• Re: Men Without Work, analysis of this troubling trend

    From Alan@21:1/5 to TomS on Mon Oct 24 12:33:11 2022
    On 2022-10-24 12:28, TomS wrote:
    Economist Nick Eberstadt has studied this problem where we now have 7 million prime age (25-54) males that have dropped out of the workforce (NILF):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3zjP08y0vg
    Introduction 2:20
    Long-term trend GDP 4:20
    Labor participation rate 6:00
    Prime age male work crisis 8:00
    Army of men w/o work 9:40
    Pre-COVID vs Great Depression 12:00
    Third labor group 14:12
    Downward mobility 15:53
    US Race to bottom 16:50
    Unworking pool by race 18:10
    Marriage factor 18:50
    Why has this happened? 22:50
    NILF rates by state 26:00
    NILF and disability benefits 27:48
    How NILF spend their time 29:00
    Disability benefits vs education 31:00
    Felons 33:00
    COVID employment recovery 34:00
    Unemployment benefits 35:00
    Unfilled job openings 36:00
    Q&A 40:00:00

    "The Acton Institute is a think-tank whose mission is to promote a free
    and virtuous society characterized by individual liberty and sustained
    by religious principles."

    Now that sounds completely unbiased, doesn't it?

    LOL!

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  • From TomS@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 24 12:28:55 2022
    Economist Nick Eberstadt has studied this problem where we now have 7 million prime age (25-54) males that have dropped out of the workforce (NILF):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3zjP08y0vg
    Introduction 2:20
    Long-term trend GDP 4:20
    Labor participation rate 6:00
    Prime age male work crisis 8:00
    Army of men w/o work 9:40
    Pre-COVID vs Great Depression 12:00
    Third labor group 14:12
    Downward mobility 15:53
    US Race to bottom 16:50
    Unworking pool by race 18:10
    Marriage factor 18:50
    Why has this happened? 22:50
    NILF rates by state 26:00
    NILF and disability benefits 27:48
    How NILF spend their time 29:00
    Disability benefits vs education 31:00
    Felons 33:00
    COVID employment recovery 34:00
    Unemployment benefits 35:00
    Unfilled job openings 36:00
    Q&A 40:00:00

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Oct 24 13:36:32 2022
    On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 3:33:13 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-10-24 12:28, TomS wrote:
    Economist Nick Eberstadt has studied this problem where we now have 7 million prime age (25-54) males that have dropped out of the workforce (NILF):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3zjP08y0vg
    Introduction 2:20
    Long-term trend GDP 4:20
    Labor participation rate 6:00
    Prime age male work crisis 8:00
    Army of men w/o work 9:40
    Pre-COVID vs Great Depression 12:00
    Third labor group 14:12
    Downward mobility 15:53
    US Race to bottom 16:50
    Unworking pool by race 18:10
    Marriage factor 18:50
    Why has this happened? 22:50
    NILF rates by state 26:00
    NILF and disability benefits 27:48
    How NILF spend their time 29:00
    Disability benefits vs education 31:00
    Felons 33:00
    COVID employment recovery 34:00
    Unemployment benefits 35:00
    Unfilled job openings 36:00
    Q&A 40:00:00

    "The Acton Institute is a think-tank whose mission is to promote a free
    and virtuous society characterized by individual liberty and sustained
    by religious principles."

    Now that sounds completely unbiased, doesn't it?

    LOL!

    Perhaps Tommy can provide the time stamp for where he talks about
    the workers lost from the increase in (so far) permanent disability from
    long CoVid.

    -hh

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  • From TomS@21:1/5 to -hh on Mon Oct 24 20:46:35 2022
    On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 1:36:34 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 3:33:13 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-10-24 12:28, TomS wrote:
    Economist Nick Eberstadt has studied this problem where we now have 7 million prime age (25-54) males that have dropped out of the workforce (NILF):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3zjP08y0vg
    Introduction 2:20
    Long-term trend GDP 4:20
    Labor participation rate 6:00
    Prime age male work crisis 8:00
    Army of men w/o work 9:40
    Pre-COVID vs Great Depression 12:00
    Third labor group 14:12
    Downward mobility 15:53
    US Race to bottom 16:50
    Unworking pool by race 18:10
    Marriage factor 18:50
    Why has this happened? 22:50
    NILF rates by state 26:00
    NILF and disability benefits 27:48
    How NILF spend their time 29:00
    Disability benefits vs education 31:00
    Felons 33:00
    COVID employment recovery 34:00
    Unemployment benefits 35:00
    Unfilled job openings 36:00
    Q&A 40:00:00

    "The Acton Institute is a think-tank whose mission is to promote a free
    and virtuous society characterized by individual liberty and sustained
    by religious principles."

    Now that sounds completely unbiased, doesn't it?

    LOL!
    Perhaps Tommy can provide the time stamp for where he talks about
    the workers lost from the increase in (so far) permanent disability from
    long CoVid.

    -hh

    This presentation IS NOT from the Acton Institute - it IS by Prof. Nick Eberstadt. ALL of his data is from publicly available sources and is VERIFIABLE.

    He DOES talk about disabilities at 31:00, but the data do not differentiate by type.

    You obviously have not watched it.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to TomS on Mon Oct 24 20:53:40 2022
    On 2022-10-24 20:46, TomS wrote:
    On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 1:36:34 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 3:33:13 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-10-24 12:28, TomS wrote:
    Economist Nick Eberstadt has studied this problem where we now
    have 7 million prime age (25-54) males that have dropped out of
    the workforce (NILF):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3zjP08y0vg Introduction 2:20
    Long-term trend GDP 4:20 Labor participation rate 6:00 Prime
    age male work crisis 8:00 Army of men w/o work 9:40 Pre-COVID
    vs Great Depression 12:00 Third labor group 14:12 Downward
    mobility 15:53 US Race to bottom 16:50 Unworking pool by race
    18:10 Marriage factor 18:50 Why has this happened? 22:50 NILF
    rates by state 26:00 NILF and disability benefits 27:48 How
    NILF spend their time 29:00 Disability benefits vs education
    31:00 Felons 33:00 COVID employment recovery 34:00 Unemployment
    benefits 35:00 Unfilled job openings 36:00 Q&A 40:00:00

    "The Acton Institute is a think-tank whose mission is to promote
    a free and virtuous society characterized by individual liberty
    and sustained by religious principles."

    Now that sounds completely unbiased, doesn't it?

    LOL!
    Perhaps Tommy can provide the time stamp for where he talks about
    the workers lost from the increase in (so far) permanent disability
    from long CoVid.

    -hh

    This presentation IS NOT from the Acton Institute - it IS by Prof.
    Nick Eberstadt. ALL of his data is from publicly available sources
    and is VERIFIABLE.

    Then why is it on the Acton Institute's YouTube channel?

    And why is the introduction to the video given by the Director of
    Program Outreach... ...for the Acton Institute.

    Do you imagine that anyone with a view that opposes what the Acton
    Institute is pushing gets invited to lecture at the "Acton Lecture Series"?

    Why does Eberstadt work for another right-wing think tank: the American Enterprise Institute?


    He DOES talk about disabilities at 31:00, but the data do not
    differentiate by type.

    You obviously have not watched it.

    I'm not interested political screeds.

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  • From TomS@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Oct 24 21:32:43 2022
    On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 8:53:42 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-10-24 20:46, TomS wrote:
    On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 1:36:34 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 3:33:13 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-10-24 12:28, TomS wrote:
    Economist Nick Eberstadt has studied this problem where we now
    have 7 million prime age (25-54) males that have dropped out of
    the workforce (NILF):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3zjP08y0vg Introduction 2:20
    Long-term trend GDP 4:20 Labor participation rate 6:00 Prime
    age male work crisis 8:00 Army of men w/o work 9:40 Pre-COVID
    vs Great Depression 12:00 Third labor group 14:12 Downward
    mobility 15:53 US Race to bottom 16:50 Unworking pool by race
    18:10 Marriage factor 18:50 Why has this happened? 22:50 NILF
    rates by state 26:00 NILF and disability benefits 27:48 How
    NILF spend their time 29:00 Disability benefits vs education
    31:00 Felons 33:00 COVID employment recovery 34:00 Unemployment
    benefits 35:00 Unfilled job openings 36:00 Q&A 40:00:00

    "The Acton Institute is a think-tank whose mission is to promote
    a free and virtuous society characterized by individual liberty
    and sustained by religious principles."

    Now that sounds completely unbiased, doesn't it?

    LOL!
    Perhaps Tommy can provide the time stamp for where he talks about
    the workers lost from the increase in (so far) permanent disability
    from long CoVid.

    -hh

    This presentation IS NOT from the Acton Institute - it IS by Prof.
    Nick Eberstadt. ALL of his data is from publicly available sources
    and is VERIFIABLE.
    Then why is it on the Acton Institute's YouTube channel?

    And why is the introduction to the video given by the Director of
    Program Outreach... ...for the Acton Institute.

    Do you imagine that anyone with a view that opposes what the Acton
    Institute is pushing gets invited to lecture at the "Acton Lecture Series"?

    Why does Eberstadt work for another right-wing think tank: the American Enterprise Institute?

    He DOES talk about disabilities at 31:00, but the data do not differentiate by type.

    You obviously have not watched it.
    I'm not interested political screeds.

    Now, a FAIR-MINDED liberal would look at his data and analysis and find other explanations for what is happening. You, of course are NOT fair-minded and only seek to attack the person ad hominem. That IS your curse and you don't even know it, just
    another mindless follower.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to TomS on Mon Oct 24 22:24:56 2022
    On 2022-10-24 21:32, TomS wrote:
    On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 8:53:42 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-10-24 20:46, TomS wrote:
    On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 1:36:34 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 3:33:13 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-10-24 12:28, TomS wrote:
    Economist Nick Eberstadt has studied this problem where we now
    have 7 million prime age (25-54) males that have dropped out of
    the workforce (NILF):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3zjP08y0vg Introduction 2:20
    Long-term trend GDP 4:20 Labor participation rate 6:00 Prime
    age male work crisis 8:00 Army of men w/o work 9:40 Pre-COVID
    vs Great Depression 12:00 Third labor group 14:12 Downward
    mobility 15:53 US Race to bottom 16:50 Unworking pool by race
    18:10 Marriage factor 18:50 Why has this happened? 22:50 NILF
    rates by state 26:00 NILF and disability benefits 27:48 How
    NILF spend their time 29:00 Disability benefits vs education
    31:00 Felons 33:00 COVID employment recovery 34:00 Unemployment
    benefits 35:00 Unfilled job openings 36:00 Q&A 40:00:00

    "The Acton Institute is a think-tank whose mission is to promote
    a free and virtuous society characterized by individual liberty
    and sustained by religious principles."

    Now that sounds completely unbiased, doesn't it?

    LOL!
    Perhaps Tommy can provide the time stamp for where he talks about
    the workers lost from the increase in (so far) permanent disability
    from long CoVid.

    -hh

    This presentation IS NOT from the Acton Institute - it IS by Prof.
    Nick Eberstadt. ALL of his data is from publicly available sources
    and is VERIFIABLE.
    Then why is it on the Acton Institute's YouTube channel?

    And why is the introduction to the video given by the Director of
    Program Outreach... ...for the Acton Institute.

    Do you imagine that anyone with a view that opposes what the Acton
    Institute is pushing gets invited to lecture at the "Acton Lecture Series"? >>
    Why does Eberstadt work for another right-wing think tank: the American
    Enterprise Institute?

    He DOES talk about disabilities at 31:00, but the data do not
    differentiate by type.

    You obviously have not watched it.
    I'm not interested political screeds.

    Now, a FAIR-MINDED liberal would look at his data and analysis and find other explanations for what is happening. You, of course are NOT fair-minded and only seek to attack the person ad hominem. That IS your curse and you don't even know it, just
    another mindless follower.

    I consider the source before I waste my time...

    ...but then you still pay attention to Tucker Carlson, so you wouldn't understand.

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  • From TomS@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Oct 24 22:48:44 2022
    On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 10:24:59 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-10-24 21:32, TomS wrote:
    On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 8:53:42 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-10-24 20:46, TomS wrote:
    On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 1:36:34 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 3:33:13 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-10-24 12:28, TomS wrote:
    Economist Nick Eberstadt has studied this problem where we now
    have 7 million prime age (25-54) males that have dropped out of >>>>>> the workforce (NILF):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3zjP08y0vg Introduction 2:20
    Long-term trend GDP 4:20 Labor participation rate 6:00 Prime
    age male work crisis 8:00 Army of men w/o work 9:40 Pre-COVID
    vs Great Depression 12:00 Third labor group 14:12 Downward
    mobility 15:53 US Race to bottom 16:50 Unworking pool by race
    18:10 Marriage factor 18:50 Why has this happened? 22:50 NILF
    rates by state 26:00 NILF and disability benefits 27:48 How
    NILF spend their time 29:00 Disability benefits vs education
    31:00 Felons 33:00 COVID employment recovery 34:00 Unemployment >>>>>> benefits 35:00 Unfilled job openings 36:00 Q&A 40:00:00

    "The Acton Institute is a think-tank whose mission is to promote
    a free and virtuous society characterized by individual liberty
    and sustained by religious principles."

    Now that sounds completely unbiased, doesn't it?

    LOL!
    Perhaps Tommy can provide the time stamp for where he talks about
    the workers lost from the increase in (so far) permanent disability >>>> from long CoVid.

    -hh

    This presentation IS NOT from the Acton Institute - it IS by Prof.
    Nick Eberstadt. ALL of his data is from publicly available sources
    and is VERIFIABLE.
    Then why is it on the Acton Institute's YouTube channel?

    And why is the introduction to the video given by the Director of
    Program Outreach... ...for the Acton Institute.

    Do you imagine that anyone with a view that opposes what the Acton
    Institute is pushing gets invited to lecture at the "Acton Lecture Series"?

    Why does Eberstadt work for another right-wing think tank: the American >> Enterprise Institute?

    He DOES talk about disabilities at 31:00, but the data do not
    differentiate by type.

    You obviously have not watched it.
    I'm not interested political screeds.

    Now, a FAIR-MINDED liberal would look at his data and analysis and find other explanations for what is happening. You, of course are NOT fair-minded and only seek to attack the person ad hominem. That IS your curse and you don't even know it, just
    another mindless follower.
    I consider the source before I waste my time...

    ...but then you still pay attention to Tucker Carlson, so you wouldn't understand.

    No, you DISMISS the source, Fool.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to TomS on Tue Oct 25 08:30:51 2022
    On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 11:46:37 PM UTC-4, TomS wrote:
    On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 1:36:34 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 3:33:13 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-10-24 12:28, TomS wrote:
    Economist Nick Eberstadt has studied this problem where we now have 7 million prime age (25-54) males that have dropped out of the workforce (NILF):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3zjP08y0vg
    Introduction 2:20
    Long-term trend GDP 4:20
    Labor participation rate 6:00
    Prime age male work crisis 8:00
    Army of men w/o work 9:40
    Pre-COVID vs Great Depression 12:00
    Third labor group 14:12
    Downward mobility 15:53
    US Race to bottom 16:50
    Unworking pool by race 18:10
    Marriage factor 18:50
    Why has this happened? 22:50
    NILF rates by state 26:00
    NILF and disability benefits 27:48
    How NILF spend their time 29:00
    Disability benefits vs education 31:00
    Felons 33:00
    COVID employment recovery 34:00
    Unemployment benefits 35:00
    Unfilled job openings 36:00
    Q&A 40:00:00

    "The Acton Institute is a think-tank whose mission is to promote a free and virtuous society characterized by individual liberty and sustained by religious principles."

    Now that sounds completely unbiased, doesn't it?

    LOL!
    Perhaps Tommy can provide the time stamp for where he talks about
    the workers lost from the increase in (so far) permanent disability from long CoVid.


    This presentation IS NOT from the Acton Institute - it IS by Prof. Nick Eberstadt.
    ALL of his data is from publicly available sources and is VERIFIABLE.

    It doesn’t matter if it’s verifiable they ignore a major variable.


    He DOES talk about disabilities at 31:00, but the data do not differentiate by type.

    So just what points does it make? For example, did they see a trend change?


    You obviously have not watched it.

    Of course not; I’ve not seen anything in your advertisement of it that
    makes it appear to be worth watching…almost marked your post as spam.

    -hh

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to TomS on Tue Oct 25 18:25:21 2022
    On 2022-10-25 18:18, TomS wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 8:30:53 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 11:46:37 PM UTC-4, TomS wrote:
    On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 1:36:34 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 3:33:13 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-10-24 12:28, TomS wrote:
    Economist Nick Eberstadt has studied this problem where we now have 7 million prime age (25-54) males that have dropped out of the workforce (NILF):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3zjP08y0vg
    Introduction 2:20
    Long-term trend GDP 4:20
    Labor participation rate 6:00
    Prime age male work crisis 8:00
    Army of men w/o work 9:40
    Pre-COVID vs Great Depression 12:00
    Third labor group 14:12
    Downward mobility 15:53
    US Race to bottom 16:50
    Unworking pool by race 18:10
    Marriage factor 18:50
    Why has this happened? 22:50
    NILF rates by state 26:00
    NILF and disability benefits 27:48
    How NILF spend their time 29:00
    Disability benefits vs education 31:00
    Felons 33:00
    COVID employment recovery 34:00
    Unemployment benefits 35:00
    Unfilled job openings 36:00
    Q&A 40:00:00

    "The Acton Institute is a think-tank whose mission is to promote a free >>>>> and virtuous society characterized by individual liberty and sustained >>>>> by religious principles."

    Now that sounds completely unbiased, doesn't it?

    LOL!
    Perhaps Tommy can provide the time stamp for where he talks about
    the workers lost from the increase in (so far) permanent disability from >>>> long CoVid.


    This presentation IS NOT from the Acton Institute - it IS by Prof. Nick Eberstadt.
    ALL of his data is from publicly available sources and is VERIFIABLE.
    It doesn’t matter if it’s verifiable they ignore a major variable.

    He DOES talk about disabilities at 31:00, but the data do not differentiate by type.
    So just what points does it make? For example, did they see a trend change? >>>
    You obviously have not watched it.
    Of course not; I’ve not seen anything in your advertisement of it that
    makes it appear to be worth watching…almost marked your post as spam.

    -hh

    You can see the points he make by WATCHING THE VIDEO! DUH!!

    You claim he made lots of points which means, implicitly, you're
    claiming you've seen the video.

    So let's read your description of the most important point he makes.

    Please tell us what time stamp corresponds to his making it, and...

    ...don't just shrill "ALL OF THEM!!!".

    Just pick one.

    :-)

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  • From TomS@21:1/5 to -hh on Tue Oct 25 18:18:43 2022
    On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 8:30:53 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 11:46:37 PM UTC-4, TomS wrote:
    On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 1:36:34 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 3:33:13 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-10-24 12:28, TomS wrote:
    Economist Nick Eberstadt has studied this problem where we now have 7 million prime age (25-54) males that have dropped out of the workforce (NILF):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3zjP08y0vg
    Introduction 2:20
    Long-term trend GDP 4:20
    Labor participation rate 6:00
    Prime age male work crisis 8:00
    Army of men w/o work 9:40
    Pre-COVID vs Great Depression 12:00
    Third labor group 14:12
    Downward mobility 15:53
    US Race to bottom 16:50
    Unworking pool by race 18:10
    Marriage factor 18:50
    Why has this happened? 22:50
    NILF rates by state 26:00
    NILF and disability benefits 27:48
    How NILF spend their time 29:00
    Disability benefits vs education 31:00
    Felons 33:00
    COVID employment recovery 34:00
    Unemployment benefits 35:00
    Unfilled job openings 36:00
    Q&A 40:00:00

    "The Acton Institute is a think-tank whose mission is to promote a free
    and virtuous society characterized by individual liberty and sustained by religious principles."

    Now that sounds completely unbiased, doesn't it?

    LOL!
    Perhaps Tommy can provide the time stamp for where he talks about
    the workers lost from the increase in (so far) permanent disability from long CoVid.


    This presentation IS NOT from the Acton Institute - it IS by Prof. Nick Eberstadt.
    ALL of his data is from publicly available sources and is VERIFIABLE.
    It doesn’t matter if it’s verifiable they ignore a major variable.

    He DOES talk about disabilities at 31:00, but the data do not differentiate by type.
    So just what points does it make? For example, did they see a trend change?

    You obviously have not watched it.
    Of course not; I’ve not seen anything in your advertisement of it that makes it appear to be worth watching…almost marked your post as spam.

    -hh

    You can see the points he make by WATCHING THE VIDEO! DUH!!

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Oct 25 19:32:39 2022
    On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 9:25:23 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-10-25 18:18, TomS wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 8:30:53 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 11:46:37 PM UTC-4, TomS wrote:
    On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 1:36:34 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 3:33:13 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-10-24 12:28, TomS wrote:
    Economist Nick Eberstadt has studied this problem where we now have 7 million prime age (25-54) males that have dropped out of the workforce (NILF):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3zjP08y0vg
    Introduction 2:20
    Long-term trend GDP 4:20
    Labor participation rate 6:00
    Prime age male work crisis 8:00
    Army of men w/o work 9:40
    Pre-COVID vs Great Depression 12:00
    Third labor group 14:12
    Downward mobility 15:53
    US Race to bottom 16:50
    Unworking pool by race 18:10
    Marriage factor 18:50
    Why has this happened? 22:50
    NILF rates by state 26:00
    NILF and disability benefits 27:48
    How NILF spend their time 29:00
    Disability benefits vs education 31:00
    Felons 33:00
    COVID employment recovery 34:00
    Unemployment benefits 35:00
    Unfilled job openings 36:00
    Q&A 40:00:00

    "The Acton Institute is a think-tank whose mission is to promote a free
    and virtuous society characterized by individual liberty and sustained >>>>> by religious principles."

    Now that sounds completely unbiased, doesn't it?

    LOL!
    Perhaps Tommy can provide the time stamp for where he talks about
    the workers lost from the increase in (so far) permanent disability from
    long CoVid.


    This presentation IS NOT from the Acton Institute - it IS by Prof. Nick Eberstadt.
    ALL of his data is from publicly available sources and is VERIFIABLE.

    It doesn’t matter if it’s verifiable they ignore a major variable. >>>
    He DOES talk about disabilities at 31:00, but the data do not differentiate by type.
    So just what points does it make? For example, did they see a trend change?

    You obviously have not watched it.

    Of course not; I’ve not seen anything in your advertisement of it that >> makes it appear to be worth watching…almost marked your post as spam.


    You can see the points he make by WATCHING THE VIDEO! DUH!!

    You claim he made lots of points which means, implicitly, you're
    claiming you've seen the video.

    So let's read your description of the most important point he makes.

    Please tell us what time stamp corresponds to his making it, and...

    ...don't just shrill "ALL OF THEM!!!".

    Just pick one.

    :-)

    I watched his 3 minutes on supposedly disability benefits vs education,
    and didn’t actually see that covered. Instead, it was a rant on Opioids
    and how Medicaid underwrites costs. The implied correlation to income
    isn’t really mentioned; it appears that the authors assume injury risk from all jobs is equal and fungible.

    -hh

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  • From TomS@21:1/5 to -hh on Wed Oct 26 16:06:54 2022
    On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 7:32:41 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 9:25:23 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-10-25 18:18, TomS wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 8:30:53 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 11:46:37 PM UTC-4, TomS wrote:
    On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 1:36:34 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 3:33:13 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-10-24 12:28, TomS wrote:
    Economist Nick Eberstadt has studied this problem where we now have 7 million prime age (25-54) males that have dropped out of the workforce (NILF):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3zjP08y0vg
    Introduction 2:20
    Long-term trend GDP 4:20
    Labor participation rate 6:00
    Prime age male work crisis 8:00
    Army of men w/o work 9:40
    Pre-COVID vs Great Depression 12:00
    Third labor group 14:12
    Downward mobility 15:53
    US Race to bottom 16:50
    Unworking pool by race 18:10
    Marriage factor 18:50
    Why has this happened? 22:50
    NILF rates by state 26:00
    NILF and disability benefits 27:48
    How NILF spend their time 29:00
    Disability benefits vs education 31:00
    Felons 33:00
    COVID employment recovery 34:00
    Unemployment benefits 35:00
    Unfilled job openings 36:00
    Q&A 40:00:00

    "The Acton Institute is a think-tank whose mission is to promote a free
    and virtuous society characterized by individual liberty and sustained
    by religious principles."

    Now that sounds completely unbiased, doesn't it?

    LOL!
    Perhaps Tommy can provide the time stamp for where he talks about >>>> the workers lost from the increase in (so far) permanent disability from
    long CoVid.


    This presentation IS NOT from the Acton Institute - it IS by Prof. Nick Eberstadt.
    ALL of his data is from publicly available sources and is VERIFIABLE. >>
    It doesn’t matter if it’s verifiable they ignore a major variable. >>>
    He DOES talk about disabilities at 31:00, but the data do not differentiate by type.
    So just what points does it make? For example, did they see a trend change?

    You obviously have not watched it.

    Of course not; I’ve not seen anything in your advertisement of it that
    makes it appear to be worth watching…almost marked your post as spam.


    You can see the points he make by WATCHING THE VIDEO! DUH!!

    You claim he made lots of points which means, implicitly, you're
    claiming you've seen the video.

    So let's read your description of the most important point he makes.

    Please tell us what time stamp corresponds to his making it, and...

    ...don't just shrill "ALL OF THEM!!!".

    Just pick one.

    :-)
    I watched his 3 minutes on supposedly disability benefits vs education,
    and didn’t actually see that covered. Instead, it was a rant on Opioids and how Medicaid underwrites costs. The implied correlation to income isn’t really mentioned; it appears that the authors assume injury risk from
    all jobs is equal and fungible.

    -hh

    Hey Lyin' Asshole, at least I will have to give you credit for watching 3 min out of SIXTY, but the correlation is clear: less educated males are more addicted than higher educated ones. The US government confirms this:
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31757520/#:~:text=Results%3A%20Nearly%20one%2Dthird%20(,while%20attending%20an%20educational%20institution.

    Results: Nearly one-third (32.2%) of the US population is estimated to have earned a bachelor's/advanced degree, compared to just 7.8% of treatment-seeking opioid users. Over half of follow-up respondents (57.5%) reported initiating regular opioid use
    while attending an educational institution. The majority (68.0%) also indicated opioids negatively impacted their education, with drug-seeking behavior prioritized over attendance and academic performance. Perceived benefits included cognitive
    enhancement and therapeutic value for anxiety/depression.

    Conclusions: Our data suggest that opioid users achieve lower levels of education, which may result in both individual and economic costs. Prevention programs need to not only include education-specific risk factors (e.g., social norms), but underlying
    precipitators such as mental health, stigma, and the myth of risk-free cognitive enhancement. Opioid specific services should be available and disseminated to student populations, including certification of campus physicians to provide buprenorphine
    maintenance

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