...which begs the question WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? I have asked this question before of you libtards, and NEVER received a coherent reply, so I will try again: WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? Please be specific, as laws must be.

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TomS wrote:

...which begs the question WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? I have asked
this question before of you libtards, and NEVER received a coherent
reply, so I will try again: WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? Please be
specific, as laws must be.

Perhaps you should learn to ask questions like a civilised adult and
not an demented arsehole.

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TomS wrote:

...which begs the question WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? I have asked
this question before of you libtards, and NEVER received a coherent
reply, so I will try again: WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? Please be
specific, as laws must be.

A question for you Betty.

If the 1994 ban had been revised and renewed how many of the legal guns
used in mass shooting would have been banned and how many people were
they used to kill/injure?

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On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 5:58:48 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:

TomS wrote:

...which begs the question WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? I have asked
this question before of you libtards, and NEVER received a coherent
reply, so I will try again: WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? Please be
specific, as laws must be.

Perhaps you should learn to ask questions like a civilised adult and
not an demented arsehole.

LOL!

Anyone that reads your obscene vulgar rants would say YOU are a demented arsehole.

Must really suck to be a dog walker, and no dogs to walk. Dogs are perceptive, they see for you the crud you are. Don't give up hope loser, somewhere out there, there is a dog waiting to be walked. It might take 5 years, but you will find that dog.
That dog will see you for what you are, and piss on your leg. A waste of piss for sure.

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On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 3:38:38 PM UTC-7, Irving S wrote:

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 5:58:48 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:

TomS wrote:

...which begs the question WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? I have asked
this question before of you libtards, and NEVER received a coherent reply, so I will try again: WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? Please be specific, as laws must be.

Perhaps you should learn to ask questions like a civilised adult and
not an demented arsehole.

LOL!

Anyone that reads your obscene vulgar rants would say YOU are a demented arsehole.

Must really suck to be a dog walker, and no dogs to walk. Dogs are perceptive, they see for you the crud you are. Don't give up hope loser, somewhere out there, there is a dog waiting to be walked. It might take 5 years, but you will find that dog.

That dog will see you for what you are, and piss on your leg. A waste of piss for sure.

As before, the libtards here can't answer a SIMPLE QUESTION! Well, if you are going to write a law (not the libtards here on RSG who can barely write their name, but so-called legislators) you will HAVE to define what an "assault rifle" is. And the
definition in the old law was so hopelessly meaningless that it had ZERO impact on rifle deaths (which is an almost zero proportion of firearm homicides anyway).

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On 2022-06-04 8:23 p.m., TomS wrote:

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 3:38:38 PM UTC-7, Irving S wrote:

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 5:58:48 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:

TomS wrote:

...which begs the question WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? I have asked
this question before of you libtards, and NEVER received a coherent
reply, so I will try again: WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? Please be
specific, as laws must be.

Perhaps you should learn to ask questions like a civilised adult and
not an demented arsehole.

LOL!

Anyone that reads your obscene vulgar rants would say YOU are a demented arsehole.

Must really suck to be a dog walker, and no dogs to walk. Dogs are perceptive, they see for you the crud you are. Don't give up hope loser, somewhere out there, there is a dog waiting to be walked. It might take 5 years, but you will find that dog.

That dog will see you for what you are, and piss on your leg. A waste of piss for sure.

As before, the libtards here can't answer a SIMPLE QUESTION! Well, if you are going to write a law (not the libtards here on RSG who can barely write their name, but so-called legislators) you will HAVE to define what an "assault rifle" is. And the

definition in the old law was so hopelessly meaningless that it had ZERO impact on rifle deaths (which is an almost zero proportion of firearm homicides anyway).

Is an AR-15/M-16 an assault rifle? Yes or no?

'An assault rifle is a selective fire rifle that uses an intermediate
cartridge and a detachable magazine.'

Let's see:

"Selective fire"?

Well, I'll guess we'll need to define that for you:

A "selective fire" weapon can fire in both semi-automatic, fully
automatic, and potentially, a burst mode as well.

The M-16 was a selective fire weapon.

"Intermediate cartridge"?

We'll pretend we don't have to define that for you and that you will
just understand that the 5.56mmx45 NATO cartridge is indeed an
intermediate cartridge.

"Detachable magazine"? You bet.

And while in general, rifles don't figure that largely in the ridiculous
number of people who die from firearms in your country, assault rifles
are the overwhelming choice for the mass murders who kill in large numbers.

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TomS wrote:

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 3:38:38 PM UTC-7, Irving S wrote:

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 5:58:48 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:

TomS wrote:

...which begs the question WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? I have
asked this question before of you libtards, and NEVER received
a coherent reply, so I will try again: WHAT IS AN ASSAULT
RIFLE? Please be specific, as laws must be.

Perhaps you should learn to ask questions like a civilised adult
and not an demented arsehole.

LOL!

Anyone that reads your obscene vulgar rants would say YOU are a
demented arsehole.

Must really suck to be a dog walker, and no dogs to walk. Dogs are perceptive, they see for you the crud you are. Don't give up hope
loser, somewhere out there, there is a dog waiting to be walked. It
might take 5 years, but you will find that dog. That dog will see
you for what you are, and piss on your leg. A waste of piss for
sure.

As before, the libtards here can't answer a SIMPLE QUESTION! Well, if
you are going to write a law (not the libtards here on RSG who can
barely write their name, but so-called legislators) you will HAVE to
define what an "assault rifle" is. And the definition in the old law
was so hopelessly meaningless that it had ZERO impact on rifle deaths
(which is an almost zero proportion of firearm homicides anyway).

So it needs more work. It's just a first step toward removing deadly
weapons used by mass murders from your demented hands.

I note you won't answer my question, hypocrite.

If the 1994 ban had been revised and renewed how many of the legal guns
used in mass shooting would have been banned and how many people were
they used to kill/injure?

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On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 2:57:44 AM UTC-7, Bigbird wrote:

TomS wrote:

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 3:38:38 PM UTC-7, Irving S wrote:

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 5:58:48 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:

TomS wrote:

...which begs the question WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? I have
asked this question before of you libtards, and NEVER received
a coherent reply, so I will try again: WHAT IS AN ASSAULT
RIFLE? Please be specific, as laws must be.

Perhaps you should learn to ask questions like a civilised adult
and not an demented arsehole.

LOL!

Anyone that reads your obscene vulgar rants would say YOU are a
demented arsehole.

Must really suck to be a dog walker, and no dogs to walk. Dogs are perceptive, they see for you the crud you are. Don't give up hope
loser, somewhere out there, there is a dog waiting to be walked. It
might take 5 years, but you will find that dog. That dog will see
you for what you are, and piss on your leg. A waste of piss for
sure.

As before, the libtards here can't answer a SIMPLE QUESTION! Well, if
you are going to write a law (not the libtards here on RSG who can
barely write their name, but so-called legislators) you will HAVE to
define what an "assault rifle" is. And the definition in the old law
was so hopelessly meaningless that it had ZERO impact on rifle deaths (which is an almost zero proportion of firearm homicides anyway).

So it needs more work. It's just a first step toward removing deadly
weapons used by mass murders from your demented hands.

I note you won't answer my question, hypocrite.
If the 1994 ban had been revised and renewed how many of the legal guns
used in mass shooting would have been banned and how many people were
they used to kill/injure?

Hey BirdBrain, I have stopped replying to your (and Irving's) inane and insane comments.

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On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 8:34:13 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

On 2022-06-04 8:23 p.m., TomS wrote:

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 3:38:38 PM UTC-7, Irving S wrote:

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 5:58:48 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:

TomS wrote:

...which begs the question WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? I have asked
this question before of you libtards, and NEVER received a coherent >>>> reply, so I will try again: WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? Please be
specific, as laws must be.

Perhaps you should learn to ask questions like a civilised adult and
not an demented arsehole.

LOL!

Anyone that reads your obscene vulgar rants would say YOU are a demented arsehole.

Must really suck to be a dog walker, and no dogs to walk. Dogs are perceptive, they see for you the crud you are. Don't give up hope loser, somewhere out there, there is a dog waiting to be walked. It might take 5 years, but you will find that dog.

That dog will see you for what you are, and piss on your leg. A waste of piss for sure.

As before, the libtards here can't answer a SIMPLE QUESTION! Well, if you are going to write a law (not the libtards here on RSG who can barely write their name, but so-called legislators) you will HAVE to define what an "assault rifle" is. And the

definition in the old law was so hopelessly meaningless that it had ZERO impact on rifle deaths (which is an almost zero proportion of firearm homicides anyway).

Is an AR-15/M-16 an assault rifle? Yes or no?

'An assault rifle is a selective fire rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.'

Let's see:

"Selective fire"?

Well, I'll guess we'll need to define that for you:

A "selective fire" weapon can fire in both semi-automatic, fully
automatic, and potentially, a burst mode as well.

The M-16 was a selective fire weapon.

LOL! And the AR-15 IS NOT!!!!! Having a fully auto mode is what makes an assault rife an assault rifle, and you CAN NOT buy a new fully auto weapon of any sort (and the used ones have a ton of restrictions).

"Intermediate cartridge"?

We'll pretend we don't have to define that for you and that you will
just understand that the 5.56mmx45 NATO cartridge is indeed an
intermediate cartridge.

That applies to virtually all hunting rifles.

"Detachable magazine"? You bet.

And that applies to virtual ALL semi-auto weapons, including handguns. Even the cylinder is detachable on most revolvers.

And while in general, rifles don't figure that largely in the ridiculous number of people who die from firearms in your country, assault rifles
are the overwhelming choice for the mass murders who kill in large numbers.

Mass murders won't even make into the Top 100 causes of death. If you denied them access to what is erroneously called "assault rifles" (not likely as you are talking about mass confiscation of ALL rifles) they would, simply, switch to handguns. And if
you went whole hog and confiscated EVERY firearm (which is blatantly unconstitutional) they would switch to a car, pickup or truck (which has happened).

Typical of libtards, you look at an inanimate object as the problem when it is the person. If you study serial killers they rarely use firearms to kill their victims. What would REALLY help is the STRICT enforcement of EXISTING gun laws, like straw
buyers and people who lie on their gun application form (like Hunter BooBoo). Criminals caught with illegal firearms typically have the gun enhancement charge pled down.


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On 2022-06-05 1:07 p.m., TomS wrote:

On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 8:34:13 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

On 2022-06-04 8:23 p.m., TomS wrote:

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 3:38:38 PM UTC-7, Irving S wrote:

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 5:58:48 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:

TomS wrote:

...which begs the question WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? I have
asked this question before of you libtards, and NEVER
received a coherent reply, so I will try again: WHAT IS AN
ASSAULT RIFLE? Please be specific, as laws must be.

Perhaps you should learn to ask questions like a civilised
adult and not an demented arsehole.

LOL!

Anyone that reads your obscene vulgar rants would say YOU are a
demented arsehole.

Must really suck to be a dog walker, and no dogs to walk. Dogs
are perceptive, they see for you the crud you are. Don't give
up hope loser, somewhere out there, there is a dog waiting to
be walked. It might take 5 years, but you will find that dog.
That dog will see you for what you are, and piss on your leg. A
waste of piss for sure.

As before, the libtards here can't answer a SIMPLE QUESTION!
Well, if you are going to write a law (not the libtards here on
RSG who can barely write their name, but so-called legislators)
you will HAVE to define what an "assault rifle" is. And the
definition in the old law was so hopelessly meaningless that it
had ZERO impact on rifle deaths (which is an almost zero
proportion of firearm homicides anyway).

Is an AR-15/M-16 an assault rifle? Yes or no?

'An assault rifle is a selective fire rifle that uses an
intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.'

Let's see:

"Selective fire"?

Well, I'll guess we'll need to define that for you:

A "selective fire" weapon can fire in both semi-automatic, fully
automatic, and potentially, a burst mode as well.

The M-16 was a selective fire weapon.

LOL! And the AR-15 IS NOT!!!!! Having a fully auto mode is what makes
an assault rife an assault rifle, and you CAN NOT buy a new fully
auto weapon of any sort (and the used ones have a ton of
restrictions).

It's just too easy to convert it to automatic fire.

"Intermediate cartridge"?

We'll pretend we don't have to define that for you and that you
will just understand that the 5.56mmx45 NATO cartridge is indeed
an intermediate cartridge.

That applies to virtually all hunting rifles.

Actually no. Most hunting rifles are quite a bit larger caliber.

"Detachable magazine"? You bet.

And that applies to virtual ALL semi-auto weapons, including
handguns. Even the cylinder is detachable on most revolvers.

You understand what "and" means in a definition, right?

And while in general, rifles don't figure that largely in the
ridiculous number of people who die from firearms in your country,
assault rifles are the overwhelming choice for the mass murders who
kill in large numbers.

Mass murders won't even make into the Top 100 causes of death. If you
denied them access to what is erroneously called "assault rifles"
(not likely as you are talking about mass confiscation of ALL rifles)
they would, simply, switch to handguns. And if you went whole hog and confiscated EVERY firearm (which is blatantly unconstitutional) they
would switch to a car, pickup or truck (which has happened).

Typical of libtards, you look at an inanimate object as the problem
when it is the person. If you study serial killers they rarely use
firearms to kill their victims. What would REALLY help is the STRICT enforcement of EXISTING gun laws, like straw buyers and people who
lie on their gun application form (like Hunter BooBoo). Criminals
caught with illegal firearms typically have the gun enhancement
charge pled down.

So if the problem is just "the person"...

...why is the US the only place where this is an epidemic, Sunshine?

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On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 4:07:21 PM UTC-4, TomS wrote:

On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 8:34:13 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

On 2022-06-04 8:23 p.m., TomS wrote:

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 3:38:38 PM UTC-7, Irving S wrote:

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 5:58:48 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:

TomS wrote:

...which begs the question WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? I have asked >>>> this question before of you libtards, and NEVER received a coherent >>>> reply, so I will try again: WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? Please be
specific, as laws must be.

Perhaps you should learn to ask questions like a civilised adult and >>> not an demented arsehole.

LOL!

Anyone that reads your obscene vulgar rants would say YOU are a demented arsehole.

Must really suck to be a dog walker, and no dogs to walk. Dogs are perceptive, they see for you the crud you are. Don't give up hope loser, somewhere out there, there is a dog waiting to be walked. It might take 5 years, but you will find that dog.

That dog will see you for what you are, and piss on your leg. A waste of piss for sure.

As before, the libtards here can't answer a SIMPLE QUESTION! Well, if you are going to write a law (not the libtards here on RSG who can barely write their name, but so-called legislators) you will HAVE to define what an "assault rifle" is. And the

definition in the old law was so hopelessly meaningless that it had ZERO impact on rifle deaths (which is an almost zero proportion of firearm homicides anyway).

Is an AR-15/M-16 an assault rifle? Yes or no?

'An assault rifle is a selective fire rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.'

Let's see:

"Selective fire"?

Well, I'll guess we'll need to define that for you:

A "selective fire" weapon can fire in both semi-automatic, fully automatic, and potentially, a burst mode as well.

The M-16 was a selective fire weapon.

LOL! And the AR-15 IS NOT!!!!! Having a fully auto mode is
what makes an assault rife an assault rifle, …

You sure about that sugarplum?

…and you CAN NOT buy a new fully auto weapon of any
sort (and the used ones have a ton of restrictions).

Oh, so there is legal precedent for banning certain kinds of weapons?
Good to know!

"Intermediate cartridge"?

We'll pretend we don't have to define that for you and that you will
just understand that the 5.56mmx45 NATO cartridge is indeed an intermediate cartridge.

That applies to virtually all hunting rifles.

LOL…

"Detachable magazine"? You bet.

And that applies to virtual ALL semi-auto weapons, including
handguns. Even the cylinder is detachable on most revolvers.

Well, with enough tools…. /s

And while in general, rifles don't figure that largely in the ridiculous number of people who die from firearms in your country, assault rifles
are the overwhelming choice for the mass murders who kill in large numbers.

Mass murders won't even make into the Top 100 causes of death.

Nor do nuclear weapons, yet the world tends to get jumpy about who has them…

If you denied them access to what is erroneously called "assault rifles" (not likely as you are talking about mass confiscation of ALL rifles)
they would, simply, switch to handguns.

To what degree would that cut down on the number of victims in mass shootings? After all, not that many pistols with 30 rd mags…


-hh

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On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 2:30:52 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

On 2022-06-05 1:07 p.m., TomS wrote:

On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 8:34:13 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

On 2022-06-04 8:23 p.m., TomS wrote:

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 3:38:38 PM UTC-7, Irving S wrote:

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 5:58:48 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:

TomS wrote:

...which begs the question WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? I have
asked this question before of you libtards, and NEVER
received a coherent reply, so I will try again: WHAT IS AN
ASSAULT RIFLE? Please be specific, as laws must be.

Perhaps you should learn to ask questions like a civilised
adult and not an demented arsehole.

LOL!

Anyone that reads your obscene vulgar rants would say YOU are a
demented arsehole.

Must really suck to be a dog walker, and no dogs to walk. Dogs
are perceptive, they see for you the crud you are. Don't give
up hope loser, somewhere out there, there is a dog waiting to
be walked. It might take 5 years, but you will find that dog.
That dog will see you for what you are, and piss on your leg. A
waste of piss for sure.

As before, the libtards here can't answer a SIMPLE QUESTION!
Well, if you are going to write a law (not the libtards here on
RSG who can barely write their name, but so-called legislators)
you will HAVE to define what an "assault rifle" is. And the
definition in the old law was so hopelessly meaningless that it
had ZERO impact on rifle deaths (which is an almost zero
proportion of firearm homicides anyway).

Is an AR-15/M-16 an assault rifle? Yes or no?

'An assault rifle is a selective fire rifle that uses an
intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.'

Let's see:

"Selective fire"?

Well, I'll guess we'll need to define that for you:

A "selective fire" weapon can fire in both semi-automatic, fully
automatic, and potentially, a burst mode as well.

The M-16 was a selective fire weapon.

LOL! And the AR-15 IS NOT!!!!! Having a fully auto mode is what makes
an assault rife an assault rifle, and you CAN NOT buy a new fully
auto weapon of any sort (and the used ones have a ton of
restrictions).

It's just too easy to convert it to automatic fire.

If it's so damn easy go do it and tell us how you did it.

"Intermediate cartridge"?

We'll pretend we don't have to define that for you and that you
will just understand that the 5.56mmx45 NATO cartridge is indeed
an intermediate cartridge.

That applies to virtually all hunting rifles.

Actually no. Most hunting rifles are quite a bit larger caliber.

"Detachable magazine"? You bet.

And that applies to virtual ALL semi-auto weapons, including
handguns. Even the cylinder is detachable on most revolvers.

You understand what "and" means in a definition, right?

And while in general, rifles don't figure that largely in the
ridiculous number of people who die from firearms in your country,
assault rifles are the overwhelming choice for the mass murders who
kill in large numbers.

Mass murders won't even make into the Top 100 causes of death. If you denied them access to what is erroneously called "assault rifles"
(not likely as you are talking about mass confiscation of ALL rifles)
they would, simply, switch to handguns. And if you went whole hog and confiscated EVERY firearm (which is blatantly unconstitutional) they
would switch to a car, pickup or truck (which has happened).

Typical of libtards, you look at an inanimate object as the problem
when it is the person. If you study serial killers they rarely use
firearms to kill their victims. What would REALLY help is the STRICT enforcement of EXISTING gun laws, like straw buyers and people who
lie on their gun application form (like Hunter BooBoo). Criminals
caught with illegal firearms typically have the gun enhancement
charge pled down.

So if the problem is just "the person"...

You sound like these idiot TV anchors who say "A gun killed a person..."

...why is the US the only place where this is an epidemic, Sunshine?

Come again: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle-ramming_attack

You libtards just can't handle a rational discussion, can you?

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On 2022-06-05 7:20 p.m., TomS wrote:

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 2:30:52 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

On 2022-06-05 1:07 p.m., TomS wrote:

On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 8:34:13 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

On 2022-06-04 8:23 p.m., TomS wrote:

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 3:38:38 PM UTC-7, Irving S wrote:

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 5:58:48 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:

TomS wrote:

...which begs the question WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? I have
asked this question before of you libtards, and NEVER
received a coherent reply, so I will try again: WHAT IS AN
ASSAULT RIFLE? Please be specific, as laws must be.

Perhaps you should learn to ask questions like a civilised
adult and not an demented arsehole.

LOL!

Anyone that reads your obscene vulgar rants would say YOU are a
demented arsehole.

Must really suck to be a dog walker, and no dogs to walk. Dogs
are perceptive, they see for you the crud you are. Don't give
up hope loser, somewhere out there, there is a dog waiting to
be walked. It might take 5 years, but you will find that dog.
That dog will see you for what you are, and piss on your leg. A
waste of piss for sure.

As before, the libtards here can't answer a SIMPLE QUESTION!
Well, if you are going to write a law (not the libtards here on
RSG who can barely write their name, but so-called legislators)
you will HAVE to define what an "assault rifle" is. And the
definition in the old law was so hopelessly meaningless that it
had ZERO impact on rifle deaths (which is an almost zero
proportion of firearm homicides anyway).

Is an AR-15/M-16 an assault rifle? Yes or no?

'An assault rifle is a selective fire rifle that uses an
intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.'

Let's see:

"Selective fire"?

Well, I'll guess we'll need to define that for you:

A "selective fire" weapon can fire in both semi-automatic, fully
automatic, and potentially, a burst mode as well.

The M-16 was a selective fire weapon.

LOL! And the AR-15 IS NOT!!!!! Having a fully auto mode is what makes
an assault rife an assault rifle, and you CAN NOT buy a new fully
auto weapon of any sort (and the used ones have a ton of
restrictions).

It's just too easy to convert it to automatic fire.

If it's so damn easy go do it and tell us how you did it.

I didn't do it.

But I know this will come as a shock to you, but some of us know things
without actually having done this ourselves.

"Intermediate cartridge"?

We'll pretend we don't have to define that for you and that you
will just understand that the 5.56mmx45 NATO cartridge is indeed
an intermediate cartridge.

That applies to virtually all hunting rifles.

Actually no. Most hunting rifles are quite a bit larger caliber.

Run away, Sunshine!

"Detachable magazine"? You bet.

And that applies to virtual ALL semi-auto weapons, including
handguns. Even the cylinder is detachable on most revolvers.

You understand what "and" means in a definition, right?

And while in general, rifles don't figure that largely in the
ridiculous number of people who die from firearms in your country,
assault rifles are the overwhelming choice for the mass murders who
kill in large numbers.

Mass murders won't even make into the Top 100 causes of death. If you
denied them access to what is erroneously called "assault rifles"
(not likely as you are talking about mass confiscation of ALL rifles)
they would, simply, switch to handguns. And if you went whole hog and
confiscated EVERY firearm (which is blatantly unconstitutional) they
would switch to a car, pickup or truck (which has happened).

Typical of libtards, you look at an inanimate object as the problem
when it is the person. If you study serial killers they rarely use
firearms to kill their victims. What would REALLY help is the STRICT
enforcement of EXISTING gun laws, like straw buyers and people who
lie on their gun application form (like Hunter BooBoo). Criminals
caught with illegal firearms typically have the gun enhancement
charge pled down.

So if the problem is just "the person"...

You sound like these idiot TV anchors who say "A gun killed a person..."

...why is the US the only place where this is an epidemic, Sunshine?

Come again: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle-ramming_attack

You libtards just can't handle a rational discussion, can you?

Rational discussion starts with the fact that there are more mass
murders with firearms in the US every year than pretty much the rest of
the world combined.

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On 2022-06-05 7:37 p.m., TomS wrote:

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 4:28:19 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 4:07:21 PM UTC-4, TomS wrote:

On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 8:34:13 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

On 2022-06-04 8:23 p.m., TomS wrote:

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 3:38:38 PM UTC-7, Irving S wrote:

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 5:58:48 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:

TomS wrote:

...which begs the question WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? I have asked >>>>>>>> this question before of you libtards, and NEVER received a coherent >>>>>>>> reply, so I will try again: WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? Please be >>>>>>>> specific, as laws must be.

Perhaps you should learn to ask questions like a civilised adult and >>>>>>> not an demented arsehole.

LOL!

Anyone that reads your obscene vulgar rants would say YOU are a demented arsehole.

Must really suck to be a dog walker, and no dogs to walk. Dogs are perceptive, they see for you the crud you are. Don't give up hope loser, somewhere out there, there is a dog waiting to be walked. It might take 5 years, but you will find that dog.

That dog will see you for what you are, and piss on your leg. A waste of piss for sure.

As before, the libtards here can't answer a SIMPLE QUESTION! Well, if you are going to write a law (not the libtards here on RSG who can barely write their name, but so-called legislators) you will HAVE to define what an "assault rifle" is. And the

definition in the old law was so hopelessly meaningless that it had ZERO impact on rifle deaths (which is an almost zero proportion of firearm homicides anyway).

Is an AR-15/M-16 an assault rifle? Yes or no?

'An assault rifle is a selective fire rifle that uses an intermediate
cartridge and a detachable magazine.'

Let's see:

"Selective fire"?

Well, I'll guess we'll need to define that for you:

A "selective fire" weapon can fire in both semi-automatic, fully
automatic, and potentially, a burst mode as well.

The M-16 was a selective fire weapon.

LOL! And the AR-15 IS NOT!!!!! Having a fully auto mode is
what makes an assault rife an assault rifle, …

You sure about that sugarplum?

Wanna weigh in on this, Lyin' Asshole?

I'm sure he's more qualified than you are.

The words "Thank you for your service" spring to mind.

…and you CAN NOT buy a new fully auto weapon of any
sort (and the used ones have a ton of restrictions).

Oh, so there is legal precedent for banning certain kinds of weapons?
Good to know!

Hey Lyin' Asshole, there ALWAYS have been!

Great. So you have no problem with the general concept.

"Intermediate cartridge"?

We'll pretend we don't have to define that for you and that you will
just understand that the 5.56mmx45 NATO cartridge is indeed an
intermediate cartridge.

That applies to virtually all hunting rifles.

LOL…

Stupid comment noted.

He's laughing because you are hilariously wrong.

"Detachable magazine"? You bet.

And that applies to virtual ALL semi-auto weapons, including
handguns. Even the cylinder is detachable on most revolvers.

Well, with enough tools…. /s

Should have said cartridge ejectable. This guy can reload his revolver in about a second:
https://www.google.com/search?q=fast+reloading+of+revolvers&rlz=1C1RXQR_enUS934US934&oq=fast+reloading+of+revolvers&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l3.6793j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#kpvalbx=_5GWdYu-jNP3XkPIPvNur-Ac20

Sure... ...6 at a time...

and it takes longer that replacing an empty 30 round magazine on an AR-15.

And while in general, rifles don't figure that largely in the ridiculous >>>> number of people who die from firearms in your country, assault rifles >>>> are the overwhelming choice for the mass murders who kill in large numbers.

Mass murders won't even make into the Top 100 causes of death.

Nor do nuclear weapons, yet the world tends to get jumpy about who has them…

Stupid comment warning, yet people DO have an irrational fear of being killed by nukes; witness all of the stupid "Trump has his finger on the nuclear button" comments. Note SO DOES BIDEN!

Way to completely miss the point for the 14,328th time!

If you denied them access to what is erroneously called "assault rifles" >>> (not likely as you are talking about mass confiscation of ALL rifles)
they would, simply, switch to handguns.

To what degree would that cut down on the number of victims in mass shootings?
After all, not that many pistols with 30 rd mags…

They are available, but you can change them so quickly it will NOT make a difference.

Really? Care to demonstrate how long it takes someone with a fully
automatic assault rifle to fire 30 rounds vs how long it takes with a 6
shot revolver?

:-)

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On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 4:28:19 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 4:07:21 PM UTC-4, TomS wrote:

On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 8:34:13 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

On 2022-06-04 8:23 p.m., TomS wrote:

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 3:38:38 PM UTC-7, Irving S wrote:

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 5:58:48 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:

TomS wrote:

...which begs the question WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? I have asked >>>> this question before of you libtards, and NEVER received a coherent >>>> reply, so I will try again: WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? Please be >>>> specific, as laws must be.

Perhaps you should learn to ask questions like a civilised adult and >>> not an demented arsehole.

LOL!

Anyone that reads your obscene vulgar rants would say YOU are a demented arsehole.

Must really suck to be a dog walker, and no dogs to walk. Dogs are perceptive, they see for you the crud you are. Don't give up hope loser, somewhere out there, there is a dog waiting to be walked. It might take 5 years, but you will find that

dog. That dog will see you for what you are, and piss on your leg. A waste of piss for sure.

As before, the libtards here can't answer a SIMPLE QUESTION! Well, if you are going to write a law (not the libtards here on RSG who can barely write their name, but so-called legislators) you will HAVE to define what an "assault rifle" is. And

the definition in the old law was so hopelessly meaningless that it had ZERO impact on rifle deaths (which is an almost zero proportion of firearm homicides anyway).

Is an AR-15/M-16 an assault rifle? Yes or no?

'An assault rifle is a selective fire rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.'

Let's see:

"Selective fire"?

Well, I'll guess we'll need to define that for you:

A "selective fire" weapon can fire in both semi-automatic, fully automatic, and potentially, a burst mode as well.

The M-16 was a selective fire weapon.

LOL! And the AR-15 IS NOT!!!!! Having a fully auto mode is
what makes an assault rife an assault rifle, …

You sure about that sugarplum?

Wanna weigh in on this, Lyin' Asshole?

…and you CAN NOT buy a new fully auto weapon of any
sort (and the used ones have a ton of restrictions).

Oh, so there is legal precedent for banning certain kinds of weapons?
Good to know!

Hey Lyin' Asshole, there ALWAYS have been!

"Intermediate cartridge"?

We'll pretend we don't have to define that for you and that you will just understand that the 5.56mmx45 NATO cartridge is indeed an intermediate cartridge.

That applies to virtually all hunting rifles.

LOL…

Stupid comment noted.

"Detachable magazine"? You bet.

And that applies to virtual ALL semi-auto weapons, including
handguns. Even the cylinder is detachable on most revolvers.

Well, with enough tools…. /s

Should have said cartridge ejectable. This guy can reload his revolver in about a second:
https://www.google.com/search?q=fast+reloading+of+revolvers&rlz=1C1RXQR_enUS934US934&oq=fast+reloading+of+revolvers&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l3.6793j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#kpvalbx=_5GWdYu-jNP3XkPIPvNur-Ac20

And while in general, rifles don't figure that largely in the ridiculous number of people who die from firearms in your country, assault rifles are the overwhelming choice for the mass murders who kill in large numbers.

Mass murders won't even make into the Top 100 causes of death.

Nor do nuclear weapons, yet the world tends to get jumpy about who has them…

Stupid comment warning, yet people DO have an irrational fear of being killed by nukes; witness all of the stupid "Trump has his finger on the nuclear button" comments. Note SO DOES BIDEN!

If you denied them access to what is erroneously called "assault rifles" (not likely as you are talking about mass confiscation of ALL rifles)
they would, simply, switch to handguns.

To what degree would that cut down on the number of victims in mass shootings?
After all, not that many pistols with 30 rd mags…

They are available, but you can change them so quickly it will NOT make a difference.

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On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 10:53:41 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:

On 2022-06-05 7:37 p.m., TomS wrote:

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 4:28:19 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 4:07:21 PM UTC-4, TomS wrote:

On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 8:34:13 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

On 2022-06-04 8:23 p.m., TomS wrote:

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 3:38:38 PM UTC-7, Irving S wrote:

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 5:58:48 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:

TomS wrote:

...which begs the question WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? I have asked >>>>>>>> this question before of you libtards, and NEVER received a coherent >>>>>>>> reply, so I will try again: WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? Please be >>>>>>>> specific, as laws must be.

Perhaps you should learn to ask questions like a civilised adult and >>>>>>> not an demented arsehole.

LOL!

Anyone that reads your obscene vulgar rants would say YOU are a demented arsehole.

As before, the libtards here can't answer a SIMPLE QUESTION! Well, if you are going
to write a law (not the libtards here on RSG who can barely write their name, but so-called
legislators) you will HAVE to define what an "assault rifle" is. And the definition in the old
law was so hopelessly meaningless that it had ZERO impact on rifle deaths (which is an
almost zero proportion of firearm homicides anyway).

Analysis disagrees with your claim that the assault rifle ban had 'ZERO' impact:

<https://law.stanford.edu/2019/10/15/the-assault-weapon-ban-saved-lives/> <https://theincidentaleconomist.com/wordpress/did-the-assault-weapons-ban-slow-the-acceleration-of-mass-shootings/>

Is an AR-15/M-16 an assault rifle? Yes or no?

'An assault rifle is a selective fire rifle that uses an intermediate >>>> cartridge and a detachable magazine.'

Let's see:

"Selective fire"?

Well, I'll guess we'll need to define that for you:

A "selective fire" weapon can fire in both semi-automatic, fully
automatic, and potentially, a burst mode as well.

The M-16 was a selective fire weapon.

LOL! And the AR-15 IS NOT!!!!! Having a fully auto mode is
what makes an assault rife an assault rifle, …

You sure about that sugarplum?

Wanna weigh in on this, Lyin' Asshole?

I'm sure he's more qualified than you are.

"Armchair experts" like Tommy don't care about such things.

The words "Thank you for your service" spring to mind.

Thanks. Just back from a holiday break, which was long overdue.

…and you CAN NOT buy a new fully auto weapon of any
sort (and the used ones have a ton of restrictions).

Oh, so there is legal precedent for banning certain kinds of weapons?
Good to know!

Hey Lyin' Asshole, there ALWAYS have been!

Great. So you have no problem with the general concept.

Although Tommy's "always" is incorrect. I was mostly thinking of the
National Firearms Act of 1934 which put a $200 tax on machine guns,
short barreled rifles & shotguns, suppressors - - and if said tax had been indexed to inflation, would be $4,000 per transaction today. FWIW, what
is interesting about it is that it also noted that a non-machine gun that may be converted to autofire by "ordinary mechanical skills" is determined to be "readily convertible", and classed as a machine gun: this very well may be
the legal provision that's been needed to put some limitations on the sales
of AR-15 style contenders, as if memory serves, the contemporary challenge
for conversions isn't making them, but having them be reversible & non-detectable.

"Intermediate cartridge"?

We'll pretend we don't have to define that for you and that you will >>>> just understand that the 5.56mmx45 NATO cartridge is indeed an
intermediate cartridge.

That applies to virtually all hunting rifles.

LOL…

Stupid comment noted.

He's laughing because you are hilariously wrong.

I'd love to see Tommy try to rip off a 3rd burst from .300 Win Mag's, which
is one of our older DoD sniper rifle calibers. Bonus for .338 Lapua.

"Detachable magazine"? You bet.

And that applies to virtual ALL semi-auto weapons, including
handguns. Even the cylinder is detachable on most revolvers.

Well, with enough tools…. /s

Should have said cartridge ejectable. This guy can reload his revolver
in about a second: https://www.google.com/search?q=fast+reloading+of+revolvers&rlz=1C1RXQR_enUS934US934&oq=fast+reloading+of+revolvers&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l3.6793j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#kpvalbx=_5GWdYu-jNP3XkPIPvNur-Ac20

Sure... ...6 at a time...

The more important question is how many years he had to train to develop the muscle memory motor skills to do that, and if he can do it under a variety of conditions ... probably not.

and it takes longer that replacing an empty 30 round magazine on an AR-15.

That too...particularly for the motor skills while under stress. There's reasons for
why the military doesn't use revolvers in most applications.

And while in general, rifles don't figure that largely in the ridiculous
number of people who die from firearms in your country, assault rifles >>>> are the overwhelming choice for the mass murders who kill in large numbers.

Mass murders won't even make into the Top 100 causes of death.

Nor do nuclear weapons, yet the world tends to get jumpy about who has them…

Stupid comment warning, yet people DO have an irrational fear of being killed
by nukes; witness all of the stupid "Trump has his finger on the nuclear button"
comments. Note SO DOES BIDEN!

Way to completely miss the point for the 14,328th time!

Its only a matter of time until Tommy chats up the Iran nuke threat. Or North Korea. Or Putin.

If you denied them access to what is erroneously called "assault rifles" >>> (not likely as you are talking about mass confiscation of ALL rifles) >>> they would, simply, switch to handguns.

To what degree would that cut down on the number of victims in mass shootings?
After all, not that many pistols with 30 rd mags…

They are available, but you can change them so quickly it will NOT make a difference.

Really? Care to demonstrate how long it takes someone with a fully
automatic assault rifle to fire 30 rounds vs how long it takes with a 6
shot revolver?

:-)

Tommy is relying on a pedantry angle here: yes, there are a few pistols for which there's
been 30rd capacity magazines made, but that doesn't make them readily available, nor
particularly reliable or ergonomically easy to use.

Plus a pistol has an inherently lower aiming efficiency because unlike a long gun, it doesn't
employ a 'triangular' firing support position for barrel control: even a two handed hold on a
pistol is an inferior geometry, as it provides essentially a zero length moment arm for control.
This makes it substantially more difficult to accurately return to the aimpoint after the first shot.

-hh

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On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 10:20:10 PM UTC-4, TomS wrote:

...which begs the question WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? I have asked this question before of you libtards, and NEVER received a coherent reply, so I will try again: WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? Please be specific, as laws must be.

Assault weapons are those that were banned for the 10 years ending in 2004. They include AR-15s, AK-47s, Mac-11s, Uzis and other guns that were designed for military use, i.e., killing people. They are more powerful and lethal than non-assault weapons of
similar caliber. If you shoot someone in the hand with a .22, it will put a hole in his hand. If you do the same with an AR-15 (.223) it will blow his whole hand off. Is that coherent enough for you?

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On Monday, June 6, 2022 at 2:28:04 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:

On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 10:20:10 PM UTC-4, TomS wrote:

...which begs the question WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? I have asked this question before of you libtards, and NEVER received a coherent reply, so I will try again: WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? Please be specific, as laws must be.

Assault weapons are those that were banned for the 10 years ending in 2004. They include AR-15s, AK-47s, Mac-11s, Uzis and other guns that were designed for military use, i.e., killing people. They are more powerful and lethal than non-assault weapons

of similar caliber. If you shoot someone in the hand with a .22, it will put a hole in his hand. If you do the same with an AR-15 (.223) it will blow his whole hand off. Is that coherent enough for you?

Is that your BEST attempt at trying to be erudite? Because you come across as being condescending. Try talking to me as an adult and I will give you an adult response.

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TomS wrote:

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 2:57:44 AM UTC-7, Bigbird wrote:

TomS wrote:

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 3:38:38 PM UTC-7, Irving S wrote:

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 5:58:48 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:

TomS wrote:

...which begs the question WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? I have
asked this question before of you libtards, and NEVER
received a coherent reply, so I will try again: WHAT IS AN
ASSAULT RIFLE? Please be specific, as laws must be.

Perhaps you should learn to ask questions like a civilised
adult and not an demented arsehole.

LOL!

Anyone that reads your obscene vulgar rants would say YOU are a demented arsehole.

Must really suck to be a dog walker, and no dogs to walk. Dogs
are perceptive, they see for you the crud you are. Don't give
up hope loser, somewhere out there, there is a dog waiting to
be walked. It might take 5 years, but you will find that dog.
That dog will see you for what you are, and piss on your leg. A
waste of piss for sure.

As before, the libtards here can't answer a SIMPLE QUESTION!
Well, if you are going to write a law (not the libtards here on
RSG who can barely write their name, but so-called legislators)
you will HAVE to define what an "assault rifle" is. And the
definition in the old law was so hopelessly meaningless that it
had ZERO impact on rifle deaths (which is an almost zero
proportion of firearm homicides anyway).

So it needs more work. It's just a first step toward removing
deadly weapons used by mass murders from your demented hands.

I note you won't answer my question, hypocrite.
If the 1994 ban had been revised and renewed how many of the legal
guns used in mass shooting would have been banned and how many
people were they used to kill/injure?

Hey BirdBrain, I have stopped replying to your (and Irving's) inane
and insane comments.

Liar.

You just selectively run like a pussy we all know you are.

Your whole attitude to guns is driven by your fear.

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TomS wrote:

Mass murders won't even make into the Top 100 causes of death.

Vapid. A clear indication you feel you have lost the argument you chose
to have.

What kind of fucktard compare homicide with heart disease?

If you
denied them access to what is erroneously called "assault rifles"
(not likely as you are talking about mass confiscation of ALL rifles)
they would, simply, switch to handguns. And if you went whole hog and confiscated EVERY firearm (which is blatantly unconstitutional) they
would switch to a car, pickup or truck (which has happened).

So you are claiming that it is not the weapons but the mentality of Americans... a culture of psychopaths?

Is that why you have 5 times the murder rate of European countries?

Face it Betty, you thought you were being clever but you just proved
what a fucktard you are.

You truly are just a demented old fart Betty.

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TomS wrote:

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 2:30:52 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

On 2022-06-05 1:07 p.m., TomS wrote:

On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 8:34:13 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

On 2022-06-04 8:23 p.m., TomS wrote:

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 3:38:38 PM UTC-7, Irving S wrote:

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 5:58:48 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:

TomS wrote:

...which begs the question WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? I have
asked this question before of you libtards, and NEVER
received a coherent reply, so I will try again: WHAT IS AN
ASSAULT RIFLE? Please be specific, as laws must be.

Perhaps you should learn to ask questions like a civilised
adult and not an demented arsehole.

LOL!

Anyone that reads your obscene vulgar rants would say YOU are

a >>>> demented arsehole.

Must really suck to be a dog walker, and no dogs to walk. Dogs
are perceptive, they see for you the crud you are. Don't give
up hope loser, somewhere out there, there is a dog waiting to
be walked. It might take 5 years, but you will find that dog.
That dog will see you for what you are, and piss on your leg.

A >>>> waste of piss for sure.

As before, the libtards here can't answer a SIMPLE QUESTION!
Well, if you are going to write a law (not the libtards here on
RSG who can barely write their name, but so-called legislators)
you will HAVE to define what an "assault rifle" is. And the
definition in the old law was so hopelessly meaningless that it
had ZERO impact on rifle deaths (which is an almost zero
proportion of firearm homicides anyway).

Is an AR-15/M-16 an assault rifle? Yes or no?

'An assault rifle is a selective fire rifle that uses an
intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.'

Let's see:

"Selective fire"?

Well, I'll guess we'll need to define that for you:

A "selective fire" weapon can fire in both semi-automatic, fully
automatic, and potentially, a burst mode as well.

The M-16 was a selective fire weapon.

LOL! And the AR-15 IS NOT!!!!! Having a fully auto mode is what
makes an assault rife an assault rifle, and you CAN NOT buy a new
fully auto weapon of any sort (and the used ones have a ton of restrictions).

It's just too easy to convert it to automatic fire.

If it's so damn easy go do it and tell us how you did it.

"Intermediate cartridge"?

We'll pretend we don't have to define that for you and that you
will just understand that the 5.56mmx45 NATO cartridge is indeed
an intermediate cartridge.

That applies to virtually all hunting rifles.

Actually no. Most hunting rifles are quite a bit larger caliber.

"Detachable magazine"? You bet.

And that applies to virtual ALL semi-auto weapons, including
handguns. Even the cylinder is detachable on most revolvers.

You understand what "and" means in a definition, right?

And while in general, rifles don't figure that largely in the
ridiculous number of people who die from firearms in your

country, >> assault rifles are the overwhelming choice for the mass
murders who >> kill in large numbers.

Mass murders won't even make into the Top 100 causes of death. If
you denied them access to what is erroneously called "assault
rifles" (not likely as you are talking about mass confiscation of
ALL rifles) they would, simply, switch to handguns. And if you
went whole hog and confiscated EVERY firearm (which is blatantly unconstitutional) they would switch to a car, pickup or truck
(which has happened).

Typical of libtards, you look at an inanimate object as the
problem when it is the person. If you study serial killers they
rarely use firearms to kill their victims. What would REALLY help
is the STRICT enforcement of EXISTING gun laws, like straw buyers
and people who lie on their gun application form (like Hunter
BooBoo). Criminals caught with illegal firearms typically have
the gun enhancement charge pled down.

So if the problem is just "the person"...

You sound like these idiot TV anchors who say "A gun killed a
person..."

...why is the US the only place where this is an epidemic, Sunshine?

Come again: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle-ramming_attack

You libtards just can't handle a rational discussion, can you?

Claims the pussy you showed his true nature by running away when asked
the simplest of questions that show clearly what a ridiculous vapid
argument he is proffering.

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TomS wrote:

Is that your BEST attempt at trying to be erudite? Because you come
across as being condescending. Try talking to me as an adult and I
will give you an adult response.

The lack of self-awareness is sad yet hilarious.

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I wasn't trying to be erudite, I was answering your question. But you seem more concerned about my tone than about the facts.

On Monday, June 6, 2022 at 9:15:43 PM UTC-4, TomS wrote:

On Monday, June 6, 2022 at 2:28:04 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:

On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 10:20:10 PM UTC-4, TomS wrote:

...which begs the question WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? I have asked this question before of you libtards, and NEVER received a coherent reply, so I will try again: WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE? Please be specific, as laws must be.

Assault weapons are those that were banned for the 10 years ending in 2004. They include AR-15s, AK-47s, Mac-11s, Uzis and other guns that were designed for military use, i.e., killing people. They are more powerful and lethal than non-assault

weapons of similar caliber. If you shoot someone in the hand with a .22, it will put a hole in his hand. If you do the same with an AR-15 (.223) it will blow his whole hand off. Is that coherent enough for you?

Is that your BEST attempt at trying to be erudite? Because you come across as being condescending. Try talking to me as an adult and I will give you an adult response.

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On Tuesday, June 7, 2022 at 11:00:06 AM UTC-4, John B. wrote:

I wasn't trying to be erudite, I was answering your question.
But you seem more concerned about my tone than about the facts.

Yes, it does appear that way. In any event, I thought that your
reply to Tommy's "DEFINE!" troll was quite humorously useful:
pretty much a "do the same as we did before"...

...as that deftly sidesteps the known shortcomings it had in
definitions which made it problematic - - which is precisely why
this "definitions" talking point red herring invariably gets invoked
as a diversion attempt.

Personally, if I were asked to rework the legal definitions, I'd
probably add additional focus on two design element factor
areas, namely something on inherent system weight & design.
For example, the AR series employs an aluminum receiver whose
main design purpose is to guide parts, and not directly provide
the strength for resisting chamber pressure. Similarly, since the
real key to sustained firing rate in semi-autos is the ergonomics
of box magazine swaps, I'd look into addressing that on a functional
basis. IIRC, I believe I had heard that California(?) had something
along these lines where the magazine release UI was altered, but
there was also a workaround which defeated its intended purpose.

What could be interesting would be to hold annual "hacker" style
competitions, where there's a robust cash prize for a contestant who
can do a magazine swap in under "N" seconds ... and upon that
happening a few times, that manufacturer's design ends up on the
controlled list, because their design was thus demonstrated as being
inadequate to limit the rate of mag swaps. Yes, this is outlined as a
system _performance_ standard instead of as a mere attribute, with
the cash prize forming the means of a motivation to stress the test.


-hh

On Monday, June 6, 2022 at 9:15:43 PM UTC-4, TomS wrote:

On Monday, June 6, 2022 at 2:28:04 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:

On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 10:20:10 PM UTC-4, TomS wrote:

...which begs the question WHAT IS AN ASSAULT RIFLE?
I have asked this question before of you libtards, and NEVER
received a coherent reply, so I will try again: WHAT IS AN
ASSAULT RIFLE? Please be specific, as laws must be.

Assault weapons are those that were banned for the 10 years
ending in 2004. They include AR-15s, AK-47s, Mac-11s, Uzis and
other guns that were designed for military use, i.e., killing people. They are more powerful and lethal than non-assault weapons of
similar caliber. If you shoot someone in the hand with a .22, it
will put a hole in his hand. If you do the same with an AR-15 (.223)
it will blow his whole hand off. Is that coherent enough for you?

Is that your BEST attempt at trying to be erudite? Because you
come across as being condescending. Try talking to me as an
adult and I will give you an adult response.

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