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  • 428,000 New Jobs - President Biden

    From bruce bowser@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 6 10:25:33 2022
    Economy Adds 428,000 Jobs In April Even As COVID Cases Edge Higher, Unemployment Is Unchanged At 3.6%
    USA Today Newspaper - May 6, 2022
    -- https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2022/05/06/april-job-report-employers-covid/9664564002/

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  • From TomS@21:1/5 to bruce bowser on Sat May 7 21:51:25 2022
    On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 10:25:34 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
    Economy Adds 428,000 Jobs In April Even As COVID Cases Edge Higher, Unemployment Is Unchanged At 3.6%
    USA Today Newspaper - May 6, 2022
    -- https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2022/05/06/april-job-report-employers-covid/9664564002/

    No, they ARE NO new jobs - just people coming back to work that were unemployed by the pandemic. The labor participation rate is STILL much lower than under Trump.

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  • From bruce bowser@21:1/5 to TomS on Sun May 8 00:17:59 2022
    On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 12:51:26 AM UTC-4, TomS wrote:
    On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 10:25:34 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
    Economy Adds 428,000 Jobs In April Even As COVID Cases Edge Higher, Unemployment Is Unchanged At 3.6%
    USA Today Newspaper - May 6, 2022
    -- https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2022/05/06/april-job-report-employers-covid/9664564002/

    No, they ARE NO new jobs ...

    You're lyin' again, Tom.
    ==========================
    CBS News
    "Employers added 428,000 new jobs in April, on par with growth in March. The unemployment rate stayed unchanged at 3.6%."

    Job growth held steady in April as payrolls rose by 428000
    CBS News - Sat, May 7, 2022
    -- https://www.cbsnews.com/news/april-job-report-428000-jobs/


    DIRECT QUOTE from CBS News. We believe CBS News over you, loser.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to bruce bowser on Mon May 9 12:58:24 2022
    On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 3:18:00 AM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
    On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 12:51:26 AM UTC-4, TomS wrote:
    On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 10:25:34 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
    Economy Adds 428,000 Jobs In April Even As COVID Cases Edge Higher, Unemployment Is Unchanged At 3.6%
    USA Today Newspaper - May 6, 2022
    -- https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2022/05/06/april-job-report-employers-covid/9664564002/

    No, they ARE NO new jobs ...

    You're lyin' again, Tom.
    ==========================
    CBS News
    "Employers added 428,000 new jobs in April, on par with growth in March.
    The unemployment rate stayed unchanged at 3.6%."

    Job growth held steady in April as payrolls rose by 428000
    CBS News - Sat, May 7, 2022
    -- https://www.cbsnews.com/news/april-job-report-428000-jobs/

    DIRECT QUOTE from CBS News. We believe CBS News over you, loser.

    Tommy's just trying to play semantics with the terminology to dodge the reality.

    For example, all the jobs added during the Trump administration (at least up until April 2020 when CoVid smashed them) can also be argued to be due to worker turnover/return to work/etc too....

    And speaking of which, here's the monthly labor participation rates for Trump up until the onset of CoVid:

    1/1/2017 81.4
    2/1/2017 81.7
    3/1/2017 81.8
    4/1/2017 81.7
    5/1/2017 81.7
    6/1/2017 81.4
    7/1/2017 81.5
    8/1/2017 81.5
    9/1/2017 82
    10/1/2017 81.8
    11/1/2017 82
    12/1/2017 81.8
    1/1/2018 81.7
    2/1/2018 82.2
    3/1/2018 82.2
    4/1/2018 82
    5/1/2018 81.9
    6/1/2018 81.8
    7/1/2018 81.8
    8/1/2018 81.8
    9/1/2018 82
    10/1/2018 82.5
    11/1/2018 82.4
    12/1/2018 82.3
    1/1/2019 82.4
    2/1/2019 82.6
    3/1/2019 82.6
    4/1/2019 82.3
    5/1/2019 82.1
    6/1/2019 82
    7/1/2019 81.7
    8/1/2019 82.4
    9/1/2019 82.8
    10/1/2019 83.1
    11/1/2019 83.1
    12/1/2019 83
    1/1/2020 83
    2/1/2020 83.1
    3/1/2020 82.7
    4/1/2020 79.9
    5/1/2020 80.5
    6/1/2020 81.2
    7/1/2020 80.9
    8/1/2020 81.2
    9/1/2020 81
    10/1/2020 81.5
    11/1/2020 81.1
    12/1/2020 81.1
    1/1/2021 81.1
    2/1/2021 81.3
    3/1/2021 81.6

    Anyone want to venture a guess what they average to?
    The answer is 82.1%, which is a full percentage point below
    the period's max of 83.1%.

    Continuing, the numbers since the onset of CoVid:

    4/1/2020 79.9
    5/1/2020 80.5
    6/1/2020 81.2
    7/1/2020 80.9
    8/1/2020 81.2
    9/1/2020 81
    10/1/2020 81.5
    11/1/2020 81.1
    12/1/2020 81.1
    1/1/2021 81.1
    2/1/2021 81.3
    3/1/2021 81.6
    4/1/2021 81.4
    5/1/2021 81.3
    6/1/2021 81.4
    7/1/2021 81.5
    8/1/2021 81.6
    9/1/2021 81.7
    10/1/2021 81.9
    11/1/2021 82.1
    12/1/2021 82
    1/1/2022 82
    2/1/2022 82.3
    3/1/2022 82.7
    4/1/2022 82.5

    Trump's average was lowered by CoVid to 81.9%; Biden's average to
    date is 81.8% .. but with four of the past six months posting rates
    equal to or higher than Trump's pre-CoVid term average, suggests
    by linear extrapolation that the Trump peak could be overtaken by
    the end of 2022.

    <https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNU01300060>


    -hh

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  • From bruce bowser@21:1/5 to -hh on Mon May 9 23:36:57 2022
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 3:58:26 PM UTC-4, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 3:18:00 AM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
    On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 12:51:26 AM UTC-4, TomS wrote:
    On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 10:25:34 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
    Economy Adds 428,000 Jobs In April Even As COVID Cases Edge Higher, Unemployment Is Unchanged At 3.6%
    USA Today Newspaper - May 6, 2022
    -- https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2022/05/06/april-job-report-employers-covid/9664564002/

    No, they ARE NO new jobs ...

    You're lyin' again, Tom.
    ==========================
    CBS News
    "Employers added 428,000 new jobs in April, on par with growth in March. The unemployment rate stayed unchanged at 3.6%."

    Job growth held steady in April as payrolls rose by 428000
    CBS News - Sat, May 7, 2022
    -- https://www.cbsnews.com/news/april-job-report-428000-jobs/

    DIRECT QUOTE from CBS News. We believe CBS News over you, loser.
    Tommy's just trying to play semantics with the terminology to dodge the reality.

    For example, all the jobs added during the Trump administration (at least up until April 2020 when CoVid smashed them) can also be argued to be due to worker turnover/return to work/etc too....

    And speaking of which, here's the monthly labor participation rates for Trump up until the onset of CoVid:

    1/1/2017 81.4
    2/1/2017 81.7
    3/1/2017 81.8
    4/1/2017 81.7
    5/1/2017 81.7
    6/1/2017 81.4
    7/1/2017 81.5
    8/1/2017 81.5
    9/1/2017 82
    10/1/2017 81.8
    11/1/2017 82
    12/1/2017 81.8
    1/1/2018 81.7
    2/1/2018 82.2
    3/1/2018 82.2
    4/1/2018 82
    5/1/2018 81.9
    6/1/2018 81.8
    7/1/2018 81.8
    8/1/2018 81.8
    9/1/2018 82
    10/1/2018 82.5
    11/1/2018 82.4
    12/1/2018 82.3
    1/1/2019 82.4
    2/1/2019 82.6
    3/1/2019 82.6
    4/1/2019 82.3
    5/1/2019 82.1
    6/1/2019 82
    7/1/2019 81.7
    8/1/2019 82.4
    9/1/2019 82.8
    10/1/2019 83.1
    11/1/2019 83.1
    12/1/2019 83
    1/1/2020 83
    2/1/2020 83.1
    3/1/2020 82.7
    4/1/2020 79.9
    5/1/2020 80.5
    6/1/2020 81.2
    7/1/2020 80.9
    8/1/2020 81.2
    9/1/2020 81
    10/1/2020 81.5
    11/1/2020 81.1
    12/1/2020 81.1
    1/1/2021 81.1
    2/1/2021 81.3
    3/1/2021 81.6

    Anyone want to venture a guess what they average to?
    The answer is 82.1%, which is a full percentage point below
    the period's max of 83.1%.

    Continuing, the numbers since the onset of CoVid:

    4/1/2020 79.9
    5/1/2020 80.5
    6/1/2020 81.2
    7/1/2020 80.9
    8/1/2020 81.2
    9/1/2020 81
    10/1/2020 81.5
    11/1/2020 81.1
    12/1/2020 81.1
    1/1/2021 81.1
    2/1/2021 81.3
    3/1/2021 81.6
    4/1/2021 81.4
    5/1/2021 81.3
    6/1/2021 81.4
    7/1/2021 81.5
    8/1/2021 81.6
    9/1/2021 81.7
    10/1/2021 81.9
    11/1/2021 82.1
    12/1/2021 82
    1/1/2022 82
    2/1/2022 82.3
    3/1/2022 82.7
    4/1/2022 82.5

    Trump's average was lowered by CoVid to 81.9%; Biden's average to
    date is 81.8% .. but with four of the past six months posting rates
    equal to or higher than Trump's pre-CoVid term average, suggests
    by linear extrapolation that the Trump peak could be overtaken by
    the end of 2022.

    <https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNU01300060>


    -hh

    Tom is now silent. That's strange.

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  • From TomS@21:1/5 to bruce bowser on Wed May 11 21:14:11 2022
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 11:36:59 PM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 3:58:26 PM UTC-4, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 3:18:00 AM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
    On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 12:51:26 AM UTC-4, TomS wrote:
    On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 10:25:34 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
    Economy Adds 428,000 Jobs In April Even As COVID Cases Edge Higher, Unemployment Is Unchanged At 3.6%
    USA Today Newspaper - May 6, 2022
    -- https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2022/05/06/april-job-report-employers-covid/9664564002/

    No, they ARE NO new jobs ...

    You're lyin' again, Tom.
    ==========================
    CBS News
    "Employers added 428,000 new jobs in April, on par with growth in March. The unemployment rate stayed unchanged at 3.6%."

    Job growth held steady in April as payrolls rose by 428000
    CBS News - Sat, May 7, 2022
    -- https://www.cbsnews.com/news/april-job-report-428000-jobs/

    DIRECT QUOTE from CBS News. We believe CBS News over you, loser.
    Tommy's just trying to play semantics with the terminology to dodge the reality.

    For example, all the jobs added during the Trump administration (at least up
    until April 2020 when CoVid smashed them) can also be argued to be due to worker turnover/return to work/etc too....

    And speaking of which, here's the monthly labor participation rates for Trump
    up until the onset of CoVid:

    1/1/2017 81.4
    2/1/2017 81.7
    3/1/2017 81.8
    4/1/2017 81.7
    5/1/2017 81.7
    6/1/2017 81.4
    7/1/2017 81.5
    8/1/2017 81.5
    9/1/2017 82
    10/1/2017 81.8
    11/1/2017 82
    12/1/2017 81.8
    1/1/2018 81.7
    2/1/2018 82.2
    3/1/2018 82.2
    4/1/2018 82
    5/1/2018 81.9
    6/1/2018 81.8
    7/1/2018 81.8
    8/1/2018 81.8
    9/1/2018 82
    10/1/2018 82.5
    11/1/2018 82.4
    12/1/2018 82.3
    1/1/2019 82.4
    2/1/2019 82.6
    3/1/2019 82.6
    4/1/2019 82.3
    5/1/2019 82.1
    6/1/2019 82
    7/1/2019 81.7
    8/1/2019 82.4
    9/1/2019 82.8
    10/1/2019 83.1
    11/1/2019 83.1
    12/1/2019 83
    1/1/2020 83
    2/1/2020 83.1
    3/1/2020 82.7
    4/1/2020 79.9
    5/1/2020 80.5
    6/1/2020 81.2
    7/1/2020 80.9
    8/1/2020 81.2
    9/1/2020 81
    10/1/2020 81.5
    11/1/2020 81.1
    12/1/2020 81.1
    1/1/2021 81.1
    2/1/2021 81.3
    3/1/2021 81.6

    Anyone want to venture a guess what they average to?
    The answer is 82.1%, which is a full percentage point below
    the period's max of 83.1%.

    Continuing, the numbers since the onset of CoVid:

    4/1/2020 79.9
    5/1/2020 80.5
    6/1/2020 81.2
    7/1/2020 80.9
    8/1/2020 81.2
    9/1/2020 81
    10/1/2020 81.5
    11/1/2020 81.1
    12/1/2020 81.1
    1/1/2021 81.1
    2/1/2021 81.3
    3/1/2021 81.6
    4/1/2021 81.4
    5/1/2021 81.3
    6/1/2021 81.4
    7/1/2021 81.5
    8/1/2021 81.6
    9/1/2021 81.7
    10/1/2021 81.9
    11/1/2021 82.1
    12/1/2021 82
    1/1/2022 82
    2/1/2022 82.3
    3/1/2022 82.7
    4/1/2022 82.5

    Trump's average was lowered by CoVid to 81.9%; Biden's average to
    date is 81.8% .. but with four of the past six months posting rates
    equal to or higher than Trump's pre-CoVid term average, suggests
    by linear extrapolation that the Trump peak could be overtaken by
    the end of 2022.

    <https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNU01300060>


    -hh
    Tom is now silent. That's strange.

    Nothing has changed: there are NO NEW JOBS - it is all people returning to work that were unemployed. The labor participation rate is STILL below pre-COVID levels.

    The bottom line: you libtards are DESPERATE to find some, any, good news for Lyin' Biden. I understand that - what else can you do? Freedom Day is now just 180 days away.

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  • From TomS@21:1/5 to TomS on Wed May 11 21:16:36 2022
    On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 9:14:12 PM UTC-7, TomS wrote:
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 11:36:59 PM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 3:58:26 PM UTC-4, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 3:18:00 AM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
    On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 12:51:26 AM UTC-4, TomS wrote:
    On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 10:25:34 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
    Economy Adds 428,000 Jobs In April Even As COVID Cases Edge Higher, Unemployment Is Unchanged At 3.6%
    USA Today Newspaper - May 6, 2022
    -- https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2022/05/06/april-job-report-employers-covid/9664564002/

    No, they ARE NO new jobs ...

    You're lyin' again, Tom.
    ==========================
    CBS News
    "Employers added 428,000 new jobs in April, on par with growth in March.
    The unemployment rate stayed unchanged at 3.6%."

    Job growth held steady in April as payrolls rose by 428000
    CBS News - Sat, May 7, 2022
    -- https://www.cbsnews.com/news/april-job-report-428000-jobs/

    DIRECT QUOTE from CBS News. We believe CBS News over you, loser.
    Tommy's just trying to play semantics with the terminology to dodge the reality.

    For example, all the jobs added during the Trump administration (at least up
    until April 2020 when CoVid smashed them) can also be argued to be due to worker turnover/return to work/etc too....

    And speaking of which, here's the monthly labor participation rates for Trump
    up until the onset of CoVid:

    1/1/2017 81.4
    2/1/2017 81.7
    3/1/2017 81.8
    4/1/2017 81.7
    5/1/2017 81.7
    6/1/2017 81.4
    7/1/2017 81.5
    8/1/2017 81.5
    9/1/2017 82
    10/1/2017 81.8
    11/1/2017 82
    12/1/2017 81.8
    1/1/2018 81.7
    2/1/2018 82.2
    3/1/2018 82.2
    4/1/2018 82
    5/1/2018 81.9
    6/1/2018 81.8
    7/1/2018 81.8
    8/1/2018 81.8
    9/1/2018 82
    10/1/2018 82.5
    11/1/2018 82.4
    12/1/2018 82.3
    1/1/2019 82.4
    2/1/2019 82.6
    3/1/2019 82.6
    4/1/2019 82.3
    5/1/2019 82.1
    6/1/2019 82
    7/1/2019 81.7
    8/1/2019 82.4
    9/1/2019 82.8
    10/1/2019 83.1
    11/1/2019 83.1
    12/1/2019 83
    1/1/2020 83
    2/1/2020 83.1
    3/1/2020 82.7
    4/1/2020 79.9
    5/1/2020 80.5
    6/1/2020 81.2
    7/1/2020 80.9
    8/1/2020 81.2
    9/1/2020 81
    10/1/2020 81.5
    11/1/2020 81.1
    12/1/2020 81.1
    1/1/2021 81.1
    2/1/2021 81.3
    3/1/2021 81.6

    Anyone want to venture a guess what they average to?
    The answer is 82.1%, which is a full percentage point below
    the period's max of 83.1%.

    Continuing, the numbers since the onset of CoVid:

    4/1/2020 79.9
    5/1/2020 80.5
    6/1/2020 81.2
    7/1/2020 80.9
    8/1/2020 81.2
    9/1/2020 81
    10/1/2020 81.5
    11/1/2020 81.1
    12/1/2020 81.1
    1/1/2021 81.1
    2/1/2021 81.3
    3/1/2021 81.6
    4/1/2021 81.4
    5/1/2021 81.3
    6/1/2021 81.4
    7/1/2021 81.5
    8/1/2021 81.6
    9/1/2021 81.7
    10/1/2021 81.9
    11/1/2021 82.1
    12/1/2021 82
    1/1/2022 82
    2/1/2022 82.3
    3/1/2022 82.7
    4/1/2022 82.5

    Trump's average was lowered by CoVid to 81.9%; Biden's average to
    date is 81.8% .. but with four of the past six months posting rates
    equal to or higher than Trump's pre-CoVid term average, suggests
    by linear extrapolation that the Trump peak could be overtaken by
    the end of 2022.

    <https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNU01300060>


    -hh
    Tom is now silent. That's strange.
    Nothing has changed: there are NO NEW JOBS - it is all people returning to work that were unemployed. The labor participation rate is STILL below pre-COVID levels.

    The bottom line: you libtards are DESPERATE to find some, any, good news for Lyin' Biden. I understand that - what else can you do? Freedom Day is now just 180 days away.

    Just in case you brain-dead libtards in incapable of locating this, here is the fucking data, assholes:
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CIVPART

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to TomS on Wed May 11 21:42:52 2022
    On 2022-05-11 9:14 p.m., TomS wrote:
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 11:36:59 PM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 3:58:26 PM UTC-4, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 3:18:00 AM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
    On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 12:51:26 AM UTC-4, TomS wrote:
    On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 10:25:34 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
    Economy Adds 428,000 Jobs In April Even As COVID Cases Edge Higher, Unemployment Is Unchanged At 3.6%
    USA Today Newspaper - May 6, 2022
    -- https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2022/05/06/april-job-report-employers-covid/9664564002/

    No, they ARE NO new jobs ...

    You're lyin' again, Tom.
    ==========================
    CBS News
    "Employers added 428,000 new jobs in April, on par with growth in March. >>>> The unemployment rate stayed unchanged at 3.6%."

    Job growth held steady in April as payrolls rose by 428000
    CBS News - Sat, May 7, 2022
    -- https://www.cbsnews.com/news/april-job-report-428000-jobs/

    DIRECT QUOTE from CBS News. We believe CBS News over you, loser.
    Tommy's just trying to play semantics with the terminology to dodge the reality.

    For example, all the jobs added during the Trump administration (at least up
    until April 2020 when CoVid smashed them) can also be argued to be due to >>> worker turnover/return to work/etc too....

    And speaking of which, here's the monthly labor participation rates for Trump
    up until the onset of CoVid:

    1/1/2017 81.4
    2/1/2017 81.7
    3/1/2017 81.8
    4/1/2017 81.7
    5/1/2017 81.7
    6/1/2017 81.4
    7/1/2017 81.5
    8/1/2017 81.5
    9/1/2017 82
    10/1/2017 81.8
    11/1/2017 82
    12/1/2017 81.8
    1/1/2018 81.7
    2/1/2018 82.2
    3/1/2018 82.2
    4/1/2018 82
    5/1/2018 81.9
    6/1/2018 81.8
    7/1/2018 81.8
    8/1/2018 81.8
    9/1/2018 82
    10/1/2018 82.5
    11/1/2018 82.4
    12/1/2018 82.3
    1/1/2019 82.4
    2/1/2019 82.6
    3/1/2019 82.6
    4/1/2019 82.3
    5/1/2019 82.1
    6/1/2019 82
    7/1/2019 81.7
    8/1/2019 82.4
    9/1/2019 82.8
    10/1/2019 83.1
    11/1/2019 83.1
    12/1/2019 83
    1/1/2020 83
    2/1/2020 83.1
    3/1/2020 82.7
    4/1/2020 79.9
    5/1/2020 80.5
    6/1/2020 81.2
    7/1/2020 80.9
    8/1/2020 81.2
    9/1/2020 81
    10/1/2020 81.5
    11/1/2020 81.1
    12/1/2020 81.1
    1/1/2021 81.1
    2/1/2021 81.3
    3/1/2021 81.6

    Anyone want to venture a guess what they average to?
    The answer is 82.1%, which is a full percentage point below
    the period's max of 83.1%.

    Continuing, the numbers since the onset of CoVid:

    4/1/2020 79.9
    5/1/2020 80.5
    6/1/2020 81.2
    7/1/2020 80.9
    8/1/2020 81.2
    9/1/2020 81
    10/1/2020 81.5
    11/1/2020 81.1
    12/1/2020 81.1
    1/1/2021 81.1
    2/1/2021 81.3
    3/1/2021 81.6
    4/1/2021 81.4
    5/1/2021 81.3
    6/1/2021 81.4
    7/1/2021 81.5
    8/1/2021 81.6
    9/1/2021 81.7
    10/1/2021 81.9
    11/1/2021 82.1
    12/1/2021 82
    1/1/2022 82
    2/1/2022 82.3
    3/1/2022 82.7
    4/1/2022 82.5

    Trump's average was lowered by CoVid to 81.9%; Biden's average to
    date is 81.8% .. but with four of the past six months posting rates
    equal to or higher than Trump's pre-CoVid term average, suggests
    by linear extrapolation that the Trump peak could be overtaken by
    the end of 2022.

    <https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNU01300060>


    -hh
    Tom is now silent. That's strange.

    Nothing has changed: there are NO NEW JOBS - it is all people returning to work that were unemployed. The labor participation rate is STILL below pre-COVID levels.

    The bottom line: you libtards are DESPERATE to find some, any, good news for Lyin' Biden. I understand that - what else can you do? Freedom Day is now just 180 days away.

    So then there were no new jobs under Trump, do you agree?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu May 12 04:35:34 2022
    On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 12:42:55 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-11 9:14 p.m., TomS wrote:
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 11:36:59 PM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 3:58:26 PM UTC-4, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 3:18:00 AM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
    On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 12:51:26 AM UTC-4, TomS wrote:
    On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 10:25:34 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
    Economy Adds 428,000 Jobs In April Even As COVID Cases Edge Higher, Unemployment Is Unchanged At 3.6%
    USA Today Newspaper - May 6, 2022
    -- https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2022/05/06/april-job-report-employers-covid/9664564002/

    No, they ARE NO new jobs ...

    You're lyin' again, Tom.
    ==========================
    CBS News
    "Employers added 428,000 new jobs in April, on par with growth in March. >>>> The unemployment rate stayed unchanged at 3.6%."

    Job growth held steady in April as payrolls rose by 428000
    CBS News - Sat, May 7, 2022
    -- https://www.cbsnews.com/news/april-job-report-428000-jobs/

    DIRECT QUOTE from CBS News. We believe CBS News over you, loser.
    Tommy's just trying to play semantics with the terminology to dodge the reality.

    For example, all the jobs added during the Trump administration (at least up
    until April 2020 when CoVid smashed them) can also be argued to be due to >>> worker turnover/return to work/etc too....

    And speaking of which, here's the monthly labor participation rates for Trump
    up until the onset of CoVid:

    1/1/2017 81.4
    2/1/2017 81.7
    3/1/2017 81.8
    4/1/2017 81.7
    5/1/2017 81.7
    6/1/2017 81.4
    7/1/2017 81.5
    8/1/2017 81.5
    9/1/2017 82
    10/1/2017 81.8
    11/1/2017 82
    12/1/2017 81.8
    1/1/2018 81.7
    2/1/2018 82.2
    3/1/2018 82.2
    4/1/2018 82
    5/1/2018 81.9
    6/1/2018 81.8
    7/1/2018 81.8
    8/1/2018 81.8
    9/1/2018 82
    10/1/2018 82.5
    11/1/2018 82.4
    12/1/2018 82.3
    1/1/2019 82.4
    2/1/2019 82.6
    3/1/2019 82.6
    4/1/2019 82.3
    5/1/2019 82.1
    6/1/2019 82
    7/1/2019 81.7
    8/1/2019 82.4
    9/1/2019 82.8
    10/1/2019 83.1
    11/1/2019 83.1
    12/1/2019 83
    1/1/2020 83
    2/1/2020 83.1
    3/1/2020 82.7
    4/1/2020 79.9
    5/1/2020 80.5
    6/1/2020 81.2
    7/1/2020 80.9
    8/1/2020 81.2
    9/1/2020 81
    10/1/2020 81.5
    11/1/2020 81.1
    12/1/2020 81.1
    1/1/2021 81.1
    2/1/2021 81.3
    3/1/2021 81.6

    Anyone want to venture a guess what they average to?
    The answer is 82.1%, which is a full percentage point below
    the period's max of 83.1%.

    Continuing, the numbers since the onset of CoVid:

    4/1/2020 79.9
    5/1/2020 80.5
    6/1/2020 81.2
    7/1/2020 80.9
    8/1/2020 81.2
    9/1/2020 81
    10/1/2020 81.5
    11/1/2020 81.1
    12/1/2020 81.1
    1/1/2021 81.1
    2/1/2021 81.3
    3/1/2021 81.6
    4/1/2021 81.4
    5/1/2021 81.3
    6/1/2021 81.4
    7/1/2021 81.5
    8/1/2021 81.6
    9/1/2021 81.7
    10/1/2021 81.9
    11/1/2021 82.1
    12/1/2021 82
    1/1/2022 82
    2/1/2022 82.3
    3/1/2022 82.7
    4/1/2022 82.5

    Trump's average was lowered by CoVid to 81.9%; Biden's average to
    date is 81.8% .. but with four of the past six months posting rates
    equal to or higher than Trump's pre-CoVid term average, suggests
    by linear extrapolation that the Trump peak could be overtaken by
    the end of 2022.

    <https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNU01300060>


    -hh
    Tom is now silent. That's strange.

    Nothing has changed: there are NO NEW JOBS - it is all people
    returning to work that were unemployed. The labor participation
    rate is STILL below pre-COVID levels.

    Trump's high water mark for labor force participation rate was 63.4%,
    which was ~3 points lower than what its peak under a Democratic
    administration. Overall, LFP is more indicative of the economy's
    structure and policies which help accommodate half the workforce
    population ... ie, women .. to be actually able to participate. From
    strictly an economic view on policy, the prospects of a SCOTUS
    decision to reverse Roe v Wade structurally makes the prospects
    of LFP increasing harder, not easier, which will be a constant drag
    on GDP and GDP growth for the foreseeable future.

    FYI, this isn't just me blowing smoke, Tommy: it is backed up:

    <https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2022/05/10/overturning-roe-v-wade-would-have-very-damaging-economic-effects-treasury-secretary-warns-heres-how/>

    TL;DR is that its a -0.5%/year GDP suppression...and note that because
    this is per year, it compounds: after just ten years, its -5%, or roughly
    1-2 years worth of GDP growth.


    The bottom line: you libtards are DESPERATE to find some, any,
    good news for Lyin' Biden. I understand that - what else can you
    do? Freedom Day is now just 180 days away.

    So then there were no new jobs under Trump, do you agree?

    By Tommy's logic, there couldn't have been any new jobs under Trump:
    every last one of them were "old" jobs finally returning to the market
    after the 2008 recession. /s


    -hh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bruce bowser@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu May 12 14:09:33 2022
    On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 12:42:55 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-11 9:14 p.m., TomS wrote:
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 11:36:59 PM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 3:58:26 PM UTC-4, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 3:18:00 AM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
    On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 12:51:26 AM UTC-4, TomS wrote:
    On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 10:25:34 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
    Economy Adds 428,000 Jobs In April Even As COVID Cases Edge Higher, Unemployment Is Unchanged At 3.6%
    USA Today Newspaper - May 6, 2022
    -- https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2022/05/06/april-job-report-employers-covid/9664564002/

    No, they ARE NO new jobs ...

    You're lyin' again, Tom.
    ==========================
    CBS News
    "Employers added 428,000 new jobs in April, on par with growth in March. >>>> The unemployment rate stayed unchanged at 3.6%."

    Job growth held steady in April as payrolls rose by 428000
    CBS News - Sat, May 7, 2022
    -- https://www.cbsnews.com/news/april-job-report-428000-jobs/

    DIRECT QUOTE from CBS News. We believe CBS News over you, loser.
    Tommy's just trying to play semantics with the terminology to dodge the reality.

    For example, all the jobs added during the Trump administration (at least up
    until April 2020 when CoVid smashed them) can also be argued to be due to >>> worker turnover/return to work/etc too....

    And speaking of which, here's the monthly labor participation rates for Trump
    up until the onset of CoVid:

    1/1/2017 81.4
    2/1/2017 81.7
    3/1/2017 81.8
    4/1/2017 81.7
    5/1/2017 81.7
    6/1/2017 81.4
    7/1/2017 81.5
    8/1/2017 81.5
    9/1/2017 82
    10/1/2017 81.8
    11/1/2017 82
    12/1/2017 81.8
    1/1/2018 81.7
    2/1/2018 82.2
    3/1/2018 82.2
    4/1/2018 82
    5/1/2018 81.9
    6/1/2018 81.8
    7/1/2018 81.8
    8/1/2018 81.8
    9/1/2018 82
    10/1/2018 82.5
    11/1/2018 82.4
    12/1/2018 82.3
    1/1/2019 82.4
    2/1/2019 82.6
    3/1/2019 82.6
    4/1/2019 82.3
    5/1/2019 82.1
    6/1/2019 82
    7/1/2019 81.7
    8/1/2019 82.4
    9/1/2019 82.8
    10/1/2019 83.1
    11/1/2019 83.1
    12/1/2019 83
    1/1/2020 83
    2/1/2020 83.1
    3/1/2020 82.7
    4/1/2020 79.9
    5/1/2020 80.5
    6/1/2020 81.2
    7/1/2020 80.9
    8/1/2020 81.2
    9/1/2020 81
    10/1/2020 81.5
    11/1/2020 81.1
    12/1/2020 81.1
    1/1/2021 81.1
    2/1/2021 81.3
    3/1/2021 81.6

    Anyone want to venture a guess what they average to?
    The answer is 82.1%, which is a full percentage point below
    the period's max of 83.1%.

    Continuing, the numbers since the onset of CoVid:

    4/1/2020 79.9
    5/1/2020 80.5
    6/1/2020 81.2
    7/1/2020 80.9
    8/1/2020 81.2
    9/1/2020 81
    10/1/2020 81.5
    11/1/2020 81.1
    12/1/2020 81.1
    1/1/2021 81.1
    2/1/2021 81.3
    3/1/2021 81.6
    4/1/2021 81.4
    5/1/2021 81.3
    6/1/2021 81.4
    7/1/2021 81.5
    8/1/2021 81.6
    9/1/2021 81.7
    10/1/2021 81.9
    11/1/2021 82.1
    12/1/2021 82
    1/1/2022 82
    2/1/2022 82.3
    3/1/2022 82.7
    4/1/2022 82.5

    Trump's average was lowered by CoVid to 81.9%; Biden's average to
    date is 81.8% .. but with four of the past six months posting rates
    equal to or higher than Trump's pre-CoVid term average, suggests
    by linear extrapolation that the Trump peak could be overtaken by
    the end of 2022.

    <https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNU01300060>


    -hh
    Tom is now silent. That's strange.

    Nothing has changed: there are NO NEW JOBS - it is all people returning to work that were unemployed. The labor participation rate is STILL below pre-COVID levels.

    The bottom line: you libtards are DESPERATE to find some, any, good news for Lyin' Biden. I understand that - what else can you do? Freedom Day is now just 180 days away.
    So then there were no new jobs under Trump, do you agree?

    The News says what goes. Not your "agreement".

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From TomS@21:1/5 to -hh on Thu May 12 14:55:01 2022
    On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 4:35:36 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 12:42:55 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-11 9:14 p.m., TomS wrote:
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 11:36:59 PM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 3:58:26 PM UTC-4, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 3:18:00 AM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
    On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 12:51:26 AM UTC-4, TomS wrote:
    On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 10:25:34 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote: >>>>>> Economy Adds 428,000 Jobs In April Even As COVID Cases Edge Higher, Unemployment Is Unchanged At 3.6%
    USA Today Newspaper - May 6, 2022
    -- https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2022/05/06/april-job-report-employers-covid/9664564002/

    No, they ARE NO new jobs ...

    You're lyin' again, Tom.
    ==========================
    CBS News
    "Employers added 428,000 new jobs in April, on par with growth in March.
    The unemployment rate stayed unchanged at 3.6%."

    Job growth held steady in April as payrolls rose by 428000
    CBS News - Sat, May 7, 2022
    -- https://www.cbsnews.com/news/april-job-report-428000-jobs/

    DIRECT QUOTE from CBS News. We believe CBS News over you, loser.
    Tommy's just trying to play semantics with the terminology to dodge the reality.

    For example, all the jobs added during the Trump administration (at least up
    until April 2020 when CoVid smashed them) can also be argued to be due to
    worker turnover/return to work/etc too....

    And speaking of which, here's the monthly labor participation rates for Trump
    up until the onset of CoVid:

    1/1/2017 81.4
    2/1/2017 81.7
    3/1/2017 81.8
    4/1/2017 81.7
    5/1/2017 81.7
    6/1/2017 81.4
    7/1/2017 81.5
    8/1/2017 81.5
    9/1/2017 82
    10/1/2017 81.8
    11/1/2017 82
    12/1/2017 81.8
    1/1/2018 81.7
    2/1/2018 82.2
    3/1/2018 82.2
    4/1/2018 82
    5/1/2018 81.9
    6/1/2018 81.8
    7/1/2018 81.8
    8/1/2018 81.8
    9/1/2018 82
    10/1/2018 82.5
    11/1/2018 82.4
    12/1/2018 82.3
    1/1/2019 82.4
    2/1/2019 82.6
    3/1/2019 82.6
    4/1/2019 82.3
    5/1/2019 82.1
    6/1/2019 82
    7/1/2019 81.7
    8/1/2019 82.4
    9/1/2019 82.8
    10/1/2019 83.1
    11/1/2019 83.1
    12/1/2019 83
    1/1/2020 83
    2/1/2020 83.1
    3/1/2020 82.7
    4/1/2020 79.9
    5/1/2020 80.5
    6/1/2020 81.2
    7/1/2020 80.9
    8/1/2020 81.2
    9/1/2020 81
    10/1/2020 81.5
    11/1/2020 81.1
    12/1/2020 81.1
    1/1/2021 81.1
    2/1/2021 81.3
    3/1/2021 81.6

    Anyone want to venture a guess what they average to?
    The answer is 82.1%, which is a full percentage point below
    the period's max of 83.1%.

    Continuing, the numbers since the onset of CoVid:

    4/1/2020 79.9
    5/1/2020 80.5
    6/1/2020 81.2
    7/1/2020 80.9
    8/1/2020 81.2
    9/1/2020 81
    10/1/2020 81.5
    11/1/2020 81.1
    12/1/2020 81.1
    1/1/2021 81.1
    2/1/2021 81.3
    3/1/2021 81.6
    4/1/2021 81.4
    5/1/2021 81.3
    6/1/2021 81.4
    7/1/2021 81.5
    8/1/2021 81.6
    9/1/2021 81.7
    10/1/2021 81.9
    11/1/2021 82.1
    12/1/2021 82
    1/1/2022 82
    2/1/2022 82.3
    3/1/2022 82.7
    4/1/2022 82.5

    Trump's average was lowered by CoVid to 81.9%; Biden's average to
    date is 81.8% .. but with four of the past six months posting rates >>> equal to or higher than Trump's pre-CoVid term average, suggests
    by linear extrapolation that the Trump peak could be overtaken by
    the end of 2022.

    <https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNU01300060>


    -hh
    Tom is now silent. That's strange.

    Nothing has changed: there are NO NEW JOBS - it is all people
    returning to work that were unemployed. The labor participation
    rate is STILL below pre-COVID levels.
    Trump's high water mark for labor force participation rate was 63.4%,
    which was ~3 points lower than what its peak under a Democratic administration. Overall, LFP is more indicative of the economy's
    structure and policies which help accommodate half the workforce
    population ... ie, women .. to be actually able to participate. From strictly an economic view on policy, the prospects of a SCOTUS
    decision to reverse Roe v Wade structurally makes the prospects
    of LFP increasing harder, not easier, which will be a constant drag
    on GDP and GDP growth for the foreseeable future.

    FYI, this isn't just me blowing smoke, Tommy: it is backed up:

    <https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2022/05/10/overturning-roe-v-wade-would-have-very-damaging-economic-effects-treasury-secretary-warns-heres-how/>

    TL;DR is that its a -0.5%/year GDP suppression...and note that because
    this is per year, it compounds: after just ten years, its -5%, or roughly 1-2 years worth of GDP growth.

    The bottom line: you libtards are DESPERATE to find some, any,
    good news for Lyin' Biden. I understand that - what else can you
    do? Freedom Day is now just 180 days away.

    So then there were no new jobs under Trump, do you agree?
    By Tommy's logic, there couldn't have been any new jobs under Trump:
    every last one of them were "old" jobs finally returning to the market
    after the 2008 recession. /s


    -hh

    I am truly TOUCHED by you libtard's interest in President Trump's economic performance, when we had record low unemployment, tax rates and inflation. But we are talking about Lyin' Biden in this thread, not Trump, and Lyin' Biden hasn't created a single,
    new job - it is ALL people returning to work. And, on top of that, it looks like we are headed right into the teeth of a recession, where companies will be laying people off.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to TomS on Thu May 12 14:56:36 2022
    On 2022-05-12 2:55 p.m., TomS wrote:
    On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 4:35:36 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 12:42:55 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-11 9:14 p.m., TomS wrote:
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 11:36:59 PM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 3:58:26 PM UTC-4, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 3:18:00 AM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
    On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 12:51:26 AM UTC-4, TomS wrote:
    On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 10:25:34 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote: >>>>>>>>> Economy Adds 428,000 Jobs In April Even As COVID Cases Edge Higher, Unemployment Is Unchanged At 3.6%
    USA Today Newspaper - May 6, 2022
    -- https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2022/05/06/april-job-report-employers-covid/9664564002/

    No, they ARE NO new jobs ...

    You're lyin' again, Tom.
    ==========================
    CBS News
    "Employers added 428,000 new jobs in April, on par with growth in March.
    The unemployment rate stayed unchanged at 3.6%."

    Job growth held steady in April as payrolls rose by 428000
    CBS News - Sat, May 7, 2022
    -- https://www.cbsnews.com/news/april-job-report-428000-jobs/

    DIRECT QUOTE from CBS News. We believe CBS News over you, loser.
    Tommy's just trying to play semantics with the terminology to dodge the reality.

    For example, all the jobs added during the Trump administration (at least up
    until April 2020 when CoVid smashed them) can also be argued to be due to
    worker turnover/return to work/etc too....

    And speaking of which, here's the monthly labor participation rates for Trump
    up until the onset of CoVid:

    1/1/2017 81.4
    2/1/2017 81.7
    3/1/2017 81.8
    4/1/2017 81.7
    5/1/2017 81.7
    6/1/2017 81.4
    7/1/2017 81.5
    8/1/2017 81.5
    9/1/2017 82
    10/1/2017 81.8
    11/1/2017 82
    12/1/2017 81.8
    1/1/2018 81.7
    2/1/2018 82.2
    3/1/2018 82.2
    4/1/2018 82
    5/1/2018 81.9
    6/1/2018 81.8
    7/1/2018 81.8
    8/1/2018 81.8
    9/1/2018 82
    10/1/2018 82.5
    11/1/2018 82.4
    12/1/2018 82.3
    1/1/2019 82.4
    2/1/2019 82.6
    3/1/2019 82.6
    4/1/2019 82.3
    5/1/2019 82.1
    6/1/2019 82
    7/1/2019 81.7
    8/1/2019 82.4
    9/1/2019 82.8
    10/1/2019 83.1
    11/1/2019 83.1
    12/1/2019 83
    1/1/2020 83
    2/1/2020 83.1
    3/1/2020 82.7
    4/1/2020 79.9
    5/1/2020 80.5
    6/1/2020 81.2
    7/1/2020 80.9
    8/1/2020 81.2
    9/1/2020 81
    10/1/2020 81.5
    11/1/2020 81.1
    12/1/2020 81.1
    1/1/2021 81.1
    2/1/2021 81.3
    3/1/2021 81.6

    Anyone want to venture a guess what they average to?
    The answer is 82.1%, which is a full percentage point below
    the period's max of 83.1%.

    Continuing, the numbers since the onset of CoVid:

    4/1/2020 79.9
    5/1/2020 80.5
    6/1/2020 81.2
    7/1/2020 80.9
    8/1/2020 81.2
    9/1/2020 81
    10/1/2020 81.5
    11/1/2020 81.1
    12/1/2020 81.1
    1/1/2021 81.1
    2/1/2021 81.3
    3/1/2021 81.6
    4/1/2021 81.4
    5/1/2021 81.3
    6/1/2021 81.4
    7/1/2021 81.5
    8/1/2021 81.6
    9/1/2021 81.7
    10/1/2021 81.9
    11/1/2021 82.1
    12/1/2021 82
    1/1/2022 82
    2/1/2022 82.3
    3/1/2022 82.7
    4/1/2022 82.5

    Trump's average was lowered by CoVid to 81.9%; Biden's average to
    date is 81.8% .. but with four of the past six months posting rates >>>>>> equal to or higher than Trump's pre-CoVid term average, suggests
    by linear extrapolation that the Trump peak could be overtaken by
    the end of 2022.

    <https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNU01300060>


    -hh
    Tom is now silent. That's strange.

    Nothing has changed: there are NO NEW JOBS - it is all people
    returning to work that were unemployed. The labor participation
    rate is STILL below pre-COVID levels.
    Trump's high water mark for labor force participation rate was 63.4%,
    which was ~3 points lower than what its peak under a Democratic
    administration. Overall, LFP is more indicative of the economy's
    structure and policies which help accommodate half the workforce
    population ... ie, women .. to be actually able to participate. From
    strictly an economic view on policy, the prospects of a SCOTUS
    decision to reverse Roe v Wade structurally makes the prospects
    of LFP increasing harder, not easier, which will be a constant drag
    on GDP and GDP growth for the foreseeable future.

    FYI, this isn't just me blowing smoke, Tommy: it is backed up:

    <https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2022/05/10/overturning-roe-v-wade-would-have-very-damaging-economic-effects-treasury-secretary-warns-heres-how/>

    TL;DR is that its a -0.5%/year GDP suppression...and note that because
    this is per year, it compounds: after just ten years, its -5%, or roughly
    1-2 years worth of GDP growth.

    The bottom line: you libtards are DESPERATE to find some, any,
    good news for Lyin' Biden. I understand that - what else can you
    do? Freedom Day is now just 180 days away.

    So then there were no new jobs under Trump, do you agree?
    By Tommy's logic, there couldn't have been any new jobs under Trump:
    every last one of them were "old" jobs finally returning to the market
    after the 2008 recession. /s


    -hh

    I am truly TOUCHED by you libtard's interest in President Trump's economic performance, when we had record low unemployment, tax rates and inflation. But we are talking about Lyin' Biden in this thread, not Trump, and Lyin' Biden hasn't created a
    single, new job - it is ALL people returning to work. And, on top of that, it looks like we are headed right into the teeth of a recession, where companies will be laying people off.

    And hugely more debt...

    ...which you cared about DESPERATELY when it was a Democrat responsible
    for any increase.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu May 12 18:27:47 2022
    On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 5:56:39 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-12 2:55 p.m., TomS wrote:
    On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 4:35:36 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 12:42:55 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-11 9:14 p.m., TomS wrote:
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 11:36:59 PM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 3:58:26 PM UTC-4, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 3:18:00 AM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote: >>>>>>> On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 12:51:26 AM UTC-4, TomS wrote:
    On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 10:25:34 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote: >>>>>>>>> Economy Adds 428,000 Jobs In April Even As COVID Cases Edge Higher, Unemployment Is Unchanged At 3.6%
    USA Today Newspaper - May 6, 2022
    -- https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2022/05/06/april-job-report-employers-covid/9664564002/

    No, they ARE NO new jobs ...

    You're lyin' again, Tom.
    ==========================
    CBS News
    "Employers added 428,000 new jobs in April, on par with growth in March.
    The unemployment rate stayed unchanged at 3.6%."

    Job growth held steady in April as payrolls rose by 428000
    CBS News - Sat, May 7, 2022
    -- https://www.cbsnews.com/news/april-job-report-428000-jobs/

    DIRECT QUOTE from CBS News. We believe CBS News over you, loser. >>>>>> Tommy's just trying to play semantics with the terminology to dodge the reality.

    For example, all the jobs added during the Trump administration (at least up
    until April 2020 when CoVid smashed them) can also be argued to be due to
    worker turnover/return to work/etc too....

    And speaking of which, here's the monthly labor participation rates for Trump
    up until the onset of CoVid:

    1/1/2017 81.4
    2/1/2017 81.7
    3/1/2017 81.8
    4/1/2017 81.7
    5/1/2017 81.7
    6/1/2017 81.4
    7/1/2017 81.5
    8/1/2017 81.5
    9/1/2017 82
    10/1/2017 81.8
    11/1/2017 82
    12/1/2017 81.8
    1/1/2018 81.7
    2/1/2018 82.2
    3/1/2018 82.2
    4/1/2018 82
    5/1/2018 81.9
    6/1/2018 81.8
    7/1/2018 81.8
    8/1/2018 81.8
    9/1/2018 82
    10/1/2018 82.5
    11/1/2018 82.4
    12/1/2018 82.3
    1/1/2019 82.4
    2/1/2019 82.6
    3/1/2019 82.6
    4/1/2019 82.3
    5/1/2019 82.1
    6/1/2019 82
    7/1/2019 81.7
    8/1/2019 82.4
    9/1/2019 82.8
    10/1/2019 83.1
    11/1/2019 83.1
    12/1/2019 83
    1/1/2020 83
    2/1/2020 83.1
    3/1/2020 82.7
    4/1/2020 79.9
    5/1/2020 80.5
    6/1/2020 81.2
    7/1/2020 80.9
    8/1/2020 81.2
    9/1/2020 81
    10/1/2020 81.5
    11/1/2020 81.1
    12/1/2020 81.1
    1/1/2021 81.1
    2/1/2021 81.3
    3/1/2021 81.6

    Anyone want to venture a guess what they average to?
    The answer is 82.1%, which is a full percentage point below
    the period's max of 83.1%.

    Continuing, the numbers since the onset of CoVid:

    4/1/2020 79.9
    5/1/2020 80.5
    6/1/2020 81.2
    7/1/2020 80.9
    8/1/2020 81.2
    9/1/2020 81
    10/1/2020 81.5
    11/1/2020 81.1
    12/1/2020 81.1
    1/1/2021 81.1
    2/1/2021 81.3
    3/1/2021 81.6
    4/1/2021 81.4
    5/1/2021 81.3
    6/1/2021 81.4
    7/1/2021 81.5
    8/1/2021 81.6
    9/1/2021 81.7
    10/1/2021 81.9
    11/1/2021 82.1
    12/1/2021 82
    1/1/2022 82
    2/1/2022 82.3
    3/1/2022 82.7
    4/1/2022 82.5

    Trump's average was lowered by CoVid to 81.9%; Biden's average to >>>>>> date is 81.8% .. but with four of the past six months posting rates >>>>>> equal to or higher than Trump's pre-CoVid term average, suggests >>>>>> by linear extrapolation that the Trump peak could be overtaken by >>>>>> the end of 2022.

    <https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNU01300060>


    -hh
    Tom is now silent. That's strange.

    Nothing has changed: there are NO NEW JOBS - it is all people
    returning to work that were unemployed. The labor participation
    rate is STILL below pre-COVID levels.

    Trump's high water mark for labor force participation rate was 63.4%,
    which was ~3 points lower than what its peak under a Democratic
    administration. Overall, LFP is more indicative of the economy's
    structure and policies which help accommodate half the workforce
    population ... ie, women .. to be actually able to participate. From
    strictly an economic view on policy, the prospects of a SCOTUS
    decision to reverse Roe v Wade structurally makes the prospects
    of LFP increasing harder, not easier, which will be a constant drag
    on GDP and GDP growth for the foreseeable future.

    FYI, this isn't just me blowing smoke, Tommy: it is backed up:

    <https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2022/05/10/overturning-roe-v-wade-would-have-very-damaging-economic-effects-treasury-secretary-warns-heres-how/>

    TL;DR is that its a -0.5%/year GDP suppression...and note that because
    this is per year, it compounds: after just ten years, its -5%, or roughly >> 1-2 years worth of GDP growth.

    The bottom line: you libtards are DESPERATE to find some, any,
    good news for Lyin' Biden. I understand that - what else can you
    do? Freedom Day is now just 180 days away.

    So then there were no new jobs under Trump, do you agree?
    By Tommy's logic, there couldn't have been any new jobs under Trump:
    every last one of them were "old" jobs finally returning to the market
    after the 2008 recession. /s


    -hh

    I am truly TOUCHED by you libtard's interest in President Trump's economic performance, when we had record low unemployment, tax rates and inflation.

    But not labor force participation, which was your latest goalpost move attempt.

    But we are talking about Lyin' Biden in this thread, not Trump, and Lyin' Biden
    hasn't created a single, new job - it is ALL people returning to work.

    If that were true, then there wouldn't have been the wage growth as seen in 2021.

    And, on top of that, it looks like we are headed right into the teeth of a recession,
    where companies will be laying people off.

    The US Manufacturing segment went into recession back in 2019, remember?
    Don't forget that you just claimed that Trump's economic performance was great!

    And hugely more debt...

    ...which you cared about DESPERATELY when it was a Democrat responsible
    for any increase.

    As well as trying to take claim for "lowest taxes" in the above, despite how it is
    responsible for adding $1T/year to the debt, even before CoVid.

    -hh

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  • From bruce bowser@21:1/5 to TomS on Fri May 13 15:18:12 2022
    On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 5:55:03 PM UTC-4, TomS wrote:
    On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 4:35:36 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 12:42:55 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-11 9:14 p.m., TomS wrote:
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 11:36:59 PM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 3:58:26 PM UTC-4, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 3:18:00 AM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
    On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 12:51:26 AM UTC-4, TomS wrote:
    On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 10:25:34 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote: >>>>>> Economy Adds 428,000 Jobs In April Even As COVID Cases Edge Higher, Unemployment Is Unchanged At 3.6%
    USA Today Newspaper - May 6, 2022
    -- https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2022/05/06/april-job-report-employers-covid/9664564002/

    No, they ARE NO new jobs ...

    You're lyin' again, Tom.
    ==========================
    CBS News
    "Employers added 428,000 new jobs in April, on par with growth in March.
    The unemployment rate stayed unchanged at 3.6%."

    Job growth held steady in April as payrolls rose by 428000
    CBS News - Sat, May 7, 2022
    -- https://www.cbsnews.com/news/april-job-report-428000-jobs/

    DIRECT QUOTE from CBS News. We believe CBS News over you, loser.
    Tommy's just trying to play semantics with the terminology to dodge the reality.

    For example, all the jobs added during the Trump administration (at least up
    until April 2020 when CoVid smashed them) can also be argued to be due to
    worker turnover/return to work/etc too....

    And speaking of which, here's the monthly labor participation rates for Trump
    up until the onset of CoVid:

    1/1/2017 81.4
    2/1/2017 81.7
    3/1/2017 81.8
    4/1/2017 81.7
    5/1/2017 81.7
    6/1/2017 81.4
    7/1/2017 81.5
    8/1/2017 81.5
    9/1/2017 82
    10/1/2017 81.8
    11/1/2017 82
    12/1/2017 81.8
    1/1/2018 81.7
    2/1/2018 82.2
    3/1/2018 82.2
    4/1/2018 82
    5/1/2018 81.9
    6/1/2018 81.8
    7/1/2018 81.8
    8/1/2018 81.8
    9/1/2018 82
    10/1/2018 82.5
    11/1/2018 82.4
    12/1/2018 82.3
    1/1/2019 82.4
    2/1/2019 82.6
    3/1/2019 82.6
    4/1/2019 82.3
    5/1/2019 82.1
    6/1/2019 82
    7/1/2019 81.7
    8/1/2019 82.4
    9/1/2019 82.8
    10/1/2019 83.1
    11/1/2019 83.1
    12/1/2019 83
    1/1/2020 83
    2/1/2020 83.1
    3/1/2020 82.7
    4/1/2020 79.9
    5/1/2020 80.5
    6/1/2020 81.2
    7/1/2020 80.9
    8/1/2020 81.2
    9/1/2020 81
    10/1/2020 81.5
    11/1/2020 81.1
    12/1/2020 81.1
    1/1/2021 81.1
    2/1/2021 81.3
    3/1/2021 81.6

    Anyone want to venture a guess what they average to?
    The answer is 82.1%, which is a full percentage point below
    the period's max of 83.1%.

    Continuing, the numbers since the onset of CoVid:

    4/1/2020 79.9
    5/1/2020 80.5
    6/1/2020 81.2
    7/1/2020 80.9
    8/1/2020 81.2
    9/1/2020 81
    10/1/2020 81.5
    11/1/2020 81.1
    12/1/2020 81.1
    1/1/2021 81.1
    2/1/2021 81.3
    3/1/2021 81.6
    4/1/2021 81.4
    5/1/2021 81.3
    6/1/2021 81.4
    7/1/2021 81.5
    8/1/2021 81.6
    9/1/2021 81.7
    10/1/2021 81.9
    11/1/2021 82.1
    12/1/2021 82
    1/1/2022 82
    2/1/2022 82.3
    3/1/2022 82.7
    4/1/2022 82.5

    Trump's average was lowered by CoVid to 81.9%; Biden's average to
    date is 81.8% .. but with four of the past six months posting rates >>> equal to or higher than Trump's pre-CoVid term average, suggests
    by linear extrapolation that the Trump peak could be overtaken by
    the end of 2022.

    <https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNU01300060>


    -hh
    Tom is now silent. That's strange.

    Nothing has changed: there are NO NEW JOBS - it is all people
    returning to work that were unemployed. The labor participation
    rate is STILL below pre-COVID levels.
    Trump's high water mark for labor force participation rate was 63.4%,
    which was ~3 points lower than what its peak under a Democratic administration. Overall, LFP is more indicative of the economy's
    structure and policies which help accommodate half the workforce
    population ... ie, women .. to be actually able to participate. From strictly an economic view on policy, the prospects of a SCOTUS
    decision to reverse Roe v Wade structurally makes the prospects
    of LFP increasing harder, not easier, which will be a constant drag
    on GDP and GDP growth for the foreseeable future.

    FYI, this isn't just me blowing smoke, Tommy: it is backed up:

    <https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2022/05/10/overturning-roe-v-wade-would-have-very-damaging-economic-effects-treasury-secretary-warns-heres-how/>

    TL;DR is that its a -0.5%/year GDP suppression...and note that because
    this is per year, it compounds: after just ten years, its -5%, or roughly 1-2 years worth of GDP growth.

    The bottom line: you libtards are DESPERATE to find some, any,
    good news for Lyin' Biden. I understand that - what else can you
    do? Freedom Day is now just 180 days away.

    So then there were no new jobs under Trump, do you agree?
    By Tommy's logic, there couldn't have been any new jobs under Trump:
    every last one of them were "old" jobs finally returning to the market after the 2008 recession. /s


    -hh
    I am truly TOUCHED by you libtard's interest in President Trump's economic performance

    But, why do you care? All you need to know is that there are more jobs with Biden than Trump.

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