• Lyin' Biden DISRESPECTS gold star families with LIES

    From Tommy@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 9 23:12:27 2023
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI

    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE?????

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Tommy on Thu Aug 10 06:48:52 2023
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:12:30 AM UTC-4, Tommy wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI

    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE?????

    Those families lacked both the required Security Clearance and a Need-to-Know ...right?
    As military families they should have long ago learned that there's Operational priorities
    which will always deny them full transparency. If their children didn't educate them of
    this before their deployment, that's on the family, not the Service.

    Plus another question is when were they told that Trump had already reduced the total troop count
    to under 2,500 before Jan 20th which jeopardized their physical security long before Biden took office?
    That was Open Literature, so there's no excuse for them to have been ignorant of it. Ditto how Trump
    had previously negotiated a withdrawal timeline: also Open Literature.

    The truly sad part is that these families were then exploited by Republicans for petty artisan political gain.

    -hh

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to -hh on Thu Aug 10 10:45:07 2023
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 6:48:55 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:12:30 AM UTC-4, Tommy wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI

    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE?????
    Those families lacked both the required Security Clearance and a Need-to-Know ...right?
    As military families they should have long ago learned that there's Operational priorities
    which will always deny them full transparency. If their children didn't educate them of
    this before their deployment, that's on the family, not the Service.

    Plus another question is when were they told that Trump had already reduced the total troop count
    to under 2,500 before Jan 20th which jeopardized their physical security long before Biden took office?
    That was Open Literature, so there's no excuse for them to have been ignorant of it. Ditto how Trump
    had previously negotiated a withdrawal timeline: also Open Literature.

    The truly sad part is that these families were then exploited by Republicans for petty artisan political gain.

    -hh

    Pure LIBTARD BULLSHIT EXCUSES! They could have been EASILY granted security clearances for that specific event - Lyin' Biden has the POWER to do that. This wasn't done STRICTLY because it would have EMBARRASSED the senile pervert.

    On top of that, the senile pervert LIED about the death of HIS OWN SON!!!

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Thu Aug 10 11:15:15 2023
    On 2023-08-10 10:45, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 6:48:55 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:12:30 AM UTC-4, Tommy wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI



    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE?????
    Those families lacked both the required Security Clearance and a
    Need-to-Know ...right? As military families they should have long
    ago learned that there's Operational priorities which will always
    deny them full transparency. If their children didn't educate them
    of this before their deployment, that's on the family, not the
    Service.

    Plus another question is when were they told that Trump had already
    reduced the total troop count to under 2,500 before Jan 20th which
    jeopardized their physical security long before Biden took office?
    That was Open Literature, so there's no excuse for them to have
    been ignorant of it. Ditto how Trump had previously negotiated a
    withdrawal timeline: also Open Literature.

    The truly sad part is that these families were then exploited by
    Republicans for petty artisan political gain.

    -hh

    Pure LIBTARD BULLSHIT EXCUSES! They could have been EASILY granted
    security clearances for that specific event - Lyin' Biden has the
    POWER to do that. This wasn't done STRICTLY because it would have
    EMBARRASSED the senile pervert.

    "Could have"? Sure.

    But do you think that's actually wise; just granting security clearances
    to anyone who's had a family member die in the line of duty?

    You can't see anything problematic with that, can you, Sunshine?

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu Aug 10 13:10:48 2023
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:15:19 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 10:45, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 6:48:55 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:12:30 AM UTC-4, Tommy wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI



    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE?????
    Those families lacked both the required Security Clearance and a
    Need-to-Know ...right? As military families they should have long
    ago learned that there's Operational priorities which will always
    deny them full transparency. If their children didn't educate them
    of this before their deployment, that's on the family, not the
    Service.

    Plus another question is when were they told that Trump had already
    reduced the total troop count to under 2,500 before Jan 20th which
    jeopardized their physical security long before Biden took office?
    That was Open Literature, so there's no excuse for them to have
    been ignorant of it. Ditto how Trump had previously negotiated a
    withdrawal timeline: also Open Literature.

    The truly sad part is that these families were then exploited by
    Republicans for petty artisan political gain.


    Pure LIBTARD BULLSHIT EXCUSES!

    Nope: it is an understanding of, and compliance with Federal Security Regulations,
    a topic which Tommy has failed to demonstrate knowledge & mastery of.

    They could have been EASILY granted security clearances for that specific event - Lyin' Biden has the POWER to do that.

    False; authority to grant security clearances lies here in DoD, not the Executive Branch.
    Biden could order declassification, but that opens it up to everyone, including our enemies.

    This wasn't done STRICTLY
    because it would have EMBARRASSED the senile pervert.

    "Could have"? Sure.

    If Tommy could actually prove that claim, he would finally have proof of an actual
    crime perpetrated by Biden ... but that also assumes that Biden was the OCA, not
    the DoD, which doesn't make sense since it was a DoD Operation: the SCG and OCA
    would reside within DoD, not the Executive Branch. "Strike 2" and "Strike 3" on Tommy
    demonstrating a lack of knowledge on Fed Security Regulations just within this thread.

    But do you think that's actually wise; just granting security clearances
    to anyone who's had a family member die in the line of duty?

    Particularly since Tommy's apparently trying to ask for things which they do not
    have a clear "Need to Know" even if they did have the appropriate Security Clearance.
    "Strike 4".

    You can't see anything problematic with that, can you, Sunshine?

    Tommy apparently believes that every private citizen has an inalienable right just because they have a personal curiosity to know absolutely every last thing
    that's going on in the Federal government at all levels, down to and including what time each employee takes bathroom break & how much urine discharged.

    Tommy's problem is that needs to turn himself around to realize that the same principle
    he's demanding for this release also has to apply to every minute that he was working
    which was paid (directly & indirectly) by the Government, because “What's sauce for the
    goose is sauce for the gander.” As a US citizen, I hereby demand that Tommy publish his
    own timekeeping accounting here immediately and without delay for the last decade of his
    career, because there's invariably illegal Waste/Fraud/Abuse within. Refusal by Tommy
    to comply also reveals Tommy as a hypocrite, for saying one thing while doing another.

    -hh

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to -hh on Thu Aug 10 18:21:33 2023
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:15:19 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 10:45, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 6:48:55 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:12:30 AM UTC-4, Tommy wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI



    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE?????
    Those families lacked both the required Security Clearance and a
    Need-to-Know ...right? As military families they should have long
    ago learned that there's Operational priorities which will always
    deny them full transparency. If their children didn't educate them
    of this before their deployment, that's on the family, not the
    Service.

    Plus another question is when were they told that Trump had already
    reduced the total troop count to under 2,500 before Jan 20th which
    jeopardized their physical security long before Biden took office?
    That was Open Literature, so there's no excuse for them to have
    been ignorant of it. Ditto how Trump had previously negotiated a
    withdrawal timeline: also Open Literature.

    The truly sad part is that these families were then exploited by
    Republicans for petty artisan political gain.


    Pure LIBTARD BULLSHIT EXCUSES!

    Nope: it is an understanding of, and compliance with Federal Security Regulations,
    a topic which Tommy has failed to demonstrate knowledge & mastery of.
    They could have been EASILY granted security clearances for that specific
    event - Lyin' Biden has the POWER to do that.
    False; authority to grant security clearances lies here in DoD, not the Executive Branch.
    Biden could order declassification, but that opens it up to everyone, including our enemies.
    This wasn't done STRICTLY
    because it would have EMBARRASSED the senile pervert.

    "Could have"? Sure.
    If Tommy could actually prove that claim, he would finally have proof of an actual
    crime perpetrated by Biden ... but that also assumes that Biden was the OCA, not
    the DoD, which doesn't make sense since it was a DoD Operation: the SCG and OCA
    would reside within DoD, not the Executive Branch. "Strike 2" and "Strike 3" on Tommy
    demonstrating a lack of knowledge on Fed Security Regulations just within this thread.
    But do you think that's actually wise; just granting security clearances to anyone who's had a family member die in the line of duty?
    Particularly since Tommy's apparently trying to ask for things which they do not
    have a clear "Need to Know" even if they did have the appropriate Security Clearance.
    "Strike 4".
    You can't see anything problematic with that, can you, Sunshine?
    Tommy apparently believes that every private citizen has an inalienable right
    just because they have a personal curiosity to know absolutely every last thing
    that's going on in the Federal government at all levels, down to and including
    what time each employee takes bathroom break & how much urine discharged.

    Tommy's problem is that needs to turn himself around to realize that the same principle
    he's demanding for this release also has to apply to every minute that he was working
    which was paid (directly & indirectly) by the Government, because “What's sauce for the
    goose is sauce for the gander.” As a US citizen, I hereby demand that Tommy publish his
    own timekeeping accounting here immediately and without delay for the last decade of his
    career, because there's invariably illegal Waste/Fraud/Abuse within. Refusal by Tommy
    to comply also reveals Tommy as a hypocrite, for saying one thing while doing another.

    -hh

    Do you libtards REALLY think that Lyin' Biden's disrespecting of Gold Star families is wise? REALLY???

    And not just disrespecting them, but LYING to them. This senile pervert is a jerk of the FIRST ORDER who treats subordinate in a manner that he declared he would FIRE anybody doing the same ON THE SPOT!!!
    https://www.axios.com/2023/07/10/biden-temper-us-president
    This is a big part of the reason why the senile pervert STINKS in the polls and TWO THIRD of Americans don't want him to run again.

    BTW you idiots can "demand" anything you want - getting it is a different matter altogether. I can demand that you demonstrate common sense expected of a government employee, but I SURE DON'T expect that to happen.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Tommy on Thu Aug 10 18:49:42 2023
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 9:21:35 PM UTC-4, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:15:19 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 10:45, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 6:48:55 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:12:30 AM UTC-4, Tommy wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI



    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE?????
    Those families lacked both the required Security Clearance and a
    Need-to-Know ...right? As military families they should have long
    ago learned that there's Operational priorities which will always
    deny them full transparency. If their children didn't educate them
    of this before their deployment, that's on the family, not the
    Service.

    Plus another question is when were they told that Trump had already >> reduced the total troop count to under 2,500 before Jan 20th which
    jeopardized their physical security long before Biden took office?
    That was Open Literature, so there's no excuse for them to have
    been ignorant of it. Ditto how Trump had previously negotiated a
    withdrawal timeline: also Open Literature.

    The truly sad part is that these families were then exploited by
    Republicans for petty artisan political gain.


    Pure LIBTARD BULLSHIT EXCUSES!

    Nope: it is an understanding of, and compliance with Federal Security Regulations,
    a topic which Tommy has failed to demonstrate knowledge & mastery of.
    They could have been EASILY granted security clearances for that specific
    event - Lyin' Biden has the POWER to do that.
    False; authority to grant security clearances lies here in DoD, not the Executive Branch.
    Biden could order declassification, but that opens it up to everyone, including our enemies.
    This wasn't done STRICTLY
    because it would have EMBARRASSED the senile pervert.

    "Could have"? Sure.
    If Tommy could actually prove that claim, he would finally have proof of an actual
    crime perpetrated by Biden ... but that also assumes that Biden was the OCA, not
    the DoD, which doesn't make sense since it was a DoD Operation: the SCG and OCA
    would reside within DoD, not the Executive Branch. "Strike 2" and "Strike 3" on Tommy
    demonstrating a lack of knowledge on Fed Security Regulations just within this thread.
    But do you think that's actually wise; just granting security clearances to anyone who's had a family member die in the line of duty?
    Particularly since Tommy's apparently trying to ask for things which they do not
    have a clear "Need to Know" even if they did have the appropriate Security Clearance.
    "Strike 4".
    You can't see anything problematic with that, can you, Sunshine?
    Tommy apparently believes that every private citizen has an inalienable right
    just because they have a personal curiosity to know absolutely every last thing
    that's going on in the Federal government at all levels, down to and including
    what time each employee takes bathroom break & how much urine discharged.

    Tommy's problem is that needs to turn himself around to realize that the same principle
    he's demanding for this release also has to apply to every minute that he was working
    which was paid (directly & indirectly) by the Government, because “What's sauce for the
    goose is sauce for the gander.” As a US citizen, I hereby demand that Tommy publish his
    own timekeeping accounting here immediately and without delay for the last decade of his
    career, because there's invariably illegal Waste/Fraud/Abuse within. Refusal by Tommy
    to comply also reveals Tommy as a hypocrite, for saying one thing while doing another.

    Do you libtards REALLY think that Lyin' Biden's disrespecting of Gold Star families is wise? REALLY???

    You've not shown that that has happened.


    And not just disrespecting them, but LYING to them.

    Just what "lie", specifically?


    BTW you idiots can "demand" anything you want - getting it is a different matter altogether.

    Cry harder ... its only your own poor reputation that you're making worse.

    I can demand that you demonstrate common sense expected of a government employee, but
    I SURE DON'T expect that to happen.

    And if you were still employed, I would have already reported your ass to the BPPE.


    -hh

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Fri Aug 11 09:44:56 2023
    On 2023-08-10 18:21, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:15:19 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 10:45, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 6:48:55 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:12:30 AM UTC-4, Tommy
    wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI





    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE?????
    Those families lacked both the required Security Clearance
    and a Need-to-Know ...right? As military families they should
    have long ago learned that there's Operational priorities
    which will always deny them full transparency. If their
    children didn't educate them of this before their deployment,
    that's on the family, not the Service.

    Plus another question is when were they told that Trump had
    already reduced the total troop count to under 2,500 before
    Jan 20th which jeopardized their physical security long
    before Biden took office? That was Open Literature, so
    there's no excuse for them to have been ignorant of it. Ditto
    how Trump had previously negotiated a withdrawal timeline:
    also Open Literature.

    The truly sad part is that these families were then exploited
    by Republicans for petty artisan political gain.


    Pure LIBTARD BULLSHIT EXCUSES!

    Nope: it is an understanding of, and compliance with Federal
    Security Regulations, a topic which Tommy has failed to demonstrate
    knowledge & mastery of.
    They could have been EASILY granted security clearances for
    that specific event - Lyin' Biden has the POWER to do that.
    False; authority to grant security clearances lies here in DoD, not
    the Executive Branch. Biden could order declassification, but that
    opens it up to everyone, including our enemies.
    This wasn't done STRICTLY because it would have EMBARRASSED the
    senile pervert.

    "Could have"? Sure.
    If Tommy could actually prove that claim, he would finally have
    proof of an actual crime perpetrated by Biden ... but that also
    assumes that Biden was the OCA, not the DoD, which doesn't make
    sense since it was a DoD Operation: the SCG and OCA would reside
    within DoD, not the Executive Branch. "Strike 2" and "Strike 3" on
    Tommy demonstrating a lack of knowledge on Fed Security Regulations
    just within this thread.
    But do you think that's actually wise; just granting security
    clearances to anyone who's had a family member die in the line of
    duty?
    Particularly since Tommy's apparently trying to ask for things
    which they do not have a clear "Need to Know" even if they did have
    the appropriate Security Clearance. "Strike 4".
    You can't see anything problematic with that, can you, Sunshine?
    Tommy apparently believes that every private citizen has an
    inalienable right just because they have a personal curiosity to
    know absolutely every last thing that's going on in the Federal
    government at all levels, down to and including what time each
    employee takes bathroom break & how much urine discharged.

    Tommy's problem is that needs to turn himself around to realize
    that the same principle he's demanding for this release also has to
    apply to every minute that he was working which was paid (directly
    & indirectly) by the Government, because “What's sauce for the
    goose is sauce for the gander.” As a US citizen, I hereby demand
    that Tommy publish his own timekeeping accounting here immediately
    and without delay for the last decade of his career, because
    there's invariably illegal Waste/Fraud/Abuse within. Refusal by
    Tommy to comply also reveals Tommy as a hypocrite, for saying one
    thing while doing another.

    -hh

    Do you libtards REALLY think that Lyin' Biden's disrespecting of Gold
    Star families is wise? REALLY???

    I don't believe you've shown that.

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat Aug 12 21:18:38 2023
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:44:59 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 18:21, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:15:19 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 10:45, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 6:48:55 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:12:30 AM UTC-4, Tommy
    wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI





    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE?????
    Those families lacked both the required Security Clearance
    and a Need-to-Know ...right? As military families they should
    have long ago learned that there's Operational priorities
    which will always deny them full transparency. If their
    children didn't educate them of this before their deployment,
    that's on the family, not the Service.

    Plus another question is when were they told that Trump had
    already reduced the total troop count to under 2,500 before
    Jan 20th which jeopardized their physical security long
    before Biden took office? That was Open Literature, so
    there's no excuse for them to have been ignorant of it. Ditto
    how Trump had previously negotiated a withdrawal timeline:
    also Open Literature.

    The truly sad part is that these families were then exploited
    by Republicans for petty artisan political gain.


    Pure LIBTARD BULLSHIT EXCUSES!

    Nope: it is an understanding of, and compliance with Federal
    Security Regulations, a topic which Tommy has failed to demonstrate
    knowledge & mastery of.
    They could have been EASILY granted security clearances for
    that specific event - Lyin' Biden has the POWER to do that.
    False; authority to grant security clearances lies here in DoD, not
    the Executive Branch. Biden could order declassification, but that
    opens it up to everyone, including our enemies.
    This wasn't done STRICTLY because it would have EMBARRASSED the
    senile pervert.

    "Could have"? Sure.
    If Tommy could actually prove that claim, he would finally have
    proof of an actual crime perpetrated by Biden ... but that also
    assumes that Biden was the OCA, not the DoD, which doesn't make
    sense since it was a DoD Operation: the SCG and OCA would reside
    within DoD, not the Executive Branch. "Strike 2" and "Strike 3" on
    Tommy demonstrating a lack of knowledge on Fed Security Regulations
    just within this thread.
    But do you think that's actually wise; just granting security
    clearances to anyone who's had a family member die in the line of
    duty?
    Particularly since Tommy's apparently trying to ask for things
    which they do not have a clear "Need to Know" even if they did have
    the appropriate Security Clearance. "Strike 4".
    You can't see anything problematic with that, can you, Sunshine?
    Tommy apparently believes that every private citizen has an
    inalienable right just because they have a personal curiosity to
    know absolutely every last thing that's going on in the Federal
    government at all levels, down to and including what time each
    employee takes bathroom break & how much urine discharged.

    Tommy's problem is that needs to turn himself around to realize
    that the same principle he's demanding for this release also has to
    apply to every minute that he was working which was paid (directly
    & indirectly) by the Government, because “What's sauce for the
    goose is sauce for the gander.” As a US citizen, I hereby demand
    that Tommy publish his own timekeeping accounting here immediately
    and without delay for the last decade of his career, because
    there's invariably illegal Waste/Fraud/Abuse within. Refusal by
    Tommy to comply also reveals Tommy as a hypocrite, for saying one
    thing while doing another.

    -hh

    Do you libtards REALLY think that Lyin' Biden's disrespecting of Gold
    Star families is wise? REALLY???
    I don't believe you've shown that.

    LOL! What would it take to make you believe that?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Sat Aug 12 21:20:13 2023
    On 2023-08-12 21:18, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:44:59 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 18:21, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:15:19 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 10:45, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 6:48:55 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:12:30 AM UTC-4, Tommy
    wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI





    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE?????
    Those families lacked both the required Security Clearance
    and a Need-to-Know ...right? As military families they should
    have long ago learned that there's Operational priorities
    which will always deny them full transparency. If their
    children didn't educate them of this before their deployment,
    that's on the family, not the Service.

    Plus another question is when were they told that Trump had
    already reduced the total troop count to under 2,500 before
    Jan 20th which jeopardized their physical security long
    before Biden took office? That was Open Literature, so
    there's no excuse for them to have been ignorant of it. Ditto
    how Trump had previously negotiated a withdrawal timeline:
    also Open Literature.

    The truly sad part is that these families were then exploited
    by Republicans for petty artisan political gain.


    Pure LIBTARD BULLSHIT EXCUSES!

    Nope: it is an understanding of, and compliance with Federal
    Security Regulations, a topic which Tommy has failed to demonstrate
    knowledge & mastery of.
    They could have been EASILY granted security clearances for
    that specific event - Lyin' Biden has the POWER to do that.
    False; authority to grant security clearances lies here in DoD, not
    the Executive Branch. Biden could order declassification, but that
    opens it up to everyone, including our enemies.
    This wasn't done STRICTLY because it would have EMBARRASSED the
    senile pervert.

    "Could have"? Sure.
    If Tommy could actually prove that claim, he would finally have
    proof of an actual crime perpetrated by Biden ... but that also
    assumes that Biden was the OCA, not the DoD, which doesn't make
    sense since it was a DoD Operation: the SCG and OCA would reside
    within DoD, not the Executive Branch. "Strike 2" and "Strike 3" on
    Tommy demonstrating a lack of knowledge on Fed Security Regulations
    just within this thread.
    But do you think that's actually wise; just granting security
    clearances to anyone who's had a family member die in the line of
    duty?
    Particularly since Tommy's apparently trying to ask for things
    which they do not have a clear "Need to Know" even if they did have
    the appropriate Security Clearance. "Strike 4".
    You can't see anything problematic with that, can you, Sunshine?
    Tommy apparently believes that every private citizen has an
    inalienable right just because they have a personal curiosity to
    know absolutely every last thing that's going on in the Federal
    government at all levels, down to and including what time each
    employee takes bathroom break & how much urine discharged.

    Tommy's problem is that needs to turn himself around to realize
    that the same principle he's demanding for this release also has to
    apply to every minute that he was working which was paid (directly
    & indirectly) by the Government, because “What's sauce for the
    goose is sauce for the gander.” As a US citizen, I hereby demand
    that Tommy publish his own timekeeping accounting here immediately
    and without delay for the last decade of his career, because
    there's invariably illegal Waste/Fraud/Abuse within. Refusal by
    Tommy to comply also reveals Tommy as a hypocrite, for saying one
    thing while doing another.

    -hh

    Do you libtards REALLY think that Lyin' Biden's disrespecting of Gold
    Star families is wise? REALLY???
    I don't believe you've shown that.

    LOL! What would it take to make you believe that?

    The actual quotes would be a good start.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat Aug 12 21:35:40 2023
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:20:23 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:18, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:44:59 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 18:21, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:15:19 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 10:45, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 6:48:55 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote: >>>>>>> On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:12:30 AM UTC-4, Tommy
    wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI





    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE?????
    Those families lacked both the required Security Clearance
    and a Need-to-Know ...right? As military families they should >>>>>>> have long ago learned that there's Operational priorities
    which will always deny them full transparency. If their
    children didn't educate them of this before their deployment, >>>>>>> that's on the family, not the Service.

    Plus another question is when were they told that Trump had
    already reduced the total troop count to under 2,500 before
    Jan 20th which jeopardized their physical security long
    before Biden took office? That was Open Literature, so
    there's no excuse for them to have been ignorant of it. Ditto >>>>>>> how Trump had previously negotiated a withdrawal timeline:
    also Open Literature.

    The truly sad part is that these families were then exploited >>>>>>> by Republicans for petty artisan political gain.


    Pure LIBTARD BULLSHIT EXCUSES!

    Nope: it is an understanding of, and compliance with Federal
    Security Regulations, a topic which Tommy has failed to demonstrate >>>> knowledge & mastery of.
    They could have been EASILY granted security clearances for
    that specific event - Lyin' Biden has the POWER to do that.
    False; authority to grant security clearances lies here in DoD, not >>>> the Executive Branch. Biden could order declassification, but that
    opens it up to everyone, including our enemies.
    This wasn't done STRICTLY because it would have EMBARRASSED the >>>>>> senile pervert.

    "Could have"? Sure.
    If Tommy could actually prove that claim, he would finally have
    proof of an actual crime perpetrated by Biden ... but that also
    assumes that Biden was the OCA, not the DoD, which doesn't make
    sense since it was a DoD Operation: the SCG and OCA would reside
    within DoD, not the Executive Branch. "Strike 2" and "Strike 3" on
    Tommy demonstrating a lack of knowledge on Fed Security Regulations >>>> just within this thread.
    But do you think that's actually wise; just granting security
    clearances to anyone who's had a family member die in the line of >>>>> duty?
    Particularly since Tommy's apparently trying to ask for things
    which they do not have a clear "Need to Know" even if they did have >>>> the appropriate Security Clearance. "Strike 4".
    You can't see anything problematic with that, can you, Sunshine?
    Tommy apparently believes that every private citizen has an
    inalienable right just because they have a personal curiosity to
    know absolutely every last thing that's going on in the Federal
    government at all levels, down to and including what time each
    employee takes bathroom break & how much urine discharged.

    Tommy's problem is that needs to turn himself around to realize
    that the same principle he's demanding for this release also has to >>>> apply to every minute that he was working which was paid (directly
    & indirectly) by the Government, because “What's sauce for the
    goose is sauce for the gander.” As a US citizen, I hereby demand
    that Tommy publish his own timekeeping accounting here immediately
    and without delay for the last decade of his career, because
    there's invariably illegal Waste/Fraud/Abuse within. Refusal by
    Tommy to comply also reveals Tommy as a hypocrite, for saying one
    thing while doing another.

    -hh

    Do you libtards REALLY think that Lyin' Biden's disrespecting of Gold >>> Star families is wise? REALLY???
    I don't believe you've shown that.

    LOL! What would it take to make you believe that?
    The actual quotes would be a good start.

    Well, it is obvious that you didn't even read the referenced article, Fool. For example:

    "The lies, given incomplete reports, incorrect reports, total disrespect," Barnett said during her emotional recollection Monday. "There were gunshots. All I wanted to know [was] where my kid was, where he fell, how long did he last? Did he fight?"

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Sat Aug 12 22:07:01 2023
    On 2023-08-12 21:35, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:20:23 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:18, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:44:59 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 18:21, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:15:19 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 10:45, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 6:48:55 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:12:30 AM UTC-4, Tommy
    wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI





    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE?????
    Those families lacked both the required Security Clearance
    and a Need-to-Know ...right? As military families they should >>>>>>>>> have long ago learned that there's Operational priorities
    which will always deny them full transparency. If their
    children didn't educate them of this before their deployment, >>>>>>>>> that's on the family, not the Service.

    Plus another question is when were they told that Trump had
    already reduced the total troop count to under 2,500 before
    Jan 20th which jeopardized their physical security long
    before Biden took office? That was Open Literature, so
    there's no excuse for them to have been ignorant of it. Ditto >>>>>>>>> how Trump had previously negotiated a withdrawal timeline:
    also Open Literature.

    The truly sad part is that these families were then exploited >>>>>>>>> by Republicans for petty artisan political gain.


    Pure LIBTARD BULLSHIT EXCUSES!

    Nope: it is an understanding of, and compliance with Federal
    Security Regulations, a topic which Tommy has failed to demonstrate >>>>>> knowledge & mastery of.
    They could have been EASILY granted security clearances for
    that specific event - Lyin' Biden has the POWER to do that.
    False; authority to grant security clearances lies here in DoD, not >>>>>> the Executive Branch. Biden could order declassification, but that >>>>>> opens it up to everyone, including our enemies.
    This wasn't done STRICTLY because it would have EMBARRASSED the >>>>>>>> senile pervert.

    "Could have"? Sure.
    If Tommy could actually prove that claim, he would finally have
    proof of an actual crime perpetrated by Biden ... but that also
    assumes that Biden was the OCA, not the DoD, which doesn't make
    sense since it was a DoD Operation: the SCG and OCA would reside
    within DoD, not the Executive Branch. "Strike 2" and "Strike 3" on >>>>>> Tommy demonstrating a lack of knowledge on Fed Security Regulations >>>>>> just within this thread.
    But do you think that's actually wise; just granting security
    clearances to anyone who's had a family member die in the line of >>>>>>> duty?
    Particularly since Tommy's apparently trying to ask for things
    which they do not have a clear "Need to Know" even if they did have >>>>>> the appropriate Security Clearance. "Strike 4".
    You can't see anything problematic with that, can you, Sunshine?
    Tommy apparently believes that every private citizen has an
    inalienable right just because they have a personal curiosity to
    know absolutely every last thing that's going on in the Federal
    government at all levels, down to and including what time each
    employee takes bathroom break & how much urine discharged.

    Tommy's problem is that needs to turn himself around to realize
    that the same principle he's demanding for this release also has to >>>>>> apply to every minute that he was working which was paid (directly >>>>>> & indirectly) by the Government, because “What's sauce for the
    goose is sauce for the gander.” As a US citizen, I hereby demand >>>>>> that Tommy publish his own timekeeping accounting here immediately >>>>>> and without delay for the last decade of his career, because
    there's invariably illegal Waste/Fraud/Abuse within. Refusal by
    Tommy to comply also reveals Tommy as a hypocrite, for saying one
    thing while doing another.

    -hh

    Do you libtards REALLY think that Lyin' Biden's disrespecting of Gold >>>>> Star families is wise? REALLY???
    I don't believe you've shown that.

    LOL! What would it take to make you believe that?
    The actual quotes would be a good start.

    Well, it is obvious that you didn't even read the referenced article, Fool. For example:

    "The lies, given incomplete reports, incorrect reports, total disrespect," Barnett said during her emotional recollection Monday. "There were gunshots. All I wanted to know [was] where my kid was, where he fell, how long did he last? Did he fight?"

    So that's a claim of "lies"....

    ...but no actual statement of what was supposedly lied about.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun Aug 13 11:24:44 2023
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:07:05 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:35, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:20:23 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:18, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:44:59 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 18:21, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:15:19 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote: >>>>>>> On 2023-08-10 10:45, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 6:48:55 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:12:30 AM UTC-4, Tommy >>>>>>>>> wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI





    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE?????
    Those families lacked both the required Security Clearance >>>>>>>>> and a Need-to-Know ...right? As military families they should >>>>>>>>> have long ago learned that there's Operational priorities >>>>>>>>> which will always deny them full transparency. If their
    children didn't educate them of this before their deployment, >>>>>>>>> that's on the family, not the Service.

    Plus another question is when were they told that Trump had >>>>>>>>> already reduced the total troop count to under 2,500 before >>>>>>>>> Jan 20th which jeopardized their physical security long
    before Biden took office? That was Open Literature, so
    there's no excuse for them to have been ignorant of it. Ditto >>>>>>>>> how Trump had previously negotiated a withdrawal timeline: >>>>>>>>> also Open Literature.

    The truly sad part is that these families were then exploited >>>>>>>>> by Republicans for petty artisan political gain.


    Pure LIBTARD BULLSHIT EXCUSES!

    Nope: it is an understanding of, and compliance with Federal
    Security Regulations, a topic which Tommy has failed to demonstrate >>>>>> knowledge & mastery of.
    They could have been EASILY granted security clearances for >>>>>>>> that specific event - Lyin' Biden has the POWER to do that.
    False; authority to grant security clearances lies here in DoD, not >>>>>> the Executive Branch. Biden could order declassification, but that >>>>>> opens it up to everyone, including our enemies.
    This wasn't done STRICTLY because it would have EMBARRASSED the >>>>>>>> senile pervert.

    "Could have"? Sure.
    If Tommy could actually prove that claim, he would finally have >>>>>> proof of an actual crime perpetrated by Biden ... but that also >>>>>> assumes that Biden was the OCA, not the DoD, which doesn't make >>>>>> sense since it was a DoD Operation: the SCG and OCA would reside >>>>>> within DoD, not the Executive Branch. "Strike 2" and "Strike 3" on >>>>>> Tommy demonstrating a lack of knowledge on Fed Security Regulations >>>>>> just within this thread.
    But do you think that's actually wise; just granting security >>>>>>> clearances to anyone who's had a family member die in the line of >>>>>>> duty?
    Particularly since Tommy's apparently trying to ask for things
    which they do not have a clear "Need to Know" even if they did have >>>>>> the appropriate Security Clearance. "Strike 4".
    You can't see anything problematic with that, can you, Sunshine? >>>>>> Tommy apparently believes that every private citizen has an
    inalienable right just because they have a personal curiosity to >>>>>> know absolutely every last thing that's going on in the Federal >>>>>> government at all levels, down to and including what time each
    employee takes bathroom break & how much urine discharged.

    Tommy's problem is that needs to turn himself around to realize >>>>>> that the same principle he's demanding for this release also has to >>>>>> apply to every minute that he was working which was paid (directly >>>>>> & indirectly) by the Government, because “What's sauce for the >>>>>> goose is sauce for the gander.” As a US citizen, I hereby demand >>>>>> that Tommy publish his own timekeeping accounting here immediately >>>>>> and without delay for the last decade of his career, because
    there's invariably illegal Waste/Fraud/Abuse within. Refusal by >>>>>> Tommy to comply also reveals Tommy as a hypocrite, for saying one >>>>>> thing while doing another.

    -hh

    Do you libtards REALLY think that Lyin' Biden's disrespecting of Gold >>>>> Star families is wise? REALLY???
    I don't believe you've shown that.

    LOL! What would it take to make you believe that?
    The actual quotes would be a good start.

    Well, it is obvious that you didn't even read the referenced article, Fool. For example:

    "The lies, given incomplete reports, incorrect reports, total disrespect," Barnett said during her emotional recollection Monday. "There were gunshots. All I wanted to know [was] where my kid was, where he fell, how long did he last? Did he fight?"
    So that's a claim of "lies"....

    ...but no actual statement of what was supposedly lied about.

    Did Lyin' Biden DISRESPECT these Gold Star Families, yes or no?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Sun Aug 13 11:43:38 2023
    On 2023-08-13 11:24, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:07:05 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:35, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:20:23 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:18, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:44:59 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 18:21, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:15:19 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2023-08-10 10:45, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 6:48:55 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:12:30 AM UTC-4, Tommy >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI





    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE?????
    Those families lacked both the required Security Clearance >>>>>>>>>>> and a Need-to-Know ...right? As military families they should >>>>>>>>>>> have long ago learned that there's Operational priorities >>>>>>>>>>> which will always deny them full transparency. If their
    children didn't educate them of this before their deployment, >>>>>>>>>>> that's on the family, not the Service.

    Plus another question is when were they told that Trump had >>>>>>>>>>> already reduced the total troop count to under 2,500 before >>>>>>>>>>> Jan 20th which jeopardized their physical security long
    before Biden took office? That was Open Literature, so
    there's no excuse for them to have been ignorant of it. Ditto >>>>>>>>>>> how Trump had previously negotiated a withdrawal timeline: >>>>>>>>>>> also Open Literature.

    The truly sad part is that these families were then exploited >>>>>>>>>>> by Republicans for petty artisan political gain.


    Pure LIBTARD BULLSHIT EXCUSES!

    Nope: it is an understanding of, and compliance with Federal
    Security Regulations, a topic which Tommy has failed to demonstrate >>>>>>>> knowledge & mastery of.
    They could have been EASILY granted security clearances for >>>>>>>>>> that specific event - Lyin' Biden has the POWER to do that.
    False; authority to grant security clearances lies here in DoD, not >>>>>>>> the Executive Branch. Biden could order declassification, but that >>>>>>>> opens it up to everyone, including our enemies.
    This wasn't done STRICTLY because it would have EMBARRASSED the >>>>>>>>>> senile pervert.

    "Could have"? Sure.
    If Tommy could actually prove that claim, he would finally have >>>>>>>> proof of an actual crime perpetrated by Biden ... but that also >>>>>>>> assumes that Biden was the OCA, not the DoD, which doesn't make >>>>>>>> sense since it was a DoD Operation: the SCG and OCA would reside >>>>>>>> within DoD, not the Executive Branch. "Strike 2" and "Strike 3" on >>>>>>>> Tommy demonstrating a lack of knowledge on Fed Security Regulations >>>>>>>> just within this thread.
    But do you think that's actually wise; just granting security >>>>>>>>> clearances to anyone who's had a family member die in the line of >>>>>>>>> duty?
    Particularly since Tommy's apparently trying to ask for things >>>>>>>> which they do not have a clear "Need to Know" even if they did have >>>>>>>> the appropriate Security Clearance. "Strike 4".
    You can't see anything problematic with that, can you, Sunshine? >>>>>>>> Tommy apparently believes that every private citizen has an
    inalienable right just because they have a personal curiosity to >>>>>>>> know absolutely every last thing that's going on in the Federal >>>>>>>> government at all levels, down to and including what time each >>>>>>>> employee takes bathroom break & how much urine discharged.

    Tommy's problem is that needs to turn himself around to realize >>>>>>>> that the same principle he's demanding for this release also has to >>>>>>>> apply to every minute that he was working which was paid (directly >>>>>>>> & indirectly) by the Government, because “What's sauce for the >>>>>>>> goose is sauce for the gander.” As a US citizen, I hereby demand >>>>>>>> that Tommy publish his own timekeeping accounting here immediately >>>>>>>> and without delay for the last decade of his career, because
    there's invariably illegal Waste/Fraud/Abuse within. Refusal by >>>>>>>> Tommy to comply also reveals Tommy as a hypocrite, for saying one >>>>>>>> thing while doing another.

    -hh

    Do you libtards REALLY think that Lyin' Biden's disrespecting of Gold >>>>>>> Star families is wise? REALLY???
    I don't believe you've shown that.

    LOL! What would it take to make you believe that?
    The actual quotes would be a good start.

    Well, it is obvious that you didn't even read the referenced article, Fool. For example:

    "The lies, given incomplete reports, incorrect reports, total disrespect," Barnett said during her emotional recollection Monday. "There were gunshots. All I wanted to know [was] where my kid was, where he fell, how long did he last? Did he fight?"
    So that's a claim of "lies"....

    ...but no actual statement of what was supposedly lied about.

    Did Lyin' Biden DISRESPECT these Gold Star Families, yes or no?

    I don't know.

    What I DO know is that you won't show anything that represents and
    example of the "DISRESPECT" you claim happened.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Aug 14 19:51:44 2023
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:43:41 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-13 11:24, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:07:05 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:35, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:20:23 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:18, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:44:59 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 18:21, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote: >>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:15:19 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2023-08-10 10:45, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 6:48:55 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:12:30 AM UTC-4, Tommy >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI





    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE?????
    Those families lacked both the required Security Clearance >>>>>>>>>>> and a Need-to-Know ...right? As military families they should >>>>>>>>>>> have long ago learned that there's Operational priorities >>>>>>>>>>> which will always deny them full transparency. If their >>>>>>>>>>> children didn't educate them of this before their deployment, >>>>>>>>>>> that's on the family, not the Service.

    Plus another question is when were they told that Trump had >>>>>>>>>>> already reduced the total troop count to under 2,500 before >>>>>>>>>>> Jan 20th which jeopardized their physical security long >>>>>>>>>>> before Biden took office? That was Open Literature, so >>>>>>>>>>> there's no excuse for them to have been ignorant of it. Ditto >>>>>>>>>>> how Trump had previously negotiated a withdrawal timeline: >>>>>>>>>>> also Open Literature.

    The truly sad part is that these families were then exploited >>>>>>>>>>> by Republicans for petty artisan political gain.


    Pure LIBTARD BULLSHIT EXCUSES!

    Nope: it is an understanding of, and compliance with Federal >>>>>>>> Security Regulations, a topic which Tommy has failed to demonstrate >>>>>>>> knowledge & mastery of.
    They could have been EASILY granted security clearances for >>>>>>>>>> that specific event - Lyin' Biden has the POWER to do that. >>>>>>>> False; authority to grant security clearances lies here in DoD, not >>>>>>>> the Executive Branch. Biden could order declassification, but that >>>>>>>> opens it up to everyone, including our enemies.
    This wasn't done STRICTLY because it would have EMBARRASSED the >>>>>>>>>> senile pervert.

    "Could have"? Sure.
    If Tommy could actually prove that claim, he would finally have >>>>>>>> proof of an actual crime perpetrated by Biden ... but that also >>>>>>>> assumes that Biden was the OCA, not the DoD, which doesn't make >>>>>>>> sense since it was a DoD Operation: the SCG and OCA would reside >>>>>>>> within DoD, not the Executive Branch. "Strike 2" and "Strike 3" on >>>>>>>> Tommy demonstrating a lack of knowledge on Fed Security Regulations >>>>>>>> just within this thread.
    But do you think that's actually wise; just granting security >>>>>>>>> clearances to anyone who's had a family member die in the line of >>>>>>>>> duty?
    Particularly since Tommy's apparently trying to ask for things >>>>>>>> which they do not have a clear "Need to Know" even if they did have >>>>>>>> the appropriate Security Clearance. "Strike 4".
    You can't see anything problematic with that, can you, Sunshine? >>>>>>>> Tommy apparently believes that every private citizen has an >>>>>>>> inalienable right just because they have a personal curiosity to >>>>>>>> know absolutely every last thing that's going on in the Federal >>>>>>>> government at all levels, down to and including what time each >>>>>>>> employee takes bathroom break & how much urine discharged.

    Tommy's problem is that needs to turn himself around to realize >>>>>>>> that the same principle he's demanding for this release also has to >>>>>>>> apply to every minute that he was working which was paid (directly >>>>>>>> & indirectly) by the Government, because “What's sauce for the >>>>>>>> goose is sauce for the gander.” As a US citizen, I hereby demand >>>>>>>> that Tommy publish his own timekeeping accounting here immediately >>>>>>>> and without delay for the last decade of his career, because >>>>>>>> there's invariably illegal Waste/Fraud/Abuse within. Refusal by >>>>>>>> Tommy to comply also reveals Tommy as a hypocrite, for saying one >>>>>>>> thing while doing another.

    -hh

    Do you libtards REALLY think that Lyin' Biden's disrespecting of Gold
    Star families is wise? REALLY???
    I don't believe you've shown that.

    LOL! What would it take to make you believe that?
    The actual quotes would be a good start.

    Well, it is obvious that you didn't even read the referenced article, Fool. For example:

    "The lies, given incomplete reports, incorrect reports, total disrespect," Barnett said during her emotional recollection Monday. "There were gunshots. All I wanted to know [was] where my kid was, where he fell, how long did he last? Did he fight?"
    So that's a claim of "lies"....

    ...but no actual statement of what was supposedly lied about.

    Did Lyin' Biden DISRESPECT these Gold Star Families, yes or no?
    I don't know.

    What I DO know is that you won't show anything that represents and
    example of the "DISRESPECT" you claim happened.

    You asked for a quote and I gave you a quote of the families stating that Lyin' Biden disrespected them by, for one thing, lying to them - that sure is an example, is it not?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Mon Aug 14 22:27:03 2023
    On 2023-08-14 19:51, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:43:41 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-13 11:24, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:07:05 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:35, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:20:23 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:18, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:44:59 AM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 18:21, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-7, -hh
    wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:15:19 PM UTC-4,
    Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 10:45, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 6:48:55 AM
    UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:12:30 AM
    UTC-4, Tommy wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI







    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE?????
    Those families lacked both the required
    Security Clearance and a Need-to-Know
    ...right? As military families they should
    have long ago learned that there's
    Operational priorities which will always deny
    them full transparency. If their children
    didn't educate them of this before their
    deployment, that's on the family, not the
    Service.

    Plus another question is when were they told
    that Trump had already reduced the total
    troop count to under 2,500 before Jan 20th
    which jeopardized their physical security
    long before Biden took office? That was Open
    Literature, so there's no excuse for them to
    have been ignorant of it. Ditto how Trump had
    previously negotiated a withdrawal timeline:
    also Open Literature.

    The truly sad part is that these families
    were then exploited by Republicans for petty
    artisan political gain.


    Pure LIBTARD BULLSHIT EXCUSES!

    Nope: it is an understanding of, and compliance
    with Federal Security Regulations, a topic which
    Tommy has failed to demonstrate knowledge & mastery
    of.
    They could have been EASILY granted security
    clearances for that specific event - Lyin'
    Biden has the POWER to do that.
    False; authority to grant security clearances lies
    here in DoD, not the Executive Branch. Biden could
    order declassification, but that opens it up to
    everyone, including our enemies.
    This wasn't done STRICTLY because it would have
    EMBARRASSED the senile pervert.

    "Could have"? Sure.
    If Tommy could actually prove that claim, he would
    finally have proof of an actual crime perpetrated
    by Biden ... but that also assumes that Biden was
    the OCA, not the DoD, which doesn't make sense
    since it was a DoD Operation: the SCG and OCA would
    reside within DoD, not the Executive Branch.
    "Strike 2" and "Strike 3" on Tommy demonstrating a
    lack of knowledge on Fed Security Regulations just
    within this thread.
    But do you think that's actually wise; just
    granting security clearances to anyone who's had
    a family member die in the line of duty?
    Particularly since Tommy's apparently trying to ask
    for things which they do not have a clear "Need to
    Know" even if they did have the appropriate
    Security Clearance. "Strike 4".
    You can't see anything problematic with that, can
    you, Sunshine?
    Tommy apparently believes that every private
    citizen has an inalienable right just because they
    have a personal curiosity to know absolutely every
    last thing that's going on in the Federal
    government at all levels, down to and including
    what time each employee takes bathroom break & how
    much urine discharged.

    Tommy's problem is that needs to turn himself
    around to realize that the same principle he's
    demanding for this release also has to apply to
    every minute that he was working which was paid
    (directly & indirectly) by the Government, because
    “What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the
    gander.” As a US citizen, I hereby demand that
    Tommy publish his own timekeeping accounting here
    immediately and without delay for the last decade
    of his career, because there's invariably illegal
    Waste/Fraud/Abuse within. Refusal by Tommy to
    comply also reveals Tommy as a hypocrite, for
    saying one thing while doing another.

    -hh

    Do you libtards REALLY think that Lyin' Biden's
    disrespecting of Gold Star families is wise?
    REALLY???
    I don't believe you've shown that.

    LOL! What would it take to make you believe that?
    The actual quotes would be a good start.

    Well, it is obvious that you didn't even read the referenced
    article, Fool. For example:

    "The lies, given incomplete reports, incorrect reports, total
    disrespect," Barnett said during her emotional recollection
    Monday. "There were gunshots. All I wanted to know [was]
    where my kid was, where he fell, how long did he last? Did he
    fight?"
    So that's a claim of "lies"....

    ...but no actual statement of what was supposedly lied about.

    Did Lyin' Biden DISRESPECT these Gold Star Families, yes or no?
    I don't know.

    What I DO know is that you won't show anything that represents and
    example of the "DISRESPECT" you claim happened.

    You asked for a quote and I gave you a quote of the families stating
    that Lyin' Biden disrespected them by, for one thing, lying to them -
    that sure is an example, is it not?


    No, Sunshine.

    I asked you for a quote that showed a LIE.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Aug 15 15:39:41 2023
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:27:10 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-14 19:51, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:43:41 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-13 11:24, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:07:05 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:35, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:20:23 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:18, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:44:59 AM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 18:21, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-7, -hh
    wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:15:19 PM UTC-4,
    Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 10:45, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 6:48:55 AM
    UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:12:30 AM
    UTC-4, Tommy wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI







    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE?????
    Those families lacked both the required
    Security Clearance and a Need-to-Know
    ...right? As military families they should
    have long ago learned that there's
    Operational priorities which will always deny
    them full transparency. If their children
    didn't educate them of this before their
    deployment, that's on the family, not the
    Service.

    Plus another question is when were they told
    that Trump had already reduced the total
    troop count to under 2,500 before Jan 20th
    which jeopardized their physical security
    long before Biden took office? That was Open
    Literature, so there's no excuse for them to
    have been ignorant of it. Ditto how Trump had
    previously negotiated a withdrawal timeline:
    also Open Literature.

    The truly sad part is that these families
    were then exploited by Republicans for petty
    artisan political gain.


    Pure LIBTARD BULLSHIT EXCUSES!

    Nope: it is an understanding of, and compliance
    with Federal Security Regulations, a topic which
    Tommy has failed to demonstrate knowledge & mastery
    of.
    They could have been EASILY granted security
    clearances for that specific event - Lyin'
    Biden has the POWER to do that.
    False; authority to grant security clearances lies
    here in DoD, not the Executive Branch. Biden could
    order declassification, but that opens it up to
    everyone, including our enemies.
    This wasn't done STRICTLY because it would have
    EMBARRASSED the senile pervert.

    "Could have"? Sure.
    If Tommy could actually prove that claim, he would
    finally have proof of an actual crime perpetrated
    by Biden ... but that also assumes that Biden was
    the OCA, not the DoD, which doesn't make sense
    since it was a DoD Operation: the SCG and OCA would
    reside within DoD, not the Executive Branch.
    "Strike 2" and "Strike 3" on Tommy demonstrating a
    lack of knowledge on Fed Security Regulations just
    within this thread.
    But do you think that's actually wise; just
    granting security clearances to anyone who's had
    a family member die in the line of duty?
    Particularly since Tommy's apparently trying to ask
    for things which they do not have a clear "Need to
    Know" even if they did have the appropriate
    Security Clearance. "Strike 4".
    You can't see anything problematic with that, can
    you, Sunshine?
    Tommy apparently believes that every private
    citizen has an inalienable right just because they
    have a personal curiosity to know absolutely every
    last thing that's going on in the Federal
    government at all levels, down to and including
    what time each employee takes bathroom break & how
    much urine discharged.

    Tommy's problem is that needs to turn himself
    around to realize that the same principle he's
    demanding for this release also has to apply to
    every minute that he was working which was paid
    (directly & indirectly) by the Government, because
    “What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the
    gander.” As a US citizen, I hereby demand that
    Tommy publish his own timekeeping accounting here
    immediately and without delay for the last decade
    of his career, because there's invariably illegal
    Waste/Fraud/Abuse within. Refusal by Tommy to
    comply also reveals Tommy as a hypocrite, for
    saying one thing while doing another.

    -hh

    Do you libtards REALLY think that Lyin' Biden's
    disrespecting of Gold Star families is wise?
    REALLY???
    I don't believe you've shown that.

    LOL! What would it take to make you believe that?
    The actual quotes would be a good start.

    Well, it is obvious that you didn't even read the referenced
    article, Fool. For example:

    "The lies, given incomplete reports, incorrect reports, total
    disrespect," Barnett said during her emotional recollection
    Monday. "There were gunshots. All I wanted to know [was]
    where my kid was, where he fell, how long did he last? Did he
    fight?"
    So that's a claim of "lies"....

    ...but no actual statement of what was supposedly lied about.

    Did Lyin' Biden DISRESPECT these Gold Star Families, yes or no?
    I don't know.

    What I DO know is that you won't show anything that represents and
    example of the "DISRESPECT" you claim happened.

    You asked for a quote and I gave you a quote of the families stating
    that Lyin' Biden disrespected them by, for one thing, lying to them -
    that sure is an example, is it not?
    No, Sunshine.

    I asked you for a quote that showed a LIE.

    Many of the families accused the Biden administration of lying about the botched exit. Nikoui said he was given false information and knew high-level officials were lying to him about the details of his son's tragic passing.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Tue Aug 15 16:33:04 2023
    On 2023-08-15 15:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:27:10 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-14 19:51, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:43:41 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-13 11:24, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:07:05 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:35, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:20:23 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:18, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:44:59 AM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 18:21, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-7,
    -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:15:19 PM
    UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 10:45, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 6:48:55 AM
    UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at
    2:12:30 AM UTC-4, Tommy wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI









    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE?????
    Those families lacked both the required
    Security Clearance and a Need-to-Know
    ...right? As military families they
    should have long ago learned that
    there's Operational priorities which will
    always deny them full transparency. If
    their children didn't educate them of
    this before their deployment, that's on
    the family, not the Service.

    Plus another question is when were they
    told that Trump had already reduced the
    total troop count to under 2,500 before
    Jan 20th which jeopardized their physical
    security long before Biden took office?
    That was Open Literature, so there's no
    excuse for them to have been ignorant of
    it. Ditto how Trump had previously
    negotiated a withdrawal timeline: also
    Open Literature.

    The truly sad part is that these
    families were then exploited by
    Republicans for petty artisan political
    gain.


    Pure LIBTARD BULLSHIT EXCUSES!

    Nope: it is an understanding of, and
    compliance with Federal Security Regulations, a
    topic which Tommy has failed to demonstrate
    knowledge & mastery of.
    They could have been EASILY granted
    security clearances for that specific event
    - Lyin' Biden has the POWER to do that.
    False; authority to grant security clearances
    lies here in DoD, not the Executive Branch.
    Biden could order declassification, but that
    opens it up to everyone, including our
    enemies.
    This wasn't done STRICTLY because it would
    have EMBARRASSED the senile pervert.

    "Could have"? Sure.
    If Tommy could actually prove that claim, he
    would finally have proof of an actual crime
    perpetrated by Biden ... but that also assumes
    that Biden was the OCA, not the DoD, which
    doesn't make sense since it was a DoD
    Operation: the SCG and OCA would reside within
    DoD, not the Executive Branch. "Strike 2" and
    "Strike 3" on Tommy demonstrating a lack of
    knowledge on Fed Security Regulations just
    within this thread.
    But do you think that's actually wise; just
    granting security clearances to anyone who's
    had a family member die in the line of duty?
    Particularly since Tommy's apparently trying to
    ask for things which they do not have a clear
    "Need to Know" even if they did have the
    appropriate Security Clearance. "Strike 4".
    You can't see anything problematic with that,
    can you, Sunshine?
    Tommy apparently believes that every private
    citizen has an inalienable right just because
    they have a personal curiosity to know
    absolutely every last thing that's going on in
    the Federal government at all levels, down to
    and including what time each employee takes
    bathroom break & how much urine discharged.

    Tommy's problem is that needs to turn himself
    around to realize that the same principle he's
    demanding for this release also has to apply
    to every minute that he was working which was
    paid (directly & indirectly) by the Government,
    because “What's sauce for the goose is sauce
    for the gander.” As a US citizen, I hereby
    demand that Tommy publish his own timekeeping
    accounting here immediately and without delay
    for the last decade of his career, because
    there's invariably illegal Waste/Fraud/Abuse
    within. Refusal by Tommy to comply also reveals
    Tommy as a hypocrite, for saying one thing
    while doing another.

    -hh

    Do you libtards REALLY think that Lyin' Biden's
    disrespecting of Gold Star families is wise?
    REALLY???
    I don't believe you've shown that.

    LOL! What would it take to make you believe that?
    The actual quotes would be a good start.

    Well, it is obvious that you didn't even read the
    referenced article, Fool. For example:

    "The lies, given incomplete reports, incorrect reports,
    total disrespect," Barnett said during her emotional
    recollection Monday. "There were gunshots. All I wanted
    to know [was] where my kid was, where he fell, how long
    did he last? Did he fight?"
    So that's a claim of "lies"....

    ...but no actual statement of what was supposedly lied
    about.

    Did Lyin' Biden DISRESPECT these Gold Star Families, yes or
    no?
    I don't know.

    What I DO know is that you won't show anything that represents
    and example of the "DISRESPECT" you claim happened.

    You asked for a quote and I gave you a quote of the families
    stating that Lyin' Biden disrespected them by, for one thing,
    lying to them - that sure is an example, is it not?
    No, Sunshine.

    I asked you for a quote that showed a LIE.

    Many of the families accused the Biden administration of lying about
    the botched exit. Nikoui said he was given false information and knew high-level officials were lying to him about the details of his son's
    tragic passing.

    Still waiting for you to quote something that ANYONE has claimed is a
    lie, Sunshine...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Aug 15 16:51:32 2023
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:33:09 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 15:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:27:10 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-14 19:51, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:43:41 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-13 11:24, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:07:05 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:35, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:20:23 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:18, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:44:59 AM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 18:21, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-7,
    -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:15:19 PM
    UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 10:45, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 6:48:55 AM
    UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at
    2:12:30 AM UTC-4, Tommy wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI









    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE?????
    Those families lacked both the required
    Security Clearance and a Need-to-Know
    ...right? As military families they
    should have long ago learned that
    there's Operational priorities which will
    always deny them full transparency. If
    their children didn't educate them of
    this before their deployment, that's on
    the family, not the Service.

    Plus another question is when were they
    told that Trump had already reduced the
    total troop count to under 2,500 before
    Jan 20th which jeopardized their physical
    security long before Biden took office?
    That was Open Literature, so there's no
    excuse for them to have been ignorant of
    it. Ditto how Trump had previously
    negotiated a withdrawal timeline: also
    Open Literature.

    The truly sad part is that these
    families were then exploited by
    Republicans for petty artisan political
    gain.


    Pure LIBTARD BULLSHIT EXCUSES!

    Nope: it is an understanding of, and
    compliance with Federal Security Regulations, a
    topic which Tommy has failed to demonstrate
    knowledge & mastery of.
    They could have been EASILY granted
    security clearances for that specific event
    - Lyin' Biden has the POWER to do that.
    False; authority to grant security clearances
    lies here in DoD, not the Executive Branch.
    Biden could order declassification, but that
    opens it up to everyone, including our
    enemies.
    This wasn't done STRICTLY because it would
    have EMBARRASSED the senile pervert.

    "Could have"? Sure.
    If Tommy could actually prove that claim, he
    would finally have proof of an actual crime
    perpetrated by Biden ... but that also assumes
    that Biden was the OCA, not the DoD, which
    doesn't make sense since it was a DoD
    Operation: the SCG and OCA would reside within
    DoD, not the Executive Branch. "Strike 2" and
    "Strike 3" on Tommy demonstrating a lack of
    knowledge on Fed Security Regulations just
    within this thread.
    But do you think that's actually wise; just
    granting security clearances to anyone who's
    had a family member die in the line of duty?
    Particularly since Tommy's apparently trying to
    ask for things which they do not have a clear
    "Need to Know" even if they did have the
    appropriate Security Clearance. "Strike 4".
    You can't see anything problematic with that,
    can you, Sunshine?
    Tommy apparently believes that every private
    citizen has an inalienable right just because
    they have a personal curiosity to know
    absolutely every last thing that's going on in
    the Federal government at all levels, down to
    and including what time each employee takes
    bathroom break & how much urine discharged.

    Tommy's problem is that needs to turn himself
    around to realize that the same principle he's
    demanding for this release also has to apply
    to every minute that he was working which was
    paid (directly & indirectly) by the Government,
    because “What's sauce for the goose is sauce
    for the gander.” As a US citizen, I hereby
    demand that Tommy publish his own timekeeping
    accounting here immediately and without delay
    for the last decade of his career, because
    there's invariably illegal Waste/Fraud/Abuse
    within. Refusal by Tommy to comply also reveals
    Tommy as a hypocrite, for saying one thing
    while doing another.

    -hh

    Do you libtards REALLY think that Lyin' Biden's
    disrespecting of Gold Star families is wise?
    REALLY???
    I don't believe you've shown that.

    LOL! What would it take to make you believe that?
    The actual quotes would be a good start.

    Well, it is obvious that you didn't even read the
    referenced article, Fool. For example:

    "The lies, given incomplete reports, incorrect reports,
    total disrespect," Barnett said during her emotional
    recollection Monday. "There were gunshots. All I wanted
    to know [was] where my kid was, where he fell, how long
    did he last? Did he fight?"
    So that's a claim of "lies"....

    ...but no actual statement of what was supposedly lied
    about.

    Did Lyin' Biden DISRESPECT these Gold Star Families, yes or
    no?
    I don't know.

    What I DO know is that you won't show anything that represents
    and example of the "DISRESPECT" you claim happened.

    You asked for a quote and I gave you a quote of the families
    stating that Lyin' Biden disrespected them by, for one thing,
    lying to them - that sure is an example, is it not?
    No, Sunshine.

    I asked you for a quote that showed a LIE.

    Many of the families accused the Biden administration of lying about
    the botched exit. Nikoui said he was given false information and knew high-level officials were lying to him about the details of his son's tragic passing.
    Still waiting for you to quote something that ANYONE has claimed is a
    lie, Sunshine...

    I JUST DID, Fool!!!!!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Tommy on Tue Aug 15 17:25:14 2023
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:51:34 PM UTC-7, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:33:09 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 15:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:27:10 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-14 19:51, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:43:41 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-13 11:24, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:07:05 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:35, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:20:23 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:18, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:44:59 AM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 18:21, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-7, >>>>>>>>>>> -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:15:19 PM
    UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 10:45, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 6:48:55 AM
    UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at
    2:12:30 AM UTC-4, Tommy wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI









    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE?????
    Those families lacked both the required
    Security Clearance and a Need-to-Know
    ...right? As military families they
    should have long ago learned that
    there's Operational priorities which will
    always deny them full transparency. If
    their children didn't educate them of
    this before their deployment, that's on
    the family, not the Service.

    Plus another question is when were they
    told that Trump had already reduced the
    total troop count to under 2,500 before
    Jan 20th which jeopardized their physical
    security long before Biden took office?
    That was Open Literature, so there's no
    excuse for them to have been ignorant of
    it. Ditto how Trump had previously
    negotiated a withdrawal timeline: also
    Open Literature.

    The truly sad part is that these
    families were then exploited by
    Republicans for petty artisan political
    gain.


    Pure LIBTARD BULLSHIT EXCUSES!

    Nope: it is an understanding of, and
    compliance with Federal Security Regulations, a
    topic which Tommy has failed to demonstrate
    knowledge & mastery of.
    They could have been EASILY granted
    security clearances for that specific event
    - Lyin' Biden has the POWER to do that.
    False; authority to grant security clearances
    lies here in DoD, not the Executive Branch.
    Biden could order declassification, but that
    opens it up to everyone, including our
    enemies.
    This wasn't done STRICTLY because it would
    have EMBARRASSED the senile pervert.

    "Could have"? Sure.
    If Tommy could actually prove that claim, he
    would finally have proof of an actual crime
    perpetrated by Biden ... but that also assumes
    that Biden was the OCA, not the DoD, which
    doesn't make sense since it was a DoD
    Operation: the SCG and OCA would reside within
    DoD, not the Executive Branch. "Strike 2" and
    "Strike 3" on Tommy demonstrating a lack of
    knowledge on Fed Security Regulations just
    within this thread.
    But do you think that's actually wise; just
    granting security clearances to anyone who's
    had a family member die in the line of duty?
    Particularly since Tommy's apparently trying to
    ask for things which they do not have a clear
    "Need to Know" even if they did have the
    appropriate Security Clearance. "Strike 4".
    You can't see anything problematic with that,
    can you, Sunshine?
    Tommy apparently believes that every private
    citizen has an inalienable right just because
    they have a personal curiosity to know
    absolutely every last thing that's going on in
    the Federal government at all levels, down to
    and including what time each employee takes
    bathroom break & how much urine discharged.

    Tommy's problem is that needs to turn himself
    around to realize that the same principle he's
    demanding for this release also has to apply
    to every minute that he was working which was
    paid (directly & indirectly) by the Government,
    because “What's sauce for the goose is sauce
    for the gander.” As a US citizen, I hereby
    demand that Tommy publish his own timekeeping
    accounting here immediately and without delay
    for the last decade of his career, because
    there's invariably illegal Waste/Fraud/Abuse
    within. Refusal by Tommy to comply also reveals
    Tommy as a hypocrite, for saying one thing
    while doing another.

    -hh

    Do you libtards REALLY think that Lyin' Biden's
    disrespecting of Gold Star families is wise?
    REALLY???
    I don't believe you've shown that.

    LOL! What would it take to make you believe that?
    The actual quotes would be a good start.

    Well, it is obvious that you didn't even read the
    referenced article, Fool. For example:

    "The lies, given incomplete reports, incorrect reports,
    total disrespect," Barnett said during her emotional
    recollection Monday. "There were gunshots. All I wanted
    to know [was] where my kid was, where he fell, how long
    did he last? Did he fight?"
    So that's a claim of "lies"....

    ...but no actual statement of what was supposedly lied
    about.

    Did Lyin' Biden DISRESPECT these Gold Star Families, yes or
    no?
    I don't know.

    What I DO know is that you won't show anything that represents
    and example of the "DISRESPECT" you claim happened.

    You asked for a quote and I gave you a quote of the families
    stating that Lyin' Biden disrespected them by, for one thing,
    lying to them - that sure is an example, is it not?
    No, Sunshine.

    I asked you for a quote that showed a LIE.

    Many of the families accused the Biden administration of lying about
    the botched exit. Nikoui said he was given false information and knew high-level officials were lying to him about the details of his son's tragic passing.
    Still waiting for you to quote something that ANYONE has claimed is a
    lie, Sunshine...
    I JUST DID, Fool!!!!!

    Hey Fool, you need to watch this, COMPLETELY: https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-treatment-gold-star-families-105043242.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Tue Aug 15 17:33:28 2023
    On 2023-08-15 16:51, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:33:09 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 15:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:27:10 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-14 19:51, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:43:41 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-13 11:24, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:07:05 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:35, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:20:23 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:18, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:44:59 AM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 18:21, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-7,
    -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:15:19 PM
    UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 10:45, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 6:48:55 AM
    UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at
    2:12:30 AM UTC-4, Tommy wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI









    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE?????
    Those families lacked both the required
    Security Clearance and a Need-to-Know
    ...right? As military families they
    should have long ago learned that
    there's Operational priorities which will
    always deny them full transparency. If
    their children didn't educate them of
    this before their deployment, that's on
    the family, not the Service.

    Plus another question is when were they
    told that Trump had already reduced the
    total troop count to under 2,500 before
    Jan 20th which jeopardized their physical
    security long before Biden took office?
    That was Open Literature, so there's no
    excuse for them to have been ignorant of
    it. Ditto how Trump had previously
    negotiated a withdrawal timeline: also
    Open Literature.

    The truly sad part is that these
    families were then exploited by
    Republicans for petty artisan political
    gain.


    Pure LIBTARD BULLSHIT EXCUSES!

    Nope: it is an understanding of, and
    compliance with Federal Security Regulations, a
    topic which Tommy has failed to demonstrate
    knowledge & mastery of.
    They could have been EASILY granted
    security clearances for that specific event
    - Lyin' Biden has the POWER to do that.
    False; authority to grant security clearances
    lies here in DoD, not the Executive Branch.
    Biden could order declassification, but that
    opens it up to everyone, including our
    enemies.
    This wasn't done STRICTLY because it would
    have EMBARRASSED the senile pervert.

    "Could have"? Sure.
    If Tommy could actually prove that claim, he
    would finally have proof of an actual crime
    perpetrated by Biden ... but that also assumes
    that Biden was the OCA, not the DoD, which
    doesn't make sense since it was a DoD
    Operation: the SCG and OCA would reside within
    DoD, not the Executive Branch. "Strike 2" and
    "Strike 3" on Tommy demonstrating a lack of
    knowledge on Fed Security Regulations just
    within this thread.
    But do you think that's actually wise; just
    granting security clearances to anyone who's
    had a family member die in the line of duty?
    Particularly since Tommy's apparently trying to
    ask for things which they do not have a clear
    "Need to Know" even if they did have the
    appropriate Security Clearance. "Strike 4".
    You can't see anything problematic with that,
    can you, Sunshine?
    Tommy apparently believes that every private
    citizen has an inalienable right just because
    they have a personal curiosity to know
    absolutely every last thing that's going on in
    the Federal government at all levels, down to
    and including what time each employee takes
    bathroom break & how much urine discharged.

    Tommy's problem is that needs to turn himself
    around to realize that the same principle he's
    demanding for this release also has to apply
    to every minute that he was working which was
    paid (directly & indirectly) by the Government,
    because “What's sauce for the goose is sauce
    for the gander.” As a US citizen, I hereby
    demand that Tommy publish his own timekeeping
    accounting here immediately and without delay
    for the last decade of his career, because
    there's invariably illegal Waste/Fraud/Abuse
    within. Refusal by Tommy to comply also reveals
    Tommy as a hypocrite, for saying one thing
    while doing another.

    -hh

    Do you libtards REALLY think that Lyin' Biden's
    disrespecting of Gold Star families is wise?
    REALLY???
    I don't believe you've shown that.

    LOL! What would it take to make you believe that?
    The actual quotes would be a good start.

    Well, it is obvious that you didn't even read the
    referenced article, Fool. For example:

    "The lies, given incomplete reports, incorrect reports,
    total disrespect," Barnett said during her emotional
    recollection Monday. "There were gunshots. All I wanted
    to know [was] where my kid was, where he fell, how long
    did he last? Did he fight?"
    So that's a claim of "lies"....

    ...but no actual statement of what was supposedly lied
    about.

    Did Lyin' Biden DISRESPECT these Gold Star Families, yes or
    no?
    I don't know.

    What I DO know is that you won't show anything that represents
    and example of the "DISRESPECT" you claim happened.

    You asked for a quote and I gave you a quote of the families
    stating that Lyin' Biden disrespected them by, for one thing,
    lying to them - that sure is an example, is it not?
    No, Sunshine.

    I asked you for a quote that showed a LIE.

    Many of the families accused the Biden administration of lying about
    the botched exit. Nikoui said he was given false information and knew
    high-level officials were lying to him about the details of his son's
    tragic passing.
    Still waiting for you to quote something that ANYONE has claimed is a
    lie, Sunshine...

    I JUST DID, Fool!!!!!

    Nope.

    You quoted someone accusing Biden of lying without articulating what
    said lie was supposed to be.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Tue Aug 15 17:34:53 2023
    On 2023-08-15 17:25, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:51:34 PM UTC-7, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:33:09 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 15:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:27:10 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-14 19:51, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:43:41 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-13 11:24, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:07:05 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:35, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:20:23 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:18, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:44:59 AM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 18:21, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-7, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:15:19 PM
    UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 10:45, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 6:48:55 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at
    2:12:30 AM UTC-4, Tommy wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI









    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE?????
    Those families lacked both the required
    Security Clearance and a Need-to-Know
    ...right? As military families they
    should have long ago learned that
    there's Operational priorities which will
    always deny them full transparency. If
    their children didn't educate them of
    this before their deployment, that's on
    the family, not the Service.

    Plus another question is when were they
    told that Trump had already reduced the
    total troop count to under 2,500 before
    Jan 20th which jeopardized their physical
    security long before Biden took office?
    That was Open Literature, so there's no
    excuse for them to have been ignorant of
    it. Ditto how Trump had previously
    negotiated a withdrawal timeline: also
    Open Literature.

    The truly sad part is that these
    families were then exploited by
    Republicans for petty artisan political
    gain.


    Pure LIBTARD BULLSHIT EXCUSES!

    Nope: it is an understanding of, and
    compliance with Federal Security Regulations, a
    topic which Tommy has failed to demonstrate
    knowledge & mastery of.
    They could have been EASILY granted
    security clearances for that specific event
    - Lyin' Biden has the POWER to do that.
    False; authority to grant security clearances
    lies here in DoD, not the Executive Branch.
    Biden could order declassification, but that
    opens it up to everyone, including our
    enemies.
    This wasn't done STRICTLY because it would
    have EMBARRASSED the senile pervert.

    "Could have"? Sure.
    If Tommy could actually prove that claim, he
    would finally have proof of an actual crime
    perpetrated by Biden ... but that also assumes
    that Biden was the OCA, not the DoD, which
    doesn't make sense since it was a DoD
    Operation: the SCG and OCA would reside within
    DoD, not the Executive Branch. "Strike 2" and
    "Strike 3" on Tommy demonstrating a lack of
    knowledge on Fed Security Regulations just
    within this thread.
    But do you think that's actually wise; just
    granting security clearances to anyone who's
    had a family member die in the line of duty?
    Particularly since Tommy's apparently trying to
    ask for things which they do not have a clear
    "Need to Know" even if they did have the
    appropriate Security Clearance. "Strike 4".
    You can't see anything problematic with that,
    can you, Sunshine?
    Tommy apparently believes that every private
    citizen has an inalienable right just because
    they have a personal curiosity to know
    absolutely every last thing that's going on in
    the Federal government at all levels, down to
    and including what time each employee takes
    bathroom break & how much urine discharged.

    Tommy's problem is that needs to turn himself
    around to realize that the same principle he's
    demanding for this release also has to apply
    to every minute that he was working which was
    paid (directly & indirectly) by the Government,
    because “What's sauce for the goose is sauce
    for the gander.” As a US citizen, I hereby
    demand that Tommy publish his own timekeeping
    accounting here immediately and without delay
    for the last decade of his career, because
    there's invariably illegal Waste/Fraud/Abuse
    within. Refusal by Tommy to comply also reveals
    Tommy as a hypocrite, for saying one thing
    while doing another.

    -hh

    Do you libtards REALLY think that Lyin' Biden's
    disrespecting of Gold Star families is wise?
    REALLY???
    I don't believe you've shown that.

    LOL! What would it take to make you believe that?
    The actual quotes would be a good start.

    Well, it is obvious that you didn't even read the
    referenced article, Fool. For example:

    "The lies, given incomplete reports, incorrect reports,
    total disrespect," Barnett said during her emotional
    recollection Monday. "There were gunshots. All I wanted
    to know [was] where my kid was, where he fell, how long
    did he last? Did he fight?"
    So that's a claim of "lies"....

    ...but no actual statement of what was supposedly lied
    about.

    Did Lyin' Biden DISRESPECT these Gold Star Families, yes or
    no?
    I don't know.

    What I DO know is that you won't show anything that represents
    and example of the "DISRESPECT" you claim happened.

    You asked for a quote and I gave you a quote of the families
    stating that Lyin' Biden disrespected them by, for one thing,
    lying to them - that sure is an example, is it not?
    No, Sunshine.

    I asked you for a quote that showed a LIE.

    Many of the families accused the Biden administration of lying about
    the botched exit. Nikoui said he was given false information and knew
    high-level officials were lying to him about the details of his son's
    tragic passing.
    Still waiting for you to quote something that ANYONE has claimed is a
    lie, Sunshine...
    I JUST DID, Fool!!!!!

    Hey Fool, you need to watch this, COMPLETELY: https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-treatment-gold-star-families-105043242.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall

    Hey, Sunshine.

    You tell me where there is one statement by Biden in all of that that
    you want to claim is false.

    :-)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Aug 15 22:29:13 2023
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:34:57 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 17:25, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:51:34 PM UTC-7, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:33:09 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 15:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:27:10 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-14 19:51, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:43:41 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>> On 2023-08-13 11:24, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:07:05 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:35, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:20:23 PM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:18, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:44:59 AM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 18:21, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-7, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:15:19 PM
    UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 10:45, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 6:48:55 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at
    2:12:30 AM UTC-4, Tommy wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI









    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE?????
    Those families lacked both the required >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Security Clearance and a Need-to-Know
    ...right? As military families they
    should have long ago learned that
    there's Operational priorities which will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always deny them full transparency. If
    their children didn't educate them of
    this before their deployment, that's on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the family, not the Service.

    Plus another question is when were they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> told that Trump had already reduced the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> total troop count to under 2,500 before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jan 20th which jeopardized their physical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security long before Biden took office? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That was Open Literature, so there's no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> excuse for them to have been ignorant of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. Ditto how Trump had previously
    negotiated a withdrawal timeline: also
    Open Literature.

    The truly sad part is that these
    families were then exploited by
    Republicans for petty artisan political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gain.


    Pure LIBTARD BULLSHIT EXCUSES!

    Nope: it is an understanding of, and
    compliance with Federal Security Regulations, a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> topic which Tommy has failed to demonstrate
    knowledge & mastery of.
    They could have been EASILY granted
    security clearances for that specific event >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Lyin' Biden has the POWER to do that.
    False; authority to grant security clearances >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lies here in DoD, not the Executive Branch.
    Biden could order declassification, but that
    opens it up to everyone, including our
    enemies.
    This wasn't done STRICTLY because it would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have EMBARRASSED the senile pervert.

    "Could have"? Sure.
    If Tommy could actually prove that claim, he
    would finally have proof of an actual crime
    perpetrated by Biden ... but that also assumes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Biden was the OCA, not the DoD, which
    doesn't make sense since it was a DoD
    Operation: the SCG and OCA would reside within >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DoD, not the Executive Branch. "Strike 2" and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Strike 3" on Tommy demonstrating a lack of
    knowledge on Fed Security Regulations just
    within this thread.
    But do you think that's actually wise; just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> granting security clearances to anyone who's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had a family member die in the line of duty? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Particularly since Tommy's apparently trying to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask for things which they do not have a clear >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Need to Know" even if they did have the
    appropriate Security Clearance. "Strike 4".
    You can't see anything problematic with that, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can you, Sunshine?
    Tommy apparently believes that every private
    citizen has an inalienable right just because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they have a personal curiosity to know
    absolutely every last thing that's going on in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Federal government at all levels, down to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and including what time each employee takes
    bathroom break & how much urine discharged.

    Tommy's problem is that needs to turn himself >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around to realize that the same principle he's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demanding for this release also has to apply
    to every minute that he was working which was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paid (directly & indirectly) by the Government, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because “What's sauce for the goose is sauce >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the gander.” As a US citizen, I hereby
    demand that Tommy publish his own timekeeping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accounting here immediately and without delay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the last decade of his career, because
    there's invariably illegal Waste/Fraud/Abuse
    within. Refusal by Tommy to comply also reveals >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tommy as a hypocrite, for saying one thing
    while doing another.

    -hh

    Do you libtards REALLY think that Lyin' Biden's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> disrespecting of Gold Star families is wise?
    REALLY???
    I don't believe you've shown that.

    LOL! What would it take to make you believe that?
    The actual quotes would be a good start.

    Well, it is obvious that you didn't even read the
    referenced article, Fool. For example:

    "The lies, given incomplete reports, incorrect reports, >>>>>>>>>> total disrespect," Barnett said during her emotional
    recollection Monday. "There were gunshots. All I wanted >>>>>>>>>> to know [was] where my kid was, where he fell, how long >>>>>>>>>> did he last? Did he fight?"
    So that's a claim of "lies"....

    ...but no actual statement of what was supposedly lied
    about.

    Did Lyin' Biden DISRESPECT these Gold Star Families, yes or >>>>>>>> no?
    I don't know.

    What I DO know is that you won't show anything that represents >>>>>>> and example of the "DISRESPECT" you claim happened.

    You asked for a quote and I gave you a quote of the families
    stating that Lyin' Biden disrespected them by, for one thing,
    lying to them - that sure is an example, is it not?
    No, Sunshine.

    I asked you for a quote that showed a LIE.

    Many of the families accused the Biden administration of lying about >>>> the botched exit. Nikoui said he was given false information and knew >>>> high-level officials were lying to him about the details of his son's >>>> tragic passing.
    Still waiting for you to quote something that ANYONE has claimed is a >>> lie, Sunshine...
    I JUST DID, Fool!!!!!

    Hey Fool, you need to watch this, COMPLETELY: https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-treatment-gold-star-families-105043242.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall
    Hey, Sunshine.

    You tell me where there is one statement by Biden in all of that that
    you want to claim is false.

    :-)

    Did you watch the video?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Tue Aug 15 22:39:52 2023
    On 2023-08-15 22:29, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:34:57 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 17:25, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:51:34 PM UTC-7, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:33:09 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 15:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:27:10 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-14 19:51, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:43:41 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2023-08-13 11:24, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:07:05 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:35, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:20:23 PM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:18, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:44:59 AM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 18:21, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-7, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:15:19 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 10:45, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 6:48:55 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at
    2:12:30 AM UTC-4, Tommy wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI









    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE?????
    Those families lacked both the required >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Security Clearance and a Need-to-Know
    ...right? As military families they
    should have long ago learned that
    there's Operational priorities which will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always deny them full transparency. If >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their children didn't educate them of
    this before their deployment, that's on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the family, not the Service.

    Plus another question is when were they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> told that Trump had already reduced the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> total troop count to under 2,500 before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jan 20th which jeopardized their physical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security long before Biden took office? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That was Open Literature, so there's no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> excuse for them to have been ignorant of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. Ditto how Trump had previously
    negotiated a withdrawal timeline: also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Literature.

    The truly sad part is that these
    families were then exploited by
    Republicans for petty artisan political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gain.


    Pure LIBTARD BULLSHIT EXCUSES!

    Nope: it is an understanding of, and
    compliance with Federal Security Regulations, a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> topic which Tommy has failed to demonstrate
    knowledge & mastery of.
    They could have been EASILY granted
    security clearances for that specific event >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Lyin' Biden has the POWER to do that.
    False; authority to grant security clearances >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lies here in DoD, not the Executive Branch.
    Biden could order declassification, but that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opens it up to everyone, including our
    enemies.
    This wasn't done STRICTLY because it would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have EMBARRASSED the senile pervert.

    "Could have"? Sure.
    If Tommy could actually prove that claim, he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would finally have proof of an actual crime
    perpetrated by Biden ... but that also assumes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Biden was the OCA, not the DoD, which
    doesn't make sense since it was a DoD
    Operation: the SCG and OCA would reside within >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DoD, not the Executive Branch. "Strike 2" and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Strike 3" on Tommy demonstrating a lack of
    knowledge on Fed Security Regulations just
    within this thread.
    But do you think that's actually wise; just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> granting security clearances to anyone who's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had a family member die in the line of duty? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Particularly since Tommy's apparently trying to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask for things which they do not have a clear >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Need to Know" even if they did have the
    appropriate Security Clearance. "Strike 4". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can't see anything problematic with that, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can you, Sunshine?
    Tommy apparently believes that every private >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizen has an inalienable right just because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they have a personal curiosity to know
    absolutely every last thing that's going on in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Federal government at all levels, down to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and including what time each employee takes
    bathroom break & how much urine discharged.

    Tommy's problem is that needs to turn himself >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around to realize that the same principle he's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demanding for this release also has to apply >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to every minute that he was working which was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paid (directly & indirectly) by the Government, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because “What's sauce for the goose is sauce >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the gander.” As a US citizen, I hereby >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demand that Tommy publish his own timekeeping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accounting here immediately and without delay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the last decade of his career, because
    there's invariably illegal Waste/Fraud/Abuse >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> within. Refusal by Tommy to comply also reveals >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tommy as a hypocrite, for saying one thing
    while doing another.

    -hh

    Do you libtards REALLY think that Lyin' Biden's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disrespecting of Gold Star families is wise?
    REALLY???
    I don't believe you've shown that.

    LOL! What would it take to make you believe that?
    The actual quotes would be a good start.

    Well, it is obvious that you didn't even read the
    referenced article, Fool. For example:

    "The lies, given incomplete reports, incorrect reports, >>>>>>>>>>>> total disrespect," Barnett said during her emotional
    recollection Monday. "There were gunshots. All I wanted >>>>>>>>>>>> to know [was] where my kid was, where he fell, how long >>>>>>>>>>>> did he last? Did he fight?"
    So that's a claim of "lies"....

    ...but no actual statement of what was supposedly lied
    about.

    Did Lyin' Biden DISRESPECT these Gold Star Families, yes or >>>>>>>>>> no?
    I don't know.

    What I DO know is that you won't show anything that represents >>>>>>>>> and example of the "DISRESPECT" you claim happened.

    You asked for a quote and I gave you a quote of the families
    stating that Lyin' Biden disrespected them by, for one thing,
    lying to them - that sure is an example, is it not?
    No, Sunshine.

    I asked you for a quote that showed a LIE.

    Many of the families accused the Biden administration of lying about >>>>>> the botched exit. Nikoui said he was given false information and knew >>>>>> high-level officials were lying to him about the details of his son's >>>>>> tragic passing.
    Still waiting for you to quote something that ANYONE has claimed is a >>>>> lie, Sunshine...
    I JUST DID, Fool!!!!!

    Hey Fool, you need to watch this, COMPLETELY:
    https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-treatment-gold-star-families-105043242.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall
    Hey, Sunshine.

    You tell me where there is one statement by Biden in all of that that
    you want to claim is false.

    :-)

    Did you watch the video?

    I'm not searching through videos for what you claim is there, Sunshine.

    You think there's something I should know...

    ...quote it.

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Aug 15 22:41:42 2023
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 10:40:00 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 22:29, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:34:57 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 17:25, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:51:34 PM UTC-7, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:33:09 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 15:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:27:10 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>> On 2023-08-14 19:51, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:43:41 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2023-08-13 11:24, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:07:05 PM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:35, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:20:23 PM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:18, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:44:59 AM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 18:21, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-7, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:15:19 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 10:45, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 6:48:55 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at
    2:12:30 AM UTC-4, Tommy wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI









    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE????? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those families lacked both the required >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Security Clearance and a Need-to-Know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...right? As military families they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should have long ago learned that
    there's Operational priorities which will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always deny them full transparency. If >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their children didn't educate them of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this before their deployment, that's on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the family, not the Service.

    Plus another question is when were they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> told that Trump had already reduced the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> total troop count to under 2,500 before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jan 20th which jeopardized their physical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security long before Biden took office? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That was Open Literature, so there's no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> excuse for them to have been ignorant of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. Ditto how Trump had previously
    negotiated a withdrawal timeline: also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Literature.

    The truly sad part is that these
    families were then exploited by
    Republicans for petty artisan political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gain.


    Pure LIBTARD BULLSHIT EXCUSES!

    Nope: it is an understanding of, and
    compliance with Federal Security Regulations, a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> topic which Tommy has failed to demonstrate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge & mastery of.
    They could have been EASILY granted
    security clearances for that specific event >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Lyin' Biden has the POWER to do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> False; authority to grant security clearances >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lies here in DoD, not the Executive Branch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biden could order declassification, but that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opens it up to everyone, including our
    enemies.
    This wasn't done STRICTLY because it would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have EMBARRASSED the senile pervert.

    "Could have"? Sure.
    If Tommy could actually prove that claim, he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would finally have proof of an actual crime >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perpetrated by Biden ... but that also assumes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Biden was the OCA, not the DoD, which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't make sense since it was a DoD
    Operation: the SCG and OCA would reside within >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DoD, not the Executive Branch. "Strike 2" and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Strike 3" on Tommy demonstrating a lack of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge on Fed Security Regulations just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> within this thread.
    But do you think that's actually wise; just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> granting security clearances to anyone who's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had a family member die in the line of duty? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Particularly since Tommy's apparently trying to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask for things which they do not have a clear >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Need to Know" even if they did have the
    appropriate Security Clearance. "Strike 4". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can't see anything problematic with that, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can you, Sunshine?
    Tommy apparently believes that every private >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizen has an inalienable right just because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they have a personal curiosity to know
    absolutely every last thing that's going on in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Federal government at all levels, down to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and including what time each employee takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bathroom break & how much urine discharged. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Tommy's problem is that needs to turn himself >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around to realize that the same principle he's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demanding for this release also has to apply >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to every minute that he was working which was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paid (directly & indirectly) by the Government, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because “What's sauce for the goose is sauce >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the gander.” As a US citizen, I hereby >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demand that Tommy publish his own timekeeping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accounting here immediately and without delay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the last decade of his career, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's invariably illegal Waste/Fraud/Abuse >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> within. Refusal by Tommy to comply also reveals >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tommy as a hypocrite, for saying one thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while doing another.

    -hh

    Do you libtards REALLY think that Lyin' Biden's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disrespecting of Gold Star families is wise? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> REALLY???
    I don't believe you've shown that.

    LOL! What would it take to make you believe that? >>>>>>>>>>>>> The actual quotes would be a good start.

    Well, it is obvious that you didn't even read the
    referenced article, Fool. For example:

    "The lies, given incomplete reports, incorrect reports, >>>>>>>>>>>> total disrespect," Barnett said during her emotional >>>>>>>>>>>> recollection Monday. "There were gunshots. All I wanted >>>>>>>>>>>> to know [was] where my kid was, where he fell, how long >>>>>>>>>>>> did he last? Did he fight?"
    So that's a claim of "lies"....

    ...but no actual statement of what was supposedly lied >>>>>>>>>>> about.

    Did Lyin' Biden DISRESPECT these Gold Star Families, yes or >>>>>>>>>> no?
    I don't know.

    What I DO know is that you won't show anything that represents >>>>>>>>> and example of the "DISRESPECT" you claim happened.

    You asked for a quote and I gave you a quote of the families >>>>>>>> stating that Lyin' Biden disrespected them by, for one thing, >>>>>>>> lying to them - that sure is an example, is it not?
    No, Sunshine.

    I asked you for a quote that showed a LIE.

    Many of the families accused the Biden administration of lying about >>>>>> the botched exit. Nikoui said he was given false information and knew >>>>>> high-level officials were lying to him about the details of his son's >>>>>> tragic passing.
    Still waiting for you to quote something that ANYONE has claimed is a >>>>> lie, Sunshine...
    I JUST DID, Fool!!!!!

    Hey Fool, you need to watch this, COMPLETELY:
    https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-treatment-gold-star-families-105043242.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall
    Hey, Sunshine.

    You tell me where there is one statement by Biden in all of that that
    you want to claim is false.

    :-)

    Did you watch the video?
    I'm not searching through videos for what you claim is there, Sunshine.

    You think there's something I should know...

    ...quote it.
    Here it is again: https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-treatment-gold-star-families-105043242.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall
    Just watch the first THIRTY SECONDS (the quote is CC'd)

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Tue Aug 15 22:47:49 2023
    On 2023-08-15 22:41, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 10:40:00 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 22:29, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:34:57 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 17:25, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:51:34 PM UTC-7, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:33:09 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 15:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:27:10 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2023-08-14 19:51, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:43:41 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-08-13 11:24, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:07:05 PM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:35, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:20:23 PM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:18, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:44:59 AM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 18:21, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-7, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:15:19 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 10:45, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 6:48:55 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at
    2:12:30 AM UTC-4, Tommy wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI









    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE????? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those families lacked both the required >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Security Clearance and a Need-to-Know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...right? As military families they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should have long ago learned that
    there's Operational priorities which will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always deny them full transparency. If >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their children didn't educate them of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this before their deployment, that's on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the family, not the Service.

    Plus another question is when were they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> told that Trump had already reduced the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> total troop count to under 2,500 before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jan 20th which jeopardized their physical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security long before Biden took office? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That was Open Literature, so there's no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> excuse for them to have been ignorant of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. Ditto how Trump had previously >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> negotiated a withdrawal timeline: also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Literature.

    The truly sad part is that these
    families were then exploited by
    Republicans for petty artisan political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gain.


    Pure LIBTARD BULLSHIT EXCUSES!

    Nope: it is an understanding of, and
    compliance with Federal Security Regulations, a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> topic which Tommy has failed to demonstrate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge & mastery of.
    They could have been EASILY granted
    security clearances for that specific event >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Lyin' Biden has the POWER to do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> False; authority to grant security clearances >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lies here in DoD, not the Executive Branch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biden could order declassification, but that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opens it up to everyone, including our
    enemies.
    This wasn't done STRICTLY because it would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have EMBARRASSED the senile pervert.

    "Could have"? Sure.
    If Tommy could actually prove that claim, he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would finally have proof of an actual crime >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perpetrated by Biden ... but that also assumes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Biden was the OCA, not the DoD, which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't make sense since it was a DoD
    Operation: the SCG and OCA would reside within >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DoD, not the Executive Branch. "Strike 2" and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Strike 3" on Tommy demonstrating a lack of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge on Fed Security Regulations just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> within this thread.
    But do you think that's actually wise; just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> granting security clearances to anyone who's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had a family member die in the line of duty? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Particularly since Tommy's apparently trying to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask for things which they do not have a clear >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Need to Know" even if they did have the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate Security Clearance. "Strike 4". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can't see anything problematic with that, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can you, Sunshine?
    Tommy apparently believes that every private >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizen has an inalienable right just because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they have a personal curiosity to know
    absolutely every last thing that's going on in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Federal government at all levels, down to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and including what time each employee takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bathroom break & how much urine discharged. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Tommy's problem is that needs to turn himself >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around to realize that the same principle he's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demanding for this release also has to apply >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to every minute that he was working which was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paid (directly & indirectly) by the Government, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because “What's sauce for the goose is sauce >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the gander.” As a US citizen, I hereby >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demand that Tommy publish his own timekeeping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accounting here immediately and without delay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the last decade of his career, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's invariably illegal Waste/Fraud/Abuse >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> within. Refusal by Tommy to comply also reveals >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tommy as a hypocrite, for saying one thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while doing another.

    -hh

    Do you libtards REALLY think that Lyin' Biden's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disrespecting of Gold Star families is wise? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> REALLY???
    I don't believe you've shown that.

    LOL! What would it take to make you believe that? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The actual quotes would be a good start.

    Well, it is obvious that you didn't even read the
    referenced article, Fool. For example:

    "The lies, given incomplete reports, incorrect reports, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> total disrespect," Barnett said during her emotional >>>>>>>>>>>>>> recollection Monday. "There were gunshots. All I wanted >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to know [was] where my kid was, where he fell, how long >>>>>>>>>>>>>> did he last? Did he fight?"
    So that's a claim of "lies"....

    ...but no actual statement of what was supposedly lied >>>>>>>>>>>>> about.

    Did Lyin' Biden DISRESPECT these Gold Star Families, yes or >>>>>>>>>>>> no?
    I don't know.

    What I DO know is that you won't show anything that represents >>>>>>>>>>> and example of the "DISRESPECT" you claim happened.

    You asked for a quote and I gave you a quote of the families >>>>>>>>>> stating that Lyin' Biden disrespected them by, for one thing, >>>>>>>>>> lying to them - that sure is an example, is it not?
    No, Sunshine.

    I asked you for a quote that showed a LIE.

    Many of the families accused the Biden administration of lying about >>>>>>>> the botched exit. Nikoui said he was given false information and knew >>>>>>>> high-level officials were lying to him about the details of his son's >>>>>>>> tragic passing.
    Still waiting for you to quote something that ANYONE has claimed is a >>>>>>> lie, Sunshine...
    I JUST DID, Fool!!!!!

    Hey Fool, you need to watch this, COMPLETELY:
    https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-treatment-gold-star-families-105043242.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall
    Hey, Sunshine.

    You tell me where there is one statement by Biden in all of that that
    you want to claim is false.

    :-)

    Did you watch the video?
    I'm not searching through videos for what you claim is there, Sunshine.

    You think there's something I should know...

    ...quote it.
    Here it is again: https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-treatment-gold-star-families-105043242.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall
    Just watch the first THIRTY SECONDS (the quote is CC'd)

    Watched the first thirty seconds.

    The only quote of Biden is that he saw his son brought home in a
    flag-draped coffin.

    Are you claiming that that was a lie, Sunshine?

    Try again...

    ...or admit you're a loser?

    :-)

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Aug 15 23:10:37 2023
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 10:47:54 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 22:41, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 10:40:00 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 22:29, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:34:57 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 17:25, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:51:34 PM UTC-7, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:33:09 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>> On 2023-08-15 15:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:27:10 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2023-08-14 19:51, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:43:41 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-08-13 11:24, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:07:05 PM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:35, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:20:23 PM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:18, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:44:59 AM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 18:21, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-7, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:15:19 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 10:45, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 6:48:55 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2:12:30 AM UTC-4, Tommy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI









    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE????? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those families lacked both the required >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Security Clearance and a Need-to-Know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...right? As military families they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should have long ago learned that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's Operational priorities which will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always deny them full transparency. If >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their children didn't educate them of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this before their deployment, that's on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the family, not the Service.

    Plus another question is when were they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> told that Trump had already reduced the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> total troop count to under 2,500 before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jan 20th which jeopardized their physical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security long before Biden took office? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That was Open Literature, so there's no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> excuse for them to have been ignorant of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. Ditto how Trump had previously >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> negotiated a withdrawal timeline: also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Literature.

    The truly sad part is that these >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> families were then exploited by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Republicans for petty artisan political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gain.


    Pure LIBTARD BULLSHIT EXCUSES!

    Nope: it is an understanding of, and
    compliance with Federal Security Regulations, a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> topic which Tommy has failed to demonstrate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge & mastery of.
    They could have been EASILY granted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security clearances for that specific event >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Lyin' Biden has the POWER to do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> False; authority to grant security clearances >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lies here in DoD, not the Executive Branch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biden could order declassification, but that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opens it up to everyone, including our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enemies.
    This wasn't done STRICTLY because it would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have EMBARRASSED the senile pervert. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Could have"? Sure.
    If Tommy could actually prove that claim, he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would finally have proof of an actual crime >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perpetrated by Biden ... but that also assumes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Biden was the OCA, not the DoD, which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't make sense since it was a DoD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Operation: the SCG and OCA would reside within >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DoD, not the Executive Branch. "Strike 2" and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Strike 3" on Tommy demonstrating a lack of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge on Fed Security Regulations just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> within this thread.
    But do you think that's actually wise; just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> granting security clearances to anyone who's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had a family member die in the line of duty? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Particularly since Tommy's apparently trying to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask for things which they do not have a clear >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Need to Know" even if they did have the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate Security Clearance. "Strike 4". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can't see anything problematic with that, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can you, Sunshine?
    Tommy apparently believes that every private >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizen has an inalienable right just because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they have a personal curiosity to know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely every last thing that's going on in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Federal government at all levels, down to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and including what time each employee takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bathroom break & how much urine discharged. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Tommy's problem is that needs to turn himself >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around to realize that the same principle he's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demanding for this release also has to apply >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to every minute that he was working which was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paid (directly & indirectly) by the Government, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because “What's sauce for the goose is sauce >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the gander.” As a US citizen, I hereby >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demand that Tommy publish his own timekeeping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accounting here immediately and without delay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the last decade of his career, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's invariably illegal Waste/Fraud/Abuse >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> within. Refusal by Tommy to comply also reveals >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tommy as a hypocrite, for saying one thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while doing another.

    -hh

    Do you libtards REALLY think that Lyin' Biden's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disrespecting of Gold Star families is wise? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> REALLY???
    I don't believe you've shown that.

    LOL! What would it take to make you believe that? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The actual quotes would be a good start.

    Well, it is obvious that you didn't even read the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> referenced article, Fool. For example:

    "The lies, given incomplete reports, incorrect reports, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> total disrespect," Barnett said during her emotional >>>>>>>>>>>>>> recollection Monday. "There were gunshots. All I wanted >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to know [was] where my kid was, where he fell, how long >>>>>>>>>>>>>> did he last? Did he fight?"
    So that's a claim of "lies"....

    ...but no actual statement of what was supposedly lied >>>>>>>>>>>>> about.

    Did Lyin' Biden DISRESPECT these Gold Star Families, yes or >>>>>>>>>>>> no?
    I don't know.

    What I DO know is that you won't show anything that represents >>>>>>>>>>> and example of the "DISRESPECT" you claim happened.

    You asked for a quote and I gave you a quote of the families >>>>>>>>>> stating that Lyin' Biden disrespected them by, for one thing, >>>>>>>>>> lying to them - that sure is an example, is it not?
    No, Sunshine.

    I asked you for a quote that showed a LIE.

    Many of the families accused the Biden administration of lying about
    the botched exit. Nikoui said he was given false information and knew
    high-level officials were lying to him about the details of his son's
    tragic passing.
    Still waiting for you to quote something that ANYONE has claimed is a
    lie, Sunshine...
    I JUST DID, Fool!!!!!

    Hey Fool, you need to watch this, COMPLETELY:
    https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-treatment-gold-star-families-105043242.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall
    Hey, Sunshine.

    You tell me where there is one statement by Biden in all of that that >>>> you want to claim is false.

    :-)

    Did you watch the video?
    I'm not searching through videos for what you claim is there, Sunshine. >>
    You think there's something I should know...

    ...quote it.
    Here it is again: https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-treatment-gold-star-families-105043242.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall
    Just watch the first THIRTY SECONDS (the quote is CC'd)
    Watched the first thirty seconds.

    The only quote of Biden is that he saw his son brought home in a
    flag-draped coffin.

    Are you claiming that that was a lie, Sunshine?

    Try again...

    ...or admit you're a loser?

    :-)

    That is correct, Fool. And YOU are the LOSER!

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Aug 15 23:11:52 2023
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 10:47:54 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 22:41, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 10:40:00 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 22:29, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:34:57 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 17:25, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:51:34 PM UTC-7, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:33:09 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>> On 2023-08-15 15:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:27:10 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2023-08-14 19:51, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:43:41 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-08-13 11:24, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:07:05 PM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:35, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:20:23 PM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:18, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:44:59 AM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 18:21, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-7, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:15:19 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 10:45, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 6:48:55 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2:12:30 AM UTC-4, Tommy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI









    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE????? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those families lacked both the required >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Security Clearance and a Need-to-Know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...right? As military families they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should have long ago learned that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's Operational priorities which will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always deny them full transparency. If >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their children didn't educate them of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this before their deployment, that's on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the family, not the Service.

    Plus another question is when were they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> told that Trump had already reduced the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> total troop count to under 2,500 before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jan 20th which jeopardized their physical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security long before Biden took office? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That was Open Literature, so there's no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> excuse for them to have been ignorant of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. Ditto how Trump had previously >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> negotiated a withdrawal timeline: also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Literature.

    The truly sad part is that these >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> families were then exploited by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Republicans for petty artisan political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gain.


    Pure LIBTARD BULLSHIT EXCUSES!

    Nope: it is an understanding of, and
    compliance with Federal Security Regulations, a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> topic which Tommy has failed to demonstrate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge & mastery of.
    They could have been EASILY granted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security clearances for that specific event >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Lyin' Biden has the POWER to do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> False; authority to grant security clearances >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lies here in DoD, not the Executive Branch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biden could order declassification, but that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opens it up to everyone, including our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enemies.
    This wasn't done STRICTLY because it would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have EMBARRASSED the senile pervert. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Could have"? Sure.
    If Tommy could actually prove that claim, he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would finally have proof of an actual crime >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perpetrated by Biden ... but that also assumes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Biden was the OCA, not the DoD, which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't make sense since it was a DoD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Operation: the SCG and OCA would reside within >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DoD, not the Executive Branch. "Strike 2" and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Strike 3" on Tommy demonstrating a lack of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge on Fed Security Regulations just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> within this thread.
    But do you think that's actually wise; just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> granting security clearances to anyone who's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had a family member die in the line of duty? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Particularly since Tommy's apparently trying to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask for things which they do not have a clear >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Need to Know" even if they did have the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate Security Clearance. "Strike 4". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can't see anything problematic with that, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can you, Sunshine?
    Tommy apparently believes that every private >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizen has an inalienable right just because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they have a personal curiosity to know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely every last thing that's going on in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Federal government at all levels, down to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and including what time each employee takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bathroom break & how much urine discharged. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Tommy's problem is that needs to turn himself >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around to realize that the same principle he's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demanding for this release also has to apply >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to every minute that he was working which was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paid (directly & indirectly) by the Government, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because “What's sauce for the goose is sauce >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the gander.” As a US citizen, I hereby >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demand that Tommy publish his own timekeeping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accounting here immediately and without delay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the last decade of his career, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's invariably illegal Waste/Fraud/Abuse >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> within. Refusal by Tommy to comply also reveals >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tommy as a hypocrite, for saying one thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while doing another.

    -hh

    Do you libtards REALLY think that Lyin' Biden's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disrespecting of Gold Star families is wise? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> REALLY???
    I don't believe you've shown that.

    LOL! What would it take to make you believe that? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The actual quotes would be a good start.

    Well, it is obvious that you didn't even read the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> referenced article, Fool. For example:

    "The lies, given incomplete reports, incorrect reports, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> total disrespect," Barnett said during her emotional >>>>>>>>>>>>>> recollection Monday. "There were gunshots. All I wanted >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to know [was] where my kid was, where he fell, how long >>>>>>>>>>>>>> did he last? Did he fight?"
    So that's a claim of "lies"....

    ...but no actual statement of what was supposedly lied >>>>>>>>>>>>> about.

    Did Lyin' Biden DISRESPECT these Gold Star Families, yes or >>>>>>>>>>>> no?
    I don't know.

    What I DO know is that you won't show anything that represents >>>>>>>>>>> and example of the "DISRESPECT" you claim happened.

    You asked for a quote and I gave you a quote of the families >>>>>>>>>> stating that Lyin' Biden disrespected them by, for one thing, >>>>>>>>>> lying to them - that sure is an example, is it not?
    No, Sunshine.

    I asked you for a quote that showed a LIE.

    Many of the families accused the Biden administration of lying about
    the botched exit. Nikoui said he was given false information and knew
    high-level officials were lying to him about the details of his son's
    tragic passing.
    Still waiting for you to quote something that ANYONE has claimed is a
    lie, Sunshine...
    I JUST DID, Fool!!!!!

    Hey Fool, you need to watch this, COMPLETELY:
    https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-treatment-gold-star-families-105043242.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall
    Hey, Sunshine.

    You tell me where there is one statement by Biden in all of that that >>>> you want to claim is false.

    :-)

    Did you watch the video?
    I'm not searching through videos for what you claim is there, Sunshine. >>
    You think there's something I should know...

    ...quote it.
    Here it is again: https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-treatment-gold-star-families-105043242.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall
    Just watch the first THIRTY SECONDS (the quote is CC'd)
    Watched the first thirty seconds.

    The only quote of Biden is that he saw his son brought home in a
    flag-draped coffin.

    Are you claiming that that was a lie, Sunshine?

    Try again...

    ...or admit you're a loser?

    :-)

    BTW, are you too stupid that you don't know where Beau Biden died, because Lyin' Biden is?

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Tommy on Wed Aug 16 06:54:53 2023
    On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 2:11:54 AM UTC-4, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 10:47:54 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 22:41, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 10:40:00 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 22:29, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:34:57 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 17:25, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:51:34 PM UTC-7, Tommy wrote: >>>>>> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:33:09 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>> On 2023-08-15 15:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:27:10 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2023-08-14 19:51, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:43:41 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-08-13 11:24, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:07:05 PM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:35, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:20:23 PM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:18, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:44:59 AM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 18:21, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-7, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:15:19 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 10:45, Tommy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 6:48:55 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2:12:30 AM UTC-4, Tommy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI









    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE????? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those families lacked both the required >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Security Clearance and a Need-to-Know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...right? As military families they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should have long ago learned that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's Operational priorities which will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always deny them full transparency. If >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their children didn't educate them of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this before their deployment, that's on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the family, not the Service.

    Plus another question is when were they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> told that Trump had already reduced the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> total troop count to under 2,500 before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jan 20th which jeopardized their physical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security long before Biden took office? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That was Open Literature, so there's no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> excuse for them to have been ignorant of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. Ditto how Trump had previously >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> negotiated a withdrawal timeline: also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Literature.

    The truly sad part is that these >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> families were then exploited by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Republicans for petty artisan political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gain.


    Pure LIBTARD BULLSHIT EXCUSES!

    Nope: it is an understanding of, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compliance with Federal Security Regulations, a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> topic which Tommy has failed to demonstrate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge & mastery of.
    They could have been EASILY granted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security clearances for that specific event >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Lyin' Biden has the POWER to do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> False; authority to grant security clearances >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lies here in DoD, not the Executive Branch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biden could order declassification, but that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opens it up to everyone, including our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enemies.
    This wasn't done STRICTLY because it would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have EMBARRASSED the senile pervert. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Could have"? Sure.
    If Tommy could actually prove that claim, he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would finally have proof of an actual crime >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perpetrated by Biden ... but that also assumes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Biden was the OCA, not the DoD, which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't make sense since it was a DoD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Operation: the SCG and OCA would reside within >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DoD, not the Executive Branch. "Strike 2" and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Strike 3" on Tommy demonstrating a lack of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge on Fed Security Regulations just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> within this thread.
    But do you think that's actually wise; just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> granting security clearances to anyone who's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had a family member die in the line of duty? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Particularly since Tommy's apparently trying to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask for things which they do not have a clear >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Need to Know" even if they did have the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate Security Clearance. "Strike 4". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can't see anything problematic with that, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can you, Sunshine?
    Tommy apparently believes that every private >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizen has an inalienable right just because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they have a personal curiosity to know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely every last thing that's going on in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Federal government at all levels, down to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and including what time each employee takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bathroom break & how much urine discharged. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Tommy's problem is that needs to turn himself >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around to realize that the same principle he's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demanding for this release also has to apply >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to every minute that he was working which was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paid (directly & indirectly) by the Government, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because “What's sauce for the goose is sauce >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the gander.” As a US citizen, I hereby >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demand that Tommy publish his own timekeeping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accounting here immediately and without delay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the last decade of his career, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's invariably illegal Waste/Fraud/Abuse >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> within. Refusal by Tommy to comply also reveals >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tommy as a hypocrite, for saying one thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while doing another.

    -hh

    Do you libtards REALLY think that Lyin' Biden's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disrespecting of Gold Star families is wise? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> REALLY???
    I don't believe you've shown that.

    LOL! What would it take to make you believe that? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The actual quotes would be a good start.

    Well, it is obvious that you didn't even read the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> referenced article, Fool. For example:

    "The lies, given incomplete reports, incorrect reports, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> total disrespect," Barnett said during her emotional >>>>>>>>>>>>>> recollection Monday. "There were gunshots. All I wanted >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to know [was] where my kid was, where he fell, how long >>>>>>>>>>>>>> did he last? Did he fight?"
    So that's a claim of "lies"....

    ...but no actual statement of what was supposedly lied >>>>>>>>>>>>> about.

    Did Lyin' Biden DISRESPECT these Gold Star Families, yes or >>>>>>>>>>>> no?
    I don't know.

    What I DO know is that you won't show anything that represents >>>>>>>>>>> and example of the "DISRESPECT" you claim happened.

    You asked for a quote and I gave you a quote of the families >>>>>>>>>> stating that Lyin' Biden disrespected them by, for one thing, >>>>>>>>>> lying to them - that sure is an example, is it not?
    No, Sunshine.

    I asked you for a quote that showed a LIE.

    Many of the families accused the Biden administration of lying about
    the botched exit. Nikoui said he was given false information and knew
    high-level officials were lying to him about the details of his son's
    tragic passing.
    Still waiting for you to quote something that ANYONE has claimed is a
    lie, Sunshine...
    I JUST DID, Fool!!!!!

    Hey Fool, you need to watch this, COMPLETELY:
    https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-treatment-gold-star-families-105043242.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall
    Hey, Sunshine.

    You tell me where there is one statement by Biden in all of that that >>>> you want to claim is false.

    :-)

    Did you watch the video?
    I'm not searching through videos for what you claim is there, Sunshine. >>
    You think there's something I should know...

    ...quote it.
    Here it is again: https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-treatment-gold-star-families-105043242.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall
    Just watch the first THIRTY SECONDS (the quote is CC'd)
    Watched the first thirty seconds.

    The only quote of Biden is that he saw his son brought home in a flag-draped coffin.

    Are you claiming that that was a lie, Sunshine?

    Try again...

    ...or admit you're a loser?

    :-)

    BTW, are you too stupid that you don't know where Beau Biden died, because Lyin' Biden is?

    Beau died at Walter Reed Army Hospital. But what does that have to do with him then receiving a military funeral? Be specific Tommy.

    -hh

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to -hh on Wed Aug 16 09:15:11 2023
    On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 6:54:56 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 2:11:54 AM UTC-4, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 10:47:54 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 22:41, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 10:40:00 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 22:29, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:34:57 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 17:25, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:51:34 PM UTC-7, Tommy wrote: >>>>>> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:33:09 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>> On 2023-08-15 15:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:27:10 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2023-08-14 19:51, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:43:41 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-13 11:24, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:07:05 PM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:35, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:20:23 PM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:18, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:44:59 AM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 18:21, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-7, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:15:19 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 10:45, Tommy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 6:48:55 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2:12:30 AM UTC-4, Tommy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI









    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE????? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those families lacked both the required >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Security Clearance and a Need-to-Know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...right? As military families they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should have long ago learned that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's Operational priorities which will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always deny them full transparency. If >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their children didn't educate them of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this before their deployment, that's on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the family, not the Service. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Plus another question is when were they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> told that Trump had already reduced the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> total troop count to under 2,500 before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jan 20th which jeopardized their physical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security long before Biden took office? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That was Open Literature, so there's no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> excuse for them to have been ignorant of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. Ditto how Trump had previously >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> negotiated a withdrawal timeline: also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Literature.

    The truly sad part is that these >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> families were then exploited by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Republicans for petty artisan political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gain.


    Pure LIBTARD BULLSHIT EXCUSES!

    Nope: it is an understanding of, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compliance with Federal Security Regulations, a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> topic which Tommy has failed to demonstrate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge & mastery of.
    They could have been EASILY granted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security clearances for that specific event >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Lyin' Biden has the POWER to do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> False; authority to grant security clearances >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lies here in DoD, not the Executive Branch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biden could order declassification, but that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opens it up to everyone, including our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enemies.
    This wasn't done STRICTLY because it would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have EMBARRASSED the senile pervert. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Could have"? Sure.
    If Tommy could actually prove that claim, he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would finally have proof of an actual crime >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perpetrated by Biden ... but that also assumes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Biden was the OCA, not the DoD, which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't make sense since it was a DoD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Operation: the SCG and OCA would reside within >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DoD, not the Executive Branch. "Strike 2" and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Strike 3" on Tommy demonstrating a lack of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge on Fed Security Regulations just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> within this thread.
    But do you think that's actually wise; just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> granting security clearances to anyone who's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had a family member die in the line of duty? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Particularly since Tommy's apparently trying to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask for things which they do not have a clear >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Need to Know" even if they did have the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate Security Clearance. "Strike 4". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can't see anything problematic with that, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can you, Sunshine?
    Tommy apparently believes that every private >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizen has an inalienable right just because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they have a personal curiosity to know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely every last thing that's going on in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Federal government at all levels, down to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and including what time each employee takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bathroom break & how much urine discharged. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Tommy's problem is that needs to turn himself >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around to realize that the same principle he's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demanding for this release also has to apply >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to every minute that he was working which was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paid (directly & indirectly) by the Government, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because “What's sauce for the goose is sauce >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the gander.” As a US citizen, I hereby >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demand that Tommy publish his own timekeeping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accounting here immediately and without delay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the last decade of his career, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's invariably illegal Waste/Fraud/Abuse >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> within. Refusal by Tommy to comply also reveals >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tommy as a hypocrite, for saying one thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while doing another.

    -hh

    Do you libtards REALLY think that Lyin' Biden's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disrespecting of Gold Star families is wise? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> REALLY???
    I don't believe you've shown that.

    LOL! What would it take to make you believe that? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The actual quotes would be a good start.

    Well, it is obvious that you didn't even read the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> referenced article, Fool. For example:

    "The lies, given incomplete reports, incorrect reports, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> total disrespect," Barnett said during her emotional >>>>>>>>>>>>>> recollection Monday. "There were gunshots. All I wanted >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to know [was] where my kid was, where he fell, how long >>>>>>>>>>>>>> did he last? Did he fight?"
    So that's a claim of "lies"....

    ...but no actual statement of what was supposedly lied >>>>>>>>>>>>> about.

    Did Lyin' Biden DISRESPECT these Gold Star Families, yes or >>>>>>>>>>>> no?
    I don't know.

    What I DO know is that you won't show anything that represents
    and example of the "DISRESPECT" you claim happened. >>>>>>>>>>
    You asked for a quote and I gave you a quote of the families >>>>>>>>>> stating that Lyin' Biden disrespected them by, for one thing, >>>>>>>>>> lying to them - that sure is an example, is it not?
    No, Sunshine.

    I asked you for a quote that showed a LIE.

    Many of the families accused the Biden administration of lying about
    the botched exit. Nikoui said he was given false information and knew
    high-level officials were lying to him about the details of his son's
    tragic passing.
    Still waiting for you to quote something that ANYONE has claimed is a
    lie, Sunshine...
    I JUST DID, Fool!!!!!

    Hey Fool, you need to watch this, COMPLETELY:
    https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-treatment-gold-star-families-105043242.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall
    Hey, Sunshine.

    You tell me where there is one statement by Biden in all of that that
    you want to claim is false.

    :-)

    Did you watch the video?
    I'm not searching through videos for what you claim is there, Sunshine.

    You think there's something I should know...

    ...quote it.
    Here it is again: https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-treatment-gold-star-families-105043242.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall
    Just watch the first THIRTY SECONDS (the quote is CC'd)
    Watched the first thirty seconds.

    The only quote of Biden is that he saw his son brought home in a flag-draped coffin.

    Are you claiming that that was a lie, Sunshine?

    Try again...

    ...or admit you're a loser?

    :-)

    BTW, are you too stupid that you don't know where Beau Biden died, because Lyin' Biden is?
    Beau died at Walter Reed Army Hospital. But what does that have to do with him then receiving a military funeral? Be specific Tommy.

    -hh

    Lyin' Biden falsely claimed he died in combat, just like the Gold Star family sons.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Wed Aug 16 09:49:12 2023
    On 2023-08-16 09:15, Tommy wrote:
    Did you watch the video?
    I'm not searching through videos for what you claim is there, Sunshine. >>>>>>
    You think there's something I should know...

    ...quote it.
    Here it is again:
    https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-treatment-gold-star-families-105043242.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall
    Just watch the first THIRTY SECONDS (the quote is CC'd)
    Watched the first thirty seconds.

    The only quote of Biden is that he saw his son brought home in a
    flag-draped coffin.

    Are you claiming that that was a lie, Sunshine?

    Try again...

    ...or admit you're a loser?

    😄
    BTW, are you too stupid that you don't know where Beau Biden died, because Lyin' Biden is?
    Beau died at Walter Reed Army Hospital. But what does that have to do with >> him then receiving a military funeral? Be specific Tommy.

    -hh
    Lyin' Biden falsely claimed he died in combat, just like the Gold Star family sons.

    That's certainly not a claim that you've supported so far.

    What Biden said was that he knew what it was like to lose a son and to
    bring him home in a "flag-draped" coffin.

    Sounds like someone who has lost a son empathizing to me.

    It's certainly not a lie.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Wed Aug 16 10:05:08 2023
    On 2023-08-15 23:11, Tommy wrote:
    Here it is again:
    https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-treatment-gold-star-families-105043242.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall
    Just watch the first THIRTY SECONDS (the quote is CC'd)
    Watched the first thirty seconds.

    The only quote of Biden is that he saw his son brought home in a
    flag-draped coffin.

    Are you claiming that that was a lie, Sunshine?

    Try again...

    ...or admit you're a loser?

    😄
    BTW, are you too stupid that you don't know where Beau Biden died, because Lyin' Biden is?

    I'm sure Joe Biden knows exactly where his son died, Sunshine.

    You trying to make a mountain out of less than a molehill won't change that.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Tommy on Wed Aug 16 11:02:00 2023
    On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 12:15:14 PM UTC-4, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 6:54:56 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 2:11:54 AM UTC-4, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 10:47:54 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 22:41, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 10:40:00 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 22:29, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:34:57 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>> On 2023-08-15 17:25, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:51:34 PM UTC-7, Tommy wrote: >>>>>> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:33:09 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>> On 2023-08-15 15:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:27:10 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-14 19:51, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:43:41 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-13 11:24, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:07:05 PM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:35, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:20:23 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:18, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:44:59 AM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 18:21, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-7, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:15:19 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 10:45, Tommy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 6:48:55 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2:12:30 AM UTC-4, Tommy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI









    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE????? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those families lacked both the required >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Security Clearance and a Need-to-Know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...right? As military families they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should have long ago learned that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's Operational priorities which will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always deny them full transparency. If >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their children didn't educate them of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this before their deployment, that's on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the family, not the Service. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Plus another question is when were they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> told that Trump had already reduced the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> total troop count to under 2,500 before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jan 20th which jeopardized their physical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security long before Biden took office? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That was Open Literature, so there's no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> excuse for them to have been ignorant of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. Ditto how Trump had previously >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> negotiated a withdrawal timeline: also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Literature.

    The truly sad part is that these >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> families were then exploited by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Republicans for petty artisan political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gain.


    Pure LIBTARD BULLSHIT EXCUSES! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Nope: it is an understanding of, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compliance with Federal Security Regulations, a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> topic which Tommy has failed to demonstrate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge & mastery of.
    They could have been EASILY granted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security clearances for that specific event >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Lyin' Biden has the POWER to do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> False; authority to grant security clearances >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lies here in DoD, not the Executive Branch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biden could order declassification, but that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opens it up to everyone, including our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enemies.
    This wasn't done STRICTLY because it would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have EMBARRASSED the senile pervert. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Could have"? Sure.
    If Tommy could actually prove that claim, he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would finally have proof of an actual crime >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perpetrated by Biden ... but that also assumes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Biden was the OCA, not the DoD, which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't make sense since it was a DoD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Operation: the SCG and OCA would reside within >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DoD, not the Executive Branch. "Strike 2" and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Strike 3" on Tommy demonstrating a lack of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge on Fed Security Regulations just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> within this thread.
    But do you think that's actually wise; just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> granting security clearances to anyone who's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had a family member die in the line of duty? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Particularly since Tommy's apparently trying to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask for things which they do not have a clear >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Need to Know" even if they did have the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate Security Clearance. "Strike 4". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can't see anything problematic with that, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can you, Sunshine?
    Tommy apparently believes that every private >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizen has an inalienable right just because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they have a personal curiosity to know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely every last thing that's going on in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Federal government at all levels, down to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and including what time each employee takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bathroom break & how much urine discharged. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Tommy's problem is that needs to turn himself >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around to realize that the same principle he's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demanding for this release also has to apply >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to every minute that he was working which was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paid (directly & indirectly) by the Government, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because “What's sauce for the goose is sauce >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the gander.” As a US citizen, I hereby >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demand that Tommy publish his own timekeeping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accounting here immediately and without delay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the last decade of his career, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's invariably illegal Waste/Fraud/Abuse >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> within. Refusal by Tommy to comply also reveals >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tommy as a hypocrite, for saying one thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while doing another.

    -hh

    Do you libtards REALLY think that Lyin' Biden's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disrespecting of Gold Star families is wise? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> REALLY???
    I don't believe you've shown that.

    LOL! What would it take to make you believe that? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The actual quotes would be a good start. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, it is obvious that you didn't even read the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> referenced article, Fool. For example:

    "The lies, given incomplete reports, incorrect reports, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> total disrespect," Barnett said during her emotional >>>>>>>>>>>>>> recollection Monday. "There were gunshots. All I wanted >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to know [was] where my kid was, where he fell, how long >>>>>>>>>>>>>> did he last? Did he fight?"
    So that's a claim of "lies"....

    ...but no actual statement of what was supposedly lied >>>>>>>>>>>>> about.

    Did Lyin' Biden DISRESPECT these Gold Star Families, yes or
    no?
    I don't know.

    What I DO know is that you won't show anything that represents
    and example of the "DISRESPECT" you claim happened. >>>>>>>>>>
    You asked for a quote and I gave you a quote of the families
    stating that Lyin' Biden disrespected them by, for one thing,
    lying to them - that sure is an example, is it not? >>>>>>>>> No, Sunshine.

    I asked you for a quote that showed a LIE.

    Many of the families accused the Biden administration of lying about
    the botched exit. Nikoui said he was given false information and knew
    high-level officials were lying to him about the details of his son's
    tragic passing.
    Still waiting for you to quote something that ANYONE has claimed is a
    lie, Sunshine...
    I JUST DID, Fool!!!!!

    Hey Fool, you need to watch this, COMPLETELY:
    https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-treatment-gold-star-families-105043242.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall
    Hey, Sunshine.

    You tell me where there is one statement by Biden in all of that that
    you want to claim is false.

    :-)

    Did you watch the video?
    I'm not searching through videos for what you claim is there, Sunshine.

    You think there's something I should know...

    ...quote it.
    Here it is again: https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-treatment-gold-star-families-105043242.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall
    Just watch the first THIRTY SECONDS (the quote is CC'd)
    Watched the first thirty seconds.

    The only quote of Biden is that he saw his son brought home in a flag-draped coffin.

    Are you claiming that that was a lie, Sunshine?

    Try again...

    ...or admit you're a loser?

    :-)

    BTW, are you too stupid that you don't know where Beau Biden died, because Lyin' Biden is?

    Beau died at Walter Reed Army Hospital. But what does that have to do with him then receiving a military funeral? Be specific Tommy.


    Lyin' Biden falsely claimed he died in combat, just like the Gold Star family sons.

    Post the exact quote, Tommy, because there's a difference between "is" and "from".

    FYI, last I heard, the VA approval rates from burn pit related disability claims is
    running at something like ~80% of all submissions.

    -hh

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Aug 16 19:54:55 2023
    On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 9:49:15 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-16 09:15, Tommy wrote:
    Did you watch the video?
    I'm not searching through videos for what you claim is there, Sunshine.

    You think there's something I should know...

    ...quote it.
    Here it is again:
    https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-treatment-gold-star-families-105043242.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall
    Just watch the first THIRTY SECONDS (the quote is CC'd)
    Watched the first thirty seconds.

    The only quote of Biden is that he saw his son brought home in a
    flag-draped coffin.

    Are you claiming that that was a lie, Sunshine?

    Try again...

    ...or admit you're a loser?

    😄
    BTW, are you too stupid that you don't know where Beau Biden died, because Lyin' Biden is?
    Beau died at Walter Reed Army Hospital. But what does that have to do with
    him then receiving a military funeral? Be specific Tommy.

    -hh
    Lyin' Biden falsely claimed he died in combat, just like the Gold Star family sons.
    That's certainly not a claim that you've supported so far.

    What Biden said was that he knew what it was like to lose a son and to
    bring him home in a "flag-draped" coffin.

    Sounds like someone who has lost a son empathizing to me.

    It's certainly not a lie.

    What it sounds like is a lying, son of a bitch, which is exactly what it is.

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to -hh on Wed Aug 16 19:56:41 2023
    On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 11:02:03 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 12:15:14 PM UTC-4, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 6:54:56 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 2:11:54 AM UTC-4, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 10:47:54 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 22:41, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 10:40:00 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 22:29, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:34:57 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>> On 2023-08-15 17:25, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:51:34 PM UTC-7, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:33:09 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 15:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:27:10 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-14 19:51, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:43:41 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-13 11:24, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:07:05 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:35, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:20:23 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:18, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:44:59 AM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 18:21, Tommy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-7,
    -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:15:19 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 10:45, Tommy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 6:48:55 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2:12:30 AM UTC-4, Tommy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI









    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE????? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those families lacked both the required >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Security Clearance and a Need-to-Know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...right? As military families they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should have long ago learned that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's Operational priorities which will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always deny them full transparency. If >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their children didn't educate them of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this before their deployment, that's on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the family, not the Service. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Plus another question is when were they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> told that Trump had already reduced the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> total troop count to under 2,500 before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jan 20th which jeopardized their physical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security long before Biden took office? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That was Open Literature, so there's no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> excuse for them to have been ignorant of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. Ditto how Trump had previously >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> negotiated a withdrawal timeline: also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Literature.

    The truly sad part is that these >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> families were then exploited by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Republicans for petty artisan political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gain.


    Pure LIBTARD BULLSHIT EXCUSES! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Nope: it is an understanding of, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compliance with Federal Security Regulations, a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> topic which Tommy has failed to demonstrate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge & mastery of.
    They could have been EASILY granted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security clearances for that specific event >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Lyin' Biden has the POWER to do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> False; authority to grant security clearances >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lies here in DoD, not the Executive Branch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biden could order declassification, but that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opens it up to everyone, including our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enemies.
    This wasn't done STRICTLY because it would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have EMBARRASSED the senile pervert. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Could have"? Sure.
    If Tommy could actually prove that claim, he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would finally have proof of an actual crime >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perpetrated by Biden ... but that also assumes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Biden was the OCA, not the DoD, which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't make sense since it was a DoD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Operation: the SCG and OCA would reside within >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DoD, not the Executive Branch. "Strike 2" and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Strike 3" on Tommy demonstrating a lack of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge on Fed Security Regulations just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> within this thread.
    But do you think that's actually wise; just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> granting security clearances to anyone who's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had a family member die in the line of duty? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Particularly since Tommy's apparently trying to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask for things which they do not have a clear >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Need to Know" even if they did have the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate Security Clearance. "Strike 4". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can't see anything problematic with that, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can you, Sunshine?
    Tommy apparently believes that every private >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizen has an inalienable right just because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they have a personal curiosity to know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely every last thing that's going on in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Federal government at all levels, down to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and including what time each employee takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bathroom break & how much urine discharged. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Tommy's problem is that needs to turn himself >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around to realize that the same principle he's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demanding for this release also has to apply >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to every minute that he was working which was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paid (directly & indirectly) by the Government, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because “What's sauce for the goose is sauce >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the gander.” As a US citizen, I hereby >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demand that Tommy publish his own timekeeping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accounting here immediately and without delay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the last decade of his career, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's invariably illegal Waste/Fraud/Abuse >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> within. Refusal by Tommy to comply also reveals >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tommy as a hypocrite, for saying one thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while doing another.

    -hh

    Do you libtards REALLY think that Lyin' Biden's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disrespecting of Gold Star families is wise? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> REALLY???
    I don't believe you've shown that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    LOL! What would it take to make you believe that? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The actual quotes would be a good start. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, it is obvious that you didn't even read the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> referenced article, Fool. For example:

    "The lies, given incomplete reports, incorrect reports,
    total disrespect," Barnett said during her emotional >>>>>>>>>>>>>> recollection Monday. "There were gunshots. All I wanted
    to know [was] where my kid was, where he fell, how long
    did he last? Did he fight?"
    So that's a claim of "lies"....

    ...but no actual statement of what was supposedly lied >>>>>>>>>>>>> about.

    Did Lyin' Biden DISRESPECT these Gold Star Families, yes or
    no?
    I don't know.

    What I DO know is that you won't show anything that represents
    and example of the "DISRESPECT" you claim happened. >>>>>>>>>>
    You asked for a quote and I gave you a quote of the families
    stating that Lyin' Biden disrespected them by, for one thing,
    lying to them - that sure is an example, is it not? >>>>>>>>> No, Sunshine.

    I asked you for a quote that showed a LIE.

    Many of the families accused the Biden administration of lying about
    the botched exit. Nikoui said he was given false information and knew
    high-level officials were lying to him about the details of his son's
    tragic passing.
    Still waiting for you to quote something that ANYONE has claimed is a
    lie, Sunshine...
    I JUST DID, Fool!!!!!

    Hey Fool, you need to watch this, COMPLETELY:
    https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-treatment-gold-star-families-105043242.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall
    Hey, Sunshine.

    You tell me where there is one statement by Biden in all of that that
    you want to claim is false.

    :-)

    Did you watch the video?
    I'm not searching through videos for what you claim is there, Sunshine.

    You think there's something I should know...

    ...quote it.
    Here it is again: https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-treatment-gold-star-families-105043242.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall
    Just watch the first THIRTY SECONDS (the quote is CC'd)
    Watched the first thirty seconds.

    The only quote of Biden is that he saw his son brought home in a flag-draped coffin.

    Are you claiming that that was a lie, Sunshine?

    Try again...

    ...or admit you're a loser?

    :-)

    BTW, are you too stupid that you don't know where Beau Biden died, because Lyin' Biden is?

    Beau died at Walter Reed Army Hospital. But what does that have to do with
    him then receiving a military funeral? Be specific Tommy.


    Lyin' Biden falsely claimed he died in combat, just like the Gold Star family sons.
    Post the exact quote, Tommy, because there's a difference between "is" and "from".

    FYI, last I heard, the VA approval rates from burn pit related disability claims is
    running at something like ~80% of all submissions.

    -hh

    Here's an exact quote for you: FUCK OFF! You libtards are just COMPOUNDING the disrespect for these Gold Star families, and it is DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Wed Aug 16 20:10:44 2023
    On 2023-08-16 19:54, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 9:49:15 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-16 09:15, Tommy wrote:
    Did you watch the video?
    I'm not searching through videos for what you claim is there, Sunshine.

    You think there's something I should know...

    ...quote it.
    Here it is again:
    https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-treatment-gold-star-families-105043242.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall
    Just watch the first THIRTY SECONDS (the quote is CC'd)
    Watched the first thirty seconds.

    The only quote of Biden is that he saw his son brought home in a
    flag-draped coffin.

    Are you claiming that that was a lie, Sunshine?

    Try again...

    ...or admit you're a loser?

    😄
    BTW, are you too stupid that you don't know where Beau Biden died, because Lyin' Biden is?
    Beau died at Walter Reed Army Hospital. But what does that have to do with >>>> him then receiving a military funeral? Be specific Tommy.

    -hh
    Lyin' Biden falsely claimed he died in combat, just like the Gold Star family sons.
    That's certainly not a claim that you've supported so far.

    What Biden said was that he knew what it was like to lose a son and to
    bring him home in a "flag-draped" coffin.

    Sounds like someone who has lost a son empathizing to me.

    It's certainly not a lie.

    What it sounds like is a lying, son of a bitch, which is exactly what it is.

    Nope.

    It was a father who knows what it's like to lose a child empathizing
    with someone going through the same thing.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Tommy on Thu Aug 17 10:14:37 2023
    On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 10:56:45 PM UTC-4, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 11:02:03 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 12:15:14 PM UTC-4, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 6:54:56 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 2:11:54 AM UTC-4, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 10:47:54 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 22:41, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 10:40:00 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 22:29, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:34:57 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>> On 2023-08-15 17:25, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:51:34 PM UTC-7, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:33:09 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-15 15:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:27:10 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-14 19:51, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:43:41 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-13 11:24, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:07:05 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:35, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:20:23 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-12 21:18, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:44:59 AM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 18:21, Tommy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-7,
    -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:15:19 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 10:45, Tommy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 6:48:55 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2:12:30 AM UTC-4, Tommy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-outraged-by-biden-admins-obvious-lies-on-afghan-exit-im-not-stupid/ar-AA1eZuHI









    How can this senile pervert even SHOW HIS FACE????? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those families lacked both the required >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Security Clearance and a Need-to-Know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...right? As military families they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should have long ago learned that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's Operational priorities which will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always deny them full transparency. If >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their children didn't educate them of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this before their deployment, that's on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the family, not the Service. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Plus another question is when were they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> told that Trump had already reduced the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> total troop count to under 2,500 before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jan 20th which jeopardized their physical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security long before Biden took office? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That was Open Literature, so there's no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> excuse for them to have been ignorant of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. Ditto how Trump had previously >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> negotiated a withdrawal timeline: also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Literature.

    The truly sad part is that these >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> families were then exploited by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Republicans for petty artisan political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gain.


    Pure LIBTARD BULLSHIT EXCUSES! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Nope: it is an understanding of, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compliance with Federal Security Regulations, a
    topic which Tommy has failed to demonstrate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge & mastery of.
    They could have been EASILY granted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security clearances for that specific event >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Lyin' Biden has the POWER to do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> False; authority to grant security clearances >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lies here in DoD, not the Executive Branch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biden could order declassification, but that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opens it up to everyone, including our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enemies.
    This wasn't done STRICTLY because it would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have EMBARRASSED the senile pervert. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Could have"? Sure.
    If Tommy could actually prove that claim, he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would finally have proof of an actual crime >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perpetrated by Biden ... but that also assumes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Biden was the OCA, not the DoD, which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't make sense since it was a DoD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Operation: the SCG and OCA would reside within >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DoD, not the Executive Branch. "Strike 2" and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Strike 3" on Tommy demonstrating a lack of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge on Fed Security Regulations just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> within this thread.
    But do you think that's actually wise; just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> granting security clearances to anyone who's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had a family member die in the line of duty? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Particularly since Tommy's apparently trying to
    ask for things which they do not have a clear >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Need to Know" even if they did have the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate Security Clearance. "Strike 4". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can't see anything problematic with that, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can you, Sunshine?
    Tommy apparently believes that every private >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizen has an inalienable right just because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they have a personal curiosity to know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely every last thing that's going on in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Federal government at all levels, down to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and including what time each employee takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bathroom break & how much urine discharged. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Tommy's problem is that needs to turn himself >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around to realize that the same principle he's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demanding for this release also has to apply >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to every minute that he was working which was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paid (directly & indirectly) by the Government,
    because “What's sauce for the goose is sauce >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the gander.” As a US citizen, I hereby >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demand that Tommy publish his own timekeeping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accounting here immediately and without delay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the last decade of his career, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's invariably illegal Waste/Fraud/Abuse >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> within. Refusal by Tommy to comply also reveals
    Tommy as a hypocrite, for saying one thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while doing another.

    -hh

    Do you libtards REALLY think that Lyin' Biden's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disrespecting of Gold Star families is wise? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> REALLY???
    I don't believe you've shown that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    LOL! What would it take to make you believe that? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The actual quotes would be a good start. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, it is obvious that you didn't even read the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> referenced article, Fool. For example: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "The lies, given incomplete reports, incorrect reports,
    total disrespect," Barnett said during her emotional
    recollection Monday. "There were gunshots. All I wanted
    to know [was] where my kid was, where he fell, how long
    did he last? Did he fight?"
    So that's a claim of "lies"....

    ...but no actual statement of what was supposedly lied
    about.

    Did Lyin' Biden DISRESPECT these Gold Star Families, yes or
    no?
    I don't know.

    What I DO know is that you won't show anything that represents
    and example of the "DISRESPECT" you claim happened. >>>>>>>>>>
    You asked for a quote and I gave you a quote of the families
    stating that Lyin' Biden disrespected them by, for one thing,
    lying to them - that sure is an example, is it not? >>>>>>>>> No, Sunshine.

    I asked you for a quote that showed a LIE.

    Many of the families accused the Biden administration of lying about
    the botched exit. Nikoui said he was given false information and knew
    high-level officials were lying to him about the details of his son's
    tragic passing.
    Still waiting for you to quote something that ANYONE has claimed is a
    lie, Sunshine...
    I JUST DID, Fool!!!!!

    Hey Fool, you need to watch this, COMPLETELY:
    https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-treatment-gold-star-families-105043242.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall
    Hey, Sunshine.

    You tell me where there is one statement by Biden in all of that that
    you want to claim is false.

    :-)

    Did you watch the video?
    I'm not searching through videos for what you claim is there, Sunshine.

    You think there's something I should know...

    ...quote it.
    Here it is again: https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-treatment-gold-star-families-105043242.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall
    Just watch the first THIRTY SECONDS (the quote is CC'd)
    Watched the first thirty seconds.

    The only quote of Biden is that he saw his son brought home in a flag-draped coffin.

    Are you claiming that that was a lie, Sunshine?

    Try again...

    ...or admit you're a loser?

    :-)

    BTW, are you too stupid that you don't know where Beau Biden died, because Lyin' Biden is?

    Beau died at Walter Reed Army Hospital. But what does that have to do with
    him then receiving a military funeral? Be specific Tommy.


    Lyin' Biden falsely claimed he died in combat, just like the Gold Star family sons.
    Post the exact quote, Tommy, because there's a difference between "is" and "from".

    FYI, last I heard, the VA approval rates from burn pit related disability claims is
    running at something like ~80% of all submissions.

    -hh
    Here's an exact quote for you: FUCK OFF! You libtards are just COMPOUNDING the
    disrespect for these Gold Star families, and it is DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Translation: Tommy is mad because he once again got caught in a lie.

    -hh

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to -hh on Thu Aug 17 10:39:37 2023
    On 2023-08-17 10:14, -hh wrote:
    The only quote of Biden is that he saw his son brought home in a >>>>>>> flag-draped coffin.

    Are you claiming that that was a lie, Sunshine?

    Try again...

    ...or admit you're a loser?

    😄
    BTW, are you too stupid that you don't know where Beau Biden died, because Lyin' Biden is?
    Beau died at Walter Reed Army Hospital. But what does that have to do with
    him then receiving a military funeral? Be specific Tommy.

    Lyin' Biden falsely claimed he died in combat, just like the Gold Star family sons.
    Post the exact quote, Tommy, because there's a difference between "is" and "from".

    FYI, last I heard, the VA approval rates from burn pit related disability claims is
    running at something like ~80% of all submissions.

    -hh
    Here's an exact quote for you: FUCK OFF! You libtards are just COMPOUNDING the
    disrespect for these Gold Star families, and it is DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Translation: Tommy is mad because he once again got caught in a lie.

    That was my take!

    :-)

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu Aug 17 14:41:05 2023
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:39:41 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 10:14, -hh wrote:
    The only quote of Biden is that he saw his son brought home in a >>>>>>> flag-draped coffin.

    Are you claiming that that was a lie, Sunshine?

    Try again...

    ...or admit you're a loser?

    😄
    BTW, are you too stupid that you don't know where Beau Biden died, because Lyin' Biden is?
    Beau died at Walter Reed Army Hospital. But what does that have to do with
    him then receiving a military funeral? Be specific Tommy.

    Lyin' Biden falsely claimed he died in combat, just like the Gold Star family sons.
    Post the exact quote, Tommy, because there's a difference between "is" and "from".

    FYI, last I heard, the VA approval rates from burn pit related disability claims is
    running at something like ~80% of all submissions.

    -hh
    Here's an exact quote for you: FUCK OFF! You libtards are just COMPOUNDING the
    disrespect for these Gold Star families, and it is DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Translation: Tommy is mad because he once again got caught in a lie.
    That was my take!

    :-)

    LOL! You guys are the masters of LYING!! You have learned from the master, Lyin' Biden. What is pathetic is that is ALL you libtards have, LIES! You have NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS to point to, so you HAVE TO LIE!!!!

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Thu Aug 17 15:04:56 2023
    On 2023-08-17 14:41, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:39:41 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 10:14, -hh wrote:
    The only quote of Biden is that he saw his son brought home in a >>>>>>>>> flag-draped coffin.

    Are you claiming that that was a lie, Sunshine?

    Try again...

    ...or admit you're a loser?

    😄
    BTW, are you too stupid that you don't know where Beau Biden died, because Lyin' Biden is?
    Beau died at Walter Reed Army Hospital. But what does that have to do with
    him then receiving a military funeral? Be specific Tommy.

    Lyin' Biden falsely claimed he died in combat, just like the Gold Star family sons.
    Post the exact quote, Tommy, because there's a difference between "is" and "from".

    FYI, last I heard, the VA approval rates from burn pit related disability claims is
    running at something like ~80% of all submissions.

    -hh
    Here's an exact quote for you: FUCK OFF! You libtards are just COMPOUNDING the
    disrespect for these Gold Star families, and it is DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Translation: Tommy is mad because he once again got caught in a lie.
    That was my take!

    :-)

    LOL! You guys are the masters of LYING!! You have learned from the master, Lyin' Biden. What is pathetic is that is ALL you libtards have, LIES! You have NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS to point to, so you HAVE TO LIE!!!!

    And yet you have yet to quote any actual lie.

    Weird.

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Aug 21 19:08:42 2023
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 3:05:04 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 14:41, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:39:41 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 10:14, -hh wrote:
    The only quote of Biden is that he saw his son brought home in a >>>>>>>>> flag-draped coffin.

    Are you claiming that that was a lie, Sunshine?

    Try again...

    ...or admit you're a loser?

    😄
    BTW, are you too stupid that you don't know where Beau Biden died, because Lyin' Biden is?
    Beau died at Walter Reed Army Hospital. But what does that have to do with
    him then receiving a military funeral? Be specific Tommy.

    Lyin' Biden falsely claimed he died in combat, just like the Gold Star family sons.
    Post the exact quote, Tommy, because there's a difference between "is" and "from".

    FYI, last I heard, the VA approval rates from burn pit related disability claims is
    running at something like ~80% of all submissions.

    -hh
    Here's an exact quote for you: FUCK OFF! You libtards are just COMPOUNDING the
    disrespect for these Gold Star families, and it is DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Translation: Tommy is mad because he once again got caught in a lie.
    That was my take!

    :-)

    LOL! You guys are the masters of LYING!! You have learned from the master, Lyin' Biden. What is pathetic is that is ALL you libtards have, LIES! You have NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS to point to, so you HAVE TO LIE!!!!
    And yet you have yet to quote any actual lie.

    Weird.

    Hey Fool, I DID - go read it. Bottom line: Gold Star Families said Lyin' Biden DISRESPECTED THEM! END OF STORY!!!!

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Mon Aug 21 19:43:56 2023
    On 2023-08-21 19:08, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 3:05:04 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 14:41, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:39:41 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 10:14, -hh wrote:
    The only quote of Biden is that he saw his son brought home in a >>>>>>>>>>> flag-draped coffin.

    Are you claiming that that was a lie, Sunshine?

    Try again...

    ...or admit you're a loser?

    😄
    BTW, are you too stupid that you don't know where Beau Biden died, because Lyin' Biden is?
    Beau died at Walter Reed Army Hospital. But what does that have to do with
    him then receiving a military funeral? Be specific Tommy.

    Lyin' Biden falsely claimed he died in combat, just like the Gold Star family sons.
    Post the exact quote, Tommy, because there's a difference between "is" and "from".

    FYI, last I heard, the VA approval rates from burn pit related disability claims is
    running at something like ~80% of all submissions.

    -hh
    Here's an exact quote for you: FUCK OFF! You libtards are just COMPOUNDING the
    disrespect for these Gold Star families, and it is DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Translation: Tommy is mad because he once again got caught in a lie.
    That was my take!

    :-)

    LOL! You guys are the masters of LYING!! You have learned from the master, Lyin' Biden. What is pathetic is that is ALL you libtards have, LIES! You have NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS to point to, so you HAVE TO LIE!!!!
    And yet you have yet to quote any actual lie.

    Weird.

    Hey Fool, I DID - go read it. Bottom line: Gold Star Families said Lyin' Biden DISRESPECTED THEM! END OF STORY!!!!

    Nope.

    You have yet to quote anything you claim is an actual lie with regard to
    the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Aug 22 11:23:00 2023
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 7:44:02 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-21 19:08, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 3:05:04 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 14:41, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:39:41 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 10:14, -hh wrote:
    The only quote of Biden is that he saw his son brought home in a >>>>>>>>>>> flag-draped coffin.

    Are you claiming that that was a lie, Sunshine?

    Try again...

    ...or admit you're a loser?

    😄
    BTW, are you too stupid that you don't know where Beau Biden died, because Lyin' Biden is?
    Beau died at Walter Reed Army Hospital. But what does that have to do with
    him then receiving a military funeral? Be specific Tommy. >>>>>>>>>
    Lyin' Biden falsely claimed he died in combat, just like the Gold Star family sons.
    Post the exact quote, Tommy, because there's a difference between "is" and "from".

    FYI, last I heard, the VA approval rates from burn pit related disability claims is
    running at something like ~80% of all submissions.

    -hh
    Here's an exact quote for you: FUCK OFF! You libtards are just COMPOUNDING the
    disrespect for these Gold Star families, and it is DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Translation: Tommy is mad because he once again got caught in a lie. >>>> That was my take!

    :-)

    LOL! You guys are the masters of LYING!! You have learned from the master, Lyin' Biden. What is pathetic is that is ALL you libtards have, LIES! You have NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS to point to, so you HAVE TO LIE!!!!
    And yet you have yet to quote any actual lie.

    Weird.

    Hey Fool, I DID - go read it. Bottom line: Gold Star Families said Lyin' Biden DISRESPECTED THEM! END OF STORY!!!!
    Nope.

    You have yet to quote anything you claim is an actual lie with regard to
    the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

    Bottom line: Gold Star Families said Lyin' Biden DISRESPECTED THEM! END OF STORY!!!!

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Tue Aug 22 12:55:30 2023
    On 2023-08-22 11:23, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 7:44:02 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-21 19:08, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 3:05:04 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 14:41, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:39:41 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 10:14, -hh wrote:
    The only quote of Biden is that he saw his son brought home in a >>>>>>>>>>>>> flag-draped coffin.

    Are you claiming that that was a lie, Sunshine?

    Try again...

    ...or admit you're a loser?

    😄
    BTW, are you too stupid that you don't know where Beau Biden died, because Lyin' Biden is?
    Beau died at Walter Reed Army Hospital. But what does that have to do with
    him then receiving a military funeral? Be specific Tommy. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Lyin' Biden falsely claimed he died in combat, just like the Gold Star family sons.
    Post the exact quote, Tommy, because there's a difference between "is" and "from".

    FYI, last I heard, the VA approval rates from burn pit related disability claims is
    running at something like ~80% of all submissions.

    -hh
    Here's an exact quote for you: FUCK OFF! You libtards are just COMPOUNDING the
    disrespect for these Gold Star families, and it is DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Translation: Tommy is mad because he once again got caught in a lie. >>>>>> That was my take!

    :-)

    LOL! You guys are the masters of LYING!! You have learned from the master, Lyin' Biden. What is pathetic is that is ALL you libtards have, LIES! You have NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS to point to, so you HAVE TO LIE!!!!
    And yet you have yet to quote any actual lie.

    Weird.

    Hey Fool, I DID - go read it. Bottom line: Gold Star Families said Lyin' Biden DISRESPECTED THEM! END OF STORY!!!!
    Nope.

    You have yet to quote anything you claim is an actual lie with regard to
    the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

    Bottom line: Gold Star Families said Lyin' Biden DISRESPECTED THEM! END OF STORY!!!!

    Bottom line:

    You claim that there have been lies...

    ...but you can't actually provide a quote...

    ...let alone a quote and a source.

    End of story.

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Sep 6 17:17:53 2023
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 12:55:33 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-22 11:23, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 7:44:02 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-21 19:08, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 3:05:04 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 14:41, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:39:41 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>> On 2023-08-17 10:14, -hh wrote:
    The only quote of Biden is that he saw his son brought home in a
    flag-draped coffin.

    Are you claiming that that was a lie, Sunshine?

    Try again...

    ...or admit you're a loser?

    😄
    BTW, are you too stupid that you don't know where Beau Biden died, because Lyin' Biden is?
    Beau died at Walter Reed Army Hospital. But what does that have to do with
    him then receiving a military funeral? Be specific Tommy. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Lyin' Biden falsely claimed he died in combat, just like the Gold Star family sons.
    Post the exact quote, Tommy, because there's a difference between "is" and "from".

    FYI, last I heard, the VA approval rates from burn pit related disability claims is
    running at something like ~80% of all submissions.

    -hh
    Here's an exact quote for you: FUCK OFF! You libtards are just COMPOUNDING the
    disrespect for these Gold Star families, and it is DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Translation: Tommy is mad because he once again got caught in a lie. >>>>>> That was my take!

    :-)

    LOL! You guys are the masters of LYING!! You have learned from the master, Lyin' Biden. What is pathetic is that is ALL you libtards have, LIES! You have NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS to point to, so you HAVE TO LIE!!!!
    And yet you have yet to quote any actual lie.

    Weird.

    Hey Fool, I DID - go read it. Bottom line: Gold Star Families said Lyin' Biden DISRESPECTED THEM! END OF STORY!!!!
    Nope.

    You have yet to quote anything you claim is an actual lie with regard to >> the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

    Bottom line: Gold Star Families said Lyin' Biden DISRESPECTED THEM! END OF STORY!!!!
    Bottom line:

    You claim that there have been lies...

    ...but you can't actually provide a quote...

    ...let alone a quote and a source.

    End of story.

    Lyin' Biden LIED about WHERE Beau died and that the Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Thu Sep 7 10:33:13 2023
    On 2023-09-06 20:17, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 12:55:33 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-22 11:23, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 7:44:02 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-21 19:08, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 3:05:04 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 14:41, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:39:41 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2023-08-17 10:14, -hh wrote:
    The only quote of Biden is that he saw his son brought home in a
    flag-draped coffin.

    Are you claiming that that was a lie, Sunshine?

    Try again...

    ...or admit you're a loser?

    😄
    BTW, are you too stupid that you don't know where Beau Biden died, because Lyin' Biden is?
    Beau died at Walter Reed Army Hospital. But what does that have to do with
    him then receiving a military funeral? Be specific Tommy. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Lyin' Biden falsely claimed he died in combat, just like the Gold Star family sons.
    Post the exact quote, Tommy, because there's a difference between "is" and "from".

    FYI, last I heard, the VA approval rates from burn pit related disability claims is
    running at something like ~80% of all submissions.

    -hh
    Here's an exact quote for you: FUCK OFF! You libtards are just COMPOUNDING the
    disrespect for these Gold Star families, and it is DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Translation: Tommy is mad because he once again got caught in a lie. >>>>>>>> That was my take!

    :-)

    LOL! You guys are the masters of LYING!! You have learned from the master, Lyin' Biden. What is pathetic is that is ALL you libtards have, LIES! You have NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS to point to, so you HAVE TO LIE!!!!
    And yet you have yet to quote any actual lie.

    Weird.

    Hey Fool, I DID - go read it. Bottom line: Gold Star Families said Lyin' Biden DISRESPECTED THEM! END OF STORY!!!!
    Nope.

    You have yet to quote anything you claim is an actual lie with regard to >>>> the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

    Bottom line: Gold Star Families said Lyin' Biden DISRESPECTED THEM! END OF STORY!!!!
    Bottom line:

    You claim that there have been lies...

    ...but you can't actually provide a quote...

    ...let alone a quote and a source.

    End of story.

    Lyin' Biden LIED about WHERE Beau died and that the Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS.

    Nope. He stated his belief that his son's cancer was a result of his
    service in Iraq.

    Why is it you insist that none of Trump's words can be taken literally,
    but insist that the words of anyone with whom you disagree should be?

    :-)

    And I'd like to see the quote about Afghanistan, please.

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun Sep 10 20:50:56 2023
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 7:33:19 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-06 20:17, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 12:55:33 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-22 11:23, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 7:44:02 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-21 19:08, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 3:05:04 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 14:41, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:39:41 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2023-08-17 10:14, -hh wrote:
    The only quote of Biden is that he saw his son brought home in a
    flag-draped coffin.

    Are you claiming that that was a lie, Sunshine? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Try again...

    ...or admit you're a loser?

    😄
    BTW, are you too stupid that you don't know where Beau Biden died, because Lyin' Biden is?
    Beau died at Walter Reed Army Hospital. But what does that have to do with
    him then receiving a military funeral? Be specific Tommy. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Lyin' Biden falsely claimed he died in combat, just like the Gold Star family sons.
    Post the exact quote, Tommy, because there's a difference between "is" and "from".

    FYI, last I heard, the VA approval rates from burn pit related disability claims is
    running at something like ~80% of all submissions.

    -hh
    Here's an exact quote for you: FUCK OFF! You libtards are just COMPOUNDING the
    disrespect for these Gold Star families, and it is DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Translation: Tommy is mad because he once again got caught in a lie.
    That was my take!

    :-)

    LOL! You guys are the masters of LYING!! You have learned from the master, Lyin' Biden. What is pathetic is that is ALL you libtards have, LIES! You have NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS to point to, so you HAVE TO LIE!!!!
    And yet you have yet to quote any actual lie.

    Weird.

    Hey Fool, I DID - go read it. Bottom line: Gold Star Families said Lyin' Biden DISRESPECTED THEM! END OF STORY!!!!
    Nope.

    You have yet to quote anything you claim is an actual lie with regard to
    the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

    Bottom line: Gold Star Families said Lyin' Biden DISRESPECTED THEM! END OF STORY!!!!
    Bottom line:

    You claim that there have been lies...

    ...but you can't actually provide a quote...

    ...let alone a quote and a source.

    End of story.

    Lyin' Biden LIED about WHERE Beau died and that the Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS.
    Nope. He stated his belief that his son's cancer was a result of his
    service in Iraq.


    Why is it you insist that none of Trump's words can be taken literally,
    but insist that the words of anyone with whom you disagree should be?

    :-)

    And I'd like to see the quote about Afghanistan, please.

    Hey Fool, this is just ONE EXAMPLE of your MANY LIES!

    Also, the senile pervert DID look at his watch up to THIRTEEN TIMES, as WITNESSED by family members AT the ceremony!
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-check-watch-13/

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Sun Sep 10 21:54:58 2023
    On 2023-09-10 20:50, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 7:33:19 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-06 20:17, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 12:55:33 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-22 11:23, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 7:44:02 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-21 19:08, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 3:05:04 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 14:41, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:39:41 AM UTC-7,
    Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 10:14, -hh wrote:
    The only quote of Biden is that he
    saw his son brought home in a
    flag-draped coffin.

    Are you claiming that that was a lie,
    Sunshine?

    Try again...

    ...or admit you're a loser?

    😄
    BTW, are you too stupid that you don't
    know where Beau Biden died, because
    Lyin' Biden is?
    Beau died at Walter Reed Army Hospital.
    But what does that have to do with him
    then receiving a military funeral? Be
    specific Tommy.

    Lyin' Biden falsely claimed he died in
    combat, just like the Gold Star family
    sons.
    Post the exact quote, Tommy, because there's
    a difference between "is" and "from".

    FYI, last I heard, the VA approval rates from
    burn pit related disability claims is running
    at something like ~80% of all submissions.

    -hh
    Here's an exact quote for you: FUCK OFF! You
    libtards are just COMPOUNDING the disrespect
    for these Gold Star families, and it is
    DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Translation: Tommy is mad because he once again
    got caught in a lie.
    That was my take!

    :-)

    LOL! You guys are the masters of LYING!! You have
    learned from the master, Lyin' Biden. What is
    pathetic is that is ALL you libtards have, LIES! You
    have NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS to point to, so you HAVE TO
    LIE!!!!
    And yet you have yet to quote any actual lie.

    Weird.

    Hey Fool, I DID - go read it. Bottom line: Gold Star
    Families said Lyin' Biden DISRESPECTED THEM! END OF
    STORY!!!!
    Nope.

    You have yet to quote anything you claim is an actual lie
    with regard to the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

    Bottom line: Gold Star Families said Lyin' Biden DISRESPECTED
    THEM! END OF STORY!!!!
    Bottom line:

    You claim that there have been lies...

    ...but you can't actually provide a quote...

    ...let alone a quote and a source.

    End of story.

    Lyin' Biden LIED about WHERE Beau died and that the Afghanistan
    withdrawal was a SUCCESS.
    Nope. He stated his belief that his son's cancer was a result of
    his service in Iraq.


    Why is it you insist that none of Trump's words can be taken
    literally, but insist that the words of anyone with whom you
    disagree should be?

    :-)

    And I'd like to see the quote about Afghanistan, please.

    Hey Fool, this is just ONE EXAMPLE of your MANY LIES!

    What lie am I supposed to have told, Sunshine?


    Also, the senile pervert DID look at his watch up to THIRTEEN TIMES,
    as WITNESSED by family members AT the ceremony! https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-check-watch-13/

    'Videos and photographs show U.S. President Joe Biden checking his watch
    at least twice '

    So your own cite disagrees with you...

    ...and you DO get that a US president has a lot of stuff going on right...

    ...and you get that you're now completely running from me asking for you
    to provide a quote about Afghanistan...

    ...right, Sunshine?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Sep 11 04:56:41 2023
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 12:55:02 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-10 20:50, Tommy wrote:


    Also, the senile pervert DID look at his watch up to THIRTEEN TIMES,
    as WITNESSED by family members AT the ceremony! https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-check-watch-13/

    'Videos and photographs show U.S. President Joe Biden checking his watch
    at least twice '

    So your own cite disagrees with you...

    Egads, this old trope again?

    ...and you DO get that a US president has a lot of stuff going on right...

    He’s also known to sometimes wear an Apple Watch, so wrist glances
    aren’t exclusively to check the time .. could also be priority pushed alerts coming through, such as a surprise launch for thermonuclear war.

    ...and you get that you're now completely running from me asking for you
    to provide a quote about Afghanistan...

    ...right, Sunshine?

    Bingo.

    -hh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to -hh on Mon Sep 11 22:28:23 2023
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 4:56:44 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 12:55:02 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-10 20:50, Tommy wrote:


    Also, the senile pervert DID look at his watch up to THIRTEEN TIMES,
    as WITNESSED by family members AT the ceremony! https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-check-watch-13/

    'Videos and photographs show U.S. President Joe Biden checking his watch at least twice '

    So your own cite disagrees with you...
    Egads, this old trope again?
    ...and you DO get that a US president has a lot of stuff going on right...
    He’s also known to sometimes wear an Apple Watch, so wrist glances aren’t exclusively to check the time .. could also be priority pushed alerts
    coming through, such as a surprise launch for thermonuclear war.
    ...and you get that you're now completely running from me asking for you to provide a quote about Afghanistan...

    ...right, Sunshine?
    Bingo.

    -hh

    Do you take a shower after posting this BULLSHIT? If not, you SHOULD!!!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Sep 11 22:27:30 2023
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 9:55:02 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-10 20:50, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 7:33:19 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-06 20:17, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 12:55:33 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-22 11:23, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 7:44:02 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-21 19:08, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 3:05:04 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 14:41, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:39:41 AM UTC-7,
    Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 10:14, -hh wrote:
    The only quote of Biden is that he
    saw his son brought home in a
    flag-draped coffin.

    Are you claiming that that was a lie,
    Sunshine?

    Try again...

    ...or admit you're a loser?

    😄
    BTW, are you too stupid that you don't
    know where Beau Biden died, because
    Lyin' Biden is?
    Beau died at Walter Reed Army Hospital.
    But what does that have to do with him
    then receiving a military funeral? Be
    specific Tommy.

    Lyin' Biden falsely claimed he died in
    combat, just like the Gold Star family
    sons.
    Post the exact quote, Tommy, because there's
    a difference between "is" and "from".

    FYI, last I heard, the VA approval rates from
    burn pit related disability claims is running
    at something like ~80% of all submissions.

    -hh
    Here's an exact quote for you: FUCK OFF! You
    libtards are just COMPOUNDING the disrespect
    for these Gold Star families, and it is
    DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Translation: Tommy is mad because he once again
    got caught in a lie.
    That was my take!

    :-)

    LOL! You guys are the masters of LYING!! You have
    learned from the master, Lyin' Biden. What is
    pathetic is that is ALL you libtards have, LIES! You
    have NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS to point to, so you HAVE TO
    LIE!!!!
    And yet you have yet to quote any actual lie.

    Weird.

    Hey Fool, I DID - go read it. Bottom line: Gold Star
    Families said Lyin' Biden DISRESPECTED THEM! END OF
    STORY!!!!
    Nope.

    You have yet to quote anything you claim is an actual lie
    with regard to the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

    Bottom line: Gold Star Families said Lyin' Biden DISRESPECTED
    THEM! END OF STORY!!!!
    Bottom line:

    You claim that there have been lies...

    ...but you can't actually provide a quote...

    ...let alone a quote and a source.

    End of story.

    Lyin' Biden LIED about WHERE Beau died and that the Afghanistan
    withdrawal was a SUCCESS.
    Nope. He stated his belief that his son's cancer was a result of
    his service in Iraq.


    Why is it you insist that none of Trump's words can be taken
    literally, but insist that the words of anyone with whom you
    disagree should be?

    :-)

    And I'd like to see the quote about Afghanistan, please.

    Hey Fool, this is just ONE EXAMPLE of your MANY LIES!
    What lie am I supposed to have told, Sunshine?

    Also, the senile pervert DID look at his watch up to THIRTEEN TIMES,
    as WITNESSED by family members AT the ceremony! https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-check-watch-13/
    'Videos and photographs show U.S. President Joe Biden checking his watch
    at least twice '

    So your own cite disagrees with you...

    ...and you DO get that a US president has a lot of stuff going on right...

    ...and you get that you're now completely running from me asking for you
    to provide a quote about Afghanistan...

    ...right, Sunshine?

    Hey Fucker, "at least twice" DOES NOT MEAN ONLY TWICE! There are EYE WITNESSES there that observed Lyin' Biden checking his watch EVERY TIME a casket was brought out. You persisting on questioning this INDESPUTABLE FACT is, by itself, a LIE!

    Get this through your THICK SKULL: Lyin' Biden is a fucking JERK of the FIRST ORDER!! This is why his negatives are SO BAD!!!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Tommy on Tue Sep 12 01:36:31 2023
    On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 1:28:26 AM UTC-4, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 4:56:44 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 12:55:02 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-10 20:50, Tommy wrote:


    Also, the senile pervert DID look at his watch up to THIRTEEN TIMES, as WITNESSED by family members AT the ceremony! https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-check-watch-13/

    'Videos and photographs show U.S. President Joe Biden checking his watch at least twice '

    So your own cite disagrees with you...
    Egads, this old trope again?
    ...and you DO get that a US president has a lot of stuff going on right...

    He’s also known to sometimes wear an Apple Watch, so wrist glances aren’t exclusively to check the time .. could also be priority pushed alerts
    coming through, such as a surprise launch for thermonuclear war.


    Do you take a shower after posting this BULLSHIT? If not, you SHOULD!!!

    “ He’s the first sitting President to wear an Apple Watch, and it’s a sensible pick
    for someone who undoubtedly has a lot of calendar items to keep track of. The Apple Watch also has a fitness tracker, which is in line with the President’s
    enthusiasm for the Peloton.”

    < https://spy.com/articles/gear/style/joe-biden-watches-1202735622/>

    All you’re really admitting Tommy is that you never were important enough to your employer for them to pay up for you to carry a beeper or RIM Blackberry.

    Likewise, that you’ve not kept up with technology, for the Apple Watch is an evolutionary improvement of the digital appointment technology, as an alert
    on the wrist is less obtrusive than having to upholster a smartphone or it’s Palm PDA predecessor.

    -hh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Tue Sep 12 07:49:59 2023
    On 2023-09-11 22:27, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 9:55:02 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-10 20:50, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 7:33:19 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-06 20:17, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 12:55:33 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-22 11:23, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 7:44:02 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-21 19:08, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 3:05:04 PM UTC-7,
    Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 14:41, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:39:41 AM
    UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 10:14, -hh wrote:
    The only quote of Biden is that
    he saw his son brought home in a
    flag-draped coffin.

    Are you claiming that that was a
    lie, Sunshine?

    Try again...

    ...or admit you're a loser?

    😄
    BTW, are you too stupid that you
    don't know where Beau Biden died,
    because Lyin' Biden is?
    Beau died at Walter Reed Army
    Hospital. But what does that have to
    do with him then receiving a military
    funeral? Be specific Tommy.

    Lyin' Biden falsely claimed he died in
    combat, just like the Gold Star family
    sons.
    Post the exact quote, Tommy, because
    there's a difference between "is" and
    "from".

    FYI, last I heard, the VA approval rates
    from burn pit related disability claims
    is running at something like ~80% of all
    submissions.

    -hh
    Here's an exact quote for you: FUCK OFF!
    You libtards are just COMPOUNDING the
    disrespect for these Gold Star families,
    and it is
    DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Translation: Tommy is mad because he once
    again got caught in a lie.
    That was my take!

    :-)

    LOL! You guys are the masters of LYING!! You
    have learned from the master, Lyin' Biden. What
    is pathetic is that is ALL you libtards have,
    LIES! You have NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS to point to, so
    you HAVE TO LIE!!!!
    And yet you have yet to quote any actual lie.

    Weird.

    Hey Fool, I DID - go read it. Bottom line: Gold Star
    Families said Lyin' Biden DISRESPECTED THEM! END OF
    STORY!!!!
    Nope.

    You have yet to quote anything you claim is an actual
    lie with regard to the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

    Bottom line: Gold Star Families said Lyin' Biden
    DISRESPECTED THEM! END OF STORY!!!!
    Bottom line:

    You claim that there have been lies...

    ...but you can't actually provide a quote...

    ...let alone a quote and a source.

    End of story.

    Lyin' Biden LIED about WHERE Beau died and that the
    Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS.
    Nope. He stated his belief that his son's cancer was a result
    of his service in Iraq.


    Why is it you insist that none of Trump's words can be taken
    literally, but insist that the words of anyone with whom you
    disagree should be?

    :-)

    And I'd like to see the quote about Afghanistan, please.

    Hey Fool, this is just ONE EXAMPLE of your MANY LIES!
    What lie am I supposed to have told, Sunshine?

    Also, the senile pervert DID look at his watch up to THIRTEEN
    TIMES, as WITNESSED by family members AT the ceremony!
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-check-watch-13/
    'Videos and photographs show U.S. President Joe Biden checking his
    watch at least twice '

    So your own cite disagrees with you...

    ...and you DO get that a US president has a lot of stuff going on
    right...

    ...and you get that you're now completely running from me asking
    for you to provide a quote about Afghanistan...

    ...right, Sunshine?

    Hey Fucker, "at least twice" DOES NOT MEAN ONLY TWICE! There are EYE WITNESSES there that observed Lyin' Biden checking his watch EVERY
    TIME a casket was brought out. You persisting on questioning this INDESPUTABLE FACT is, by itself, a LIE!

    And yet you have provided no actual evidence of that.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Sep 12 20:57:58 2023
    On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 7:50:03 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-11 22:27, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 9:55:02 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-10 20:50, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 7:33:19 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-06 20:17, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 12:55:33 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-22 11:23, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 7:44:02 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-21 19:08, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 3:05:04 PM UTC-7,
    Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 14:41, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:39:41 AM
    UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 10:14, -hh wrote:
    The only quote of Biden is that
    he saw his son brought home in a
    flag-draped coffin.

    Are you claiming that that was a
    lie, Sunshine?

    Try again...

    ...or admit you're a loser?

    😄
    BTW, are you too stupid that you
    don't know where Beau Biden died,
    because Lyin' Biden is?
    Beau died at Walter Reed Army
    Hospital. But what does that have to
    do with him then receiving a military
    funeral? Be specific Tommy.

    Lyin' Biden falsely claimed he died in
    combat, just like the Gold Star family
    sons.
    Post the exact quote, Tommy, because
    there's a difference between "is" and
    "from".

    FYI, last I heard, the VA approval rates
    from burn pit related disability claims
    is running at something like ~80% of all
    submissions.

    -hh
    Here's an exact quote for you: FUCK OFF!
    You libtards are just COMPOUNDING the
    disrespect for these Gold Star families,
    and it is
    DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Translation: Tommy is mad because he once
    again got caught in a lie.
    That was my take!

    :-)

    LOL! You guys are the masters of LYING!! You
    have learned from the master, Lyin' Biden. What
    is pathetic is that is ALL you libtards have,
    LIES! You have NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS to point to, so
    you HAVE TO LIE!!!!
    And yet you have yet to quote any actual lie.

    Weird.

    Hey Fool, I DID - go read it. Bottom line: Gold Star
    Families said Lyin' Biden DISRESPECTED THEM! END OF
    STORY!!!!
    Nope.

    You have yet to quote anything you claim is an actual
    lie with regard to the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

    Bottom line: Gold Star Families said Lyin' Biden
    DISRESPECTED THEM! END OF STORY!!!!
    Bottom line:

    You claim that there have been lies...

    ...but you can't actually provide a quote...

    ...let alone a quote and a source.

    End of story.

    Lyin' Biden LIED about WHERE Beau died and that the
    Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS.
    Nope. He stated his belief that his son's cancer was a result
    of his service in Iraq.


    Why is it you insist that none of Trump's words can be taken
    literally, but insist that the words of anyone with whom you
    disagree should be?

    :-)

    And I'd like to see the quote about Afghanistan, please.

    Hey Fool, this is just ONE EXAMPLE of your MANY LIES!
    What lie am I supposed to have told, Sunshine?

    Also, the senile pervert DID look at his watch up to THIRTEEN
    TIMES, as WITNESSED by family members AT the ceremony!
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-check-watch-13/
    'Videos and photographs show U.S. President Joe Biden checking his
    watch at least twice '

    So your own cite disagrees with you...

    ...and you DO get that a US president has a lot of stuff going on
    right...

    ...and you get that you're now completely running from me asking
    for you to provide a quote about Afghanistan...

    ...right, Sunshine?

    Hey Fucker, "at least twice" DOES NOT MEAN ONLY TWICE! There are EYE WITNESSES there that observed Lyin' Biden checking his watch EVERY
    TIME a casket was brought out. You persisting on questioning this INDESPUTABLE FACT is, by itself, a LIE!
    And yet you have provided no actual evidence of that.

    Hey Fool, to most of us EYE WITNESS testimony IS EVIDENCE, but not to libtard fuckers such as yourself.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Tue Sep 12 21:17:04 2023
    On 2023-09-12 20:57, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 7:50:03 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-11 22:27, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 9:55:02 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-10 20:50, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 7:33:19 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-06 20:17, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 12:55:33 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-22 11:23, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 7:44:02 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-21 19:08, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 3:05:04 PM UTC-7,
    Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 14:41, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:39:41 AM
    UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 10:14, -hh wrote:
    The only quote of Biden is that
    he saw his son brought home in a
    flag-draped coffin.

    Are you claiming that that was a
    lie, Sunshine?

    Try again...

    ...or admit you're a loser?

    😄
    BTW, are you too stupid that you
    don't know where Beau Biden died,
    because Lyin' Biden is?
    Beau died at Walter Reed Army
    Hospital. But what does that have to
    do with him then receiving a military
    funeral? Be specific Tommy.

    Lyin' Biden falsely claimed he died in
    combat, just like the Gold Star family
    sons.
    Post the exact quote, Tommy, because
    there's a difference between "is" and
    "from".

    FYI, last I heard, the VA approval rates
    from burn pit related disability claims
    is running at something like ~80% of all
    submissions.

    -hh
    Here's an exact quote for you: FUCK OFF!
    You libtards are just COMPOUNDING the
    disrespect for these Gold Star families,
    and it is
    DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Translation: Tommy is mad because he once
    again got caught in a lie.
    That was my take!

    :-)

    LOL! You guys are the masters of LYING!! You
    have learned from the master, Lyin' Biden. What
    is pathetic is that is ALL you libtards have,
    LIES! You have NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS to point to, so
    you HAVE TO LIE!!!!
    And yet you have yet to quote any actual lie.

    Weird.

    Hey Fool, I DID - go read it. Bottom line: Gold Star
    Families said Lyin' Biden DISRESPECTED THEM! END OF
    STORY!!!!
    Nope.

    You have yet to quote anything you claim is an actual
    lie with regard to the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

    Bottom line: Gold Star Families said Lyin' Biden
    DISRESPECTED THEM! END OF STORY!!!!
    Bottom line:

    You claim that there have been lies...

    ...but you can't actually provide a quote...

    ...let alone a quote and a source.

    End of story.

    Lyin' Biden LIED about WHERE Beau died and that the
    Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS.
    Nope. He stated his belief that his son's cancer was a result
    of his service in Iraq.


    Why is it you insist that none of Trump's words can be taken
    literally, but insist that the words of anyone with whom you
    disagree should be?

    :-)

    And I'd like to see the quote about Afghanistan, please.

    Hey Fool, this is just ONE EXAMPLE of your MANY LIES!
    What lie am I supposed to have told, Sunshine?

    Also, the senile pervert DID look at his watch up to THIRTEEN
    TIMES, as WITNESSED by family members AT the ceremony!
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-check-watch-13/
    'Videos and photographs show U.S. President Joe Biden checking his
    watch at least twice '

    So your own cite disagrees with you...

    ...and you DO get that a US president has a lot of stuff going on
    right...

    ...and you get that you're now completely running from me asking
    for you to provide a quote about Afghanistan...

    ...right, Sunshine?

    Hey Fucker, "at least twice" DOES NOT MEAN ONLY TWICE! There are EYE
    WITNESSES there that observed Lyin' Biden checking his watch EVERY
    TIME a casket was brought out. You persisting on questioning this
    INDESPUTABLE FACT is, by itself, a LIE!
    And yet you have provided no actual evidence of that.

    Hey Fool, to most of us EYE WITNESS testimony IS EVIDENCE, but not to libtard fuckers such as yourself.

    You haven't presented any eye witness testimony, Sunshine.

    And you're still running from our Afghanistan claim.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Sep 12 21:22:53 2023
    On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 9:17:10 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-12 20:57, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 7:50:03 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-11 22:27, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 9:55:02 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-10 20:50, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 7:33:19 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>> On 2023-09-06 20:17, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 12:55:33 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-22 11:23, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 7:44:02 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-21 19:08, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 3:05:04 PM UTC-7,
    Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 14:41, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:39:41 AM
    UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 10:14, -hh wrote:
    The only quote of Biden is that
    he saw his son brought home in a
    flag-draped coffin.

    Are you claiming that that was a
    lie, Sunshine?

    Try again...

    ...or admit you're a loser?

    😄
    BTW, are you too stupid that you
    don't know where Beau Biden died,
    because Lyin' Biden is?
    Beau died at Walter Reed Army
    Hospital. But what does that have to
    do with him then receiving a military >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funeral? Be specific Tommy.

    Lyin' Biden falsely claimed he died in
    combat, just like the Gold Star family
    sons.
    Post the exact quote, Tommy, because
    there's a difference between "is" and
    "from".

    FYI, last I heard, the VA approval rates
    from burn pit related disability claims
    is running at something like ~80% of all
    submissions.

    -hh
    Here's an exact quote for you: FUCK OFF!
    You libtards are just COMPOUNDING the
    disrespect for these Gold Star families,
    and it is
    DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Translation: Tommy is mad because he once
    again got caught in a lie.
    That was my take!

    :-)

    LOL! You guys are the masters of LYING!! You
    have learned from the master, Lyin' Biden. What
    is pathetic is that is ALL you libtards have,
    LIES! You have NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS to point to, so >>>>>>>>>>>>> you HAVE TO LIE!!!!
    And yet you have yet to quote any actual lie.

    Weird.

    Hey Fool, I DID - go read it. Bottom line: Gold Star
    Families said Lyin' Biden DISRESPECTED THEM! END OF
    STORY!!!!
    Nope.

    You have yet to quote anything you claim is an actual
    lie with regard to the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

    Bottom line: Gold Star Families said Lyin' Biden
    DISRESPECTED THEM! END OF STORY!!!!
    Bottom line:

    You claim that there have been lies...

    ...but you can't actually provide a quote...

    ...let alone a quote and a source.

    End of story.

    Lyin' Biden LIED about WHERE Beau died and that the
    Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS.
    Nope. He stated his belief that his son's cancer was a result
    of his service in Iraq.


    Why is it you insist that none of Trump's words can be taken
    literally, but insist that the words of anyone with whom you
    disagree should be?

    :-)

    And I'd like to see the quote about Afghanistan, please.

    Hey Fool, this is just ONE EXAMPLE of your MANY LIES!
    What lie am I supposed to have told, Sunshine?

    Also, the senile pervert DID look at his watch up to THIRTEEN
    TIMES, as WITNESSED by family members AT the ceremony!
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-check-watch-13/
    'Videos and photographs show U.S. President Joe Biden checking his
    watch at least twice '

    So your own cite disagrees with you...

    ...and you DO get that a US president has a lot of stuff going on
    right...

    ...and you get that you're now completely running from me asking
    for you to provide a quote about Afghanistan...

    ...right, Sunshine?

    Hey Fucker, "at least twice" DOES NOT MEAN ONLY TWICE! There are EYE
    WITNESSES there that observed Lyin' Biden checking his watch EVERY
    TIME a casket was brought out. You persisting on questioning this
    INDESPUTABLE FACT is, by itself, a LIE!
    And yet you have provided no actual evidence of that.

    Hey Fool, to most of us EYE WITNESS testimony IS EVIDENCE, but not to libtard fuckers such as yourself.
    You haven't presented any eye witness testimony, Sunshine.

    And you're still running from our Afghanistan claim.

    Two family members were on Hannity, Fool - and the transcript is in the Snopes article.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Tue Sep 12 21:25:34 2023
    On 2023-09-12 21:22, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 9:17:10 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-12 20:57, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 7:50:03 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-11 22:27, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 9:55:02 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-10 20:50, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 7:33:19 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2023-09-06 20:17, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 12:55:33 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-22 11:23, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 7:44:02 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-21 19:08, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 3:05:04 PM UTC-7,
    Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 14:41, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:39:41 AM
    UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 10:14, -hh wrote:
    The only quote of Biden is that
    he saw his son brought home in a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flag-draped coffin.

    Are you claiming that that was a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lie, Sunshine?

    Try again...

    ...or admit you're a loser?

    😄
    BTW, are you too stupid that you
    don't know where Beau Biden died,
    because Lyin' Biden is?
    Beau died at Walter Reed Army
    Hospital. But what does that have to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do with him then receiving a military >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funeral? Be specific Tommy.

    Lyin' Biden falsely claimed he died in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> combat, just like the Gold Star family >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sons.
    Post the exact quote, Tommy, because
    there's a difference between "is" and
    "from".

    FYI, last I heard, the VA approval rates >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from burn pit related disability claims
    is running at something like ~80% of all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> submissions.

    -hh
    Here's an exact quote for you: FUCK OFF!
    You libtards are just COMPOUNDING the
    disrespect for these Gold Star families,
    and it is
    DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Translation: Tommy is mad because he once
    again got caught in a lie.
    That was my take!

    :-)

    LOL! You guys are the masters of LYING!! You
    have learned from the master, Lyin' Biden. What
    is pathetic is that is ALL you libtards have,
    LIES! You have NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS to point to, so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you HAVE TO LIE!!!!
    And yet you have yet to quote any actual lie.

    Weird.

    Hey Fool, I DID - go read it. Bottom line: Gold Star >>>>>>>>>>>>> Families said Lyin' Biden DISRESPECTED THEM! END OF
    STORY!!!!
    Nope.

    You have yet to quote anything you claim is an actual
    lie with regard to the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

    Bottom line: Gold Star Families said Lyin' Biden
    DISRESPECTED THEM! END OF STORY!!!!
    Bottom line:

    You claim that there have been lies...

    ...but you can't actually provide a quote...

    ...let alone a quote and a source.

    End of story.

    Lyin' Biden LIED about WHERE Beau died and that the
    Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS.
    Nope. He stated his belief that his son's cancer was a result
    of his service in Iraq.


    Why is it you insist that none of Trump's words can be taken
    literally, but insist that the words of anyone with whom you
    disagree should be?

    :-)

    And I'd like to see the quote about Afghanistan, please.

    Hey Fool, this is just ONE EXAMPLE of your MANY LIES!
    What lie am I supposed to have told, Sunshine?

    Also, the senile pervert DID look at his watch up to THIRTEEN
    TIMES, as WITNESSED by family members AT the ceremony!
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-check-watch-13/
    'Videos and photographs show U.S. President Joe Biden checking his >>>>>> watch at least twice '

    So your own cite disagrees with you...

    ...and you DO get that a US president has a lot of stuff going on
    right...

    ...and you get that you're now completely running from me asking
    for you to provide a quote about Afghanistan...

    ...right, Sunshine?

    Hey Fucker, "at least twice" DOES NOT MEAN ONLY TWICE! There are EYE >>>>> WITNESSES there that observed Lyin' Biden checking his watch EVERY
    TIME a casket was brought out. You persisting on questioning this
    INDESPUTABLE FACT is, by itself, a LIE!
    And yet you have provided no actual evidence of that.

    Hey Fool, to most of us EYE WITNESS testimony IS EVIDENCE, but not to libtard fuckers such as yourself.
    You haven't presented any eye witness testimony, Sunshine.

    And you're still running from our Afghanistan claim.

    Two family members were on Hannity, Fool - and the transcript is in the Snopes article.

    Stop running from this:

    "Biden LIED that the Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS."

    Let's see the quote.

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Sep 13 17:23:04 2023
    On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 9:25:39 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-12 21:22, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 9:17:10 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-12 20:57, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 7:50:03 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-11 22:27, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 9:55:02 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>> On 2023-09-10 20:50, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 7:33:19 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2023-09-06 20:17, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 12:55:33 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-08-22 11:23, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 7:44:02 PM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-08-21 19:08, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 3:05:04 PM UTC-7, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 14:41, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:39:41 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 10:14, -hh wrote:
    The only quote of Biden is that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he saw his son brought home in a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flag-draped coffin.

    Are you claiming that that was a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lie, Sunshine?

    Try again...

    ...or admit you're a loser?

    😄
    BTW, are you too stupid that you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't know where Beau Biden died, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because Lyin' Biden is?
    Beau died at Walter Reed Army
    Hospital. But what does that have to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do with him then receiving a military >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funeral? Be specific Tommy.

    Lyin' Biden falsely claimed he died in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> combat, just like the Gold Star family >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sons.
    Post the exact quote, Tommy, because
    there's a difference between "is" and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "from".

    FYI, last I heard, the VA approval rates >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from burn pit related disability claims >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is running at something like ~80% of all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> submissions.

    -hh
    Here's an exact quote for you: FUCK OFF! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You libtards are just COMPOUNDING the
    disrespect for these Gold Star families, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it is
    DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Translation: Tommy is mad because he once >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again got caught in a lie.
    That was my take!

    :-)

    LOL! You guys are the masters of LYING!! You
    have learned from the master, Lyin' Biden. What >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is pathetic is that is ALL you libtards have, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LIES! You have NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS to point to, so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you HAVE TO LIE!!!!
    And yet you have yet to quote any actual lie.

    Weird.

    Hey Fool, I DID - go read it. Bottom line: Gold Star >>>>>>>>>>>>> Families said Lyin' Biden DISRESPECTED THEM! END OF >>>>>>>>>>>>> STORY!!!!
    Nope.

    You have yet to quote anything you claim is an actual >>>>>>>>>>>> lie with regard to the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

    Bottom line: Gold Star Families said Lyin' Biden
    DISRESPECTED THEM! END OF STORY!!!!
    Bottom line:

    You claim that there have been lies...

    ...but you can't actually provide a quote...

    ...let alone a quote and a source.

    End of story.

    Lyin' Biden LIED about WHERE Beau died and that the
    Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS.
    Nope. He stated his belief that his son's cancer was a result >>>>>>>> of his service in Iraq.


    Why is it you insist that none of Trump's words can be taken >>>>>>>> literally, but insist that the words of anyone with whom you >>>>>>>> disagree should be?

    :-)

    And I'd like to see the quote about Afghanistan, please.

    Hey Fool, this is just ONE EXAMPLE of your MANY LIES!
    What lie am I supposed to have told, Sunshine?

    Also, the senile pervert DID look at his watch up to THIRTEEN >>>>>>> TIMES, as WITNESSED by family members AT the ceremony!
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-check-watch-13/
    'Videos and photographs show U.S. President Joe Biden checking his >>>>>> watch at least twice '

    So your own cite disagrees with you...

    ...and you DO get that a US president has a lot of stuff going on >>>>>> right...

    ...and you get that you're now completely running from me asking >>>>>> for you to provide a quote about Afghanistan...

    ...right, Sunshine?

    Hey Fucker, "at least twice" DOES NOT MEAN ONLY TWICE! There are EYE >>>>> WITNESSES there that observed Lyin' Biden checking his watch EVERY >>>>> TIME a casket was brought out. You persisting on questioning this >>>>> INDESPUTABLE FACT is, by itself, a LIE!
    And yet you have provided no actual evidence of that.

    Hey Fool, to most of us EYE WITNESS testimony IS EVIDENCE, but not to libtard fuckers such as yourself.
    You haven't presented any eye witness testimony, Sunshine.

    And you're still running from our Afghanistan claim.

    Two family members were on Hannity, Fool - and the transcript is in the Snopes article.
    Stop running from this:

    "Biden LIED that the Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS."

    Let's see the quote.

    Hey Fool, he did - prove me wrong.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Wed Sep 13 18:53:10 2023
    On 2023-09-13 17:23, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 9:25:39 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-12 21:22, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 9:17:10 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-12 20:57, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 7:50:03 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-11 22:27, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 9:55:02 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2023-09-10 20:50, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 7:33:19 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 2023-09-06 20:17, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 12:55:33 PM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-08-22 11:23, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 7:44:02 PM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-08-21 19:08, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 3:05:04 PM UTC-7, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 14:41, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:39:41 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 10:14, -hh wrote:
    The only quote of Biden is that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he saw his son brought home in a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flag-draped coffin.

    Are you claiming that that was a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lie, Sunshine?

    Try again...

    ...or admit you're a loser?

    😄
    BTW, are you too stupid that you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't know where Beau Biden died, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because Lyin' Biden is?
    Beau died at Walter Reed Army
    Hospital. But what does that have to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do with him then receiving a military >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funeral? Be specific Tommy.

    Lyin' Biden falsely claimed he died in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> combat, just like the Gold Star family >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sons.
    Post the exact quote, Tommy, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's a difference between "is" and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "from".

    FYI, last I heard, the VA approval rates >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from burn pit related disability claims >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is running at something like ~80% of all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> submissions.

    -hh
    Here's an exact quote for you: FUCK OFF! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You libtards are just COMPOUNDING the
    disrespect for these Gold Star families, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it is
    DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Translation: Tommy is mad because he once >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again got caught in a lie.
    That was my take!

    :-)

    LOL! You guys are the masters of LYING!! You >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have learned from the master, Lyin' Biden. What >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is pathetic is that is ALL you libtards have, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LIES! You have NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS to point to, so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you HAVE TO LIE!!!!
    And yet you have yet to quote any actual lie.

    Weird.

    Hey Fool, I DID - go read it. Bottom line: Gold Star >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Families said Lyin' Biden DISRESPECTED THEM! END OF >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> STORY!!!!
    Nope.

    You have yet to quote anything you claim is an actual >>>>>>>>>>>>>> lie with regard to the withdrawal from Afghanistan. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Bottom line: Gold Star Families said Lyin' Biden
    DISRESPECTED THEM! END OF STORY!!!!
    Bottom line:

    You claim that there have been lies...

    ...but you can't actually provide a quote...

    ...let alone a quote and a source.

    End of story.

    Lyin' Biden LIED about WHERE Beau died and that the
    Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS.
    Nope. He stated his belief that his son's cancer was a result >>>>>>>>>> of his service in Iraq.


    Why is it you insist that none of Trump's words can be taken >>>>>>>>>> literally, but insist that the words of anyone with whom you >>>>>>>>>> disagree should be?

    :-)

    And I'd like to see the quote about Afghanistan, please.

    Hey Fool, this is just ONE EXAMPLE of your MANY LIES!
    What lie am I supposed to have told, Sunshine?

    Also, the senile pervert DID look at his watch up to THIRTEEN >>>>>>>>> TIMES, as WITNESSED by family members AT the ceremony!
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-check-watch-13/
    'Videos and photographs show U.S. President Joe Biden checking his >>>>>>>> watch at least twice '

    So your own cite disagrees with you...

    ...and you DO get that a US president has a lot of stuff going on >>>>>>>> right...

    ...and you get that you're now completely running from me asking >>>>>>>> for you to provide a quote about Afghanistan...

    ...right, Sunshine?

    Hey Fucker, "at least twice" DOES NOT MEAN ONLY TWICE! There are EYE >>>>>>> WITNESSES there that observed Lyin' Biden checking his watch EVERY >>>>>>> TIME a casket was brought out. You persisting on questioning this >>>>>>> INDESPUTABLE FACT is, by itself, a LIE!
    And yet you have provided no actual evidence of that.

    Hey Fool, to most of us EYE WITNESS testimony IS EVIDENCE, but not to libtard fuckers such as yourself.
    You haven't presented any eye witness testimony, Sunshine.

    And you're still running from our Afghanistan claim.

    Two family members were on Hannity, Fool - and the transcript is in the Snopes article.
    Stop running from this:

    "Biden LIED that the Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS."

    Let's see the quote.

    Hey Fool, he did - prove me wrong.

    It's not my job to prove you wrong.

    Since you can't prove you're right, we'll just ignore what you're saying
    as bullshit.

    :-)

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Sep 15 22:16:53 2023
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 6:53:14 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-13 17:23, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 9:25:39 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-12 21:22, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 9:17:10 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-12 20:57, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 7:50:03 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>> On 2023-09-11 22:27, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 9:55:02 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2023-09-10 20:50, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 7:33:19 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 2023-09-06 20:17, Tommy wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 12:55:33 PM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-08-22 11:23, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 7:44:02 PM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-08-21 19:08, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 3:05:04 PM UTC-7, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 14:41, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:39:41 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 10:14, -hh wrote:
    The only quote of Biden is that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he saw his son brought home in a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flag-draped coffin.

    Are you claiming that that was a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lie, Sunshine?

    Try again...

    ...or admit you're a loser? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    😄
    BTW, are you too stupid that you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't know where Beau Biden died, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because Lyin' Biden is?
    Beau died at Walter Reed Army >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hospital. But what does that have to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do with him then receiving a military >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funeral? Be specific Tommy.

    Lyin' Biden falsely claimed he died in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> combat, just like the Gold Star family >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sons.
    Post the exact quote, Tommy, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's a difference between "is" and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "from".

    FYI, last I heard, the VA approval rates >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from burn pit related disability claims >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is running at something like ~80% of all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> submissions.

    -hh
    Here's an exact quote for you: FUCK OFF! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You libtards are just COMPOUNDING the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disrespect for these Gold Star families, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it is
    DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Translation: Tommy is mad because he once >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again got caught in a lie.
    That was my take!

    :-)

    LOL! You guys are the masters of LYING!! You >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have learned from the master, Lyin' Biden. What >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is pathetic is that is ALL you libtards have, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LIES! You have NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS to point to, so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you HAVE TO LIE!!!!
    And yet you have yet to quote any actual lie. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Weird.

    Hey Fool, I DID - go read it. Bottom line: Gold Star >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Families said Lyin' Biden DISRESPECTED THEM! END OF >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> STORY!!!!
    Nope.

    You have yet to quote anything you claim is an actual >>>>>>>>>>>>>> lie with regard to the withdrawal from Afghanistan. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Bottom line: Gold Star Families said Lyin' Biden
    DISRESPECTED THEM! END OF STORY!!!!
    Bottom line:

    You claim that there have been lies...

    ...but you can't actually provide a quote...

    ...let alone a quote and a source.

    End of story.

    Lyin' Biden LIED about WHERE Beau died and that the
    Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS.
    Nope. He stated his belief that his son's cancer was a result >>>>>>>>>> of his service in Iraq.


    Why is it you insist that none of Trump's words can be taken >>>>>>>>>> literally, but insist that the words of anyone with whom you >>>>>>>>>> disagree should be?

    :-)

    And I'd like to see the quote about Afghanistan, please. >>>>>>>>>
    Hey Fool, this is just ONE EXAMPLE of your MANY LIES!
    What lie am I supposed to have told, Sunshine?

    Also, the senile pervert DID look at his watch up to THIRTEEN >>>>>>>>> TIMES, as WITNESSED by family members AT the ceremony!
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-check-watch-13/
    'Videos and photographs show U.S. President Joe Biden checking his >>>>>>>> watch at least twice '

    So your own cite disagrees with you...

    ...and you DO get that a US president has a lot of stuff going on >>>>>>>> right...

    ...and you get that you're now completely running from me asking >>>>>>>> for you to provide a quote about Afghanistan...

    ...right, Sunshine?

    Hey Fucker, "at least twice" DOES NOT MEAN ONLY TWICE! There are EYE >>>>>>> WITNESSES there that observed Lyin' Biden checking his watch EVERY >>>>>>> TIME a casket was brought out. You persisting on questioning this >>>>>>> INDESPUTABLE FACT is, by itself, a LIE!
    And yet you have provided no actual evidence of that.

    Hey Fool, to most of us EYE WITNESS testimony IS EVIDENCE, but not to libtard fuckers such as yourself.
    You haven't presented any eye witness testimony, Sunshine.

    And you're still running from our Afghanistan claim.

    Two family members were on Hannity, Fool - and the transcript is in the Snopes article.
    Stop running from this:

    "Biden LIED that the Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS."

    Let's see the quote.

    Hey Fool, he did - prove me wrong.
    It's not my job to prove you wrong.

    Since you can't prove you're right, we'll just ignore what you're saying
    as bullshit.

    :-)

    You are just a LYING LIBTARD, Fool. The PROOF that Lyin' Biden disrespected the Gold Star Families comes from the Gold Star Families THEMSELVES! CASE CLOSED!!!!!

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Sun Sep 17 09:55:04 2023
    On 2023-09-15 22:16, Tommy wrote:

    Hey Fool, to most of us EYE WITNESS testimony IS
    EVIDENCE, but not to libtard fuckers such as yourself.
    You haven't presented any eye witness testimony, Sunshine.

    And you're still running from our Afghanistan claim.

    Two family members were on Hannity, Fool - and the transcript
    is in the Snopes article.
    Stop running from this:

    "Biden LIED that the Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS."

    Let's see the quote.

    Hey Fool, he did - prove me wrong.
    It's not my job to prove you wrong.

    Since you can't prove you're right, we'll just ignore what you're
    saying as bullshit.

    :-)

    You are just a LYING LIBTARD, Fool. The PROOF that Lyin' Biden
    disrespected the Gold Star Families comes from the Gold Star Families THEMSELVES! CASE CLOSED!!!!!

    Still waiting for you to make good on providing a quote of:

    "Biden LIED that the Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS."

    BTW, how many times did Trump even attend the return of fallen troops, Sunshine?


    :-)

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun Sep 17 18:56:55 2023
    On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 9:55:08 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-15 22:16, Tommy wrote:

    Hey Fool, to most of us EYE WITNESS testimony IS
    EVIDENCE, but not to libtard fuckers such as yourself.
    You haven't presented any eye witness testimony, Sunshine.

    And you're still running from our Afghanistan claim.

    Two family members were on Hannity, Fool - and the transcript
    is in the Snopes article.
    Stop running from this:

    "Biden LIED that the Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS."

    Let's see the quote.

    Hey Fool, he did - prove me wrong.
    It's not my job to prove you wrong.

    Since you can't prove you're right, we'll just ignore what you're
    saying as bullshit.

    :-)

    You are just a LYING LIBTARD, Fool. The PROOF that Lyin' Biden disrespected the Gold Star Families comes from the Gold Star Families THEMSELVES! CASE CLOSED!!!!!
    Still waiting for you to make good on providing a quote of:
    "Biden LIED that the Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS."
    BTW, how many times did Trump even attend the return of fallen troops, Sunshine?


    :-)

    I don't have to - the issue is answered by the FAMILIES THEMSELVES! If you doubt them then YOU are also disrespecting them.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Mon Sep 18 00:27:17 2023
    On 2023-09-17 18:56, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 9:55:08 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-15 22:16, Tommy wrote:

    Hey Fool, to most of us EYE WITNESS testimony IS
    EVIDENCE, but not to libtard fuckers such as yourself.
    You haven't presented any eye witness testimony, Sunshine.

    And you're still running from our Afghanistan claim.

    Two family members were on Hannity, Fool - and the transcript
    is in the Snopes article.
    Stop running from this:

    "Biden LIED that the Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS."

    Let's see the quote.

    Hey Fool, he did - prove me wrong.
    It's not my job to prove you wrong.

    Since you can't prove you're right, we'll just ignore what you're
    saying as bullshit.

    :-)

    You are just a LYING LIBTARD, Fool. The PROOF that Lyin' Biden
    disrespected the Gold Star Families comes from the Gold Star Families
    THEMSELVES! CASE CLOSED!!!!!
    Still waiting for you to make good on providing a quote of:
    "Biden LIED that the Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS."
    BTW, how many times did Trump even attend the return of fallen troops,
    Sunshine?


    :-)

    I don't have to - the issue is answered by the FAMILIES THEMSELVES! If you doubt them then YOU are also disrespecting them.

    I don't doubt them... ...I doubt what you CLAIM of them.

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Sep 18 08:30:52 2023
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 12:27:23 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-17 18:56, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 9:55:08 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-15 22:16, Tommy wrote:

    Hey Fool, to most of us EYE WITNESS testimony IS
    EVIDENCE, but not to libtard fuckers such as yourself.
    You haven't presented any eye witness testimony, Sunshine.

    And you're still running from our Afghanistan claim.

    Two family members were on Hannity, Fool - and the transcript >>>>>>> is in the Snopes article.
    Stop running from this:

    "Biden LIED that the Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS."

    Let's see the quote.

    Hey Fool, he did - prove me wrong.
    It's not my job to prove you wrong.

    Since you can't prove you're right, we'll just ignore what you're
    saying as bullshit.

    :-)

    You are just a LYING LIBTARD, Fool. The PROOF that Lyin' Biden
    disrespected the Gold Star Families comes from the Gold Star Families >>> THEMSELVES! CASE CLOSED!!!!!
    Still waiting for you to make good on providing a quote of:
    "Biden LIED that the Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS."
    BTW, how many times did Trump even attend the return of fallen troops,
    Sunshine?


    :-)

    I don't have to - the issue is answered by the FAMILIES THEMSELVES! If you doubt them then YOU are also disrespecting them.
    I don't doubt them... ...I doubt what you CLAIM of them.

    Hey Fool, you have faux doubt for ANYTHING negative about the senile pervert.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Mon Sep 18 10:22:40 2023
    On 2023-09-18 08:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 12:27:23 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-17 18:56, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 9:55:08 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-15 22:16, Tommy wrote:

    Hey Fool, to most of us EYE WITNESS testimony IS
    EVIDENCE, but not to libtard fuckers such as yourself.
    You haven't presented any eye witness testimony, Sunshine. >>>>>>>>>>
    And you're still running from our Afghanistan claim.

    Two family members were on Hannity, Fool - and the transcript >>>>>>>>> is in the Snopes article.
    Stop running from this:

    "Biden LIED that the Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS."

    Let's see the quote.

    Hey Fool, he did - prove me wrong.
    It's not my job to prove you wrong.

    Since you can't prove you're right, we'll just ignore what you're
    saying as bullshit.

    :-)

    You are just a LYING LIBTARD, Fool. The PROOF that Lyin' Biden
    disrespected the Gold Star Families comes from the Gold Star Families >>>>> THEMSELVES! CASE CLOSED!!!!!
    Still waiting for you to make good on providing a quote of:
    "Biden LIED that the Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS."
    BTW, how many times did Trump even attend the return of fallen troops, >>>> Sunshine?


    :-)

    I don't have to - the issue is answered by the FAMILIES THEMSELVES! If you doubt them then YOU are also disrespecting them.
    I don't doubt them... ...I doubt what you CLAIM of them.

    Hey Fool, you have faux doubt for ANYTHING negative about the senile pervert.

    Hey, Sunshine, could that be because you never post proof of anything?

    :-)

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Sep 18 15:47:53 2023
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 10:22:45 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-18 08:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 12:27:23 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-17 18:56, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 9:55:08 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-15 22:16, Tommy wrote:

    Hey Fool, to most of us EYE WITNESS testimony IS
    EVIDENCE, but not to libtard fuckers such as yourself. >>>>>>>>>> You haven't presented any eye witness testimony, Sunshine. >>>>>>>>>>
    And you're still running from our Afghanistan claim.

    Two family members were on Hannity, Fool - and the transcript >>>>>>>>> is in the Snopes article.
    Stop running from this:

    "Biden LIED that the Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS." >>>>>>>>
    Let's see the quote.

    Hey Fool, he did - prove me wrong.
    It's not my job to prove you wrong.

    Since you can't prove you're right, we'll just ignore what you're >>>>>> saying as bullshit.

    :-)

    You are just a LYING LIBTARD, Fool. The PROOF that Lyin' Biden
    disrespected the Gold Star Families comes from the Gold Star Families >>>>> THEMSELVES! CASE CLOSED!!!!!
    Still waiting for you to make good on providing a quote of:
    "Biden LIED that the Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS."
    BTW, how many times did Trump even attend the return of fallen troops, >>>> Sunshine?


    :-)

    I don't have to - the issue is answered by the FAMILIES THEMSELVES! If you doubt them then YOU are also disrespecting them.
    I don't doubt them... ...I doubt what you CLAIM of them.

    Hey Fool, you have faux doubt for ANYTHING negative about the senile pervert.
    Hey, Sunshine, could that be because you never post proof of anything?

    :-)

    I HAVE, Fool! Lyin' Biden OUTRIGHT LIED about Beau dying in Iraq: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/beau-biden-die-in-iraq/
    YOU are LYING when you state that I never post proof of anything.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Mon Sep 18 17:14:07 2023
    On 2023-09-18 15:47, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 10:22:45 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-18 08:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 12:27:23 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-17 18:56, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 9:55:08 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-15 22:16, Tommy wrote:

    Hey Fool, to most of us EYE WITNESS testimony IS
    EVIDENCE, but not to libtard fuckers such as yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>> You haven't presented any eye witness testimony, Sunshine. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    And you're still running from our Afghanistan claim.

    Two family members were on Hannity, Fool - and the transcript >>>>>>>>>>> is in the Snopes article.
    Stop running from this:

    "Biden LIED that the Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS." >>>>>>>>>>
    Let's see the quote.

    Hey Fool, he did - prove me wrong.
    It's not my job to prove you wrong.

    Since you can't prove you're right, we'll just ignore what you're >>>>>>>> saying as bullshit.

    :-)

    You are just a LYING LIBTARD, Fool. The PROOF that Lyin' Biden
    disrespected the Gold Star Families comes from the Gold Star Families >>>>>>> THEMSELVES! CASE CLOSED!!!!!
    Still waiting for you to make good on providing a quote of:
    "Biden LIED that the Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS."
    BTW, how many times did Trump even attend the return of fallen troops, >>>>>> Sunshine?


    :-)

    I don't have to - the issue is answered by the FAMILIES THEMSELVES! If you doubt them then YOU are also disrespecting them.
    I don't doubt them... ...I doubt what you CLAIM of them.

    Hey Fool, you have faux doubt for ANYTHING negative about the senile pervert.
    Hey, Sunshine, could that be because you never post proof of anything?

    :-)

    I HAVE, Fool! Lyin' Biden OUTRIGHT LIED about Beau dying in Iraq: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/beau-biden-die-in-iraq/
    YOU are LYING when you state that I never post proof of anything.

    Nope.

    He spoke figuratively, Sunshine.

    Even Snopes quotes him as saying:

    "My son was a major in the U.S. army. We lost him in Iraq."

    "We lost him" is figurative language.

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Sep 18 21:33:03 2023
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 5:14:12 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-18 15:47, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 10:22:45 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-18 08:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 12:27:23 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-17 18:56, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 9:55:08 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>> On 2023-09-15 22:16, Tommy wrote:

    Hey Fool, to most of us EYE WITNESS testimony IS
    EVIDENCE, but not to libtard fuckers such as yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>> You haven't presented any eye witness testimony, Sunshine. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    And you're still running from our Afghanistan claim. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Two family members were on Hannity, Fool - and the transcript >>>>>>>>>>> is in the Snopes article.
    Stop running from this:

    "Biden LIED that the Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS." >>>>>>>>>>
    Let's see the quote.

    Hey Fool, he did - prove me wrong.
    It's not my job to prove you wrong.

    Since you can't prove you're right, we'll just ignore what you're >>>>>>>> saying as bullshit.

    :-)

    You are just a LYING LIBTARD, Fool. The PROOF that Lyin' Biden >>>>>>> disrespected the Gold Star Families comes from the Gold Star Families
    THEMSELVES! CASE CLOSED!!!!!
    Still waiting for you to make good on providing a quote of:
    "Biden LIED that the Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS."
    BTW, how many times did Trump even attend the return of fallen troops,
    Sunshine?


    :-)

    I don't have to - the issue is answered by the FAMILIES THEMSELVES! If you doubt them then YOU are also disrespecting them.
    I don't doubt them... ...I doubt what you CLAIM of them.

    Hey Fool, you have faux doubt for ANYTHING negative about the senile pervert.
    Hey, Sunshine, could that be because you never post proof of anything?

    :-)

    I HAVE, Fool! Lyin' Biden OUTRIGHT LIED about Beau dying in Iraq: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/beau-biden-die-in-iraq/
    YOU are LYING when you state that I never post proof of anything.
    Nope.

    He spoke figuratively, Sunshine.

    Even Snopes quotes him as saying:

    "My son was a major in the U.S. army. We lost him in Iraq."

    "We lost him" is figurative language.

    That's a LIE, Fool - he died in the US.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Mon Sep 18 21:45:30 2023
    On 2023-09-18 21:33, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 5:14:12 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-18 15:47, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 10:22:45 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-18 08:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 12:27:23 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-17 18:56, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 9:55:08 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2023-09-15 22:16, Tommy wrote:

    Hey Fool, to most of us EYE WITNESS testimony IS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EVIDENCE, but not to libtard fuckers such as yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You haven't presented any eye witness testimony, Sunshine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And you're still running from our Afghanistan claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Two family members were on Hannity, Fool - and the transcript >>>>>>>>>>>>> is in the Snopes article.
    Stop running from this:

    "Biden LIED that the Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS." >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let's see the quote.

    Hey Fool, he did - prove me wrong.
    It's not my job to prove you wrong.

    Since you can't prove you're right, we'll just ignore what you're >>>>>>>>>> saying as bullshit.

    :-)

    You are just a LYING LIBTARD, Fool. The PROOF that Lyin' Biden >>>>>>>>> disrespected the Gold Star Families comes from the Gold Star Families >>>>>>>>> THEMSELVES! CASE CLOSED!!!!!
    Still waiting for you to make good on providing a quote of:
    "Biden LIED that the Afghanistan withdrawal was a SUCCESS."
    BTW, how many times did Trump even attend the return of fallen troops, >>>>>>>> Sunshine?


    :-)

    I don't have to - the issue is answered by the FAMILIES THEMSELVES! If you doubt them then YOU are also disrespecting them.
    I don't doubt them... ...I doubt what you CLAIM of them.

    Hey Fool, you have faux doubt for ANYTHING negative about the senile pervert.
    Hey, Sunshine, could that be because you never post proof of anything? >>>>
    :-)

    I HAVE, Fool! Lyin' Biden OUTRIGHT LIED about Beau dying in Iraq:
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/beau-biden-die-in-iraq/
    YOU are LYING when you state that I never post proof of anything.
    Nope.

    He spoke figuratively, Sunshine.

    Even Snopes quotes him as saying:

    "My son was a major in the U.S. army. We lost him in Iraq."

    "We lost him" is figurative language.

    That's a LIE, Fool - he died in the US.

    Again, I ask why you don't apply the same standard to Trump's many
    statements that weren't literally true?

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