• Russian Money JUST Went To Trumpers ? ?

    From bruce bowser@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 2 01:44:42 2022
    Russia Has Secretly Spent $300 Million To Influence Foreign Elections, U.S. Says
    Forbes Magazine - Sep 13, 2022
    -- https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2022/09/13/russia-has-secretly-spent-300-million-to-influence-foreign-elections-us-says/?sh=4c4879914784

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  • From bruce bowser@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 2 09:55:34 2022
    WHEN 63 REPUBLICANS TAKE PUTIN'S SIDE OF THE WAR AND VOTE AGAINST NATO

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  • From Irving S@21:1/5 to bruce bowser on Wed Nov 2 12:10:20 2022
    On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 12:55:36 PM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
    WHEN 63 REPUBLICANS TAKE PUTIN'S SIDE OF THE WAR AND VOTE AGAINST NATO

    I would side with Putin too.

    We provoked this. There was no rush to get the Ukraine into NATO. What about the 14 biolabs in Ukraine, do you care to discuss that or will you remain oblivious as usual. Truth be it, there is so much corruption in the Ukraine, and so many corrupt
    folks in our govt making money off it, they have no choice but to back this regime, and give them endless money and weapons. They have us by the ball you clown. All those billions going to this country, while we have countless issues here.

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to bruce bowser on Wed Nov 2 21:05:18 2022
    On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 1:44:44 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
    Russia Has Secretly Spent $300 Million To Influence Foreign Elections, U.S. Says
    Forbes Magazine - Sep 13, 2022
    -- https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2022/09/13/russia-has-secretly-spent-300-million-to-influence-foreign-elections-us-says/?sh=4c4879914784

    Are you talking about the same intelligence agencies that LIED UNDER OATH before Congress??? Anything that passes the lips of these woke radicals can't be trusted any more than a Nigerian sudden wealth claim.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Irving S on Wed Nov 2 20:47:13 2022
    On 2022-11-02 12:10, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 12:55:36 PM UTC-4, bruce bowser
    wrote:
    WHEN 63 REPUBLICANS TAKE PUTIN'S SIDE OF THE WAR AND VOTE AGAINST
    NATO

    I would side with Putin too.

    Of course you would.

    Your god does, so you do, too. Only he at least gets paid to betray his country.


    We provoked this.

    Really? How, exactly?

    There was no rush to get the Ukraine into NATO.

    Why does that matter if Ukraine wants to be a member? The Russians
    already provoked them by invading Ukraine territory.

    What about the 14 biolabs in Ukraine, do you care to discuss that or
    will you remain oblivious as usual.

    Sure. Got any proof that any of them actually exist?

    Truth be it, there is so much corruption in the Ukraine, and so many
    corrupt folks in our govt making money off it, they have no choice
    but to back this regime, and give them endless money and weapons.
    They have us by the ball you clown. All those billions going to this country, while we have countless issues here.

    I like the way you dispense with anything like "evidence".

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Wed Nov 2 21:58:13 2022
    On 2022-11-02 21:05, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 1:44:44 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser
    wrote:
    Russia Has Secretly Spent $300 Million To Influence Foreign
    Elections, U.S. Says Forbes Magazine - Sep 13, 2022 --
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2022/09/13/russia-has-secretly-spent-300-million-to-influence-foreign-elections-us-says/?sh=4c4879914784


    Are you talking about the same intelligence agencies that LIED UNDER
    OATH before Congress???

    Got a cite for that...

    ...because I think you're full of it.

    Anything that passes the lips of these woke radicals can't be trusted
    any more than a Nigerian sudden wealth claim.

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  • From bruce bowser@21:1/5 to Irving S on Wed Nov 2 22:11:32 2022
    On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 3:10:21 PM UTC-4, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 12:55:36 PM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
    WHEN 63 REPUBLICANS TAKE PUTIN'S SIDE OF THE WAR AND VOTE AGAINST NATO
    I would side with Putin too.

    You're scared to actually say you do or you don't.

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu Nov 3 09:13:59 2022
    On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 9:58:16 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-02 21:05, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 1:44:44 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser
    wrote:
    Russia Has Secretly Spent $300 Million To Influence Foreign
    Elections, U.S. Says Forbes Magazine - Sep 13, 2022 --
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2022/09/13/russia-has-secretly-spent-300-million-to-influence-foreign-elections-us-says/?sh=4c4879914784


    Are you talking about the same intelligence agencies that LIED UNDER
    OATH before Congress???
    Got a cite for that...

    ...because I think you're full of it.
    Anything that passes the lips of these woke radicals can't be trusted
    any more than a Nigerian sudden wealth claim.

    Try this one on for size: https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-11-17/lawmakers-resume-calls-for-james-clapper-perjury-charges

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Thu Nov 3 10:06:22 2022
    On 2022-11-03 09:13, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 9:58:16 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-02 21:05, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 1:44:44 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser
    wrote:
    Russia Has Secretly Spent $300 Million To Influence Foreign
    Elections, U.S. Says Forbes Magazine - Sep 13, 2022 --
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2022/09/13/russia-has-secretly-spent-300-million-to-influence-foreign-elections-us-says/?sh=4c4879914784


    Are you talking about the same intelligence agencies that LIED UNDER
    OATH before Congress???
    Got a cite for that...

    ...because I think you're full of it.
    Anything that passes the lips of these woke radicals can't be trusted
    any more than a Nigerian sudden wealth claim.

    Try this one on for size: https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-11-17/lawmakers-resume-calls-for-james-clapper-perjury-charges

    Sorry, but I'm trying to see the relevance of a more than 6 year old
    article in the present discussion...

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  • From Irving S@21:1/5 to bruce bowser on Thu Nov 3 11:00:02 2022
    On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 1:11:33 AM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 3:10:21 PM UTC-4, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 12:55:36 PM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
    WHEN 63 REPUBLICANS TAKE PUTIN'S SIDE OF THE WAR AND VOTE AGAINST NATO
    I would side with Putin too.
    You're scared to actually say you do or you don't.

    I already said it you dummy. Can you read!

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  • From bruce bowser@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 3 14:19:57 2022
    Here are ALL those 63 REPUBLICAN "Nays":
    -- https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1511450233095569411?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1511511316963467264%7Ctwgr%5Ebc0dc3a60857da3a38a5d7019c834f01bfe72d0a%7Ctwcon%5Es2_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fblogforarizona.net%2F63-house-
    republicans-in-the-pro-putin-caucus-vote-against-affirming-support-for-nato-and-democratic-principles%2F

    (Manu Raju - Twitter)

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu Nov 3 15:50:56 2022
    On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 10:06:24 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-03 09:13, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 9:58:16 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-02 21:05, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 1:44:44 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser
    wrote:
    Russia Has Secretly Spent $300 Million To Influence Foreign
    Elections, U.S. Says Forbes Magazine - Sep 13, 2022 --
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2022/09/13/russia-has-secretly-spent-300-million-to-influence-foreign-elections-us-says/?sh=4c4879914784


    Are you talking about the same intelligence agencies that LIED UNDER
    OATH before Congress???
    Got a cite for that...

    ...because I think you're full of it.
    Anything that passes the lips of these woke radicals can't be trusted
    any more than a Nigerian sudden wealth claim.

    Try this one on for size: https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-11-17/lawmakers-resume-calls-for-james-clapper-perjury-charges
    Sorry, but I'm trying to see the relevance of a more than 6 year old
    article in the present discussion...

    Sorry, but YOU are the one that asked for proof.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Thu Nov 3 16:22:27 2022
    On 2022-11-03 15:50, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 10:06:24 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-03 09:13, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 9:58:16 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-02 21:05, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 1:44:44 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser
    wrote:
    Russia Has Secretly Spent $300 Million To Influence Foreign
    Elections, U.S. Says Forbes Magazine - Sep 13, 2022 --
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2022/09/13/russia-has-secretly-spent-300-million-to-influence-foreign-elections-us-says/?sh=4c4879914784


    Are you talking about the same intelligence agencies that LIED UNDER >>>>> OATH before Congress???
    Got a cite for that...

    ...because I think you're full of it.
    Anything that passes the lips of these woke radicals can't be trusted >>>>> any more than a Nigerian sudden wealth claim.

    Try this one on for size:
    https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-11-17/lawmakers-resume-calls-for-james-clapper-perjury-charges
    Sorry, but I'm trying to see the relevance of a more than 6 year old
    article in the present discussion...

    Sorry, but YOU are the one that asked for proof.

    And this "proves" what?

    You haven't even shown that it is the same agencies involved...

    ...and James Clapper hasn't been in any agency since 2016.

    So which agencies are making these claims, and how is it you magically
    believe every allegation against anyone with whom you disagree, but
    every other allegation is magically a lie?

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  • From bruce bowser@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Fri Nov 4 12:52:35 2022
    On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 7:28AM, AlleyCat wrote in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh:
    On Thu, 3 Nov 2022 - 18:22:34 -0700, Alan says...
    Which prove that Obama talked to Putin.
    As did Bill and Hillary Clinton.
    If that's the standard, then what does it say that Trump talked to Putin...
    Nothing.

    I don't see anything about Bill or Hillary, here. Do you?

    "Two New York Residents Charged With Funneling Chinese Investor Money To Trump Campaign."
    Reuters - Jul 18, 2022
    -- https://www.reuters.com/world/us/new-york-residents-charged-with-funneling-chinese-investors-money-trump-campaign-2022-07-18/
    ------------------------

    Ex-Rand Paul aide pardoned by Trump is charged with funneling Russian money into 2016 election
    Yahoo News - May 7, 2022
    -- https://ca.news.yahoo.com/ex-rand-paul-aide-pardoned-221311690.html

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  • From marika@21:1/5 to bruce bowser on Wed Dec 21 19:42:20 2022
    On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 3:44:44 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
    Russia Has Secretly Spent $300 Million To Influence Foreign Elections, U.S. Says
    Forbes Magazine - Sep 13, 2022
    -- https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2022/09/13/russia-has-secretly-spent-300-million-to-influence-foreign-elections-us-says/?sh=4c4879914784


    They forgot to bribe New Mexico, they went for biden

    mk5000

    The state of the union is that there isn’t one
    If a house divided can’t stand, we been sitting but sitting officials lettin’ you starve and die
    They’d say for a party, I say it’s dogma to America’s artful lie Sniffin’ the party line, intoxicated from white--Marlon Craft – State of the Union

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  • From bruce bowser@21:1/5 to marika on Thu Dec 22 09:38:40 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 10:42:21 PM UTC-5, marika wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 3:44:44 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
    Russia Has Secretly Spent $300 Million To Influence Foreign Elections, U.S. Says
    Forbes Magazine - Sep 13, 2022
    -- https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2022/09/13/russia-has-secretly-spent-300-million-to-influence-foreign-elections-us-says/?sh=4c4879914784

    They forgot to bribe New Mexico, they went for biden

    What do American southwest investments in Russia ties have to do with the American south east, though?

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  • From marika@21:1/5 to bruce bowser on Thu Dec 22 18:14:18 2022
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 11:38:42 AM UTC-6, bruce bowser wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 10:42:21 PM UTC-5, marika wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 3:44:44 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
    Russia Has Secretly Spent $300 Million To Influence Foreign Elections, U.S. Says
    Forbes Magazine - Sep 13, 2022
    -- https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2022/09/13/russia-has-secretly-spent-300-million-to-influence-foreign-elections-us-says/?sh=4c4879914784

    They forgot to bribe New Mexico, they went for biden
    What do American southwest investments in Russia ties have to do with the American south east, though?

    It’s how people like Elon Musk who now headquarters in the southwest makes up his (bad business) losses without cutting starlink to Ukraine altogether, like he already threatened once to do.
    And he makes himself look like a “generous” philanthropist this way.

    I wonder how he managed to stay so relatively below the radar for so long. Massive @$$holes like this usually show their true colors LONG before their 50s.

    mk5000

    Don’t worry about the facts, the truth is what is important.
    Writers are told this all the time. There is this idea that there is a truth that transcends the facts and that we may find in what is not factual some profound truth. This is most obviously the justification for great fiction. ==All Memory is Fiction,
    Again
    BY KWAME DAWES

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  • From One Putt@21:1/5 to bruce2bowser@gmail.com on Fri Dec 23 12:14:39 2022
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 09:38:40 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
    <bruce2bowser@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 10:42:21 PM UTC-5, marika wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 3:44:44 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
    Russia Has Secretly Spent $300 Million To Influence Foreign Elections, U.S. Says
    Forbes Magazine - Sep 13, 2022
    -- https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2022/09/13/russia-has-secretly-spent-300-million-to-influence-foreign-elections-us-says/?sh=4c4879914784

    They forgot to bribe New Mexico, they went for biden

    What do American southwest investments in Russia ties have to do with the American south east, though?

    You should be asking why did Baturina wire 3.5 million to Rosemont
    Seneca Thornton, an offshoot of Rosemont Capital Partners, the private
    equity firm co-founded by Hunter Biden and Chris Heinz, the stepson of
    former Secretary of State John Kerry and how Baturina is one of the
    few Russian oligarchs who have escaped sanctions since Moscows Feb.
    24 invasion of Ukraine.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to One Putt on Fri Dec 23 11:26:29 2022
    On 2022-12-23 10:14, One Putt wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 09:38:40 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser <bruce2bowser@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 10:42:21 PM UTC-5, marika wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 3:44:44 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote: >>>> Russia Has Secretly Spent $300 Million To Influence Foreign Elections, U.S. Says
    Forbes Magazine - Sep 13, 2022
    -- https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2022/09/13/russia-has-secretly-spent-300-million-to-influence-foreign-elections-us-says/?sh=4c4879914784

    They forgot to bribe New Mexico, they went for biden

    What do American southwest investments in Russia ties have to do with the American south east, though?

    You should be asking why did Baturina wire 3.5 million to Rosemont
    Seneca Thornton, an offshoot of Rosemont Capital Partners, the private
    equity firm co-founded by Hunter Biden and Chris Heinz, the stepson of
    former Secretary of State John Kerry and how Baturina is one of the
    few Russian oligarchs who have escaped sanctions since Moscow’s Feb.
    24 invasion of Ukraine.


    I count...

    ...at least 5 separate unsupported assertions in there.

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Dec 23 22:13:47 2022
    On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 4:22:30 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-03 15:50, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 10:06:24 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-03 09:13, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 9:58:16 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-02 21:05, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 1:44:44 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser
    wrote:
    Russia Has Secretly Spent $300 Million To Influence Foreign
    Elections, U.S. Says Forbes Magazine - Sep 13, 2022 --
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2022/09/13/russia-has-secretly-spent-300-million-to-influence-foreign-elections-us-says/?sh=4c4879914784


    Are you talking about the same intelligence agencies that LIED UNDER >>>>> OATH before Congress???
    Got a cite for that...

    ...because I think you're full of it.
    Anything that passes the lips of these woke radicals can't be trusted >>>>> any more than a Nigerian sudden wealth claim.

    Try this one on for size:
    https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-11-17/lawmakers-resume-calls-for-james-clapper-perjury-charges
    Sorry, but I'm trying to see the relevance of a more than 6 year old
    article in the present discussion...

    Sorry, but YOU are the one that asked for proof.
    And this "proves" what?

    You haven't even shown that it is the same agencies involved...

    ...and James Clapper hasn't been in any agency since 2016.

    So which agencies are making these claims, and how is it you magically believe every allegation against anyone with whom you disagree, but
    every other allegation is magically a lie?

    These guys are hanging on behind the scenes, Fool. I will bet that Clapper still has a security clearance. And, then, there are the other snakes in the grass, Brennan and Comey, plus untold numbers of fellow travellers.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Mon Dec 26 12:16:22 2022
    On 2022-12-23 22:13, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 4:22:30 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-03 15:50, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 10:06:24 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-03 09:13, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 9:58:16 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-11-02 21:05, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 1:44:44 AM UTC-7, bruce
    bowser wrote:
    Russia Has Secretly Spent $300 Million To Influence
    Foreign Elections, U.S. Says Forbes Magazine - Sep 13,
    2022 --
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2022/09/13/russia-has-secretly-spent-300-million-to-influence-foreign-elections-us-says/?sh=4c4879914784




    Are you talking about the same intelligence agencies that LIED UNDER
    OATH before Congress???
    Got a cite for that...

    ...because I think you're full of it.
    Anything that passes the lips of these woke radicals
    can't be trusted any more than a Nigerian sudden wealth
    claim.

    Try this one on for size:
    https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-11-17/lawmakers-resume-calls-for-james-clapper-perjury-charges


    Sorry, but I'm trying to see the relevance of a more than 6 year old
    article in the present discussion...

    Sorry, but YOU are the one that asked for proof.
    And this "proves" what?

    You haven't even shown that it is the same agencies involved...

    ...and James Clapper hasn't been in any agency since 2016.

    So which agencies are making these claims, and how is it you
    magically believe every allegation against anyone with whom you
    disagree, but every other allegation is magically a lie?

    These guys are hanging on behind the scenes, Fool.

    A claim you will never actually support much less prove.

    I will bet that
    Clapper still has a security clearance.

    PROVE IT!

    And, then, there are the
    other snakes in the grass, Brennan and Comey, plus untold numbers of
    fellow travellers.

    You mean James Comey...

    ...the Republican Director of the FBI...

    ...who released a damaging report about Clinton's emails...

    ...(which turned out to be baseless)...

    ...just in time to damage her election chances?

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Dec 26 15:25:56 2022
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 3:16:25 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-12-23 22:13, Tommy wrote:


    These guys are hanging on behind the scenes, Fool.

    A claim you will never actually support much less prove.

    I will bet that Clapper still has a security clearance.

    PROVE IT!

    { pulling up the 🍿 }

    This should be interesting, as Clapper’s last Fed job ended in Jan 2017, which is more than 5 years ago.

    < https://www.military.com/veteran-jobs/security-clearance-jobs/avoid-having-security-clearance-expire.html>


    -hh

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  • From One Putt@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Dec 27 09:47:36 2022
    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 11:26:29 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2022-12-23 10:14, One Putt wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 09:38:40 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
    <bruce2bowser@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 10:42:21 PM UTC-5, marika wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 3:44:44 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote: >>>>> Russia Has Secretly Spent $300 Million To Influence Foreign Elections, U.S. Says
    Forbes Magazine - Sep 13, 2022
    -- https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2022/09/13/russia-has-secretly-spent-300-million-to-influence-foreign-elections-us-says/?sh=4c4879914784

    They forgot to bribe New Mexico, they went for biden

    What do American southwest investments in Russia ties have to do with the American south east, though?

    You should be asking why did Baturina wire 3.5 million to Rosemont
    Seneca Thornton, an offshoot of Rosemont Capital Partners, the private
    equity firm co-founded by Hunter Biden and Chris Heinz, the stepson of
    former Secretary of State John Kerry and how Baturina is one of the
    few Russian oligarchs who have escaped sanctions since Moscows Feb.
    24 invasion of Ukraine.


    I count...

    ...at least 5 separate unsupported assertions in there.

    Tell me what they are with your evidence they're unsupported.

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  • From One Putt@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Dec 27 10:38:24 2022
    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 12:16:22 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    And, then, there are the
    other snakes in the grass, Brennan and Comey, plus untold numbers of
    fellow travellers.

    You mean James Comey...

    ...the Republican Director of the FBI...

    ...who released a damaging report about Clinton's emails...

    ...(which turned out to be baseless)...

    ...just in time to damage her election chances?

    You sure do have a problem with facts;

    In April of 2016 Comey said he was no longer a republican and advised
    people to start voting democrat.

    July 5 of 2016 Comey holds a press conference exonerating Hillary even
    though it's not the job of the FBI to exonerate people, their job is
    to investigate, gather facts and turn it over to the AG who will make
    the decision. During the press conference Comey makes these
    statements;

    "Seven e-mail chains concern matters that were classified at the Top Secret/Special Access Program level when they were sent and received.
    These chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending e-mails about
    those matters and receiving e-mails from others about the same
    matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable
    person in Secretary Clintons position, or in the position of those
    government employees with whom she was corresponding about these
    matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place
    for that conversation."

    "Separately, it is important to say something about the marking of
    classified information. Only a very small number of the e-mails
    containing classified information bore markings indicating the
    presence of classified information. But even if information is not
    marked classified in an e-mail, participants who know or should know
    that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect
    it."

    "None of these e-mails should have been on any kind of unclassified
    system, but their presence is especially concerning because all of
    these e-mails were housed on unclassified personal servers not even
    supported by full-time security staff, like those found at Departments
    and Agencies of the U.S. Government or even with a commercial
    service like Gmail."

    Despite finding classified documents on an unsecured server Comey
    exonerates her.

    October of 2016 emails related to Hillarys personal email server
    turned up on a computer used by Huma Abedin and Anthony Weiner. The
    FBI reopens the investigation but Comey steps in to do damage control
    by saying it's just emails from the previous investigation, nothing
    new to see. That's twice Comey tries to downplay the email scandal.

    August of 2017 news breaks that evidence was discovered that shows
    Comey started to write the exoneration in April or May of 2016, two
    months before Hillary was interviewed.

    This evidence shows that Comey started drafting the exoneration the
    same time he publicly announced he was no longer a republican.

    January 2013 HSBC Holdings PLC named James Comey to their board. The London-based bank and its various philanthropic branches routinely
    partnered with the Clinton Foundation. Wealthy HSBC clients have
    donated mightily to the Clinton Foundation, including convicted sex
    offender, Jeffrey Epstein.

    October 1, 2005 Lockheed Martin announced James Comey as the
    corporations Senior Vice President and General Counsel. Lockheed
    Martin is a Clinton Foundation donor and in 2010 won 17 approvals for
    private contracts from the Hillary Clinton State Department. Comey
    earned $6 million in compensation from LM that very year.

    Between 2008 and 2010 investors in Uranium One, a Canadian mining
    company, donated heavily to the Clinton Foundation. This was the same
    time period Uranium One was trying to sell controlling interest to
    Rosatom, the Russian atomic energy agency. Since Uranium One operated
    20% of the uranaium mines in the U.S. several government agencies had
    to approve the sale, including Hillary Clinton's state department.

    We now have good reasons why Hillary may have been using a private
    server instead of a government server and why Comey may have
    exonerated her for her use of said private server and destroying over
    30,000 subpoenaed emails. This is not the first time Comey has given
    a Clinton a free pass. Twice before a Clinton scandal has crossed
    paths with Comey as an investigator and both times the investigations
    were closed with no explanation.

    I've giving you names and dates, you can veify all of this.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to One Putt on Tue Dec 27 13:31:38 2022
    On 2022-12-27 07:47, One Putt wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 11:26:29 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2022-12-23 10:14, One Putt wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 09:38:40 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
    <bruce2bowser@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 10:42:21 PM UTC-5, marika wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 3:44:44 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote: >>>>>> Russia Has Secretly Spent $300 Million To Influence Foreign Elections, U.S. Says
    Forbes Magazine - Sep 13, 2022
    -- https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2022/09/13/russia-has-secretly-spent-300-million-to-influence-foreign-elections-us-says/?sh=4c4879914784

    They forgot to bribe New Mexico, they went for biden

    What do American southwest investments in Russia ties have to do with the American south east, though?

    You should be asking why did Baturina wire 3.5 million to Rosemont
    Seneca Thornton, an offshoot of Rosemont Capital Partners, the private
    equity firm co-founded by Hunter Biden and Chris Heinz, the stepson of
    former Secretary of State John Kerry and how Baturina is one of the
    few Russian oligarchs who have escaped sanctions since Moscow’s Feb.
    24 invasion of Ukraine.


    I count...

    ...at least 5 separate unsupported assertions in there.

    Tell me what they are with your evidence they're unsupported.

    First, you don't seem to know what "unsupported assertion" means, but OK.

    1.

    "You should be asking why did Baturina wire 3.5 million to Rosemont
    Seneca Thornton."

    You haven't shown that that ever happened.

    The only "evidence" that it happened is a partisan Republican report
    that claims it happened...

    ...but provides no evidence of it.

    <https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/HSGAC_Finance_Report_FINAL.pdf>

    See: unlike you I'm not afraid of showing the facts.

    And even if there was money sent to what purported to be Rosemont Seneca Thornton, the partners in it had dissolved it before the transfer took
    place, and the money went in its entirety to Devin Archer.

    Also, unlike you, if you challenge any statement I make, I'm happy to
    back it up.



    2.

    "an offshoot of Rosemont Capital Partners"

    You haven't show that the two are in any way related.



    3.

    "the private equity firm co-founded by Hunter Biden and Chris Heinz"

    You haven't shown...etc.



    4.

    "the private equity firm co-founded by Hunter Biden and Chris Heinz"


    5.

    "Baturina is one of the few Russian oligarchs who have escaped sanctions"


    Got it now?

    :-)

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to One Putt on Tue Dec 27 13:32:36 2022
    On 2022-12-27 08:38, One Putt wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 12:16:22 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    And, then, there are the
    other snakes in the grass, Brennan and Comey, plus untold numbers of
    fellow travellers.

    You mean James Comey...

    ...the Republican Director of the FBI...

    ...who released a damaging report about Clinton's emails...

    ...(which turned out to be baseless)...

    ...just in time to damage her election chances?

    You sure do have a problem with facts;

    In April of 2016 Comey said he was no longer a republican and advised
    people to start voting democrat.

    Quote and source, please!


    July 5 of 2016 Comey holds a press conference exonerating Hillary even
    though it's not the job of the FBI to exonerate people, their job is
    to investigate, gather facts and turn it over to the AG who will make
    the decision. During the press conference Comey makes these
    statements;

    "Seven e-mail chains concern matters that were classified at the Top Secret/Special Access Program level when they were sent and received.
    These chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending e-mails about
    those matters and receiving e-mails from others about the same
    matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable
    person in Secretary Clinton’s position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding about these
    matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place
    for that conversation."

    "Separately, it is important to say something about the marking of
    classified information. Only a very small number of the e-mails
    containing classified information bore markings indicating the
    presence of classified information. But even if information is not
    marked “classified” in an e-mail, participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect
    it."

    "None of these e-mails should have been on any kind of unclassified
    system, but their presence is especially concerning because all of
    these e-mails were housed on unclassified personal servers not even
    supported by full-time security staff, like those found at Departments
    and Agencies of the U.S. Government — or even with a commercial
    service like Gmail."

    Despite finding classified documents on an unsecured server Comey
    exonerates her.

    October of 2016 emails related to Hillary’s personal email server
    turned up on a computer used by Huma Abedin and Anthony Weiner. The
    FBI reopens the investigation but Comey steps in to do damage control
    by saying it's just emails from the previous investigation, nothing
    new to see. That's twice Comey tries to downplay the email scandal.

    August of 2017 news breaks that evidence was discovered that shows
    Comey started to write the exoneration in April or May of 2016, two
    months before Hillary was interviewed.

    This evidence shows that Comey started drafting the exoneration the
    same time he publicly announced he was no longer a republican.

    January 2013 HSBC Holdings PLC named James Comey to their board. The London-based bank and its various philanthropic branches routinely
    partnered with the Clinton Foundation. Wealthy HSBC clients have
    donated mightily to the Clinton Foundation, including convicted sex
    offender, Jeffrey Epstein.

    October 1, 2005 Lockheed Martin announced James Comey as the
    corporations Senior Vice President and General Counsel. Lockheed
    Martin is a Clinton Foundation donor and in 2010 won 17 approvals for
    private contracts from the Hillary Clinton State Department. Comey
    earned $6 million in compensation from LM that very year.

    Between 2008 and 2010 investors in Uranium One, a Canadian mining
    company, donated heavily to the Clinton Foundation. This was the same
    time period Uranium One was trying to sell controlling interest to
    Rosatom, the Russian atomic energy agency. Since Uranium One operated
    20% of the uranaium mines in the U.S. several government agencies had
    to approve the sale, including Hillary Clinton's state department.

    We now have good reasons why Hillary may have been using a private
    server instead of a government server and why Comey may have
    exonerated her for her use of said private server and destroying over
    30,000 subpoenaed emails. This is not the first time Comey has given
    a Clinton a free pass. Twice before a Clinton scandal has crossed
    paths with Comey as an investigator and both times the investigations
    were closed with no explanation.

    I've giving you names and dates, you can veify all of this.

    You can provide your sources or I'll continue believe that a liar like
    you is going to lie.

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  • From One Putt@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Dec 30 13:23:57 2022
    On Tue, 27 Dec 2022 13:32:36 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2022-12-27 08:38, One Putt wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 12:16:22 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    And, then, there are the
    other snakes in the grass, Brennan and Comey, plus untold numbers of
    fellow travellers.

    You mean James Comey...

    ...the Republican Director of the FBI...

    ...who released a damaging report about Clinton's emails...

    ...(which turned out to be baseless)...

    ...just in time to damage her election chances?

    You sure do have a problem with facts;

    In April of 2016 Comey said he was no longer a republican and advised
    people to start voting democrat.

    Quote and source, please!

    https://www.politico.com/blogs/james-comey-testimony/2016/07/what-party-is-james-comey-registered-as-225223

    If that's not good enough Google has 1,870,000 results.

    July 5 of 2016 Comey holds a press conference exonerating Hillary even
    though it's not the job of the FBI to exonerate people, their job is
    to investigate, gather facts and turn it over to the AG who will make
    the decision. During the press conference Comey makes these
    statements;

    "Seven e-mail chains concern matters that were classified at the Top
    Secret/Special Access Program level when they were sent and received.
    These chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending e-mails about
    those matters and receiving e-mails from others about the same
    matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable
    person in Secretary Clintons position, or in the position of those
    government employees with whom she was corresponding about these
    matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place
    for that conversation."

    "Separately, it is important to say something about the marking of
    classified information. Only a very small number of the e-mails
    containing classified information bore markings indicating the
    presence of classified information. But even if information is not
    marked classified in an e-mail, participants who know or should know
    that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect
    it."

    "None of these e-mails should have been on any kind of unclassified
    system, but their presence is especially concerning because all of
    these e-mails were housed on unclassified personal servers not even
    supported by full-time security staff, like those found at Departments
    and Agencies of the U.S. Government or even with a commercial
    service like Gmail."

    Despite finding classified documents on an unsecured server Comey
    exonerates her.

    October of 2016 emails related to Hillarys personal email server
    turned up on a computer used by Huma Abedin and Anthony Weiner. The
    FBI reopens the investigation but Comey steps in to do damage control
    by saying it's just emails from the previous investigation, nothing
    new to see. That's twice Comey tries to downplay the email scandal.

    August of 2017 news breaks that evidence was discovered that shows
    Comey started to write the exoneration in April or May of 2016, two
    months before Hillary was interviewed.

    This evidence shows that Comey started drafting the exoneration the
    same time he publicly announced he was no longer a republican.

    January 2013 HSBC Holdings PLC named James Comey to their board. The
    London-based bank and its various philanthropic branches routinely
    partnered with the Clinton Foundation. Wealthy HSBC clients have
    donated mightily to the Clinton Foundation, including convicted sex
    offender, Jeffrey Epstein.

    October 1, 2005 Lockheed Martin announced James Comey as the
    corporations Senior Vice President and General Counsel. Lockheed
    Martin is a Clinton Foundation donor and in 2010 won 17 approvals for
    private contracts from the Hillary Clinton State Department. Comey
    earned $6 million in compensation from LM that very year.

    Between 2008 and 2010 investors in Uranium One, a Canadian mining
    company, donated heavily to the Clinton Foundation. This was the same
    time period Uranium One was trying to sell controlling interest to
    Rosatom, the Russian atomic energy agency. Since Uranium One operated
    20% of the uranaium mines in the U.S. several government agencies had
    to approve the sale, including Hillary Clinton's state department.

    We now have good reasons why Hillary may have been using a private
    server instead of a government server and why Comey may have
    exonerated her for her use of said private server and destroying over
    30,000 subpoenaed emails. This is not the first time Comey has given
    a Clinton a free pass. Twice before a Clinton scandal has crossed
    paths with Comey as an investigator and both times the investigations
    were closed with no explanation.

    I've giving you names and dates, you can veify all of this.

    You can provide your sources or I'll continue believe that a liar like
    you is going to lie.

    You accused me of being a liar. Prove it. I'll wait.

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  • From One Putt@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Dec 30 13:28:31 2022
    On Tue, 27 Dec 2022 13:31:38 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2022-12-27 07:47, One Putt wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 11:26:29 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2022-12-23 10:14, One Putt wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 09:38:40 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
    <bruce2bowser@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 10:42:21 PM UTC-5, marika wrote: >>>>>> On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 3:44:44 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote: >>>>>>> Russia Has Secretly Spent $300 Million To Influence Foreign Elections, U.S. Says
    Forbes Magazine - Sep 13, 2022
    -- https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2022/09/13/russia-has-secretly-spent-300-million-to-influence-foreign-elections-us-says/?sh=4c4879914784

    They forgot to bribe New Mexico, they went for biden

    What do American southwest investments in Russia ties have to do with the American south east, though?

    You should be asking why did Baturina wire 3.5 million to Rosemont
    Seneca Thornton, an offshoot of Rosemont Capital Partners, the private >>>> equity firm co-founded by Hunter Biden and Chris Heinz, the stepson of >>>> former Secretary of State John Kerry and how Baturina is one of the
    few Russian oligarchs who have escaped sanctions since Moscows Feb.
    24 invasion of Ukraine.


    I count...

    ...at least 5 separate unsupported assertions in there.

    Tell me what they are with your evidence they're unsupported.

    First, you don't seem to know what "unsupported assertion" means, but OK.

    1.

    "You should be asking why did Baturina wire 3.5 million to Rosemont
    Seneca Thornton."

    You haven't shown that that ever happened.

    The only "evidence" that it happened is a partisan Republican report
    that claims it happened...

    Coming from Senate republicans doesn't make it false, only harder for
    your political bias to accept as you've proven with your refusal to
    accept any evidence showing the data on Hunterls laptop is legit.

    ...but provides no evidence of it.

    <https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/HSGAC_Finance_Report_FINAL.pdf>

    See: unlike you I'm not afraid of showing the facts.

    You haven't shown any facts, only a link to the report with no links
    supporting your argument that it's false.

    "an offshoot of Rosemont Capital Partners"

    You haven't show that the two are in any way related.

    You haven't shown they aren't.

    https://nypost.com/2018/03/15/inside-the-shady-private-equity-firm-run-by-kerry-and-bidens-kids/


    3.

    "the private equity firm co-founded by Hunter Biden and Chris Heinz"

    You haven't shown...etc.

    You haven't shown this is false.

    https://nypost.com/2018/03/15/inside-the-shady-private-equity-firm-run-by-kerry-and-bidens-kids/


    4.

    "the private equity firm co-founded by Hunter Biden and Chris Heinz"

    Still no proof from you it's false.

    https://nypost.com/2018/03/15/inside-the-shady-private-equity-firm-run-by-kerry-and-bidens-kids/

    5.

    "Baturina is one of the few Russian oligarchs who have escaped sanctions"

    All over Google.

    https://www.worldtribune.com/one-russian-oligarch-not-targeted-for-u-s-sanctions-gave-hunter-biden-3-5-million/

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to One Putt on Fri Dec 30 15:39:19 2022
    On 2022-12-30 11:28, One Putt wrote:
    On Tue, 27 Dec 2022 13:31:38 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2022-12-27 07:47, One Putt wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 11:26:29 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2022-12-23 10:14, One Putt wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 09:38:40 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
    <bruce2bowser@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 10:42:21 PM UTC-5, marika wrote: >>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 3:44:44 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote: >>>>>>>> Russia Has Secretly Spent $300 Million To Influence Foreign Elections, U.S. Says
    Forbes Magazine - Sep 13, 2022
    -- https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2022/09/13/russia-has-secretly-spent-300-million-to-influence-foreign-elections-us-says/?sh=4c4879914784

    They forgot to bribe New Mexico, they went for biden

    What do American southwest investments in Russia ties have to do with the American south east, though?

    You should be asking why did Baturina wire 3.5 million to Rosemont
    Seneca Thornton, an offshoot of Rosemont Capital Partners, the private >>>>> equity firm co-founded by Hunter Biden and Chris Heinz, the stepson of >>>>> former Secretary of State John Kerry and how Baturina is one of the
    few Russian oligarchs who have escaped sanctions since Moscow’s Feb. >>>>> 24 invasion of Ukraine.


    I count...

    ...at least 5 separate unsupported assertions in there.

    Tell me what they are with your evidence they're unsupported.

    First, you don't seem to know what "unsupported assertion" means, but OK.

    1.

    "You should be asking why did Baturina wire 3.5 million to Rosemont
    Seneca Thornton."

    You haven't shown that that ever happened.

    The only "evidence" that it happened is a partisan Republican report
    that claims it happened...

    Coming from Senate republicans doesn't make it false, only harder for
    your political bias to accept as you've proven with your refusal to
    accept any evidence showing the data on Hunterls laptop is legit.

    Sorry, but I never said that it was false because it came from Senate Republicans.

    I said it was unsupported by evidence other than their say-so.


    ...but provides no evidence of it.

    <https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/HSGAC_Finance_Report_FINAL.pdf>

    See: unlike you I'm not afraid of showing the facts.

    You haven't shown any facts, only a link to the report with no links supporting your argument that it's false.

    I've shown the fact that they provided no basis for their claim


    "an offshoot of Rosemont Capital Partners"

    You haven't show that the two are in any way related.

    You haven't shown they aren't.

    https://nypost.com/2018/03/15/inside-the-shady-private-equity-firm-run-by-kerry-and-bidens-kids/

    It's not my job to show they aren't.

    It's yours to show they are.

    And as always, Irving, you've utterly failed.



    3.

    "the private equity firm co-founded by Hunter Biden and Chris Heinz"

    You haven't shown...etc.

    You haven't shown this is false.

    https://nypost.com/2018/03/15/inside-the-shady-private-equity-firm-run-by-kerry-and-bidens-kids/


    4.

    "the private equity firm co-founded by Hunter Biden and Chris Heinz"

    Still no proof from you it's false.

    https://nypost.com/2018/03/15/inside-the-shady-private-equity-firm-run-by-kerry-and-bidens-kids/

    5.

    "Baturina is one of the few Russian oligarchs who have escaped sanctions"

    All over Google.

    https://www.worldtribune.com/one-russian-oligarch-not-targeted-for-u-s-sanctions-gave-hunter-biden-3-5-million/


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