
    wouldn’t come home if he didn’t. This is just a stupid made up figure, I assume, by one of the most unreliable and untrustworthy of AFL Reporters, Tom Browne. I have no doubt that if Clarkson signs up to coach his former club, he will be the highest
    paid coach, but I would think $1.0-1.2m is closer to the mark.

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    Alchemist
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    13th Man
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    July 21st 2022 @ 3:16pm
    Kind of embarrassing how FA and soccer fans are reacting to this. It happens all over the world every year.
    Cross code opportunities are normal.
    Photos between Michael Jordan and Shane Warne for example.
    Absolute non issue. I love both sports but Zelic threw the toys out of the cot for absolutely no reason.

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    PeteB
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    Nick
    Nick
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    July 21st 2022 @ 3:42pm
    I think it highlights the absurd insecurities some (but not all) have inside football circles.

    They might also discover that promoters will find such games will be harder to attract in future.

    These cross code photo ops generate money for the sponsors who want this, and thus pay for them. If they don’t get them, they won’t pay to bring the match over.

    Zelic will throw more toys out of the cot when next year the best they can get is Brentford v Bournemouth as a result.

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    Alchemist
    dargerovitch
    Gyfox
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    dargerovitch
    dargerovitch
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    July 21st 2022 @ 6:03pm
    Insecurities is the right word. Are they worried all the kids now playing soccer are suddenly going to switch to Aussie Rules? Or Marcus Rashford going to quit Man. U. to play AFL?
    The photos are about as threatening to soccer as the odd published pics. of AFL players at training fooling around with a soccer ball for a bit of variety. I find the derogatory term “snowflake ” often over-used and wrong but it applies here.

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    Micko
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    Nick
    Nick
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    July 21st 2022 @ 9:40pm
    It has long been the nightmare scenario of European football giant clubs that their players will walk away from contracts, hop on a plane and take a 97% pay cut to play AFL.

    That’s why the clubs rarely come down under, best to prevent any temptations.

    Same with virat Kohli. It’s often underreported just how close he was to throwing away $50m a year in endorsements and cricket contracts to pick up $450k a year as a pocket forward for the tigers

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    Alchemist
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    Daddy Disnick
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    July 21st 2022 @ 4:11pm
    First I heard of this photo.

    The irony is spectacular. It took the whining of the FA for me to read about it.

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    Nick
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    AR
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    July 21st 2022 @ 5:04pm
    It’s hilarious.

    Can you imagine the MLS or the US soccer community hysterically demanding that visiting Man Utd players are ‘not allowed’ to get a photo with the LA Lakers, or NY Yankees, or Pittsburgh Pirates, or whatever the eff?

    Amazing stuff.

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    dargerovitch
    Micko
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    Rowdy
    Rowdy
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    July 21st 2022 @ 9:53pm
    I love Lucy Zelic. I don’t care for what she said but l love the way she says it.

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    Bangkokpussy
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    July 21st 2022 @ 3:21pm
    Clarko would be better with a club thats almost there rather than North. Otherwise he may as well wait for tassie or a more successful club whose coach retires.

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    NickoM
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    PeteB
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    July 21st 2022 @ 3:59pm
    Maybe he’s just in it for the money

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    Chanon
    Chanon
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    July 21st 2022 @ 5:06pm
    Pete your club rejected Clarko or did he reject Blues 😛

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    PeteB
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    PeteB
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    July 21st 2022 @ 5:09pm
    He cost too much even for the Blues ! Vossy is hungrier for success and is now a better coach than Clarko would be.

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    Kemp
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    Chanon
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    July 21st 2022 @ 5:15pm
    Based on what ?

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    Birdman
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    Simoc
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    July 21st 2022 @ 5:27pm
    Wishful thinking! Voss has finally arrived at the starting gate.

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    PeteB
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    July 21st 2022 @ 5:32pm
    Dogs should go after Clarko!

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    Chanon
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    PeteB
    PeteB
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    July 21st 2022 @ 10:01pm
    He’s last few years were pretty ordinary. Totally misjudged where the Hawks list was at.

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    Chanon
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    July 21st 2022 @ 10:09pm
    Coached pretty well last 12 odd games before exit but my memory is cr.p could be wrong.
    Either way with a fresh start & no politics (Kennett’s Ladder) he would coach with a certain freedom. I’m backing Nth with Clarko will reach finals year after next & will be successful like Nth Pagan 90’s era

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    PeteB
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    July 21st 2022 @ 10:11pm
    Pagans paddock ? Who’s their Wayne Carey ?
    Edited after posting

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    Chanon
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    Chanon
    Chanon
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    July 21st 2022 @ 10:17pm
    Maybe they haven’t unearthed them yet like monkey magic born from a egg on a mountain top 😁

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    Kemp
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    Kemp
    Kemp
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    July 21st 2022 @ 10:23pm
    No wiser words have ever been spoken 👍 if only piggsy and sandy were assistant coaches…

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    Kemp
    Kemp
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    July 21st 2022 @ 10:25pm
    Why can’t I Like this Monkey Magic comment twice? Or more 😢

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    PeteB
    PeteB
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    July 21st 2022 @ 10:12pm
    Players were excited that he was leaving 😛

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    Alchemist
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    July 21st 2022 @ 11:40pm
    I think Hodgy’s take on it was pretty good. He basically said that yes he was a brilliant coach but he was surrounded by strong personalities who weren’t yes men.

    If he’s surrounded by yes men then Hodgy said it wouldn’t work at all.

    May be where it all went south for hawthorn post 2016 too when the likes of Ratten, Fagan and Co started leaving giving Clarko full reign.

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    PeteB
    PeteB
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    July 21st 2022 @ 10:04pm
    Already seven years since last premiership and the Hawks are only just bottoming out

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    Chanon
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    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 10:11pm
    Can’t be up forever & he won 4 cups. Pete l think your being over critical just a tad.

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    Mr Right
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    PeteB
    PeteB
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 10:13pm
    Don’t get me wrong he is the coach of the century but they all lose their magic eventually

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    Kemp
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    Chanon
    Chanon
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 10:19pm
    Pete we will see what happens touch wood Voss the Boss can continue the hype 👍

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    Kemp
    PeteB
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    PeteB
    PeteB
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 10:31pm
    Well if North doesn’t work out for Clarko at least he will have his millions to console himself with 😁

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    Chanon
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    Chanon
    Chanon
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 10:40pm
    Deep down Pete all l really care about is the crappy dogs but just sometimes l have sympathy for my neighbours 😁

    Reply
    Kemp
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    Kemp
    Kemp
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 10:58pm
    Everybody needs good Neighbour’s.

    Reply
    PeteB
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    Chanon
    Chanon
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 11:15pm
    That’s why we have fences so they don’t pi.S on our lawn 😁

    Reply
    Kemp
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    Chanon
    Chanon
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 10:47pm
    Pete, Star Lord Lobb the bleached lighthouse coming to the dogs 👍

    Reply
    Mr Right
    Mr Right
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 10:42pm
    Like Chris Scott?

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    Gyfox
    Gyfox
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 3:26pm
    Soccer’s anti-AFL tantrum came out the same day that AFL club memberships have passed 1 million again. Soccer’s latest tantrum comes from jealousy or insecurity. It will always be #4 in the football codes. Yet they are still claiming to be the only
    code that is called football. The only real Australian football is called AFL at the top professional level.

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    Angela
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    Nick
    Nick
    Roar Guru
    July 21st 2022 @ 5:26pm
    I think as equally as people tend to ignore soccer insecurity, they will also ignore your beacon like insecurities too.

    Hypocrisy, thy name is gyfox.

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    Gyfox
    Gyfox
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 8:18pm
    Love your sense of humour, Nick

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    MG
    MG
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 3:34pm
    I just did some googling that suggests Paul Roos was paid $1.5m to coach Melbourne 2014 to 2016. That conflicts with my memory of it being $1m? $1.6m for Clarkson in 2023 is not that ridiculous if the $1.5m for Roos is true. If I was Clarkson, I’d be
    asking for a five year contract.

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    Mr Right
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    PeteB
    PeteB
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 3:57pm
    Not sure Clarko has the best interests of the Roos in mind there. That salary will require cuts to other areas at the club. Should be a big “NO “ from the Kangas.

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    dargerovitch
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    Chanon
    Chanon
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 5:26pm
    Underlings will work for free to work under Clarko no different to working under a celebrity Chef 😛

    Reply
    PeteB
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    Don Freo
    Don Freo
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 5:44pm
    Brendon the 1st?

    Reply
    Chanon
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    Brendon the 1st
    Brendon the 1st
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 6:00pm
    Not sure I could work under Clarko 😂

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    PeteB
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    Chanon
    Chanon
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 6:45pm
    Your the celebrity chef, silly!

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    PeteB
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    Willie
    Willie
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 4:04pm
    OK, I’ll bite. How can a long time cellar dwelling club with a small supporter base, drawing small crowds, and having only modest sponsorship, afford a guy like Clarko? As good as Clarkson is, every coach needs at least a good sprinkling of talent to
    succeed in this competition. How many years do they think this project would take? Because the costs multiply each year. At some point, unless Clarkson performs a miracle, they will be so deep in debt that the AFL will have to bail them out (at the
    expense of the other clubs), or merge them (which they could do now), or delist them. I guess fairy tales do come true in professional sport (think Leicester City, but they at least they had a billionaire sponsor). What am I missing?

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    Pope Paul VII
    Pope Paul VII
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 5:36pm
    North are only a short time cellar dweller in the last 50 yrs. The membership is 48,000. Small crowds often take two tangoists. With 2 AFL premierships to go with 2 VFL premierships they are not too shabby.

    North are not in debt.

    Years it takes to premiership it

    SM/SYD 72
    St K 69 & 56+
    Footers/WB 62
    Melb 57
    NM 50 (1925 – 1975)
    Geel 44
    Rich 37
    Coll 32
    Freo 28 to date

    A host of clubs are around or past the 20 years mark since the last.

    It could take a long time, it could take 5 yrs.

    What it definitely takes is some time.

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    Chanon
    Micko
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    Micko
    Micko
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 6:54pm
    You forgot Carlton. 😁

    Reply
    Pope Paul VII
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    Pope Paul VII
    Pope Paul VII
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 9:25pm
    I cannot spake their name (just kidding Macca);

    Carl 27 years

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    Micko
    Alchemist
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    Mr Right
    Mr Right
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 10:52pm
    Roos turned the Demons around. A good experienced coach can have a good affect on a club without winning a premiership. E.g. working with the recruitment team, liaising with talented players that just need that little bit a extra guidance. If a young
    player gets berated by Clarkson, he is more likely to listen & take it onboard than a young first year coach.

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    Naughty's Headband
    Naughty's Headband
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 4:13pm
    Les Murray = iconic football presenter. Lucy Zelic = not iconic football presenter.

    Bring back the headcount and resetting the score to zero for having 19 men on ground I say.

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    Alchemist
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    Chanon
    Chanon
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 5:05pm
    Go get him Shinboners the amount of revenue that will be gained will be all worthwhile, Clarko to Nth equals a huge success & the bleeding diehard supporters will love some positive news 👍

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    Pope Paul VII
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    Don Freo
    Don Freo
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 5:43pm
    …and JHF will want to stay.
    …and Josh Kelly might finally want to sign on.
    …and Tarryn Thomas might even see some hope for his own career.

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    Chanon
    Pope Paul VII
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    Obsessed Much?
    Obsessed Much?
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 5:45pm
    Lobb missing for Freo. Word from the West is there could be another 1 or 2 surprise outs.

    Reply
    Chanon
    Chanon
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 5:54pm
    Dogs have supposedly offered Lobb a 4 year deal
    Three way deal involving Dogs, Freo & Pies

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    Obsessed Much?
    Obsessed Much?
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 5:59pm
    Who are the other players rumoured to be part of the deal?

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    Chanon
    Chanon
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 6:01pm
    Jackson to Freo, Grundy to Dees 👍

    Reply
    Obsessed Much?
    1 person likes this
    Johnno
    Johnno
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 8:20pm
    What do Dogs give up?

    Reply
    Chanon
    Chanon
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 8:23pm
    Crozier 😛
    Nothing really possibly a late 2nd round remember Freo are getting Jackson on 1.2 over 7 years
    Not much left in the kitty
    Freo will be glad to accept anything
    Edited after posting

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    Johnno
    Johnno
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 8:25pm
    ????????????????

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    Chanon
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    Chanon
    Chanon
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 9:06pm
    Johno lots of question marks mate either way l’m not fussed but he did request to leave last year but was denied & the drums are beating & the most peculiar thing was Chris Grant openly chatting about him coming to the dogs next year, go figure hey!
    Edited after posting

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    AdamDilligafThompson
    AdamDilligafThompson
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 8:28pm
    Grundy may be to GWS apparently his manager met with them.
    Edited after posting

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    Chanon
    Chanon
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 9:02pm
    Maybe Adam

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    AdamDilligafThompson
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    AdamDilligafThompson
    AdamDilligafThompson
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 9:16pm
    I think either would work. If Melbourne lose Jackson and gws have been screaming for a ruckman for years. If lycett still didn’t have a few years on his I think it is we’d probs have a think about it.

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    Chanon
    Chanon
    Roar Rookie
    July 21st 2022 @ 9:22pm
    Question remains does Grundy fill the role Hackson leaves by heading to Freo maybe the deal can only work if all agree. Pies need Grundy off the books & Demons are prepared to accommodate which is a blessing in disguise for Pies. Lobb leaves with Freo
    blessing cause they have offered huge bucks for him to come home. They can’t accomodate both.

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    AdamDilligafThompson

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