• Former Presidents enjoy Executive Privelage of their records

    From TomS@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 24 18:56:57 2022
    How do we know this? Because OBUMMER ORDERED IT! https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13489

    Sec. 4. Claim of Executive Privilege by Former President

    (a)   Upon receipt of a claim of executive privilege by a living former President, the Archivist shall consult with the Attorney General (through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel), the Counsel to the President, and such
    other executive agencies as the Archivist deems appropriate concerning the Archivist's determination as to whether to honor the former President's claim of privilege or instead to disclose the Presidential records notwithstanding the claim of privilege.
    Any determination under section 3 of this order that executive privilege shall not be invoked by the incumbent President shall not prejudice the Archivist's determination with respect to the former President's claim of privilege.
    (b)   In making the determination referred to in subsection (a) of this section, the Archivist shall abide by any instructions given him by the incumbent President or his designee unless otherwise directed by a final court order. The Archivist shall
    notify the incumbent and former Presidents of his determination at least 30 days prior to disclosure of the Presidential records, unless a shorter time period is required in the circumstances set forth in section 1270.44 of the NARA regulations. Copies
    of the notice for the incumbent President shall be delivered to the President (through the Counsel to the President) and the Attorney General (through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel). The copy of the notice for the former
    President shall be delivered to the former President or his designated representative.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to TomS on Wed Aug 24 19:43:20 2022
    On 2022-08-24 18:56, TomS wrote:
    How do we know this? Because OBUMMER ORDERED IT! https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13489

    Sec. 4. Claim of Executive Privilege by Former President

    (a)   Upon receipt of a claim of executive privilege by a living former President, the Archivist shall consult with the Attorney General (through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel), the Counsel to the President, and such
    other executive agencies as the Archivist deems appropriate concerning the Archivist's determination as to whether to honor the former President's claim of privilege or instead to disclose the Presidential records notwithstanding the claim of privilege.
    Any determination under section 3 of this order that executive privilege shall not be invoked by the incumbent President shall not prejudice the Archivist's determination with respect to the former President's claim of privilege.
    (b)   In making the determination referred to in subsection (a) of this section, the Archivist shall abide by any instructions given him by the incumbent President or his designee unless otherwise directed by a final court order. The Archivist shall
    notify the incumbent and former Presidents of his determination at least 30 days prior to disclosure of the Presidential records, unless a shorter time period is required in the circumstances set forth in section 1270.44 of the NARA regulations. Copies
    of the notice for the incumbent President shall be delivered to the President (through the Counsel to the President) and the Attorney General (through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel). The copy of the notice for the former
    President shall be delivered to the former President or his designated representative.

    You really should read the entire thing, Sunshine:

    "the Archivist shall abide by any instructions given him by the
    incumbent President"

    You DO know what "incumbent" means, right?

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  • From TomS@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Aug 24 23:23:54 2022
    On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 7:43:23 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-08-24 18:56, TomS wrote:
    How do we know this? Because OBUMMER ORDERED IT! https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13489

    Sec. 4. Claim of Executive Privilege by Former President

    (a)   Upon receipt of a claim of executive privilege by a living former President, the Archivist shall consult with the Attorney General (through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel), the Counsel to the President, and
    such other executive agencies as the Archivist deems appropriate concerning the Archivist's determination as to whether to honor the former President's claim of privilege or instead to disclose the Presidential records notwithstanding the claim of
    privilege. Any determination under section 3 of this order that executive privilege shall not be invoked by the incumbent President shall not prejudice the Archivist's determination with respect to the former President's claim of privilege.
    (b)   In making the determination referred to in subsection (a) of this section, the Archivist shall abide by any instructions given him by the incumbent President or his designee unless otherwise directed by a final court order. The Archivist
    shall notify the incumbent and former Presidents of his determination at least 30 days prior to disclosure of the Presidential records, unless a shorter time period is required in the circumstances set forth in section 1270.44 of the NARA regulations.
    Copies of the notice for the incumbent President shall be delivered to the President (through the Counsel to the President) and the Attorney General (through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel). The copy of the notice for the
    former President shall be delivered to the former President or his designated representative.
    You really should read the entire thing, Sunshine:
    "the Archivist shall abide by any instructions given him by the
    incumbent President"
    You DO know what "incumbent" means, right?

    Okay, Fool, WHAT did Lyin' Biden instruct the archivest?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to TomS on Thu Aug 25 07:12:47 2022
    On 2022-08-24 23:23, TomS wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 7:43:23 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-08-24 18:56, TomS wrote:
    How do we know this? Because OBUMMER ORDERED IT!
    https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13489

    Sec. 4. Claim of Executive Privilege by Former President

    (a)   Upon receipt of a claim of executive privilege by a living former President, the Archivist shall consult with the Attorney General (through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel), the Counsel to the President, and
    such other executive agencies as the Archivist deems appropriate concerning the Archivist's determination as to whether to honor the former President's claim of privilege or instead to disclose the Presidential records notwithstanding the claim of
    privilege. Any determination under section 3 of this order that executive privilege shall not be invoked by the incumbent President shall not prejudice the Archivist's determination with respect to the former President's claim of privilege.
    (b)   In making the determination referred to in subsection (a) of this section, the Archivist shall abide by any instructions given him by the incumbent President or his designee unless otherwise directed by a final court order. The Archivist
    shall notify the incumbent and former Presidents of his determination at least 30 days prior to disclosure of the Presidential records, unless a shorter time period is required in the circumstances set forth in section 1270.44 of the NARA regulations.
    Copies of the notice for the incumbent President shall be delivered to the President (through the Counsel to the President) and the Attorney General (through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel). The copy of the notice for the
    former President shall be delivered to the former President or his designated representative.
    You really should read the entire thing, Sunshine:
    "the Archivist shall abide by any instructions given him by the
    incumbent President"
    You DO know what "incumbent" means, right?

    Okay, Fool, WHAT did Lyin' Biden instruct the archivest?

    I don't know.

    I DO know that your subject is wrong.

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  • From TomS@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu Aug 25 09:01:53 2022
    On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 7:12:50 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-08-24 23:23, TomS wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 7:43:23 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-08-24 18:56, TomS wrote:
    How do we know this? Because OBUMMER ORDERED IT!
    https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13489

    Sec. 4. Claim of Executive Privilege by Former President

    (a)   Upon receipt of a claim of executive privilege by a living former President, the Archivist shall consult with the Attorney General (through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel), the Counsel to the President, and
    such other executive agencies as the Archivist deems appropriate concerning the Archivist's determination as to whether to honor the former President's claim of privilege or instead to disclose the Presidential records notwithstanding the claim of
    privilege. Any determination under section 3 of this order that executive privilege shall not be invoked by the incumbent President shall not prejudice the Archivist's determination with respect to the former President's claim of privilege.
    (b)   In making the determination referred to in subsection (a) of this section, the Archivist shall abide by any instructions given him by the incumbent President or his designee unless otherwise directed by a final court order. The Archivist
    shall notify the incumbent and former Presidents of his determination at least 30 days prior to disclosure of the Presidential records, unless a shorter time period is required in the circumstances set forth in section 1270.44 of the NARA regulations.
    Copies of the notice for the incumbent President shall be delivered to the President (through the Counsel to the President) and the Attorney General (through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel). The copy of the notice for the
    former President shall be delivered to the former President or his designated representative.
    You really should read the entire thing, Sunshine:
    "the Archivist shall abide by any instructions given him by the
    incumbent President"
    You DO know what "incumbent" means, right?

    Okay, Fool, WHAT did Lyin' Biden instruct the archivest?
    I don't know.

    I DO know that your subject is wrong.

    LOL! You just admitted that you don't know SHIT but do know that the executive order doesn't say what it actually says!!

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  • From Bigbird@21:1/5 to TomS on Fri Aug 26 18:43:01 2022
    TomS wrote:

    How do we know this? Because OBUMMER ORDERED IT! https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13489

    [snip]

    Clearly you have no fucking idea what any of the means; or would you
    like to humiliate yourself by telling us in detail why you think it is
    relevant to any current matters.

    YFI, Boo Hoo

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  • From Irving S@21:1/5 to Bigbird on Sat Aug 27 07:30:21 2022
    On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 2:43:03 PM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:
    TomS wrote:

    How do we know this? Because OBUMMER ORDERED IT! https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13489

    [snip]

    Clearly you have no fucking idea what any of the means; or would you
    like to humiliate yourself by telling us in detail why you think it is relevant to any current matters.

    YFI, Boo Hoo

    The unemployed dog walker fails to understand that Tom has him on ignore.

    You fucking primate, why are you not out looking for a job. Mommy is hungry, feed that obese slob!

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