• OT: Still think there's not a real problem with racism in the US?

    From Alan@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 20 06:44:31 2022
    Check out page <https://web.archive.org/web/20160201193424/https://evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/sites/evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/files/file-attachments/lesson-plans-introduction-to-primates.pdf>

    Check out page 12.

    Yes: Duke University really produced that.

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  • From TomS@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri May 20 19:34:10 2022
    On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 6:44:35 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    Check out page <https://web.archive.org/web/20160201193424/https://evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/sites/evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/files/file-attachments/lesson-plans-introduction-to-primates.pdf>

    Check out page 12.

    Yes: Duke University really produced that.

    Please explain what is racist about this report.

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  • From Tom Elam@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat May 21 10:43:41 2022
    On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 9:44:35 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    Check out page <https://web.archive.org/web/20160201193424/https://evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/sites/evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/files/file-attachments/lesson-plans-introduction-to-primates.pdf>

    Check out page 12.

    Yes: Duke University really produced that.

    Are you saying that humans are not primates when 99% of our DNA is identical to chimpanzees?

    Or, are you pissed off that they chose Obama as an example of a primate? Maybe they should have used this guy as their human primate example?

    https://www.facebook.com/alangbaker?comment_id=Y29tbWVudDoxMDE1ODY1MTM5MzM1NTU5NV8xMDE1ODY1MTU1ODA5MDU5NQ%3D%3D

    Feeling ignored, are you?

    If you look further in the lesson plan you will see white men and women used as examples. What's racist about this? It's all scientific facts.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Sat May 21 11:48:51 2022
    On 2022-05-21 10:43 a.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 9:44:35 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    Check out page
    <https://web.archive.org/web/20160201193424/https://evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/sites/evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/files/file-attachments/lesson-plans-introduction-to-primates.pdf>

    Check out page 12.

    Yes: Duke University really produced that.

    Are you saying that humans are not primates when 99% of our DNA is identical to chimpanzees?

    I'm saying the choice was quite deliberate.

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  • From Tom Elam@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun May 22 13:26:07 2022
    On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 2:48:54 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-21 10:43 a.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 9:44:35 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    Check out page
    <https://web.archive.org/web/20160201193424/https://evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/sites/evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/files/file-attachments/lesson-plans-introduction-to-primates.pdf>

    Check out page 12.

    Yes: Duke University really produced that.

    Are you saying that humans are not primates when 99% of our DNA is identical to chimpanzees?
    I'm saying the choice was quite deliberate.

    This from a sexist scumbag who thinks his Facebook details page "I'd love you more for your mind if it bounced gently when you walked" is funny.

    Back to the Duke PDF found on WayBack. So were the choices on pages 40, 45, 80, 96 and 97 of said document.

    Duke is an inclusive and racially diverse university. Here is their policy: https://oie.duke.edu/diversity-equity-and-inclusion

    Check out the graduation picture at https://trinity.duke.edu/alumni. What do you notice?

    From https://trinity.duke.edu/statement-diversity-inclusion

    <quote>

    Diversity is at the heart of a liberal arts education—and at the very core of our institutional values. Trinity College of Arts & Sciences awards nearly 80 percent of undergraduate degrees and nearly 40 percent of all graduate degrees, in disciplines
    across the arts, humanities, natural sciences and social sciences. We believe that we can learn the most from those who are different from ourselves. As such, we also believe that diversity--in all its forms--is a driver for new ideas, creativity and
    academic excellence. To be a truly educated person, we believe we all should embrace and practice an appreciation for different disciplines, thought processes, modes of expression, and histories. We are dedicated each day to providing such an education,
    and we recognize that to do so, we must also be dedicated to ensuring inclusion of every member of our community.

    We are committed to promoting a deep appreciation for the range of human difference and potential, a sense of the obligations and rewards of citizenship, and a commitment to learning, freedom and truth. We are dedicated to promoting an intellectual
    environment built on a commitment to free and open inquiry. And, we champion intellectual freedom and the courage to hold, articulate and defend and debate ideas, whether popular or not, as an essential value of the university.

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  • From Irving S@21:1/5 to thomas...@gmail.com on Sun May 22 13:33:58 2022
    On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 4:26:09 PM UTC-4, thomas...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 2:48:54 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-21 10:43 a.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 9:44:35 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    Check out page
    <https://web.archive.org/web/20160201193424/https://evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/sites/evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/files/file-attachments/lesson-plans-introduction-to-primates.pdf>

    Check out page 12.

    Yes: Duke University really produced that.

    Are you saying that humans are not primates when 99% of our DNA is identical to chimpanzees?
    I'm saying the choice was quite deliberate.
    This from a sexist scumbag who thinks his Facebook details page "I'd love you more for your mind if it bounced gently when you walked" is funny.

    Back to the Duke PDF found on WayBack. So were the choices on pages 40, 45, 80, 96 and 97 of said document.

    Duke is an inclusive and racially diverse university. Here is their policy: https://oie.duke.edu/diversity-equity-and-inclusion

    Check out the graduation picture at https://trinity.duke.edu/alumni. What do you notice?

    From https://trinity.duke.edu/statement-diversity-inclusion

    <quote>

    Diversity is at the heart of a liberal arts education—and at the very core of our institutional values. Trinity College of Arts & Sciences awards nearly 80 percent of undergraduate degrees and nearly 40 percent of all graduate degrees, in disciplines
    across the arts, humanities, natural sciences and social sciences. We believe that we can learn the most from those who are different from ourselves. As such, we also believe that diversity--in all its forms--is a driver for new ideas, creativity and
    academic excellence. To be a truly educated person, we believe we all should embrace and practice an appreciation for different disciplines, thought processes, modes of expression, and histories. We are dedicated each day to providing such an education,
    and we recognize that to do so, we must also be dedicated to ensuring inclusion of every member of our community.

    We are committed to promoting a deep appreciation for the range of human difference and potential, a sense of the obligations and rewards of citizenship, and a commitment to learning, freedom and truth. We are dedicated to promoting an intellectual
    environment built on a commitment to free and open inquiry. And, we champion intellectual freedom and the courage to hold, articulate and defend and debate ideas, whether popular or not, as an essential value of the university.


    Tom, you sound like a smart quality guy and probably are. Why you waste time with imbeciles like this is beoynd me. I come here just to study human behavior, it amazes me frankly the level of stupidity here, and I find it humerous and a way to pass a
    few minutes. Nothing more. There twits are to be trolled and mocked, most are trollable garbage.

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  • From Tom Elam@21:1/5 to Irving S on Tue May 24 09:37:42 2022
    On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 4:33:59 PM UTC-4, Irving S wrote:
    On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 4:26:09 PM UTC-4, thomas...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 2:48:54 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-21 10:43 a.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 9:44:35 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    Check out page
    <https://web.archive.org/web/20160201193424/https://evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/sites/evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/files/file-attachments/lesson-plans-introduction-to-primates.pdf>

    Check out page 12.

    Yes: Duke University really produced that.

    Are you saying that humans are not primates when 99% of our DNA is identical to chimpanzees?
    I'm saying the choice was quite deliberate.
    This from a sexist scumbag who thinks his Facebook details page "I'd love you more for your mind if it bounced gently when you walked" is funny.

    Back to the Duke PDF found on WayBack. So were the choices on pages 40, 45, 80, 96 and 97 of said document.

    Duke is an inclusive and racially diverse university. Here is their policy: https://oie.duke.edu/diversity-equity-and-inclusion

    Check out the graduation picture at https://trinity.duke.edu/alumni. What do you notice?

    From https://trinity.duke.edu/statement-diversity-inclusion

    <quote>

    Diversity is at the heart of a liberal arts education—and at the very core of our institutional values. Trinity College of Arts & Sciences awards nearly 80 percent of undergraduate degrees and nearly 40 percent of all graduate degrees, in
    disciplines across the arts, humanities, natural sciences and social sciences. We believe that we can learn the most from those who are different from ourselves. As such, we also believe that diversity--in all its forms--is a driver for new ideas,
    creativity and academic excellence. To be a truly educated person, we believe we all should embrace and practice an appreciation for different disciplines, thought processes, modes of expression, and histories. We are dedicated each day to providing such
    an education, and we recognize that to do so, we must also be dedicated to ensuring inclusion of every member of our community.

    We are committed to promoting a deep appreciation for the range of human difference and potential, a sense of the obligations and rewards of citizenship, and a commitment to learning, freedom and truth. We are dedicated to promoting an intellectual
    environment built on a commitment to free and open inquiry. And, we champion intellectual freedom and the courage to hold, articulate and defend and debate ideas, whether popular or not, as an essential value of the university.
    Tom, you sound like a smart quality guy and probably are. Why you waste time with imbeciles like this is beoynd me. I come here just to study human behavior, it amazes me frankly the level of stupidity here, and I find it humerous and a way to pass a
    few minutes. Nothing more. There twits are to be trolled and mocked, most are trollable garbage.

    Not as smart as I used to be but not a college dropout either like Alan either.

    Alan is a hoot. He seems to have no idea how the obscure Duke document he references support his argument of American racism is so ridiculous. If you want to demonstrate U.S. racism cite the recent targeting of blacks in a supermarket shooting or the
    emerging radical right's "replacement theory". BUT, why pick on America? Racism is endemic everywhere, even Canada. Just look at their segregation and treatment of what they call the people of the "First Nations". Or for that matter, much wider racism
    issues in Canada and EVEN Vancouver. Google Vancouver race issues. You get a lot of hits. Just a sample:

    https://the-peak.ca/2015/01/racism-is-still-a-prominent-issue-in-vancouver/ https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/metro-vancouver-racism-municipalities-policies-1.5615831
    https://www.straight.com/news/734491/history-shows-racism-has-always-been-part-vancouver-real-estate
    https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2021-vancouver-canada-asian-hate-crimes/ https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/british-columbians-side-strongly-with-systemic-racism-being-issue-in-need-of-action-poll-finds
    https://policyoptions.irpp.org/magazines/october-2021/racist-labour-exploitation-continues-in-multicultural-canada/
    https://bc.ctvnews.ca/no-charges-for-metro-vancouver-teens-who-hurled-racial-slurs-threats-on-social-media-1.5315896

    India, South Africa, Israel, Japan, Mexico, Australia, just about any country with ethnic diversity has racism to some degree. Jews, blacks, all foreigners (Japan), untouchables (India), native Americans (North and South) the list of the oppressed just
    goes on and on.

    WTF is Alan's issue with the U.S.? What's he doing to combat racism in Vancouver? Where's the racial diversity in Sports Car Club of BC? Where is the diversity in the photos on Alan's Facebook site?

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  • From Irving S@21:1/5 to thomas...@gmail.com on Tue May 24 09:49:48 2022
    On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 12:37:43 PM UTC-4, thomas...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 4:33:59 PM UTC-4, Irving S wrote:
    On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 4:26:09 PM UTC-4, thomas...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 2:48:54 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-21 10:43 a.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 9:44:35 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    Check out page
    <https://web.archive.org/web/20160201193424/https://evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/sites/evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/files/file-attachments/lesson-plans-introduction-to-primates.pdf>

    Check out page 12.

    Yes: Duke University really produced that.

    Are you saying that humans are not primates when 99% of our DNA is identical to chimpanzees?
    I'm saying the choice was quite deliberate.
    This from a sexist scumbag who thinks his Facebook details page "I'd love you more for your mind if it bounced gently when you walked" is funny.

    Back to the Duke PDF found on WayBack. So were the choices on pages 40, 45, 80, 96 and 97 of said document.

    Duke is an inclusive and racially diverse university. Here is their policy: https://oie.duke.edu/diversity-equity-and-inclusion

    Check out the graduation picture at https://trinity.duke.edu/alumni. What do you notice?

    From https://trinity.duke.edu/statement-diversity-inclusion

    <quote>

    Diversity is at the heart of a liberal arts education—and at the very core of our institutional values. Trinity College of Arts & Sciences awards nearly 80 percent of undergraduate degrees and nearly 40 percent of all graduate degrees, in
    disciplines across the arts, humanities, natural sciences and social sciences. We believe that we can learn the most from those who are different from ourselves. As such, we also believe that diversity--in all its forms--is a driver for new ideas,
    creativity and academic excellence. To be a truly educated person, we believe we all should embrace and practice an appreciation for different disciplines, thought processes, modes of expression, and histories. We are dedicated each day to providing such
    an education, and we recognize that to do so, we must also be dedicated to ensuring inclusion of every member of our community.

    We are committed to promoting a deep appreciation for the range of human difference and potential, a sense of the obligations and rewards of citizenship, and a commitment to learning, freedom and truth. We are dedicated to promoting an intellectual
    environment built on a commitment to free and open inquiry. And, we champion intellectual freedom and the courage to hold, articulate and defend and debate ideas, whether popular or not, as an essential value of the university.
    Tom, you sound like a smart quality guy and probably are. Why you waste time with imbeciles like this is beoynd me. I come here just to study human behavior, it amazes me frankly the level of stupidity here, and I find it humerous and a way to pass a
    few minutes. Nothing more. There twits are to be trolled and mocked, most are trollable garbage.
    Not as smart as I used to be but not a college dropout either like Alan either.

    Alan is a hoot. He seems to have no idea how the obscure Duke document he references support his argument of American racism is so ridiculous. If you want to demonstrate U.S. racism cite the recent targeting of blacks in a supermarket shooting or the
    emerging radical right's "replacement theory". BUT, why pick on America? Racism is endemic everywhere, even Canada. Just look at their segregation and treatment of what they call the people of the "First Nations". Or for that matter, much wider racism
    issues in Canada and EVEN Vancouver. Google Vancouver race issues. You get a lot of hits. Just a sample:

    https://the-peak.ca/2015/01/racism-is-still-a-prominent-issue-in-vancouver/ https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/metro-vancouver-racism-municipalities-policies-1.5615831
    https://www.straight.com/news/734491/history-shows-racism-has-always-been-part-vancouver-real-estate
    https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2021-vancouver-canada-asian-hate-crimes/ https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/british-columbians-side-strongly-with-systemic-racism-being-issue-in-need-of-action-poll-finds
    https://policyoptions.irpp.org/magazines/october-2021/racist-labour-exploitation-continues-in-multicultural-canada/
    https://bc.ctvnews.ca/no-charges-for-metro-vancouver-teens-who-hurled-racial-slurs-threats-on-social-media-1.5315896

    India, South Africa, Israel, Japan, Mexico, Australia, just about any country with ethnic diversity has racism to some degree. Jews, blacks, all foreigners (Japan), untouchables (India), native Americans (North and South) the list of the oppressed just
    goes on and on.

    WTF is Alan's issue with the U.S.? What's he doing to combat racism in Vancouver? Where's the racial diversity in Sports Car Club of BC? Where is the diversity in the photos on Alan's Facebook site?

    He is only interested in one thing. Attention seeking and contrary behavior. Hundreds of thousands of posts, amazing. Why a smart guy like you wastes time with a game playing colledge dropout like this is nothing short of amazing. I refuse to take
    any of this seriously. I come here for laughs. What purports to be serious conversation is just a game. It is really fun, watching these clowns interact.

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  • From Tom Elam@21:1/5 to Irving S on Tue May 24 11:14:11 2022
    On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 12:49:50 PM UTC-4, Irving S wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 12:37:43 PM UTC-4, thomas...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 4:33:59 PM UTC-4, Irving S wrote:
    On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 4:26:09 PM UTC-4, thomas...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 2:48:54 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-21 10:43 a.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 9:44:35 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    Check out page
    <https://web.archive.org/web/20160201193424/https://evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/sites/evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/files/file-attachments/lesson-plans-introduction-to-primates.pdf>

    Check out page 12.

    Yes: Duke University really produced that.

    Are you saying that humans are not primates when 99% of our DNA is identical to chimpanzees?
    I'm saying the choice was quite deliberate.
    This from a sexist scumbag who thinks his Facebook details page "I'd love you more for your mind if it bounced gently when you walked" is funny.

    Back to the Duke PDF found on WayBack. So were the choices on pages 40, 45, 80, 96 and 97 of said document.

    Duke is an inclusive and racially diverse university. Here is their policy: https://oie.duke.edu/diversity-equity-and-inclusion

    Check out the graduation picture at https://trinity.duke.edu/alumni. What do you notice?

    From https://trinity.duke.edu/statement-diversity-inclusion

    <quote>

    Diversity is at the heart of a liberal arts education—and at the very core of our institutional values. Trinity College of Arts & Sciences awards nearly 80 percent of undergraduate degrees and nearly 40 percent of all graduate degrees, in
    disciplines across the arts, humanities, natural sciences and social sciences. We believe that we can learn the most from those who are different from ourselves. As such, we also believe that diversity--in all its forms--is a driver for new ideas,
    creativity and academic excellence. To be a truly educated person, we believe we all should embrace and practice an appreciation for different disciplines, thought processes, modes of expression, and histories. We are dedicated each day to providing such
    an education, and we recognize that to do so, we must also be dedicated to ensuring inclusion of every member of our community.

    We are committed to promoting a deep appreciation for the range of human difference and potential, a sense of the obligations and rewards of citizenship, and a commitment to learning, freedom and truth. We are dedicated to promoting an
    intellectual environment built on a commitment to free and open inquiry. And, we champion intellectual freedom and the courage to hold, articulate and defend and debate ideas, whether popular or not, as an essential value of the university.
    Tom, you sound like a smart quality guy and probably are. Why you waste time with imbeciles like this is beoynd me. I come here just to study human behavior, it amazes me frankly the level of stupidity here, and I find it humerous and a way to pass
    a few minutes. Nothing more. There twits are to be trolled and mocked, most are trollable garbage.
    Not as smart as I used to be but not a college dropout either like Alan either.

    Alan is a hoot. He seems to have no idea how the obscure Duke document he references support his argument of American racism is so ridiculous. If you want to demonstrate U.S. racism cite the recent targeting of blacks in a supermarket shooting or the
    emerging radical right's "replacement theory". BUT, why pick on America? Racism is endemic everywhere, even Canada. Just look at their segregation and treatment of what they call the people of the "First Nations". Or for that matter, much wider racism
    issues in Canada and EVEN Vancouver. Google Vancouver race issues. You get a lot of hits. Just a sample:

    https://the-peak.ca/2015/01/racism-is-still-a-prominent-issue-in-vancouver/
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/metro-vancouver-racism-municipalities-policies-1.5615831
    https://www.straight.com/news/734491/history-shows-racism-has-always-been-part-vancouver-real-estate
    https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2021-vancouver-canada-asian-hate-crimes/
    https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/british-columbians-side-strongly-with-systemic-racism-being-issue-in-need-of-action-poll-finds
    https://policyoptions.irpp.org/magazines/october-2021/racist-labour-exploitation-continues-in-multicultural-canada/
    https://bc.ctvnews.ca/no-charges-for-metro-vancouver-teens-who-hurled-racial-slurs-threats-on-social-media-1.5315896

    India, South Africa, Israel, Japan, Mexico, Australia, just about any country with ethnic diversity has racism to some degree. Jews, blacks, all foreigners (Japan), untouchables (India), native Americans (North and South) the list of the oppressed
    just goes on and on.

    WTF is Alan's issue with the U.S.? What's he doing to combat racism in Vancouver? Where's the racial diversity in Sports Car Club of BC? Where is the diversity in the photos on Alan's Facebook site?
    He is only interested in one thing. Attention seeking and contrary behavior. Hundreds of thousands of posts, amazing. Why a smart guy like you wastes time with a game playing colledge dropout like this is nothing short of amazing. I refuse to take any
    of this seriously. I come here for laughs. What purports to be serious conversation is just a game. It is really fun, watching these clowns interact.

    It's fun getting him all twisted up in his narcissism/paranoia. He thinks he is SOOOO truthful as he spins his selected-fact narratives like the one above. He also seems to think that if you contradict him you must be lying because he cannot be wrong.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Irving S@21:1/5 to thomas...@gmail.com on Tue May 24 11:17:41 2022
    On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 2:14:13 PM UTC-4, thomas...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 12:49:50 PM UTC-4, Irving S wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 12:37:43 PM UTC-4, thomas...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 4:33:59 PM UTC-4, Irving S wrote:
    On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 4:26:09 PM UTC-4, thomas...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 2:48:54 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-21 10:43 a.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 9:44:35 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    Check out page
    <https://web.archive.org/web/20160201193424/https://evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/sites/evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/files/file-attachments/lesson-plans-introduction-to-primates.pdf>

    Check out page 12.

    Yes: Duke University really produced that.

    Are you saying that humans are not primates when 99% of our DNA is identical to chimpanzees?
    I'm saying the choice was quite deliberate.
    This from a sexist scumbag who thinks his Facebook details page "I'd love you more for your mind if it bounced gently when you walked" is funny.

    Back to the Duke PDF found on WayBack. So were the choices on pages 40, 45, 80, 96 and 97 of said document.

    Duke is an inclusive and racially diverse university. Here is their policy: https://oie.duke.edu/diversity-equity-and-inclusion

    Check out the graduation picture at https://trinity.duke.edu/alumni. What do you notice?

    From https://trinity.duke.edu/statement-diversity-inclusion

    <quote>

    Diversity is at the heart of a liberal arts education—and at the very core of our institutional values. Trinity College of Arts & Sciences awards nearly 80 percent of undergraduate degrees and nearly 40 percent of all graduate degrees, in
    disciplines across the arts, humanities, natural sciences and social sciences. We believe that we can learn the most from those who are different from ourselves. As such, we also believe that diversity--in all its forms--is a driver for new ideas,
    creativity and academic excellence. To be a truly educated person, we believe we all should embrace and practice an appreciation for different disciplines, thought processes, modes of expression, and histories. We are dedicated each day to providing such
    an education, and we recognize that to do so, we must also be dedicated to ensuring inclusion of every member of our community.

    We are committed to promoting a deep appreciation for the range of human difference and potential, a sense of the obligations and rewards of citizenship, and a commitment to learning, freedom and truth. We are dedicated to promoting an
    intellectual environment built on a commitment to free and open inquiry. And, we champion intellectual freedom and the courage to hold, articulate and defend and debate ideas, whether popular or not, as an essential value of the university.
    Tom, you sound like a smart quality guy and probably are. Why you waste time with imbeciles like this is beoynd me. I come here just to study human behavior, it amazes me frankly the level of stupidity here, and I find it humerous and a way to
    pass a few minutes. Nothing more. There twits are to be trolled and mocked, most are trollable garbage.
    Not as smart as I used to be but not a college dropout either like Alan either.

    Alan is a hoot. He seems to have no idea how the obscure Duke document he references support his argument of American racism is so ridiculous. If you want to demonstrate U.S. racism cite the recent targeting of blacks in a supermarket shooting or
    the emerging radical right's "replacement theory". BUT, why pick on America? Racism is endemic everywhere, even Canada. Just look at their segregation and treatment of what they call the people of the "First Nations". Or for that matter, much wider
    racism issues in Canada and EVEN Vancouver. Google Vancouver race issues. You get a lot of hits. Just a sample:

    https://the-peak.ca/2015/01/racism-is-still-a-prominent-issue-in-vancouver/
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/metro-vancouver-racism-municipalities-policies-1.5615831
    https://www.straight.com/news/734491/history-shows-racism-has-always-been-part-vancouver-real-estate
    https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2021-vancouver-canada-asian-hate-crimes/
    https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/british-columbians-side-strongly-with-systemic-racism-being-issue-in-need-of-action-poll-finds
    https://policyoptions.irpp.org/magazines/october-2021/racist-labour-exploitation-continues-in-multicultural-canada/
    https://bc.ctvnews.ca/no-charges-for-metro-vancouver-teens-who-hurled-racial-slurs-threats-on-social-media-1.5315896

    India, South Africa, Israel, Japan, Mexico, Australia, just about any country with ethnic diversity has racism to some degree. Jews, blacks, all foreigners (Japan), untouchables (India), native Americans (North and South) the list of the oppressed
    just goes on and on.

    WTF is Alan's issue with the U.S.? What's he doing to combat racism in Vancouver? Where's the racial diversity in Sports Car Club of BC? Where is the diversity in the photos on Alan's Facebook site?
    He is only interested in one thing. Attention seeking and contrary behavior. Hundreds of thousands of posts, amazing. Why a smart guy like you wastes time with a game playing colledge dropout like this is nothing short of amazing. I refuse to take
    any of this seriously. I come here for laughs. What purports to be serious conversation is just a game. It is really fun, watching these clowns interact.
    It's fun getting him all twisted up in his narcissism/paranoia. He thinks he is SOOOO truthful as he spins his selected-fact narratives like the one above. He also seems to think that if you contradict him you must be lying because he cannot be wrong.

    I get it. He is pure comedy relief. It is hard to believe that anyone could be such a doofus, but hundreds of thousands of posts sure are telling. Yes, it is fun following this old man, the same routine year after year. He never seems to tire of it.
    Hilarious, for all the effort and time spent, not much to show for it. Other than folks like us laughing for the sheer entertainment he provides. He does serve a useful purpose.

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  • From Bigbird@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Tue May 24 19:18:15 2022
    Tom Elam wrote:

    This from a sexist scumbag who thinks his Facebook details page "I'd
    love you more for your mind if it bounced gently when you walked" is
    funny.


    I worry that someone who claims they cannot see how that can be
    considered humourous is rather disingenuous or pretentiously "woke". To
    go further and attempt to condemn someone for it strikes me as a small
    minded attempt at point scoring. It reminds me of ex-smokers who are
    offended by anyone smoking in their presence. Perhaps Tommy is exposing
    his history of sexual harassment and sexist behaviour.

    Which is it Tommy?

    --
    Bozo bin
    Amos P (transgender nymshifter)
    Jerry C. (same attention seeking nymshifter)
    Michael P. (transgender nymshifter)
    Felicity (transgender nymshifter)
    George R (transgender nymshifter)
    Irving S (transgender nymshifter)
    Enjoy!

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  • From Tom Elam@21:1/5 to Bigbird on Wed May 25 06:54:56 2022
    On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 3:18:17 PM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:
    Tom Elam wrote:

    This from a sexist scumbag who thinks his Facebook details page "I'd
    love you more for your mind if it bounced gently when you walked" is
    funny.

    I worry that someone who claims they cannot see how that can be
    considered humourous is rather disingenuous or pretentiously "woke". To
    go further and attempt to condemn someone for it strikes me as a small
    minded attempt at point scoring. It reminds me of ex-smokers who are
    offended by anyone smoking in their presence. Perhaps Tommy is exposing
    his history of sexual harassment and sexist behaviour.

    Which is it Tommy?

    --
    Bozo bin
    Amos P (transgender nymshifter)
    Jerry C. (same attention seeking nymshifter)
    Michael P. (transgender nymshifter)
    Felicity (transgender nymshifter)
    George R (transgender nymshifter)
    Irving S (transgender nymshifter)
    Enjoy!

    Please do not worry. I totally fail to see the humor. Why? Alan poses as a woke liberal but at the same time denigrates females in his sexist Facebook meme.

    I am most certainly not "woke".

    The fact that I am offended by Alan's attitude toward women is all you need to know. No wonder he is not married. Any woman worth marrying can see right through his transparent facade.

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  • From Bigbird@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Wed May 25 16:56:23 2022
    Tom Elam wrote:

    On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 3:18:17 PM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:
    Tom Elam wrote:

    This from a sexist scumbag who thinks his Facebook details page
    "I'd love you more for your mind if it bounced gently when you
    walked" is funny.

    I worry that someone who claims they cannot see how that can be
    considered humourous is rather disingenuous or pretentiously
    "woke". To go further and attempt to condemn someone for it strikes
    me as a small minded attempt at point scoring. It reminds me of
    ex-smokers who are offended by anyone smoking in their presence.
    Perhaps Tommy is exposing his history of sexual harassment and
    sexist behaviour.

    Which is it Tommy?


    Please do not worry. I totally fail to see the humor. Why? Alan poses
    as a woke liberal but at the same time denigrates females in his
    sexist Facebook meme.

    I am most certainly not "woke".

    The fact that I am offended by Alan's attitude toward women is all
    you need to know. No wonder he is not married. Any woman worth
    marrying can see right through his transparent facade.

    So now you don't just think it may be offensive to female individuals
    but you claim you find it personally offensive... so much so that not
    only have you brought it up several time but repeated the "offensive"
    jest.

    You continue to reinforce the notion that you are simply disingenuous
    and involved in childish point scoring. Nothing wrong with that but
    don't try to dress it up as something else, it doesn't wash.

    --
    Bozo bin
    Amos P (transgender nymshifter)
    Jerry C. (same attention seeking nymshifter)
    Michael P. (transgender nymshifter)
    Felicity (transgender nymshifter)
    George R (transgender nymshifter)
    Irving S (transgender nymshifter)
    Enjoy!

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  • From TomS@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed May 25 18:06:02 2022
    On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 6:44:35 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    Check out page <https://web.archive.org/web/20160201193424/https://evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/sites/evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/files/file-attachments/lesson-plans-introduction-to-primates.pdf>

    Check out page 12.

    Yes: Duke University really produced that.

    You didn't answer the question: WHAT is racist about that?

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  • From Tom Elam@21:1/5 to TomS on Thu May 26 10:25:09 2022
    On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 9:06:04 PM UTC-4, TomS wrote:
    On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 6:44:35 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    Check out page <https://web.archive.org/web/20160201193424/https://evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/sites/evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/files/file-attachments/lesson-plans-introduction-to-primates.pdf>

    Check out page 12.

    Yes: Duke University really produced that.
    You didn't answer the question: WHAT is racist about that?

    It's not racist, it's just Alan's obsessive trolling behavior.

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  • From Irving S@21:1/5 to thomas...@gmail.com on Thu May 26 14:50:33 2022
    On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 1:25:10 PM UTC-4, thomas...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 9:06:04 PM UTC-4, TomS wrote:
    On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 6:44:35 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    Check out page <https://web.archive.org/web/20160201193424/https://evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/sites/evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/files/file-attachments/lesson-plans-introduction-to-primates.pdf>

    Check out page 12.

    Yes: Duke University really produced that.
    You didn't answer the question: WHAT is racist about that?
    It's not racist, it's just Alan's obsessive trolling behavior.

    So please tell us why an obviously intelligent and successful person like you even gives this doofus the time of day. Are you equally bored or in need of attention?

    Holy crap, you all crack me up.

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  • From Tom Elam@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri May 27 08:14:34 2022
    On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 9:44:35 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    Check out page <https://web.archive.org/web/20160201193424/https://evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/sites/evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/files/file-attachments/lesson-plans-introduction-to-primates.pdf>

    Check out page 12.

    Yes: Duke University really produced that.

    Check out this page. Yes, an expensive and highly rated Indianapolis private school really produced this result.

    https://www.indystar.com/story/news/local/indianapolis/2022/05/27/alyssa-gaines-2022-national-youth-poet-laureate-indianapolis-art/9890504002/

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  • From Tom Elam@21:1/5 to Irving S on Fri May 27 08:11:34 2022
    On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 5:50:34 PM UTC-4, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 1:25:10 PM UTC-4, thomas...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 9:06:04 PM UTC-4, TomS wrote:
    On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 6:44:35 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    Check out page <https://web.archive.org/web/20160201193424/https://evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/sites/evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/files/file-attachments/lesson-plans-introduction-to-primates.pdf>

    Check out page 12.

    Yes: Duke University really produced that.
    You didn't answer the question: WHAT is racist about that?
    It's not racist, it's just Alan's obsessive trolling behavior.
    So please tell us why an obviously intelligent and successful person like you even gives this doofus the time of day. Are you equally bored or in need of attention?

    Holy crap, you all crack me up.

    I love pushing his buttons.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Fri May 27 10:55:10 2022
    On 2022-05-27 8:14 a.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 9:44:35 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    Check out page
    <https://web.archive.org/web/20160201193424/https://evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/sites/evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/files/file-attachments/lesson-plans-introduction-to-primates.pdf>

    Check out page 12.

    Yes: Duke University really produced that.

    Check out this page. Yes, an expensive and highly rated Indianapolis private school really produced this result.

    https://www.indystar.com/story/news/local/indianapolis/2022/05/27/alyssa-gaines-2022-national-youth-poet-laureate-indianapolis-art/9890504002/

    Interesting that I cannot see what you're objecting to...

    ...but you could instantly understand what I was driving at with my
    reference.

    So what specifically are you calling out here, Liarboy?

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  • From Tom Elam@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun May 29 04:50:20 2022
    On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 1:55:15 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-27 8:14 a.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 9:44:35 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    Check out page
    <https://web.archive.org/web/20160201193424/https://evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/sites/evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/files/file-attachments/lesson-plans-introduction-to-primates.pdf>

    Check out page 12.

    Yes: Duke University really produced that.

    Check out this page. Yes, an expensive and highly rated Indianapolis private school really produced this result.

    https://www.indystar.com/story/news/local/indianapolis/2022/05/27/alyssa-gaines-2022-national-youth-poet-laureate-indianapolis-art/9890504002/
    Interesting that I cannot see what you're objecting to...

    ...but you could instantly understand what I was driving at with my reference.

    So what specifically are you calling out here, Liarboy?

    You somehow found an obscure document that few others will ever see and stretched it into a broad-based claim about an entire country. I found plenty of racism evidence for Canada. I also found a misogamist quote on your own FaceBook page. We know we
    have issues. Do you acknowledge that Canada also has racism (and sexism) issues? Or are you going to dodge that question and tell yet another lie by omission? What is your issue with the U.S. when Canada is far from solving its own?

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  • From Bigbird@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Sun May 29 13:53:44 2022
    Tom Elam wrote:

    You somehow found an obscure document that few others will ever see
    and stretched it into a broad-based claim about an entire country. I
    found plenty of racism evidence for Canada. I also found a misogamist
    quote on your own FaceBook page. We know we have issues. Do you
    acknowledge that Canada also has racism (and sexism) issues? Or are
    you going to dodge that question and tell yet another lie by
    omission? What is your issue with the U.S. when Canada is far from
    solving its own?

    SJW Tom... trying to equate a saucy comment with the decades of
    systemic bigotry exuded by his country... as if racists needed
    defending in a country where bigotry has been normalised over the last
    few years.

    --
    Bozo bin
    Amos P (transgender nymshifter)
    Jerry C. (same attention seeking nymshifter)
    Michael P. (transgender nymshifter)
    Felicity (transgender nymshifter)
    George R (transgender nymshifter)
    Irving S (transgender nymshifter)
    Enjoy!

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  • From TomS@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun May 29 09:58:47 2022
    On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 10:55:15 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-27 8:14 a.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 9:44:35 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    Check out page
    <https://web.archive.org/web/20160201193424/https://evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/sites/evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/files/file-attachments/lesson-plans-introduction-to-primates.pdf>

    Check out page 12.

    Yes: Duke University really produced that.

    Check out this page. Yes, an expensive and highly rated Indianapolis private school really produced this result.

    https://www.indystar.com/story/news/local/indianapolis/2022/05/27/alyssa-gaines-2022-national-youth-poet-laureate-indianapolis-art/9890504002/
    Interesting that I cannot see what you're objecting to...

    ...but you could instantly understand what I was driving at with my reference.

    So what specifically are you calling out here, Liarboy?

    You STILL didn't answer the question: WHAT is racist about that?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Mon May 30 13:44:48 2022
    On 2022-05-29 4:50 a.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 1:55:15 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-27 8:14 a.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 9:44:35 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    Check out page
    <https://web.archive.org/web/20160201193424/https://evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/sites/evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/files/file-attachments/lesson-plans-introduction-to-primates.pdf>



    Check out page 12.

    Yes: Duke University really produced that.

    Check out this page. Yes, an expensive and highly rated
    Indianapolis private school really produced this result.

    https://www.indystar.com/story/news/local/indianapolis/2022/05/27/alyssa-gaines-2022-national-youth-poet-laureate-indianapolis-art/9890504002/


    Interesting that I cannot see what you're objecting to...

    ...but you could instantly understand what I was driving at with
    my reference.

    So what specifically are you calling out here, Liarboy?

    You never answered this question, Liarboy:

    What were you calling out by "really produced this result"?


    You somehow found an obscure document that few others will ever see
    and stretched it into a broad-based claim about an entire country. I
    found plenty of racism evidence for Canada. I also found a misogamist
    quote on your own FaceBook page. We know we have issues. Do you
    acknowledge that Canada also has racism (and sexism) issues? Or are
    you going to dodge that question and tell yet another lie by
    omission? What is your issue with the U.S. when Canada is far from
    solving its own?

    Actually it came up in a news feed.

    And it was pretty much all over the news.

    Even Fox covered it:

    <https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/roeper-diversity-director-digusted-with-worksheet-comparing-president-obama-to-monkeys>

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  • From Irving S@21:1/5 to thomas...@gmail.com on Tue May 31 07:35:58 2022
    On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 11:11:36 AM UTC-4, thomas...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 5:50:34 PM UTC-4, Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 1:25:10 PM UTC-4, thomas...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 9:06:04 PM UTC-4, TomS wrote:
    On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 6:44:35 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    Check out page <https://web.archive.org/web/20160201193424/https://evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/sites/evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/files/file-attachments/lesson-plans-introduction-to-primates.pdf>

    Check out page 12.

    Yes: Duke University really produced that.
    You didn't answer the question: WHAT is racist about that?
    It's not racist, it's just Alan's obsessive trolling behavior.
    So please tell us why an obviously intelligent and successful person like you even gives this doofus the time of day. Are you equally bored or in need of attention?

    Holy crap, you all crack me up.
    I love pushing his buttons.

    If a seemingly smart successful guy like you has nothing better to do then push the buttons of a twit like this, maybe you deserve each other. You clearly have a brain, and the degrees to back it up, is there not a better venue for you to be seeking
    discussion? Why waste your time with a college dropout?

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