• Joe 'Talked About Weather' won't work in court

    From bruce bowser@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 12 09:45:37 2023
    James Comer Skipped His Panel’s Big Biden Probe Interview With Devon Archer Oversight Chairman James Comer keeps touting his committee's interview with Hunter Biden business associate Devon Archer. Turns out, Comer wasn't even there
    Yahoo News - Aug 2, 2023
    -- https://news.yahoo.com/james-comer-skipped-panel-big-173657040.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to bruce bowser on Sun Aug 13 11:34:15 2023
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:45:39 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
    James Comer Skipped His Panel’s Big Biden Probe Interview With Devon Archer
    Oversight Chairman James Comer keeps touting his committee's interview with Hunter Biden business associate Devon Archer. Turns out, Comer wasn't even there
    Yahoo News - Aug 2, 2023
    -- https://news.yahoo.com/james-comer-skipped-panel-big-173657040.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

    PLEASE tell me WHY BooBoo had his prospective business partners talk to the President of the United States over TWENTY TIMES? Surely they weren't interested in the weather in D.C.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Sun Aug 13 12:13:01 2023
    On 2023-08-13 11:34, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:45:39 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser
    wrote:
    James Comer Skipped His Panel’s Big Biden Probe Interview With
    Devon Archer Oversight Chairman James Comer keeps touting his
    committee's interview with Hunter Biden business associate Devon
    Archer. Turns out, Comer wasn't even there Yahoo News - Aug 2,
    2023 --
    https://news.yahoo.com/james-comer-skipped-panel-big-173657040.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall


    PLEASE tell me WHY BooBoo had his prospective business partners talk
    to the President of the United States over TWENTY TIMES? Surely they
    weren't interested in the weather in D.C.


    Where does it say that Joe Biden talked to Hunter Biden's business
    partners "twenty times", Sunshine?

    What was said was there were "maybe 20 times" when Joe Biden happened to
    call his son while a meeting was going on.

    Unlike you (apparently) I've actually read the transcript...

    ...the entire transcript, not the redacted, self-serving version Comer
    put up on the Oversight Committee's website.

    <https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Devon-Archer-Transcript.pdf>

    Starting on page 120:

    'Mr. Goldman:

    And you -- to your knowledge, you know, none of the times that you would
    ever overhear Vice President Biden calling Hunter was to -- was with the purpose of discussing business with him.

    [Note: Joe Biden calling his son, not his son calling him]

    Archer:

    It was, yeah, not related to commercial business, politics, that kind of stuff.'

    And moving on specifically to the those "twenty" calls:

    'Goldman (Q):

    I want to come back -- there was a lot of conversation in the
    Republicans' hours of questioning about these phone calls --

    ...

    Q: During those calls -- let's start with the one in Paris.

    Archer(A) Sure.

    Q: -- did Joe Biden -- was Joe Biden calling Hunter Biden? Was Hunter
    Biden calling Joe Biden?

    A: I believe on the Paris, it was he called Hunter. He called Hunter.

    ...

    Q: -- was there any discussion of Hunter Biden's business in Paris or
    this business meeting that they were having?

    A: No

    Q: But beyond cap tables, there wasn't any conversation of "you need to
    help me with this business I have with these people," or, "you need to
    take this action or that action to help these business partners of mine."

    A: Correct.

    Q: That never happened.

    A: That did not happen.

    ...

    Q: Did he [Joe Biden] take any official action on behalf of BHR?

    A: No.

    Q Was he ever asked to take an official action on behalf of BHR?

    A: No.

    Q: So is it fair to say that these conversations that my Republican
    colleagues asked you about where Hunter Biden had Joe Biden on the phone
    around business partners, that there was nothing in those conversations
    beyond the exchange of pleasantries?

    A: That is correct.'

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  • From bruce bowser@21:1/5 to Tommy on Mon Aug 14 04:48:56 2023
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 2:34:17 PM UTC-4, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:45:39 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
    James Comer Skipped His Panel’s Big Biden Probe Interview With Devon Archer
    Oversight Chairman James Comer keeps touting his committee's interview with Hunter Biden business associate Devon Archer. Turns out, Comer wasn't even there
    Yahoo News - Aug 2, 2023
    -- https://news.yahoo.com/james-comer-skipped-panel-big-173657040.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
    PLEASE tell me WHY BooBoo had his prospective business partners talk to the President of the United States over TWENTY TIMES? Surely they weren't interested in the weather in D.C.

    Prove they talked about business.

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Aug 14 19:55:04 2023
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 12:13:04 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-13 11:34, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:45:39 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser
    wrote:
    James Comer Skipped His Panel’s Big Biden Probe Interview With
    Devon Archer Oversight Chairman James Comer keeps touting his
    committee's interview with Hunter Biden business associate Devon
    Archer. Turns out, Comer wasn't even there Yahoo News - Aug 2,
    2023 --
    https://news.yahoo.com/james-comer-skipped-panel-big-173657040.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall


    PLEASE tell me WHY BooBoo had his prospective business partners talk
    to the President of the United States over TWENTY TIMES? Surely they weren't interested in the weather in D.C.
    Where does it say that Joe Biden talked to Hunter Biden's business
    partners "twenty times", Sunshine?

    What was said was there were "maybe 20 times" when Joe Biden happened to call his son while a meeting was going on.

    Unlike you (apparently) I've actually read the transcript...

    ...the entire transcript, not the redacted, self-serving version Comer
    put up on the Oversight Committee's website.

    <https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Devon-Archer-Transcript.pdf>

    Starting on page 120:

    'Mr. Goldman:

    And you -- to your knowledge, you know, none of the times that you would ever overhear Vice President Biden calling Hunter was to -- was with the purpose of discussing business with him.

    [Note: Joe Biden calling his son, not his son calling him]

    Archer:

    It was, yeah, not related to commercial business, politics, that kind of stuff.'

    And moving on specifically to the those "twenty" calls:

    'Goldman (Q):

    I want to come back -- there was a lot of conversation in the
    Republicans' hours of questioning about these phone calls --

    ...

    Q: During those calls -- let's start with the one in Paris.

    Archer(A) Sure.

    Q: -- did Joe Biden -- was Joe Biden calling Hunter Biden? Was Hunter
    Biden calling Joe Biden?

    A: I believe on the Paris, it was he called Hunter. He called Hunter.

    ...

    Q: -- was there any discussion of Hunter Biden's business in Paris or
    this business meeting that they were having?

    A: No

    Q: But beyond cap tables, there wasn't any conversation of "you need to
    help me with this business I have with these people," or, "you need to
    take this action or that action to help these business partners of mine."

    A: Correct.

    Q: That never happened.

    A: That did not happen.

    ...

    Q: Did he [Joe Biden] take any official action on behalf of BHR?

    A: No.

    Q Was he ever asked to take an official action on behalf of BHR?

    A: No.

    Q: So is it fair to say that these conversations that my Republican colleagues asked you about where Hunter Biden had Joe Biden on the phone around business partners, that there was nothing in those conversations beyond the exchange of pleasantries?

    A: That is correct.'

    Then tell me HOW many calls were there?

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Tommy on Mon Aug 14 20:32:33 2023
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 7:55:06 PM UTC-7, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 12:13:04 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-13 11:34, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:45:39 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser
    wrote:
    James Comer Skipped His Panel’s Big Biden Probe Interview With
    Devon Archer Oversight Chairman James Comer keeps touting his
    committee's interview with Hunter Biden business associate Devon
    Archer. Turns out, Comer wasn't even there Yahoo News - Aug 2,
    2023 --
    https://news.yahoo.com/james-comer-skipped-panel-big-173657040.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall


    PLEASE tell me WHY BooBoo had his prospective business partners talk
    to the President of the United States over TWENTY TIMES? Surely they weren't interested in the weather in D.C.
    Where does it say that Joe Biden talked to Hunter Biden's business partners "twenty times", Sunshine?

    What was said was there were "maybe 20 times" when Joe Biden happened to call his son while a meeting was going on.

    Unlike you (apparently) I've actually read the transcript...

    ...the entire transcript, not the redacted, self-serving version Comer
    put up on the Oversight Committee's website.

    <https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Devon-Archer-Transcript.pdf>

    Starting on page 120:

    'Mr. Goldman:

    And you -- to your knowledge, you know, none of the times that you would ever overhear Vice President Biden calling Hunter was to -- was with the purpose of discussing business with him.

    [Note: Joe Biden calling his son, not his son calling him]

    Archer:

    It was, yeah, not related to commercial business, politics, that kind of stuff.'

    And moving on specifically to the those "twenty" calls:

    'Goldman (Q):

    I want to come back -- there was a lot of conversation in the
    Republicans' hours of questioning about these phone calls --

    ...

    Q: During those calls -- let's start with the one in Paris.

    Archer(A) Sure.

    Q: -- did Joe Biden -- was Joe Biden calling Hunter Biden? Was Hunter Biden calling Joe Biden?

    A: I believe on the Paris, it was he called Hunter. He called Hunter.

    ...

    Q: -- was there any discussion of Hunter Biden's business in Paris or
    this business meeting that they were having?

    A: No

    Q: But beyond cap tables, there wasn't any conversation of "you need to help me with this business I have with these people," or, "you need to take this action or that action to help these business partners of mine."

    A: Correct.

    Q: That never happened.

    A: That did not happen.

    ...

    Q: Did he [Joe Biden] take any official action on behalf of BHR?

    A: No.

    Q Was he ever asked to take an official action on behalf of BHR?

    A: No.

    Q: So is it fair to say that these conversations that my Republican colleagues asked you about where Hunter Biden had Joe Biden on the phone around business partners, that there was nothing in those conversations beyond the exchange of pleasantries?

    A: That is correct.'
    Then tell me HOW many calls were there?

    Well, I can tell you because you apparently did not read ALL of the transcript (p. 51):

    20 Q Not necessarily investors but with people who Hunter Biden was trying to 21 either get business with or make contacts with or add value to?
    22 A In my 10 -- in my whole partnership, maybe 20 times.
    23 Q And during those 20 times, did Hunter Biden ever place his dad on
    24 speakerphone?
    25 A Yes.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Mon Aug 14 22:27:42 2023
    On 2023-08-14 19:55, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 12:13:04 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-13 11:34, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:45:39 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser
    wrote:
    James Comer Skipped His Panel’s Big Biden Probe Interview With
    Devon Archer Oversight Chairman James Comer keeps touting his
    committee's interview with Hunter Biden business associate Devon
    Archer. Turns out, Comer wasn't even there Yahoo News - Aug 2,
    2023 --
    https://news.yahoo.com/james-comer-skipped-panel-big-173657040.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall


    PLEASE tell me WHY BooBoo had his prospective business partners talk
    to the President of the United States over TWENTY TIMES? Surely they
    weren't interested in the weather in D.C.
    Where does it say that Joe Biden talked to Hunter Biden's business
    partners "twenty times", Sunshine?

    What was said was there were "maybe 20 times" when Joe Biden happened to
    call his son while a meeting was going on.

    Unlike you (apparently) I've actually read the transcript...

    ...the entire transcript, not the redacted, self-serving version Comer
    put up on the Oversight Committee's website.

    <https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Devon-Archer-Transcript.pdf>

    Starting on page 120:

    'Mr. Goldman:

    And you -- to your knowledge, you know, none of the times that you would
    ever overhear Vice President Biden calling Hunter was to -- was with the
    purpose of discussing business with him.

    [Note: Joe Biden calling his son, not his son calling him]

    Archer:

    It was, yeah, not related to commercial business, politics, that kind of
    stuff.'

    And moving on specifically to the those "twenty" calls:

    'Goldman (Q):

    I want to come back -- there was a lot of conversation in the
    Republicans' hours of questioning about these phone calls --

    ...

    Q: During those calls -- let's start with the one in Paris.

    Archer(A) Sure.

    Q: -- did Joe Biden -- was Joe Biden calling Hunter Biden? Was Hunter
    Biden calling Joe Biden?

    A: I believe on the Paris, it was he called Hunter. He called Hunter.

    ...

    Q: -- was there any discussion of Hunter Biden's business in Paris or
    this business meeting that they were having?

    A: No

    Q: But beyond cap tables, there wasn't any conversation of "you need to
    help me with this business I have with these people," or, "you need to
    take this action or that action to help these business partners of mine."

    A: Correct.

    Q: That never happened.

    A: That did not happen.

    ...

    Q: Did he [Joe Biden] take any official action on behalf of BHR?

    A: No.

    Q Was he ever asked to take an official action on behalf of BHR?

    A: No.

    Q: So is it fair to say that these conversations that my Republican
    colleagues asked you about where Hunter Biden had Joe Biden on the phone
    around business partners, that there was nothing in those conversations
    beyond the exchange of pleasantries?

    A: That is correct.'

    Then tell me HOW many calls were there?

    Archer told you...

    ...and told you they weren't about business.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Tue Aug 15 08:28:44 2023
    On 2023-08-14 20:32, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 7:55:06 PM UTC-7, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 12:13:04 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-13 11:34, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:45:39 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser
    wrote:
    James Comer Skipped His Panel’s Big Biden Probe Interview With
    Devon Archer Oversight Chairman James Comer keeps touting his
    committee's interview with Hunter Biden business associate Devon
    Archer. Turns out, Comer wasn't even there Yahoo News - Aug 2,
    2023 --
    https://news.yahoo.com/james-comer-skipped-panel-big-173657040.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall


    PLEASE tell me WHY BooBoo had his prospective business partners talk
    to the President of the United States over TWENTY TIMES? Surely they
    weren't interested in the weather in D.C.
    Where does it say that Joe Biden talked to Hunter Biden's business
    partners "twenty times", Sunshine?

    What was said was there were "maybe 20 times" when Joe Biden happened to >>> call his son while a meeting was going on.

    Unlike you (apparently) I've actually read the transcript...

    ...the entire transcript, not the redacted, self-serving version Comer
    put up on the Oversight Committee's website.

    <https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Devon-Archer-Transcript.pdf>

    Starting on page 120:

    'Mr. Goldman:

    And you -- to your knowledge, you know, none of the times that you would >>> ever overhear Vice President Biden calling Hunter was to -- was with the >>> purpose of discussing business with him.

    [Note: Joe Biden calling his son, not his son calling him]

    Archer:

    It was, yeah, not related to commercial business, politics, that kind of >>> stuff.'

    And moving on specifically to the those "twenty" calls:

    'Goldman (Q):

    I want to come back -- there was a lot of conversation in the
    Republicans' hours of questioning about these phone calls --

    ...

    Q: During those calls -- let's start with the one in Paris.

    Archer(A) Sure.

    Q: -- did Joe Biden -- was Joe Biden calling Hunter Biden? Was Hunter
    Biden calling Joe Biden?

    A: I believe on the Paris, it was he called Hunter. He called Hunter.

    ...

    Q: -- was there any discussion of Hunter Biden's business in Paris or
    this business meeting that they were having?

    A: No

    Q: But beyond cap tables, there wasn't any conversation of "you need to
    help me with this business I have with these people," or, "you need to
    take this action or that action to help these business partners of mine." >>>
    A: Correct.

    Q: That never happened.

    A: That did not happen.

    ...

    Q: Did he [Joe Biden] take any official action on behalf of BHR?

    A: No.

    Q Was he ever asked to take an official action on behalf of BHR?

    A: No.

    Q: So is it fair to say that these conversations that my Republican
    colleagues asked you about where Hunter Biden had Joe Biden on the phone >>> around business partners, that there was nothing in those conversations
    beyond the exchange of pleasantries?

    A: That is correct.'
    Then tell me HOW many calls were there?

    Well, I can tell you because you apparently did not read ALL of the transcript (p. 51):

    20 Q Not necessarily investors but with people who Hunter Biden was trying to 21 either get business with or make contacts with or add value to?
    22 A In my 10 -- in my whole partnership, maybe 20 times.
    23 Q And during those 20 times, did Hunter Biden ever place his dad on
    24 speakerphone?
    25 A Yes.

    But when asked if business was ever discussed, Archer said "No."

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  • From bruce bowser@21:1/5 to Frank on Sun Sep 3 07:14:51 2023
    On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 10:44:39 AM UTC-7, Frank wrote in alt.home.repair:
    On 8/24/2023 11:41 AM, trader_4 wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 1:29:21 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
    Bob F <bobn...@gmail.com> writes:
    On 8/22/2023 7:38 AM, Ed P wrote:
    On 8/22/2023 8:45 AM, trader_4 wrote:

    Are you stupid? The cops sitting around needlessly at road work
    sites, almost
    all of it is either for a pot hole repair, a water pipe or other
    utility repair and that
    cost is pasted on to consumers. But that you can't grasp that is not >>>>> surprising.
    It's an affliction of most Democrats. They think they can raise a tax >>>>> on evil businesses
    and that money doesn't wind up coming from consumers paying for it. >>>>
    How many times have you heard "they should tax businesses, not us"? >>>> There is a lot of ignorance in the world. Businesses don't pay taxes. >>>
    That has become a problem.
    What the trader doesn't recognize is that businesses pay taxes on
    their profits. If they don't make a profit, they don't pay tax.

    That's not true. Businesses pay lots of taxes, whether they have income or not, some states have taxes on business gross receipts, they pay real estate
    taxes, permit fees, social security taxes. But it's
    all irrelevant, because whatever costs a business incurs, whether they have a
    profit or not, they get passed
    along to consumers, those that buy their products or services. So again, if BestBuy has to pay for two cop cars to sit around while they fix a parking lot entrance, that cost gets added to all their expenses, just like rent, cost of goods and salaries. Why can't Democrats understand
    even the most basic economics?

    And ultimately, most businesses, like the ones impacted by crazy bs
    cop work, do pay taxes on income. I drive past one small business after another around here, those owners are paying income tax, you libs like
    to sock it to them, pretending that they are the rich.

    Now, since trumps debt-busting tax breaks for the rich an powerful,
    businesses pay less than they did before. The GOP claimed that
    reducing their tax burden will lead them to hire more employees.

    It worked, unemployment is at record lows, just ask Old Joe, he's bragging about it.

    Which is bogus reasoning, and has been shown to be bogus - instead
    companies used it to buy back stock or boost their dividends
    neither of which helped the economy.

    So Old Joe is lying when he claims how great the economy is doing?
    I hope voters keep that in mind. BTW, he sure is a winner. I see in Maui he told a room full of fire survivors that he knows what it's like to lose a
    home. Once upon a time, they had a house fire and he almost lost Jill,
    his dog and his corvette. Turns out it was a small kitchen fire, it was confined to the kitchen and it was over in 20 minutes. Maybe he can
    turn blue HI red?

    One might sometimes wonder if the entire secondary market in
    business equity is flawed - particularly when leveraged using
    derivitives.

    Of course it is to lib socialists.
    Someone wrote that it is better to call Bidenomics, Bidencomics.

    How many new jobs created in August?

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to bruce bowser on Tue Sep 5 20:28:43 2023
    On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 7:14:54 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
    On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 10:44:39 AM UTC-7, Frank wrote in alt.home.repair:
    On 8/24/2023 11:41 AM, trader_4 wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 1:29:21 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
    Bob F <bobn...@gmail.com> writes:
    On 8/22/2023 7:38 AM, Ed P wrote:
    On 8/22/2023 8:45 AM, trader_4 wrote:

    Are you stupid? The cops sitting around needlessly at road work >>>>> sites, almost
    all of it is either for a pot hole repair, a water pipe or other >>>>> utility repair and that
    cost is pasted on to consumers. But that you can't grasp that is not >>>>> surprising.
    It's an affliction of most Democrats. They think they can raise a tax
    on evil businesses
    and that money doesn't wind up coming from consumers paying for it. >>>>
    How many times have you heard "they should tax businesses, not us"? >>>> There is a lot of ignorance in the world. Businesses don't pay taxes. >>>
    That has become a problem.
    What the trader doesn't recognize is that businesses pay taxes on
    their profits. If they don't make a profit, they don't pay tax.

    That's not true. Businesses pay lots of taxes, whether they have income or
    not, some states have taxes on business gross receipts, they pay real estate
    taxes, permit fees, social security taxes. But it's
    all irrelevant, because whatever costs a business incurs, whether they have a
    profit or not, they get passed
    along to consumers, those that buy their products or services. So again, if BestBuy has to pay for two cop cars to sit around while they fix a parking lot entrance, that cost gets added to all their expenses, just like rent, cost of goods and salaries. Why can't Democrats understand even the most basic economics?

    And ultimately, most businesses, like the ones impacted by crazy bs
    cop work, do pay taxes on income. I drive past one small business after another around here, those owners are paying income tax, you libs like to sock it to them, pretending that they are the rich.

    Now, since trumps debt-busting tax breaks for the rich an powerful,
    businesses pay less than they did before. The GOP claimed that
    reducing their tax burden will lead them to hire more employees.

    It worked, unemployment is at record lows, just ask Old Joe, he's bragging
    about it.

    Which is bogus reasoning, and has been shown to be bogus - instead
    companies used it to buy back stock or boost their dividends
    neither of which helped the economy.

    So Old Joe is lying when he claims how great the economy is doing?
    I hope voters keep that in mind. BTW, he sure is a winner. I see in Maui he told a room full of fire survivors that he knows what it's like to lose a
    home. Once upon a time, they had a house fire and he almost lost Jill, his dog and his corvette. Turns out it was a small kitchen fire, it was confined to the kitchen and it was over in 20 minutes. Maybe he can
    turn blue HI red?

    One might sometimes wonder if the entire secondary market in
    business equity is flawed - particularly when leveraged using
    derivitives.

    Of course it is to lib socialists.
    Someone wrote that it is better to call Bidenomics, Bidencomics.

    How many new jobs created in August?

    And WHAT happened to the unemployment rate and WHY?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Wed Sep 6 01:53:19 2023
    On 2023-09-05 23:28, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 7:14:54 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
    On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 10:44:39 AM UTC-7, Frank wrote in alt.home.repair:
    On 8/24/2023 11:41 AM, trader_4 wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 1:29:21 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>> Bob F <bobn...@gmail.com> writes:
    On 8/22/2023 7:38 AM, Ed P wrote:
    On 8/22/2023 8:45 AM, trader_4 wrote:

    Are you stupid? The cops sitting around needlessly at road work >>>>>>>> sites, almost
    all of it is either for a pot hole repair, a water pipe or other >>>>>>>> utility repair and that
    cost is pasted on to consumers. But that you can't grasp that is not >>>>>>>> surprising.
    It's an affliction of most Democrats. They think they can raise a tax >>>>>>>> on evil businesses
    and that money doesn't wind up coming from consumers paying for it. >>>>>>>
    How many times have you heard "they should tax businesses, not us"? >>>>>>> There is a lot of ignorance in the world. Businesses don't pay taxes. >>>>>>
    That has become a problem.
    What the trader doesn't recognize is that businesses pay taxes on
    their profits. If they don't make a profit, they don't pay tax.

    That's not true. Businesses pay lots of taxes, whether they have income or >>>> not, some states have taxes on business gross receipts, they pay real estate
    taxes, permit fees, social security taxes. But it's
    all irrelevant, because whatever costs a business incurs, whether they have a
    profit or not, they get passed
    along to consumers, those that buy their products or services. So again, >>>> if BestBuy has to pay for two cop cars to sit around while they fix a
    parking lot entrance, that cost gets added to all their expenses, just >>>> like rent, cost of goods and salaries. Why can't Democrats understand
    even the most basic economics?

    And ultimately, most businesses, like the ones impacted by crazy bs
    cop work, do pay taxes on income. I drive past one small business after >>>> another around here, those owners are paying income tax, you libs like >>>> to sock it to them, pretending that they are the rich.

    Now, since trumps debt-busting tax breaks for the rich an powerful,
    businesses pay less than they did before. The GOP claimed that
    reducing their tax burden will lead them to hire more employees.

    It worked, unemployment is at record lows, just ask Old Joe, he's bragging >>>> about it.

    Which is bogus reasoning, and has been shown to be bogus - instead
    companies used it to buy back stock or boost their dividends
    neither of which helped the economy.

    So Old Joe is lying when he claims how great the economy is doing?
    I hope voters keep that in mind. BTW, he sure is a winner. I see in Maui >>>> he told a room full of fire survivors that he knows what it's like to lose a
    home. Once upon a time, they had a house fire and he almost lost Jill, >>>> his dog and his corvette. Turns out it was a small kitchen fire, it was >>>> confined to the kitchen and it was over in 20 minutes. Maybe he can
    turn blue HI red?

    One might sometimes wonder if the entire secondary market in
    business equity is flawed - particularly when leveraged using
    derivitives.

    Of course it is to lib socialists.
    Someone wrote that it is better to call Bidenomics, Bidencomics.

    How many new jobs created in August?

    And WHAT happened to the unemployment rate and WHY?

    It fell to levels that have not been sustained as low since the late 1960s.

    <https://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=z1ebjpgk2654c1_#!ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=unemployment_rate&fdim_y=seasonality:S&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=country&idim=country:US&ifdim=country&tstart=-62708400000&tend=1691294400000&hl=en_
    US&dl=en_US&ind=false>

    Now you tell us what you "think" that happened, Sunshine.

    It should be amusing.

    :-)

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