• OT: Surprising no one at all...

    From Alan@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 31 10:39:14 2022
    ...except the deluded wingnuts:

    'The anti-parasitic drug ivermectin, which has surged in popularity as
    an alternative treatment for Covid-19 despite a lack of strong research
    to back it up, showed no sign of alleviating the disease, according to
    results of a large clinical trial published on Wednesday.

    The study, which compared more than 1,300 people infected with the
    coronavirus in Brazil who received either ivermectin or a placebo,
    effectively ruled out the drug as a treatment for Covid, the study’s
    authors said.

    “There’s really no sign of any benefit,” said Dr. David Boulware, an infectious-disease expert at the University of Minnesota.'

    <https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/30/health/covid-ivermectin-hospitalization.html>

    'Around the world, researchers carried out small clinical trials to see
    if the drug treated the disease. In December 2020, Andrew Hill, a
    virologist at the University of Liverpool in England, reviewed the
    results of 23 trials and concluded that ivermectin appeared to
    significantly lower the risk of death from Covid-19.

    If larger trials confirmed those findings, Dr. Hill said in a
    presentation at the time, “this really is going to be a transformative treatment.”

    ...

    But not long after Dr. Hill published his review last summer, reports
    surfaced that many of the studies he included in the analysis were
    flawed and, in at least one case, alleged to be fraudulent. Dr. Hill
    retracted his original study and started a new one, which he published
    in January.

    On their second review, Dr. Hill and his colleagues focused on the
    studies least likely to be biased. In that stricter survey, ivermectin’s benefit vanished.'

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  • From Irving S@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu Mar 31 12:31:51 2022
    On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 1:39:19 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    ...except the deluded wingnuts:

    'The anti-parasitic drug ivermectin, which has surged in popularity as
    an alternative treatment for Covid-19 despite a lack of strong research
    to back it up, showed no sign of alleviating the disease, according to results of a large clinical trial published on Wednesday.

    The study, which compared more than 1,300 people infected with the coronavirus in Brazil who received either ivermectin or a placebo, effectively ruled out the drug as a treatment for Covid, the study’s authors said.

    “There’s really no sign of any benefit,” said Dr. David Boulware, an infectious-disease expert at the University of Minnesota.'

    <https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/30/health/covid-ivermectin-hospitalization.html>

    'Around the world, researchers carried out small clinical trials to see
    if the drug treated the disease. In December 2020, Andrew Hill, a
    virologist at the University of Liverpool in England, reviewed the
    results of 23 trials and concluded that ivermectin appeared to
    significantly lower the risk of death from Covid-19.

    If larger trials confirmed those findings, Dr. Hill said in a
    presentation at the time, “this really is going to be a transformative treatment.”

    ...

    But not long after Dr. Hill published his review last summer, reports surfaced that many of the studies he included in the analysis were
    flawed and, in at least one case, alleged to be fraudulent. Dr. Hill retracted his original study and started a new one, which he published
    in January.

    On their second review, Dr. Hill and his colleagues focused on the
    studies least likely to be biased. In that stricter survey, ivermectin’s benefit vanished.'

    Troll bait as usual. For every study that discredits Invermectin, there is one that does the opposite.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33065103/

    Bottom line, whatever the popular media and politicans say, I believe the opposite. You cannot trust a lot of what most MDs and Big Pharma say, they are in it for the money and covering there own butts

    thank you old man for taking the time to post this on a worthless golf group. The only value it serves is comedy, goodness you entertain so well.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Irving S on Thu Mar 31 13:34:57 2022
    On 2022-03-31 12:31 p.m., Irving S wrote:
    On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 1:39:19 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    ...except the deluded wingnuts:

    'The anti-parasitic drug ivermectin, which has surged in popularity
    as an alternative treatment for Covid-19 despite a lack of strong
    research to back it up, showed no sign of alleviating the disease,
    according to results of a large clinical trial published on
    Wednesday.

    The study, which compared more than 1,300 people infected with the
    coronavirus in Brazil who received either ivermectin or a placebo,
    effectively ruled out the drug as a treatment for Covid, the
    study’s authors said.

    “There’s really no sign of any benefit,” said Dr. David Boulware,
    an infectious-disease expert at the University of Minnesota.'

    <https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/30/health/covid-ivermectin-hospitalization.html>



    'Around the world, researchers carried out small clinical trials to see
    if the drug treated the disease. In December 2020, Andrew Hill, a
    virologist at the University of Liverpool in England, reviewed the
    results of 23 trials and concluded that ivermectin appeared to
    significantly lower the risk of death from Covid-19.

    If larger trials confirmed those findings, Dr. Hill said in a
    presentation at the time, “this really is going to be a
    transformative treatment.”

    ...

    But not long after Dr. Hill published his review last summer,
    reports surfaced that many of the studies he included in the
    analysis were flawed and, in at least one case, alleged to be
    fraudulent. Dr. Hill retracted his original study and started a new
    one, which he published in January.

    On their second review, Dr. Hill and his colleagues focused on the
    studies least likely to be biased. In that stricter survey,
    ivermectin’s benefit vanished.'

    Troll bait as usual. For every study that discredits Invermectin,
    there is one that does the opposite.

    Except this literally explained that one of those that did the opposite
    did it because it was poorly run.


    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33065103/

    Bottom line, whatever the popular media and politicans say, I believe
    the opposite. You cannot trust a lot of what most MDs and Big Pharma
    say, they are in it for the money and covering there own butts


    Because that's what a rational person does: just believe the opposite
    all the time.

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