• Lyin' Biden's Gestapo raids Mara Lago

    From TomS@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 8 18:50:28 2022
    The senile pervert's Gestapo (aka FBI) raided a FORMER PRESIDENT and likely POLITICAL OPPONENT'S HOME, Mar-a-Lago today. This was done under the guise that they wanted to "preserve presidential records," but they did not elaborate on it. Many boxes of
    documents at Mar-a-Lago were seized w/o ANY review of what they contained. This is referred to as a "dragnet operation." No search warrant has been published:
    "And no publicly available federal search warrants filed in South Florida recently shed light on why agents were there"

    This proves how scared Lyin' Biden is of Trump running against him next year. Ironically, Lyin' Biden was having a pretty good week (good for the senile bastard, that is) until this ham-fisted move.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to TomS on Mon Aug 8 18:57:57 2022
    On 2022-08-08 18:50, TomS wrote:
    The senile pervert's Gestapo (aka FBI) raided a FORMER PRESIDENT and likely POLITICAL OPPONENT'S HOME, Mar-a-Lago today. This was done under the guise that they wanted to "preserve presidential records," but they did not elaborate on it. Many boxes of
    documents at Mar-a-Lago were seized w/o ANY review of what they contained. This is referred to as a "dragnet operation." No search warrant has been published:
    "And no publicly available federal search warrants filed in South Florida recently shed light on why agents were there"

    This proves how scared Lyin' Biden is of Trump running against him next year. Ironically, Lyin' Biden was having a pretty good week (good for the senile bastard, that is) until this ham-fisted move.

    Tell us all, Sunshine:

    Who appointed the current director of the FBI?

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  • From Tom Elam@21:1/5 to TomS on Tue Aug 9 05:03:26 2022
    On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 9:50:30 PM UTC-4, TomS wrote:
    The senile pervert's Gestapo (aka FBI) raided a FORMER PRESIDENT and likely POLITICAL OPPONENT'S HOME, Mar-a-Lago today. This was done under the guise that they wanted to "preserve presidential records," but they did not elaborate on it. Many boxes of
    documents at Mar-a-Lago were seized w/o ANY review of what they contained. This is referred to as a "dragnet operation." No search warrant has been published:
    "And no publicly available federal search warrants filed in South Florida recently shed light on why agents were there"

    This proves how scared Lyin' Biden is of Trump running against him next year. Ironically, Lyin' Biden was having a pretty good week (good for the senile bastard, that is) until this ham-fisted move.

    Trump just needs to go away.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to TomS on Tue Aug 9 10:07:20 2022
    On 2022-08-08 18:50, TomS wrote:
    The senile pervert's Gestapo (aka FBI) raided a FORMER PRESIDENT and
    likely POLITICAL OPPONENT'S HOME, Mar-a-Lago today. This was done
    under the guise that they wanted to "preserve presidential records,"
    but they did not elaborate on it. Many boxes of documents at
    Mar-a-Lago were seized w/o ANY review of what they contained. This is referred to as a "dragnet operation." No search warrant has been
    published: "And no publicly available federal search warrants filed
    in South Florida recently shed light on why agents were there"

    This proves how scared Lyin' Biden is of Trump running against him
    next year. Ironically, Lyin' Biden was having a pretty good week
    (good for the senile bastard, that is) until this ham-fisted move.

    'Trump failed to return classified docs requested by the National
    Archives. A federal judge issued a search warrant for probable cause of
    a crime. This is not some rando move by the FBI so you shitforbrains Republicans calling for “defunding the FBI” for once try to be less stupid'

    Would you care to hazard a guess who said that, Sunshine?

    Liarboy: would you care to chime in?

    :-)

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  • From TomS@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Aug 9 15:53:50 2022
    On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 6:57:59 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-08-08 18:50, TomS wrote:
    The senile pervert's Gestapo (aka FBI) raided a FORMER PRESIDENT and likely POLITICAL OPPONENT'S HOME, Mar-a-Lago today. This was done under the guise that they wanted to "preserve presidential records," but they did not elaborate on it. Many boxes
    of documents at Mar-a-Lago were seized w/o ANY review of what they contained. This is referred to as a "dragnet operation." No search warrant has been published:
    "And no publicly available federal search warrants filed in South Florida recently shed light on why agents were there"

    This proves how scared Lyin' Biden is of Trump running against him next year. Ironically, Lyin' Biden was having a pretty good week (good for the senile bastard, that is) until this ham-fisted move.
    Tell us all, Sunshine:

    Who appointed the current director of the FBI?

    WTF does that have to do with illegal government behavior?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to TomS on Tue Aug 9 15:58:58 2022
    On 2022-08-09 15:53, TomS wrote:
    On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 6:57:59 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-08-08 18:50, TomS wrote:
    The senile pervert's Gestapo (aka FBI) raided a FORMER PRESIDENT and likely POLITICAL OPPONENT'S HOME, Mar-a-Lago today. This was done under the guise that they wanted to "preserve presidential records," but they did not elaborate on it. Many boxes
    of documents at Mar-a-Lago were seized w/o ANY review of what they contained. This is referred to as a "dragnet operation." No search warrant has been published:
    "And no publicly available federal search warrants filed in South Florida recently shed light on why agents were there"

    This proves how scared Lyin' Biden is of Trump running against him next year. Ironically, Lyin' Biden was having a pretty good week (good for the senile bastard, that is) until this ham-fisted move.
    Tell us all, Sunshine:

    Who appointed the current director of the FBI?

    WTF does that have to do with illegal government behavior?

    Trump took classified documents to Mar-a-Lago.

    That was a crime.

    A federal judge had to sign the warrant to authorize the search.

    And the head of the FBI is someone Trump selected as at least honest,
    and let's face it: probably loyal to him.

    What has the government done that is supposedly illegal?

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Aug 10 04:59:29 2022
    On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 6:59:01 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-08-09 15:53, TomS wrote:
    On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 6:57:59 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    ...
    Tell us all, Sunshine:

    Who appointed the current director of the FBI?

    WTF does that have to do with illegal government behavior?

    Trump took classified documents to Mar-a-Lago.

    That was a crime.

    “After calling for Hillary Clinton to be jailed, in 2018 Trump
    signed a law that stiffened the penalty for the unauthorized
    removal and retention of classified documents from one year
    to five years, turning it into a felony offense”

    <https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/09/why-the-trump-search-warrant-is-nothing-like-hillarys-emails-00050691>

    Believe the technical term for this is: "hoisted upon one's own petard".


    A federal judge had to sign the warrant to authorize the search.

    Trump's lawyers have a copy of the warrant, for which they are free
    to release it to the public. As such, the "keeping secrets" spin attempt
    is duplicitous, as the Fed is required to maintain privacy, which is why
    a release of the warrant to the public is the purview of the one served.


    And the head of the FBI is someone Trump selected as at least honest,
    and let's face it: probably loyal to him.

    What has the government done that is supposedly illegal?

    <<crickets>>

    Tommy seems to be having problems with the basic US Constitutional
    principle that no one is above the law.

    Likewise, to assert that a warrant against a former POTUS being
    unprecedented needs to be viewed in the context that the relevant
    denominator isn't how many total POTUS's the USA has had, but
    rather, how many former POTUS's we've had who've tried to overthrow
    the US government. As such, the precedent is "1 for 1" (one warrant
    for one insurrectionist).

    -hh

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  • From Bigbird@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 10 11:19:32 2022
    TomS wrote:

    Apparently they found well in excess of 239lb of dope.


    --
    Bozo Bin
    Alan Baker
    Texasgate

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  • From TomS@21:1/5 to -hh on Wed Aug 10 17:35:53 2022
    On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 4:59:31 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 6:59:01 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-08-09 15:53, TomS wrote:
    On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 6:57:59 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    ...
    Tell us all, Sunshine:

    Who appointed the current director of the FBI?

    WTF does that have to do with illegal government behavior?

    Trump took classified documents to Mar-a-Lago.

    That was a crime.
    “After calling for Hillary Clinton to be jailed, in 2018 Trump
    signed a law that stiffened the penalty for the unauthorized
    removal and retention of classified documents from one year
    to five years, turning it into a felony offense”

    <https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/09/why-the-trump-search-warrant-is-nothing-like-hillarys-emails-00050691>

    Believe the technical term for this is: "hoisted upon one's own petard".
    A federal judge had to sign the warrant to authorize the search.
    Trump's lawyers have a copy of the warrant, for which they are free
    to release it to the public. As such, the "keeping secrets" spin attempt
    is duplicitous, as the Fed is required to maintain privacy, which is why
    a release of the warrant to the public is the purview of the one served.
    And the head of the FBI is someone Trump selected as at least honest,
    and let's face it: probably loyal to him.

    What has the government done that is supposedly illegal?
    <<crickets>>

    Tommy seems to be having problems with the basic US Constitutional
    principle that no one is above the law.

    Likewise, to assert that a warrant against a former POTUS being unprecedented needs to be viewed in the context that the relevant denominator isn't how many total POTUS's the USA has had, but
    rather, how many former POTUS's we've had who've tried to overthrow
    the US government. As such, the precedent is "1 for 1" (one warrant
    for one insurrectionist).

    -hh

    A typical libtard's convoluted justification of an UNJUSTIFIABLE banana republic move. This is going to backfire BIG into the Dim's IQ 50 faces. And WHAT were those perverts doing, anyhow, going thru Melania's underwear???

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  • From TomS@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Aug 10 17:31:36 2022
    On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 3:59:01 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-08-09 15:53, TomS wrote:
    On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 6:57:59 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-08-08 18:50, TomS wrote:
    The senile pervert's Gestapo (aka FBI) raided a FORMER PRESIDENT and likely POLITICAL OPPONENT'S HOME, Mar-a-Lago today. This was done under the guise that they wanted to "preserve presidential records," but they did not elaborate on it. Many boxes
    of documents at Mar-a-Lago were seized w/o ANY review of what they contained. This is referred to as a "dragnet operation." No search warrant has been published:
    "And no publicly available federal search warrants filed in South Florida recently shed light on why agents were there"

    This proves how scared Lyin' Biden is of Trump running against him next year. Ironically, Lyin' Biden was having a pretty good week (good for the senile bastard, that is) until this ham-fisted move.
    Tell us all, Sunshine:

    Who appointed the current director of the FBI?

    WTF does that have to do with illegal government behavior?
    Trump took classified documents to Mar-a-Lago.

    That was a crime.

    A federal judge had to sign the warrant to authorize the search.

    And the head of the FBI is someone Trump selected as at least honest,
    and let's face it: probably loyal to him.

    What has the government done that is supposedly illegal?

    No, not possible because the President is the final arbiter of what is classified.

    Shrillary, however, DID take classified documents off-site and made them available to UNCLEARED people, as well as the Russians.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to TomS on Wed Aug 10 19:12:51 2022
    On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 8:31:38 PM UTC-4, TomS wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 3:59:01 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-08-09 15:53, TomS wrote:
    On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 6:57:59 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-08-08 18:50, TomS wrote:
    The senile pervert's Gestapo (aka FBI) raided a FORMER PRESIDENT and likely POLITICAL OPPONENT'S HOME, Mar-a-Lago today. This was done under the guise that they wanted to "preserve presidential records," but they did not elaborate on it. Many
    boxes of documents at Mar-a-Lago were seized w/o ANY review of what they contained. This is referred to as a "dragnet operation." No search warrant has been published:
    "And no publicly available federal search warrants filed in South Florida recently shed light on why agents were there"

    This proves how scared Lyin' Biden is of Trump running against him next year. Ironically, Lyin' Biden was having a pretty good week (good for the senile bastard, that is) until this ham-fisted move.
    Tell us all, Sunshine:

    Who appointed the current director of the FBI?

    WTF does that have to do with illegal government behavior?
    Trump took classified documents to Mar-a-Lago.

    That was a crime.

    A federal judge had to sign the warrant to authorize the search.

    And the head of the FBI is someone Trump selected as at least honest,
    and let's face it: probably loyal to him.

    What has the government done that is supposedly illegal?

    No, not possible because the President is the final arbiter of what is classified.

    Not when he’s no longer POTUS…

    You’ve never had a clearance to know the regulations and EO’s that specify the
    declassification process that must be followed. Even by the POTUS.

    -hh

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  • From TomS@21:1/5 to -hh on Wed Aug 10 19:37:00 2022
    On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 7:19:13 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 8:35:54 PM UTC-4, TomS wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 4:59:31 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 6:59:01 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-08-09 15:53, TomS wrote:
    On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 6:57:59 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    ...
    Tell us all, Sunshine:

    Who appointed the current director of the FBI?

    WTF does that have to do with illegal government behavior?

    Trump took classified documents to Mar-a-Lago.

    That was a crime.
    “After calling for Hillary Clinton to be jailed, in 2018 Trump
    signed a law that stiffened the penalty for the unauthorized
    removal and retention of classified documents from one year
    to five years, turning it into a felony offense”

    <https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/09/why-the-trump-search-warrant-is-nothing-like-hillarys-emails-00050691>

    Believe the technical term for this is: "hoisted upon one's own petard".
    A federal judge had to sign the warrant to authorize the search.
    Trump's lawyers have a copy of the warrant, for which they are free
    to release it to the public. As such, the "keeping secrets" spin attempt is duplicitous, as the Fed is required to maintain privacy, which is why a release of the warrant to the public is the purview of the one served.
    And the head of the FBI is someone Trump selected as at least honest, and let's face it: probably loyal to him.

    What has the government done that is supposedly illegal?
    <<crickets>>

    Tommy seems to be having problems with the basic US Constitutional principle that no one is above the law.

    Likewise, to assert that a warrant against a former POTUS being unprecedented needs to be viewed in the context that the relevant denominator isn't how many total POTUS's the USA has had, but
    rather, how many former POTUS's we've had who've tried to overthrow
    the US government. As such, the precedent is "1 for 1" (one warrant
    for one insurrectionist).


    A typical libtard's convoluted justification of an UNJUSTIFIABLE banana republic move.
    Except for now they already had worked with the Feds months ago, turning over
    boxes of govt docs they weren’t authorized to have; this could be as simple as
    them lying when they claimed that they had previously turned everything over.
    This is going to backfire BIG into the Dim's IQ 50 faces. And WHAT were those
    perverts doing, anyhow, going thru Melania's underwear???
    Since the Trumpets whined about how Trump’s lawyers & staff were not allowed
    to witness the FBI sweep, how do you know that their claim just isn’t YA lie?
    Be specific.

    -hh

    Hey Lyin' Asshole, the Feds went thru ALL of these documents in question in June and APPLAUDED how cooperative Trump was with them. This RAID was NOT about these documents: it was a FISHING EXPEDITION looking for ANYTHING that might be used against him.
    This is SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITED by the Constitution (you have heard about the Constitution, haven't you?):
    1. The Fourth Amendment, search and seizure.
    2. The Fourteenth Amendment, equal protection.
    and also by the FBI's OWN RULES:
    FBI Rule 41

    This is backfiring BIG TIME for that senile pervert, Lyin' Biden

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to TomS on Wed Aug 10 19:19:11 2022
    On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 8:35:54 PM UTC-4, TomS wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 4:59:31 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 6:59:01 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-08-09 15:53, TomS wrote:
    On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 6:57:59 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    ...
    Tell us all, Sunshine:

    Who appointed the current director of the FBI?

    WTF does that have to do with illegal government behavior?

    Trump took classified documents to Mar-a-Lago.

    That was a crime.
    “After calling for Hillary Clinton to be jailed, in 2018 Trump
    signed a law that stiffened the penalty for the unauthorized
    removal and retention of classified documents from one year
    to five years, turning it into a felony offense”

    <https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/09/why-the-trump-search-warrant-is-nothing-like-hillarys-emails-00050691>

    Believe the technical term for this is: "hoisted upon one's own petard".
    A federal judge had to sign the warrant to authorize the search.
    Trump's lawyers have a copy of the warrant, for which they are free
    to release it to the public. As such, the "keeping secrets" spin attempt is duplicitous, as the Fed is required to maintain privacy, which is why
    a release of the warrant to the public is the purview of the one served.
    And the head of the FBI is someone Trump selected as at least honest, and let's face it: probably loyal to him.

    What has the government done that is supposedly illegal?
    <<crickets>>

    Tommy seems to be having problems with the basic US Constitutional principle that no one is above the law.

    Likewise, to assert that a warrant against a former POTUS being unprecedented needs to be viewed in the context that the relevant denominator isn't how many total POTUS's the USA has had, but
    rather, how many former POTUS's we've had who've tried to overthrow
    the US government. As such, the precedent is "1 for 1" (one warrant
    for one insurrectionist).


    A typical libtard's convoluted justification of an UNJUSTIFIABLE banana republic move.

    Except for now they already had worked with the Feds months ago, turning over boxes of govt docs they weren’t authorized to have; this could be as simple as
    them lying when they claimed that they had previously turned everything over.


    This is going to backfire BIG into the Dim's IQ 50 faces. And WHAT were those
    perverts doing, anyhow, going thru Melania's underwear???

    Since the Trumpets whined about how Trump’s lawyers & staff were not allowed to witness the FBI sweep, how do you know that their claim just isn’t YA lie? Be specific.

    -hh

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to TomS on Wed Aug 10 22:46:50 2022
    On 2022-08-10 19:37, TomS wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 7:19:13 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 8:35:54 PM UTC-4, TomS wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 4:59:31 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 6:59:01 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-08-09 15:53, TomS wrote:
    On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 6:57:59 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    ... Tell us all, Sunshine:

    Who appointed the current director of the FBI?

    WTF does that have to do with illegal government behavior?

    Trump took classified documents to Mar-a-Lago.

    That was a crime.
    “After calling for Hillary Clinton to be jailed, in 2018 Trump
    signed a law that stiffened the penalty for the unauthorized
    removal and retention of classified documents from one year to
    five years, turning it into a felony offense”

    <https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/09/why-the-trump-search-warrant-is-nothing-like-hillarys-emails-00050691>



    Believe the technical term for this is: "hoisted upon one's own petard".
    A federal judge had to sign the warrant to authorize the
    search.
    Trump's lawyers have a copy of the warrant, for which they are
    free to release it to the public. As such, the "keeping
    secrets" spin attempt is duplicitous, as the Fed is required to
    maintain privacy, which is why a release of the warrant to the
    public is the purview of the one served.
    And the head of the FBI is someone Trump selected as at least
    honest, and let's face it: probably loyal to him.

    What has the government done that is supposedly illegal?
    <<crickets>>

    Tommy seems to be having problems with the basic US
    Constitutional principle that no one is above the law.

    Likewise, to assert that a warrant against a former POTUS
    being unprecedented needs to be viewed in the context that the
    relevant denominator isn't how many total POTUS's the USA has
    had, but rather, how many former POTUS's we've had who've tried
    to overthrow the US government. As such, the precedent is "1
    for 1" (one warrant for one insurrectionist).


    A typical libtard's convoluted justification of an UNJUSTIFIABLE
    banana republic move.
    Except for now they already had worked with the Feds months ago,
    turning over boxes of govt docs they weren’t authorized to have;
    this could be as simple as them lying when they claimed that they
    had previously turned everything over.
    This is going to backfire BIG into the Dim's IQ 50 faces. And
    WHAT were those perverts doing, anyhow, going thru Melania's
    underwear???
    Since the Trumpets whined about how Trump’s lawyers & staff were
    not allowed to witness the FBI sweep, how do you know that their
    claim just isn’t YA lie? Be specific.

    -hh

    Hey Lyin' Asshole, the Feds went thru ALL of these documents in
    question in June and APPLAUDED how cooperative Trump was with them.

    Then you'll surely have a citation for that...

    This RAID was NOT about these documents: it was a FISHING EXPEDITION
    looking for ANYTHING that might be used against him.

    And you know this, because...

    This is
    SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITED by the Constitution (you have heard about the Constitution, haven't you?): 1. The Fourth Amendment, search and
    seizure. 2. The Fourteenth Amendment, equal protection. and also by
    the FBI's OWN RULES: FBI Rule 41

    And a federal judge—I've heard a Trump appointee—signed the search warrant.

    Care to comment?


    This is backfiring BIG TIME for that senile pervert, Lyin' Biden


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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu Aug 11 01:54:20 2022
    On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 1:46:55 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-08-10 19:37, TomS wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 7:19:13 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 8:35:54 PM UTC-4, TomS wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 4:59:31 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 6:59:01 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-08-09 15:53, TomS wrote:
    On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 6:57:59 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    ... Tell us all, Sunshine:

    Who appointed the current director of the FBI?

    WTF does that have to do with illegal government behavior?

    Trump took classified documents to Mar-a-Lago.

    That was a crime.
    “After calling for Hillary Clinton to be jailed, in 2018 Trump
    signed a law that stiffened the penalty for the unauthorized
    removal and retention of classified documents from one year to
    five years, turning it into a felony offense”

    <https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/09/why-the-trump-search-warrant-is-nothing-like-hillarys-emails-00050691>



    Believe the technical term for this is: "hoisted upon one's own petard". >>>>> A federal judge had to sign the warrant to authorize the
    search.
    Trump's lawyers have a copy of the warrant, for which they are
    free to release it to the public. As such, the "keeping
    secrets" spin attempt is duplicitous, as the Fed is required to
    maintain privacy, which is why a release of the warrant to the
    public is the purview of the one served.
    And the head of the FBI is someone Trump selected as at least
    honest, and let's face it: probably loyal to him.

    What has the government done that is supposedly illegal?
    <<crickets>>

    Tommy seems to be having problems with the basic US
    Constitutional principle that no one is above the law.

    Likewise, to assert that a warrant against a former POTUS
    being unprecedented needs to be viewed in the context that the
    relevant denominator isn't how many total POTUS's the USA has
    had, but rather, how many former POTUS's we've had who've tried
    to overthrow the US government. As such, the precedent is "1
    for 1" (one warrant for one insurrectionist).


    A typical libtard's convoluted justification of an UNJUSTIFIABLE
    banana republic move.
    Except for now they already had worked with the Feds months ago,
    turning over boxes of govt docs they weren’t authorized to have;
    this could be as simple as them lying when they claimed that they
    had previously turned everything over.
    This is going to backfire BIG into the Dim's IQ 50 faces. And
    WHAT were those perverts doing, anyhow, going thru Melania's
    underwear???
    Since the Trumpets whined about how Trump’s lawyers & staff were
    not allowed to witness the FBI sweep, how do you know that their
    claim just isn’t YA lie? Be specific.

    -hh

    Hey Lyin' Asshole, the Feds went thru ALL of these documents in
    question in June and APPLAUDED how cooperative Trump was with them.

    Then you'll surely have a citation for that...

    This RAID was NOT about these documents: it was a FISHING EXPEDITION looking for ANYTHING that might be used against him.

    And you know this, because...

    Ummm...because press releases never contain any lies or spin...? /s

    This is
    SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITED by the Constitution (you have heard about the Constitution, haven't you?): 1. The Fourth Amendment, search and
    seizure. 2. The Fourteenth Amendment, equal protection. and also by
    the FBI's OWN RULES: FBI Rule 41

    And a federal judge—I've heard a Trump appointee—signed the search warrant.

    Care to comment?

    "First president to be impeached twice.
    First president to attempt a coup d'état.
    First president to have his home searched by the FBI.
    First president to take the Fifth.
    It's just so impressive."
    - George Conway <https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1557395603767844864>


    In the meantime... <https://twitter.com/scottjshapiro/status/1557380142951014401>

    -hh

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  • From Bigbird@21:1/5 to TomS on Fri Aug 12 10:31:04 2022
    TomS wrote:

    No, not possible because the President is the final arbiter of what
    is classified.


    That's not how it works, shit for brains; unless there is an official
    record of the fat cunt declassifying those specific documents while in
    office then they are not and he is open to criminal proceedings.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Bigbird on Fri Aug 12 05:05:23 2022
    On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 6:31:06 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:
    TomS wrote:

    No, not possible because the President is the final arbiter of what
    is classified.

    That's not how it works, shit for brains; unless there is an official
    record of the fat cunt declassifying those specific documents while in
    office then they are not and he is open to criminal proceedings.

    What Tommy is merely expressing is that he's never had a security clearance
    to actually know (because mandatory training) just what the rules are.


    -hh

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  • From Irving S@21:1/5 to Bigbird on Fri Aug 12 06:31:04 2022
    On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 6:31:06 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:
    TomS wrote:

    No, not possible because the President is the final arbiter of what
    is classified.

    That's not how it works, shit for brains; unless there is an official
    record of the fat cunt declassifying those specific documents while in office then they are not and he is open to criminal proceedings.

    You imbecile, get ready to be calling that "fat cunt" Mr. President in a few years. If not Trump, another MAGA candidate just as good. The progressive left is shit, and going down the drain like shit deserves.

    Interesting, an unemployed dog walker calling someone else shit for brains. LOL! A total failure, you are, the pot calling the kettle black. Now go cry to mommy, maybe she will cook you some brownies. Mommy knows how to comfort her sad little boy.
    She loves you so. And we laugh at you so.

    Oh, and please say hello to daddy. I hear Tyrone is a great guy.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to -hh on Fri Aug 12 19:14:03 2022
    On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 8:05:24 AM UTC-4, -hh wrote:
    On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 6:31:06 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:
    TomS wrote:

    No, not possible because the President is the final arbiter of what
    is classified.

    That's not how it works, shit for brains; unless there is an official record of the fat cunt declassifying those specific documents while in office then they are not and he is open to criminal proceedings.

    What Tommy is merely expressing is that he's never had a security clearance to actually know (because mandatory training) just what the rules are.


    Tonight’s hot take:

    “ I’m confused: How can Trump be so sure that he declassified the evidence that the FBI planted?”

    -hh

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to -hh on Fri Aug 12 19:37:24 2022
    On 2022-08-12 19:14, -hh wrote:
    On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 8:05:24 AM UTC-4, -hh wrote:
    On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 6:31:06 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:
    TomS wrote:

    No, not possible because the President is the final arbiter of what
    is classified.

    That's not how it works, shit for brains; unless there is an official
    record of the fat cunt declassifying those specific documents while in
    office then they are not and he is open to criminal proceedings.

    What Tommy is merely expressing is that he's never had a security clearance >> to actually know (because mandatory training) just what the rules are.


    Tonight’s hot take:

    “ I’m confused: How can Trump be so sure that he declassified the evidence that the FBI planted?”

    -hh

    LOL!

    :-D

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to -hh on Fri Aug 12 21:48:33 2022
    On 2022-08-11 01:54, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 1:46:55 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-08-10 19:37, TomS wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 7:19:13 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 8:35:54 PM UTC-4, TomS wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 4:59:31 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 6:59:01 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-08-09 15:53, TomS wrote:
    On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 6:57:59 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    ... Tell us all, Sunshine:

    Who appointed the current director of the FBI?

    WTF does that have to do with illegal government behavior?

    Trump took classified documents to Mar-a-Lago.

    That was a crime.
    “After calling for Hillary Clinton to be jailed, in 2018 Trump
    signed a law that stiffened the penalty for the unauthorized
    removal and retention of classified documents from one year to
    five years, turning it into a felony offense”

    <https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/09/why-the-trump-search-warrant-is-nothing-like-hillarys-emails-00050691>



    Believe the technical term for this is: "hoisted upon one's own petard". >>>>>>> A federal judge had to sign the warrant to authorize the
    search.
    Trump's lawyers have a copy of the warrant, for which they are
    free to release it to the public. As such, the "keeping
    secrets" spin attempt is duplicitous, as the Fed is required to
    maintain privacy, which is why a release of the warrant to the
    public is the purview of the one served.
    And the head of the FBI is someone Trump selected as at least
    honest, and let's face it: probably loyal to him.

    What has the government done that is supposedly illegal?
    <<crickets>>

    Tommy seems to be having problems with the basic US
    Constitutional principle that no one is above the law.

    Likewise, to assert that a warrant against a former POTUS
    being unprecedented needs to be viewed in the context that the
    relevant denominator isn't how many total POTUS's the USA has
    had, but rather, how many former POTUS's we've had who've tried
    to overthrow the US government. As such, the precedent is "1
    for 1" (one warrant for one insurrectionist).


    A typical libtard's convoluted justification of an UNJUSTIFIABLE
    banana republic move.
    Except for now they already had worked with the Feds months ago,
    turning over boxes of govt docs they weren’t authorized to have;
    this could be as simple as them lying when they claimed that they
    had previously turned everything over.
    This is going to backfire BIG into the Dim's IQ 50 faces. And
    WHAT were those perverts doing, anyhow, going thru Melania's
    underwear???
    Since the Trumpets whined about how Trump’s lawyers & staff were
    not allowed to witness the FBI sweep, how do you know that their
    claim just isn’t YA lie? Be specific.

    -hh

    Hey Lyin' Asshole, the Feds went thru ALL of these documents in
    question in June and APPLAUDED how cooperative Trump was with them.

    Then you'll surely have a citation for that...

    This RAID was NOT about these documents: it was a FISHING EXPEDITION
    looking for ANYTHING that might be used against him.

    And you know this, because...

    Ummm...because press releases never contain any lies or spin...? /s

    This is
    SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITED by the Constitution (you have heard about the
    Constitution, haven't you?): 1. The Fourth Amendment, search and
    seizure. 2. The Fourteenth Amendment, equal protection. and also by
    the FBI's OWN RULES: FBI Rule 41

    And a federal judge—I've heard a Trump appointee—signed the search warrant.

    Care to comment?

    "First president to be impeached twice.
    First president to attempt a coup d'état.
    First president to have his home searched by the FBI.
    First president to take the Fifth.
    It's just so impressive."
    - George Conway <https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1557395603767844864>


    In the meantime... <https://twitter.com/scottjshapiro/status/1557380142951014401>

    -hh

    Niiiiiiiice.

    :-)

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