The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) tomorrow, June 28, will
vote on the “Future Framework,” a scheme that would allow Pfizer and Moderna to “reformulate” COVID-19 mRNA vaccines in perpetuity,
without conducting clinical trials on the new vaccines.
https://brownstone.org/articles/the-fdas-future-framework-for-covid-vaccines-is-reckless-plan/
With all the data that is coming out about these poisonous jabs from RELIABLE sources, this is aboslutely amazing. That it is even being considered, is amazing.
There is no bigger idiot in my book, that takes these jabs without at
least making an effort to explore other viewpoints. In the sick
world of those who support this poison, and have taken the poison.
anything written in favor of the poison is fact. IF Biden says it ,
if a Hollywood actor or Pro athlete says it, if the CDC says it, it
MUST be true. And if any other source says to the contrary, it is immediately written off as conspiracy crap. So many reliable sources
out there, showing the folly of all this. How sick many have become
after submitting to this poison. VAERS is well underreported, but
even if 1/10 of what has been reported is true, decent people who
believed have been injured.
Never took the poison, no one in my family took the poison, my
employer never required it. Never wore a mask, never will. Know of
no one that has been sick or died from this so called pandemic. If
you are a fat disgusting out of shape slob, or someone with blood
pressure of 280, or a diabetic moron that eats a quart of ice cream a
day, then maybe you have something to worry about, a friggin cold
could kill these clowns.
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) tomorrow, June 28, will vote on the “Future Framework,” a scheme that would allow Pfizer and Moderna to “reformulate” COVID-19 mRNA vaccines in perpetuity, without conducting clinical trials on thenew vaccines.
https://brownstone.org/articles/the-fdas-future-framework-for-covid-vaccines-is-reckless-plan/Biden says it , if a Hollywood actor or Pro athlete says it, if the CDC says it, it MUST be true. And if any other source says to the contrary, it is immediately written off as conspiracy crap. So many reliable sources out there, showing the folly of all
With all the data that is coming out about these poisonous jabs from RELIABLE sources, this is aboslutely amazing. That it is even being considered, is amazing.
There is no bigger idiot in my book, that takes these jabs without at least making an effort to explore other viewpoints. In the sick world of those who support this poison, and have taken the poison. anything written in favor of the poison is fact. IF
Never took the poison, no one in my family took the poison, my employer never required it. Never wore a mask, never will. Know of no one that has been sick or died from this so called pandemic. If you are a fat disgusting out of shape slob, or someonewith blood pressure of 280, or a diabetic moron that eats a quart of ice cream a day, then maybe you have something to worry about, a friggin cold could kill these clowns.
On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 5:18:09 PM UTC-4, Irving S wrote:new vaccines.
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) tomorrow, June 28, will vote on the “Future Framework,” a scheme that would allow Pfizer and Moderna to “reformulate” COVID-19 mRNA vaccines in perpetuity, without conducting clinical trials on the
IF Biden says it , if a Hollywood actor or Pro athlete says it, if the CDC says it, it MUST be true. And if any other source says to the contrary, it is immediately written off as conspiracy crap. So many reliable sources out there, showing the folly ofhttps://brownstone.org/articles/the-fdas-future-framework-for-covid-vaccines-is-reckless-plan/
With all the data that is coming out about these poisonous jabs from RELIABLE sources, this is aboslutely amazing. That it is even being considered, is amazing.
There is no bigger idiot in my book, that takes these jabs without at least making an effort to explore other viewpoints. In the sick world of those who support this poison, and have taken the poison. anything written in favor of the poison is fact.
someone with blood pressure of 280, or a diabetic moron that eats a quart of ice cream a day, then maybe you have something to worry about, a friggin cold could kill these clowns.Never took the poison, no one in my family took the poison, my employer never required it. Never wore a mask, never will. Know of no one that has been sick or died from this so called pandemic. If you are a fat disgusting out of shape slob, or
Wow, are you a lucky person or what?70s. We have not worn a mask in over a year or restricted activities outside the home. I even taught a high school class!
Most of my family has contracted Covid, none have died. Recently my Atlanta area sister's family has about a dozen cases after one of their kids was baptized with family present. The wife and I have done 4 shots each, no ill effects, and we are in our
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 7:37:55 AM UTC-4, thomas...@gmail.com
wrote:
Wow, are you a lucky person or what?
Most of my family has contracted Covid, none have died. Recently my
Atlanta area sister's family has about a dozen cases after one of
their kids was baptized with family present. The wife and I have
done 4 shots each, no ill effects, and we are in our 70s. We have
not worn a mask in over a year or restricted activities outside the
home. I even taught a high school class!
No luck at all. I am in my late 40s, not a fat slob, go to the gym
3-4 times a week, play golf 2 times a week, BP normal, take VIT D, C
and other supplements. Take no meds, not even a Tylenol, better to
keep as much of this crap out of your system. I was raised very
poor, no dad, mother struggled, and got very very shots. I have
never had the flu shot, never got the flu. I am healthy, why take a
healthy body and put poison in it. I trust my immune system, not
going to do anything to fuck it up.
For someone who comes across relatively intelligent, interesting that
you took 4 shots, I wish you well, but who knows what chaos exists in
your immune system. The next pandemic may destroy you, I surely hope
not. THese are liars,. people that lie at every turn, you trusted
liars. Liars who could care less about public health, that is the
least of their agenda.
On 2022-06-28 10:49, Irving S wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 7:37:55 AM UTC-4, thomas...@gmail.com
wrote:
Wow, are you a lucky person or what?
Most of my family has contracted Covid, none have died. Recently my
Atlanta area sister's family has about a dozen cases after one of
their kids was baptized with family present. The wife and I have
done 4 shots each, no ill effects, and we are in our 70s. We have
not worn a mask in over a year or restricted activities outside the
home. I even taught a high school class!
No luck at all. I am in my late 40s, not a fat slob, go to the gymVaccines aren't poison. They stimulate an immune response.
3-4 times a week, play golf 2 times a week, BP normal, take VIT D, C
and other supplements. Take no meds, not even a Tylenol, better to
keep as much of this crap out of your system. I was raised very
poor, no dad, mother struggled, and got very very shots. I have
never had the flu shot, never got the flu. I am healthy, why take a healthy body and put poison in it. I trust my immune system, not
going to do anything to fuck it up.
For someone who comes across relatively intelligent, interesting thatAnd you know they're the liars, because....
you took 4 shots, I wish you well, but who knows what chaos exists in
your immune system. The next pandemic may destroy you, I surely hope
not. THese are liars,. people that lie at every turn, you trusted
liars. Liars who could care less about public health, that is the
least of their agenda.
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 3:12:15 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-06-28 10:49, Irving S wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 7:37:55 AM UTC-4,Vaccines aren't poison. They stimulate an immune response.
thomas...@gmail.com wrote:
Wow, are you a lucky person or what?
Most of my family has contracted Covid, none have died.
Recently my Atlanta area sister's family has about a dozen
cases after one of their kids was baptized with family present.
The wife and I have done 4 shots each, no ill effects, and we
are in our 70s. We have not worn a mask in over a year or
restricted activities outside the home. I even taught a high
school class!
No luck at all. I am in my late 40s, not a fat slob, go to the
gym 3-4 times a week, play golf 2 times a week, BP normal, take
VIT D, C and other supplements. Take no meds, not even a Tylenol,
better to keep as much of this crap out of your system. I was
raised very poor, no dad, mother struggled, and got very very
shots. I have never had the flu shot, never got the flu. I am
healthy, why take a healthy body and put poison in it. I trust my
immune system, not going to do anything to fuck it up.
And you know they're the liars, because....
For someone who comes across relatively intelligent, interesting
that you took 4 shots, I wish you well, but who knows what chaos
exists in your immune system. The next pandemic may destroy you,
I surely hope not. THese are liars,. people that lie at every
turn, you trusted liars. Liars who could care less about public
health, that is the least of their agenda.
Goodness, you are dense. But what should we expect from someone that
films himself counting money and then posts it for others to see.
Vaccines stimulate an immune response, but there are unintended
consequences from that immune response. When you get a Covid
infection, the spike protein is found in the respiratory tract. When
you get the poison jab, spike proteins are found in organ systems
that would not be found by normal infection. This has been verified
by post mortem autopsies. This causes damage to organs and untoward inflammatory responses. Vaccines contain additives, that are poison
and cause untoward responses. Vaccines can cause blood clots,
strokes, myocarditis, in addtion to an immune response.
You dismiss all evidence that these jabs cause injury and death..
VAERS is way undereported. Even if a tenth of the reports are
correct, that the jab caused injury or death, that would normally be unacceptible. But my twit friend, this is not about public health.
On 2022-06-28 12:46, Irving S wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 3:12:15 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-06-28 10:49, Irving S wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 7:37:55 AM UTC-4,Vaccines aren't poison. They stimulate an immune response.
thomas...@gmail.com wrote:
Wow, are you a lucky person or what?
Most of my family has contracted Covid, none have died.
Recently my Atlanta area sister's family has about a dozen
cases after one of their kids was baptized with family present.
The wife and I have done 4 shots each, no ill effects, and we
are in our 70s. We have not worn a mask in over a year or
restricted activities outside the home. I even taught a high
school class!
No luck at all. I am in my late 40s, not a fat slob, go to the
gym 3-4 times a week, play golf 2 times a week, BP normal, take
VIT D, C and other supplements. Take no meds, not even a Tylenol,
better to keep as much of this crap out of your system. I was
raised very poor, no dad, mother struggled, and got very very
shots. I have never had the flu shot, never got the flu. I am
healthy, why take a healthy body and put poison in it. I trust my
immune system, not going to do anything to fuck it up.
And you know they're the liars, because....
For someone who comes across relatively intelligent, interesting
that you took 4 shots, I wish you well, but who knows what chaos
exists in your immune system. The next pandemic may destroy you,
I surely hope not. THese are liars,. people that lie at every
turn, you trusted liars. Liars who could care less about public
health, that is the least of their agenda.
Goodness, you are dense. But what should we expect from someone that
films himself counting money and then posts it for others to see.
Vaccines stimulate an immune response, but there are unintended consequences from that immune response. When you get a CovidSo you imagine that because the virus only causes its most major damage
infection, the spike protein is found in the respiratory tract. When
you get the poison jab, spike proteins are found in organ systems
that would not be found by normal infection. This has been verified
by post mortem autopsies. This causes damage to organs and untoward inflammatory responses. Vaccines contain additives, that are poison
and cause untoward responses. Vaccines can cause blood clots,
strokes, myocarditis, in addtion to an immune response.
in the lungs...
...that that is the only place in the body that it exists.
How cute!
You dismiss all evidence that these jabs cause injury and death..Canada and the US: two very similar societies.
VAERS is way undereported. Even if a tenth of the reports are
correct, that the jab caused injury or death, that would normally be unacceptible. But my twit friend, this is not about public health.
Only, in Canada only 1,091 people per million died from COVID-19...
...while in the US, that number was 3,112; nearly three times as many,
and the most among any western democracy.
Do you really want to look at the correlation between which party
controls a US state and the number of deaths per million?
I really don't think so.
On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 9:27:25 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-06-28 12:46, Irving S wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 3:12:15 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:So you imagine that because the virus only causes its most major
On 2022-06-28 10:49, Irving S wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 7:37:55 AM UTC-4,Vaccines aren't poison. They stimulate an immune response.
thomas...@gmail.com wrote:
Wow, are you a lucky person or what?
Most of my family has contracted Covid, none have died.
Recently my Atlanta area sister's family has about a dozen
cases after one of their kids was baptized with family
present. The wife and I have done 4 shots each, no ill
effects, and we are in our 70s. We have not worn a mask in
over a year or restricted activities outside the home. I
even taught a high school class!
No luck at all. I am in my late 40s, not a fat slob, go to
the gym 3-4 times a week, play golf 2 times a week, BP
normal, take VIT D, C and other supplements. Take no meds,
not even a Tylenol, better to keep as much of this crap out
of your system. I was raised very poor, no dad, mother
struggled, and got very very shots. I have never had the flu
shot, never got the flu. I am healthy, why take a healthy
body and put poison in it. I trust my immune system, not
going to do anything to fuck it up.
And you know they're the liars, because....
For someone who comes across relatively intelligent,
interesting that you took 4 shots, I wish you well, but who
knows what chaos exists in your immune system. The next
pandemic may destroy you, I surely hope not. THese are
liars,. people that lie at every turn, you trusted liars.
Liars who could care less about public health, that is the
least of their agenda.
Goodness, you are dense. But what should we expect from someone
that films himself counting money and then posts it for others to
see.
Vaccines stimulate an immune response, but there are unintended
consequences from that immune response. When you get a Covid
infection, the spike protein is found in the respiratory tract.
When you get the poison jab, spike proteins are found in organ
systems that would not be found by normal infection. This has
been verified by post mortem autopsies. This causes damage to
organs and untoward inflammatory responses. Vaccines contain
additives, that are poison and cause untoward responses. Vaccines
can cause blood clots, strokes, myocarditis, in addtion to an
immune response.
damage in the lungs...
...that that is the only place in the body that it exists.
How cute!
Canada and the US: two very similar societies.
You dismiss all evidence that these jabs cause injury and
death.. VAERS is way undereported. Even if a tenth of the reports
are correct, that the jab caused injury or death, that would
normally be unacceptible. But my twit friend, this is not about
public health.
Only, in Canada only 1,091 people per million died from
COVID-19...
...while in the US, that number was 3,112; nearly three times as
many, and the most among any western democracy.
Do you really want to look at the correlation between which party
controls a US state and the number of deaths per million?
I really don't think so.
So on the news this am, Portugal and Israel among the most heaviest
vaxed nations per capita. Now experiencing huge outbreaks of
Covid-19. 2+2=4 my friend, the vax runs havoc with your immune
system.
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 7:37:55 AM UTC-4, thomas...@gmail.com wrote:the new vaccines.
On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 5:18:09 PM UTC-4, Irving S wrote:
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) tomorrow, June 28, will vote on the “Future Framework,” a scheme that would allow Pfizer and Moderna to “reformulate” COVID-19 mRNA vaccines in perpetuity, without conducting clinical trials on
IF Biden says it , if a Hollywood actor or Pro athlete says it, if the CDC says it, it MUST be true. And if any other source says to the contrary, it is immediately written off as conspiracy crap. So many reliable sources out there, showing the folly ofhttps://brownstone.org/articles/the-fdas-future-framework-for-covid-vaccines-is-reckless-plan/
With all the data that is coming out about these poisonous jabs from RELIABLE sources, this is aboslutely amazing. That it is even being considered, is amazing.
There is no bigger idiot in my book, that takes these jabs without at least making an effort to explore other viewpoints. In the sick world of those who support this poison, and have taken the poison. anything written in favor of the poison is fact.
someone with blood pressure of 280, or a diabetic moron that eats a quart of ice cream a day, then maybe you have something to worry about, a friggin cold could kill these clowns.Never took the poison, no one in my family took the poison, my employer never required it. Never wore a mask, never will. Know of no one that has been sick or died from this so called pandemic. If you are a fat disgusting out of shape slob, or
our 70s. We have not worn a mask in over a year or restricted activities outside the home. I even taught a high school class!Wow, are you a lucky person or what?
Most of my family has contracted Covid, none have died. Recently my Atlanta area sister's family has about a dozen cases after one of their kids was baptized with family present. The wife and I have done 4 shots each, no ill effects, and we are in
No luck at all. I am in my late 40s, not a fat slob, go to the gym 3-4 times a week, play golf 2 times a week, BP normal, take VIT D, C and other supplements. Take no meds, not even a Tylenol, better to keep as much of this crap out of your system. Iwas raised very poor, no dad, mother struggled, and got very very shots. I have never had the flu shot, never got the flu. I am healthy, why take a healthy body and put poison in it. I trust my immune system, not going to do anything to fuck it up.
For someone who comes across relatively intelligent, interesting that you took 4 shots, I wish you well, but who knows what chaos exists in your immune system. The next pandemic may destroy you, I surely hope not. THese are liars,. people that lie atevery turn, you trusted liars. Liars who could care less about public health, that is the least of their agenda.
===========--------------------------------------------------------
"Im posting another video. According to YouTube, processing the video
has another 26 minutes to go (uploading having been completed some
time
ago). And whatever flaws there were in my first video, it doesn't
attempt to obfuscate, nor is it fraudulent. It clearly showed me
counting out Canadian currency which can't be faked with a scanner, or Photoshop." - Alan Baker
On 2022-06-28 12:46, Irving S wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 3:12:15 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-06-28 10:49, Irving S wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 7:37:55 AM UTC-4,Vaccines aren't poison. They stimulate an immune response.
thomas...@gmail.com wrote:
Wow, are you a lucky person or what?
Most of my family has contracted Covid, none have died.
Recently my Atlanta area sister's family has about a dozen
cases after one of their kids was baptized with family present.
The wife and I have done 4 shots each, no ill effects, and we
are in our 70s. We have not worn a mask in over a year or
restricted activities outside the home. I even taught a high
school class!
No luck at all. I am in my late 40s, not a fat slob, go to the
gym 3-4 times a week, play golf 2 times a week, BP normal, take
VIT D, C and other supplements. Take no meds, not even a Tylenol,
better to keep as much of this crap out of your system. I was
raised very poor, no dad, mother struggled, and got very very
shots. I have never had the flu shot, never got the flu. I am
healthy, why take a healthy body and put poison in it. I trust my
immune system, not going to do anything to fuck it up.
And you know they're the liars, because....
For someone who comes across relatively intelligent, interesting
that you took 4 shots, I wish you well, but who knows what chaos
exists in your immune system. The next pandemic may destroy you,
I surely hope not. THese are liars,. people that lie at every
turn, you trusted liars. Liars who could care less about public
health, that is the least of their agenda.
Goodness, you are dense. But what should we expect from someone that
films himself counting money and then posts it for others to see.
Vaccines stimulate an immune response, but there are unintended consequences from that immune response. When you get a CovidSo you imagine that because the virus only causes its most major damage
infection, the spike protein is found in the respiratory tract. When
you get the poison jab, spike proteins are found in organ systems
that would not be found by normal infection. This has been verified
by post mortem autopsies. This causes damage to organs and untoward inflammatory responses. Vaccines contain additives, that are poison
and cause untoward responses. Vaccines can cause blood clots,
strokes, myocarditis, in addtion to an immune response.
in the lungs...
...that that is the only place in the body that it exists.
How cute!
You dismiss all evidence that these jabs cause injury and death..Canada and the US: two very similar societies.
VAERS is way undereported. Even if a tenth of the reports are
correct, that the jab caused injury or death, that would normally be unacceptible. But my twit friend, this is not about public health.
Only, in Canada only 1,091 people per million died from COVID-19...
...while in the US, that number was 3,112; nearly three times as many,
and the most among any western democracy.
Do you really want to look at the correlation between which party
controls a US state and the number of deaths per million?
I really don't think so.
On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 9:27:25 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-06-28 12:46, Irving S wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 3:12:15 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:So you imagine that because the virus only causes its most major
On 2022-06-28 10:49, Irving S wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 7:37:55 AM UTC-4,Vaccines aren't poison. They stimulate an immune response.
thomas...@gmail.com wrote:
Wow, are you a lucky person or what?
Most of my family has contracted Covid, none have died.
Recently my Atlanta area sister's family has about a dozen
cases after one of their kids was baptized with family
present. The wife and I have done 4 shots each, no ill
effects, and we are in our 70s. We have not worn a mask in
over a year or restricted activities outside the home. I
even taught a high school class!
No luck at all. I am in my late 40s, not a fat slob, go to
the gym 3-4 times a week, play golf 2 times a week, BP
normal, take VIT D, C and other supplements. Take no meds,
not even a Tylenol, better to keep as much of this crap out
of your system. I was raised very poor, no dad, mother
struggled, and got very very shots. I have never had the flu
shot, never got the flu. I am healthy, why take a healthy
body and put poison in it. I trust my immune system, not
going to do anything to fuck it up.
And you know they're the liars, because....
For someone who comes across relatively intelligent,
interesting that you took 4 shots, I wish you well, but who
knows what chaos exists in your immune system. The next
pandemic may destroy you, I surely hope not. THese are
liars,. people that lie at every turn, you trusted liars.
Liars who could care less about public health, that is the
least of their agenda.
Goodness, you are dense. But what should we expect from someone
that films himself counting money and then posts it for others to
see.
Vaccines stimulate an immune response, but there are unintended
consequences from that immune response. When you get a Covid
infection, the spike protein is found in the respiratory tract.
When you get the poison jab, spike proteins are found in organ
systems that would not be found by normal infection. This has
been verified by post mortem autopsies. This causes damage to
organs and untoward inflammatory responses. Vaccines contain
additives, that are poison and cause untoward responses. Vaccines
can cause blood clots, strokes, myocarditis, in addtion to an
immune response.
damage in the lungs...
...that that is the only place in the body that it exists.
How cute!
Canada and the US: two very similar societies.
You dismiss all evidence that these jabs cause injury and
death.. VAERS is way undereported. Even if a tenth of the reports
are correct, that the jab caused injury or death, that would
normally be unacceptible. But my twit friend, this is not about
public health.
Only, in Canada only 1,091 people per million died from
COVID-19...
...while in the US, that number was 3,112; nearly three times as
many, and the most among any western democracy.
Do you really want to look at the correlation between which party
controls a US state and the number of deaths per million?
I really don't think so.
I have looked at it. In the U.S, corrected for total vaccination doses/100,000, their is no statistically significant correlation
between state majority political party and Covid deaths/100,000.
Vaccinations are highly significant with the expected negative sign.
Canada. BC in particular, has a lower death incidence because you had
more stringent countermeasures, likely much better compliance with
same, and a much, much, higher vaccination rate.
So this begs the question, is the political party the cause or the
effect of prevailing societal beliefs and attitudes? Likely some of
both.
Now here in the U.S. we have reached a point where the combination of extensive exposure and vaccines are having the very predictable
effect of creating immune competency. That's no different from past
incidents like this. As Irving points out the question remains as to
whether vaccination will prove to be as effective as natural immunity acquired from unprotected exposure.
You wanted a cite. Here is one for Israel: https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/article-710525 There is a
problem there, but what is it? Other countries with high vaccination
rates are not seeing similar at this time.
On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 9:27:25 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-06-28 12:46, Irving S wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 3:12:15 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:present. >>>> The wife and I have done 4 shots each, no ill
On 2022-06-28 10:49, Irving S wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 7:37:55 AM UTC-4,
thomas...@gmail.com wrote:
Wow, are you a lucky person or what?
Most of my family has contracted Covid, none have died.
Recently my Atlanta area sister's family has about a dozen
cases after one of their kids was baptized with family
effects, and we >>>> are in our 70s. We have not worn a mask in
over a year or >>>> restricted activities outside the home. I even
taught a high >>>> school class!
Tylenol, >>> better to keep as much of this crap out of your
No luck at all. I am in my late 40s, not a fat slob, go to the
gym 3-4 times a week, play golf 2 times a week, BP normal, take
VIT D, C and other supplements. Take no meds, not even a
system. I was >>> raised very poor, no dad, mother struggled, and
got very very >>> shots. I have never had the flu shot, never got
the flu. I am >>> healthy, why take a healthy body and put poison
in it. I trust my >>> immune system, not going to do anything to
fuck it up. >> Vaccines aren't poison. They stimulate an immune
response. >>>
interesting >>> that you took 4 shots, I wish you well, but whoFor someone who comes across relatively intelligent,
knows what chaos >>> exists in your immune system. The next
pandemic may destroy you, >>> I surely hope not. THese are liars,.
people that lie at every >>> turn, you trusted liars. Liars who
could care less about public >>> health, that is the least of their
agenda. >> And you know they're the liars, because....
Goodness, you are dense. But what should we expect from someone
that films himself counting money and then posts it for others to
see.
Vaccines stimulate an immune response, but there are unintended consequences from that immune response. When you get a CovidSo you imagine that because the virus only causes its most major
infection, the spike protein is found in the respiratory tract.
When you get the poison jab, spike proteins are found in organ
systems that would not be found by normal infection. This has
been verified by post mortem autopsies. This causes damage to
organs and untoward inflammatory responses. Vaccines contain
additives, that are poison and cause untoward responses. Vaccines
can cause blood clots, strokes, myocarditis, in addtion to an
immune response.
damage in the lungs...
...that that is the only place in the body that it exists.
How cute!
You dismiss all evidence that these jabs cause injury and death..Canada and the US: two very similar societies.
VAERS is way undereported. Even if a tenth of the reports are
correct, that the jab caused injury or death, that would normally
be unacceptible. But my twit friend, this is not about public
health.
Only, in Canada only 1,091 people per million died from COVID-19...
...while in the US, that number was 3,112; nearly three times as
many, and the most among any western democracy.
Do you really want to look at the correlation between which party
controls a US state and the number of deaths per million?
I really don't think so.
I have looked at it. In the U.S, corrected for total vaccination doses/100,000, their is no statistically significant correlation
between state majority political party and Covid deaths/100,000.
Vaccinations are highly significant with the expected negative sign.
Canada. BC in particular, has a lower death incidence because you had
more stringent countermeasures, likely much better compliance with
same, and a much, much, higher vaccination rate.
Tom Elam wrote:
On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 9:27:25 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-06-28 12:46, Irving S wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 3:12:15 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:present. >>>> The wife and I have done 4 shots each, no ill
On 2022-06-28 10:49, Irving S wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 7:37:55 AM UTC-4,
thomas...@gmail.com wrote:
Wow, are you a lucky person or what?
Most of my family has contracted Covid, none have died.
Recently my Atlanta area sister's family has about a dozen
cases after one of their kids was baptized with family
effects, and we >>>> are in our 70s. We have not worn a mask in
over a year or >>>> restricted activities outside the home. I even
taught a high >>>> school class!
Tylenol, >>> better to keep as much of this crap out of your
No luck at all. I am in my late 40s, not a fat slob, go to the
gym 3-4 times a week, play golf 2 times a week, BP normal, take
VIT D, C and other supplements. Take no meds, not even a
system. I was >>> raised very poor, no dad, mother struggled, and
got very very >>> shots. I have never had the flu shot, never got
the flu. I am >>> healthy, why take a healthy body and put poison
in it. I trust my >>> immune system, not going to do anything to
fuck it up. >> Vaccines aren't poison. They stimulate an immune
response. >>>
interesting >>> that you took 4 shots, I wish you well, but whoFor someone who comes across relatively intelligent,
knows what chaos >>> exists in your immune system. The next
pandemic may destroy you, >>> I surely hope not. THese are liars,.
people that lie at every >>> turn, you trusted liars. Liars who
could care less about public >>> health, that is the least of their agenda. >> And you know they're the liars, because....
Goodness, you are dense. But what should we expect from someone
that films himself counting money and then posts it for others to
see.
Vaccines stimulate an immune response, but there are unintended consequences from that immune response. When you get a CovidSo you imagine that because the virus only causes its most major
infection, the spike protein is found in the respiratory tract.
When you get the poison jab, spike proteins are found in organ
systems that would not be found by normal infection. This has
been verified by post mortem autopsies. This causes damage to
organs and untoward inflammatory responses. Vaccines contain
additives, that are poison and cause untoward responses. Vaccines
can cause blood clots, strokes, myocarditis, in addtion to an
immune response.
damage in the lungs...
...that that is the only place in the body that it exists.
How cute!
You dismiss all evidence that these jabs cause injury and death..Canada and the US: two very similar societies.
VAERS is way undereported. Even if a tenth of the reports are
correct, that the jab caused injury or death, that would normally
be unacceptible. But my twit friend, this is not about public
health.
Only, in Canada only 1,091 people per million died from COVID-19...
...while in the US, that number was 3,112; nearly three times as
many, and the most among any western democracy.
Do you really want to look at the correlation between which party controls a US state and the number of deaths per million?
I really don't think so.
I have looked at it. In the U.S, corrected for total vaccination doses/100,000, their is no statistically significant correlation
between state majority political party and Covid deaths/100,000. Vaccinations are highly significant with the expected negative sign. Canada. BC in particular, has a lower death incidence because you had
more stringent countermeasures, likely much better compliance with
same, and a much, much, higher vaccination rate.
That sounds like what you found is that there is a correlation between
party control and effective countermeasures.
On 2022-07-02 07:56, Tom Elam wrote:
On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 9:27:25 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-06-28 12:46, Irving S wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 3:12:15 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:So you imagine that because the virus only causes its most major
On 2022-06-28 10:49, Irving S wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 7:37:55 AM UTC-4,Vaccines aren't poison. They stimulate an immune response.
thomas...@gmail.com wrote:
Wow, are you a lucky person or what?
Most of my family has contracted Covid, none have died.
Recently my Atlanta area sister's family has about a dozen
cases after one of their kids was baptized with family
present. The wife and I have done 4 shots each, no ill
effects, and we are in our 70s. We have not worn a mask in
over a year or restricted activities outside the home. I
even taught a high school class!
No luck at all. I am in my late 40s, not a fat slob, go to
the gym 3-4 times a week, play golf 2 times a week, BP
normal, take VIT D, C and other supplements. Take no meds,
not even a Tylenol, better to keep as much of this crap out
of your system. I was raised very poor, no dad, mother
struggled, and got very very shots. I have never had the flu
shot, never got the flu. I am healthy, why take a healthy
body and put poison in it. I trust my immune system, not
going to do anything to fuck it up.
And you know they're the liars, because....
For someone who comes across relatively intelligent,
interesting that you took 4 shots, I wish you well, but who
knows what chaos exists in your immune system. The next
pandemic may destroy you, I surely hope not. THese are
liars,. people that lie at every turn, you trusted liars.
Liars who could care less about public health, that is the
least of their agenda.
Goodness, you are dense. But what should we expect from someone
that films himself counting money and then posts it for others to
see.
Vaccines stimulate an immune response, but there are unintended
consequences from that immune response. When you get a Covid
infection, the spike protein is found in the respiratory tract.
When you get the poison jab, spike proteins are found in organ
systems that would not be found by normal infection. This has
been verified by post mortem autopsies. This causes damage to
organs and untoward inflammatory responses. Vaccines contain
additives, that are poison and cause untoward responses. Vaccines
can cause blood clots, strokes, myocarditis, in addtion to an
immune response.
damage in the lungs...
...that that is the only place in the body that it exists.
How cute!
Canada and the US: two very similar societies.
You dismiss all evidence that these jabs cause injury and
death.. VAERS is way undereported. Even if a tenth of the reports
are correct, that the jab caused injury or death, that would
normally be unacceptible. But my twit friend, this is not about
public health.
Only, in Canada only 1,091 people per million died from
COVID-19...
...while in the US, that number was 3,112; nearly three times as
many, and the most among any western democracy.
Do you really want to look at the correlation between which party
controls a US state and the number of deaths per million?
I really don't think so.
I have looked at it. In the U.S, corrected for total vaccination doses/100,000, their is no statistically significant correlationA known liar says he's "looked at it" and that's an end of it, is it?
between state majority political party and Covid deaths/100,000. Vaccinations are highly significant with the expected negative sign. Canada. BC in particular, has a lower death incidence because you had
more stringent countermeasures, likely much better compliance with
same, and a much, much, higher vaccination rate.
But let's "look at" how well you've "looked at it", shall we?
The top 10 US states for COVID deaths per million are:
1 Mississippi (Rep. governor, Rep. legislature)
2 Arizona (Rep. governor, Rep. legislature)
3 Alabama (Rep. governor, Rep. legislature)
4 West Virginia (Rep. governor, Rep. legislature)
5 Tennessee (Rep. governor, Rep. legislature)
6 Arkansas (Rep. governor, Rep. legislature)
7 New Jersey (Dem. governor, Dem. legislature)
8 New Mexico (Dem. governor, Dem. legislature)
9 Louisiana (Dem. governor, Rep. legislature)
10 Michigan (Dem. governor, Rep. legislature)
Now: Which party dominates?
So this begs the question, is the political party the cause or the
effect of prevailing societal beliefs and attitudes? Likely some of
both.
Now here in the U.S. we have reached a point where the combination of extensive exposure and vaccines are having the very predictableGiving credence to anything Irving/Felicity/<half a dozen other nyms>?
effect of creating immune competency. That's no different from past incidents like this. As Irving points out the question remains as to whether vaccination will prove to be as effective as natural immunity acquired from unprotected exposure.
You wanted a cite. Here is one for Israel: https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/article-710525 There is a problem there, but what is it? Other countries with high vaccinationHow does that illuminate the question?
rates are not seeing similar at this time.
Does the majority political party determine the behavior of the
state's population OR does the population determine the majority
political party?
On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 5:48:20 PM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:
Tom Elam wrote:
On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 9:27:25 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-06-28 12:46, Irving S wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 3:12:15 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:present. >>>> The wife and I have done 4 shots each, no ill
On 2022-06-28 10:49, Irving S wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 7:37:55 AM UTC-4,
thomas...@gmail.com wrote:
Wow, are you a lucky person or what?
Most of my family has contracted Covid, none have died.
Recently my Atlanta area sister's family has about a dozen
cases after one of their kids was baptized with family
effects, and we >>>> are in our 70s. We have not worn a mask in
over a year or >>>> restricted activities outside the home. I
even taught a high >>>> school class!
the >>> gym 3-4 times a week, play golf 2 times a week, BP
No luck at all. I am in my late 40s, not a fat slob, go to
normal, take >>> VIT D, C and other supplements. Take no meds,
not even a Tylenol, >>> better to keep as much of this crap out
of your system. I was >>> raised very poor, no dad, mother
struggled, and got very very >>> shots. I have never had the
flu shot, never got the flu. I am >>> healthy, why take a
healthy body and put poison in it. I trust my >>> immune
system, not going to do anything to fuck it up. >> Vaccines
aren't poison. They stimulate an immune response. >>>
interesting >>> that you took 4 shots, I wish you well, but whoFor someone who comes across relatively intelligent,
knows what chaos >>> exists in your immune system. The next
pandemic may destroy you, >>> I surely hope not. THese are
liars,. people that lie at every >>> turn, you trusted liars.
Liars who could care less about public >>> health, that is the
least of their agenda. >> And you know they're the liars,
because....
Goodness, you are dense. But what should we expect from
someone that films himself counting money and then posts it
for others to see.
Vaccines stimulate an immune response, but there areSo you imagine that because the virus only causes its most
unintended consequences from that immune response. When you
get a Covid infection, the spike protein is found in the
respiratory tract. When you get the poison jab, spike
proteins are found in organ systems that would not be found
by normal infection. This has been verified by post mortem
autopsies. This causes damage to organs and untoward
inflammatory responses. Vaccines contain additives, that are
poison and cause untoward responses. Vaccines can cause blood
clots, strokes, myocarditis, in addtion to an immune
response.
major damage in the lungs...
...that that is the only place in the body that it exists.
How cute!
You dismiss all evidence that these jabs cause injury andCanada and the US: two very similar societies.
death.. VAERS is way undereported. Even if a tenth of the
reports are correct, that the jab caused injury or death,
that would normally be unacceptible. But my twit friend, this
is not about public health.
Only, in Canada only 1,091 people per million died from
COVID-19...
...while in the US, that number was 3,112; nearly three times
as many, and the most among any western democracy.
Do you really want to look at the correlation between which
party controls a US state and the number of deaths per million?
I really don't think so.
I have looked at it. In the U.S, corrected for total vaccination doses/100,000, their is no statistically significant correlation
between state majority political party and Covid deaths/100,000. Vaccinations are highly significant with the expected negative
sign. Canada. BC in particular, has a lower death incidence
because you had more stringent countermeasures, likely much
better compliance with same, and a much, much, higher vaccination
rate.
That sounds like what you found is that there is a correlation
between party control and effective countermeasures.
No, what I found has to to with underlying voter behavior and beliefs
that result in the majority political party. If you want to "fix" it
you need to "fix" behavior, not the governor.
Tom Elam wrote:
Does the majority political party determine the behavior of theIt is such limited assertions that totally undermine your whole
state's population OR does the population determine the majority
political party?
position and likely the assumption you have made in your general
hypothesis.
Who is to say these are mutually exclusive.
In 2016 many voters literally picked a side/party/tribe and let that determine their position on many factors and likewise state precautions
or lack thereof.
You think it an accident that most anti-vaxxers were/are Trumpers and
most pro-vaccination were independent/democrat?
--
Bozo Bin
Alan Baker
Texasgate
On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 2:06:32 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-07-02 07:56, Tom Elam wrote:
On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 9:27:25 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:A known liar says he's "looked at it" and that's an end of it, is
On 2022-06-28 12:46, Irving S wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 3:12:15 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:So you imagine that because the virus only causes its most
On 2022-06-28 10:49, Irving S wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 7:37:55 AM UTC-4,Vaccines aren't poison. They stimulate an immune response.
thomas...@gmail.com wrote:
Wow, are you a lucky person or what?
Most of my family has contracted Covid, none have
died. Recently my Atlanta area sister's family has
about a dozen cases after one of their kids was
baptized with family present. The wife and I have done
4 shots each, no ill effects, and we are in our 70s. We
have not worn a mask in over a year or restricted
activities outside the home. I even taught a high
school class!
No luck at all. I am in my late 40s, not a fat slob, go
to the gym 3-4 times a week, play golf 2 times a week,
BP normal, take VIT D, C and other supplements. Take no
meds, not even a Tylenol, better to keep as much of this
crap out of your system. I was raised very poor, no dad,
mother struggled, and got very very shots. I have never
had the flu shot, never got the flu. I am healthy, why
take a healthy body and put poison in it. I trust my
immune system, not going to do anything to fuck it up.
And you know they're the liars, because....
For someone who comes across relatively intelligent,
interesting that you took 4 shots, I wish you well, but
who knows what chaos exists in your immune system. The
next pandemic may destroy you, I surely hope not. THese
are liars,. people that lie at every turn, you trusted
liars. Liars who could care less about public health,
that is the least of their agenda.
Goodness, you are dense. But what should we expect from
someone that films himself counting money and then posts it
for others to see.
Vaccines stimulate an immune response, but there are
unintended consequences from that immune response. When you
get a Covid infection, the spike protein is found in the
respiratory tract. When you get the poison jab, spike
proteins are found in organ systems that would not be found
by normal infection. This has been verified by post mortem
autopsies. This causes damage to organs and untoward
inflammatory responses. Vaccines contain additives, that are
poison and cause untoward responses. Vaccines can cause blood
clots, strokes, myocarditis, in addtion to an immune
response.
major damage in the lungs...
...that that is the only place in the body that it exists.
How cute!
Canada and the US: two very similar societies.
You dismiss all evidence that these jabs cause injury and
death.. VAERS is way undereported. Even if a tenth of the
reports are correct, that the jab caused injury or death,
that would normally be unacceptible. But my twit friend, this
is not about public health.
Only, in Canada only 1,091 people per million died from
COVID-19...
...while in the US, that number was 3,112; nearly three times
as many, and the most among any western democracy.
Do you really want to look at the correlation between which
party controls a US state and the number of deaths per
million?
I really don't think so.
I have looked at it. In the U.S, corrected for total vaccination
doses/100,000, their is no statistically significant correlation
between state majority political party and Covid deaths/100,000.
Vaccinations are highly significant with the expected negative
sign. Canada. BC in particular, has a lower death incidence
because you had more stringent countermeasures, likely much
better compliance with same, and a much, much, higher vaccination
rate.
it?
But let's "look at" how well you've "looked at it", shall we?
The top 10 US states for COVID deaths per million are:
1 Mississippi (Rep. governor, Rep. legislature) 2 Arizona (Rep.
governor, Rep. legislature) 3 Alabama (Rep. governor, Rep.
legislature) 4 West Virginia (Rep. governor, Rep. legislature) 5
Tennessee (Rep. governor, Rep. legislature) 6 Arkansas (Rep.
governor, Rep. legislature) 7 New Jersey (Dem. governor, Dem.
legislature) 8 New Mexico (Dem. governor, Dem. legislature) 9
Louisiana (Dem. governor, Rep. legislature) 10 Michigan (Dem.
governor, Rep. legislature)
Now: Which party dominates?
Giving credence to anything Irving/Felicity/<half a dozen other
So this begs the question, is the political party the cause or
the effect of prevailing societal beliefs and attitudes? Likely
some of both.
Now here in the U.S. we have reached a point where the
combination of extensive exposure and vaccines are having the
very predictable effect of creating immune competency. That's no
different from past incidents like this. As Irving points out the
question remains as to whether vaccination will prove to be as
effective as natural immunity acquired from unprotected
exposure.
nyms>?
How does that illuminate the question?
You wanted a cite. Here is one for Israel:
https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/article-710525 There is
a problem there, but what is it? Other countries with high
vaccination rates are not seeing similar at this time.
First, your last point: How does that illuminate the question? The
point that high vaccination rates are causing breakthrough cases is
not consistent. Irving is wrong, yet again. I helped make your point.
Are you so blind that you can't see beyond your hatred?
The rest:
You simpleton! I absolutely knew you would do exactly what you did
and just show raw data on political party. You missed the point
entirely. There are other factors at play.
Does the majority political party determine the behavior of the
state's population OR does the population determine the majority
political party? Second point: There are other factors at play, the
most important of which is vaccination. Does majority political party determine vaccination acceptance or is that determined by population
beliefs?
I pasted in a regression equation below. It's going to be hard to
read, so here is a link to a JPG image: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dQB6VJhXtDE86HsIIo5jNpYtuzMKaNLX/view?usp=sharing
When corrected for vaccination rate, population 75 and over and
population density the fact that there is a Democratic governor has
no statistically significant effect (t = 1.08, F = 0.2868) on Covid
death rate. To the tiny effect it does have the effect is vanishingly positive, not negative. Vaccination had a 7.99 t score an F of less
than 0.0001. Age and population density demographics also play a
role, and are statistically significant, but are not affected by
population behavior over a short period of time.
If you can't read a regression equation then go figure it out before
going off on me. Be sure to the read the last paragraph too!
Equation:
N = 50 Mean of Y = 25390.5 Equation: COVID-19 Deaths per 1,000,000 = 5.367e+04 - 2.917e+04 VaccinesAdministered as % of Pop. + 2.24e+05
Pct. Population 75 and Over + 16.28 Population/Sq Mile + 1609
Democratic Governor? R² 0.624 R² adjusted 0.590 RMSE 4752.77
Parameter Estimate 95% CI SE t p-value Constant 53669 41397 to
65941 6092.9 8.81 <0.0001 VaccinesAdministered as % of Pop. -29165 -36515 to -21816 3648.8 -7.99 <0.0001 Pct. Population 75 and Over
224009 80361 to 367658 71321 3.14 0.0030 Population/Sq Mile 16.28
10.19 to 22.37 3.0256 5.38 <0.0001 Democratic Governor? 1609 -1397 to
4615 1492.6 1.08 0.2868
Now, go get your own data, do the work, and show otherwise. But
before you do that know that this equation actually strongly supports
your underlying case in this thread.
Points: The "Red" state populations tend to elect Republicans and
have also tended to be less accepting of Covid vaccination. Majority political party is the effect, not the cause! The underlying cause
here is people's behavior, not the governor or legislature. If you
want to "fix" this you need to "fix" the people who voted for the
majority political party! People like Irving are the cause.
On 2022-07-03 06:35, Tom Elam wrote:
On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 2:06:32 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-07-02 07:56, Tom Elam wrote:
On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 9:27:25 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:A known liar says he's "looked at it" and that's an end of it, is
On 2022-06-28 12:46, Irving S wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 3:12:15 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:So you imagine that because the virus only causes its most
On 2022-06-28 10:49, Irving S wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 7:37:55 AM UTC-4,Vaccines aren't poison. They stimulate an immune response.
thomas...@gmail.com wrote:
Wow, are you a lucky person or what?
Most of my family has contracted Covid, none have
died. Recently my Atlanta area sister's family has
about a dozen cases after one of their kids was
baptized with family present. The wife and I have done
4 shots each, no ill effects, and we are in our 70s. We
have not worn a mask in over a year or restricted
activities outside the home. I even taught a high
school class!
No luck at all. I am in my late 40s, not a fat slob, go
to the gym 3-4 times a week, play golf 2 times a week,
BP normal, take VIT D, C and other supplements. Take no
meds, not even a Tylenol, better to keep as much of this
crap out of your system. I was raised very poor, no dad,
mother struggled, and got very very shots. I have never
had the flu shot, never got the flu. I am healthy, why
take a healthy body and put poison in it. I trust my
immune system, not going to do anything to fuck it up.
And you know they're the liars, because....
For someone who comes across relatively intelligent,
interesting that you took 4 shots, I wish you well, but
who knows what chaos exists in your immune system. The
next pandemic may destroy you, I surely hope not. THese
are liars,. people that lie at every turn, you trusted
liars. Liars who could care less about public health,
that is the least of their agenda.
Goodness, you are dense. But what should we expect from
someone that films himself counting money and then posts it
for others to see.
Vaccines stimulate an immune response, but there are
unintended consequences from that immune response. When you
get a Covid infection, the spike protein is found in the
respiratory tract. When you get the poison jab, spike
proteins are found in organ systems that would not be found
by normal infection. This has been verified by post mortem
autopsies. This causes damage to organs and untoward
inflammatory responses. Vaccines contain additives, that are
poison and cause untoward responses. Vaccines can cause blood
clots, strokes, myocarditis, in addtion to an immune
response.
major damage in the lungs...
...that that is the only place in the body that it exists.
How cute!
Canada and the US: two very similar societies.
You dismiss all evidence that these jabs cause injury and
death.. VAERS is way undereported. Even if a tenth of the
reports are correct, that the jab caused injury or death,
that would normally be unacceptible. But my twit friend, this
is not about public health.
Only, in Canada only 1,091 people per million died from
COVID-19...
...while in the US, that number was 3,112; nearly three times
as many, and the most among any western democracy.
Do you really want to look at the correlation between which
party controls a US state and the number of deaths per
million?
I really don't think so.
I have looked at it. In the U.S, corrected for total vaccination
doses/100,000, their is no statistically significant correlation
between state majority political party and Covid deaths/100,000.
Vaccinations are highly significant with the expected negative
sign. Canada. BC in particular, has a lower death incidence
because you had more stringent countermeasures, likely much
better compliance with same, and a much, much, higher vaccination
rate.
it?
But let's "look at" how well you've "looked at it", shall we?
The top 10 US states for COVID deaths per million are:
1 Mississippi (Rep. governor, Rep. legislature) 2 Arizona (Rep.
governor, Rep. legislature) 3 Alabama (Rep. governor, Rep.
legislature) 4 West Virginia (Rep. governor, Rep. legislature) 5
Tennessee (Rep. governor, Rep. legislature) 6 Arkansas (Rep.
governor, Rep. legislature) 7 New Jersey (Dem. governor, Dem.
legislature) 8 New Mexico (Dem. governor, Dem. legislature) 9
Louisiana (Dem. governor, Rep. legislature) 10 Michigan (Dem.
governor, Rep. legislature)
Now: Which party dominates?
Giving credence to anything Irving/Felicity/<half a dozen other
So this begs the question, is the political party the cause or
the effect of prevailing societal beliefs and attitudes? Likely
some of both.
Now here in the U.S. we have reached a point where the
combination of extensive exposure and vaccines are having the
very predictable effect of creating immune competency. That's no
different from past incidents like this. As Irving points out the
question remains as to whether vaccination will prove to be as
effective as natural immunity acquired from unprotected
exposure.
nyms>?
How does that illuminate the question?
You wanted a cite. Here is one for Israel:
https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/article-710525 There is
a problem there, but what is it? Other countries with high
vaccination rates are not seeing similar at this time.
First, your last point: How does that illuminate the question? The
point that high vaccination rates are causing breakthrough cases is
not consistent. Irving is wrong, yet again. I helped make your point.
Are you so blind that you can't see beyond your hatred?
The rest:
You simpleton! I absolutely knew you would do exactly what you did
and just show raw data on political party. You missed the point
entirely. There are other factors at play.
Does the majority political party determine the behavior of theYou simpleton!
state's population OR does the population determine the majority
political party? Second point: There are other factors at play, the
most important of which is vaccination. Does majority political party determine vaccination acceptance or is that determined by population beliefs?
Did I say that there was a causation relationship between political
party and death rates?
No.
I pasted in a regression equation below. It's going to be hard to
read, so here is a link to a JPG image: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dQB6VJhXtDE86HsIIo5jNpYtuzMKaNLX/view?usp=sharing
When corrected for vaccination rate, population 75 and over andOnly the governor, huh?
population density the fact that there is a Democratic governor has
no statistically significant effect (t = 1.08, F = 0.2868) on Covid
death rate. To the tiny effect it does have the effect is vanishingly positive, not negative. Vaccination had a 7.99 t score an F of less
than 0.0001. Age and population density demographics also play a
role, and are statistically significant, but are not affected by population behavior over a short period of time.
Interesting sudden restriction on the question.
If you can't read a regression equation then go figure it out before
going off on me. Be sure to the read the last paragraph too!
Equation:
N = 50 Mean of Y = 25390.5 Equation: COVID-19 Deaths per 1,000,000 = 5.367e+04 - 2.917e+04 VaccinesAdministered as % of Pop. + 2.24e+05
Pct. Population 75 and Over + 16.28 Population/Sq Mile + 1609
Democratic Governor? R² 0.624 R² adjusted 0.590 RMSE 4752.77
Parameter Estimate 95% CI SE t p-value Constant 53669 41397 to
65941 6092.9 8.81 <0.0001 VaccinesAdministered as % of Pop. -29165
-36515 to -21816 3648.8 -7.99 <0.0001 Pct. Population 75 and Over
224009 80361 to 367658 71321 3.14 0.0030 Population/Sq Mile 16.28
10.19 to 22.37 3.0256 5.38 <0.0001 Democratic Governor? 1609 -1397 to
4615 1492.6 1.08 0.2868
Now, go get your own data, do the work, and show otherwise. But
before you do that know that this equation actually strongly supports
your underlying case in this thread.
Points: The "Red" state populations tend to elect Republicans andI never said majority political party was the cause, Liarboy.
have also tended to be less accepting of Covid vaccination. Majority political party is the effect, not the cause! The underlying cause
here is people's behavior, not the governor or legislature. If you
want to "fix" this you need to "fix" the people who voted for the
majority political party! People like Irving are the cause.
Learn to read.
On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 3:55:32 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-07-03 06:35, Tom Elam wrote:
On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 2:06:32 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:You simpleton!
On 2022-07-02 07:56, Tom Elam wrote:
On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 9:27:25 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:A known liar says he's "looked at it" and that's an end of it, is
On 2022-06-28 12:46, Irving S wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 3:12:15 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:So you imagine that because the virus only causes its most
On 2022-06-28 10:49, Irving S wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 7:37:55 AM UTC-4,Vaccines aren't poison. They stimulate an immune response.
thomas...@gmail.com wrote:
Wow, are you a lucky person or what?
Most of my family has contracted Covid, none have
died. Recently my Atlanta area sister's family has
about a dozen cases after one of their kids was
baptized with family present. The wife and I have done
4 shots each, no ill effects, and we are in our 70s. We
have not worn a mask in over a year or restricted
activities outside the home. I even taught a high
school class!
No luck at all. I am in my late 40s, not a fat slob, go
to the gym 3-4 times a week, play golf 2 times a week,
BP normal, take VIT D, C and other supplements. Take no
meds, not even a Tylenol, better to keep as much of this
crap out of your system. I was raised very poor, no dad,
mother struggled, and got very very shots. I have never
had the flu shot, never got the flu. I am healthy, why
take a healthy body and put poison in it. I trust my
immune system, not going to do anything to fuck it up.
And you know they're the liars, because....
For someone who comes across relatively intelligent,
interesting that you took 4 shots, I wish you well, but
who knows what chaos exists in your immune system. The
next pandemic may destroy you, I surely hope not. THese
are liars,. people that lie at every turn, you trusted
liars. Liars who could care less about public health,
that is the least of their agenda.
Goodness, you are dense. But what should we expect from
someone that films himself counting money and then posts it
for others to see.
Vaccines stimulate an immune response, but there are
unintended consequences from that immune response. When you
get a Covid infection, the spike protein is found in the
respiratory tract. When you get the poison jab, spike
proteins are found in organ systems that would not be found
by normal infection. This has been verified by post mortem
autopsies. This causes damage to organs and untoward
inflammatory responses. Vaccines contain additives, that are
poison and cause untoward responses. Vaccines can cause blood
clots, strokes, myocarditis, in addtion to an immune
response.
major damage in the lungs...
...that that is the only place in the body that it exists.
How cute!
Canada and the US: two very similar societies.
You dismiss all evidence that these jabs cause injury and
death.. VAERS is way undereported. Even if a tenth of the
reports are correct, that the jab caused injury or death,
that would normally be unacceptible. But my twit friend, this
is not about public health.
Only, in Canada only 1,091 people per million died from
COVID-19...
...while in the US, that number was 3,112; nearly three times
as many, and the most among any western democracy.
Do you really want to look at the correlation between which
party controls a US state and the number of deaths per
million?
I really don't think so.
I have looked at it. In the U.S, corrected for total vaccination
doses/100,000, their is no statistically significant correlation
between state majority political party and Covid deaths/100,000.
Vaccinations are highly significant with the expected negative
sign. Canada. BC in particular, has a lower death incidence
because you had more stringent countermeasures, likely much
better compliance with same, and a much, much, higher vaccination
rate.
it?
But let's "look at" how well you've "looked at it", shall we?
The top 10 US states for COVID deaths per million are:
1 Mississippi (Rep. governor, Rep. legislature) 2 Arizona (Rep.
governor, Rep. legislature) 3 Alabama (Rep. governor, Rep.
legislature) 4 West Virginia (Rep. governor, Rep. legislature) 5
Tennessee (Rep. governor, Rep. legislature) 6 Arkansas (Rep.
governor, Rep. legislature) 7 New Jersey (Dem. governor, Dem.
legislature) 8 New Mexico (Dem. governor, Dem. legislature) 9
Louisiana (Dem. governor, Rep. legislature) 10 Michigan (Dem.
governor, Rep. legislature)
Now: Which party dominates?
Giving credence to anything Irving/Felicity/<half a dozen other
So this begs the question, is the political party the cause or
the effect of prevailing societal beliefs and attitudes? Likely
some of both.
Now here in the U.S. we have reached a point where the
combination of extensive exposure and vaccines are having the
very predictable effect of creating immune competency. That's no
different from past incidents like this. As Irving points out the
question remains as to whether vaccination will prove to be as
effective as natural immunity acquired from unprotected
exposure.
nyms>?
How does that illuminate the question?
You wanted a cite. Here is one for Israel:
https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/article-710525 There is
a problem there, but what is it? Other countries with high
vaccination rates are not seeing similar at this time.
First, your last point: How does that illuminate the question? The
point that high vaccination rates are causing breakthrough cases is
not consistent. Irving is wrong, yet again. I helped make your point.
Are you so blind that you can't see beyond your hatred?
The rest:
You simpleton! I absolutely knew you would do exactly what you did
and just show raw data on political party. You missed the point
entirely. There are other factors at play.
Does the majority political party determine the behavior of the
state's population OR does the population determine the majority
political party? Second point: There are other factors at play, the
most important of which is vaccination. Does majority political party
determine vaccination acceptance or is that determined by population
beliefs?
Did I say that there was a causation relationship between political
party and death rates?
No.
Only the governor, huh?
I pasted in a regression equation below. It's going to be hard to
read, so here is a link to a JPG image:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dQB6VJhXtDE86HsIIo5jNpYtuzMKaNLX/view?usp=sharing
When corrected for vaccination rate, population 75 and over and
population density the fact that there is a Democratic governor has
no statistically significant effect (t = 1.08, F = 0.2868) on Covid
death rate. To the tiny effect it does have the effect is vanishingly
positive, not negative. Vaccination had a 7.99 t score an F of less
than 0.0001. Age and population density demographics also play a
role, and are statistically significant, but are not affected by
population behavior over a short period of time.
Interesting sudden restriction on the question.
I never said majority political party was the cause, Liarboy.
If you can't read a regression equation then go figure it out before
going off on me. Be sure to the read the last paragraph too!
Equation:
N = 50 Mean of Y = 25390.5 Equation: COVID-19 Deaths per 1,000,000 =
5.367e+04 - 2.917e+04 VaccinesAdministered as % of Pop. + 2.24e+05
Pct. Population 75 and Over + 16.28 Population/Sq Mile + 1609
Democratic Governor? R² 0.624 R² adjusted 0.590 RMSE 4752.77
Parameter Estimate 95% CI SE t p-value Constant 53669 41397 to
65941 6092.9 8.81 <0.0001 VaccinesAdministered as % of Pop. -29165
-36515 to -21816 3648.8 -7.99 <0.0001 Pct. Population 75 and Over
224009 80361 to 367658 71321 3.14 0.0030 Population/Sq Mile 16.28
10.19 to 22.37 3.0256 5.38 <0.0001 Democratic Governor? 1609 -1397 to
4615 1492.6 1.08 0.2868
Now, go get your own data, do the work, and show otherwise. But
before you do that know that this equation actually strongly supports
your underlying case in this thread.
Points: The "Red" state populations tend to elect Republicans and
have also tended to be less accepting of Covid vaccination. Majority
political party is the effect, not the cause! The underlying cause
here is people's behavior, not the governor or legislature. If you
want to "fix" this you need to "fix" the people who voted for the
majority political party! People like Irving are the cause.
Learn to read.
Alan, what a short memory you have. From you just above:
The top 10 US states for COVID deaths per million are:
1 Mississippi (Rep. governor, Rep. legislature)
2 Arizona (Rep. governor, Rep. legislature)
3 Alabama (Rep. governor, Rep. legislature)
4 West Virginia (Rep. governor, Rep. legislature)
5 Tennessee (Rep. governor, Rep. legislature)
6 Arkansas (Rep. governor, Rep. legislature)
7 New Jersey (Dem. governor, Dem. legislature)
8 New Mexico (Dem. governor, Dem. legislature)
9 Louisiana (Dem. governor, Rep. legislature)
10 Michigan (Dem. governor, Rep. legislature)
Now: Which party dominates?
You with 8 of the 10 having a Republican legislature you are implying that the Republican party caused higher death rates.
On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 10:34:13 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:
Tom Elam wrote:
Does the majority political party determine the behavior of theIt is such limited assertions that totally undermine your whole
state's population OR does the population determine the majority political party?
position and likely the assumption you have made in your general hypothesis.
Who is to say these are mutually exclusive.
In 2016 many voters literally picked a side/party/tribe and let
that determine their position on many factors and likewise state precautions or lack thereof.
You think it an accident that most anti-vaxxers were/are Trumpers
and most pro-vaccination were independent/democrat?
You just made my point.
Tom Elam wrote:
On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 10:34:13 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:
Tom Elam wrote:
Does the majority political party determine the behavior of theIt is such limited assertions that totally undermine your whole
state's population OR does the population determine the majority political party?
position and likely the assumption you have made in your general hypothesis.
Who is to say these are mutually exclusive.
In 2016 many voters literally picked a side/party/tribe and let
that determine their position on many factors and likewise state precautions or lack thereof.
You think it an accident that most anti-vaxxers were/are Trumpers
and most pro-vaccination were independent/democrat?
You just made my point.If you think that then it just shows how confused you are about what
you are trying to claim; I am unsurprised as it is rather contrived.
You claim republican anti-vaxxers thinking is independent of the
Republican leadership while clearly they were heavily influenced by
Trump and his rhetoric. Rep governors pandering to Trump and his
followers did a worse job of controlling infection.
On 2022-07-05 10:15, Tom Elam wrote:
On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 3:55:32 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-07-03 06:35, Tom Elam wrote:
On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 2:06:32 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:You simpleton!
On 2022-07-02 07:56, Tom Elam wrote:
On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 9:27:25 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:A known liar says he's "looked at it" and that's an end of it, is
On 2022-06-28 12:46, Irving S wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 3:12:15 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:So you imagine that because the virus only causes its most
On 2022-06-28 10:49, Irving S wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 7:37:55 AM UTC-4,Vaccines aren't poison. They stimulate an immune response. >>>>>>>>>
thomas...@gmail.com wrote:
Wow, are you a lucky person or what?
Most of my family has contracted Covid, none have
died. Recently my Atlanta area sister's family has
about a dozen cases after one of their kids was
baptized with family present. The wife and I have done
4 shots each, no ill effects, and we are in our 70s. We >>>>>>>>>> have not worn a mask in over a year or restricted
activities outside the home. I even taught a high
school class!
No luck at all. I am in my late 40s, not a fat slob, go
to the gym 3-4 times a week, play golf 2 times a week,
BP normal, take VIT D, C and other supplements. Take no
meds, not even a Tylenol, better to keep as much of this
crap out of your system. I was raised very poor, no dad,
mother struggled, and got very very shots. I have never
had the flu shot, never got the flu. I am healthy, why
take a healthy body and put poison in it. I trust my
immune system, not going to do anything to fuck it up.
For someone who comes across relatively intelligent,And you know they're the liars, because....
interesting that you took 4 shots, I wish you well, but
who knows what chaos exists in your immune system. The
next pandemic may destroy you, I surely hope not. THese
are liars,. people that lie at every turn, you trusted
liars. Liars who could care less about public health,
that is the least of their agenda.
Goodness, you are dense. But what should we expect from
someone that films himself counting money and then posts it
for others to see.
Vaccines stimulate an immune response, but there are
unintended consequences from that immune response. When you
get a Covid infection, the spike protein is found in the
respiratory tract. When you get the poison jab, spike
proteins are found in organ systems that would not be found
by normal infection. This has been verified by post mortem
autopsies. This causes damage to organs and untoward
inflammatory responses. Vaccines contain additives, that are
poison and cause untoward responses. Vaccines can cause blood >>>>>>> clots, strokes, myocarditis, in addtion to an immune
response.
major damage in the lungs...
...that that is the only place in the body that it exists.
How cute!
Canada and the US: two very similar societies.
You dismiss all evidence that these jabs cause injury and
death.. VAERS is way undereported. Even if a tenth of the
reports are correct, that the jab caused injury or death,
that would normally be unacceptible. But my twit friend, this >>>>>>> is not about public health.
Only, in Canada only 1,091 people per million died from
COVID-19...
...while in the US, that number was 3,112; nearly three times
as many, and the most among any western democracy.
Do you really want to look at the correlation between which
party controls a US state and the number of deaths per
million?
I really don't think so.
I have looked at it. In the U.S, corrected for total vaccination
doses/100,000, their is no statistically significant correlation
between state majority political party and Covid deaths/100,000.
Vaccinations are highly significant with the expected negative
sign. Canada. BC in particular, has a lower death incidence
because you had more stringent countermeasures, likely much
better compliance with same, and a much, much, higher vaccination >>>>> rate.
it?
But let's "look at" how well you've "looked at it", shall we?
The top 10 US states for COVID deaths per million are:
1 Mississippi (Rep. governor, Rep. legislature) 2 Arizona (Rep.
governor, Rep. legislature) 3 Alabama (Rep. governor, Rep.
legislature) 4 West Virginia (Rep. governor, Rep. legislature) 5
Tennessee (Rep. governor, Rep. legislature) 6 Arkansas (Rep.
governor, Rep. legislature) 7 New Jersey (Dem. governor, Dem.
legislature) 8 New Mexico (Dem. governor, Dem. legislature) 9
Louisiana (Dem. governor, Rep. legislature) 10 Michigan (Dem.
governor, Rep. legislature)
Now: Which party dominates?
Giving credence to anything Irving/Felicity/<half a dozen other
So this begs the question, is the political party the cause or
the effect of prevailing societal beliefs and attitudes? Likely
some of both.
Now here in the U.S. we have reached a point where the
combination of extensive exposure and vaccines are having the
very predictable effect of creating immune competency. That's no
different from past incidents like this. As Irving points out the >>>>> question remains as to whether vaccination will prove to be as
effective as natural immunity acquired from unprotected
exposure.
nyms>?
How does that illuminate the question?
You wanted a cite. Here is one for Israel:
https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/article-710525 There is >>>>> a problem there, but what is it? Other countries with high
vaccination rates are not seeing similar at this time.
First, your last point: How does that illuminate the question? The
point that high vaccination rates are causing breakthrough cases is
not consistent. Irving is wrong, yet again. I helped make your point. >>> Are you so blind that you can't see beyond your hatred?
The rest:
You simpleton! I absolutely knew you would do exactly what you did
and just show raw data on political party. You missed the point
entirely. There are other factors at play.
Does the majority political party determine the behavior of the
state's population OR does the population determine the majority
political party? Second point: There are other factors at play, the
most important of which is vaccination. Does majority political party >>> determine vaccination acceptance or is that determined by population
beliefs?
Did I say that there was a causation relationship between political
party and death rates?
No.
Only the governor, huh?
I pasted in a regression equation below. It's going to be hard to
read, so here is a link to a JPG image:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dQB6VJhXtDE86HsIIo5jNpYtuzMKaNLX/view?usp=sharing
When corrected for vaccination rate, population 75 and over and
population density the fact that there is a Democratic governor has
no statistically significant effect (t = 1.08, F = 0.2868) on Covid
death rate. To the tiny effect it does have the effect is vanishingly >>> positive, not negative. Vaccination had a 7.99 t score an F of less
than 0.0001. Age and population density demographics also play a
role, and are statistically significant, but are not affected by
population behavior over a short period of time.
Interesting sudden restriction on the question.
I never said majority political party was the cause, Liarboy.
If you can't read a regression equation then go figure it out before
going off on me. Be sure to the read the last paragraph too!
Equation:
N = 50 Mean of Y = 25390.5 Equation: COVID-19 Deaths per 1,000,000 =
5.367e+04 - 2.917e+04 VaccinesAdministered as % of Pop. + 2.24e+05
Pct. Population 75 and Over + 16.28 Population/Sq Mile + 1609
Democratic Governor? R² 0.624 R² adjusted 0.590 RMSE 4752.77
Parameter Estimate 95% CI SE t p-value Constant 53669 41397 to
65941 6092.9 8.81 <0.0001 VaccinesAdministered as % of Pop. -29165
-36515 to -21816 3648.8 -7.99 <0.0001 Pct. Population 75 and Over
224009 80361 to 367658 71321 3.14 0.0030 Population/Sq Mile 16.28
10.19 to 22.37 3.0256 5.38 <0.0001 Democratic Governor? 1609 -1397 to >>> 4615 1492.6 1.08 0.2868
Now, go get your own data, do the work, and show otherwise. But
before you do that know that this equation actually strongly supports >>> your underlying case in this thread.
Points: The "Red" state populations tend to elect Republicans and
have also tended to be less accepting of Covid vaccination. Majority
political party is the effect, not the cause! The underlying cause
here is people's behavior, not the governor or legislature. If you
want to "fix" this you need to "fix" the people who voted for the
majority political party! People like Irving are the cause.
Learn to read.
Alan, what a short memory you have. From you just above:
The top 10 US states for COVID deaths per million are:
1 Mississippi (Rep. governor, Rep. legislature)
2 Arizona (Rep. governor, Rep. legislature)
3 Alabama (Rep. governor, Rep. legislature)
4 West Virginia (Rep. governor, Rep. legislature)
5 Tennessee (Rep. governor, Rep. legislature)
6 Arkansas (Rep. governor, Rep. legislature)
7 New Jersey (Dem. governor, Dem. legislature)
8 New Mexico (Dem. governor, Dem. legislature)
9 Louisiana (Dem. governor, Rep. legislature)
10 Michigan (Dem. governor, Rep. legislature)
Now: Which party dominates?
You with 8 of the 10 having a Republican legislature you are implying that the Republican party caused higher death rates.Nope. You are INFERRING that.
I was explicitly noting CORRELATION, a made no statement—express or implied—about causation.
On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 5:48:50 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:
Tom Elam wrote:
On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 10:34:13 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:If you think that then it just shows how confused you are about
Tom Elam wrote:
Does the majority political party determine the behavior ofIt is such limited assertions that totally undermine your
the state's population OR does the population determine the
majority political party?
whole position and likely the assumption you have made in your
general hypothesis.
Who is to say these are mutually exclusive.
In 2016 many voters literally picked a side/party/tribe and
let that determine their position on many factors and likewise
state precautions or lack thereof.
You think it an accident that most anti-vaxxers were/are
Trumpers and most pro-vaccination were independent/democrat?
You just made my point.
what you are trying to claim; I am unsurprised as it is rather
contrived.
You claim republican anti-vaxxers thinking is independent of the
Republican leadership while clearly they were heavily influenced
by Trump and his rhetoric. Rep governors pandering to Trump and
his followers did a worse job of controlling infection.
Wrong. The voters elected the governments in those states because
they don't like the goverment telling them what to do. Most were in
office before the pandemic. They just lived up to the promises they
made to get elected.
On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 5:48:50 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:
Tom Elam wrote:
On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 10:34:13 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:
Tom Elam wrote:
Does the majority political party determine the behavior ofIt is such limited assertions that totally undermine your whole position and likely the assumption you have made in your
the state's population OR does the population determine the
majority political party?
general hypothesis.
Who is to say these are mutually exclusive.
In 2016 many voters literally picked a side/party/tribe and let
that determine their position on many factors and likewise
state precautions or lack thereof.
You think it an accident that most anti-vaxxers were/are
Trumpers and most pro-vaccination were independent/democrat?
You just made my point.If you think that then it just shows how confused you are about
what you are trying to claim; I am unsurprised as it is rather
contrived.
You claim republican anti-vaxxers thinking is independent of the
Republican leadership while clearly they were heavily influenced by
Trump and his rhetoric. Rep governors pandering to Trump and his
followers did a worse job of controlling infection.
Wrong. The voters elected the governments in those states because
they don't like the goverment telling them what to do. Most were in
office before the pandemic. They just lived up to the promises they
made to get elected.
On 2022-07-06 12:55, Tom Elam wrote:
On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 5:48:50 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:
Tom Elam wrote:
On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 10:34:13 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:If you think that then it just shows how confused you are about
Tom Elam wrote:
Does the majority political party determine the behavior ofIt is such limited assertions that totally undermine your
the state's population OR does the population determine the
majority political party?
whole position and likely the assumption you have made in your
general hypothesis.
Who is to say these are mutually exclusive.
In 2016 many voters literally picked a side/party/tribe and
let that determine their position on many factors and likewise
state precautions or lack thereof.
You think it an accident that most anti-vaxxers were/are
Trumpers and most pro-vaccination were independent/democrat?
You just made my point.
what you are trying to claim; I am unsurprised as it is rather
contrived.
You claim republican anti-vaxxers thinking is independent of the
Republican leadership while clearly they were heavily influenced
by Trump and his rhetoric. Rep governors pandering to Trump and
his followers did a worse job of controlling infection.
Wrong. The voters elected the governments in those states becauseWhich is responsible for the correlation, yes.
they don't like the goverment telling them what to do. Most were in
office before the pandemic. They just lived up to the promises they
made to get elected.
On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 4:49:32 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-07-06 12:55, Tom Elam wrote:
On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 5:48:50 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:Which is responsible for the correlation, yes.
Tom Elam wrote:
On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 10:34:13 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:If you think that then it just shows how confused you are
Tom Elam wrote:
Does the majority political party determine the behaviorIt is such limited assertions that totally undermine your
of the state's population OR does the population
determine the majority political party?
whole position and likely the assumption you have made in
your general hypothesis.
Who is to say these are mutually exclusive.
In 2016 many voters literally picked a side/party/tribe
and let that determine their position on many factors and
likewise state precautions or lack thereof.
You think it an accident that most anti-vaxxers were/are
Trumpers and most pro-vaccination were
independent/democrat?
You just made my point.
about what you are trying to claim; I am unsurprised as it is
rather contrived.
You claim republican anti-vaxxers thinking is independent of
the Republican leadership while clearly they were heavily
influenced by Trump and his rhetoric. Rep governors pandering
to Trump and his followers did a worse job of controlling
infection.
Wrong. The voters elected the governments in those states
because they don't like the goverment telling them what to do.
Most were in office before the pandemic. They just lived up to
the promises they made to get elected.
Every day more and more stories about injuries and death related to
the vax.
Of course in your fantasy world, they are all lies, all
conspiracy theories. Good for you, live in your dream world. New
boosters coming soon, be sure to get your dose. Get those n-95 masks
before supplies run thin. Not me. I will piss on a mask before I
ever wear one. And when bad things happen to you, just remember, it
is all coincidence. If the govt and Pfizer and Moderna and Hollywood
says it is safe, then it MUST be safe, got it!
On 2022-07-08 13:56, Irving S wrote:
On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 4:49:32 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-07-06 12:55, Tom Elam wrote:
On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 5:48:50 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:Which is responsible for the correlation, yes.
Tom Elam wrote:
On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 10:34:13 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:If you think that then it just shows how confused you are
Tom Elam wrote:
Does the majority political party determine the behaviorIt is such limited assertions that totally undermine your
of the state's population OR does the population
determine the majority political party?
whole position and likely the assumption you have made in
your general hypothesis.
Who is to say these are mutually exclusive.
In 2016 many voters literally picked a side/party/tribe
and let that determine their position on many factors and
likewise state precautions or lack thereof.
You think it an accident that most anti-vaxxers were/are
Trumpers and most pro-vaccination were
independent/democrat?
You just made my point.
about what you are trying to claim; I am unsurprised as it is
rather contrived.
You claim republican anti-vaxxers thinking is independent of
the Republican leadership while clearly they were heavily
influenced by Trump and his rhetoric. Rep governors pandering
to Trump and his followers did a worse job of controlling
infection.
Wrong. The voters elected the governments in those states
because they don't like the goverment telling them what to do.
Most were in office before the pandemic. They just lived up to
the promises they made to get elected.
Every day more and more stories about injuries and death related toWeird you don't post any then...
the vax.
Of course in your fantasy world, they are all lies, allFar fewer dead people where vaccination rates were highest.
conspiracy theories. Good for you, live in your dream world. New
boosters coming soon, be sure to get your dose. Get those n-95 masks before supplies run thin. Not me. I will piss on a mask before I
ever wear one. And when bad things happen to you, just remember, it
is all coincidence. If the govt and Pfizer and Moderna and Hollywood
says it is safe, then it MUST be safe, got it!
'5 CONCLUSIONS
Based on the results of our temporal and spatial analysis of the
correlation between the COVID-19 vaccine coverage rates and outcomes of
the COVID-19 epidemic, we provide additional evidence that a mass
COVID-19 vaccination policy would protect the health and wellbeing of
all, especially when the rate of COVID-19 vaccine coverage passes 60%
and the benefits to preventing severe disease and preventing
transmission of infection are likely to become obvious.'
<https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jmv.27609>
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