• Pitts won the bet

    From Irving S@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 21 06:53:26 2022
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I really loved watching him play, he was amazing in his prime. But, he will never surpass the record of Jack, as far as majors won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma to his body. He is strictly ceremonial at this point. Sad, but true.

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  • From KenPitts@21:1/5 to Irving S on Wed Sep 21 08:01:23 2022
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM UTC-5, Irving S wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I really loved watching him play, he was amazing in his prime. But, he will never surpass the record of Jack, as far as majors won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma to his body. He is strictly ceremonial at this point. Sad, but true.

    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident occurred. I think he will only show up at majors from here on out. That is unless the regular tour event has some special significance for him. Two things - his showing at the Open Championship was a big
    indicator that his progress is limited. Also, did you see how badly he was limping when he showed up for that meeting with Rory and the others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to be a racist because I was not in love with Tiger like so many others. Whatever. I should have given it more thought. carbon wins if Tiger breaks the record. I only win when carbon gives up. I pay when I lose
    - ask Annika1980 and Rev Leroy. And given my age, carbon could run out the clock.

    Ken

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  • From Irving S@21:1/5 to KenPitts on Wed Sep 21 08:33:42 2022
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 11:01:25 AM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM UTC-5, Irving S wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I really loved watching him play, he was amazing in his prime. But, he will never surpass the record of Jack, as far as majors won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma to his body. He is strictly ceremonial at this point. Sad, but true.
    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident occurred. I think he will only show up at majors from here on out. That is unless the regular tour event has some special significance for him. Two things - his showing at the Open Championship was a big
    indicator that his progress is limited. Also, did you see how badly he was limping when he showed up for that meeting with Rory and the others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to be a racist because I was not in love with Tiger like so many others. Whatever. I should have given it more thought. carbon wins if Tiger breaks the record. I only win when carbon gives up. I pay when I
    lose - ask Annika1980 and Rev Leroy. And given my age, carbon could run out the clock.

    Ken

    Greetings Ken

    No doubt, you won the bet. There is no conceivable way Tiger could win again. It is just impossible, given his sad physical state. Unfortunate indeed, but it is what it is.

    Nothing racist at all about having issues with Tiger. That is just a bored imbecile troll trying to give you a hard time. Continue to ignore this pathetic specimen, he is not worth urinating on. I applaud Tiger's skills as an athlete, but I
    always thought he was two people, what he is and what the media portrays. What he did to his wife, such a beautiful woman, is a disgrace. Shows a real lack of class, sneaking around and lying like that, and putting his wife in danger of catching who
    knows what. Read Haneys book on Tiger, very enlightening about Tiger.

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  • From KenPitts@21:1/5 to KenPitts on Wed Sep 21 08:16:14 2022
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 10:01:25 AM UTC-5, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM UTC-5, Irving S wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I really loved watching him play, he was amazing in his prime. But, he will never surpass the record of Jack, as far as majors won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma to his body. He is strictly ceremonial at this point. Sad, but true.
    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident occurred. I think he will only show up at majors from here on out. That is unless the regular tour event has some special significance for him. Two things - his showing at the Open Championship was a big
    indicator that his progress is limited. Also, did you see how badly he was limping when he showed up for that meeting with Rory and the others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to be a racist because I was not in love with Tiger like so many others. Whatever. I should have given it more thought. carbon wins if Tiger breaks the record. I only win when carbon gives up. I pay when I
    lose - ask Annika1980 and Rev Leroy. And given my age, carbon could run out the clock.

    Ken

    BTW, props to Tiger for making it back at all and his showing at the Masters. Like I said, I really thought having a leg destroyed would put an end to his competitive golf at the highest levels.

    Ken

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to KenPitts on Wed Sep 21 12:33:56 2022
    On 2022-09-21 08:01, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM UTC-5, Irving S
    wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I really loved
    watching him play, he was amazing in his prime. But, he will never
    surpass the record of Jack, as far as majors won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma to his body. He is
    strictly ceremonial at this point. Sad, but true.

    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident occurred. I think he
    will only show up at majors from here on out. That is unless the
    regular tour event has some special significance for him. Two things
    - his showing at the Open Championship was a big indicator that his
    progress is limited. Also, did you see how badly he was limping when
    he showed up for that meeting with Rory and the others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to be a racist because I
    was not in love with Tiger like so many others. Whatever. I should
    have given it more thought. carbon wins if Tiger breaks the record. I
    only win when carbon gives up. I pay when I lose - ask Annika1980 and
    Rev Leroy. And given my age, carbon could run out the clock.


    I don't recall Carbon calling you a racist...

    ...but you clearly are.

    Your standards for accusing athletes of inappropriate behaviour clearly
    changed with the colour of the athletes skin.

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  • From Irving S@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Sep 21 14:31:41 2022
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:33:58 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 08:01, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM UTC-5, Irving S
    wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I really loved
    watching him play, he was amazing in his prime. But, he will never
    surpass the record of Jack, as far as majors won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma to his body. He is
    strictly ceremonial at this point. Sad, but true.

    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident occurred. I think he
    will only show up at majors from here on out. That is unless the
    regular tour event has some special significance for him. Two things
    - his showing at the Open Championship was a big indicator that his progress is limited. Also, did you see how badly he was limping when
    he showed up for that meeting with Rory and the others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to be a racist because I
    was not in love with Tiger like so many others. Whatever. I should
    have given it more thought. carbon wins if Tiger breaks the record. I
    only win when carbon gives up. I pay when I lose - ask Annika1980 and
    Rev Leroy. And given my age, carbon could run out the clock.
    I don't recall Carbon calling you a racist...

    ...but you clearly are.

    Your standards for accusing athletes of inappropriate behaviour clearly changed with the colour of the athletes skin.

    Hilarious. You have called Pitts a racist before, years ago. . Nothing has changed, you have not evolved. The same old material we heard before, repeated again. Sad old man, really sad.

    You need to sit down and think about some new material. Repeating the same shit over and over, dude we know you can do better!

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Irving S on Wed Sep 21 14:50:47 2022
    On 2022-09-21 14:31, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:33:58 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 08:01, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM UTC-5, Irving S
    wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I really loved
    watching him play, he was amazing in his prime. But, he will
    never surpass the record of Jack, as far as majors won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma to his body.
    He is strictly ceremonial at this point. Sad, but true.

    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident occurred. I think
    he will only show up at majors from here on out. That is unless
    the regular tour event has some special significance for him. Two
    things - his showing at the Open Championship was a big indicator
    that his progress is limited. Also, did you see how badly he was
    limping when he showed up for that meeting with Rory and the
    others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to be a racist
    because I was not in love with Tiger like so many others.
    Whatever. I should have given it more thought. carbon wins if
    Tiger breaks the record. I only win when carbon gives up. I pay
    when I lose - ask Annika1980 and Rev Leroy. And given my age,
    carbon could run out the clock.
    I don't recall Carbon calling you a racist...

    ...but you clearly are.

    Your standards for accusing athletes of inappropriate behaviour
    clearly changed with the colour of the athletes skin.

    Hilarious. You have called Pitts a racist before, years ago. .

    Yes. I've never claimed I didn't, so what point are you making, Dickhead?

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  • From Irving S@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu Sep 22 11:55:09 2022
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:50:50 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 14:31, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:33:58 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 08:01, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM UTC-5, Irving S
    wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I really loved
    watching him play, he was amazing in his prime. But, he will
    never surpass the record of Jack, as far as majors won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma to his body.
    He is strictly ceremonial at this point. Sad, but true.

    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident occurred. I think
    he will only show up at majors from here on out. That is unless
    the regular tour event has some special significance for him. Two
    things - his showing at the Open Championship was a big indicator
    that his progress is limited. Also, did you see how badly he was
    limping when he showed up for that meeting with Rory and the
    others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to be a racist
    because I was not in love with Tiger like so many others.
    Whatever. I should have given it more thought. carbon wins if
    Tiger breaks the record. I only win when carbon gives up. I pay
    when I lose - ask Annika1980 and Rev Leroy. And given my age,
    carbon could run out the clock.
    I don't recall Carbon calling you a racist...

    ...but you clearly are.

    Your standards for accusing athletes of inappropriate behaviour
    clearly changed with the colour of the athletes skin.

    Hilarious. You have called Pitts a racist before, years ago. .
    Yes. I've never claimed I didn't, so what point are you making, Dickhead?

    . At least you are admitting you have called Pitts a racist. So easy for those on the left to call others racist. Well, I did just a quick search on Pitts and his comments abou Tiger, I find NOTHING overtly racist. Yes, Ken had issues with his on
    course behavior, but it was not related to race. Ken NEVER brought race into the discussion and I bet if Tiger was white, his comments wouid be identical. Please show us SPECIFIC comments that would say that Ken is a racist, otherwise once again you
    lose credibility. This is getting to be an ongoing issue with you Grandpa.

    Oh, and one more thing old man. Tom E made one comment about you appearance. You accused him of stalking you, after ONE comment. You have repeatedly called Ken a racist, is that not stalking. I mean how many times do we need you to remind us. What a
    crybaby you are. One post about your appearance, you accuse another of stalking, yet you can call others a racist over and over and that is not stalking? Incredible, you really are to be pitied.

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  • From Irving S@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu Sep 22 12:04:12 2022
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:50:50 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 14:31, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:33:58 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 08:01, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM UTC-5, Irving S
    wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I really loved
    watching him play, he was amazing in his prime. But, he will
    never surpass the record of Jack, as far as majors won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma to his body.
    He is strictly ceremonial at this point. Sad, but true.

    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident occurred. I think
    he will only show up at majors from here on out. That is unless
    the regular tour event has some special significance for him. Two
    things - his showing at the Open Championship was a big indicator
    that his progress is limited. Also, did you see how badly he was
    limping when he showed up for that meeting with Rory and the
    others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to be a racist
    because I was not in love with Tiger like so many others.
    Whatever. I should have given it more thought. carbon wins if
    Tiger breaks the record. I only win when carbon gives up. I pay
    when I lose - ask Annika1980 and Rev Leroy. And given my age,
    carbon could run out the clock.
    I don't recall Carbon calling you a racist...

    ...but you clearly are.

    Your standards for accusing athletes of inappropriate behaviour
    clearly changed with the colour of the athletes skin.

    Hilarious. You have called Pitts a racist before, years ago. .
    Yes. I've never claimed I didn't, so what point are you making, Dickhead?

    Oh, and one more thing old man. I know you have taken an interest of late in my dining times. I am working at home right now, but hope to finish by 5pm or so. Probably eat around 530pm or so. I got no idea what my wife will be cooking, but nothing
    much. Lot of leftovers around. If you would like, be happy to share what we enjoyed and the exact time we ate. I can even give you the time in GMT if that would satisfy you. WIth no wife, no kids, and being an apartment dweller with no property
    to maintain, you must have a lot of free time. I am happy to help you fill that void, be happy to share our menu and I can even share with you what time my daughter ate and what she had for dinner tonight, but I will have to call her. Seems you are
    really interested in this of late, glad to oblige! Anything to help pass the time and make you feel loved!

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Irving S on Thu Sep 22 12:19:41 2022
    On 2022-09-22 11:55, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:50:50 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 14:31, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:33:58 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 08:01, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM UTC-5, Irving
    S wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I really
    loved watching him play, he was amazing in his prime. But,
    he will never surpass the record of Jack, as far as majors
    won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma to his
    body. He is strictly ceremonial at this point. Sad, but
    true.

    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident occurred. I
    think he will only show up at majors from here on out. That
    is unless the regular tour event has some special
    significance for him. Two things - his showing at the Open
    Championship was a big indicator that his progress is
    limited. Also, did you see how badly he was limping when he
    showed up for that meeting with Rory and the others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to be a racist
    because I was not in love with Tiger like so many others.
    Whatever. I should have given it more thought. carbon wins
    if Tiger breaks the record. I only win when carbon gives up.
    I pay when I lose - ask Annika1980 and Rev Leroy. And given
    my age, carbon could run out the clock.
    I don't recall Carbon calling you a racist...

    ...but you clearly are.

    Your standards for accusing athletes of inappropriate
    behaviour clearly changed with the colour of the athletes
    skin.

    Hilarious. You have called Pitts a racist before, years ago. .
    Yes. I've never claimed I didn't, so what point are you making,
    Dickhead?

    . At least you are admitting you have called Pitts a racist. So
    easy for those on the left to call others racist. Well, I did just a

    I don't call everyone racists...

    ...just the ones who are obviously racist.

    quick search on Pitts and his comments abou Tiger, I find NOTHING
    overtly racist. Yes, Ken had issues with his on course behavior, but
    it was not related to race. Ken NEVER brought race into the
    discussion and I bet if Tiger was white, his comments wouid be
    identical. Please show us SPECIFIC comments that would say that Ken
    is a racist, otherwise once again you lose credibility. This is
    getting to be an ongoing issue with you Grandpa.

    Except his complaints about behaviour by athletes were always about
    black athletes.


    Oh, and one more thing old man. Tom E made one comment about you
    appearance. You accused him of stalking you, after ONE comment. You

    Nope.

    have repeatedly called Ken a racist, is that not stalking. I mean

    No, it's not.

    It's replying in a forum to messages he posted.

    how many times do we need you to remind us. What a crybaby you are.
    One post about your appearance, you accuse another of stalking, yet

    Wrong.

    you can call others a racist over and over and that is not stalking?

    Because it isn't.

    Incredible, you really are to be pitied.

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  • From Irving S@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu Sep 22 12:18:47 2022
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:50:50 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 14:31, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:33:58 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 08:01, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM UTC-5, Irving S
    wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I really loved
    watching him play, he was amazing in his prime. But, he will
    never surpass the record of Jack, as far as majors won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma to his body.
    He is strictly ceremonial at this point. Sad, but true.

    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident occurred. I think
    he will only show up at majors from here on out. That is unless
    the regular tour event has some special significance for him. Two
    things - his showing at the Open Championship was a big indicator
    that his progress is limited. Also, did you see how badly he was
    limping when he showed up for that meeting with Rory and the
    others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to be a racist
    because I was not in love with Tiger like so many others.
    Whatever. I should have given it more thought. carbon wins if
    Tiger breaks the record. I only win when carbon gives up. I pay
    when I lose - ask Annika1980 and Rev Leroy. And given my age,
    carbon could run out the clock.
    I don't recall Carbon calling you a racist...

    ...but you clearly are.

    Your standards for accusing athletes of inappropriate behaviour
    clearly changed with the colour of the athletes skin.

    Hilarious. You have called Pitts a racist before, years ago. .
    Yes. I've never claimed I didn't, so what point are you making, Dickhead?

    And even in the extremely rare event, that Ken is a racist, which he is absolutely not, he never did anything as goofy as this. Ken is no one's tool, seems you sure were.

    "Im posting another video. According to YouTube, processing the video
    has another 26 minutes to go (uploading having been completed some
    time
    ago). And whatever flaws there were in my first video, it doesn't
    attempt to obfuscate, nor is it fraudulent. It clearly showed me
    counting out Canadian currency which can't be faked with a scanner, or Photoshop." - Alan Baker

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  • From Irving S@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu Sep 22 12:41:12 2022
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:19:43 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 11:55, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:50:50 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 14:31, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:33:58 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 08:01, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM UTC-5, Irving
    S wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I really
    loved watching him play, he was amazing in his prime. But,
    he will never surpass the record of Jack, as far as majors
    won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma to his
    body. He is strictly ceremonial at this point. Sad, but
    true.

    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident occurred. I
    think he will only show up at majors from here on out. That
    is unless the regular tour event has some special
    significance for him. Two things - his showing at the Open
    Championship was a big indicator that his progress is
    limited. Also, did you see how badly he was limping when he
    showed up for that meeting with Rory and the others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to be a racist
    because I was not in love with Tiger like so many others.
    Whatever. I should have given it more thought. carbon wins
    if Tiger breaks the record. I only win when carbon gives up.
    I pay when I lose - ask Annika1980 and Rev Leroy. And given
    my age, carbon could run out the clock.
    I don't recall Carbon calling you a racist...

    ...but you clearly are.

    Your standards for accusing athletes of inappropriate
    behaviour clearly changed with the colour of the athletes
    skin.

    Hilarious. You have called Pitts a racist before, years ago. .
    Yes. I've never claimed I didn't, so what point are you making,
    Dickhead?

    . At least you are admitting you have called Pitts a racist. So
    easy for those on the left to call others racist. Well, I did just a
    I don't call everyone racists...

    ...just the ones who are obviously racist.
    quick search on Pitts and his comments abou Tiger, I find NOTHING
    overtly racist. Yes, Ken had issues with his on course behavior, but
    it was not related to race. Ken NEVER brought race into the
    discussion and I bet if Tiger was white, his comments wouid be
    identical. Please show us SPECIFIC comments that would say that Ken
    is a racist, otherwise once again you lose credibility. This is
    getting to be an ongoing issue with you Grandpa.
    Except his complaints about behaviour by athletes were always about
    black athletes.

    Oh, and one more thing old man. Tom E made one comment about you appearance. You accused him of stalking you, after ONE comment. You
    Nope.
    have repeatedly called Ken a racist, is that not stalking. I mean
    No, it's not.

    It's replying in a forum to messages he posted.
    how many times do we need you to remind us. What a crybaby you are.
    One post about your appearance, you accuse another of stalking, yet
    Wrong.
    you can call others a racist over and over and that is not stalking?
    Because it isn't.
    Incredible, you really are to be pitied.

    How many times do you have to remind us that you think Pitts is a racist? Does it not get old and repetitive after a while, or is this something you "get off" on. You have said it so many times, you insult your audience, do you not think we get it
    after you repeat it over and over. What the hell is wrong with you?

    I think he is a sweet decent man. I have never met him, but do know of one former RSG poster that has, and this person had nothing but good things to say about him. I heard he is beyond generous, and a fun guy to play golf with, married to a very
    beautiful woman and is a devoted family man. These are concepts foreign to you, you have no wife, no kids. Maybe you are just jealous, otherwise you would let this racism BS go already, it is way past old. And even if he WAS racist, what good does it
    do to accuse him over and over, and remind us over and over. We get it you clown, we got it a long time ago. You enjoy calling me "dickhead" keep at it, anything to help fill a void in your life and give you a sense of importance.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Irving S on Thu Sep 22 12:43:49 2022
    On 2022-09-22 12:41, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:19:43 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 11:55, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:50:50 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 14:31, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:33:58 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 08:01, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM UTC-5,
    Irving S wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I
    really loved watching him play, he was amazing in his
    prime. But, he will never surpass the record of Jack,
    as far as majors won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma to
    his body. He is strictly ceremonial at this point. Sad,
    but true.

    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident occurred.
    I think he will only show up at majors from here on out.
    That is unless the regular tour event has some special
    significance for him. Two things - his showing at the
    Open Championship was a big indicator that his progress
    is limited. Also, did you see how badly he was limping
    when he showed up for that meeting with Rory and the
    others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to be a
    racist because I was not in love with Tiger like so many
    others. Whatever. I should have given it more thought.
    carbon wins if Tiger breaks the record. I only win when
    carbon gives up. I pay when I lose - ask Annika1980 and
    Rev Leroy. And given my age, carbon could run out the
    clock.
    I don't recall Carbon calling you a racist...

    ...but you clearly are.

    Your standards for accusing athletes of inappropriate
    behaviour clearly changed with the colour of the athletes
    skin.

    Hilarious. You have called Pitts a racist before, years ago.
    .
    Yes. I've never claimed I didn't, so what point are you
    making, Dickhead?

    . At least you are admitting you have called Pitts a racist. So
    easy for those on the left to call others racist. Well, I did
    just a
    I don't call everyone racists...

    ...just the ones who are obviously racist.
    quick search on Pitts and his comments abou Tiger, I find
    NOTHING overtly racist. Yes, Ken had issues with his on course
    behavior, but it was not related to race. Ken NEVER brought race
    into the discussion and I bet if Tiger was white, his comments
    wouid be identical. Please show us SPECIFIC comments that would
    say that Ken is a racist, otherwise once again you lose
    credibility. This is getting to be an ongoing issue with you
    Grandpa.
    Except his complaints about behaviour by athletes were always
    about black athletes.

    Oh, and one more thing old man. Tom E made one comment about you
    appearance. You accused him of stalking you, after ONE comment.
    You
    Nope.
    have repeatedly called Ken a racist, is that not stalking. I
    mean
    No, it's not.

    It's replying in a forum to messages he posted.
    how many times do we need you to remind us. What a crybaby you
    are. One post about your appearance, you accuse another of
    stalking, yet
    Wrong.
    you can call others a racist over and over and that is not
    stalking?
    Because it isn't.
    Incredible, you really are to be pitied.

    How many times do you have to remind us that you think Pitts is a
    racist? Does it not get old and repetitive after a while, or is this

    How many times are you going to argue I'm not entitled to my opinion,
    Dickhead?

    something you "get off" on. You have said it so many times, you
    insult your audience, do you not think we get it after you repeat it
    over and over. What the hell is wrong with you?

    I think he is a sweet decent man. I have never met him, but do know

    That says everything right there.

    of one former RSG poster that has, and this person had nothing but
    good things to say about him. I heard he is beyond generous, and a
    fun guy to play golf with, married to a very beautiful woman and is
    a devoted family man. These are concepts foreign to you, you have no
    wife, no kids. Maybe you are just jealous, otherwise you would let
    this racism BS go already, it is way past old. And even if he WAS
    racist, what good does it do to accuse him over and over, and remind
    us over and over. We get it you clown, we got it a long time ago.
    You enjoy calling me "dickhead" keep at it, anything to help fill a
    void in your life and give you a sense of importance.

    I've met him.

    He's a jerk.

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  • From Irving S@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu Sep 22 13:15:20 2022
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:43:51 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 12:41, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:19:43 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 11:55, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:50:50 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 14:31, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:33:58 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 08:01, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM UTC-5,
    Irving S wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I
    really loved watching him play, he was amazing in his
    prime. But, he will never surpass the record of Jack,
    as far as majors won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma to
    his body. He is strictly ceremonial at this point. Sad,
    but true.

    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident occurred.
    I think he will only show up at majors from here on out.
    That is unless the regular tour event has some special
    significance for him. Two things - his showing at the
    Open Championship was a big indicator that his progress
    is limited. Also, did you see how badly he was limping
    when he showed up for that meeting with Rory and the
    others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to be a
    racist because I was not in love with Tiger like so many
    others. Whatever. I should have given it more thought.
    carbon wins if Tiger breaks the record. I only win when
    carbon gives up. I pay when I lose - ask Annika1980 and
    Rev Leroy. And given my age, carbon could run out the
    clock.
    I don't recall Carbon calling you a racist...

    ...but you clearly are.

    Your standards for accusing athletes of inappropriate
    behaviour clearly changed with the colour of the athletes
    skin.

    Hilarious. You have called Pitts a racist before, years ago.
    .
    Yes. I've never claimed I didn't, so what point are you
    making, Dickhead?

    . At least you are admitting you have called Pitts a racist. So
    easy for those on the left to call others racist. Well, I did
    just a
    I don't call everyone racists...

    ...just the ones who are obviously racist.
    quick search on Pitts and his comments abou Tiger, I find
    NOTHING overtly racist. Yes, Ken had issues with his on course
    behavior, but it was not related to race. Ken NEVER brought race
    into the discussion and I bet if Tiger was white, his comments
    wouid be identical. Please show us SPECIFIC comments that would
    say that Ken is a racist, otherwise once again you lose
    credibility. This is getting to be an ongoing issue with you
    Grandpa.
    Except his complaints about behaviour by athletes were always
    about black athletes.

    Oh, and one more thing old man. Tom E made one comment about you
    appearance. You accused him of stalking you, after ONE comment.
    You
    Nope.
    have repeatedly called Ken a racist, is that not stalking. I
    mean
    No, it's not.

    It's replying in a forum to messages he posted.
    how many times do we need you to remind us. What a crybaby you
    are. One post about your appearance, you accuse another of
    stalking, yet
    Wrong.
    you can call others a racist over and over and that is not
    stalking?
    Because it isn't.
    Incredible, you really are to be pitied.

    How many times do you have to remind us that you think Pitts is a
    racist? Does it not get old and repetitive after a while, or is this
    How many times are you going to argue I'm not entitled to my opinion, Dickhead?
    something you "get off" on. You have said it so many times, you
    insult your audience, do you not think we get it after you repeat it
    over and over. What the hell is wrong with you?

    I think he is a sweet decent man. I have never met him, but do know
    That says everything right there.
    of one former RSG poster that has, and this person had nothing but
    good things to say about him. I heard he is beyond generous, and a
    fun guy to play golf with, married to a very beautiful woman and is
    a devoted family man. These are concepts foreign to you, you have no
    wife, no kids. Maybe you are just jealous, otherwise you would let
    this racism BS go already, it is way past old. And even if he WAS
    racist, what good does it do to accuse him over and over, and remind
    us over and over. We get it you clown, we got it a long time ago.
    You enjoy calling me "dickhead" keep at it, anything to help fill a
    void in your life and give you a sense of importance.
    I've met him.

    He's a jerk.

    Hilarious! You MET him. Do you KNOW him, as a person. So based on a meeting or two at some RSG golf outings, we are to take you at your word that he's a jerk. How about some specifics, what has he done to you or done to others to deserve such a
    blanket characterization. And again, how many times do we have to hear your negative characterizations of the guy, we got it a long time ago. So other than your alleged racism and throwing a club which he denies, what in your world makes the guy a jerk?
    . You put the statement out there, now you need to back it up. Otherwise, once again you are shown to be a really bored and bitter blowhard.

    Oh, and one more think Grandpa. You said "He's a jerk". That is in the present tense. When is the last time you saw him? How many years? Whatever preoccupation you have with him, you still have not let it go. Wow!

    I never attended any of those RSG events, but Ken did sponsor one if I recall, and they all had a great time. If I am not mistaken, he won an event or two, and everyone was happy for him and said nice things about him and his game, based on the posts.
    So it seems others think Ken is a pretty cool stand up guy, you just seem to have some issue with him. Care to elaborate or are you at a loss of words old man? You made a statement, that he is a jerk. Have the gonads to tell him and the rest of us
    what he has done to deserve this. That after all these years, he has made such a strong impression on you, that he is still regarded as a "jerk". We will be waiting for an explanation. Maybe we can all agree that you have wore us all out with this
    bitterness and stupidity and need to let it go. We are talking years and years ago, and you still disparage the guy. Wow, are you to be pitied!

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  • From KenPitts@21:1/5 to Irving S on Thu Sep 22 14:25:21 2022
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:15:21 PM UTC-5, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:43:51 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 12:41, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:19:43 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 11:55, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:50:50 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 14:31, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:33:58 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 08:01, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM UTC-5,
    Irving S wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I
    really loved watching him play, he was amazing in his
    prime. But, he will never surpass the record of Jack,
    as far as majors won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma to
    his body. He is strictly ceremonial at this point. Sad,
    but true.

    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident occurred.
    I think he will only show up at majors from here on out.
    That is unless the regular tour event has some special
    significance for him. Two things - his showing at the
    Open Championship was a big indicator that his progress
    is limited. Also, did you see how badly he was limping
    when he showed up for that meeting with Rory and the
    others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to be a
    racist because I was not in love with Tiger like so many
    others. Whatever. I should have given it more thought.
    carbon wins if Tiger breaks the record. I only win when
    carbon gives up. I pay when I lose - ask Annika1980 and
    Rev Leroy. And given my age, carbon could run out the
    clock.
    I don't recall Carbon calling you a racist...

    ...but you clearly are.

    Your standards for accusing athletes of inappropriate
    behaviour clearly changed with the colour of the athletes
    skin.

    Hilarious. You have called Pitts a racist before, years ago.
    .
    Yes. I've never claimed I didn't, so what point are you
    making, Dickhead?

    . At least you are admitting you have called Pitts a racist. So
    easy for those on the left to call others racist. Well, I did
    just a
    I don't call everyone racists...

    ...just the ones who are obviously racist.
    quick search on Pitts and his comments abou Tiger, I find
    NOTHING overtly racist. Yes, Ken had issues with his on course
    behavior, but it was not related to race. Ken NEVER brought race
    into the discussion and I bet if Tiger was white, his comments
    wouid be identical. Please show us SPECIFIC comments that would
    say that Ken is a racist, otherwise once again you lose
    credibility. This is getting to be an ongoing issue with you
    Grandpa.
    Except his complaints about behaviour by athletes were always
    about black athletes.

    Oh, and one more thing old man. Tom E made one comment about you
    appearance. You accused him of stalking you, after ONE comment.
    You
    Nope.
    have repeatedly called Ken a racist, is that not stalking. I
    mean
    No, it's not.

    It's replying in a forum to messages he posted.
    how many times do we need you to remind us. What a crybaby you
    are. One post about your appearance, you accuse another of
    stalking, yet
    Wrong.
    you can call others a racist over and over and that is not
    stalking?
    Because it isn't.
    Incredible, you really are to be pitied.

    How many times do you have to remind us that you think Pitts is a racist? Does it not get old and repetitive after a while, or is this
    How many times are you going to argue I'm not entitled to my opinion, Dickhead?
    something you "get off" on. You have said it so many times, you
    insult your audience, do you not think we get it after you repeat it over and over. What the hell is wrong with you?

    I think he is a sweet decent man. I have never met him, but do know
    That says everything right there.
    of one former RSG poster that has, and this person had nothing but
    good things to say about him. I heard he is beyond generous, and a
    fun guy to play golf with, married to a very beautiful woman and is
    a devoted family man. These are concepts foreign to you, you have no wife, no kids. Maybe you are just jealous, otherwise you would let
    this racism BS go already, it is way past old. And even if he WAS racist, what good does it do to accuse him over and over, and remind
    us over and over. We get it you clown, we got it a long time ago.
    You enjoy calling me "dickhead" keep at it, anything to help fill a
    void in your life and give you a sense of importance.
    I've met him.

    He's a jerk.
    Hilarious! You MET him. Do you KNOW him, as a person. So based on a meeting or two at some RSG golf outings, we are to take you at your word that he's a jerk. How about some specifics, what has he done to you or done to others to deserve such a blanket
    characterization. And again, how many times do we have to hear your negative characterizations of the guy, we got it a long time ago. So other than your alleged racism and throwing a club which he denies, what in your world makes the guy a jerk?. You put
    the statement out there, now you need to back it up. Otherwise, once again you are shown to be a really bored and bitter blowhard.

    Oh, and one more think Grandpa. You said "He's a jerk". That is in the present tense. When is the last time you saw him? How many years? Whatever preoccupation you have with him, you still have not let it go. Wow!

    I never attended any of those RSG events, but Ken did sponsor one if I recall, and they all had a great time. If I am not mistaken, he won an event or two, and everyone was happy for him and said nice things about him and his game, based on the posts.
    So it seems others think Ken is a pretty cool stand up guy, you just seem to have some issue with him. Care to elaborate or are you at a loss of words old man? You made a statement, that he is a jerk. Have the gonads to tell him and the rest of us what
    he has done to deserve this. That after all these years, he has made such a strong impression on you, that he is still regarded as a "jerk". We will be waiting for an explanation. Maybe we can all agree that you have wore us all out with this bitterness
    and stupidity and need to let it go. We are talking years and years ago, and you still disparage the guy. Wow, are you to be pitied!

    Amazing. I was around Baker at one RSG outing at Bellingham WA. A total of maybe five minutes. I will say that it was not my finest moment. I almost 3 putted on 18 to lose bets totaling more than I had on me. I would have had to seek an ATM and did not
    have a car with me. In frustration, I tossed my putter at my bag from about ten ft. Baker completely distorted what happened in this forum. Said I "helicoptered" the club and "put people in danger". I did not toss the putter toward any of my playing
    partners. And the people (including Baker) who were watching were probably 75 ft from me when I tossed the putter. This was almost 20 years ago and he has been personally attacking me ever since. I have no desire to interact with him again. That is why I
    am responding to you, Irving.

    Since Baker wants to assign what I am thinking without any basis, I will assign his thoughts to him. As is the case with so many on the left, you cannot criticize anyone who is a racial minority. If you do, you must be a racist. It is tiresome. These
    values have led to the rampant crime and mayhem we see in so many of our major cities. No bail? Yeah, right.

    You have stated you are in Texas. Where? I am in Fort Worth. Maybe we can put a game together.

    Regards
    Ken

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to KenPitts on Thu Sep 22 14:34:04 2022
    On 2022-09-22 14:25, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:15:21 PM UTC-5, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:43:51 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 12:41, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:19:43 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 11:55, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:50:50 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 14:31, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:33:58 PM UTC-4,
    Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 08:01, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM
    UTC-5, Irving S wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I
    really loved watching him play, he was amazing in
    his prime. But, he will never surpass the record
    of Jack, as far as majors won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma
    to his body. He is strictly ceremonial at this
    point. Sad, but true.

    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident
    occurred. I think he will only show up at majors
    from here on out. That is unless the regular tour
    event has some special significance for him. Two
    things - his showing at the Open Championship was a
    big indicator that his progress is limited. Also,
    did you see how badly he was limping when he showed
    up for that meeting with Rory and the others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to be
    a racist because I was not in love with Tiger like
    so many others. Whatever. I should have given it
    more thought. carbon wins if Tiger breaks the
    record. I only win when carbon gives up. I pay when
    I lose - ask Annika1980 and Rev Leroy. And given my
    age, carbon could run out the clock.
    I don't recall Carbon calling you a racist...

    ...but you clearly are.

    Your standards for accusing athletes of
    inappropriate behaviour clearly changed with the
    colour of the athletes skin.

    Hilarious. You have called Pitts a racist before, years
    ago. .
    Yes. I've never claimed I didn't, so what point are you
    making, Dickhead?

    . At least you are admitting you have called Pitts a
    racist. So easy for those on the left to call others
    racist. Well, I did just a
    I don't call everyone racists...

    ...just the ones who are obviously racist.
    quick search on Pitts and his comments abou Tiger, I find
    NOTHING overtly racist. Yes, Ken had issues with his on
    course behavior, but it was not related to race. Ken NEVER
    brought race into the discussion and I bet if Tiger was
    white, his comments wouid be identical. Please show us
    SPECIFIC comments that would say that Ken is a racist,
    otherwise once again you lose credibility. This is getting
    to be an ongoing issue with you Grandpa.
    Except his complaints about behaviour by athletes were
    always about black athletes.

    Oh, and one more thing old man. Tom E made one comment
    about you appearance. You accused him of stalking you,
    after ONE comment. You
    Nope.
    have repeatedly called Ken a racist, is that not stalking.
    I mean
    No, it's not.

    It's replying in a forum to messages he posted.
    how many times do we need you to remind us. What a crybaby
    you are. One post about your appearance, you accuse another
    of stalking, yet
    Wrong.
    you can call others a racist over and over and that is not
    stalking?
    Because it isn't.
    Incredible, you really are to be pitied.

    How many times do you have to remind us that you think Pitts is
    a racist? Does it not get old and repetitive after a while, or
    is this
    How many times are you going to argue I'm not entitled to my
    opinion, Dickhead?
    something you "get off" on. You have said it so many times,
    you insult your audience, do you not think we get it after you
    repeat it over and over. What the hell is wrong with you?

    I think he is a sweet decent man. I have never met him, but do
    know
    That says everything right there.
    of one former RSG poster that has, and this person had nothing
    but good things to say about him. I heard he is beyond
    generous, and a fun guy to play golf with, married to a very
    beautiful woman and is a devoted family man. These are concepts
    foreign to you, you have no wife, no kids. Maybe you are just
    jealous, otherwise you would let this racism BS go already, it
    is way past old. And even if he WAS racist, what good does it
    do to accuse him over and over, and remind us over and over. We
    get it you clown, we got it a long time ago. You enjoy calling
    me "dickhead" keep at it, anything to help fill a void in your
    life and give you a sense of importance.
    I've met him.

    He's a jerk.
    Hilarious! You MET him. Do you KNOW him, as a person. So based on a
    meeting or two at some RSG golf outings, we are to take you at your
    word that he's a jerk. How about some specifics, what has he done
    to you or done to others to deserve such a blanket
    characterization. And again, how many times do we have to hear your
    negative characterizations of the guy, we got it a long time ago.
    So other than your alleged racism and throwing a club which he
    denies, what in your world makes the guy a jerk?. You put the
    statement out there, now you need to back it up. Otherwise, once
    again you are shown to be a really bored and bitter blowhard.

    Oh, and one more think Grandpa. You said "He's a jerk". That is in
    the present tense. When is the last time you saw him? How many
    years? Whatever preoccupation you have with him, you still have not
    let it go. Wow!

    I never attended any of those RSG events, but Ken did sponsor one
    if I recall, and they all had a great time. If I am not mistaken,
    he won an event or two, and everyone was happy for him and said
    nice things about him and his game, based on the posts. So it seems
    others think Ken is a pretty cool stand up guy, you just seem to
    have some issue with him. Care to elaborate or are you at a loss of
    words old man? You made a statement, that he is a jerk. Have the
    gonads to tell him and the rest of us what he has done to deserve
    this. That after all these years, he has made such a strong
    impression on you, that he is still regarded as a "jerk". We will
    be waiting for an explanation. Maybe we can all agree that you have
    wore us all out with this bitterness and stupidity and need to let
    it go. We are talking years and years ago, and you still disparage
    the guy. Wow, are you to be pitied!

    Amazing. I was around Baker at one RSG outing at Bellingham WA. A
    total of maybe five minutes. I will say that it was not my finest
    moment. I almost 3 putted on 18 to lose bets totaling more than I had
    on me. I would have had to seek an ATM and did not have a car with
    me. In frustration, I tossed my putter at my bag from about ten ft.

    It was considerably more than ten feet.

    Baker completely distorted what happened in this forum. Said I
    "helicoptered" the club and "put people in danger". I did not toss

    That's a lie.

    I never said you had put people in danger. What I said was that I had
    seen people put in danger by similar throws.

    the putter toward any of my playing partners. And the people
    (including Baker) who were watching were probably 75 ft from me when
    I tossed the putter. This was almost 20 years ago and he has been
    personally attacking me ever since. I have no desire to interact with
    him again. That is why I am responding to you, Irving.

    I've attacked you for your lack of integrity, your lack of character and
    your obvious racism.


    Since Baker wants to assign what I am thinking without any basis, I
    will assign his thoughts to him. As is the case with so many on the
    left, you cannot criticize anyone who is a racial minority. If you
    do, you must be a racist. It is tiresome. These values have led to
    the rampant crime and mayhem we see in so many of our major cities.
    No bail? Yeah, right.

    You ONLY criticized athletes who were black, Ken.


    You have stated you are in Texas. Where? I am in Fort Worth. Maybe we
    can put a game together.
    "Lie down with dogs..."

    You two deserve each other.

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  • From KenPitts@21:1/5 to KenPitts on Thu Sep 22 14:37:37 2022
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 4:25:23 PM UTC-5, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:15:21 PM UTC-5, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:43:51 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 12:41, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:19:43 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 11:55, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:50:50 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 14:31, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:33:58 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 08:01, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM UTC-5,
    Irving S wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I
    really loved watching him play, he was amazing in his
    prime. But, he will never surpass the record of Jack,
    as far as majors won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma to
    his body. He is strictly ceremonial at this point. Sad, >>>>>>>> but true.

    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident occurred. >>>>>>> I think he will only show up at majors from here on out.
    That is unless the regular tour event has some special
    significance for him. Two things - his showing at the
    Open Championship was a big indicator that his progress
    is limited. Also, did you see how badly he was limping
    when he showed up for that meeting with Rory and the
    others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to be a
    racist because I was not in love with Tiger like so many
    others. Whatever. I should have given it more thought.
    carbon wins if Tiger breaks the record. I only win when
    carbon gives up. I pay when I lose - ask Annika1980 and
    Rev Leroy. And given my age, carbon could run out the
    clock.
    I don't recall Carbon calling you a racist...

    ...but you clearly are.

    Your standards for accusing athletes of inappropriate
    behaviour clearly changed with the colour of the athletes
    skin.

    Hilarious. You have called Pitts a racist before, years ago.
    .
    Yes. I've never claimed I didn't, so what point are you
    making, Dickhead?

    . At least you are admitting you have called Pitts a racist. So
    easy for those on the left to call others racist. Well, I did
    just a
    I don't call everyone racists...

    ...just the ones who are obviously racist.
    quick search on Pitts and his comments abou Tiger, I find
    NOTHING overtly racist. Yes, Ken had issues with his on course
    behavior, but it was not related to race. Ken NEVER brought race
    into the discussion and I bet if Tiger was white, his comments
    wouid be identical. Please show us SPECIFIC comments that would
    say that Ken is a racist, otherwise once again you lose
    credibility. This is getting to be an ongoing issue with you
    Grandpa.
    Except his complaints about behaviour by athletes were always
    about black athletes.

    Oh, and one more thing old man. Tom E made one comment about you
    appearance. You accused him of stalking you, after ONE comment.
    You
    Nope.
    have repeatedly called Ken a racist, is that not stalking. I
    mean
    No, it's not.

    It's replying in a forum to messages he posted.
    how many times do we need you to remind us. What a crybaby you
    are. One post about your appearance, you accuse another of
    stalking, yet
    Wrong.
    you can call others a racist over and over and that is not
    stalking?
    Because it isn't.
    Incredible, you really are to be pitied.

    How many times do you have to remind us that you think Pitts is a racist? Does it not get old and repetitive after a while, or is this
    How many times are you going to argue I'm not entitled to my opinion, Dickhead?
    something you "get off" on. You have said it so many times, you
    insult your audience, do you not think we get it after you repeat it over and over. What the hell is wrong with you?

    I think he is a sweet decent man. I have never met him, but do know
    That says everything right there.
    of one former RSG poster that has, and this person had nothing but good things to say about him. I heard he is beyond generous, and a
    fun guy to play golf with, married to a very beautiful woman and is
    a devoted family man. These are concepts foreign to you, you have no wife, no kids. Maybe you are just jealous, otherwise you would let this racism BS go already, it is way past old. And even if he WAS racist, what good does it do to accuse him over and over, and remind us over and over. We get it you clown, we got it a long time ago.
    You enjoy calling me "dickhead" keep at it, anything to help fill a void in your life and give you a sense of importance.
    I've met him.

    He's a jerk.
    Hilarious! You MET him. Do you KNOW him, as a person. So based on a meeting or two at some RSG golf outings, we are to take you at your word that he's a jerk. How about some specifics, what has he done to you or done to others to deserve such a
    blanket characterization. And again, how many times do we have to hear your negative characterizations of the guy, we got it a long time ago. So other than your alleged racism and throwing a club which he denies, what in your world makes the guy a jerk?.
    You put the statement out there, now you need to back it up. Otherwise, once again you are shown to be a really bored and bitter blowhard.

    Oh, and one more think Grandpa. You said "He's a jerk". That is in the present tense. When is the last time you saw him? How many years? Whatever preoccupation you have with him, you still have not let it go. Wow!

    I never attended any of those RSG events, but Ken did sponsor one if I recall, and they all had a great time. If I am not mistaken, he won an event or two, and everyone was happy for him and said nice things about him and his game, based on the posts.
    So it seems others think Ken is a pretty cool stand up guy, you just seem to have some issue with him. Care to elaborate or are you at a loss of words old man? You made a statement, that he is a jerk. Have the gonads to tell him and the rest of us what
    he has done to deserve this. That after all these years, he has made such a strong impression on you, that he is still regarded as a "jerk". We will be waiting for an explanation. Maybe we can all agree that you have wore us all out with this bitterness
    and stupidity and need to let it go. We are talking years and years ago, and you still disparage the guy. Wow, are you to be pitied!
    Amazing. I was around Baker at one RSG outing at Bellingham WA. A total of maybe five minutes. I will say that it was not my finest moment. I almost 3 putted on 18 to lose bets totaling more than I had on me. I would have had to seek an ATM and did not
    have a car with me. In frustration, I tossed my putter at my bag from about ten ft. Baker completely distorted what happened in this forum. Said I "helicoptered" the club and "put people in danger". I did not toss the putter toward any of my playing
    partners. And the people (including Baker) who were watching were probably 75 ft from me when I tossed the putter. This was almost 20 years ago and he has been personally attacking me ever since. I have no desire to interact with him again. That is why I
    am responding to you, Irving.

    Since Baker wants to assign what I am thinking without any basis, I will assign his thoughts to him. As is the case with so many on the left, you cannot criticize anyone who is a racial minority. If you do, you must be a racist. It is tiresome. These
    values have led to the rampant crime and mayhem we see in so many of our major cities. No bail? Yeah, right.

    You have stated you are in Texas. Where? I am in Fort Worth. Maybe we can put a game together.

    Regards
    Ken

    From a lady who has played more than one round of golf with me. Versus Baker who witnessed me do something he could not describe accurately and has engaged me in person no more than to ask me what my score was. It was 83.

    Teresa Williamson
    e-mail: go...@midsouth.rr.com
    roll call: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/williamsont.htm
    RSG FAQ: http://ttsoft.com/thor/rsggolf.html

    Well, since you wish to turn this into a logic issue.....
    My stance on his credibility relies on the fact that
    A.) During the rounds of golf I got to play with him and
    Randy Brown, they had their moments of inferior golf, and
    they also had their moments of exceptional golf. Now, when
    Ken pulls a driver shot on hole #10, hitting into the only
    water filled ditch on the whole course, did he mutter anything
    that would make his mother blush with embarassment?
    No.
    B.) On hole 16, when he left his par 3 tee shot a little bit wet, did he
    tear up the teeing ground because he hit the ball a little bit fat?
    No.
    C. ) Did he act like a two year old throwing a temper tantrum when a
    putt didn't break like he thought it would?
    No.
    D.) So does he live by what he believes in on and off the course, which
    is preserving the course in better shape than he found it?
    Yes. He was quite dilligent about diviots and pitch marks.
    E.) Was he courteous when showing a newbie to this wonderful game
    (me) a little tidbit about stance, gratis, after the round, to help
    me with my game, helping pave my way for enjoying the game
    a little bit better?
    Yes.
    F.) Was he a gracious runner up when Randy hit a big putt to win
    the contest they were participating in, or did he get angry that
    Randy won it and tell him to FAQ himself.
    No.

    Finally, since you seem to have missed it, I never said ONCE that
    Ken Pitts was the object of idolotry, or that he was to be put on
    a pedestal and held to a higher regard, living under a microscope,
    i.e Mr. Woods.
    What I said and I am quoting from my own post, dated 07/07/00
    5:15p, is that...

    I might not agree with what he says, or some of the things
    that he feels compelled to write about in this forum, or even
    some of the language he uses, but I will defend his right to
    say them.

    You may wish this to be a "machismo penis envy contest" in
    deciding that you don't like Mr. Pitts, but for those of us without

    a member, we have nothing to be envious of. If given the chance
    to play a round of golf with Ken again, I would be most appreciative
    of his golfing skills, and his knowledge of golf.

    Instead of slamming someone because they believe in something
    that you don't agree with, why not try and see life from their eyes
    and find out why they believe the way they do?
    Who knows? You might see things a little bit differently after
    seeing things their way. You might even like their company enough
    to become acquainted in a golf or other social setting.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Irving S on Thu Sep 22 14:53:58 2022
    On 2022-09-22 13:15, Irving S wrote:
    I've met him.

    He's a jerk.
    Hilarious! You MET him. Do you KNOW him, as a person. So based on

    Yup. I've actually met him.

    You SAY you "know of one former RSG poster" who's spoken well of him.

    a meeting or two at some RSG golf outings, we are to take you at your
    word that he's a jerk. How about some specifics, what has he done to
    you or done to others to deserve such a blanket characterization.

    His manner, his obvious racism.

    And again, how many times do we have to hear your negative
    characterizations of the guy, we got it a long time ago. So other
    than your alleged racism and throwing a club which he denies, what in

    He doesn't deny throwing the club.

    At least, he hasn't since someone else in this group contradicted his
    claim that he hadn't done so.

    your world makes the guy a jerk?. You put the statement out there,
    now you need to back it up. Otherwise, once again you are shown to
    be a really bored and bitter blowhard.

    So like all the statements you put out there and don't back up, Dickhead?


    Oh, and one more think Grandpa. You said "He's a jerk". That is in

    "thing".

    the present tense. When is the last time you saw him? How many
    years? Whatever preoccupation you have with him, you still have not
    let it go. Wow!

    You "thing" people change their personalities much in their 70s, Dickhead>


    I never attended any of those RSG events,

    Good.

    but Ken did sponsor one if
    I recall, and they all had a great time.

    Got a cite for that?

    If I am not mistaken, he
    won an event or two, and everyone was happy for him and said nice
    things about him and his game, based on the posts. So it seems

    Cites, Dickhead!

    others think Ken is a pretty cool stand up guy, you just seem to
    have some issue with him. Care to elaborate or are you at a loss of
    words old man? You made a statement, that he is a jerk. Have the

    He has no personal integrity.

    People got so tire of him talking trash about Tiger that they wouldn't
    talk to him anymore, so he solemnly promised not to talk about Tiger
    anymore.

    A promise he broke in a very short while.

    <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/lzYwFRsjGj4/m/lOgXU1bCoqUJ>

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to KenPitts on Thu Sep 22 15:02:00 2022
    On 2022-09-22 14:37, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 4:25:23 PM UTC-5, KenPitts wrote:

    Since Baker wants to assign what I am thinking without any basis, I
    will assign his thoughts to him. As is the case with so many on the
    left, you cannot criticize anyone who is a racial minority. If you
    do, you must be a racist. It is tiresome. These values have led to
    the rampant crime and mayhem we see in so many of our major cities.
    No bail? Yeah, right.

    You have stated you are in Texas. Where? I am in Fort Worth. Maybe
    we can put a game together.

    Regards Ken

    From a lady who has played more than one round of golf with me.
    Versus Baker who witnessed me do something he could not describe
    accurately and has engaged me in person no more than to ask me what
    my score was. It was 83.

    You really want to open up this can of worms, Ken?

    I'll leave you with what HH said last year:

    "Unfortunately, your contemporary actions have squandered whatever might
    have remained of that goodwill from 20 years ago. "

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  • From KenPitts@21:1/5 to Irving S on Thu Sep 22 15:44:09 2022
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:15:21 PM UTC-5, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:43:51 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 12:41, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:19:43 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 11:55, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:50:50 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 14:31, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:33:58 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 08:01, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM UTC-5,
    Irving S wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I
    really loved watching him play, he was amazing in his
    prime. But, he will never surpass the record of Jack,
    as far as majors won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma to
    his body. He is strictly ceremonial at this point. Sad,
    but true.

    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident occurred.
    I think he will only show up at majors from here on out.
    That is unless the regular tour event has some special
    significance for him. Two things - his showing at the
    Open Championship was a big indicator that his progress
    is limited. Also, did you see how badly he was limping
    when he showed up for that meeting with Rory and the
    others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to be a
    racist because I was not in love with Tiger like so many
    others. Whatever. I should have given it more thought.
    carbon wins if Tiger breaks the record. I only win when
    carbon gives up. I pay when I lose - ask Annika1980 and
    Rev Leroy. And given my age, carbon could run out the
    clock.
    I don't recall Carbon calling you a racist...

    ...but you clearly are.

    Your standards for accusing athletes of inappropriate
    behaviour clearly changed with the colour of the athletes
    skin.

    Hilarious. You have called Pitts a racist before, years ago.
    .
    Yes. I've never claimed I didn't, so what point are you
    making, Dickhead?

    . At least you are admitting you have called Pitts a racist. So
    easy for those on the left to call others racist. Well, I did
    just a
    I don't call everyone racists...

    ...just the ones who are obviously racist.
    quick search on Pitts and his comments abou Tiger, I find
    NOTHING overtly racist. Yes, Ken had issues with his on course
    behavior, but it was not related to race. Ken NEVER brought race
    into the discussion and I bet if Tiger was white, his comments
    wouid be identical. Please show us SPECIFIC comments that would
    say that Ken is a racist, otherwise once again you lose
    credibility. This is getting to be an ongoing issue with you
    Grandpa.
    Except his complaints about behaviour by athletes were always
    about black athletes.

    Oh, and one more thing old man. Tom E made one comment about you
    appearance. You accused him of stalking you, after ONE comment.
    You
    Nope.
    have repeatedly called Ken a racist, is that not stalking. I
    mean
    No, it's not.

    It's replying in a forum to messages he posted.
    how many times do we need you to remind us. What a crybaby you
    are. One post about your appearance, you accuse another of
    stalking, yet
    Wrong.
    you can call others a racist over and over and that is not
    stalking?
    Because it isn't.
    Incredible, you really are to be pitied.

    How many times do you have to remind us that you think Pitts is a racist? Does it not get old and repetitive after a while, or is this
    How many times are you going to argue I'm not entitled to my opinion, Dickhead?
    something you "get off" on. You have said it so many times, you
    insult your audience, do you not think we get it after you repeat it over and over. What the hell is wrong with you?

    I think he is a sweet decent man. I have never met him, but do know
    That says everything right there.
    of one former RSG poster that has, and this person had nothing but
    good things to say about him. I heard he is beyond generous, and a
    fun guy to play golf with, married to a very beautiful woman and is
    a devoted family man. These are concepts foreign to you, you have no wife, no kids. Maybe you are just jealous, otherwise you would let
    this racism BS go already, it is way past old. And even if he WAS racist, what good does it do to accuse him over and over, and remind
    us over and over. We get it you clown, we got it a long time ago.
    You enjoy calling me "dickhead" keep at it, anything to help fill a
    void in your life and give you a sense of importance.
    I've met him.

    He's a jerk.
    Hilarious! You MET him. Do you KNOW him, as a person. So based on a meeting or two at some RSG golf outings, we are to take you at your word that he's a jerk. How about some specifics, what has he done to you or done to others to deserve such a blanket
    characterization. And again, how many times do we have to hear your negative characterizations of the guy, we got it a long time ago. So other than your alleged racism and throwing a club which he denies, what in your world makes the guy a jerk?. You put
    the statement out there, now you need to back it up. Otherwise, once again you are shown to be a really bored and bitter blowhard.

    Oh, and one more think Grandpa. You said "He's a jerk". That is in the present tense. When is the last time you saw him? How many years? Whatever preoccupation you have with him, you still have not let it go. Wow!

    I never attended any of those RSG events, but Ken did sponsor one if I recall, and they all had a great time. If I am not mistaken, he won an event or two, and everyone was happy for him and said nice things about him and his game, based on the posts.
    So it seems others think Ken is a pretty cool stand up guy, you just seem to have some issue with him. Care to elaborate or are you at a loss of words old man? You made a statement, that he is a jerk. Have the gonads to tell him and the rest of us what
    he has done to deserve this. That after all these years, he has made such a strong impression on you, that he is still regarded as a "jerk". We will be waiting for an explanation. Maybe we can all agree that you have wore us all out with this bitterness
    and stupidity and need to let it go. We are talking years and years ago, and you still disparage the guy. Wow, are you to be pitied!

    Irving, you can get my email address by responding to one of my posts. Drop me a line and we can discuss possibly playing.

    I would say, there are some in RSG with whom I have been friendly who have reversed course about me. Rev Leroy had me as his guest at Colonial and I had him as a guest at my club, Woodhaven. Then he decided I was a bad person and he contacted the CIO
    where I was working to complain about me and my activities here. That ultimately led to me being terminated. Early example of cancel culture. Thanks a lot.

    Bobby Knight had me as his guest at Denton Country Club. Then we got into it over Eric Clapton, of all things. Bobby had a history in the music business in LA, maybe even part of the legendary Wrecking Crew. He had assigned Clapton to being nothing but a
    psychedelic rocker. Hard to imagine since Clapton won a Grammy for the album Unplugged. Bobby knew that but would not relent. We have not spoken since.

    Randy Brown and I had our moments but those seemed to be resolved during the two RSG Atlanta events. But, during the Iraq war his son enlisted in the military. As a veteran, I wished the son well and that he would serve with honor and distinction. Randy
    replied that he hated me. Guess he was not on board with the enlistment.

    Chris Bellomy and I rode together to the first RSG event I played in. RSG Texas in Glenrose. He was the first RSG person I ever met. Later on I made a statement that leftists who were causing trouble deserved to be baton whipped by the police. Somehow he
    decided that I was saying he should be whipped. Never did. But, he pointed that out, he blocked me on Facebook and we have never spoken since. He was even a member of my club for a while.

    As with Baker, I have had misunderstandings in this forum. Some causing me more than a little grief. Question, have you ever seen anyone side with Baker or say anything nice about him? I have not. Not even the anonymous trolls like Felicia. You have it
    right. Sad, bitter and lonely. Strokes from him are always hateful, especially for me.

    Ken

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to KenPitts on Thu Sep 22 15:56:06 2022
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 6:44:10 PM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:15:21 PM UTC-5, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:43:51 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 12:41, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:19:43 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 11:55, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:50:50 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 14:31, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:33:58 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 08:01, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM UTC-5,
    Irving S wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I
    really loved watching him play, he was amazing in his
    prime. But, he will never surpass the record of Jack,
    as far as majors won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma to
    his body. He is strictly ceremonial at this point. Sad, >>>>>>>> but true.

    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident occurred. >>>>>>> I think he will only show up at majors from here on out.
    That is unless the regular tour event has some special
    significance for him. Two things - his showing at the
    Open Championship was a big indicator that his progress
    is limited. Also, did you see how badly he was limping
    when he showed up for that meeting with Rory and the
    others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to be a
    racist because I was not in love with Tiger like so many
    others. Whatever. I should have given it more thought.
    carbon wins if Tiger breaks the record. I only win when
    carbon gives up. I pay when I lose - ask Annika1980 and
    Rev Leroy. And given my age, carbon could run out the
    clock.
    I don't recall Carbon calling you a racist...

    ...but you clearly are.

    Your standards for accusing athletes of inappropriate
    behaviour clearly changed with the colour of the athletes
    skin.

    Hilarious. You have called Pitts a racist before, years ago.
    .
    Yes. I've never claimed I didn't, so what point are you
    making, Dickhead?

    . At least you are admitting you have called Pitts a racist. So
    easy for those on the left to call others racist. Well, I did
    just a
    I don't call everyone racists...

    ...just the ones who are obviously racist.
    quick search on Pitts and his comments abou Tiger, I find
    NOTHING overtly racist. Yes, Ken had issues with his on course
    behavior, but it was not related to race. Ken NEVER brought race
    into the discussion and I bet if Tiger was white, his comments
    wouid be identical. Please show us SPECIFIC comments that would
    say that Ken is a racist, otherwise once again you lose
    credibility. This is getting to be an ongoing issue with you
    Grandpa.
    Except his complaints about behaviour by athletes were always
    about black athletes.

    Oh, and one more thing old man. Tom E made one comment about you
    appearance. You accused him of stalking you, after ONE comment.
    You
    Nope.
    have repeatedly called Ken a racist, is that not stalking. I
    mean
    No, it's not.

    It's replying in a forum to messages he posted.
    how many times do we need you to remind us. What a crybaby you
    are. One post about your appearance, you accuse another of
    stalking, yet
    Wrong.
    you can call others a racist over and over and that is not
    stalking?
    Because it isn't.
    Incredible, you really are to be pitied.

    How many times do you have to remind us that you think Pitts is a racist? Does it not get old and repetitive after a while, or is this
    How many times are you going to argue I'm not entitled to my opinion, Dickhead?
    something you "get off" on. You have said it so many times, you
    insult your audience, do you not think we get it after you repeat it over and over. What the hell is wrong with you?

    I think he is a sweet decent man. I have never met him, but do know
    That says everything right there.
    of one former RSG poster that has, and this person had nothing but good things to say about him. I heard he is beyond generous, and a
    fun guy to play golf with, married to a very beautiful woman and is
    a devoted family man. These are concepts foreign to you, you have no wife, no kids. Maybe you are just jealous, otherwise you would let this racism BS go already, it is way past old. And even if he WAS racist, what good does it do to accuse him over and over, and remind us over and over. We get it you clown, we got it a long time ago.
    You enjoy calling me "dickhead" keep at it, anything to help fill a void in your life and give you a sense of importance.
    I've met him.

    He's a jerk.
    Hilarious! You MET him. Do you KNOW him, as a person. So based on a meeting or two at some RSG golf outings, we are to take you at your word that he's a jerk. How about some specifics, what has he done to you or done to others to deserve such a
    blanket characterization. And again, how many times do we have to hear your negative characterizations of the guy, we got it a long time ago. So other than your alleged racism and throwing a club which he denies, what in your world makes the guy a jerk?.
    You put the statement out there, now you need to back it up. Otherwise, once again you are shown to be a really bored and bitter blowhard.

    Oh, and one more think Grandpa. You said "He's a jerk". That is in the present tense. When is the last time you saw him? How many years? Whatever preoccupation you have with him, you still have not let it go. Wow!

    I never attended any of those RSG events, but Ken did sponsor one if I recall, and they all had a great time. If I am not mistaken, he won an event or two, and everyone was happy for him and said nice things about him and his game, based on the posts.
    So it seems others think Ken is a pretty cool stand up guy, you just seem to have some issue with him. Care to elaborate or are you at a loss of words old man? You made a statement, that he is a jerk. Have the gonads to tell him and the rest of us what
    he has done to deserve this. That after all these years, he has made such a strong impression on you, that he is still regarded as a "jerk". We will be waiting for an explanation. Maybe we can all agree that you have wore us all out with this bitterness
    and stupidity and need to let it go. We are talking years and years ago, and you still disparage the guy. Wow, are you to be pitied!

    Irving, you can get my email address by responding to one of my posts. Drop me a line and we can discuss possibly playing.

    I would say, there are some in RSG with whom I have been friendly who have reversed course about me. Rev Leroy had me as his guest at Colonial and I had him as a guest at my club, Woodhaven. Then he decided I was a bad person and he contacted the CIO
    where I was working to complain about me and my activities here. That ultimately led to me being terminated. Early example of cancel culture. Thanks a lot.

    Bobby Knight had me as his guest at Denton Country Club. Then we got into it over Eric Clapton, of all things. Bobby had a history in the music business in LA, maybe even part of the legendary Wrecking Crew. He had assigned Clapton to being nothing but
    a psychedelic rocker. Hard to imagine since Clapton won a Grammy for the album Unplugged. Bobby knew that but would not relent. We have not spoken since.

    Randy Brown and I had our moments but those seemed to be resolved during the two RSG Atlanta events. But, during the Iraq war his son enlisted in the military. As a veteran, I wished the son well and that he would serve with honor and distinction.
    Randy replied that he hated me. Guess he was not on board with the enlistment.

    Chris Bellomy and I rode together to the first RSG event I played in. RSG Texas in Glenrose. He was the first RSG person I ever met. Later on I made a statement that leftists who were causing trouble deserved to be baton whipped by the police. Somehow
    he decided that I was saying he should be whipped. Never did. But, he pointed that out, he blocked me on Facebook and we have never spoken since. He was even a member of my club for a while.

    As with Baker, I have had misunderstandings in this forum. Some causing me more than a little grief. Question, have you ever seen anyone side with Baker or say anything nice about him? I have not. Not even the anonymous trolls like Felicia. You have it
    right. Sad, bitter and lonely. Strokes from him are always hateful, especially for me.

    Ken

    Gosh, having five examples of people who changed their mind about you? Problem is no context. How does this statistic compare to how many RSG members who you’ve personally met & are still friendly with you? FYI, we could count “total met”, but would then have to subtract out the Ghosting, since that’s a thing too.


    -hh

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  • From KenPitts@21:1/5 to -hh on Thu Sep 22 16:07:37 2022
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 5:56:07 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 6:44:10 PM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:15:21 PM UTC-5, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:43:51 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 12:41, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:19:43 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 11:55, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:50:50 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 14:31, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:33:58 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 08:01, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM UTC-5,
    Irving S wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I
    really loved watching him play, he was amazing in his >>>>>>>> prime. But, he will never surpass the record of Jack, >>>>>>>> as far as majors won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma to
    his body. He is strictly ceremonial at this point. Sad, >>>>>>>> but true.

    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident occurred. >>>>>>> I think he will only show up at majors from here on out. >>>>>>> That is unless the regular tour event has some special
    significance for him. Two things - his showing at the
    Open Championship was a big indicator that his progress >>>>>>> is limited. Also, did you see how badly he was limping
    when he showed up for that meeting with Rory and the
    others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to be a
    racist because I was not in love with Tiger like so many >>>>>>> others. Whatever. I should have given it more thought.
    carbon wins if Tiger breaks the record. I only win when >>>>>>> carbon gives up. I pay when I lose - ask Annika1980 and >>>>>>> Rev Leroy. And given my age, carbon could run out the
    clock.
    I don't recall Carbon calling you a racist...

    ...but you clearly are.

    Your standards for accusing athletes of inappropriate
    behaviour clearly changed with the colour of the athletes >>>>>> skin.

    Hilarious. You have called Pitts a racist before, years ago. >>>>> .
    Yes. I've never claimed I didn't, so what point are you
    making, Dickhead?

    . At least you are admitting you have called Pitts a racist. So >>> easy for those on the left to call others racist. Well, I did
    just a
    I don't call everyone racists...

    ...just the ones who are obviously racist.
    quick search on Pitts and his comments abou Tiger, I find
    NOTHING overtly racist. Yes, Ken had issues with his on course
    behavior, but it was not related to race. Ken NEVER brought race >>> into the discussion and I bet if Tiger was white, his comments
    wouid be identical. Please show us SPECIFIC comments that would >>> say that Ken is a racist, otherwise once again you lose
    credibility. This is getting to be an ongoing issue with you
    Grandpa.
    Except his complaints about behaviour by athletes were always
    about black athletes.

    Oh, and one more thing old man. Tom E made one comment about you >>> appearance. You accused him of stalking you, after ONE comment. >>> You
    Nope.
    have repeatedly called Ken a racist, is that not stalking. I
    mean
    No, it's not.

    It's replying in a forum to messages he posted.
    how many times do we need you to remind us. What a crybaby you
    are. One post about your appearance, you accuse another of
    stalking, yet
    Wrong.
    you can call others a racist over and over and that is not
    stalking?
    Because it isn't.
    Incredible, you really are to be pitied.

    How many times do you have to remind us that you think Pitts is a racist? Does it not get old and repetitive after a while, or is this
    How many times are you going to argue I'm not entitled to my opinion, Dickhead?
    something you "get off" on. You have said it so many times, you insult your audience, do you not think we get it after you repeat it over and over. What the hell is wrong with you?

    I think he is a sweet decent man. I have never met him, but do know
    That says everything right there.
    of one former RSG poster that has, and this person had nothing but good things to say about him. I heard he is beyond generous, and a fun guy to play golf with, married to a very beautiful woman and is a devoted family man. These are concepts foreign to you, you have no wife, no kids. Maybe you are just jealous, otherwise you would let this racism BS go already, it is way past old. And even if he WAS racist, what good does it do to accuse him over and over, and remind us over and over. We get it you clown, we got it a long time ago. You enjoy calling me "dickhead" keep at it, anything to help fill a void in your life and give you a sense of importance.
    I've met him.

    He's a jerk.
    Hilarious! You MET him. Do you KNOW him, as a person. So based on a meeting or two at some RSG golf outings, we are to take you at your word that he's a jerk. How about some specifics, what has he done to you or done to others to deserve such a
    blanket characterization. And again, how many times do we have to hear your negative characterizations of the guy, we got it a long time ago. So other than your alleged racism and throwing a club which he denies, what in your world makes the guy a jerk?.
    You put the statement out there, now you need to back it up. Otherwise, once again you are shown to be a really bored and bitter blowhard.

    Oh, and one more think Grandpa. You said "He's a jerk". That is in the present tense. When is the last time you saw him? How many years? Whatever preoccupation you have with him, you still have not let it go. Wow!

    I never attended any of those RSG events, but Ken did sponsor one if I recall, and they all had a great time. If I am not mistaken, he won an event or two, and everyone was happy for him and said nice things about him and his game, based on the
    posts. So it seems others think Ken is a pretty cool stand up guy, you just seem to have some issue with him. Care to elaborate or are you at a loss of words old man? You made a statement, that he is a jerk. Have the gonads to tell him and the rest of us
    what he has done to deserve this. That after all these years, he has made such a strong impression on you, that he is still regarded as a "jerk". We will be waiting for an explanation. Maybe we can all agree that you have wore us all out with this
    bitterness and stupidity and need to let it go. We are talking years and years ago, and you still disparage the guy. Wow, are you to be pitied!

    Irving, you can get my email address by responding to one of my posts. Drop me a line and we can discuss possibly playing.

    I would say, there are some in RSG with whom I have been friendly who have reversed course about me. Rev Leroy had me as his guest at Colonial and I had him as a guest at my club, Woodhaven. Then he decided I was a bad person and he contacted the CIO
    where I was working to complain about me and my activities here. That ultimately led to me being terminated. Early example of cancel culture. Thanks a lot.

    Bobby Knight had me as his guest at Denton Country Club. Then we got into it over Eric Clapton, of all things. Bobby had a history in the music business in LA, maybe even part of the legendary Wrecking Crew. He had assigned Clapton to being nothing
    but a psychedelic rocker. Hard to imagine since Clapton won a Grammy for the album Unplugged. Bobby knew that but would not relent. We have not spoken since.

    Randy Brown and I had our moments but those seemed to be resolved during the two RSG Atlanta events. But, during the Iraq war his son enlisted in the military. As a veteran, I wished the son well and that he would serve with honor and distinction.
    Randy replied that he hated me. Guess he was not on board with the enlistment.

    Chris Bellomy and I rode together to the first RSG event I played in. RSG Texas in Glenrose. He was the first RSG person I ever met. Later on I made a statement that leftists who were causing trouble deserved to be baton whipped by the police.
    Somehow he decided that I was saying he should be whipped. Never did. But, he pointed that out, he blocked me on Facebook and we have never spoken since. He was even a member of my club for a while.

    As with Baker, I have had misunderstandings in this forum. Some causing me more than a little grief. Question, have you ever seen anyone side with Baker or say anything nice about him? I have not. Not even the anonymous trolls like Felicia. You have
    it right. Sad, bitter and lonely. Strokes from him are always hateful, especially for me.

    Ken
    Gosh, having five examples of people who changed their mind about you? Problem is no context. How does this statistic compare to how many RSG members who you’ve personally met & are still friendly with you? FYI, we could count “total met”, but would then have to subtract out the Ghosting,
    since that’s a thing too.


    -hh

    I will freely admit I have not been perfect around here. But, do I deserve having Baker hung around my neck? According to him there is not a single good thing about me. Nothing. I have to keep reminding myself he is just a psycho.

    Ken

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to KenPitts on Thu Sep 22 16:30:26 2022
    On 2022-09-22 15:44, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:15:21 PM UTC-5, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:43:51 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 12:41, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:19:43 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 11:55, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:50:50 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 14:31, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:33:58 PM UTC-4,
    Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 08:01, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM
    UTC-5, Irving S wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I
    really loved watching him play, he was amazing in
    his prime. But, he will never surpass the record
    of Jack, as far as majors won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma
    to his body. He is strictly ceremonial at this
    point. Sad, but true.

    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident
    occurred. I think he will only show up at majors
    from here on out. That is unless the regular tour
    event has some special significance for him. Two
    things - his showing at the Open Championship was a
    big indicator that his progress is limited. Also,
    did you see how badly he was limping when he showed
    up for that meeting with Rory and the others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to be
    a racist because I was not in love with Tiger like
    so many others. Whatever. I should have given it
    more thought. carbon wins if Tiger breaks the
    record. I only win when carbon gives up. I pay when
    I lose - ask Annika1980 and Rev Leroy. And given my
    age, carbon could run out the clock.
    I don't recall Carbon calling you a racist...

    ...but you clearly are.

    Your standards for accusing athletes of
    inappropriate behaviour clearly changed with the
    colour of the athletes skin.

    Hilarious. You have called Pitts a racist before, years
    ago. .
    Yes. I've never claimed I didn't, so what point are you
    making, Dickhead?

    . At least you are admitting you have called Pitts a
    racist. So easy for those on the left to call others
    racist. Well, I did just a
    I don't call everyone racists...

    ...just the ones who are obviously racist.
    quick search on Pitts and his comments abou Tiger, I find
    NOTHING overtly racist. Yes, Ken had issues with his on
    course behavior, but it was not related to race. Ken NEVER
    brought race into the discussion and I bet if Tiger was
    white, his comments wouid be identical. Please show us
    SPECIFIC comments that would say that Ken is a racist,
    otherwise once again you lose credibility. This is getting
    to be an ongoing issue with you Grandpa.
    Except his complaints about behaviour by athletes were
    always about black athletes.

    Oh, and one more thing old man. Tom E made one comment
    about you appearance. You accused him of stalking you,
    after ONE comment. You
    Nope.
    have repeatedly called Ken a racist, is that not stalking.
    I mean
    No, it's not.

    It's replying in a forum to messages he posted.
    how many times do we need you to remind us. What a crybaby
    you are. One post about your appearance, you accuse another
    of stalking, yet
    Wrong.
    you can call others a racist over and over and that is not
    stalking?
    Because it isn't.
    Incredible, you really are to be pitied.

    How many times do you have to remind us that you think Pitts is
    a racist? Does it not get old and repetitive after a while, or
    is this
    How many times are you going to argue I'm not entitled to my
    opinion, Dickhead?
    something you "get off" on. You have said it so many times,
    you insult your audience, do you not think we get it after you
    repeat it over and over. What the hell is wrong with you?

    I think he is a sweet decent man. I have never met him, but do
    know
    That says everything right there.
    of one former RSG poster that has, and this person had nothing
    but good things to say about him. I heard he is beyond
    generous, and a fun guy to play golf with, married to a very
    beautiful woman and is a devoted family man. These are concepts
    foreign to you, you have no wife, no kids. Maybe you are just
    jealous, otherwise you would let this racism BS go already, it
    is way past old. And even if he WAS racist, what good does it
    do to accuse him over and over, and remind us over and over. We
    get it you clown, we got it a long time ago. You enjoy calling
    me "dickhead" keep at it, anything to help fill a void in your
    life and give you a sense of importance.
    I've met him.

    He's a jerk.
    Hilarious! You MET him. Do you KNOW him, as a person. So based on a
    meeting or two at some RSG golf outings, we are to take you at your
    word that he's a jerk. How about some specifics, what has he done
    to you or done to others to deserve such a blanket
    characterization. And again, how many times do we have to hear your
    negative characterizations of the guy, we got it a long time ago.
    So other than your alleged racism and throwing a club which he
    denies, what in your world makes the guy a jerk?. You put the
    statement out there, now you need to back it up. Otherwise, once
    again you are shown to be a really bored and bitter blowhard.

    Oh, and one more think Grandpa. You said "He's a jerk". That is in
    the present tense. When is the last time you saw him? How many
    years? Whatever preoccupation you have with him, you still have not
    let it go. Wow!

    I never attended any of those RSG events, but Ken did sponsor one
    if I recall, and they all had a great time. If I am not mistaken,
    he won an event or two, and everyone was happy for him and said
    nice things about him and his game, based on the posts. So it seems
    others think Ken is a pretty cool stand up guy, you just seem to
    have some issue with him. Care to elaborate or are you at a loss of
    words old man? You made a statement, that he is a jerk. Have the
    gonads to tell him and the rest of us what he has done to deserve
    this. That after all these years, he has made such a strong
    impression on you, that he is still regarded as a "jerk". We will
    be waiting for an explanation. Maybe we can all agree that you have
    wore us all out with this bitterness and stupidity and need to let
    it go. We are talking years and years ago, and you still disparage
    the guy. Wow, are you to be pitied!

    Irving, you can get my email address by responding to one of my
    posts. Drop me a line and we can discuss possibly playing.

    I would say, there are some in RSG with whom I have been friendly who
    have reversed course about me. Rev Leroy had me as his guest at
    Colonial and I had him as a guest at my club, Woodhaven. Then he
    decided I was a bad person and he contacted the CIO where I was
    working to complain about me and my activities here. That ultimately
    led to me being terminated. Early example of cancel culture. Thanks a
    lot.

    Which leads an intelligent person to ask:

    Just what the hell might you have done that made him WANT to do that?


    Bobby Knight had me as his guest at Denton Country Club. Then we got
    into it over Eric Clapton, of all things. Bobby had a history in the
    music business in LA, maybe even part of the legendary Wrecking Crew.
    He had assigned Clapton to being nothing but a psychedelic rocker.
    Hard to imagine since Clapton won a Grammy for the album Unplugged.
    Bobby knew that but would not relent. We have not spoken since.

    Riiiiiiight.

    Nothing is ever your fault, right?


    Randy Brown and I had our moments but those seemed to be resolved
    during the two RSG Atlanta events. But, during the Iraq war his son
    enlisted in the military. As a veteran, I wished the son well and
    that he would serve with honor and distinction. Randy replied that he
    hated me. Guess he was not on board with the enlistment.

    Again, I'm betting you're leaving out HUGE parts of the story.


    Chris Bellomy and I rode together to the first RSG event I played in.
    RSG Texas in Glenrose. He was the first RSG person I ever met. Later
    on I made a statement that leftists who were causing trouble deserved
    to be baton whipped by the police. Somehow he decided that I was
    saying he should be whipped. Never did. But, he pointed that out, he
    blocked me on Facebook and we have never spoken since. He was even a
    member of my club for a while.

    Because there is absolutely nothing wrong with suggesting that people
    deserve to be baton whipped...

    What's staggering is that you say it again without the least shame.


    As with Baker, I have had misunderstandings in this forum. Some

    You leave out all the details.

    You've show yourself to be a person without integrity.

    I learned it slowly over the course of a lot of time.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to KenPitts on Thu Sep 22 16:31:40 2022
    On 2022-09-22 16:07, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 5:56:07 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 6:44:10 PM UTC-4, KenPitts
    wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:15:21 PM UTC-5, Irving S
    wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:43:51 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 12:41, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:19:43 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 11:55, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:50:50 PM UTC-4,
    Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 14:31, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:33:58 PM
    UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 08:01, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM
    UTC-5, Irving S wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad,
    because I really loved watching him play, he
    was amazing in his prime. But, he will never
    surpass the record of Jack, as far as majors
    won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much
    trauma to his body. He is strictly ceremonial
    at this point. Sad, but true.

    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident
    occurred. I think he will only show up at
    majors from here on out. That is unless the
    regular tour event has some special
    significance for him. Two things - his showing
    at the Open Championship was a big indicator
    that his progress is limited. Also, did you see
    how badly he was limping when he showed up for
    that meeting with Rory and the others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to
    be a racist because I was not in love with
    Tiger like so many others. Whatever. I should
    have given it more thought. carbon wins if
    Tiger breaks the record. I only win when carbon
    gives up. I pay when I lose - ask Annika1980
    and Rev Leroy. And given my age, carbon could
    run out the clock.
    I don't recall Carbon calling you a racist...

    ...but you clearly are.

    Your standards for accusing athletes of
    inappropriate behaviour clearly changed with the
    colour of the athletes skin.

    Hilarious. You have called Pitts a racist before,
    years ago. .
    Yes. I've never claimed I didn't, so what point are
    you making, Dickhead?

    . At least you are admitting you have called Pitts a
    racist. So easy for those on the left to call others
    racist. Well, I did just a
    I don't call everyone racists...

    ...just the ones who are obviously racist.
    quick search on Pitts and his comments abou Tiger, I
    find NOTHING overtly racist. Yes, Ken had issues with
    his on course behavior, but it was not related to race.
    Ken NEVER brought race into the discussion and I bet if
    Tiger was white, his comments wouid be identical.
    Please show us SPECIFIC comments that would say that
    Ken is a racist, otherwise once again you lose
    credibility. This is getting to be an ongoing issue
    with you Grandpa.
    Except his complaints about behaviour by athletes were
    always about black athletes.

    Oh, and one more thing old man. Tom E made one comment
    about you appearance. You accused him of stalking you,
    after ONE comment. You
    Nope.
    have repeatedly called Ken a racist, is that not
    stalking. I mean
    No, it's not.

    It's replying in a forum to messages he posted.
    how many times do we need you to remind us. What a
    crybaby you are. One post about your appearance, you
    accuse another of stalking, yet
    Wrong.
    you can call others a racist over and over and that is
    not stalking?
    Because it isn't.
    Incredible, you really are to be pitied.

    How many times do you have to remind us that you think
    Pitts is a racist? Does it not get old and repetitive after
    a while, or is this
    How many times are you going to argue I'm not entitled to my
    opinion, Dickhead?
    something you "get off" on. You have said it so many times,
    you insult your audience, do you not think we get it after
    you repeat it over and over. What the hell is wrong with
    you?

    I think he is a sweet decent man. I have never met him, but
    do know
    That says everything right there.
    of one former RSG poster that has, and this person had
    nothing but good things to say about him. I heard he is
    beyond generous, and a fun guy to play golf with, married
    to a very beautiful woman and is a devoted family man.
    These are concepts foreign to you, you have no wife, no
    kids. Maybe you are just jealous, otherwise you would let
    this racism BS go already, it is way past old. And even if
    he WAS racist, what good does it do to accuse him over and
    over, and remind us over and over. We get it you clown, we
    got it a long time ago. You enjoy calling me "dickhead"
    keep at it, anything to help fill a void in your life and
    give you a sense of importance.
    I've met him.

    He's a jerk.
    Hilarious! You MET him. Do you KNOW him, as a person. So based
    on a meeting or two at some RSG golf outings, we are to take
    you at your word that he's a jerk. How about some specifics,
    what has he done to you or done to others to deserve such a
    blanket characterization. And again, how many times do we have
    to hear your negative characterizations of the guy, we got it a
    long time ago. So other than your alleged racism and throwing a
    club which he denies, what in your world makes the guy a jerk?.
    You put the statement out there, now you need to back it up.
    Otherwise, once again you are shown to be a really bored and
    bitter blowhard.

    Oh, and one more think Grandpa. You said "He's a jerk". That is
    in the present tense. When is the last time you saw him? How
    many years? Whatever preoccupation you have with him, you still
    have not let it go. Wow!

    I never attended any of those RSG events, but Ken did sponsor
    one if I recall, and they all had a great time. If I am not
    mistaken, he won an event or two, and everyone was happy for
    him and said nice things about him and his game, based on the
    posts. So it seems others think Ken is a pretty cool stand up
    guy, you just seem to have some issue with him. Care to
    elaborate or are you at a loss of words old man? You made a
    statement, that he is a jerk. Have the gonads to tell him and
    the rest of us what he has done to deserve this. That after all
    these years, he has made such a strong impression on you, that
    he is still regarded as a "jerk". We will be waiting for an
    explanation. Maybe we can all agree that you have wore us all
    out with this bitterness and stupidity and need to let it go.
    We are talking years and years ago, and you still disparage the
    guy. Wow, are you to be pitied!

    Irving, you can get my email address by responding to one of my
    posts. Drop me a line and we can discuss possibly playing.

    I would say, there are some in RSG with whom I have been friendly
    who have reversed course about me. Rev Leroy had me as his guest
    at Colonial and I had him as a guest at my club, Woodhaven. Then
    he decided I was a bad person and he contacted the CIO where I
    was working to complain about me and my activities here. That
    ultimately led to me being terminated. Early example of cancel
    culture. Thanks a lot.

    Bobby Knight had me as his guest at Denton Country Club. Then we
    got into it over Eric Clapton, of all things. Bobby had a history
    in the music business in LA, maybe even part of the legendary
    Wrecking Crew. He had assigned Clapton to being nothing but a
    psychedelic rocker. Hard to imagine since Clapton won a Grammy
    for the album Unplugged. Bobby knew that but would not relent. We
    have not spoken since.

    Randy Brown and I had our moments but those seemed to be resolved
    during the two RSG Atlanta events. But, during the Iraq war his
    son enlisted in the military. As a veteran, I wished the son well
    and that he would serve with honor and distinction. Randy replied
    that he hated me. Guess he was not on board with the enlistment.

    Chris Bellomy and I rode together to the first RSG event I played
    in. RSG Texas in Glenrose. He was the first RSG person I ever
    met. Later on I made a statement that leftists who were causing
    trouble deserved to be baton whipped by the police. Somehow he
    decided that I was saying he should be whipped. Never did. But,
    he pointed that out, he blocked me on Facebook and we have never
    spoken since. He was even a member of my club for a while.

    As with Baker, I have had misunderstandings in this forum. Some
    causing me more than a little grief. Question, have you ever seen
    anyone side with Baker or say anything nice about him? I have
    not. Not even the anonymous trolls like Felicia. You have it
    right. Sad, bitter and lonely. Strokes from him are always
    hateful, especially for me.

    Ken
    Gosh, having five examples of people who changed their mind about
    you? Problem is no context. How does this statistic compare to how
    many RSG members who you’ve personally met & are still friendly
    with you? FYI, we could count “total met”, but would then have to
    subtract out the Ghosting, since that’s a thing too.


    -hh

    I will freely admit I have not been perfect around here. But, do I

    You've been a selfish ass who demanded that others ignore your bad
    behaviour and <whine> "please stop being mean to me!!!!".

    deserve having Baker hung around my neck? According to him there is
    not a single good thing about me. Nothing. I have to keep reminding
    myself he is just a psycho.

    I've not seen anything good about you, Ken.

    Whose fault is that?

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to KenPitts on Thu Sep 22 18:31:04 2022
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 7:07:38 PM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 5:56:07 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 6:44:10 PM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:15:21 PM UTC-5, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:43:51 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 12:41, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:19:43 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 11:55, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:50:50 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 14:31, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:33:58 PM UTC-4, Alan >>>>> wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 08:01, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM UTC-5, >>>>>>> Irving S wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I
    really loved watching him play, he was amazing in his >>>>>>>> prime. But, he will never surpass the record of Jack, >>>>>>>> as far as majors won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma to >>>>>>>> his body. He is strictly ceremonial at this point. Sad, >>>>>>>> but true.

    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident occurred. >>>>>>> I think he will only show up at majors from here on out. >>>>>>> That is unless the regular tour event has some special >>>>>>> significance for him. Two things - his showing at the >>>>>>> Open Championship was a big indicator that his progress >>>>>>> is limited. Also, did you see how badly he was limping >>>>>>> when he showed up for that meeting with Rory and the
    others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to be a
    racist because I was not in love with Tiger like so many >>>>>>> others. Whatever. I should have given it more thought. >>>>>>> carbon wins if Tiger breaks the record. I only win when >>>>>>> carbon gives up. I pay when I lose - ask Annika1980 and >>>>>>> Rev Leroy. And given my age, carbon could run out the >>>>>>> clock.
    I don't recall Carbon calling you a racist...

    ...but you clearly are.

    Your standards for accusing athletes of inappropriate
    behaviour clearly changed with the colour of the athletes >>>>>> skin.

    Hilarious. You have called Pitts a racist before, years ago. >>>>> .
    Yes. I've never claimed I didn't, so what point are you
    making, Dickhead?

    . At least you are admitting you have called Pitts a racist. So >>> easy for those on the left to call others racist. Well, I did >>> just a
    I don't call everyone racists...

    ...just the ones who are obviously racist.
    quick search on Pitts and his comments abou Tiger, I find
    NOTHING overtly racist. Yes, Ken had issues with his on course >>> behavior, but it was not related to race. Ken NEVER brought race >>> into the discussion and I bet if Tiger was white, his comments >>> wouid be identical. Please show us SPECIFIC comments that would >>> say that Ken is a racist, otherwise once again you lose
    credibility. This is getting to be an ongoing issue with you
    Grandpa.
    Except his complaints about behaviour by athletes were always
    about black athletes.

    Oh, and one more thing old man. Tom E made one comment about you >>> appearance. You accused him of stalking you, after ONE comment. >>> You
    Nope.
    have repeatedly called Ken a racist, is that not stalking. I
    mean
    No, it's not.

    It's replying in a forum to messages he posted.
    how many times do we need you to remind us. What a crybaby you >>> are. One post about your appearance, you accuse another of
    stalking, yet
    Wrong.
    you can call others a racist over and over and that is not
    stalking?
    Because it isn't.
    Incredible, you really are to be pitied.

    How many times do you have to remind us that you think Pitts is a racist? Does it not get old and repetitive after a while, or is this
    How many times are you going to argue I'm not entitled to my opinion,
    Dickhead?
    something you "get off" on. You have said it so many times, you insult your audience, do you not think we get it after you repeat it
    over and over. What the hell is wrong with you?

    I think he is a sweet decent man. I have never met him, but do know
    That says everything right there.
    of one former RSG poster that has, and this person had nothing but good things to say about him. I heard he is beyond generous, and a fun guy to play golf with, married to a very beautiful woman and is
    a devoted family man. These are concepts foreign to you, you have no
    wife, no kids. Maybe you are just jealous, otherwise you would let this racism BS go already, it is way past old. And even if he WAS racist, what good does it do to accuse him over and over, and remind
    us over and over. We get it you clown, we got it a long time ago. You enjoy calling me "dickhead" keep at it, anything to help fill a
    void in your life and give you a sense of importance.
    I've met him.

    He's a jerk.
    Hilarious! You MET him. Do you KNOW him, as a person. So based on a meeting or two at some RSG golf outings, we are to take you at your word that he's a jerk. How about some specifics, what has he done to you or done to others to deserve such a
    blanket characterization. And again, how many times do we have to hear your negative characterizations of the guy, we got it a long time ago. So other than your alleged racism and throwing a club which he denies, what in your world makes the guy a jerk?.
    You put the statement out there, now you need to back it up. Otherwise, once again you are shown to be a really bored and bitter blowhard.

    Oh, and one more think Grandpa. You said "He's a jerk". That is in the present tense. When is the last time you saw him? How many years? Whatever preoccupation you have with him, you still have not let it go. Wow!

    I never attended any of those RSG events, but Ken did sponsor one if I recall, and they all had a great time. If I am not mistaken, he won an event or two, and everyone was happy for him and said nice things about him and his game, based on the
    posts. So it seems others think Ken is a pretty cool stand up guy, you just seem to have some issue with him. Care to elaborate or are you at a loss of words old man? You made a statement, that he is a jerk. Have the gonads to tell him and the rest of us
    what he has done to deserve this. That after all these years, he has made such a strong impression on you, that he is still regarded as a "jerk". We will be waiting for an explanation. Maybe we can all agree that you have wore us all out with this
    bitterness and stupidity and need to let it go. We are talking years and years ago, and you still disparage the guy. Wow, are you to be pitied!

    Irving, you can get my email address by responding to one of my posts. Drop me a line and we can discuss possibly playing.

    I would say, there are some in RSG with whom I have been friendly who have reversed course about me. Rev Leroy had me as his guest at Colonial and I had him as a guest at my club, Woodhaven. Then he decided I was a bad person and he contacted the
    CIO where I was working to complain about me and my activities here. That ultimately led to me being terminated. Early example of cancel culture. Thanks a lot.

    Bobby Knight had me as his guest at Denton Country Club. Then we got into it over Eric Clapton, of all things. Bobby had a history in the music business in LA, maybe even part of the legendary Wrecking Crew. He had assigned Clapton to being nothing
    but a psychedelic rocker. Hard to imagine since Clapton won a Grammy for the album Unplugged. Bobby knew that but would not relent. We have not spoken since.

    Randy Brown and I had our moments but those seemed to be resolved during the two RSG Atlanta events. But, during the Iraq war his son enlisted in the military. As a veteran, I wished the son well and that he would serve with honor and distinction.
    Randy replied that he hated me. Guess he was not on board with the enlistment.

    Chris Bellomy and I rode together to the first RSG event I played in. RSG Texas in Glenrose. He was the first RSG person I ever met. Later on I made a statement that leftists who were causing trouble deserved to be baton whipped by the police.
    Somehow he decided that I was saying he should be whipped. Never did. But, he pointed that out, he blocked me on Facebook and we have never spoken since. He was even a member of my club for a while.

    As with Baker, I have had misunderstandings in this forum. Some causing me more than a little grief. Question, have you ever seen anyone side with Baker or say anything nice about him? I have not. Not even the anonymous trolls like Felicia. You
    have it right. Sad, bitter and lonely. Strokes from him are always hateful, especially for me.

    Ken

    Gosh, having five examples of people who changed their mind about you? Problem is no context. How does this statistic compare to how many RSG members who you’ve personally met & are still friendly with you? FYI, we could count “total met”, but would then have to subtract out the Ghosting,
    since that’s a thing too.


    -hh

    I will freely admit I have not been perfect around here.

    You are responsible for you.

    “You have to know yourself, be honest about yourself, and rely on people around you to tell you when you're being an asshole,” he told me. “And when
    they are kind enough to tell you, listen.”

    <https://www.vox.com/conversations/2017/9/26/16345476/stanford-psychologist-art-of-avoiding-assholes>


    But, do I deserve having Baker hung around my neck?

    It depends. Case in point, were you unable to answer my above question, or were
    you trying to avoid answering it?

    According to him there is not a single good thing about me. Nothing.

    Since you are responsible for you, what have you accomplished to give
    him cause to reconsider? Or anyone else on the group for that matter.

    I have to keep reminding myself he is just a psycho.

    There's an old saying that says that when everyone around you are assholes, it's not them [alternatively: 'its probably you.].

    -hh

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  • From KenPitts@21:1/5 to -hh on Thu Sep 22 19:47:55 2022
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 5:56:07 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 6:44:10 PM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:15:21 PM UTC-5, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:43:51 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 12:41, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:19:43 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 11:55, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:50:50 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 14:31, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:33:58 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 08:01, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM UTC-5,
    Irving S wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I
    really loved watching him play, he was amazing in his >>>>>>>> prime. But, he will never surpass the record of Jack, >>>>>>>> as far as majors won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma to
    his body. He is strictly ceremonial at this point. Sad, >>>>>>>> but true.

    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident occurred. >>>>>>> I think he will only show up at majors from here on out. >>>>>>> That is unless the regular tour event has some special
    significance for him. Two things - his showing at the
    Open Championship was a big indicator that his progress >>>>>>> is limited. Also, did you see how badly he was limping
    when he showed up for that meeting with Rory and the
    others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to be a
    racist because I was not in love with Tiger like so many >>>>>>> others. Whatever. I should have given it more thought.
    carbon wins if Tiger breaks the record. I only win when >>>>>>> carbon gives up. I pay when I lose - ask Annika1980 and >>>>>>> Rev Leroy. And given my age, carbon could run out the
    clock.
    I don't recall Carbon calling you a racist...

    ...but you clearly are.

    Your standards for accusing athletes of inappropriate
    behaviour clearly changed with the colour of the athletes >>>>>> skin.

    Hilarious. You have called Pitts a racist before, years ago. >>>>> .
    Yes. I've never claimed I didn't, so what point are you
    making, Dickhead?

    . At least you are admitting you have called Pitts a racist. So >>> easy for those on the left to call others racist. Well, I did
    just a
    I don't call everyone racists...

    ...just the ones who are obviously racist.
    quick search on Pitts and his comments abou Tiger, I find
    NOTHING overtly racist. Yes, Ken had issues with his on course
    behavior, but it was not related to race. Ken NEVER brought race >>> into the discussion and I bet if Tiger was white, his comments
    wouid be identical. Please show us SPECIFIC comments that would >>> say that Ken is a racist, otherwise once again you lose
    credibility. This is getting to be an ongoing issue with you
    Grandpa.
    Except his complaints about behaviour by athletes were always
    about black athletes.

    Oh, and one more thing old man. Tom E made one comment about you >>> appearance. You accused him of stalking you, after ONE comment. >>> You
    Nope.
    have repeatedly called Ken a racist, is that not stalking. I
    mean
    No, it's not.

    It's replying in a forum to messages he posted.
    how many times do we need you to remind us. What a crybaby you
    are. One post about your appearance, you accuse another of
    stalking, yet
    Wrong.
    you can call others a racist over and over and that is not
    stalking?
    Because it isn't.
    Incredible, you really are to be pitied.

    How many times do you have to remind us that you think Pitts is a racist? Does it not get old and repetitive after a while, or is this
    How many times are you going to argue I'm not entitled to my opinion, Dickhead?
    something you "get off" on. You have said it so many times, you insult your audience, do you not think we get it after you repeat it over and over. What the hell is wrong with you?

    I think he is a sweet decent man. I have never met him, but do know
    That says everything right there.
    of one former RSG poster that has, and this person had nothing but good things to say about him. I heard he is beyond generous, and a fun guy to play golf with, married to a very beautiful woman and is a devoted family man. These are concepts foreign to you, you have no wife, no kids. Maybe you are just jealous, otherwise you would let this racism BS go already, it is way past old. And even if he WAS racist, what good does it do to accuse him over and over, and remind us over and over. We get it you clown, we got it a long time ago. You enjoy calling me "dickhead" keep at it, anything to help fill a void in your life and give you a sense of importance.
    I've met him.

    He's a jerk.
    Hilarious! You MET him. Do you KNOW him, as a person. So based on a meeting or two at some RSG golf outings, we are to take you at your word that he's a jerk. How about some specifics, what has he done to you or done to others to deserve such a
    blanket characterization. And again, how many times do we have to hear your negative characterizations of the guy, we got it a long time ago. So other than your alleged racism and throwing a club which he denies, what in your world makes the guy a jerk?.
    You put the statement out there, now you need to back it up. Otherwise, once again you are shown to be a really bored and bitter blowhard.

    Oh, and one more think Grandpa. You said "He's a jerk". That is in the present tense. When is the last time you saw him? How many years? Whatever preoccupation you have with him, you still have not let it go. Wow!

    I never attended any of those RSG events, but Ken did sponsor one if I recall, and they all had a great time. If I am not mistaken, he won an event or two, and everyone was happy for him and said nice things about him and his game, based on the
    posts. So it seems others think Ken is a pretty cool stand up guy, you just seem to have some issue with him. Care to elaborate or are you at a loss of words old man? You made a statement, that he is a jerk. Have the gonads to tell him and the rest of us
    what he has done to deserve this. That after all these years, he has made such a strong impression on you, that he is still regarded as a "jerk". We will be waiting for an explanation. Maybe we can all agree that you have wore us all out with this
    bitterness and stupidity and need to let it go. We are talking years and years ago, and you still disparage the guy. Wow, are you to be pitied!

    Irving, you can get my email address by responding to one of my posts. Drop me a line and we can discuss possibly playing.

    I would say, there are some in RSG with whom I have been friendly who have reversed course about me. Rev Leroy had me as his guest at Colonial and I had him as a guest at my club, Woodhaven. Then he decided I was a bad person and he contacted the CIO
    where I was working to complain about me and my activities here. That ultimately led to me being terminated. Early example of cancel culture. Thanks a lot.

    Bobby Knight had me as his guest at Denton Country Club. Then we got into it over Eric Clapton, of all things. Bobby had a history in the music business in LA, maybe even part of the legendary Wrecking Crew. He had assigned Clapton to being nothing
    but a psychedelic rocker. Hard to imagine since Clapton won a Grammy for the album Unplugged. Bobby knew that but would not relent. We have not spoken since.

    Randy Brown and I had our moments but those seemed to be resolved during the two RSG Atlanta events. But, during the Iraq war his son enlisted in the military. As a veteran, I wished the son well and that he would serve with honor and distinction.
    Randy replied that he hated me. Guess he was not on board with the enlistment.

    Chris Bellomy and I rode together to the first RSG event I played in. RSG Texas in Glenrose. He was the first RSG person I ever met. Later on I made a statement that leftists who were causing trouble deserved to be baton whipped by the police.
    Somehow he decided that I was saying he should be whipped. Never did. But, he pointed that out, he blocked me on Facebook and we have never spoken since. He was even a member of my club for a while.

    As with Baker, I have had misunderstandings in this forum. Some causing me more than a little grief. Question, have you ever seen anyone side with Baker or say anything nice about him? I have not. Not even the anonymous trolls like Felicia. You have
    it right. Sad, bitter and lonely. Strokes from him are always hateful, especially for me.

    Ken
    Gosh, having five examples of people who changed their mind about you? Problem is no context. How does this statistic compare to how many RSG members who you’ve personally met & are still friendly with you? FYI, we could count “total met”, but would then have to subtract out the Ghosting,
    since that’s a thing too.


    -hh

    In over 25 years. I do not know how many. Two for sure. Robert Hamilton and John Pflum.

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  • From KenPitts@21:1/5 to -hh on Thu Sep 22 19:49:01 2022
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 8:31:06 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 7:07:38 PM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 5:56:07 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 6:44:10 PM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:15:21 PM UTC-5, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:43:51 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 12:41, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:19:43 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 11:55, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:50:50 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 14:31, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:33:58 PM UTC-4, Alan >>>>> wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 08:01, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM UTC-5, >>>>>>> Irving S wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I
    really loved watching him play, he was amazing in his >>>>>>>> prime. But, he will never surpass the record of Jack, >>>>>>>> as far as majors won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma to >>>>>>>> his body. He is strictly ceremonial at this point. Sad, >>>>>>>> but true.

    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident occurred. >>>>>>> I think he will only show up at majors from here on out. >>>>>>> That is unless the regular tour event has some special >>>>>>> significance for him. Two things - his showing at the >>>>>>> Open Championship was a big indicator that his progress >>>>>>> is limited. Also, did you see how badly he was limping >>>>>>> when he showed up for that meeting with Rory and the >>>>>>> others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to be a >>>>>>> racist because I was not in love with Tiger like so many >>>>>>> others. Whatever. I should have given it more thought. >>>>>>> carbon wins if Tiger breaks the record. I only win when >>>>>>> carbon gives up. I pay when I lose - ask Annika1980 and >>>>>>> Rev Leroy. And given my age, carbon could run out the >>>>>>> clock.
    I don't recall Carbon calling you a racist...

    ...but you clearly are.

    Your standards for accusing athletes of inappropriate >>>>>> behaviour clearly changed with the colour of the athletes >>>>>> skin.

    Hilarious. You have called Pitts a racist before, years ago. >>>>> .
    Yes. I've never claimed I didn't, so what point are you
    making, Dickhead?

    . At least you are admitting you have called Pitts a racist. So
    easy for those on the left to call others racist. Well, I did >>> just a
    I don't call everyone racists...

    ...just the ones who are obviously racist.
    quick search on Pitts and his comments abou Tiger, I find
    NOTHING overtly racist. Yes, Ken had issues with his on course >>> behavior, but it was not related to race. Ken NEVER brought race
    into the discussion and I bet if Tiger was white, his comments >>> wouid be identical. Please show us SPECIFIC comments that would
    say that Ken is a racist, otherwise once again you lose
    credibility. This is getting to be an ongoing issue with you >>> Grandpa.
    Except his complaints about behaviour by athletes were always >> about black athletes.

    Oh, and one more thing old man. Tom E made one comment about you
    appearance. You accused him of stalking you, after ONE comment.
    You
    Nope.
    have repeatedly called Ken a racist, is that not stalking. I >>> mean
    No, it's not.

    It's replying in a forum to messages he posted.
    how many times do we need you to remind us. What a crybaby you >>> are. One post about your appearance, you accuse another of
    stalking, yet
    Wrong.
    you can call others a racist over and over and that is not
    stalking?
    Because it isn't.
    Incredible, you really are to be pitied.

    How many times do you have to remind us that you think Pitts is a
    racist? Does it not get old and repetitive after a while, or is this
    How many times are you going to argue I'm not entitled to my opinion,
    Dickhead?
    something you "get off" on. You have said it so many times, you insult your audience, do you not think we get it after you repeat it
    over and over. What the hell is wrong with you?

    I think he is a sweet decent man. I have never met him, but do know
    That says everything right there.
    of one former RSG poster that has, and this person had nothing but
    good things to say about him. I heard he is beyond generous, and a
    fun guy to play golf with, married to a very beautiful woman and is
    a devoted family man. These are concepts foreign to you, you have no
    wife, no kids. Maybe you are just jealous, otherwise you would let
    this racism BS go already, it is way past old. And even if he WAS
    racist, what good does it do to accuse him over and over, and remind
    us over and over. We get it you clown, we got it a long time ago.
    You enjoy calling me "dickhead" keep at it, anything to help fill a
    void in your life and give you a sense of importance.
    I've met him.

    He's a jerk.
    Hilarious! You MET him. Do you KNOW him, as a person. So based on a meeting or two at some RSG golf outings, we are to take you at your word that he's a jerk. How about some specifics, what has he done to you or done to others to deserve such a
    blanket characterization. And again, how many times do we have to hear your negative characterizations of the guy, we got it a long time ago. So other than your alleged racism and throwing a club which he denies, what in your world makes the guy a jerk?.
    You put the statement out there, now you need to back it up. Otherwise, once again you are shown to be a really bored and bitter blowhard.

    Oh, and one more think Grandpa. You said "He's a jerk". That is in the present tense. When is the last time you saw him? How many years? Whatever preoccupation you have with him, you still have not let it go. Wow!

    I never attended any of those RSG events, but Ken did sponsor one if I recall, and they all had a great time. If I am not mistaken, he won an event or two, and everyone was happy for him and said nice things about him and his game, based on the
    posts. So it seems others think Ken is a pretty cool stand up guy, you just seem to have some issue with him. Care to elaborate or are you at a loss of words old man? You made a statement, that he is a jerk. Have the gonads to tell him and the rest of us
    what he has done to deserve this. That after all these years, he has made such a strong impression on you, that he is still regarded as a "jerk". We will be waiting for an explanation. Maybe we can all agree that you have wore us all out with this
    bitterness and stupidity and need to let it go. We are talking years and years ago, and you still disparage the guy. Wow, are you to be pitied!

    Irving, you can get my email address by responding to one of my posts. Drop me a line and we can discuss possibly playing.

    I would say, there are some in RSG with whom I have been friendly who have reversed course about me. Rev Leroy had me as his guest at Colonial and I had him as a guest at my club, Woodhaven. Then he decided I was a bad person and he contacted the
    CIO where I was working to complain about me and my activities here. That ultimately led to me being terminated. Early example of cancel culture. Thanks a lot.

    Bobby Knight had me as his guest at Denton Country Club. Then we got into it over Eric Clapton, of all things. Bobby had a history in the music business in LA, maybe even part of the legendary Wrecking Crew. He had assigned Clapton to being
    nothing but a psychedelic rocker. Hard to imagine since Clapton won a Grammy for the album Unplugged. Bobby knew that but would not relent. We have not spoken since.

    Randy Brown and I had our moments but those seemed to be resolved during the two RSG Atlanta events. But, during the Iraq war his son enlisted in the military. As a veteran, I wished the son well and that he would serve with honor and distinction.
    Randy replied that he hated me. Guess he was not on board with the enlistment.

    Chris Bellomy and I rode together to the first RSG event I played in. RSG Texas in Glenrose. He was the first RSG person I ever met. Later on I made a statement that leftists who were causing trouble deserved to be baton whipped by the police.
    Somehow he decided that I was saying he should be whipped. Never did. But, he pointed that out, he blocked me on Facebook and we have never spoken since. He was even a member of my club for a while.

    As with Baker, I have had misunderstandings in this forum. Some causing me more than a little grief. Question, have you ever seen anyone side with Baker or say anything nice about him? I have not. Not even the anonymous trolls like Felicia. You
    have it right. Sad, bitter and lonely. Strokes from him are always hateful, especially for me.

    Ken

    Gosh, having five examples of people who changed their mind about you? Problem is no context. How does this statistic compare to how many RSG members who you’ve personally met & are still friendly with you? FYI, we
    could count “total met”, but would then have to subtract out the Ghosting,
    since that’s a thing too.


    -hh

    I will freely admit I have not been perfect around here.
    You are responsible for you.

    “You have to know yourself, be honest about yourself, and rely on people around you to tell you when you're being an asshole,” he told me. “And when
    they are kind enough to tell you, listen.”

    <https://www.vox.com/conversations/2017/9/26/16345476/stanford-psychologist-art-of-avoiding-assholes>
    But, do I deserve having Baker hung around my neck?
    It depends. Case in point, were you unable to answer my above question, or were
    you trying to avoid answering it?
    According to him there is not a single good thing about me. Nothing.
    Since you are responsible for you, what have you accomplished to give
    him cause to reconsider? Or anyone else on the group for that matter.
    I have to keep reminding myself he is just a psycho.
    There's an old saying that says that when everyone around you are assholes, it's not them [alternatively: 'its probably you.].

    -hh

    Where did I say everyone? I was talking about Baker.

    Ken

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  • From KenPitts@21:1/5 to KenPitts on Fri Sep 23 04:10:51 2022
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 9:47:56 PM UTC-5, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 5:56:07 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 6:44:10 PM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:15:21 PM UTC-5, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:43:51 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 12:41, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:19:43 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 11:55, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:50:50 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 14:31, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:33:58 PM UTC-4, Alan >>>>> wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 08:01, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM UTC-5, >>>>>>> Irving S wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I
    really loved watching him play, he was amazing in his >>>>>>>> prime. But, he will never surpass the record of Jack, >>>>>>>> as far as majors won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma to >>>>>>>> his body. He is strictly ceremonial at this point. Sad, >>>>>>>> but true.

    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident occurred. >>>>>>> I think he will only show up at majors from here on out. >>>>>>> That is unless the regular tour event has some special >>>>>>> significance for him. Two things - his showing at the >>>>>>> Open Championship was a big indicator that his progress >>>>>>> is limited. Also, did you see how badly he was limping >>>>>>> when he showed up for that meeting with Rory and the
    others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to be a
    racist because I was not in love with Tiger like so many >>>>>>> others. Whatever. I should have given it more thought. >>>>>>> carbon wins if Tiger breaks the record. I only win when >>>>>>> carbon gives up. I pay when I lose - ask Annika1980 and >>>>>>> Rev Leroy. And given my age, carbon could run out the >>>>>>> clock.
    I don't recall Carbon calling you a racist...

    ...but you clearly are.

    Your standards for accusing athletes of inappropriate
    behaviour clearly changed with the colour of the athletes >>>>>> skin.

    Hilarious. You have called Pitts a racist before, years ago. >>>>> .
    Yes. I've never claimed I didn't, so what point are you
    making, Dickhead?

    . At least you are admitting you have called Pitts a racist. So >>> easy for those on the left to call others racist. Well, I did >>> just a
    I don't call everyone racists...

    ...just the ones who are obviously racist.
    quick search on Pitts and his comments abou Tiger, I find
    NOTHING overtly racist. Yes, Ken had issues with his on course >>> behavior, but it was not related to race. Ken NEVER brought race >>> into the discussion and I bet if Tiger was white, his comments >>> wouid be identical. Please show us SPECIFIC comments that would >>> say that Ken is a racist, otherwise once again you lose
    credibility. This is getting to be an ongoing issue with you
    Grandpa.
    Except his complaints about behaviour by athletes were always
    about black athletes.

    Oh, and one more thing old man. Tom E made one comment about you >>> appearance. You accused him of stalking you, after ONE comment. >>> You
    Nope.
    have repeatedly called Ken a racist, is that not stalking. I
    mean
    No, it's not.

    It's replying in a forum to messages he posted.
    how many times do we need you to remind us. What a crybaby you >>> are. One post about your appearance, you accuse another of
    stalking, yet
    Wrong.
    you can call others a racist over and over and that is not
    stalking?
    Because it isn't.
    Incredible, you really are to be pitied.

    How many times do you have to remind us that you think Pitts is a racist? Does it not get old and repetitive after a while, or is this
    How many times are you going to argue I'm not entitled to my opinion,
    Dickhead?
    something you "get off" on. You have said it so many times, you insult your audience, do you not think we get it after you repeat it
    over and over. What the hell is wrong with you?

    I think he is a sweet decent man. I have never met him, but do know
    That says everything right there.
    of one former RSG poster that has, and this person had nothing but good things to say about him. I heard he is beyond generous, and a fun guy to play golf with, married to a very beautiful woman and is
    a devoted family man. These are concepts foreign to you, you have no
    wife, no kids. Maybe you are just jealous, otherwise you would let this racism BS go already, it is way past old. And even if he WAS racist, what good does it do to accuse him over and over, and remind
    us over and over. We get it you clown, we got it a long time ago. You enjoy calling me "dickhead" keep at it, anything to help fill a
    void in your life and give you a sense of importance.
    I've met him.

    He's a jerk.
    Hilarious! You MET him. Do you KNOW him, as a person. So based on a meeting or two at some RSG golf outings, we are to take you at your word that he's a jerk. How about some specifics, what has he done to you or done to others to deserve such a
    blanket characterization. And again, how many times do we have to hear your negative characterizations of the guy, we got it a long time ago. So other than your alleged racism and throwing a club which he denies, what in your world makes the guy a jerk?.
    You put the statement out there, now you need to back it up. Otherwise, once again you are shown to be a really bored and bitter blowhard.

    Oh, and one more think Grandpa. You said "He's a jerk". That is in the present tense. When is the last time you saw him? How many years? Whatever preoccupation you have with him, you still have not let it go. Wow!

    I never attended any of those RSG events, but Ken did sponsor one if I recall, and they all had a great time. If I am not mistaken, he won an event or two, and everyone was happy for him and said nice things about him and his game, based on the
    posts. So it seems others think Ken is a pretty cool stand up guy, you just seem to have some issue with him. Care to elaborate or are you at a loss of words old man? You made a statement, that he is a jerk. Have the gonads to tell him and the rest of us
    what he has done to deserve this. That after all these years, he has made such a strong impression on you, that he is still regarded as a "jerk". We will be waiting for an explanation. Maybe we can all agree that you have wore us all out with this
    bitterness and stupidity and need to let it go. We are talking years and years ago, and you still disparage the guy. Wow, are you to be pitied!

    Irving, you can get my email address by responding to one of my posts. Drop me a line and we can discuss possibly playing.

    I would say, there are some in RSG with whom I have been friendly who have reversed course about me. Rev Leroy had me as his guest at Colonial and I had him as a guest at my club, Woodhaven. Then he decided I was a bad person and he contacted the
    CIO where I was working to complain about me and my activities here. That ultimately led to me being terminated. Early example of cancel culture. Thanks a lot.

    Bobby Knight had me as his guest at Denton Country Club. Then we got into it over Eric Clapton, of all things. Bobby had a history in the music business in LA, maybe even part of the legendary Wrecking Crew. He had assigned Clapton to being nothing
    but a psychedelic rocker. Hard to imagine since Clapton won a Grammy for the album Unplugged. Bobby knew that but would not relent. We have not spoken since.

    Randy Brown and I had our moments but those seemed to be resolved during the two RSG Atlanta events. But, during the Iraq war his son enlisted in the military. As a veteran, I wished the son well and that he would serve with honor and distinction.
    Randy replied that he hated me. Guess he was not on board with the enlistment.

    Chris Bellomy and I rode together to the first RSG event I played in. RSG Texas in Glenrose. He was the first RSG person I ever met. Later on I made a statement that leftists who were causing trouble deserved to be baton whipped by the police.
    Somehow he decided that I was saying he should be whipped. Never did. But, he pointed that out, he blocked me on Facebook and we have never spoken since. He was even a member of my club for a while.

    As with Baker, I have had misunderstandings in this forum. Some causing me more than a little grief. Question, have you ever seen anyone side with Baker or say anything nice about him? I have not. Not even the anonymous trolls like Felicia. You
    have it right. Sad, bitter and lonely. Strokes from him are always hateful, especially for me.

    Ken
    Gosh, having five examples of people who changed their mind about you? Problem is no context. How does this statistic compare to how many RSG members who you’ve personally met & are still friendly with you? FYI, we could count “total met”, but would then have to subtract out the Ghosting,
    since that’s a thing too.


    -hh
    In over 25 years. I do not know how many. Two for sure. Robert Hamilton and John Pflum.

    David Laville also. He is coming up to DFW for golf soon.

    Ken

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to KenPitts on Fri Sep 23 07:36:20 2022
    On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 7:10:53 AM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 9:47:56 PM UTC-5, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 5:56:07 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 6:44:10 PM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:15:21 PM UTC-5, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:43:51 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 12:41, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:19:43 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 11:55, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:50:50 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 14:31, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:33:58 PM UTC-4, Alan >>>>> wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 08:01, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM UTC-5, >>>>>>> Irving S wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I
    really loved watching him play, he was amazing in his >>>>>>>> prime. But, he will never surpass the record of Jack, >>>>>>>> as far as majors won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma to >>>>>>>> his body. He is strictly ceremonial at this point. Sad, >>>>>>>> but true.

    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident occurred. >>>>>>> I think he will only show up at majors from here on out. >>>>>>> That is unless the regular tour event has some special >>>>>>> significance for him. Two things - his showing at the >>>>>>> Open Championship was a big indicator that his progress >>>>>>> is limited. Also, did you see how badly he was limping >>>>>>> when he showed up for that meeting with Rory and the >>>>>>> others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to be a >>>>>>> racist because I was not in love with Tiger like so many >>>>>>> others. Whatever. I should have given it more thought. >>>>>>> carbon wins if Tiger breaks the record. I only win when >>>>>>> carbon gives up. I pay when I lose - ask Annika1980 and >>>>>>> Rev Leroy. And given my age, carbon could run out the >>>>>>> clock.
    I don't recall Carbon calling you a racist...

    ...but you clearly are.

    Your standards for accusing athletes of inappropriate >>>>>> behaviour clearly changed with the colour of the athletes >>>>>> skin.

    Hilarious. You have called Pitts a racist before, years ago. >>>>> .
    Yes. I've never claimed I didn't, so what point are you
    making, Dickhead?

    . At least you are admitting you have called Pitts a racist. So
    easy for those on the left to call others racist. Well, I did >>> just a
    I don't call everyone racists...

    ...just the ones who are obviously racist.
    quick search on Pitts and his comments abou Tiger, I find
    NOTHING overtly racist. Yes, Ken had issues with his on course >>> behavior, but it was not related to race. Ken NEVER brought race
    into the discussion and I bet if Tiger was white, his comments >>> wouid be identical. Please show us SPECIFIC comments that would
    say that Ken is a racist, otherwise once again you lose
    credibility. This is getting to be an ongoing issue with you >>> Grandpa.
    Except his complaints about behaviour by athletes were always >> about black athletes.

    Oh, and one more thing old man. Tom E made one comment about you
    appearance. You accused him of stalking you, after ONE comment.
    You
    Nope.
    have repeatedly called Ken a racist, is that not stalking. I >>> mean
    No, it's not.

    It's replying in a forum to messages he posted.
    how many times do we need you to remind us. What a crybaby you >>> are. One post about your appearance, you accuse another of
    stalking, yet
    Wrong.
    you can call others a racist over and over and that is not
    stalking?
    Because it isn't.
    Incredible, you really are to be pitied.

    How many times do you have to remind us that you think Pitts is a
    racist? Does it not get old and repetitive after a while, or is this
    How many times are you going to argue I'm not entitled to my opinion,
    Dickhead?
    something you "get off" on. You have said it so many times, you insult your audience, do you not think we get it after you repeat it
    over and over. What the hell is wrong with you?

    I think he is a sweet decent man. I have never met him, but do know
    That says everything right there.
    of one former RSG poster that has, and this person had nothing but
    good things to say about him. I heard he is beyond generous, and a
    fun guy to play golf with, married to a very beautiful woman and is
    a devoted family man. These are concepts foreign to you, you have no
    wife, no kids. Maybe you are just jealous, otherwise you would let
    this racism BS go already, it is way past old. And even if he WAS
    racist, what good does it do to accuse him over and over, and remind
    us over and over. We get it you clown, we got it a long time ago.
    You enjoy calling me "dickhead" keep at it, anything to help fill a
    void in your life and give you a sense of importance.
    I've met him.

    He's a jerk.
    Hilarious! You MET him. Do you KNOW him, as a person. So based on a meeting or two at some RSG golf outings, we are to take you at your word that he's a jerk. How about some specifics, what has he done to you or done to others to deserve such a
    blanket characterization. And again, how many times do we have to hear your negative characterizations of the guy, we got it a long time ago. So other than your alleged racism and throwing a club which he denies, what in your world makes the guy a jerk?.
    You put the statement out there, now you need to back it up. Otherwise, once again you are shown to be a really bored and bitter blowhard.

    Oh, and one more think Grandpa. You said "He's a jerk". That is in the present tense. When is the last time you saw him? How many years? Whatever preoccupation you have with him, you still have not let it go. Wow!

    I never attended any of those RSG events, but Ken did sponsor one if I recall, and they all had a great time. If I am not mistaken, he won an event or two, and everyone was happy for him and said nice things about him and his game, based on the
    posts. So it seems others think Ken is a pretty cool stand up guy, you just seem to have some issue with him. Care to elaborate or are you at a loss of words old man? You made a statement, that he is a jerk. Have the gonads to tell him and the rest of us
    what he has done to deserve this. That after all these years, he has made such a strong impression on you, that he is still regarded as a "jerk". We will be waiting for an explanation. Maybe we can all agree that you have wore us all out with this
    bitterness and stupidity and need to let it go. We are talking years and years ago, and you still disparage the guy. Wow, are you to be pitied!

    Irving, you can get my email address by responding to one of my posts. Drop me a line and we can discuss possibly playing.

    I would say, there are some in RSG with whom I have been friendly who have reversed course about me. Rev Leroy had me as his guest at Colonial and I had him as a guest at my club, Woodhaven. Then he decided I was a bad person and he contacted the
    CIO where I was working to complain about me and my activities here. That ultimately led to me being terminated. Early example of cancel culture. Thanks a lot.

    Bobby Knight had me as his guest at Denton Country Club. Then we got into it over Eric Clapton, of all things. Bobby had a history in the music business in LA, maybe even part of the legendary Wrecking Crew. He had assigned Clapton to being
    nothing but a psychedelic rocker. Hard to imagine since Clapton won a Grammy for the album Unplugged. Bobby knew that but would not relent. We have not spoken since.

    Randy Brown and I had our moments but those seemed to be resolved during the two RSG Atlanta events. But, during the Iraq war his son enlisted in the military. As a veteran, I wished the son well and that he would serve with honor and distinction.
    Randy replied that he hated me. Guess he was not on board with the enlistment.

    Chris Bellomy and I rode together to the first RSG event I played in. RSG Texas in Glenrose. He was the first RSG person I ever met. Later on I made a statement that leftists who were causing trouble deserved to be baton whipped by the police.
    Somehow he decided that I was saying he should be whipped. Never did. But, he pointed that out, he blocked me on Facebook and we have never spoken since. He was even a member of my club for a while.

    As with Baker, I have had misunderstandings in this forum. Some causing me more than a little grief. Question, have you ever seen anyone side with Baker or say anything nice about him? I have not. Not even the anonymous trolls like Felicia. You
    have it right. Sad, bitter and lonely. Strokes from him are always hateful, especially for me.

    Ken
    Gosh, having five examples of people who changed their mind about you? Problem is no context. How does this statistic compare to how many RSG members who you’ve personally met & are still friendly with you? FYI, we
    could count “total met”, but would then have to subtract out the Ghosting,
    since that’s a thing too.


    -hh

    In over 25 years. I do not know how many. Two for sure. Robert Hamilton and John Pflum.
    David Laville also. He is coming up to DFW for golf soon.

    So that's five down and maybe three up. Not a particularly admirable ratio there, Ken.

    POST MERGE<<

    There's an old saying that says that when everyone around you are assholes, >> it's not them [alternatively: 'its probably you.].
    -hh

    Where did I say everyone?

    I merely was quoting an old adage that wasn't specifically about you.

    I was talking about Baker.

    You've already admitted that there's several others too who are not present to defend themselves: Rev Leroy, Bobby Knight, Randy Brown, Chris Bellomy, etc.


    -hh

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  • From KenPitts@21:1/5 to -hh on Fri Sep 23 08:16:01 2022
    On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 9:36:21 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
    On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 7:10:53 AM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 9:47:56 PM UTC-5, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 5:56:07 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 6:44:10 PM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:15:21 PM UTC-5, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:43:51 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 12:41, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:19:43 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 11:55, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:50:50 PM UTC-4, Alan >>> wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 14:31, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:33:58 PM UTC-4, Alan >>>>> wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 08:01, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM UTC-5, >>>>>>> Irving S wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I >>>>>>>> really loved watching him play, he was amazing in his >>>>>>>> prime. But, he will never surpass the record of Jack, >>>>>>>> as far as majors won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma to >>>>>>>> his body. He is strictly ceremonial at this point. Sad, >>>>>>>> but true.

    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident occurred.
    I think he will only show up at majors from here on out. >>>>>>> That is unless the regular tour event has some special >>>>>>> significance for him. Two things - his showing at the >>>>>>> Open Championship was a big indicator that his progress >>>>>>> is limited. Also, did you see how badly he was limping >>>>>>> when he showed up for that meeting with Rory and the >>>>>>> others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to be a >>>>>>> racist because I was not in love with Tiger like so many >>>>>>> others. Whatever. I should have given it more thought. >>>>>>> carbon wins if Tiger breaks the record. I only win when >>>>>>> carbon gives up. I pay when I lose - ask Annika1980 and >>>>>>> Rev Leroy. And given my age, carbon could run out the >>>>>>> clock.
    I don't recall Carbon calling you a racist...

    ...but you clearly are.

    Your standards for accusing athletes of inappropriate >>>>>> behaviour clearly changed with the colour of the athletes >>>>>> skin.

    Hilarious. You have called Pitts a racist before, years ago.
    .
    Yes. I've never claimed I didn't, so what point are you >>>> making, Dickhead?

    . At least you are admitting you have called Pitts a racist. So
    easy for those on the left to call others racist. Well, I did
    just a
    I don't call everyone racists...

    ...just the ones who are obviously racist.
    quick search on Pitts and his comments abou Tiger, I find >>> NOTHING overtly racist. Yes, Ken had issues with his on course
    behavior, but it was not related to race. Ken NEVER brought race
    into the discussion and I bet if Tiger was white, his comments
    wouid be identical. Please show us SPECIFIC comments that would
    say that Ken is a racist, otherwise once again you lose
    credibility. This is getting to be an ongoing issue with you >>> Grandpa.
    Except his complaints about behaviour by athletes were always >> about black athletes.

    Oh, and one more thing old man. Tom E made one comment about you
    appearance. You accused him of stalking you, after ONE comment.
    You
    Nope.
    have repeatedly called Ken a racist, is that not stalking. I >>> mean
    No, it's not.

    It's replying in a forum to messages he posted.
    how many times do we need you to remind us. What a crybaby you
    are. One post about your appearance, you accuse another of >>> stalking, yet
    Wrong.
    you can call others a racist over and over and that is not >>> stalking?
    Because it isn't.
    Incredible, you really are to be pitied.

    How many times do you have to remind us that you think Pitts is a
    racist? Does it not get old and repetitive after a while, or is this
    How many times are you going to argue I'm not entitled to my opinion,
    Dickhead?
    something you "get off" on. You have said it so many times, you
    insult your audience, do you not think we get it after you repeat it
    over and over. What the hell is wrong with you?

    I think he is a sweet decent man. I have never met him, but do know
    That says everything right there.
    of one former RSG poster that has, and this person had nothing but
    good things to say about him. I heard he is beyond generous, and a
    fun guy to play golf with, married to a very beautiful woman and is
    a devoted family man. These are concepts foreign to you, you have no
    wife, no kids. Maybe you are just jealous, otherwise you would let
    this racism BS go already, it is way past old. And even if he WAS
    racist, what good does it do to accuse him over and over, and remind
    us over and over. We get it you clown, we got it a long time ago.
    You enjoy calling me "dickhead" keep at it, anything to help fill a
    void in your life and give you a sense of importance.
    I've met him.

    He's a jerk.
    Hilarious! You MET him. Do you KNOW him, as a person. So based on a meeting or two at some RSG golf outings, we are to take you at your word that he's a jerk. How about some specifics, what has he done to you or done to others to deserve such
    a blanket characterization. And again, how many times do we have to hear your negative characterizations of the guy, we got it a long time ago. So other than your alleged racism and throwing a club which he denies, what in your world makes the guy a jerk?
    . You put the statement out there, now you need to back it up. Otherwise, once again you are shown to be a really bored and bitter blowhard.

    Oh, and one more think Grandpa. You said "He's a jerk". That is in the present tense. When is the last time you saw him? How many years? Whatever preoccupation you have with him, you still have not let it go. Wow!

    I never attended any of those RSG events, but Ken did sponsor one if I recall, and they all had a great time. If I am not mistaken, he won an event or two, and everyone was happy for him and said nice things about him and his game, based on
    the posts. So it seems others think Ken is a pretty cool stand up guy, you just seem to have some issue with him. Care to elaborate or are you at a loss of words old man? You made a statement, that he is a jerk. Have the gonads to tell him and the rest
    of us what he has done to deserve this. That after all these years, he has made such a strong impression on you, that he is still regarded as a "jerk". We will be waiting for an explanation. Maybe we can all agree that you have wore us all out with this
    bitterness and stupidity and need to let it go. We are talking years and years ago, and you still disparage the guy. Wow, are you to be pitied!

    Irving, you can get my email address by responding to one of my posts. Drop me a line and we can discuss possibly playing.

    I would say, there are some in RSG with whom I have been friendly who have reversed course about me. Rev Leroy had me as his guest at Colonial and I had him as a guest at my club, Woodhaven. Then he decided I was a bad person and he contacted
    the CIO where I was working to complain about me and my activities here. That ultimately led to me being terminated. Early example of cancel culture. Thanks a lot.

    Bobby Knight had me as his guest at Denton Country Club. Then we got into it over Eric Clapton, of all things. Bobby had a history in the music business in LA, maybe even part of the legendary Wrecking Crew. He had assigned Clapton to being
    nothing but a psychedelic rocker. Hard to imagine since Clapton won a Grammy for the album Unplugged. Bobby knew that but would not relent. We have not spoken since.

    Randy Brown and I had our moments but those seemed to be resolved during the two RSG Atlanta events. But, during the Iraq war his son enlisted in the military. As a veteran, I wished the son well and that he would serve with honor and
    distinction. Randy replied that he hated me. Guess he was not on board with the enlistment.

    Chris Bellomy and I rode together to the first RSG event I played in. RSG Texas in Glenrose. He was the first RSG person I ever met. Later on I made a statement that leftists who were causing trouble deserved to be baton whipped by the police.
    Somehow he decided that I was saying he should be whipped. Never did. But, he pointed that out, he blocked me on Facebook and we have never spoken since. He was even a member of my club for a while.

    As with Baker, I have had misunderstandings in this forum. Some causing me more than a little grief. Question, have you ever seen anyone side with Baker or say anything nice about him? I have not. Not even the anonymous trolls like Felicia. You
    have it right. Sad, bitter and lonely. Strokes from him are always hateful, especially for me.

    Ken
    Gosh, having five examples of people who changed their mind about you? Problem is no context. How does this statistic compare to how many RSG members who you’ve personally met & are still friendly with you? FYI, we
    could count “total met”, but would then have to subtract out the Ghosting,
    since that’s a thing too.


    -hh

    In over 25 years. I do not know how many. Two for sure. Robert Hamilton and John Pflum.
    David Laville also. He is coming up to DFW for golf soon.
    So that's five down and maybe three up. Not a particularly admirable ratio there, Ken.

    POST MERGE<<
    There's an old saying that says that when everyone around you are assholes,
    it's not them [alternatively: 'its probably you.].
    -hh

    Where did I say everyone?
    I merely was quoting an old adage that wasn't specifically about you.
    I was talking about Baker.
    You've already admitted that there's several others too who are not present to
    defend themselves: Rev Leroy, Bobby Knight, Randy Brown, Chris Bellomy, etc.


    -hh

    What do you have against me? I do not even know you.

    What do you mean maybe three? I am friends with all three of these men.

    As I stated, I have been messing with this group for over 25 years. There are a lot of people I certainly have gotten along with but I cannot remember the names. One is Annika1980. We have had some problems along the way because he is strongly pro-Tiger.
    But, I think we are OK now. Here is what he had to say about me after the 2nd RSG Atlanta. I lost a putt off for the win after an under par round. That's golf.

    I wanted to feel good about returning to this group. But I may go back to checking on carbon every few months.

    Ken

    +++++++++++++++++

    Annika1980
    Jul 14, 2002, 6:21:33 PM
    to
    First it was Greg Norman.
    Then Phil Mickelson came along.
    And now Ken Pitts can't get a friggin break.
    I had the pleasure of playing with Ken today and his play was terrific.
    I mean, you couldn't be more solid. He blasted drives like gun shots and hit some deft iron shots and chips, and was even solid with the flat stick. When
    he finished with his 1-under par 71, he looked to be a sure winner and the only question was gonna be whether the Coveted Peach Jacket would fit around him.
    I didn't give him much of a battle today or Ken might have gone much lower. He seemed content to just hit fairways and greens and wear my ass down, which he did with relative ease (5 & 3).

    How shocked Ken must have felt then when James Taylor, playing in the final group of the day, comes in with his own 71. It didn't surprise me too much since I had the pleasure of playing with James yesterday and I knew what he could do. He's the real deal. Skinny as a rail and can really bust it. Quite sickening.

    So they go to the customary putt-off to decide the winner of the CPJ and for the second year in a row Ken gets second place. A lesser man might complain about settling such an important event with a putt-off, but Ken never has.
    He's too much of a gentleman for that. I'm sure everyone involved would have liked to see a sudden-death playoff to settle the tie, but the logistics of the event prevents that. So a putt-off it is. I can't complain .... I won my
    Peach Jacket that way.

    So raise your glass to James Taylor, the Champion Golfer for 2002, and pour one up for Ken as well. Both of these guys are great players and I'm glad to call both of them my friends. Great playing, guys!

    -Bret ----> the artist known as Annika1980

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  • From KenPitts@21:1/5 to -hh on Fri Sep 23 08:41:10 2022
    On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 9:36:21 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
    On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 7:10:53 AM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 9:47:56 PM UTC-5, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 5:56:07 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 6:44:10 PM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:15:21 PM UTC-5, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:43:51 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 12:41, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:19:43 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 11:55, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:50:50 PM UTC-4, Alan >>> wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 14:31, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:33:58 PM UTC-4, Alan >>>>> wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 08:01, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM UTC-5, >>>>>>> Irving S wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I >>>>>>>> really loved watching him play, he was amazing in his >>>>>>>> prime. But, he will never surpass the record of Jack, >>>>>>>> as far as majors won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma to >>>>>>>> his body. He is strictly ceremonial at this point. Sad, >>>>>>>> but true.

    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident occurred.
    I think he will only show up at majors from here on out. >>>>>>> That is unless the regular tour event has some special >>>>>>> significance for him. Two things - his showing at the >>>>>>> Open Championship was a big indicator that his progress >>>>>>> is limited. Also, did you see how badly he was limping >>>>>>> when he showed up for that meeting with Rory and the >>>>>>> others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to be a >>>>>>> racist because I was not in love with Tiger like so many >>>>>>> others. Whatever. I should have given it more thought. >>>>>>> carbon wins if Tiger breaks the record. I only win when >>>>>>> carbon gives up. I pay when I lose - ask Annika1980 and >>>>>>> Rev Leroy. And given my age, carbon could run out the >>>>>>> clock.
    I don't recall Carbon calling you a racist...

    ...but you clearly are.

    Your standards for accusing athletes of inappropriate >>>>>> behaviour clearly changed with the colour of the athletes >>>>>> skin.

    Hilarious. You have called Pitts a racist before, years ago.
    .
    Yes. I've never claimed I didn't, so what point are you >>>> making, Dickhead?

    . At least you are admitting you have called Pitts a racist. So
    easy for those on the left to call others racist. Well, I did
    just a
    I don't call everyone racists...

    ...just the ones who are obviously racist.
    quick search on Pitts and his comments abou Tiger, I find >>> NOTHING overtly racist. Yes, Ken had issues with his on course
    behavior, but it was not related to race. Ken NEVER brought race
    into the discussion and I bet if Tiger was white, his comments
    wouid be identical. Please show us SPECIFIC comments that would
    say that Ken is a racist, otherwise once again you lose
    credibility. This is getting to be an ongoing issue with you >>> Grandpa.
    Except his complaints about behaviour by athletes were always >> about black athletes.

    Oh, and one more thing old man. Tom E made one comment about you
    appearance. You accused him of stalking you, after ONE comment.
    You
    Nope.
    have repeatedly called Ken a racist, is that not stalking. I >>> mean
    No, it's not.

    It's replying in a forum to messages he posted.
    how many times do we need you to remind us. What a crybaby you
    are. One post about your appearance, you accuse another of >>> stalking, yet
    Wrong.
    you can call others a racist over and over and that is not >>> stalking?
    Because it isn't.
    Incredible, you really are to be pitied.

    How many times do you have to remind us that you think Pitts is a
    racist? Does it not get old and repetitive after a while, or is this
    How many times are you going to argue I'm not entitled to my opinion,
    Dickhead?
    something you "get off" on. You have said it so many times, you
    insult your audience, do you not think we get it after you repeat it
    over and over. What the hell is wrong with you?

    I think he is a sweet decent man. I have never met him, but do know
    That says everything right there.
    of one former RSG poster that has, and this person had nothing but
    good things to say about him. I heard he is beyond generous, and a
    fun guy to play golf with, married to a very beautiful woman and is
    a devoted family man. These are concepts foreign to you, you have no
    wife, no kids. Maybe you are just jealous, otherwise you would let
    this racism BS go already, it is way past old. And even if he WAS
    racist, what good does it do to accuse him over and over, and remind
    us over and over. We get it you clown, we got it a long time ago.
    You enjoy calling me "dickhead" keep at it, anything to help fill a
    void in your life and give you a sense of importance.
    I've met him.

    He's a jerk.
    Hilarious! You MET him. Do you KNOW him, as a person. So based on a meeting or two at some RSG golf outings, we are to take you at your word that he's a jerk. How about some specifics, what has he done to you or done to others to deserve such
    a blanket characterization. And again, how many times do we have to hear your negative characterizations of the guy, we got it a long time ago. So other than your alleged racism and throwing a club which he denies, what in your world makes the guy a jerk?
    . You put the statement out there, now you need to back it up. Otherwise, once again you are shown to be a really bored and bitter blowhard.

    Oh, and one more think Grandpa. You said "He's a jerk". That is in the present tense. When is the last time you saw him? How many years? Whatever preoccupation you have with him, you still have not let it go. Wow!

    I never attended any of those RSG events, but Ken did sponsor one if I recall, and they all had a great time. If I am not mistaken, he won an event or two, and everyone was happy for him and said nice things about him and his game, based on
    the posts. So it seems others think Ken is a pretty cool stand up guy, you just seem to have some issue with him. Care to elaborate or are you at a loss of words old man? You made a statement, that he is a jerk. Have the gonads to tell him and the rest
    of us what he has done to deserve this. That after all these years, he has made such a strong impression on you, that he is still regarded as a "jerk". We will be waiting for an explanation. Maybe we can all agree that you have wore us all out with this
    bitterness and stupidity and need to let it go. We are talking years and years ago, and you still disparage the guy. Wow, are you to be pitied!

    Irving, you can get my email address by responding to one of my posts. Drop me a line and we can discuss possibly playing.

    I would say, there are some in RSG with whom I have been friendly who have reversed course about me. Rev Leroy had me as his guest at Colonial and I had him as a guest at my club, Woodhaven. Then he decided I was a bad person and he contacted
    the CIO where I was working to complain about me and my activities here. That ultimately led to me being terminated. Early example of cancel culture. Thanks a lot.

    Bobby Knight had me as his guest at Denton Country Club. Then we got into it over Eric Clapton, of all things. Bobby had a history in the music business in LA, maybe even part of the legendary Wrecking Crew. He had assigned Clapton to being
    nothing but a psychedelic rocker. Hard to imagine since Clapton won a Grammy for the album Unplugged. Bobby knew that but would not relent. We have not spoken since.

    Randy Brown and I had our moments but those seemed to be resolved during the two RSG Atlanta events. But, during the Iraq war his son enlisted in the military. As a veteran, I wished the son well and that he would serve with honor and
    distinction. Randy replied that he hated me. Guess he was not on board with the enlistment.

    Chris Bellomy and I rode together to the first RSG event I played in. RSG Texas in Glenrose. He was the first RSG person I ever met. Later on I made a statement that leftists who were causing trouble deserved to be baton whipped by the police.
    Somehow he decided that I was saying he should be whipped. Never did. But, he pointed that out, he blocked me on Facebook and we have never spoken since. He was even a member of my club for a while.

    As with Baker, I have had misunderstandings in this forum. Some causing me more than a little grief. Question, have you ever seen anyone side with Baker or say anything nice about him? I have not. Not even the anonymous trolls like Felicia. You
    have it right. Sad, bitter and lonely. Strokes from him are always hateful, especially for me.

    Ken
    Gosh, having five examples of people who changed their mind about you? Problem is no context. How does this statistic compare to how many RSG members who you’ve personally met & are still friendly with you? FYI, we
    could count “total met”, but would then have to subtract out the Ghosting,
    since that’s a thing too.


    -hh

    In over 25 years. I do not know how many. Two for sure. Robert Hamilton and John Pflum.
    David Laville also. He is coming up to DFW for golf soon.
    So that's five down and maybe three up. Not a particularly admirable ratio there, Ken.

    POST MERGE<<
    There's an old saying that says that when everyone around you are assholes,
    it's not them [alternatively: 'its probably you.].
    -hh

    Where did I say everyone?
    I merely was quoting an old adage that wasn't specifically about you.
    I was talking about Baker.
    You've already admitted that there's several others too who are not present to
    defend themselves: Rev Leroy, Bobby Knight, Randy Brown, Chris Bellomy, etc.


    -hh

    So, all four of those are my fault? If I am allowed an opinion, here is how I see it.

    Rev Leroy - I do not really know what caused him to turn on me like he did. At one time, he thought enough of me to have me and my friends as his guests at Colonial twice. Something soured him. I honestly do not know what it was. I do know he turned into
    a vindictive, argumentative, fat F when it came to me. And he contacted executives at my former employer and got the ball rolling toward me being fired. I might have retired from that company. With friends like that etc.....................

    Bobby Knight - we could have just disagreed about Eric Clapton and moved on. But, he was arrogant about his history in the music business. It was like I was supposed to just accept what he said without any regard to my own opinion. Sorry, I do not
    operate like that. Before this, I was actually thinking about inviting him to the member guest at my club. Oh well.

    Randy Brown - he went from zero to saying he hated me because I wished his son well on his entry into the military. Irrational. I do not miss him at all.

    Chris Bellomy - I did post that radical leftists (like Antifa and BLM - those who burn and loot) deserve the business end of a night stick. Or similar. He probably qualifies as a radical leftist but I did not say he deserved the baton. Only those who
    ransack our cities in the name of their foolish political agendas. He would not even discuss it with me. OK, see ya! Not a close friend so no real loss.

    https://tenor.com/search/well-bye-gifs

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to KenPitts on Fri Sep 23 11:03:32 2022
    On 2022-09-23 08:16, KenPitts wrote:
    On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 9:36:21 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
    On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 7:10:53 AM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 9:47:56 PM UTC-5, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 5:56:07 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 6:44:10 PM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote: >>>>>> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:15:21 PM UTC-5, Irving S wrote: >>>>>>> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:43:51 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2022-09-22 12:41, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:19:43 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 2022-09-22 11:55, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:50:50 PM UTC-4, Alan >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 14:31, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:33:58 PM UTC-4, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 08:01, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM UTC-5, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Irving S wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really loved watching him play, he was amazing in his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prime. But, he will never surpass the record of Jack, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as far as majors won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his body. He is strictly ceremonial at this point. Sad, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but true.

    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident occurred. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think he will only show up at majors from here on out. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is unless the regular tour event has some special >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> significance for him. Two things - his showing at the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Championship was a big indicator that his progress >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is limited. Also, did you see how badly he was limping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when he showed up for that meeting with Rory and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to be a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> racist because I was not in love with Tiger like so many >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others. Whatever. I should have given it more thought. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carbon wins if Tiger breaks the record. I only win when >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carbon gives up. I pay when I lose - ask Annika1980 and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rev Leroy. And given my age, carbon could run out the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clock.
    I don't recall Carbon calling you a racist...

    ...but you clearly are.

    Your standards for accusing athletes of inappropriate >>>>>>>>>>>>>> behaviour clearly changed with the colour of the athletes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> skin.

    Hilarious. You have called Pitts a racist before, years ago. >>>>>>>>>>>>> .
    Yes. I've never claimed I didn't, so what point are you >>>>>>>>>>>> making, Dickhead?

    . At least you are admitting you have called Pitts a racist. So >>>>>>>>>>> easy for those on the left to call others racist. Well, I did >>>>>>>>>>> just a
    I don't call everyone racists...

    ...just the ones who are obviously racist.
    quick search on Pitts and his comments abou Tiger, I find >>>>>>>>>>> NOTHING overtly racist. Yes, Ken had issues with his on course >>>>>>>>>>> behavior, but it was not related to race. Ken NEVER brought race >>>>>>>>>>> into the discussion and I bet if Tiger was white, his comments >>>>>>>>>>> wouid be identical. Please show us SPECIFIC comments that would >>>>>>>>>>> say that Ken is a racist, otherwise once again you lose
    credibility. This is getting to be an ongoing issue with you >>>>>>>>>>> Grandpa.
    Except his complaints about behaviour by athletes were always >>>>>>>>>> about black athletes.

    Oh, and one more thing old man. Tom E made one comment about you >>>>>>>>>>> appearance. You accused him of stalking you, after ONE comment. >>>>>>>>>>> You
    Nope.
    have repeatedly called Ken a racist, is that not stalking. I >>>>>>>>>>> mean
    No, it's not.

    It's replying in a forum to messages he posted.
    how many times do we need you to remind us. What a crybaby you >>>>>>>>>>> are. One post about your appearance, you accuse another of >>>>>>>>>>> stalking, yet
    Wrong.
    you can call others a racist over and over and that is not >>>>>>>>>>> stalking?
    Because it isn't.
    Incredible, you really are to be pitied.

    How many times do you have to remind us that you think Pitts is a >>>>>>>>> racist? Does it not get old and repetitive after a while, or is this >>>>>>>> How many times are you going to argue I'm not entitled to my opinion, >>>>>>>> Dickhead?
    something you "get off" on. You have said it so many times, you >>>>>>>>> insult your audience, do you not think we get it after you repeat it >>>>>>>>> over and over. What the hell is wrong with you?

    I think he is a sweet decent man. I have never met him, but do know >>>>>>>> That says everything right there.
    of one former RSG poster that has, and this person had nothing but >>>>>>>>> good things to say about him. I heard he is beyond generous, and a >>>>>>>>> fun guy to play golf with, married to a very beautiful woman and is >>>>>>>>> a devoted family man. These are concepts foreign to you, you have no >>>>>>>>> wife, no kids. Maybe you are just jealous, otherwise you would let >>>>>>>>> this racism BS go already, it is way past old. And even if he WAS >>>>>>>>> racist, what good does it do to accuse him over and over, and remind >>>>>>>>> us over and over. We get it you clown, we got it a long time ago. >>>>>>>>> You enjoy calling me "dickhead" keep at it, anything to help fill a >>>>>>>>> void in your life and give you a sense of importance.
    I've met him.

    He's a jerk.
    Hilarious! You MET him. Do you KNOW him, as a person. So based on a meeting or two at some RSG golf outings, we are to take you at your word that he's a jerk. How about some specifics, what has he done to you or done to others to deserve such a
    blanket characterization. And again, how many times do we have to hear your negative characterizations of the guy, we got it a long time ago. So other than your alleged racism and throwing a club which he denies, what in your world makes the guy a jerk?.
    You put the statement out there, now you need to back it up. Otherwise, once again you are shown to be a really bored and bitter blowhard.

    Oh, and one more think Grandpa. You said "He's a jerk". That is in the present tense. When is the last time you saw him? How many years? Whatever preoccupation you have with him, you still have not let it go. Wow!

    I never attended any of those RSG events, but Ken did sponsor one if I recall, and they all had a great time. If I am not mistaken, he won an event or two, and everyone was happy for him and said nice things about him and his game, based on the
    posts. So it seems others think Ken is a pretty cool stand up guy, you just seem to have some issue with him. Care to elaborate or are you at a loss of words old man? You made a statement, that he is a jerk. Have the gonads to tell him and the rest of us
    what he has done to deserve this. That after all these years, he has made such a strong impression on you, that he is still regarded as a "jerk". We will be waiting for an explanation. Maybe we can all agree that you have wore us all out with this
    bitterness and stupidity and need to let it go. We are talking years and years ago, and you still disparage the guy. Wow, are you to be pitied!

    Irving, you can get my email address by responding to one of my posts. Drop me a line and we can discuss possibly playing.

    I would say, there are some in RSG with whom I have been friendly who have reversed course about me. Rev Leroy had me as his guest at Colonial and I had him as a guest at my club, Woodhaven. Then he decided I was a bad person and he contacted the
    CIO where I was working to complain about me and my activities here. That ultimately led to me being terminated. Early example of cancel culture. Thanks a lot.

    Bobby Knight had me as his guest at Denton Country Club. Then we got into it over Eric Clapton, of all things. Bobby had a history in the music business in LA, maybe even part of the legendary Wrecking Crew. He had assigned Clapton to being
    nothing but a psychedelic rocker. Hard to imagine since Clapton won a Grammy for the album Unplugged. Bobby knew that but would not relent. We have not spoken since.

    Randy Brown and I had our moments but those seemed to be resolved during the two RSG Atlanta events. But, during the Iraq war his son enlisted in the military. As a veteran, I wished the son well and that he would serve with honor and distinction.
    Randy replied that he hated me. Guess he was not on board with the enlistment. >>>>>>
    Chris Bellomy and I rode together to the first RSG event I played in. RSG Texas in Glenrose. He was the first RSG person I ever met. Later on I made a statement that leftists who were causing trouble deserved to be baton whipped by the police.
    Somehow he decided that I was saying he should be whipped. Never did. But, he pointed that out, he blocked me on Facebook and we have never spoken since. He was even a member of my club for a while.

    As with Baker, I have had misunderstandings in this forum. Some causing me more than a little grief. Question, have you ever seen anyone side with Baker or say anything nice about him? I have not. Not even the anonymous trolls like Felicia. You
    have it right. Sad, bitter and lonely. Strokes from him are always hateful, especially for me.

    Ken
    Gosh, having five examples of people who changed their mind about you? >>>>> Problem is no context. How does this statistic compare to how many RSG >>>>> members who you’ve personally met & are still friendly with you? FYI, we
    could count “total met”, but would then have to subtract out the Ghosting,
    since that’s a thing too.


    -hh

    In over 25 years. I do not know how many. Two for sure. Robert Hamilton and John Pflum.
    David Laville also. He is coming up to DFW for golf soon.
    So that's five down and maybe three up. Not a particularly admirable ratio there, Ken.

    POST MERGE<<
    There's an old saying that says that when everyone around you are assholes,
    it's not them [alternatively: 'its probably you.].
    -hh

    Where did I say everyone?
    I merely was quoting an old adage that wasn't specifically about you.
    I was talking about Baker.
    You've already admitted that there's several others too who are not present to
    defend themselves: Rev Leroy, Bobby Knight, Randy Brown, Chris Bellomy, etc. >>

    -hh

    What do you have against me? I do not even know you.

    What do you mean maybe three? I am friends with all three of these men.

    As I stated, I have been messing with this group for over 25 years. There are a lot of people I certainly have gotten along with but I cannot remember the names. One is Annika1980. We have had some problems along the way because he is strongly pro-
    Tiger. But, I think we are OK now. Here is what he had to say about me after the 2nd RSG Atlanta. I lost a putt off for the win after an under par round. That's golf.

    I wanted to feel good about returning to this group. But I may go back to checking on carbon every few months.

    Ken

    +++++++++++++++++

    Annika1980
    Jul 14, 2002, 6:21:33 PM
    to
    First it was Greg Norman.
    Then Phil Mickelson came along.
    And now Ken Pitts can't get a friggin break.
    I had the pleasure of playing with Ken today and his play was terrific.
    I mean, you couldn't be more solid. He blasted drives like gun shots and hit some deft iron shots and chips, and was even solid with the flat stick. When he finished with his 1-under par 71, he looked to be a sure winner and the only
    question was gonna be whether the Coveted Peach Jacket would fit around him. I didn't give him much of a battle today or Ken might have gone much lower. He
    seemed content to just hit fairways and greens and wear my ass down, which he did with relative ease (5 & 3).

    How shocked Ken must have felt then when James Taylor, playing in the final group of the day, comes in with his own 71. It didn't surprise me too much since I had the pleasure of playing with James yesterday and I knew what he could do. He's the real deal. Skinny as a rail and can really bust it. Quite sickening.

    So they go to the customary putt-off to decide the winner of the CPJ and for the second year in a row Ken gets second place. A lesser man might complain about settling such an important event with a putt-off, but Ken never has. He's too much of a gentleman for that. I'm sure everyone involved would have liked to see a sudden-death playoff to settle the tie, but the logistics of the
    event prevents that. So a putt-off it is. I can't complain .... I won my Peach Jacket that way.

    So raise your glass to James Taylor, the Champion Golfer for 2002, and pour one
    up for Ken as well. Both of these guys are great players and I'm glad to call both of them my friends. Great playing, guys!

    -Bret ----> the artist known as Annika1980

    Interesting you have to reach so far back.

    Would you care for me to quote something that is farther from 2002 than
    it is from today?

    I can quote Annika1980...

    ...or Dan Driscoll...

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to KenPitts on Fri Sep 23 11:04:46 2022
    On 2022-09-23 08:41, KenPitts wrote:
    On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 9:36:21 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
    On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 7:10:53 AM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 9:47:56 PM UTC-5, KenPitts
    wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 5:56:07 PM UTC-5, -hh
    wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 6:44:10 PM UTC-4, KenPitts
    wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:15:21 PM UTC-5, Irving
    S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:43:51 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 12:41, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:19:43 PM UTC-4,
    Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 11:55, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:50:50 PM
    UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 14:31, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:33:58
    PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 08:01, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at
    8:53:28 AM UTC-5, Irving S wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad,
    because I really loved watching him
    play, he was amazing in his prime. But,
    he will never surpass the record of
    Jack, as far as majors won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too
    much trauma to his body. He is strictly
    ceremonial at this point. Sad, but
    true.

    I was pretty sure he was done when the
    accident occurred. I think he will only
    show up at majors from here on out. That
    is unless the regular tour event has some
    special significance for him. Two things
    - his showing at the Open Championship
    was a big indicator that his progress is
    limited. Also, did you see how badly he
    was limping when he showed up for that
    meeting with Rory and the others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing
    me to be a racist because I was not in
    love with Tiger like so many others.
    Whatever. I should have given it more
    thought. carbon wins if Tiger breaks the
    record. I only win when carbon gives up.
    I pay when I lose - ask Annika1980 and
    Rev Leroy. And given my age, carbon could
    run out the clock.
    I don't recall Carbon calling you a
    racist...

    ...but you clearly are.

    Your standards for accusing athletes of
    inappropriate behaviour clearly changed
    with the colour of the athletes skin.

    Hilarious. You have called Pitts a racist
    before, years ago. .
    Yes. I've never claimed I didn't, so what point
    are you making, Dickhead?

    . At least you are admitting you have called
    Pitts a racist. So easy for those on the left to
    call others racist. Well, I did just a
    I don't call everyone racists...

    ...just the ones who are obviously racist.
    quick search on Pitts and his comments abou
    Tiger, I find NOTHING overtly racist. Yes, Ken
    had issues with his on course behavior, but it
    was not related to race. Ken NEVER brought race
    into the discussion and I bet if Tiger was white,
    his comments wouid be identical. Please show us
    SPECIFIC comments that would say that Ken is a
    racist, otherwise once again you lose
    credibility. This is getting to be an ongoing
    issue with you Grandpa.
    Except his complaints about behaviour by athletes
    were always about black athletes.

    Oh, and one more thing old man. Tom E made one
    comment about you appearance. You accused him of
    stalking you, after ONE comment. You
    Nope.
    have repeatedly called Ken a racist, is that not
    stalking. I mean
    No, it's not.

    It's replying in a forum to messages he posted.
    how many times do we need you to remind us. What
    a crybaby you are. One post about your
    appearance, you accuse another of stalking, yet
    Wrong.
    you can call others a racist over and over and
    that is not stalking?
    Because it isn't.
    Incredible, you really are to be pitied.

    How many times do you have to remind us that you
    think Pitts is a racist? Does it not get old and
    repetitive after a while, or is this
    How many times are you going to argue I'm not entitled
    to my opinion, Dickhead?
    something you "get off" on. You have said it so many
    times, you insult your audience, do you not think we
    get it after you repeat it over and over. What the
    hell is wrong with you?

    I think he is a sweet decent man. I have never met
    him, but do know
    That says everything right there.
    of one former RSG poster that has, and this person
    had nothing but good things to say about him. I heard
    he is beyond generous, and a fun guy to play golf
    with, married to a very beautiful woman and is a
    devoted family man. These are concepts foreign to
    you, you have no wife, no kids. Maybe you are just
    jealous, otherwise you would let this racism BS go
    already, it is way past old. And even if he WAS
    racist, what good does it do to accuse him over and
    over, and remind us over and over. We get it you
    clown, we got it a long time ago. You enjoy calling
    me "dickhead" keep at it, anything to help fill a
    void in your life and give you a sense of
    importance.
    I've met him.

    He's a jerk.
    Hilarious! You MET him. Do you KNOW him, as a person. So
    based on a meeting or two at some RSG golf outings, we
    are to take you at your word that he's a jerk. How about
    some specifics, what has he done to you or done to others
    to deserve such a blanket characterization. And again,
    how many times do we have to hear your negative
    characterizations of the guy, we got it a long time ago.
    So other than your alleged racism and throwing a club
    which he denies, what in your world makes the guy a
    jerk?. You put the statement out there, now you need to
    back it up. Otherwise, once again you are shown to be a
    really bored and bitter blowhard.

    Oh, and one more think Grandpa. You said "He's a jerk".
    That is in the present tense. When is the last time you
    saw him? How many years? Whatever preoccupation you have
    with him, you still have not let it go. Wow!

    I never attended any of those RSG events, but Ken did
    sponsor one if I recall, and they all had a great time.
    If I am not mistaken, he won an event or two, and
    everyone was happy for him and said nice things about him
    and his game, based on the posts. So it seems others
    think Ken is a pretty cool stand up guy, you just seem to
    have some issue with him. Care to elaborate or are you at
    a loss of words old man? You made a statement, that he is
    a jerk. Have the gonads to tell him and the rest of us
    what he has done to deserve this. That after all these
    years, he has made such a strong impression on you, that
    he is still regarded as a "jerk". We will be waiting for
    an explanation. Maybe we can all agree that you have wore
    us all out with this bitterness and stupidity and need to
    let it go. We are talking years and years ago, and you
    still disparage the guy. Wow, are you to be pitied!

    Irving, you can get my email address by responding to one
    of my posts. Drop me a line and we can discuss possibly
    playing.

    I would say, there are some in RSG with whom I have been
    friendly who have reversed course about me. Rev Leroy had
    me as his guest at Colonial and I had him as a guest at my
    club, Woodhaven. Then he decided I was a bad person and he
    contacted the CIO where I was working to complain about me
    and my activities here. That ultimately led to me being
    terminated. Early example of cancel culture. Thanks a lot.

    Bobby Knight had me as his guest at Denton Country Club.
    Then we got into it over Eric Clapton, of all things. Bobby
    had a history in the music business in LA, maybe even part
    of the legendary Wrecking Crew. He had assigned Clapton to
    being nothing but a psychedelic rocker. Hard to imagine
    since Clapton won a Grammy for the album Unplugged. Bobby
    knew that but would not relent. We have not spoken since.

    Randy Brown and I had our moments but those seemed to be
    resolved during the two RSG Atlanta events. But, during the
    Iraq war his son enlisted in the military. As a veteran, I
    wished the son well and that he would serve with honor and
    distinction. Randy replied that he hated me. Guess he was
    not on board with the enlistment.

    Chris Bellomy and I rode together to the first RSG event I
    played in. RSG Texas in Glenrose. He was the first RSG
    person I ever met. Later on I made a statement that
    leftists who were causing trouble deserved to be baton
    whipped by the police. Somehow he decided that I was saying
    he should be whipped. Never did. But, he pointed that out,
    he blocked me on Facebook and we have never spoken since.
    He was even a member of my club for a while.

    As with Baker, I have had misunderstandings in this forum.
    Some causing me more than a little grief. Question, have
    you ever seen anyone side with Baker or say anything nice
    about him? I have not. Not even the anonymous trolls like
    Felicia. You have it right. Sad, bitter and lonely. Strokes
    from him are always hateful, especially for me.

    Ken
    Gosh, having five examples of people who changed their mind
    about you? Problem is no context. How does this statistic
    compare to how many RSG members who you’ve personally met &
    are still friendly with you? FYI, we could count “total met”,
    but would then have to subtract out the Ghosting, since
    that’s a thing too.


    -hh

    In over 25 years. I do not know how many. Two for sure. Robert
    Hamilton and John Pflum.
    David Laville also. He is coming up to DFW for golf soon.
    So that's five down and maybe three up. Not a particularly
    admirable ratio there, Ken.

    POST MERGE<< There's an old saying that says that when everyone
    around you are assholes, it's not them [alternatively: 'its
    probably you.]. -hh

    Where did I say everyone?
    I merely was quoting an old adage that wasn't specifically about
    you.
    I was talking about Baker.
    You've already admitted that there's several others too who are not
    present to defend themselves: Rev Leroy, Bobby Knight, Randy Brown,
    Chris Bellomy, etc.


    -hh

    So, all four of those are my fault? If I am allowed an opinion, here
    is how I see it.

    Rev Leroy - I do not really know what caused him to turn on me like
    he did. At one time, he thought enough of me to have me and my
    friends as his guests at Colonial twice. Something soured him. I
    honestly do not know what it was. I do know he turned into a
    vindictive, argumentative, fat F when it came to me. And he contacted executives at my former employer and got the ball rolling toward me
    being fired. I might have retired from that company. With friends
    like that etc.....................

    Bobby Knight - we could have just disagreed about Eric Clapton and
    moved on. But, he was arrogant about his history in the music
    business. It was like I was supposed to just accept what he said
    without any regard to my own opinion. Sorry, I do not operate like
    that. Before this, I was actually thinking about inviting him to the
    member guest at my club. Oh well.

    Randy Brown - he went from zero to saying he hated me because I
    wished his son well on his entry into the military. Irrational. I do
    not miss him at all.

    Chris Bellomy - I did post that radical leftists (like Antifa and BLM
    - those who burn and loot) deserve the business end of a night stick.
    Or similar. He probably qualifies as a radical leftist but I did not
    say he deserved the baton. Only those who ransack our cities in the
    name of their foolish political agendas. He would not even discuss it
    with me. OK, see ya! Not a close friend so no real loss.

    https://tenor.com/search/well-bye-gifs

    Someone asked what traits of your make me dislike you.

    Among the ones already mentioned...

    ...you're also a whining baby.

    Nothing is ever your fault!

    Everyone picks on you!

    Weaaaaaaah!

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  • From Irving S@21:1/5 to KenPitts on Fri Sep 23 13:11:40 2022
    On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 7:10:53 AM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 9:47:56 PM UTC-5, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 5:56:07 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 6:44:10 PM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:15:21 PM UTC-5, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:43:51 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 12:41, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:19:43 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 11:55, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:50:50 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 14:31, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:33:58 PM UTC-4, Alan >>>>> wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 08:01, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM UTC-5, >>>>>>> Irving S wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I
    really loved watching him play, he was amazing in his >>>>>>>> prime. But, he will never surpass the record of Jack, >>>>>>>> as far as majors won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma to >>>>>>>> his body. He is strictly ceremonial at this point. Sad, >>>>>>>> but true.

    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident occurred. >>>>>>> I think he will only show up at majors from here on out. >>>>>>> That is unless the regular tour event has some special >>>>>>> significance for him. Two things - his showing at the >>>>>>> Open Championship was a big indicator that his progress >>>>>>> is limited. Also, did you see how badly he was limping >>>>>>> when he showed up for that meeting with Rory and the >>>>>>> others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to be a >>>>>>> racist because I was not in love with Tiger like so many >>>>>>> others. Whatever. I should have given it more thought. >>>>>>> carbon wins if Tiger breaks the record. I only win when >>>>>>> carbon gives up. I pay when I lose - ask Annika1980 and >>>>>>> Rev Leroy. And given my age, carbon could run out the >>>>>>> clock.
    I don't recall Carbon calling you a racist...

    ...but you clearly are.

    Your standards for accusing athletes of inappropriate >>>>>> behaviour clearly changed with the colour of the athletes >>>>>> skin.

    Hilarious. You have called Pitts a racist before, years ago. >>>>> .
    Yes. I've never claimed I didn't, so what point are you
    making, Dickhead?

    . At least you are admitting you have called Pitts a racist. So
    easy for those on the left to call others racist. Well, I did >>> just a
    I don't call everyone racists...

    ...just the ones who are obviously racist.
    quick search on Pitts and his comments abou Tiger, I find
    NOTHING overtly racist. Yes, Ken had issues with his on course >>> behavior, but it was not related to race. Ken NEVER brought race
    into the discussion and I bet if Tiger was white, his comments >>> wouid be identical. Please show us SPECIFIC comments that would
    say that Ken is a racist, otherwise once again you lose
    credibility. This is getting to be an ongoing issue with you >>> Grandpa.
    Except his complaints about behaviour by athletes were always >> about black athletes.

    Oh, and one more thing old man. Tom E made one comment about you
    appearance. You accused him of stalking you, after ONE comment.
    You
    Nope.
    have repeatedly called Ken a racist, is that not stalking. I >>> mean
    No, it's not.

    It's replying in a forum to messages he posted.
    how many times do we need you to remind us. What a crybaby you >>> are. One post about your appearance, you accuse another of
    stalking, yet
    Wrong.
    you can call others a racist over and over and that is not
    stalking?
    Because it isn't.
    Incredible, you really are to be pitied.

    How many times do you have to remind us that you think Pitts is a
    racist? Does it not get old and repetitive after a while, or is this
    How many times are you going to argue I'm not entitled to my opinion,
    Dickhead?
    something you "get off" on. You have said it so many times, you insult your audience, do you not think we get it after you repeat it
    over and over. What the hell is wrong with you?

    I think he is a sweet decent man. I have never met him, but do know
    That says everything right there.
    of one former RSG poster that has, and this person had nothing but
    good things to say about him. I heard he is beyond generous, and a
    fun guy to play golf with, married to a very beautiful woman and is
    a devoted family man. These are concepts foreign to you, you have no
    wife, no kids. Maybe you are just jealous, otherwise you would let
    this racism BS go already, it is way past old. And even if he WAS
    racist, what good does it do to accuse him over and over, and remind
    us over and over. We get it you clown, we got it a long time ago.
    You enjoy calling me "dickhead" keep at it, anything to help fill a
    void in your life and give you a sense of importance.
    I've met him.

    He's a jerk.
    Hilarious! You MET him. Do you KNOW him, as a person. So based on a meeting or two at some RSG golf outings, we are to take you at your word that he's a jerk. How about some specifics, what has he done to you or done to others to deserve such a
    blanket characterization. And again, how many times do we have to hear your negative characterizations of the guy, we got it a long time ago. So other than your alleged racism and throwing a club which he denies, what in your world makes the guy a jerk?.
    You put the statement out there, now you need to back it up. Otherwise, once again you are shown to be a really bored and bitter blowhard.

    Oh, and one more think Grandpa. You said "He's a jerk". That is in the present tense. When is the last time you saw him? How many years? Whatever preoccupation you have with him, you still have not let it go. Wow!

    I never attended any of those RSG events, but Ken did sponsor one if I recall, and they all had a great time. If I am not mistaken, he won an event or two, and everyone was happy for him and said nice things about him and his game, based on the
    posts. So it seems others think Ken is a pretty cool stand up guy, you just seem to have some issue with him. Care to elaborate or are you at a loss of words old man? You made a statement, that he is a jerk. Have the gonads to tell him and the rest of us
    what he has done to deserve this. That after all these years, he has made such a strong impression on you, that he is still regarded as a "jerk". We will be waiting for an explanation. Maybe we can all agree that you have wore us all out with this
    bitterness and stupidity and need to let it go. We are talking years and years ago, and you still disparage the guy. Wow, are you to be pitied!

    Irving, you can get my email address by responding to one of my posts. Drop me a line and we can discuss possibly playing.

    I would say, there are some in RSG with whom I have been friendly who have reversed course about me. Rev Leroy had me as his guest at Colonial and I had him as a guest at my club, Woodhaven. Then he decided I was a bad person and he contacted the
    CIO where I was working to complain about me and my activities here. That ultimately led to me being terminated. Early example of cancel culture. Thanks a lot.

    Bobby Knight had me as his guest at Denton Country Club. Then we got into it over Eric Clapton, of all things. Bobby had a history in the music business in LA, maybe even part of the legendary Wrecking Crew. He had assigned Clapton to being
    nothing but a psychedelic rocker. Hard to imagine since Clapton won a Grammy for the album Unplugged. Bobby knew that but would not relent. We have not spoken since.

    Randy Brown and I had our moments but those seemed to be resolved during the two RSG Atlanta events. But, during the Iraq war his son enlisted in the military. As a veteran, I wished the son well and that he would serve with honor and distinction.
    Randy replied that he hated me. Guess he was not on board with the enlistment.

    Chris Bellomy and I rode together to the first RSG event I played in. RSG Texas in Glenrose. He was the first RSG person I ever met. Later on I made a statement that leftists who were causing trouble deserved to be baton whipped by the police.
    Somehow he decided that I was saying he should be whipped. Never did. But, he pointed that out, he blocked me on Facebook and we have never spoken since. He was even a member of my club for a while.

    As with Baker, I have had misunderstandings in this forum. Some causing me more than a little grief. Question, have you ever seen anyone side with Baker or say anything nice about him? I have not. Not even the anonymous trolls like Felicia. You
    have it right. Sad, bitter and lonely. Strokes from him are always hateful, especially for me.

    Ken
    Gosh, having five examples of people who changed their mind about you? Problem is no context. How does this statistic compare to how many RSG members who you’ve personally met & are still friendly with you? FYI, we
    could count “total met”, but would then have to subtract out the Ghosting,
    since that’s a thing too.


    -hh
    In over 25 years. I do not know how many. Two for sure. Robert Hamilton and John Pflum.
    David Laville also. He is coming up to DFW for golf soon.

    Ken

    This whole back and forth is absolutely hilarious, yet equally sad.

    Ken, I suggested to you a few days ago to ignore this homely reptile. And what do you do, you do just the opposite and feed into it. You and him are going back on things that were years and years ago, like who cares?. Do either of you have a fucking
    life, to obsess about who said what and when in the past. None of us reading this BS cares, seems both of you do. I can understand the reptile, he has no wife, no kids, he lives in an apartment with no property to maintain. That gives him plenty of
    time. He never finished college and talk about embarasing, this clown actually went on youtube on the urgings of others and counted off money. Now that is the work of a fool and tool. This is a guy with hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of posts,
    my god who has the kind of time and desire, with all the other things life can offer. Well, if you are bored and hunger to attenion, why not. The reptile is a senior citizen, what does he have to show in the end for all these posts. NADA!

    Now Ken, the reptile has said some amazing things about you. He said you have NO personal integrity. He has said he has not seen anything good about you. He has said over and over you .
    you are a racist. He makes this statement with nothing concrete, it is just his opinion. Well Ken, who gives a shit what this clown thinks. I can assure you that no one cares. We can form our own opinion, despite what this creep says. To say
    you have NO personal integrity wow, what a statement. It is absurd, mean spirited, and we all know that there are truly bad people out there with NO personal integrity, that sure is not you. Ken, you are a great guy I am sure, and a quick search of
    posts in the pasts shows many people like you and respect you for your golfing prowess. I do know someone that knows you, and he has nothing but good things to say after meeting you several times at RSG outings. You have a wonderful life with your
    lovely spouse, others have spoken well about you for your generosity, sense of humor, and great demeanor on the golf course. If you have pissed off some people along the way, fuck them. At least you said what was on your mind, and if they talk bad of
    you or don't want you as a friend, well who needs them anyway. You have views that maybe have offended others, who gives a shit. I don't live for the approval of this homely old reptile or anyone in this world. Could care less what anyone thinks.
    especially some old clown in a foreign socialist shithole.

    Ken, welcome back to this group and I am urging you to stay. You love our great game, and you have conviction with your beliefs, you stick with them. You do not answer to some lonely homely turd that lives hundreds upon hundreds of miles away. This
    creature is nothing to you, just a bored lonely old troll with a lot of time on his hands and a chip on his shoulder for you.
    I have no doubt the reptile is salivating seeing you respond to his ridiculous accusations and characterizations of you. It worked, he put the same shit out there that he did before, and you took the bait again. Ken, you are better than that. You are
    a good person, what this clown or anyone else in this dying forum things should mean nothing. What matters is what you think about yourself, what others close to you think about you. The only people that really matter in this world are our families,
    our true friends, neighbors, and co-workers, screw everyone else, especially an insignificant attention seeking troll from a shithole foreign country. Who gives a shit what some homely old man sitting in his apartment alone thinks. If you really do,
    get help dude. I think you can do better than this, and YOU WILL!

    I live just outside Houston. I have your email, I go up to the DFW area several times a year to visit one of our manufacturing sites up there. Maybe one day I will have the privalege to meet you and play a round. I am sure I will not find a racist, a
    man with NO integrity. The old reptile says he has seen NOTHING good about you, well I bet I will find if we ever meet a LOT of good about you. To say there is NOTHING good about you, increidble, like what the hell did you do to deserve a blanket
    statement like that. What this clown thinks is insignificant. He becomes significant only if you let him. Ignore this creep, that will get under his skin more than anything else. And continue to post here and contribute and be honest about your
    views. You are you, be proud of who you are, and fuck those that don't approve, like who cares.

    I am gonna get the camper ready, heading out soon for the weekend. No golf for me, just chilling with the family and the dogs. I will check back next week, you do not take anything personally this reptile says, remember the source. I want to see you
    post, and stand by what you say, and never apologize. You are a better man. I hope you will stay, and contribute. Do not let anyone run you away, you are a better man than that. I hope one day we can meet, but I promise you we will not discuss for
    one minute this reptilian homely creep. I refuse to bring him up, and if we do we will not ever meet again. We will talk about golf, our families, and good stuff. If we waste one minute even thinking about this drama seeking creep, or creeps like
    him. that is one minute we cannot get back. Life is too short my friend to let creeps get under our skin. Let them spread their unhappiness elsewhere, they will always be seeking out their next target. All the best and have a great weekend!

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  • From KenPitts@21:1/5 to Irving S on Fri Sep 23 13:37:30 2022
    On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 3:11:42 PM UTC-5, Irving S wrote:
    On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 7:10:53 AM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 9:47:56 PM UTC-5, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 5:56:07 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 6:44:10 PM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:15:21 PM UTC-5, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:43:51 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 12:41, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:19:43 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 11:55, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:50:50 PM UTC-4, Alan >>> wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 14:31, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:33:58 PM UTC-4, Alan >>>>> wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 08:01, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM UTC-5, >>>>>>> Irving S wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I >>>>>>>> really loved watching him play, he was amazing in his >>>>>>>> prime. But, he will never surpass the record of Jack, >>>>>>>> as far as majors won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma to >>>>>>>> his body. He is strictly ceremonial at this point. Sad, >>>>>>>> but true.

    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident occurred.
    I think he will only show up at majors from here on out. >>>>>>> That is unless the regular tour event has some special >>>>>>> significance for him. Two things - his showing at the >>>>>>> Open Championship was a big indicator that his progress >>>>>>> is limited. Also, did you see how badly he was limping >>>>>>> when he showed up for that meeting with Rory and the >>>>>>> others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to be a >>>>>>> racist because I was not in love with Tiger like so many >>>>>>> others. Whatever. I should have given it more thought. >>>>>>> carbon wins if Tiger breaks the record. I only win when >>>>>>> carbon gives up. I pay when I lose - ask Annika1980 and >>>>>>> Rev Leroy. And given my age, carbon could run out the >>>>>>> clock.
    I don't recall Carbon calling you a racist...

    ...but you clearly are.

    Your standards for accusing athletes of inappropriate >>>>>> behaviour clearly changed with the colour of the athletes >>>>>> skin.

    Hilarious. You have called Pitts a racist before, years ago.
    .
    Yes. I've never claimed I didn't, so what point are you >>>> making, Dickhead?

    . At least you are admitting you have called Pitts a racist. So
    easy for those on the left to call others racist. Well, I did
    just a
    I don't call everyone racists...

    ...just the ones who are obviously racist.
    quick search on Pitts and his comments abou Tiger, I find >>> NOTHING overtly racist. Yes, Ken had issues with his on course
    behavior, but it was not related to race. Ken NEVER brought race
    into the discussion and I bet if Tiger was white, his comments
    wouid be identical. Please show us SPECIFIC comments that would
    say that Ken is a racist, otherwise once again you lose
    credibility. This is getting to be an ongoing issue with you >>> Grandpa.
    Except his complaints about behaviour by athletes were always >> about black athletes.

    Oh, and one more thing old man. Tom E made one comment about you
    appearance. You accused him of stalking you, after ONE comment.
    You
    Nope.
    have repeatedly called Ken a racist, is that not stalking. I >>> mean
    No, it's not.

    It's replying in a forum to messages he posted.
    how many times do we need you to remind us. What a crybaby you
    are. One post about your appearance, you accuse another of >>> stalking, yet
    Wrong.
    you can call others a racist over and over and that is not >>> stalking?
    Because it isn't.
    Incredible, you really are to be pitied.

    How many times do you have to remind us that you think Pitts is a
    racist? Does it not get old and repetitive after a while, or is this
    How many times are you going to argue I'm not entitled to my opinion,
    Dickhead?
    something you "get off" on. You have said it so many times, you
    insult your audience, do you not think we get it after you repeat it
    over and over. What the hell is wrong with you?

    I think he is a sweet decent man. I have never met him, but do know
    That says everything right there.
    of one former RSG poster that has, and this person had nothing but
    good things to say about him. I heard he is beyond generous, and a
    fun guy to play golf with, married to a very beautiful woman and is
    a devoted family man. These are concepts foreign to you, you have no
    wife, no kids. Maybe you are just jealous, otherwise you would let
    this racism BS go already, it is way past old. And even if he WAS
    racist, what good does it do to accuse him over and over, and remind
    us over and over. We get it you clown, we got it a long time ago.
    You enjoy calling me "dickhead" keep at it, anything to help fill a
    void in your life and give you a sense of importance.
    I've met him.

    He's a jerk.
    Hilarious! You MET him. Do you KNOW him, as a person. So based on a meeting or two at some RSG golf outings, we are to take you at your word that he's a jerk. How about some specifics, what has he done to you or done to others to deserve such
    a blanket characterization. And again, how many times do we have to hear your negative characterizations of the guy, we got it a long time ago. So other than your alleged racism and throwing a club which he denies, what in your world makes the guy a jerk?
    . You put the statement out there, now you need to back it up. Otherwise, once again you are shown to be a really bored and bitter blowhard.

    Oh, and one more think Grandpa. You said "He's a jerk". That is in the present tense. When is the last time you saw him? How many years? Whatever preoccupation you have with him, you still have not let it go. Wow!

    I never attended any of those RSG events, but Ken did sponsor one if I recall, and they all had a great time. If I am not mistaken, he won an event or two, and everyone was happy for him and said nice things about him and his game, based on
    the posts. So it seems others think Ken is a pretty cool stand up guy, you just seem to have some issue with him. Care to elaborate or are you at a loss of words old man? You made a statement, that he is a jerk. Have the gonads to tell him and the rest
    of us what he has done to deserve this. That after all these years, he has made such a strong impression on you, that he is still regarded as a "jerk". We will be waiting for an explanation. Maybe we can all agree that you have wore us all out with this
    bitterness and stupidity and need to let it go. We are talking years and years ago, and you still disparage the guy. Wow, are you to be pitied!

    Irving, you can get my email address by responding to one of my posts. Drop me a line and we can discuss possibly playing.

    I would say, there are some in RSG with whom I have been friendly who have reversed course about me. Rev Leroy had me as his guest at Colonial and I had him as a guest at my club, Woodhaven. Then he decided I was a bad person and he contacted
    the CIO where I was working to complain about me and my activities here. That ultimately led to me being terminated. Early example of cancel culture. Thanks a lot.

    Bobby Knight had me as his guest at Denton Country Club. Then we got into it over Eric Clapton, of all things. Bobby had a history in the music business in LA, maybe even part of the legendary Wrecking Crew. He had assigned Clapton to being
    nothing but a psychedelic rocker. Hard to imagine since Clapton won a Grammy for the album Unplugged. Bobby knew that but would not relent. We have not spoken since.

    Randy Brown and I had our moments but those seemed to be resolved during the two RSG Atlanta events. But, during the Iraq war his son enlisted in the military. As a veteran, I wished the son well and that he would serve with honor and
    distinction. Randy replied that he hated me. Guess he was not on board with the enlistment.

    Chris Bellomy and I rode together to the first RSG event I played in. RSG Texas in Glenrose. He was the first RSG person I ever met. Later on I made a statement that leftists who were causing trouble deserved to be baton whipped by the police.
    Somehow he decided that I was saying he should be whipped. Never did. But, he pointed that out, he blocked me on Facebook and we have never spoken since. He was even a member of my club for a while.

    As with Baker, I have had misunderstandings in this forum. Some causing me more than a little grief. Question, have you ever seen anyone side with Baker or say anything nice about him? I have not. Not even the anonymous trolls like Felicia. You
    have it right. Sad, bitter and lonely. Strokes from him are always hateful, especially for me.

    Ken
    Gosh, having five examples of people who changed their mind about you? Problem is no context. How does this statistic compare to how many RSG members who you’ve personally met & are still friendly with you? FYI, we
    could count “total met”, but would then have to subtract out the Ghosting,
    since that’s a thing too.


    -hh
    In over 25 years. I do not know how many. Two for sure. Robert Hamilton and John Pflum.
    David Laville also. He is coming up to DFW for golf soon.

    Ken
    This whole back and forth is absolutely hilarious, yet equally sad.

    Ken, I suggested to you a few days ago to ignore this homely reptile. And what do you do, you do just the opposite and feed into it. You and him are going back on things that were years and years ago, like who cares?. Do either of you have a fucking
    life, to obsess about who said what and when in the past. None of us reading this BS cares, seems both of you do. I can understand the reptile, he has no wife, no kids, he lives in an apartment with no property to maintain. That gives him plenty of time.
    He never finished college and talk about embarasing, this clown actually went on youtube on the urgings of others and counted off money. Now that is the work of a fool and tool. This is a guy with hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of posts, my god who
    has the kind of time and desire, with all the other things life can offer. Well, if you are bored and hunger to attenion, why not. The reptile is a senior citizen, what does he have to show in the end for all these posts. NADA!

    Now Ken, the reptile has said some amazing things about you. He said you have NO personal integrity. He has said he has not seen anything good about you. He has said over and over you .
    you are a racist. He makes this statement with nothing concrete, it is just his opinion. Well Ken, who gives a shit what this clown thinks. I can assure you that no one cares. We can form our own opinion, despite what this creep says. To say you have
    NO personal integrity wow, what a statement. It is absurd, mean spirited, and we all know that there are truly bad people out there with NO personal integrity, that sure is not you. Ken, you are a great guy I am sure, and a quick search of posts in the
    pasts shows many people like you and respect you for your golfing prowess. I do know someone that knows you, and he has nothing but good things to say after meeting you several times at RSG outings. You have a wonderful life with your lovely spouse,
    others have spoken well about you for your generosity, sense of humor, and great demeanor on the golf course. If you have pissed off some people along the way, fuck them. At least you said what was on your mind, and if they talk bad of you or don't want
    you as a friend, well who needs them anyway. You have views that maybe have offended others, who gives a shit. I don't live for the approval of this homely old reptile or anyone in this world. Could care less what anyone thinks. especially some old clown
    in a foreign socialist shithole.

    Ken, welcome back to this group and I am urging you to stay. You love our great game, and you have conviction with your beliefs, you stick with them. You do not answer to some lonely homely turd that lives hundreds upon hundreds of miles away. This
    creature is nothing to you, just a bored lonely old troll with a lot of time on his hands and a chip on his shoulder for you.
    I have no doubt the reptile is salivating seeing you respond to his ridiculous accusations and characterizations of you. It worked, he put the same shit out there that he did before, and you took the bait again. Ken, you are better than that. You are a
    good person, what this clown or anyone else in this dying forum things should mean nothing. What matters is what you think about yourself, what others close to you think about you. The only people that really matter in this world are our families, our
    true friends, neighbors, and co-workers, screw everyone else, especially an insignificant attention seeking troll from a shithole foreign country. Who gives a shit what some homely old man sitting in his apartment alone thinks. If you really do, get help
    dude. I think you can do better than this, and YOU WILL!

    I live just outside Houston. I have your email, I go up to the DFW area several times a year to visit one of our manufacturing sites up there. Maybe one day I will have the privalege to meet you and play a round. I am sure I will not find a racist, a
    man with NO integrity. The old reptile says he has seen NOTHING good about you, well I bet I will find if we ever meet a LOT of good about you. To say there is NOTHING good about you, increidble, like what the hell did you do to deserve a blanket
    statement like that. What this clown thinks is insignificant. He becomes significant only if you let him. Ignore this creep, that will get under his skin more than anything else. And continue to post here and contribute and be honest about your views.
    You are you, be proud of who you are, and fuck those that don't approve, like who cares.

    I am gonna get the camper ready, heading out soon for the weekend. No golf for me, just chilling with the family and the dogs. I will check back next week, you do not take anything personally this reptile says, remember the source. I want to see you
    post, and stand by what you say, and never apologize. You are a better man. I hope you will stay, and contribute. Do not let anyone run you away, you are a better man than that. I hope one day we can meet, but I promise you we will not discuss for one
    minute this reptilian homely creep. I refuse to bring him up, and if we do we will not ever meet again. We will talk about golf, our families, and good stuff. If we waste one minute even thinking about this drama seeking creep, or creeps like him. that
    is one minute we cannot get back. Life is too short my friend to let creeps get under our skin. Let them spread their unhappiness elsewhere, they will always be seeking out their next target. All the best and have a great weekend!

    FWIW, I was responding to hh whoever he is.

    Ken

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  • From KenPitts@21:1/5 to -hh on Fri Sep 23 14:27:43 2022
    On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 4:21:17 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
    On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 11:16:03 AM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote:
    On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 9:36:21 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
    On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 7:10:53 AM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 9:47:56 PM UTC-5, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 5:56:07 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 6:44:10 PM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:15:21 PM UTC-5, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:43:51 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 12:41, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:19:43 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 11:55, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:50:50 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 14:31, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:33:58 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 08:01, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM UTC-5,
    Irving S wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I >>>>>>>> really loved watching him play, he was amazing in his
    prime. But, he will never surpass the record of Jack,
    as far as majors won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma to >>>>>>>> his body. He is strictly ceremonial at this point. Sad,
    but true.

    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident occurred.
    I think he will only show up at majors from here on out.
    That is unless the regular tour event has some special
    significance for him. Two things - his showing at the
    Open Championship was a big indicator that his progress
    is limited. Also, did you see how badly he was limping
    when he showed up for that meeting with Rory and the >>>>>>> others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to be a >>>>>>> racist because I was not in love with Tiger like so many
    others. Whatever. I should have given it more thought.
    carbon wins if Tiger breaks the record. I only win when
    carbon gives up. I pay when I lose - ask Annika1980 and
    Rev Leroy. And given my age, carbon could run out the
    clock.
    I don't recall Carbon calling you a racist...

    ...but you clearly are.

    Your standards for accusing athletes of inappropriate >>>>>> behaviour clearly changed with the colour of the athletes
    skin.

    Hilarious. You have called Pitts a racist before, years ago.
    .
    Yes. I've never claimed I didn't, so what point are you >>>> making, Dickhead?

    . At least you are admitting you have called Pitts a racist. So
    easy for those on the left to call others racist. Well, I did
    just a
    I don't call everyone racists...

    ...just the ones who are obviously racist.
    quick search on Pitts and his comments abou Tiger, I find
    NOTHING overtly racist. Yes, Ken had issues with his on course
    behavior, but it was not related to race. Ken NEVER brought race
    into the discussion and I bet if Tiger was white, his comments
    wouid be identical. Please show us SPECIFIC comments that would
    say that Ken is a racist, otherwise once again you lose >>> credibility. This is getting to be an ongoing issue with you
    Grandpa.
    Except his complaints about behaviour by athletes were always
    about black athletes.

    Oh, and one more thing old man. Tom E made one comment about you
    appearance. You accused him of stalking you, after ONE comment.
    You
    Nope.
    have repeatedly called Ken a racist, is that not stalking. I
    mean
    No, it's not.

    It's replying in a forum to messages he posted.
    how many times do we need you to remind us. What a crybaby you
    are. One post about your appearance, you accuse another of
    stalking, yet
    Wrong.
    you can call others a racist over and over and that is not
    stalking?
    Because it isn't.
    Incredible, you really are to be pitied.

    How many times do you have to remind us that you think Pitts is a
    racist? Does it not get old and repetitive after a while, or is this
    How many times are you going to argue I'm not entitled to my opinion,
    Dickhead?
    something you "get off" on. You have said it so many times, you
    insult your audience, do you not think we get it after you repeat it
    over and over. What the hell is wrong with you?

    I think he is a sweet decent man. I have never met him, but do know
    That says everything right there.
    of one former RSG poster that has, and this person had nothing but
    good things to say about him. I heard he is beyond generous, and a
    fun guy to play golf with, married to a very beautiful woman and is
    a devoted family man. These are concepts foreign to you, you have no
    wife, no kids. Maybe you are just jealous, otherwise you would let
    this racism BS go already, it is way past old. And even if he WAS
    racist, what good does it do to accuse him over and over, and remind
    us over and over. We get it you clown, we got it a long time ago.
    You enjoy calling me "dickhead" keep at it, anything to help fill a
    void in your life and give you a sense of importance.
    I've met him.

    He's a jerk.
    Hilarious! You MET him. Do you KNOW him, as a person. So based on a meeting or two at some RSG golf outings, we are to take you at your word that he's a jerk. How about some specifics, what has he done to you or done to others to deserve
    such a blanket characterization. And again, how many times do we have to hear your negative characterizations of the guy, we got it a long time ago. So other than your alleged racism and throwing a club which he denies, what in your world makes the guy a
    jerk?. You put the statement out there, now you need to back it up. Otherwise, once again you are shown to be a really bored and bitter blowhard.

    Oh, and one more think Grandpa. You said "He's a jerk". That is in the present tense. When is the last time you saw him? How many years? Whatever preoccupation you have with him, you still have not let it go. Wow!

    I never attended any of those RSG events, but Ken did sponsor one if I recall, and they all had a great time. If I am not mistaken, he won an event or two, and everyone was happy for him and said nice things about him and his game, based
    on the posts. So it seems others think Ken is a pretty cool stand up guy, you just seem to have some issue with him. Care to elaborate or are you at a loss of words old man? You made a statement, that he is a jerk. Have the gonads to tell him and the
    rest of us what he has done to deserve this. That after all these years, he has made such a strong impression on you, that he is still regarded as a "jerk". We will be waiting for an explanation. Maybe we can all agree that you have wore us all out with
    this bitterness and stupidity and need to let it go. We are talking years and years ago, and you still disparage the guy. Wow, are you to be pitied!

    Irving, you can get my email address by responding to one of my posts. Drop me a line and we can discuss possibly playing.

    I would say, there are some in RSG with whom I have been friendly who have reversed course about me. Rev Leroy had me as his guest at Colonial and I had him as a guest at my club, Woodhaven. Then he decided I was a bad person and he
    contacted the CIO where I was working to complain about me and my activities here. That ultimately led to me being terminated. Early example of cancel culture. Thanks a lot.

    Bobby Knight had me as his guest at Denton Country Club. Then we got into it over Eric Clapton, of all things. Bobby had a history in the music business in LA, maybe even part of the legendary Wrecking Crew. He had assigned Clapton to being
    nothing but a psychedelic rocker. Hard to imagine since Clapton won a Grammy for the album Unplugged. Bobby knew that but would not relent. We have not spoken since.

    Randy Brown and I had our moments but those seemed to be resolved during the two RSG Atlanta events. But, during the Iraq war his son enlisted in the military. As a veteran, I wished the son well and that he would serve with honor and
    distinction. Randy replied that he hated me. Guess he was not on board with the enlistment.

    Chris Bellomy and I rode together to the first RSG event I played in. RSG Texas in Glenrose. He was the first RSG person I ever met. Later on I made a statement that leftists who were causing trouble deserved to be baton whipped by the
    police. Somehow he decided that I was saying he should be whipped. Never did. But, he pointed that out, he blocked me on Facebook and we have never spoken since. He was even a member of my club for a while.

    As with Baker, I have had misunderstandings in this forum. Some causing me more than a little grief. Question, have you ever seen anyone side with Baker or say anything nice about him? I have not. Not even the anonymous trolls like Felicia.
    You have it right. Sad, bitter and lonely. Strokes from him are always hateful, especially for me.

    Ken
    Gosh, having five examples of people who changed their mind about you?
    Problem is no context. How does this statistic compare to how many RSG
    members who you’ve personally met & are still friendly with you? FYI, we
    could count “total met”, but would then have to subtract out the Ghosting,
    since that’s a thing too.


    -hh

    In over 25 years. I do not know how many. Two for sure. Robert Hamilton and John Pflum.
    David Laville also. He is coming up to DFW for golf soon.

    So that's five down and maybe three up. Not a particularly admirable ratio there, Ken.

    POST MERGE<<
    There's an old saying that says that when everyone around you are assholes,
    it's not them [alternatively: 'its probably you.].
    -hh

    Where did I say everyone?

    I merely was quoting an old adage that wasn't specifically about you.

    I was talking about Baker.

    You've already admitted that there's several others too who are not present to
    defend themselves: Rev Leroy, Bobby Knight, Randy Brown, Chris Bellomy, etc.


    -hh

    What do you have against me? I do not even know you.
    RSG is a USENET "many to many" group; one isn't expected to know everyone. As for me, I'm merely letting you know how poorly you're presenting yourself.
    It is an opportunity for self-improvement, if you allow it to be.
    What do you mean maybe three? I am friends with all three of these men.
    All that's been offered at this point is your unsubstantiated claim. Given how you've
    noted how a ~half dozen others changed their mind on you, these claims aren't to
    be blindly assumed as valid; as Ronald Reagan quipped, "Trust but Verify".

    As I stated, I have been messing with this group for over 25 years. There are a lot
    of people I certainly have gotten along with but I cannot remember the names.
    None of which are still here to vouch for you, unfortunately. One cultivates one's
    reputation every day - and don't forget the old saying about how all of the "Atta Boys"
    can get wiped out with just one "Aw Shit".

    One is Annika1980 [Bret]. We have had some problems along the way because he
    is strongly pro-Tiger. But, I think we are OK now. Here is what he had to say about
    me after the 2nd RSG Atlanta...

    A lot can change in 20 years; you're relying on hope & optimism instead of it being
    contemporarily affirmed as still valid.
    I wanted to feel good about returning to this group. But I may go back to checking on carbon every few months.
    A group is only as good as those who contribute to it, so go do good.

    FYI, for you to flatly admit that you're going to deliberately make it a less fun atmosphere
    by harping over an old, poorly structured wager that can't be definitively competed yet is
    poor form, and an example of something to just let go of.


    -hh

    Fine, go sit with Baker.

    Ken

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to -hh on Fri Sep 23 14:32:55 2022
    On 2022-09-23 14:21, -hh wrote:
    I wanted to feel good about returning to this group. But I may go back to checking on carbon every few months.
    A group is only as good as those who contribute to it, so go do good.

    FYI, for you to flatly admit that you're going to deliberately make it a less fun atmosphere
    by harping over an old, poorly structured wager that can't be definitively competed yet is
    poor form, and an example of something to just let go of.

    As you may now be gathering, Ken is all about what HE wants without
    regard for what anyone else wants.

    :-)

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to KenPitts on Fri Sep 23 14:21:15 2022
    On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 11:16:03 AM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote:
    On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 9:36:21 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
    On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 7:10:53 AM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 9:47:56 PM UTC-5, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 5:56:07 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 6:44:10 PM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:15:21 PM UTC-5, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:43:51 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 12:41, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 3:19:43 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-09-22 11:55, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:50:50 PM UTC-4, Alan >>> wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 14:31, Irving S wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 3:33:58 PM UTC-4, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2022-09-21 08:01, KenPitts wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 8:53:28 AM UTC-5, >>>>>>> Irving S wrote:
    Time he got paid.

    Tiger's days of winning are over. Sad, because I >>>>>>>> really loved watching him play, he was amazing in his >>>>>>>> prime. But, he will never surpass the record of Jack, >>>>>>>> as far as majors won.

    Doubt Tiger will ever win again. Too much trauma to >>>>>>>> his body. He is strictly ceremonial at this point. Sad,
    but true.

    I was pretty sure he was done when the accident occurred.
    I think he will only show up at majors from here on out.
    That is unless the regular tour event has some special >>>>>>> significance for him. Two things - his showing at the >>>>>>> Open Championship was a big indicator that his progress
    is limited. Also, did you see how badly he was limping >>>>>>> when he showed up for that meeting with Rory and the >>>>>>> others?

    Carbon claims this bet was about showing me to be a >>>>>>> racist because I was not in love with Tiger like so many
    others. Whatever. I should have given it more thought. >>>>>>> carbon wins if Tiger breaks the record. I only win when
    carbon gives up. I pay when I lose - ask Annika1980 and
    Rev Leroy. And given my age, carbon could run out the >>>>>>> clock.
    I don't recall Carbon calling you a racist...

    ...but you clearly are.

    Your standards for accusing athletes of inappropriate >>>>>> behaviour clearly changed with the colour of the athletes
    skin.

    Hilarious. You have called Pitts a racist before, years ago.
    .
    Yes. I've never claimed I didn't, so what point are you >>>> making, Dickhead?

    . At least you are admitting you have called Pitts a racist. So
    easy for those on the left to call others racist. Well, I did
    just a
    I don't call everyone racists...

    ...just the ones who are obviously racist.
    quick search on Pitts and his comments abou Tiger, I find >>> NOTHING overtly racist. Yes, Ken had issues with his on course
    behavior, but it was not related to race. Ken NEVER brought race
    into the discussion and I bet if Tiger was white, his comments
    wouid be identical. Please show us SPECIFIC comments that would
    say that Ken is a racist, otherwise once again you lose >>> credibility. This is getting to be an ongoing issue with you
    Grandpa.
    Except his complaints about behaviour by athletes were always
    about black athletes.

    Oh, and one more thing old man. Tom E made one comment about you
    appearance. You accused him of stalking you, after ONE comment.
    You
    Nope.
    have repeatedly called Ken a racist, is that not stalking. I
    mean
    No, it's not.

    It's replying in a forum to messages he posted.
    how many times do we need you to remind us. What a crybaby you
    are. One post about your appearance, you accuse another of >>> stalking, yet
    Wrong.
    you can call others a racist over and over and that is not >>> stalking?
    Because it isn't.
    Incredible, you really are to be pitied.

    How many times do you have to remind us that you think Pitts is a
    racist? Does it not get old and repetitive after a while, or is this
    How many times are you going to argue I'm not entitled to my opinion,
    Dickhead?
    something you "get off" on. You have said it so many times, you
    insult your audience, do you not think we get it after you repeat it
    over and over. What the hell is wrong with you?

    I think he is a sweet decent man. I have never met him, but do know
    That says everything right there.
    of one former RSG poster that has, and this person had nothing but
    good things to say about him. I heard he is beyond generous, and a
    fun guy to play golf with, married to a very beautiful woman and is
    a devoted family man. These are concepts foreign to you, you have no
    wife, no kids. Maybe you are just jealous, otherwise you would let
    this racism BS go already, it is way past old. And even if he WAS
    racist, what good does it do to accuse him over and over, and remind
    us over and over. We get it you clown, we got it a long time ago.
    You enjoy calling me "dickhead" keep at it, anything to help fill a
    void in your life and give you a sense of importance.
    I've met him.

    He's a jerk.
    Hilarious! You MET him. Do you KNOW him, as a person. So based on a meeting or two at some RSG golf outings, we are to take you at your word that he's a jerk. How about some specifics, what has he done to you or done to others to deserve
    such a blanket characterization. And again, how many times do we have to hear your negative characterizations of the guy, we got it a long time ago. So other than your alleged racism and throwing a club which he denies, what in your world makes the guy a
    jerk?. You put the statement out there, now you need to back it up. Otherwise, once again you are shown to be a really bored and bitter blowhard.

    Oh, and one more think Grandpa. You said "He's a jerk". That is in the present tense. When is the last time you saw him? How many years? Whatever preoccupation you have with him, you still have not let it go. Wow!

    I never attended any of those RSG events, but Ken did sponsor one if I recall, and they all had a great time. If I am not mistaken, he won an event or two, and everyone was happy for him and said nice things about him and his game, based on
    the posts. So it seems others think Ken is a pretty cool stand up guy, you just seem to have some issue with him. Care to elaborate or are you at a loss of words old man? You made a statement, that he is a jerk. Have the gonads to tell him and the rest
    of us what he has done to deserve this. That after all these years, he has made such a strong impression on you, that he is still regarded as a "jerk". We will be waiting for an explanation. Maybe we can all agree that you have wore us all out with this
    bitterness and stupidity and need to let it go. We are talking years and years ago, and you still disparage the guy. Wow, are you to be pitied!

    Irving, you can get my email address by responding to one of my posts. Drop me a line and we can discuss possibly playing.

    I would say, there are some in RSG with whom I have been friendly who have reversed course about me. Rev Leroy had me as his guest at Colonial and I had him as a guest at my club, Woodhaven. Then he decided I was a bad person and he contacted
    the CIO where I was working to complain about me and my activities here. That ultimately led to me being terminated. Early example of cancel culture. Thanks a lot.

    Bobby Knight had me as his guest at Denton Country Club. Then we got into it over Eric Clapton, of all things. Bobby had a history in the music business in LA, maybe even part of the legendary Wrecking Crew. He had assigned Clapton to being
    nothing but a psychedelic rocker. Hard to imagine since Clapton won a Grammy for the album Unplugged. Bobby knew that but would not relent. We have not spoken since.

    Randy Brown and I had our moments but those seemed to be resolved during the two RSG Atlanta events. But, during the Iraq war his son enlisted in the military. As a veteran, I wished the son well and that he would serve with honor and
    distinction. Randy replied that he hated me. Guess he was not on board with the enlistment.

    Chris Bellomy and I rode together to the first RSG event I played in. RSG Texas in Glenrose. He was the first RSG person I ever met. Later on I made a statement that leftists who were causing trouble deserved to be baton whipped by the police.
    Somehow he decided that I was saying he should be whipped. Never did. But, he pointed that out, he blocked me on Facebook and we have never spoken since. He was even a member of my club for a while.

    As with Baker, I have had misunderstandings in this forum. Some causing me more than a little grief. Question, have you ever seen anyone side with Baker or say anything nice about him? I have not. Not even the anonymous trolls like Felicia.
    You have it right. Sad, bitter and lonely. Strokes from him are always hateful, especially for me.

    Ken
    Gosh, having five examples of people who changed their mind about you?
    Problem is no context. How does this statistic compare to how many RSG
    members who you’ve personally met & are still friendly with you? FYI, we
    could count “total met”, but would then have to subtract out the Ghosting,
    since that’s a thing too.


    -hh

    In over 25 years. I do not know how many. Two for sure. Robert Hamilton and John Pflum.
    David Laville also. He is coming up to DFW for golf soon.

    So that's five down and maybe three up. Not a particularly admirable ratio there, Ken.

    POST MERGE<<
    There's an old saying that says that when everyone around you are assholes,
    it's not them [alternatively: 'its probably you.].
    -hh

    Where did I say everyone?

    I merely was quoting an old adage that wasn't specifically about you.

    I was talking about Baker.

    You've already admitted that there's several others too who are not present to
    defend themselves: Rev Leroy, Bobby Knight, Randy Brown, Chris Bellomy, etc.


    -hh

    What do you have against me? I do not even know you.

    RSG is a USENET "many to many" group; one isn't expected to know everyone.
    As for me, I'm merely letting you know how poorly you're presenting yourself. It is an opportunity for self-improvement, if you allow it to be.

    What do you mean maybe three? I am friends with all three of these men.

    All that's been offered at this point is your unsubstantiated claim. Given how you've
    noted how a ~half dozen others changed their mind on you, these claims aren't to
    be blindly assumed as valid; as Ronald Reagan quipped, "Trust but Verify".


    As I stated, I have been messing with this group for over 25 years. There are a lot
    of people I certainly have gotten along with but I cannot remember the names.

    None of which are still here to vouch for you, unfortunately. One cultivates one's
    reputation every day - and don't forget the old saying about how all of the "Atta Boys"
    can get wiped out with just one "Aw Shit".

    One is Annika1980 [Bret]. We have had some problems along the way because he is strongly pro-Tiger. But, I think we are OK now. Here is what he had to say about
    me after the 2nd RSG Atlanta...

    A lot can change in 20 years; you're relying on hope & optimism instead of it being
    contemporarily affirmed as still valid.

    I wanted to feel good about returning to this group. But I may go back to checking on carbon every few months.

    A group is only as good as those who contribute to it, so go do good.

    FYI, for you to flatly admit that you're going to deliberately make it a less fun atmosphere
    by harping over an old, poorly structured wager that can't be definitively competed yet is
    poor form, and an example of something to just let go of.


    -hh

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