• A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum Today

    From Tommy@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 26 17:34:15 2023
    The Hunter BooBoo crowd thought they had an agreement with the DOJ prosecutors: a slap on the wrist for actual felony offenses and future immunity from other actual felony offenses like the Foreign Agents Registration Act. BooBoo was really agitated,
    pacing around the courtroom like a caged animal.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rip-it-up-inside-the-dramatic-unraveling-of-hunter-biden-s-plea-deal/ar-AA1eoKD3?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=e528bc1c6b574390840cc9799989460e&ei=15

    But the most bizarre aspect of the proceedings was when it was revealed that a defense lawyer IMPERSONATED a member of the Republican representative Jason Smith's (Mo.) staff, who chairs the House Ways and Means Committee, in order to get a piece of
    evidence REMOVED! This is a CRIME against the court and shows the extent to which these turds will VIOLATE THE LAW! Biden's team said the issue "appears to stem from an unfortunate and unintentional miscommunication between a staff member at our firm and
    employees of the Court." Tell me, PLEASE, how is it "unintentional" that you identify yourself as someone who you AREN'T???

    https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/judge-says-hunter-biden-legal-team-misrepresented-identity-to-hide-evidence-threatens-sanction/

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Wed Jul 26 17:40:14 2023
    On 2023-07-26 17:34, Tommy wrote:
    The Hunter BooBoo crowd thought they had an agreement with the DOJ prosecutors: a slap on the wrist for actual felony offenses and
    future immunity from other actual felony offenses like the Foreign
    Agents Registration Act. BooBoo was really agitated, pacing around
    the courtroom like a caged animal.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rip-it-up-inside-the-dramatic-unraveling-of-hunter-biden-s-plea-deal/ar-AA1eoKD3?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=e528bc1c6b574390840cc9799989460e&ei=15

    Doesn't exactly track with your claims that the DoJ is all in for Biden,
    now does it?


    But the most bizarre aspect of the proceedings was when it was
    revealed that a defense lawyer IMPERSONATED a member of the
    Republican representative Jason Smith's (Mo.) staff, who chairs the
    House Ways and Means Committee, in order to get a piece of evidence
    REMOVED! This is a CRIME against the court and shows the extent to
    which these turds will VIOLATE THE LAW! Biden's team said the issue
    "appears to stem from an unfortunate and unintentional
    miscommunication between a staff member at our firm and employees of
    the Court." Tell me, PLEASE, how is it "unintentional" that you
    identify yourself as someone who you AREN'T???

    https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/judge-says-hunter-biden-legal-team-misrepresented-identity-to-hide-evidence-threatens-sanction/
    And the actual evidence that this took place is... ...what?

    And it wasn't a defense lawyer, BTW.

    Can't you read your own sources

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Jul 26 17:47:02 2023
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 5:40:18 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 17:34, Tommy wrote:
    The Hunter BooBoo crowd thought they had an agreement with the DOJ prosecutors: a slap on the wrist for actual felony offenses and
    future immunity from other actual felony offenses like the Foreign
    Agents Registration Act. BooBoo was really agitated, pacing around
    the courtroom like a caged animal.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rip-it-up-inside-the-dramatic-unraveling-of-hunter-biden-s-plea-deal/ar-AA1eoKD3?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=e528bc1c6b574390840cc9799989460e&ei=15
    Doesn't exactly track with your claims that the DoJ is all in for Biden,
    now does it?

    But the most bizarre aspect of the proceedings was when it was
    revealed that a defense lawyer IMPERSONATED a member of the
    Republican representative Jason Smith's (Mo.) staff, who chairs the
    House Ways and Means Committee, in order to get a piece of evidence REMOVED! This is a CRIME against the court and shows the extent to
    which these turds will VIOLATE THE LAW! Biden's team said the issue "appears to stem from an unfortunate and unintentional
    miscommunication between a staff member at our firm and employees of
    the Court." Tell me, PLEASE, how is it "unintentional" that you
    identify yourself as someone who you AREN'T???

    https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/judge-says-hunter-biden-legal-team-misrepresented-identity-to-hide-evidence-threatens-sanction/
    And the actual evidence that this took place is... ...what?

    And it wasn't a defense lawyer, BTW.

    Can't you read your own sources

    No, it is YOU that can't read:

    Jessica Bengels, a staffer for the Biden law firm

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Wed Jul 26 17:50:28 2023
    On 2023-07-26 17:47, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 5:40:18 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 17:34, Tommy wrote:
    The Hunter BooBoo crowd thought they had an agreement with the DOJ
    prosecutors: a slap on the wrist for actual felony offenses and
    future immunity from other actual felony offenses like the Foreign
    Agents Registration Act. BooBoo was really agitated, pacing around
    the courtroom like a caged animal.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rip-it-up-inside-the-dramatic-unraveling-of-hunter-biden-s-plea-deal/ar-AA1eoKD3?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=e528bc1c6b574390840cc9799989460e&ei=15
    Doesn't exactly track with your claims that the DoJ is all in for Biden,
    now does it?

    But the most bizarre aspect of the proceedings was when it was
    revealed that a defense lawyer IMPERSONATED a member of the
    Republican representative Jason Smith's (Mo.) staff, who chairs the
    House Ways and Means Committee, in order to get a piece of evidence
    REMOVED! This is a CRIME against the court and shows the extent to
    which these turds will VIOLATE THE LAW! Biden's team said the issue
    "appears to stem from an unfortunate and unintentional
    miscommunication between a staff member at our firm and employees of
    the Court." Tell me, PLEASE, how is it "unintentional" that you
    identify yourself as someone who you AREN'T???

    https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/judge-says-hunter-biden-legal-team-misrepresented-identity-to-hide-evidence-threatens-sanction/
    And the actual evidence that this took place is... ...what?

    And it wasn't a defense lawyer, BTW.

    Can't you read your own sources

    No, it is YOU that can't read:

    Jessica Bengels, a staffer for the Biden law firm

    A staffer is not necessarily a lawyer, Sunshine.

    Certainly, she was not one of his defense lawyers.

    You get that not all lawyers at a firm work for a particular client, right?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Wed Jul 26 18:24:40 2023
    On 2023-07-26 18:24, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 5:50:53 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 17:47, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 5:40:18 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 17:34, Tommy wrote:
    The Hunter BooBoo crowd thought they had an agreement with the DOJ
    prosecutors: a slap on the wrist for actual felony offenses and
    future immunity from other actual felony offenses like the Foreign
    Agents Registration Act. BooBoo was really agitated, pacing around
    the courtroom like a caged animal.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rip-it-up-inside-the-dramatic-unraveling-of-hunter-biden-s-plea-deal/ar-AA1eoKD3?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=e528bc1c6b574390840cc9799989460e&ei=15
    Doesn't exactly track with your claims that the DoJ is all in for Biden, >>>> now does it?

    YES it DOES, Fool!!!!!
    Explain how.

    Explaining ANYTHING to you is a FOOL'S ERRAND, Fool.

    So you can't.

    Got it.

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Jul 26 21:59:17 2023
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 6:24:44 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 18:24, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 5:50:53 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 17:47, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 5:40:18 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 17:34, Tommy wrote:
    The Hunter BooBoo crowd thought they had an agreement with the DOJ >>>>> prosecutors: a slap on the wrist for actual felony offenses and
    future immunity from other actual felony offenses like the Foreign >>>>> Agents Registration Act. BooBoo was really agitated, pacing around >>>>> the courtroom like a caged animal.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rip-it-up-inside-the-dramatic-unraveling-of-hunter-biden-s-plea-deal/ar-AA1eoKD3?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=e528bc1c6b574390840cc9799989460e&ei=15
    Doesn't exactly track with your claims that the DoJ is all in for Biden,
    now does it?

    YES it DOES, Fool!!!!!
    Explain how.

    Explaining ANYTHING to you is a FOOL'S ERRAND, Fool.
    So you can't.

    Got it.

    No, you ARE a Fool and explaining ANYTHING to you IS a Fool's Errand.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Wed Jul 26 23:55:08 2023
    On 2023-07-26 21:59, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 6:24:44 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 18:24, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 5:50:53 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 17:47, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 5:40:18 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 17:34, Tommy wrote:
    The Hunter BooBoo crowd thought they had an agreement with the DOJ >>>>>>> prosecutors: a slap on the wrist for actual felony offenses and
    future immunity from other actual felony offenses like the Foreign >>>>>>> Agents Registration Act. BooBoo was really agitated, pacing around >>>>>>> the courtroom like a caged animal.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rip-it-up-inside-the-dramatic-unraveling-of-hunter-biden-s-plea-deal/ar-AA1eoKD3?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=e528bc1c6b574390840cc9799989460e&ei=15
    Doesn't exactly track with your claims that the DoJ is all in for Biden, >>>>>> now does it?

    YES it DOES, Fool!!!!!
    Explain how.

    Explaining ANYTHING to you is a FOOL'S ERRAND, Fool.
    So you can't.

    Got it.

    No, you ARE a Fool and explaining ANYTHING to you IS a Fool's Errand.

    So you can't explain how a prosecutor NOT offering immunity for other allegations (as is ordinarily done with negotiated pleas) is supposedly
    being all in for Biden.

    Got it.

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu Jul 27 18:07:08 2023
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 11:55:12 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 21:59, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 6:24:44 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 18:24, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 5:50:53 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 17:47, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 5:40:18 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 17:34, Tommy wrote:
    The Hunter BooBoo crowd thought they had an agreement with the DOJ >>>>>>> prosecutors: a slap on the wrist for actual felony offenses and >>>>>>> future immunity from other actual felony offenses like the Foreign >>>>>>> Agents Registration Act. BooBoo was really agitated, pacing around >>>>>>> the courtroom like a caged animal.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rip-it-up-inside-the-dramatic-unraveling-of-hunter-biden-s-plea-deal/ar-AA1eoKD3?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=e528bc1c6b574390840cc9799989460e&ei=15
    Doesn't exactly track with your claims that the DoJ is all in for Biden,
    now does it?

    YES it DOES, Fool!!!!!
    Explain how.

    Explaining ANYTHING to you is a FOOL'S ERRAND, Fool.
    So you can't.

    Got it.

    No, you ARE a Fool and explaining ANYTHING to you IS a Fool's Errand.
    So you can't explain how a prosecutor NOT offering immunity for other allegations (as is ordinarily done with negotiated pleas) is supposedly being all in for Biden.

    Got it.

    Who says they WEREN'T doing exactly that?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Thu Jul 27 18:40:02 2023
    On 2023-07-27 18:07, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 11:55:12 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 21:59, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 6:24:44 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 18:24, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 5:50:53 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 17:47, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 5:40:18 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 17:34, Tommy wrote:
    The Hunter BooBoo crowd thought they had an agreement with the DOJ >>>>>>>>> prosecutors: a slap on the wrist for actual felony offenses and >>>>>>>>> future immunity from other actual felony offenses like the Foreign >>>>>>>>> Agents Registration Act. BooBoo was really agitated, pacing around >>>>>>>>> the courtroom like a caged animal.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rip-it-up-inside-the-dramatic-unraveling-of-hunter-biden-s-plea-deal/ar-AA1eoKD3?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=e528bc1c6b574390840cc9799989460e&ei=15
    Doesn't exactly track with your claims that the DoJ is all in for Biden,
    now does it?

    YES it DOES, Fool!!!!!
    Explain how.

    Explaining ANYTHING to you is a FOOL'S ERRAND, Fool.
    So you can't.

    Got it.

    No, you ARE a Fool and explaining ANYTHING to you IS a Fool's Errand.
    So you can't explain how a prosecutor NOT offering immunity for other
    allegations (as is ordinarily done with negotiated pleas) is supposedly
    being all in for Biden.

    Got it.

    Who says they WEREN'T doing exactly that?

    Doing exactly WHAT, Sunshine?

    The plea deal fell apart because prosecutors WERE NOT offering immunity
    from other crimes.

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Jul 28 12:18:20 2023
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 6:40:06 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-27 18:07, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 11:55:12 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 21:59, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 6:24:44 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 18:24, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 5:50:53 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 17:47, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 5:40:18 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2023-07-26 17:34, Tommy wrote:
    The Hunter BooBoo crowd thought they had an agreement with the DOJ >>>>>>>>> prosecutors: a slap on the wrist for actual felony offenses and >>>>>>>>> future immunity from other actual felony offenses like the Foreign >>>>>>>>> Agents Registration Act. BooBoo was really agitated, pacing around >>>>>>>>> the courtroom like a caged animal.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rip-it-up-inside-the-dramatic-unraveling-of-hunter-biden-s-plea-deal/ar-AA1eoKD3?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=e528bc1c6b574390840cc9799989460e&ei=15
    Doesn't exactly track with your claims that the DoJ is all in for Biden,
    now does it?

    YES it DOES, Fool!!!!!
    Explain how.

    Explaining ANYTHING to you is a FOOL'S ERRAND, Fool.
    So you can't.

    Got it.

    No, you ARE a Fool and explaining ANYTHING to you IS a Fool's Errand.
    So you can't explain how a prosecutor NOT offering immunity for other
    allegations (as is ordinarily done with negotiated pleas) is supposedly >> being all in for Biden.

    Got it.

    Who says they WEREN'T doing exactly that?
    Doing exactly WHAT, Sunshine?

    The plea deal fell apart because prosecutors WERE NOT offering immunity
    from other crimes.

    No, Fool, they tried to slip in an immunity deal with the hope that the Judge would not notice. Well, she DID!
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/hunter-biden-plea-agreement/story?id=101718321
    How is it that virtually every time you get things exactly BACKWARDS?

    Furthermore, BooBoo never paid the back taxes himself - a lawyer by the name of Kevin Morris did. The question is, what is in it for Morris? On top of that, BooBoo called that money from Morris a "loan," otherwise it would be a gift and he would owe
    taxes on the gift. What are the terms of the loan, how much, how often and what interest does BooBoo have to pay Morris? If this isn't specified then it is a gift and BooBoo is guilty of addition tax laws.
    https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-kevin-morris-rips-bong-as-first-son-visits-la-home/
    https://nypost.com/2022/05/08/hollywood-lawyer-kevin-morris-paid-off-over-2m-of-hunter-bidens-taxes/

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Fri Jul 28 13:02:59 2023
    On 2023-07-28 12:18, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 6:40:06 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-27 18:07, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 11:55:12 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 21:59, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 6:24:44 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 18:24, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 5:50:53 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 17:47, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 5:40:18 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 17:34, Tommy wrote:
    The Hunter BooBoo crowd thought they had an
    agreement with the DOJ prosecutors: a slap on the
    wrist for actual felony offenses and future
    immunity from other actual felony offenses like
    the Foreign Agents Registration Act. BooBoo was
    really agitated, pacing around the courtroom like
    a caged animal.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rip-it-up-inside-the-dramatic-unraveling-of-hunter-biden-s-plea-deal/ar-AA1eoKD3?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=e528bc1c6b574390840cc9799989460e&ei=15


    Doesn't exactly track with your claims that the DoJ is all in for Biden, >>>>>>>>>> now does it?

    YES it DOES, Fool!!!!!
    Explain how.

    Explaining ANYTHING to you is a FOOL'S ERRAND, Fool.
    So you can't.

    Got it.

    No, you ARE a Fool and explaining ANYTHING to you IS a Fool's
    Errand.
    So you can't explain how a prosecutor NOT offering immunity for
    other allegations (as is ordinarily done with negotiated pleas)
    is supposedly being all in for Biden.

    Got it.

    Who says they WEREN'T doing exactly that?
    Doing exactly WHAT, Sunshine?

    The plea deal fell apart because prosecutors WERE NOT offering
    immunity from other crimes.

    No, Fool, they tried to slip in an immunity deal with the hope that
    the Judge would not notice. Well, she DID! https://abcnews.go.com/US/hunter-biden-plea-agreement/story?id=101718321


    How is it that virtually every time you get things exactly BACKWARDS?

    <sigh>

    Sunshine, little Sunshine...

    Why do you never have the goods...

    ...and I always do:

    'U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina), Ranking Member of the
    Senate Judiciary Committee, today made this statement on Hunter Biden’s
    plea agreement being delayed.

    ...

    "When the judge asked the prosecutor if the plea agreement covered
    ongoing investigations related to Hunter Biden’s activities with foreign governments and foreign agents, the prosecutor said no. The defense
    immediately challenged that statement and eventually withdrew from the
    plea agreement and entered a plea of not guilty."'

    <https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/press/rep/releases/graham-statement-on-hunter-biden-plea-deal>

    That is Lindsey Graham talking, Sunshine.

    And he is stating UNEQUIVOCALLY that the prosecutors were NOT granting
    Biden immunity.

    And here's that well-known leftist rag, Forbes, saying the same thing:

    'But the plea agreement unraveled in court Wednesday when prosecutors
    indicated the investigation was ongoing and Biden could face additional charges, including a potential violation of the Foreign Agents
    Registration Act,'

    <https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2023/07/26/hunter-biden-pleads-not-guilty-to-federal-charges-after-plea-deal-unravels/?sh=66320c9f3796>

    Would you like me to cite a few more sources, Sunshine...

    ...or have you lost enough for now?

    :-)


    Furthermore, BooBoo never paid the back taxes himself - a lawyer by
    the name of Kevin Morris did. The question is, what is in it for
    Morris? On top of that, BooBoo called that money from Morris a
    "loan," otherwise it would be a gift and he would owe taxes on the
    gift. What are the terms of the loan, how much, how often and what
    interest does BooBoo have to pay Morris? If this isn't specified then
    it is a gift and BooBoo is guilty of addition tax laws. https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-kevin-morris-rips-bong-as-first-son-visits-la-home/


    https://nypost.com/2022/05/08/hollywood-lawyer-kevin-morris-paid-off-over-2m-of-hunter-bidens-taxes/

    An anonymous source made that claim...

    ...more than two months ago.

    And there's still no substantiation for it.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Sat Jul 29 10:37:04 2023
    On 2023-07-29 10:25, Tommy wrote:

    Furthermore, BooBoo never paid the back taxes himself - a lawyer
    by the name of Kevin Morris did. The question is, what is in it
    for Morris? On top of that, BooBoo called that money from Morris
    a "loan," otherwise it would be a gift and he would owe taxes on
    the gift. What are the terms of the loan, how much, how often and
    what interest does BooBoo have to pay Morris? If this isn't
    specified then it is a gift and BooBoo is guilty of addition tax
    laws.
    https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-kevin-morris-rips-bong-as-first-son-visits-la-home/



    https://nypost.com/2022/05/08/hollywood-lawyer-kevin-morris-paid-off-over-2m-of-hunter-bidens-taxes/
    An anonymous source made that claim...

    ...more than two months ago.

    And there's still no substantiation for it.

    BooBoo said that he took out a loan to pay his taxes; WHO gave him
    that loan? And the same thing applies: if that "loan" is in reality a
    gift BooBoo owes taxes on the gift.

    You don't pay taxes on gifts, Sunshine.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html


    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-guilty-plea-agreement-tax-investigation/
    "The two misdemeanor tax charges relate to his willful failure to pay
    taxes for 2017 and 2018. A filing indicates Hunter Biden had more
    than $1.5 million in income each year. He has since fully repaid back
    taxes and fines, including $2 million reportedly paid to the federal government last year, with the help of a loan from his personal
    attorney."

    Again:

    A month old.

    No source provided.

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat Jul 29 10:17:18 2023
    On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 1:03:13 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-28 12:18, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 6:40:06 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-27 18:07, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 11:55:12 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 21:59, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 6:24:44 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 18:24, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 5:50:53 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 17:47, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 5:40:18 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 17:34, Tommy wrote:
    The Hunter BooBoo crowd thought they had an
    agreement with the DOJ prosecutors: a slap on the
    wrist for actual felony offenses and future
    immunity from other actual felony offenses like
    the Foreign Agents Registration Act. BooBoo was
    really agitated, pacing around the courtroom like
    a caged animal.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rip-it-up-inside-the-dramatic-unraveling-of-hunter-biden-s-plea-deal/ar-AA1eoKD3?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=e528bc1c6b574390840cc9799989460e&ei=15


    Doesn't exactly track with your claims that the DoJ is all in for Biden, >>>>>>>>>> now does it?

    YES it DOES, Fool!!!!!
    Explain how.

    Explaining ANYTHING to you is a FOOL'S ERRAND, Fool.
    So you can't.

    Got it.

    No, you ARE a Fool and explaining ANYTHING to you IS a Fool's
    Errand.
    So you can't explain how a prosecutor NOT offering immunity for
    other allegations (as is ordinarily done with negotiated pleas)
    is supposedly being all in for Biden.

    Got it.

    Who says they WEREN'T doing exactly that?
    Doing exactly WHAT, Sunshine?

    The plea deal fell apart because prosecutors WERE NOT offering
    immunity from other crimes.

    No, Fool, they tried to slip in an immunity deal with the hope that
    the Judge would not notice. Well, she DID! https://abcnews.go.com/US/hunter-biden-plea-agreement/story?id=101718321


    How is it that virtually every time you get things exactly BACKWARDS?
    <sigh>

    Sunshine, little Sunshine...

    Why do you never have the goods...

    ...and I always do:

    'U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina), Ranking Member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, today made this statement on Hunter Biden’s plea agreement being delayed.

    ...

    "When the judge asked the prosecutor if the plea agreement covered
    ongoing investigations related to Hunter Biden’s activities with foreign governments and foreign agents, the prosecutor said no. The defense immediately challenged that statement and eventually withdrew from the
    plea agreement and entered a plea of not guilty."'

    <https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/press/rep/releases/graham-statement-on-hunter-biden-plea-deal>

    That is Lindsey Graham talking, Sunshine.

    And he is stating UNEQUIVOCALLY that the prosecutors were NOT granting
    Biden immunity.

    And here's that well-known leftist rag, Forbes, saying the same thing:

    'But the plea agreement unraveled in court Wednesday when prosecutors indicated the investigation was ongoing and Biden could face additional charges, including a potential violation of the Foreign Agents
    Registration Act,'

    <https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2023/07/26/hunter-biden-pleads-not-guilty-to-federal-charges-after-plea-deal-unravels/?sh=66320c9f3796>

    Would you like me to cite a few more sources, Sunshine...

    ...or have you lost enough for now?

    :-)

    Furthermore, BooBoo never paid the back taxes himself - a lawyer by
    the name of Kevin Morris did. The question is, what is in it for
    Morris? On top of that, BooBoo called that money from Morris a
    "loan," otherwise it would be a gift and he would owe taxes on the
    gift. What are the terms of the loan, how much, how often and what interest does BooBoo have to pay Morris? If this isn't specified then
    it is a gift and BooBoo is guilty of addition tax laws. https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-kevin-morris-rips-bong-as-first-son-visits-la-home/


    https://nypost.com/2022/05/08/hollywood-lawyer-kevin-morris-paid-off-over-2m-of-hunter-bidens-taxes/
    An anonymous source made that claim...

    ...more than two months ago.

    And there's still no substantiation for it.

    Hey Fool, OF COURSE the prosecutors didn't give BooBoo immunity - AFTER the Judge torpedoed the WHOLE PLAN! That doesn't mean that they didn't TRY to do it, and came to court with that plan. Are you this STUPID or this CONIVING?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Sat Jul 29 10:33:12 2023
    On 2023-07-29 10:17, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 1:03:13 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-28 12:18, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 6:40:06 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-27 18:07, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 11:55:12 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 21:59, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 6:24:44 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 18:24, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 5:50:53 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 17:47, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 5:40:18 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 17:34, Tommy wrote:
    The Hunter BooBoo crowd thought they had an
    agreement with the DOJ prosecutors: a slap on the
    wrist for actual felony offenses and future
    immunity from other actual felony offenses like
    the Foreign Agents Registration Act. BooBoo was
    really agitated, pacing around the courtroom like
    a caged animal.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rip-it-up-inside-the-dramatic-unraveling-of-hunter-biden-s-plea-deal/ar-AA1eoKD3?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=e528bc1c6b574390840cc9799989460e&ei=15


    Doesn't exactly track with your claims that the DoJ is all in for Biden, >>>>>>>>>>>> now does it?

    YES it DOES, Fool!!!!!
    Explain how.

    Explaining ANYTHING to you is a FOOL'S ERRAND, Fool.
    So you can't.

    Got it.

    No, you ARE a Fool and explaining ANYTHING to you IS a Fool's
    Errand.
    So you can't explain how a prosecutor NOT offering immunity for
    other allegations (as is ordinarily done with negotiated pleas)
    is supposedly being all in for Biden.

    Got it.

    Who says they WEREN'T doing exactly that?
    Doing exactly WHAT, Sunshine?

    The plea deal fell apart because prosecutors WERE NOT offering
    immunity from other crimes.

    No, Fool, they tried to slip in an immunity deal with the hope that
    the Judge would not notice. Well, she DID!
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/hunter-biden-plea-agreement/story?id=101718321 >>>

    How is it that virtually every time you get things exactly BACKWARDS?
    <sigh>

    Sunshine, little Sunshine...

    Why do you never have the goods...

    ...and I always do:

    'U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina), Ranking Member of the
    Senate Judiciary Committee, today made this statement on Hunter Biden’s
    plea agreement being delayed.

    ...

    "When the judge asked the prosecutor if the plea agreement covered
    ongoing investigations related to Hunter Biden’s activities with foreign >> governments and foreign agents, the prosecutor said no. The defense
    immediately challenged that statement and eventually withdrew from the
    plea agreement and entered a plea of not guilty."'

    <https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/press/rep/releases/graham-statement-on-hunter-biden-plea-deal>

    That is Lindsey Graham talking, Sunshine.

    And he is stating UNEQUIVOCALLY that the prosecutors were NOT granting
    Biden immunity.

    And here's that well-known leftist rag, Forbes, saying the same thing:

    'But the plea agreement unraveled in court Wednesday when prosecutors
    indicated the investigation was ongoing and Biden could face additional
    charges, including a potential violation of the Foreign Agents
    Registration Act,'

    <https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2023/07/26/hunter-biden-pleads-not-guilty-to-federal-charges-after-plea-deal-unravels/?sh=66320c9f3796>

    Would you like me to cite a few more sources, Sunshine...

    ...or have you lost enough for now?

    :-)

    Furthermore, BooBoo never paid the back taxes himself - a lawyer by
    the name of Kevin Morris did. The question is, what is in it for
    Morris? On top of that, BooBoo called that money from Morris a
    "loan," otherwise it would be a gift and he would owe taxes on the
    gift. What are the terms of the loan, how much, how often and what
    interest does BooBoo have to pay Morris? If this isn't specified then
    it is a gift and BooBoo is guilty of addition tax laws.
    https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-kevin-morris-rips-bong-as-first-son-visits-la-home/


    https://nypost.com/2022/05/08/hollywood-lawyer-kevin-morris-paid-off-over-2m-of-hunter-bidens-taxes/
    An anonymous source made that claim...

    ...more than two months ago.

    And there's still no substantiation for it.

    Hey Fool, OF COURSE the prosecutors didn't give BooBoo immunity - AFTER the Judge torpedoed the WHOLE PLAN! That doesn't mean that they didn't TRY to do it, and came to court with that plan. Are you this STUPID or this CONIVING?

    Lindsay Graham...

    REPUBLICAN

    ...says different.

    And I notice you don't even TRY to address that you have nothing except
    a two month old reference.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat Jul 29 10:25:56 2023
    On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 1:03:13 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-28 12:18, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 6:40:06 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-27 18:07, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 11:55:12 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 21:59, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 6:24:44 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 18:24, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 5:50:53 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 17:47, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 5:40:18 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-07-26 17:34, Tommy wrote:
    The Hunter BooBoo crowd thought they had an
    agreement with the DOJ prosecutors: a slap on the
    wrist for actual felony offenses and future
    immunity from other actual felony offenses like
    the Foreign Agents Registration Act. BooBoo was
    really agitated, pacing around the courtroom like
    a caged animal.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rip-it-up-inside-the-dramatic-unraveling-of-hunter-biden-s-plea-deal/ar-AA1eoKD3?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=e528bc1c6b574390840cc9799989460e&ei=15


    Doesn't exactly track with your claims that the DoJ is all in for Biden, >>>>>>>>>> now does it?

    YES it DOES, Fool!!!!!
    Explain how.

    Explaining ANYTHING to you is a FOOL'S ERRAND, Fool.
    So you can't.

    Got it.

    No, you ARE a Fool and explaining ANYTHING to you IS a Fool's
    Errand.
    So you can't explain how a prosecutor NOT offering immunity for
    other allegations (as is ordinarily done with negotiated pleas)
    is supposedly being all in for Biden.

    Got it.

    Who says they WEREN'T doing exactly that?
    Doing exactly WHAT, Sunshine?

    The plea deal fell apart because prosecutors WERE NOT offering
    immunity from other crimes.

    No, Fool, they tried to slip in an immunity deal with the hope that
    the Judge would not notice. Well, she DID! https://abcnews.go.com/US/hunter-biden-plea-agreement/story?id=101718321


    How is it that virtually every time you get things exactly BACKWARDS?
    <sigh>

    Sunshine, little Sunshine...

    Why do you never have the goods...

    ...and I always do:

    'U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina), Ranking Member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, today made this statement on Hunter Biden’s plea agreement being delayed.

    ...

    "When the judge asked the prosecutor if the plea agreement covered
    ongoing investigations related to Hunter Biden’s activities with foreign governments and foreign agents, the prosecutor said no. The defense immediately challenged that statement and eventually withdrew from the
    plea agreement and entered a plea of not guilty."'

    <https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/press/rep/releases/graham-statement-on-hunter-biden-plea-deal>

    That is Lindsey Graham talking, Sunshine.

    And he is stating UNEQUIVOCALLY that the prosecutors were NOT granting
    Biden immunity.

    And here's that well-known leftist rag, Forbes, saying the same thing:

    'But the plea agreement unraveled in court Wednesday when prosecutors indicated the investigation was ongoing and Biden could face additional charges, including a potential violation of the Foreign Agents
    Registration Act,'

    <https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2023/07/26/hunter-biden-pleads-not-guilty-to-federal-charges-after-plea-deal-unravels/?sh=66320c9f3796>

    Would you like me to cite a few more sources, Sunshine...

    ...or have you lost enough for now?

    :-)

    Furthermore, BooBoo never paid the back taxes himself - a lawyer by
    the name of Kevin Morris did. The question is, what is in it for
    Morris? On top of that, BooBoo called that money from Morris a
    "loan," otherwise it would be a gift and he would owe taxes on the
    gift. What are the terms of the loan, how much, how often and what interest does BooBoo have to pay Morris? If this isn't specified then
    it is a gift and BooBoo is guilty of addition tax laws. https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-kevin-morris-rips-bong-as-first-son-visits-la-home/


    https://nypost.com/2022/05/08/hollywood-lawyer-kevin-morris-paid-off-over-2m-of-hunter-bidens-taxes/
    An anonymous source made that claim...

    ...more than two months ago.

    And there's still no substantiation for it.

    BooBoo said that he took out a loan to pay his taxes; WHO gave him that loan? And the same thing applies: if that "loan" is in reality a gift BooBoo owes taxes on the gift.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-guilty-plea-agreement-tax-investigation/
    "The two misdemeanor tax charges relate to his willful failure to pay taxes for 2017 and 2018. A filing indicates Hunter Biden had more than $1.5 million in income each year. He has since fully repaid back taxes and fines, including $2 million reportedly
    paid to the federal government last year, with the help of a loan from his personal attorney."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Sat Jul 29 11:40:29 2023
    On 2023-07-29 11:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:37:08 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 10:25, Tommy wrote:

    Furthermore, BooBoo never paid the back taxes himself - a
    lawyer by the name of Kevin Morris did. The question is, what
    is in it for Morris? On top of that, BooBoo called that money
    from Morris a "loan," otherwise it would be a gift and he
    would owe taxes on the gift. What are the terms of the loan,
    how much, how often and what interest does BooBoo have to pay
    Morris? If this isn't specified then it is a gift and BooBoo
    is guilty of addition tax laws.
    https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-kevin-morris-rips-bong-as-first-son-visits-la-home/





    https://nypost.com/2022/05/08/hollywood-lawyer-kevin-morris-paid-off-over-2m-of-hunter-bidens-taxes/
    An anonymous source made that claim...

    ...more than two months ago.

    And there's still no substantiation for it.

    BooBoo said that he took out a loan to pay his taxes; WHO gave
    him that loan? And the same thing applies: if that "loan" is in
    reality a gift BooBoo owes taxes on the gift.
    You don't pay taxes on gifts, Sunshine.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html



    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-guilty-plea-agreement-tax-investigation/
    "The two misdemeanor tax charges relate to his willful failure to
    pay taxes for 2017 and 2018. A filing indicates Hunter Biden had
    more than $1.5 million in income each year. He has since fully
    repaid back taxes and fines, including $2 million reportedly paid
    to the federal government last year, with the help of a loan from
    his personal attorney."
    Again:

    A month old.

    No source provided.

    Hey Fool, because that was WHEN BooBoo "paid" his taxes (although he
    pay them, Morris did).

    You still haven't provided any proof of that.


    And now the immunity deal is off the table and BooBoo and the crooked attorneys are going to have to dream up a new deal. He has more tax
    charges he is facing AND the FARA violation. And this IS NOT a "slap
    on the wrist" offense
    (https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara/recent-cases):

    There was NO "immunity deal".

    When he was getting ready to enter his plea, the judge asked if he was
    getting immunity from other investigations that might result in charges
    and the judge was told "NO".


    "Manafort failed to register under FARA as an agent of the Government
    of Ukraine, the Ukrainian Party of Regions, and former Ukrainian
    President Yanukovych. Manafort was sentenced to 73 months’
    imprisonment, including the statutory maximum 60 months for the
    conspiracy to violate FARA (Manafort is due to serve an additional 17
    months stemming from his conviction in the Eastern District of
    Virginia)."

    Whataboutism.


    Note that BooBoo was being paid, at least, $83,000 a month by Burisma
    to lobby Papa Lyin' Joe. In reality, he and his firm were paid
    MILLIONS by Burisma: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-shows-firm-took-11-million-2013-2018-rcna29462
    There is no proof that that was actually a true copy of any laptop owned
    by Biden.

    Since you like NBC News now, here's another story they wrote:

    'Trump and his allies say there is evidence of corruption in emails and documents allegedly found on a laptop belonging to Democrat Joe Biden’s
    son. They say those and other documents show that Hunter Biden used his father’s influence to enrich himself through business deals in Ukraine
    and China, and that his father not only facilitated that, but may have benefited financially.

    But the Wall Street Journal and Fox News — among the only news
    organizations that have been given access to key documents — found that
    the emails and other records don’t make that case. Leaving aside the
    many questions about their provenance, the materials offered no evidence
    that Joe Biden played any role in his son’s dealings in China, let alone profited from them, both news organizations concluded.'

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/here-s-what-happened-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533>

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat Jul 29 11:30:49 2023
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:37:08 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 10:25, Tommy wrote:

    Furthermore, BooBoo never paid the back taxes himself - a lawyer
    by the name of Kevin Morris did. The question is, what is in it
    for Morris? On top of that, BooBoo called that money from Morris
    a "loan," otherwise it would be a gift and he would owe taxes on
    the gift. What are the terms of the loan, how much, how often and
    what interest does BooBoo have to pay Morris? If this isn't
    specified then it is a gift and BooBoo is guilty of addition tax
    laws.
    https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-kevin-morris-rips-bong-as-first-son-visits-la-home/



    https://nypost.com/2022/05/08/hollywood-lawyer-kevin-morris-paid-off-over-2m-of-hunter-bidens-taxes/
    An anonymous source made that claim...

    ...more than two months ago.

    And there's still no substantiation for it.

    BooBoo said that he took out a loan to pay his taxes; WHO gave him
    that loan? And the same thing applies: if that "loan" is in reality a
    gift BooBoo owes taxes on the gift.
    You don't pay taxes on gifts, Sunshine.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html


    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-guilty-plea-agreement-tax-investigation/
    "The two misdemeanor tax charges relate to his willful failure to pay taxes for 2017 and 2018. A filing indicates Hunter Biden had more
    than $1.5 million in income each year. He has since fully repaid back taxes and fines, including $2 million reportedly paid to the federal government last year, with the help of a loan from his personal
    attorney."
    Again:

    A month old.

    No source provided.

    Hey Fool, because that was WHEN BooBoo "paid" his taxes (although he pay them, Morris did).

    And now the immunity deal is off the table and BooBoo and the crooked attorneys are going to have to dream up a new deal. He has more tax charges he is facing AND the FARA violation. And this IS NOT a "slap on the wrist" offense (https://www.justice.gov/
    nsd-fara/recent-cases):

    "Manafort failed to register under FARA as an agent of the Government of Ukraine, the Ukrainian Party of Regions, and former Ukrainian President Yanukovych. Manafort was sentenced to 73 months’ imprisonment, including the statutory maximum 60 months
    for the conspiracy to violate FARA (Manafort is due to serve an additional 17 months stemming from his conviction in the Eastern District of Virginia)."

    Note that BooBoo was being paid, at least, $83,000 a month by Burisma to lobby Papa Lyin' Joe. In reality, he and his firm were paid MILLIONS by Burisma:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-shows-firm-took-11-million-2013-2018-rcna29462

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Sat Jul 29 17:24:14 2023
    On 2023-07-29 17:19, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 11:40:33 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 11:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:37:08 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 10:25, Tommy wrote:

    Furthermore, BooBoo never paid the back taxes himself -
    a lawyer by the name of Kevin Morris did. The question
    is, what is in it for Morris? On top of that, BooBoo
    called that money from Morris a "loan," otherwise it
    would be a gift and he would owe taxes on the gift. What
    are the terms of the loan, how much, how often and what
    interest does BooBoo have to pay Morris? If this isn't
    specified then it is a gift and BooBoo is guilty of
    addition tax laws.
    https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-kevin-morris-rips-bong-as-first-son-visits-la-home/







    https://nypost.com/2022/05/08/hollywood-lawyer-kevin-morris-paid-off-over-2m-of-hunter-bidens-taxes/
    An anonymous source made that claim...

    ...more than two months ago.

    And there's still no substantiation for it.

    BooBoo said that he took out a loan to pay his taxes; WHO
    gave him that loan? And the same thing applies: if that
    "loan" is in reality a gift BooBoo owes taxes on the gift.
    You don't pay taxes on gifts, Sunshine.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html





    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-guilty-plea-agreement-tax-investigation/
    "The two misdemeanor tax charges relate to his willful
    failure to pay taxes for 2017 and 2018. A filing indicates
    Hunter Biden had more than $1.5 million in income each year.
    He has since fully repaid back taxes and fines, including $2
    million reportedly paid to the federal government last year,
    with the help of a loan from his personal attorney."
    Again:

    A month old.

    No source provided.

    Hey Fool, because that was WHEN BooBoo "paid" his taxes (although
    he pay them, Morris did).
    You still haven't provided any proof of that.

    And now the immunity deal is off the table and BooBoo and the
    crooked attorneys are going to have to dream up a new deal. He
    has more tax charges he is facing AND the FARA violation. And
    this IS NOT a "slap on the wrist" offense
    (https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara/recent-cases):
    There was NO "immunity deal".

    When he was getting ready to enter his plea, the judge asked if he
    was getting immunity from other investigations that might result in
    charges and the judge was told "NO".

    "Manafort failed to register under FARA as an agent of the
    Government of Ukraine, the Ukrainian Party of Regions, and former
    Ukrainian President Yanukovych. Manafort was sentenced to 73
    months’ imprisonment, including the statutory maximum 60 months
    for the conspiracy to violate FARA (Manafort is due to serve an
    additional 17 months stemming from his conviction in the Eastern
    District of Virginia)."
    Whataboutism.

    Note that BooBoo was being paid, at least, $83,000 a month by
    Burisma to lobby Papa Lyin' Joe. In reality, he and his firm were
    paid MILLIONS by Burisma:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-shows-firm-took-11-million-2013-2018-rcna29462


    There is no proof that that was actually a true copy of any laptop
    owned by Biden.

    Since you like NBC News now, here's another story they wrote:

    'Trump and his allies say there is evidence of corruption in emails
    and documents allegedly found on a laptop belonging to Democrat Joe
    Biden’s son. They say those and other documents show that Hunter
    Biden used his father’s influence to enrich himself through
    business deals in Ukraine and China, and that his father not only
    facilitated that, but may have benefited financially.

    But the Wall Street Journal and Fox News — among the only news
    organizations that have been given access to key documents — found
    that the emails and other records don’t make that case. Leaving
    aside the many questions about their provenance, the materials
    offered no evidence that Joe Biden played any role in his son’s
    dealings in China, let alone profited from them, both news
    organizations concluded.'

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/here-s-what-happened-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533>


    Hey Fool, it is NOT my duty to provide "proof" of ANYTHING as I am
    NOT a prosecutor - I am just reporting the facts.

    Nope. You're reporting ASSERTIONS as IF they were facts.

    You don't seem to
    grasp the difference. The Lyin' Biden crime family is clearly
    disintegrating as the facts come out. I think that even you
    acknowledge that BooBoo's laptop is legitimate - which you DENIED for
    YEARS. BooBoo has gone from untouchable to having to face trial for
    felonies.

    Sorry, but that's not what I said.

    All we know is that Giuliani handed someone a hard drive he CLAIMED was
    a copy of the drive in a laptop he claimed was Hunter Biden's.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Sat Jul 29 17:33:17 2023
    On 2023-07-29 17:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:24:18 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:19, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 11:40:33 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 11:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:37:08 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 10:25, Tommy wrote:

    Furthermore, BooBoo never paid the back taxes himself
    - a lawyer by the name of Kevin Morris did. The
    question is, what is in it for Morris? On top of
    that, BooBoo called that money from Morris a "loan,"
    otherwise it would be a gift and he would owe taxes
    on the gift. What are the terms of the loan, how
    much, how often and what interest does BooBoo have to
    pay Morris? If this isn't specified then it is a gift
    and BooBoo is guilty of addition tax laws.
    https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-kevin-morris-rips-bong-as-first-son-visits-la-home/









    https://nypost.com/2022/05/08/hollywood-lawyer-kevin-morris-paid-off-over-2m-of-hunter-bidens-taxes/
    An anonymous source made that claim...

    ...more than two months ago.

    And there's still no substantiation for it.

    BooBoo said that he took out a loan to pay his taxes;
    WHO gave him that loan? And the same thing applies: if
    that "loan" is in reality a gift BooBoo owes taxes on the
    gift.
    You don't pay taxes on gifts, Sunshine.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html







    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-guilty-plea-agreement-tax-investigation/
    "The two misdemeanor tax charges relate to his willful
    failure to pay taxes for 2017 and 2018. A filing
    indicates Hunter Biden had more than $1.5 million in
    income each year. He has since fully repaid back taxes
    and fines, including $2 million reportedly paid to the
    federal government last year, with the help of a loan
    from his personal attorney."
    Again:

    A month old.

    No source provided.

    Hey Fool, because that was WHEN BooBoo "paid" his taxes
    (although he pay them, Morris did).
    You still haven't provided any proof of that.

    And now the immunity deal is off the table and BooBoo and
    the crooked attorneys are going to have to dream up a new
    deal. He has more tax charges he is facing AND the FARA
    violation. And this IS NOT a "slap on the wrist" offense
    (https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara/recent-cases):
    There was NO "immunity deal".

    When he was getting ready to enter his plea, the judge asked if
    he was getting immunity from other investigations that might
    result in charges and the judge was told "NO".

    "Manafort failed to register under FARA as an agent of the
    Government of Ukraine, the Ukrainian Party of Regions, and
    former Ukrainian President Yanukovych. Manafort was sentenced
    to 73 months’ imprisonment, including the statutory maximum
    60 months for the conspiracy to violate FARA (Manafort is due
    to serve an additional 17 months stemming from his conviction
    in the Eastern District of Virginia)."
    Whataboutism.

    Note that BooBoo was being paid, at least, $83,000 a month
    by Burisma to lobby Papa Lyin' Joe. In reality, he and his
    firm were paid MILLIONS by Burisma:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-shows-firm-took-11-million-2013-2018-rcna29462




    There is no proof that that was actually a true copy of any laptop
    owned by Biden.

    Since you like NBC News now, here's another story they wrote:

    'Trump and his allies say there is evidence of corruption in
    emails and documents allegedly found on a laptop belonging to
    Democrat Joe Biden’s son. They say those and other documents
    show that Hunter Biden used his father’s influence to enrich
    himself through business deals in Ukraine and China, and that
    his father not only facilitated that, but may have benefited
    financially.

    But the Wall Street Journal and Fox News — among the only news
    organizations that have been given access to key documents —
    found that the emails and other records don’t make that case.
    Leaving aside the many questions about their provenance, the
    materials offered no evidence that Joe Biden played any role in
    his son’s dealings in China, let alone profited from them, both
    news organizations concluded.'

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/here-s-what-happened-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533>




    Hey Fool, it is NOT my duty to provide "proof" of ANYTHING as I am
    NOT a prosecutor - I am just reporting the facts.
    Nope. You're reporting ASSERTIONS as IF they were facts.
    You don't seem to grasp the difference. The Lyin' Biden crime
    family is clearly disintegrating as the facts come out. I think
    that even you acknowledge that BooBoo's laptop is legitimate -
    which you DENIED for YEARS. BooBoo has gone from untouchable to
    having to face trial for felonies.
    Sorry, but that's not what I said.

    All we know is that Giuliani handed someone a hard drive he CLAIMED
    was a copy of the drive in a laptop he claimed was Hunter Biden's.

    Hey Fool, they ARE facts. BooBoo DID dodge millions in taxes that he
    is being prosecuted for. He DID lie on his gun application form that
    he is also being prosecuted for. He DID commit FARA violations which
    he SHOULD be prosecuted for. Lyin' Biden DID know about his business
    dealings despite his lies to the contrary.

    Sorry, but the FARA thing is NOT a fact. It is an assertion.

    Joe Biden knowing about his business dealings is also an assertion.


    This is the BIGEST political scandal EVER for the US which is why
    they are so desperate to keep Trump out of office.

    Well the 74 felonies for which there really ARE tons of facts (some
    straight from Trump himself) will probably take care of that.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat Jul 29 17:19:13 2023
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 11:40:33 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 11:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:37:08 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 10:25, Tommy wrote:

    Furthermore, BooBoo never paid the back taxes himself - a
    lawyer by the name of Kevin Morris did. The question is, what
    is in it for Morris? On top of that, BooBoo called that money
    from Morris a "loan," otherwise it would be a gift and he
    would owe taxes on the gift. What are the terms of the loan,
    how much, how often and what interest does BooBoo have to pay
    Morris? If this isn't specified then it is a gift and BooBoo
    is guilty of addition tax laws.
    https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-kevin-morris-rips-bong-as-first-son-visits-la-home/





    https://nypost.com/2022/05/08/hollywood-lawyer-kevin-morris-paid-off-over-2m-of-hunter-bidens-taxes/
    An anonymous source made that claim...

    ...more than two months ago.

    And there's still no substantiation for it.

    BooBoo said that he took out a loan to pay his taxes; WHO gave
    him that loan? And the same thing applies: if that "loan" is in
    reality a gift BooBoo owes taxes on the gift.
    You don't pay taxes on gifts, Sunshine.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html



    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-guilty-plea-agreement-tax-investigation/
    "The two misdemeanor tax charges relate to his willful failure to
    pay taxes for 2017 and 2018. A filing indicates Hunter Biden had
    more than $1.5 million in income each year. He has since fully
    repaid back taxes and fines, including $2 million reportedly paid
    to the federal government last year, with the help of a loan from
    his personal attorney."
    Again:

    A month old.

    No source provided.

    Hey Fool, because that was WHEN BooBoo "paid" his taxes (although he
    pay them, Morris did).
    You still haven't provided any proof of that.

    And now the immunity deal is off the table and BooBoo and the crooked attorneys are going to have to dream up a new deal. He has more tax charges he is facing AND the FARA violation. And this IS NOT a "slap
    on the wrist" offense
    (https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara/recent-cases):
    There was NO "immunity deal".

    When he was getting ready to enter his plea, the judge asked if he was getting immunity from other investigations that might result in charges
    and the judge was told "NO".

    "Manafort failed to register under FARA as an agent of the Government
    of Ukraine, the Ukrainian Party of Regions, and former Ukrainian
    President Yanukovych. Manafort was sentenced to 73 months’
    imprisonment, including the statutory maximum 60 months for the
    conspiracy to violate FARA (Manafort is due to serve an additional 17 months stemming from his conviction in the Eastern District of
    Virginia)."
    Whataboutism.

    Note that BooBoo was being paid, at least, $83,000 a month by Burisma
    to lobby Papa Lyin' Joe. In reality, he and his firm were paid
    MILLIONS by Burisma: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-shows-firm-took-11-million-2013-2018-rcna29462
    There is no proof that that was actually a true copy of any laptop owned
    by Biden.

    Since you like NBC News now, here's another story they wrote:

    'Trump and his allies say there is evidence of corruption in emails and documents allegedly found on a laptop belonging to Democrat Joe Biden’s son. They say those and other documents show that Hunter Biden used his father’s influence to enrich himself through business deals in Ukraine
    and China, and that his father not only facilitated that, but may have benefited financially.

    But the Wall Street Journal and Fox News — among the only news organizations that have been given access to key documents — found that the emails and other records don’t make that case. Leaving aside the
    many questions about their provenance, the materials offered no evidence that Joe Biden played any role in his son’s dealings in China, let alone profited from them, both news organizations concluded.'

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/here-s-what-happened-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533>

    Hey Fool, it is NOT my duty to provide "proof" of ANYTHING as I am NOT a prosecutor - I am just reporting the facts. You don't seem to grasp the difference. The Lyin' Biden crime family is clearly disintegrating as the facts come out. I think that even
    you acknowledge that BooBoo's laptop is legitimate - which you DENIED for YEARS. BooBoo has gone from untouchable to having to face trial for felonies.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Sat Jul 29 17:52:18 2023
    On 2023-07-29 17:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:33:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:24:18 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:19, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 11:40:33 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 11:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:37:08 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 10:25, Tommy wrote:

    Furthermore, BooBoo never paid the back taxes himself
    - a lawyer by the name of Kevin Morris did. The
    question is, what is in it for Morris? On top of
    that, BooBoo called that money from Morris a "loan,"
    otherwise it would be a gift and he would owe taxes
    on the gift. What are the terms of the loan, how
    much, how often and what interest does BooBoo have to
    pay Morris? If this isn't specified then it is a gift
    and BooBoo is guilty of addition tax laws.
    https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-kevin-morris-rips-bong-as-first-son-visits-la-home/










    https://nypost.com/2022/05/08/hollywood-lawyer-kevin-morris-paid-off-over-2m-of-hunter-bidens-taxes/
    An anonymous source made that claim...

    ...more than two months ago.

    And there's still no substantiation for it.

    BooBoo said that he took out a loan to pay his taxes;
    WHO gave him that loan? And the same thing applies: if
    that "loan" is in reality a gift BooBoo owes taxes on the
    gift.
    You don't pay taxes on gifts, Sunshine.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html








    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-guilty-plea-agreement-tax-investigation/
    "The two misdemeanor tax charges relate to his willful
    failure to pay taxes for 2017 and 2018. A filing
    indicates Hunter Biden had more than $1.5 million in
    income each year. He has since fully repaid back taxes
    and fines, including $2 million reportedly paid to the
    federal government last year, with the help of a loan
    from his personal attorney."
    Again:

    A month old.

    No source provided.

    Hey Fool, because that was WHEN BooBoo "paid" his taxes
    (although he pay them, Morris did).
    You still haven't provided any proof of that.

    And now the immunity deal is off the table and BooBoo and
    the crooked attorneys are going to have to dream up a new
    deal. He has more tax charges he is facing AND the FARA
    violation. And this IS NOT a "slap on the wrist" offense
    (https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara/recent-cases):
    There was NO "immunity deal".

    When he was getting ready to enter his plea, the judge asked if
    he was getting immunity from other investigations that might
    result in charges and the judge was told "NO".

    "Manafort failed to register under FARA as an agent of the
    Government of Ukraine, the Ukrainian Party of Regions, and
    former Ukrainian President Yanukovych. Manafort was sentenced
    to 73 months’ imprisonment, including the statutory maximum
    60 months for the conspiracy to violate FARA (Manafort is due
    to serve an additional 17 months stemming from his conviction
    in the Eastern District of Virginia)."
    Whataboutism.

    Note that BooBoo was being paid, at least, $83,000 a month
    by Burisma to lobby Papa Lyin' Joe. In reality, he and his
    firm were paid MILLIONS by Burisma:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-shows-firm-took-11-million-2013-2018-rcna29462




    There is no proof that that was actually a true copy of any laptop
    owned by Biden.

    Since you like NBC News now, here's another story they wrote:

    'Trump and his allies say there is evidence of corruption in
    emails and documents allegedly found on a laptop belonging to
    Democrat Joe Biden’s son. They say those and other documents
    show that Hunter Biden used his father’s influence to enrich
    himself through business deals in Ukraine and China, and that
    his father not only facilitated that, but may have benefited
    financially.

    But the Wall Street Journal and Fox News — among the only news
    organizations that have been given access to key documents —
    found that the emails and other records don’t make that case.
    Leaving aside the many questions about their provenance, the
    materials offered no evidence that Joe Biden played any role in
    his son’s dealings in China, let alone profited from them, both
    news organizations concluded.'

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/here-s-what-happened-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533>




    Hey Fool, it is NOT my duty to provide "proof" of ANYTHING as I am
    NOT a prosecutor - I am just reporting the facts.
    Nope. You're reporting ASSERTIONS as IF they were facts.
    You don't seem to grasp the difference. The Lyin' Biden crime
    family is clearly disintegrating as the facts come out. I think
    that even you acknowledge that BooBoo's laptop is legitimate -
    which you DENIED for YEARS. BooBoo has gone from untouchable to
    having to face trial for felonies.
    Sorry, but that's not what I said.

    All we know is that Giuliani handed someone a hard drive he CLAIMED
    was a copy of the drive in a laptop he claimed was Hunter Biden's.

    Hey Fool, they ARE facts. BooBoo DID dodge millions in taxes that he
    is being prosecuted for. He DID lie on his gun application form that
    he is also being prosecuted for. He DID commit FARA violations which
    he SHOULD be prosecuted for. Lyin' Biden DID know about his business
    dealings despite his lies to the contrary.
    Sorry, but the FARA thing is NOT a fact. It is an assertion.

    Joe Biden knowing about his business dealings is also an assertion.

    This is the BIGEST political scandal EVER for the US which is why
    they are so desperate to keep Trump out of office.
    Well the 74 felonies for which there really ARE tons of facts (some
    straight from Trump himself) will probably take care of that.

    No Fool, BooBoo ADMITTED to being paid by Burisma (making it PROVEN) with the sole purpose of influencing his father.

    Sorry, but he never hid that he worked for Burisma.

    "with the sole purpose of influencing his father" is complete
    speculation without any corroboration.

    :-)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat Jul 29 17:30:26 2023
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:24:18 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:19, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 11:40:33 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 11:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:37:08 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 10:25, Tommy wrote:

    Furthermore, BooBoo never paid the back taxes himself -
    a lawyer by the name of Kevin Morris did. The question
    is, what is in it for Morris? On top of that, BooBoo
    called that money from Morris a "loan," otherwise it
    would be a gift and he would owe taxes on the gift. What
    are the terms of the loan, how much, how often and what
    interest does BooBoo have to pay Morris? If this isn't
    specified then it is a gift and BooBoo is guilty of
    addition tax laws.
    https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-kevin-morris-rips-bong-as-first-son-visits-la-home/







    https://nypost.com/2022/05/08/hollywood-lawyer-kevin-morris-paid-off-over-2m-of-hunter-bidens-taxes/
    An anonymous source made that claim...

    ...more than two months ago.

    And there's still no substantiation for it.

    BooBoo said that he took out a loan to pay his taxes; WHO
    gave him that loan? And the same thing applies: if that
    "loan" is in reality a gift BooBoo owes taxes on the gift.
    You don't pay taxes on gifts, Sunshine.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html





    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-guilty-plea-agreement-tax-investigation/
    "The two misdemeanor tax charges relate to his willful
    failure to pay taxes for 2017 and 2018. A filing indicates
    Hunter Biden had more than $1.5 million in income each year.
    He has since fully repaid back taxes and fines, including $2
    million reportedly paid to the federal government last year,
    with the help of a loan from his personal attorney."
    Again:

    A month old.

    No source provided.

    Hey Fool, because that was WHEN BooBoo "paid" his taxes (although
    he pay them, Morris did).
    You still haven't provided any proof of that.

    And now the immunity deal is off the table and BooBoo and the
    crooked attorneys are going to have to dream up a new deal. He
    has more tax charges he is facing AND the FARA violation. And
    this IS NOT a "slap on the wrist" offense
    (https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara/recent-cases):
    There was NO "immunity deal".

    When he was getting ready to enter his plea, the judge asked if he
    was getting immunity from other investigations that might result in
    charges and the judge was told "NO".

    "Manafort failed to register under FARA as an agent of the
    Government of Ukraine, the Ukrainian Party of Regions, and former
    Ukrainian President Yanukovych. Manafort was sentenced to 73
    months’ imprisonment, including the statutory maximum 60 months
    for the conspiracy to violate FARA (Manafort is due to serve an
    additional 17 months stemming from his conviction in the Eastern
    District of Virginia)."
    Whataboutism.

    Note that BooBoo was being paid, at least, $83,000 a month by
    Burisma to lobby Papa Lyin' Joe. In reality, he and his firm were
    paid MILLIONS by Burisma:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-shows-firm-took-11-million-2013-2018-rcna29462


    There is no proof that that was actually a true copy of any laptop
    owned by Biden.

    Since you like NBC News now, here's another story they wrote:

    'Trump and his allies say there is evidence of corruption in emails
    and documents allegedly found on a laptop belonging to Democrat Joe
    Biden’s son. They say those and other documents show that Hunter
    Biden used his father’s influence to enrich himself through
    business deals in Ukraine and China, and that his father not only
    facilitated that, but may have benefited financially.

    But the Wall Street Journal and Fox News — among the only news
    organizations that have been given access to key documents — found
    that the emails and other records don’t make that case. Leaving
    aside the many questions about their provenance, the materials
    offered no evidence that Joe Biden played any role in his son’s
    dealings in China, let alone profited from them, both news
    organizations concluded.'

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/here-s-what-happened-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533>


    Hey Fool, it is NOT my duty to provide "proof" of ANYTHING as I am
    NOT a prosecutor - I am just reporting the facts.
    Nope. You're reporting ASSERTIONS as IF they were facts.
    You don't seem to
    grasp the difference. The Lyin' Biden crime family is clearly disintegrating as the facts come out. I think that even you
    acknowledge that BooBoo's laptop is legitimate - which you DENIED for YEARS. BooBoo has gone from untouchable to having to face trial for felonies.
    Sorry, but that's not what I said.

    All we know is that Giuliani handed someone a hard drive he CLAIMED was
    a copy of the drive in a laptop he claimed was Hunter Biden's.

    Hey Fool, they ARE facts. BooBoo DID dodge millions in taxes that he is being prosecuted for. He DID lie on his gun application form that he is also being prosecuted for. He DID commit FARA violations which he SHOULD be prosecuted for. Lyin' Biden DID
    know about his business dealings despite his lies to the contrary.

    This is the BIGEST political scandal EVER for the US which is why they are so desperate to keep Trump out of office.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat Jul 29 17:39:47 2023
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:33:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:24:18 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:19, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 11:40:33 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 11:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:37:08 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 10:25, Tommy wrote:

    Furthermore, BooBoo never paid the back taxes himself
    - a lawyer by the name of Kevin Morris did. The
    question is, what is in it for Morris? On top of
    that, BooBoo called that money from Morris a "loan,"
    otherwise it would be a gift and he would owe taxes
    on the gift. What are the terms of the loan, how
    much, how often and what interest does BooBoo have to
    pay Morris? If this isn't specified then it is a gift
    and BooBoo is guilty of addition tax laws.
    https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-kevin-morris-rips-bong-as-first-son-visits-la-home/









    https://nypost.com/2022/05/08/hollywood-lawyer-kevin-morris-paid-off-over-2m-of-hunter-bidens-taxes/
    An anonymous source made that claim...

    ...more than two months ago.

    And there's still no substantiation for it.

    BooBoo said that he took out a loan to pay his taxes;
    WHO gave him that loan? And the same thing applies: if
    that "loan" is in reality a gift BooBoo owes taxes on the
    gift.
    You don't pay taxes on gifts, Sunshine.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html







    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-guilty-plea-agreement-tax-investigation/
    "The two misdemeanor tax charges relate to his willful
    failure to pay taxes for 2017 and 2018. A filing
    indicates Hunter Biden had more than $1.5 million in
    income each year. He has since fully repaid back taxes
    and fines, including $2 million reportedly paid to the
    federal government last year, with the help of a loan
    from his personal attorney."
    Again:

    A month old.

    No source provided.

    Hey Fool, because that was WHEN BooBoo "paid" his taxes
    (although he pay them, Morris did).
    You still haven't provided any proof of that.

    And now the immunity deal is off the table and BooBoo and
    the crooked attorneys are going to have to dream up a new
    deal. He has more tax charges he is facing AND the FARA
    violation. And this IS NOT a "slap on the wrist" offense
    (https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara/recent-cases):
    There was NO "immunity deal".

    When he was getting ready to enter his plea, the judge asked if
    he was getting immunity from other investigations that might
    result in charges and the judge was told "NO".

    "Manafort failed to register under FARA as an agent of the
    Government of Ukraine, the Ukrainian Party of Regions, and
    former Ukrainian President Yanukovych. Manafort was sentenced
    to 73 months’ imprisonment, including the statutory maximum
    60 months for the conspiracy to violate FARA (Manafort is due
    to serve an additional 17 months stemming from his conviction
    in the Eastern District of Virginia)."
    Whataboutism.

    Note that BooBoo was being paid, at least, $83,000 a month
    by Burisma to lobby Papa Lyin' Joe. In reality, he and his
    firm were paid MILLIONS by Burisma:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-shows-firm-took-11-million-2013-2018-rcna29462




    There is no proof that that was actually a true copy of any laptop
    owned by Biden.

    Since you like NBC News now, here's another story they wrote:

    'Trump and his allies say there is evidence of corruption in
    emails and documents allegedly found on a laptop belonging to
    Democrat Joe Biden’s son. They say those and other documents
    show that Hunter Biden used his father’s influence to enrich
    himself through business deals in Ukraine and China, and that
    his father not only facilitated that, but may have benefited
    financially.

    But the Wall Street Journal and Fox News — among the only news
    organizations that have been given access to key documents —
    found that the emails and other records don’t make that case.
    Leaving aside the many questions about their provenance, the
    materials offered no evidence that Joe Biden played any role in
    his son’s dealings in China, let alone profited from them, both
    news organizations concluded.'

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/here-s-what-happened-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533>




    Hey Fool, it is NOT my duty to provide "proof" of ANYTHING as I am
    NOT a prosecutor - I am just reporting the facts.
    Nope. You're reporting ASSERTIONS as IF they were facts.
    You don't seem to grasp the difference. The Lyin' Biden crime
    family is clearly disintegrating as the facts come out. I think
    that even you acknowledge that BooBoo's laptop is legitimate -
    which you DENIED for YEARS. BooBoo has gone from untouchable to
    having to face trial for felonies.
    Sorry, but that's not what I said.

    All we know is that Giuliani handed someone a hard drive he CLAIMED
    was a copy of the drive in a laptop he claimed was Hunter Biden's.

    Hey Fool, they ARE facts. BooBoo DID dodge millions in taxes that he
    is being prosecuted for. He DID lie on his gun application form that
    he is also being prosecuted for. He DID commit FARA violations which
    he SHOULD be prosecuted for. Lyin' Biden DID know about his business dealings despite his lies to the contrary.
    Sorry, but the FARA thing is NOT a fact. It is an assertion.

    Joe Biden knowing about his business dealings is also an assertion.

    This is the BIGEST political scandal EVER for the US which is why
    they are so desperate to keep Trump out of office.
    Well the 74 felonies for which there really ARE tons of facts (some
    straight from Trump himself) will probably take care of that.

    No Fool, BooBoo ADMITTED to being paid by Burisma (making it PROVEN) with the sole purpose of influencing his father.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun Jul 30 10:28:02 2023
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:52:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:33:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:24:18 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:19, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 11:40:33 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 11:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:37:08 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2023-07-29 10:25, Tommy wrote:

    Furthermore, BooBoo never paid the back taxes himself >>>>>>>>>>> - a lawyer by the name of Kevin Morris did. The
    question is, what is in it for Morris? On top of
    that, BooBoo called that money from Morris a "loan,"
    otherwise it would be a gift and he would owe taxes
    on the gift. What are the terms of the loan, how
    much, how often and what interest does BooBoo have to >>>>>>>>>>> pay Morris? If this isn't specified then it is a gift >>>>>>>>>>> and BooBoo is guilty of addition tax laws.
    https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-kevin-morris-rips-bong-as-first-son-visits-la-home/










    https://nypost.com/2022/05/08/hollywood-lawyer-kevin-morris-paid-off-over-2m-of-hunter-bidens-taxes/
    An anonymous source made that claim...

    ...more than two months ago.

    And there's still no substantiation for it.

    BooBoo said that he took out a loan to pay his taxes;
    WHO gave him that loan? And the same thing applies: if
    that "loan" is in reality a gift BooBoo owes taxes on the >>>>>>>>> gift.
    You don't pay taxes on gifts, Sunshine.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html








    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-guilty-plea-agreement-tax-investigation/
    "The two misdemeanor tax charges relate to his willful
    failure to pay taxes for 2017 and 2018. A filing
    indicates Hunter Biden had more than $1.5 million in
    income each year. He has since fully repaid back taxes
    and fines, including $2 million reportedly paid to the
    federal government last year, with the help of a loan
    from his personal attorney."
    Again:

    A month old.

    No source provided.

    Hey Fool, because that was WHEN BooBoo "paid" his taxes
    (although he pay them, Morris did).
    You still haven't provided any proof of that.

    And now the immunity deal is off the table and BooBoo and
    the crooked attorneys are going to have to dream up a new
    deal. He has more tax charges he is facing AND the FARA
    violation. And this IS NOT a "slap on the wrist" offense
    (https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara/recent-cases):
    There was NO "immunity deal".

    When he was getting ready to enter his plea, the judge asked if >>>>>> he was getting immunity from other investigations that might
    result in charges and the judge was told "NO".

    "Manafort failed to register under FARA as an agent of the
    Government of Ukraine, the Ukrainian Party of Regions, and
    former Ukrainian President Yanukovych. Manafort was sentenced >>>>>>> to 73 months’ imprisonment, including the statutory maximum >>>>>>> 60 months for the conspiracy to violate FARA (Manafort is due >>>>>>> to serve an additional 17 months stemming from his conviction >>>>>>> in the Eastern District of Virginia)."
    Whataboutism.

    Note that BooBoo was being paid, at least, $83,000 a month
    by Burisma to lobby Papa Lyin' Joe. In reality, he and his
    firm were paid MILLIONS by Burisma:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-shows-firm-took-11-million-2013-2018-rcna29462




    There is no proof that that was actually a true copy of any laptop
    owned by Biden.

    Since you like NBC News now, here's another story they wrote:

    'Trump and his allies say there is evidence of corruption in
    emails and documents allegedly found on a laptop belonging to
    Democrat Joe Biden’s son. They say those and other documents
    show that Hunter Biden used his father’s influence to enrich
    himself through business deals in Ukraine and China, and that
    his father not only facilitated that, but may have benefited
    financially.

    But the Wall Street Journal and Fox News — among the only news >>>>>> organizations that have been given access to key documents —
    found that the emails and other records don’t make that case. >>>>>> Leaving aside the many questions about their provenance, the
    materials offered no evidence that Joe Biden played any role in >>>>>> his son’s dealings in China, let alone profited from them, both >>>>>> news organizations concluded.'

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/here-s-what-happened-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533>




    Hey Fool, it is NOT my duty to provide "proof" of ANYTHING as I am >>>>> NOT a prosecutor - I am just reporting the facts.
    Nope. You're reporting ASSERTIONS as IF they were facts.
    You don't seem to grasp the difference. The Lyin' Biden crime
    family is clearly disintegrating as the facts come out. I think
    that even you acknowledge that BooBoo's laptop is legitimate -
    which you DENIED for YEARS. BooBoo has gone from untouchable to
    having to face trial for felonies.
    Sorry, but that's not what I said.

    All we know is that Giuliani handed someone a hard drive he CLAIMED >>>> was a copy of the drive in a laptop he claimed was Hunter Biden's.

    Hey Fool, they ARE facts. BooBoo DID dodge millions in taxes that he
    is being prosecuted for. He DID lie on his gun application form that
    he is also being prosecuted for. He DID commit FARA violations which
    he SHOULD be prosecuted for. Lyin' Biden DID know about his business
    dealings despite his lies to the contrary.
    Sorry, but the FARA thing is NOT a fact. It is an assertion.

    Joe Biden knowing about his business dealings is also an assertion.

    This is the BIGEST political scandal EVER for the US which is why
    they are so desperate to keep Trump out of office.
    Well the 74 felonies for which there really ARE tons of facts (some
    straight from Trump himself) will probably take care of that.

    No Fool, BooBoo ADMITTED to being paid by Burisma (making it PROVEN) with the sole purpose of influencing his father.
    Sorry, but he never hid that he worked for Burisma.

    "with the sole purpose of influencing his father" is complete
    speculation without any corroboration.

    :-)

    What he hid was WHY he worked for Burisma, which was strictly influence peddling. And Lyin' Biden followed thru by getting the Ukrainian prosecutor fired, which he GLOATED about ON AIR!

    And the immunity deal was buried in the Diversion Agreement by the prosecutors: https://abcnews.go.com/US/hunter-biden-plea-agreement/story?id=101718321#:~:text=Prosecutors%20included%20details%20about%20Hunter,of%20facts%20for%20the%20plea

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Tommy on Sun Jul 30 11:22:47 2023
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 1:28:03 PM UTC-4, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:52:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:33:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:24:18 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:19, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 11:40:33 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>> On 2023-07-29 11:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:37:08 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2023-07-29 10:25, Tommy wrote:

    Furthermore, BooBoo never paid the back taxes himself >>>>>>>>>>> - a lawyer by the name of Kevin Morris did. The
    question is, what is in it for Morris? On top of
    that, BooBoo called that money from Morris a "loan," >>>>>>>>>>> otherwise it would be a gift and he would owe taxes >>>>>>>>>>> on the gift. What are the terms of the loan, how
    much, how often and what interest does BooBoo have to >>>>>>>>>>> pay Morris? If this isn't specified then it is a gift >>>>>>>>>>> and BooBoo is guilty of addition tax laws.
    https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-kevin-morris-rips-bong-as-first-son-visits-la-home/










    https://nypost.com/2022/05/08/hollywood-lawyer-kevin-morris-paid-off-over-2m-of-hunter-bidens-taxes/
    An anonymous source made that claim...

    ...more than two months ago.

    And there's still no substantiation for it.

    BooBoo said that he took out a loan to pay his taxes;
    WHO gave him that loan? And the same thing applies: if
    that "loan" is in reality a gift BooBoo owes taxes on the >>>>>>>>> gift.
    You don't pay taxes on gifts, Sunshine.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html








    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-guilty-plea-agreement-tax-investigation/
    "The two misdemeanor tax charges relate to his willful
    failure to pay taxes for 2017 and 2018. A filing
    indicates Hunter Biden had more than $1.5 million in
    income each year. He has since fully repaid back taxes
    and fines, including $2 million reportedly paid to the
    federal government last year, with the help of a loan
    from his personal attorney."
    Again:

    A month old.

    No source provided.

    Hey Fool, because that was WHEN BooBoo "paid" his taxes
    (although he pay them, Morris did).
    You still haven't provided any proof of that.

    And now the immunity deal is off the table and BooBoo and
    the crooked attorneys are going to have to dream up a new
    deal. He has more tax charges he is facing AND the FARA
    violation. And this IS NOT a "slap on the wrist" offense
    (https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara/recent-cases):
    There was NO "immunity deal".

    When he was getting ready to enter his plea, the judge asked if >>>>>> he was getting immunity from other investigations that might
    result in charges and the judge was told "NO".

    "Manafort failed to register under FARA as an agent of the
    Government of Ukraine, the Ukrainian Party of Regions, and
    former Ukrainian President Yanukovych. Manafort was sentenced >>>>>>> to 73 months’ imprisonment, including the statutory maximum >>>>>>> 60 months for the conspiracy to violate FARA (Manafort is due >>>>>>> to serve an additional 17 months stemming from his conviction >>>>>>> in the Eastern District of Virginia)."
    Whataboutism.

    Note that BooBoo was being paid, at least, $83,000 a month
    by Burisma to lobby Papa Lyin' Joe. In reality, he and his
    firm were paid MILLIONS by Burisma:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-shows-firm-took-11-million-2013-2018-rcna29462




    There is no proof that that was actually a true copy of any laptop >>>>>> owned by Biden.

    Since you like NBC News now, here's another story they wrote: >>>>>>
    'Trump and his allies say there is evidence of corruption in
    emails and documents allegedly found on a laptop belonging to >>>>>> Democrat Joe Biden’s son. They say those and other documents >>>>>> show that Hunter Biden used his father’s influence to enrich >>>>>> himself through business deals in Ukraine and China, and that >>>>>> his father not only facilitated that, but may have benefited
    financially.

    But the Wall Street Journal and Fox News — among the only news >>>>>> organizations that have been given access to key documents — >>>>>> found that the emails and other records don’t make that case. >>>>>> Leaving aside the many questions about their provenance, the
    materials offered no evidence that Joe Biden played any role in >>>>>> his son’s dealings in China, let alone profited from them, both >>>>>> news organizations concluded.'

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/here-s-what-happened-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533>




    Hey Fool, it is NOT my duty to provide "proof" of ANYTHING as I am >>>>> NOT a prosecutor - I am just reporting the facts.
    Nope. You're reporting ASSERTIONS as IF they were facts.
    You don't seem to grasp the difference. The Lyin' Biden crime
    family is clearly disintegrating as the facts come out. I think >>>>> that even you acknowledge that BooBoo's laptop is legitimate -
    which you DENIED for YEARS. BooBoo has gone from untouchable to >>>>> having to face trial for felonies.
    Sorry, but that's not what I said.

    All we know is that Giuliani handed someone a hard drive he CLAIMED >>>> was a copy of the drive in a laptop he claimed was Hunter Biden's. >>>
    Hey Fool, they ARE facts. BooBoo DID dodge millions in taxes that he >>> is being prosecuted for. He DID lie on his gun application form that >>> he is also being prosecuted for. He DID commit FARA violations which >>> he SHOULD be prosecuted for. Lyin' Biden DID know about his business >>> dealings despite his lies to the contrary.
    Sorry, but the FARA thing is NOT a fact. It is an assertion.

    Joe Biden knowing about his business dealings is also an assertion.

    This is the BIGEST political scandal EVER for the US which is why
    they are so desperate to keep Trump out of office.
    Well the 74 felonies for which there really ARE tons of facts (some
    straight from Trump himself) will probably take care of that.

    No Fool, BooBoo ADMITTED to being paid by Burisma (making it PROVEN) with the sole purpose of influencing his father.
    Sorry, but he never hid that he worked for Burisma.

    "with the sole purpose of influencing his father" is complete
    speculation without any corroboration.

    :-)

    What he hid was WHY he worked for Burisma, which was strictly influence peddling.

    That's merely your speculation, Tommy. Got any substantiation for it?

    And Lyin' Biden followed thru by getting the Ukrainian prosecutor fired, which he GLOATED about ON AIR!

    Are you referring to the one who was a Russian front man? Because Pshonka disappeared
    after the 2014 Euromaidan: reportedly fled to Russia & now has Russian citizenship.


    And the immunity deal was buried in the Diversion Agreement by the prosecutors:
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/hunter-biden-plea-agreement/story?id=101718321#:~:text=Prosecutors%20included%20details%20about%20Hunter,of%20facts%20for%20the%20plea

    Nah, the Judge did their due diligence and "kicked the tires" on the terms,
    and found this section to have been overly vague. As such, the agreement wasn't formalized and the two teams told to go back to work things out.

    -hh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Sun Jul 30 16:19:10 2023
    On 2023-07-30 10:28, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:52:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:33:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:24:18 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:19, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 11:40:33 AM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 11:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:37:08 AM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 10:25, Tommy wrote:

    Furthermore, BooBoo never paid the back taxes
    himself - a lawyer by the name of Kevin
    Morris did. The question is, what is in it
    for Morris? On top of that, BooBoo called
    that money from Morris a "loan," otherwise it
    would be a gift and he would owe taxes on the
    gift. What are the terms of the loan, how
    much, how often and what interest does BooBoo
    have to pay Morris? If this isn't specified
    then it is a gift and BooBoo is guilty of
    addition tax laws.
    https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-kevin-morris-rips-bong-as-first-son-visits-la-home/











    https://nypost.com/2022/05/08/hollywood-lawyer-kevin-morris-paid-off-over-2m-of-hunter-bidens-taxes/
    An anonymous source made that claim...

    ...more than two months ago.

    And there's still no substantiation for it.

    BooBoo said that he took out a loan to pay his
    taxes; WHO gave him that loan? And the same thing
    applies: if that "loan" is in reality a gift
    BooBoo owes taxes on the gift.
    You don't pay taxes on gifts, Sunshine.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html









    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-guilty-plea-agreement-tax-investigation/
    "The two misdemeanor tax charges relate to his
    willful failure to pay taxes for 2017 and 2018. A
    filing indicates Hunter Biden had more than $1.5
    million in income each year. He has since fully
    repaid back taxes and fines, including $2 million
    reportedly paid to the federal government last
    year, with the help of a loan from his personal
    attorney."
    Again:

    A month old.

    No source provided.

    Hey Fool, because that was WHEN BooBoo "paid" his
    taxes (although he pay them, Morris did).
    You still haven't provided any proof of that.

    And now the immunity deal is off the table and BooBoo
    and the crooked attorneys are going to have to dream
    up a new deal. He has more tax charges he is facing
    AND the FARA violation. And this IS NOT a "slap on
    the wrist" offense
    (https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara/recent-cases):
    There was NO "immunity deal".

    When he was getting ready to enter his plea, the judge
    asked if he was getting immunity from other
    investigations that might result in charges and the
    judge was told "NO".

    "Manafort failed to register under FARA as an agent
    of the Government of Ukraine, the Ukrainian Party of
    Regions, and former Ukrainian President Yanukovych.
    Manafort was sentenced to 73 months’ imprisonment,
    including the statutory maximum 60 months for the
    conspiracy to violate FARA (Manafort is due to serve
    an additional 17 months stemming from his conviction
    in the Eastern District of Virginia)."
    Whataboutism.

    Note that BooBoo was being paid, at least, $83,000 a
    month by Burisma to lobby Papa Lyin' Joe. In reality,
    he and his firm were paid MILLIONS by Burisma:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-shows-firm-took-11-million-2013-2018-rcna29462






    There is no proof that that was actually a true copy of any laptop
    owned by Biden.

    Since you like NBC News now, here's another story they
    wrote:

    'Trump and his allies say there is evidence of
    corruption in emails and documents allegedly found on a
    laptop belonging to Democrat Joe Biden’s son. They say
    those and other documents show that Hunter Biden used
    his father’s influence to enrich himself through
    business deals in Ukraine and China, and that his
    father not only facilitated that, but may have
    benefited financially.

    But the Wall Street Journal and Fox News — among the
    only news organizations that have been given access to
    key documents — found that the emails and other records
    don’t make that case. Leaving aside the many questions
    about their provenance, the materials offered no
    evidence that Joe Biden played any role in his son’s
    dealings in China, let alone profited from them, both
    news organizations concluded.'

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/here-s-what-happened-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533>






    Hey Fool, it is NOT my duty to provide "proof" of ANYTHING as I am
    NOT a prosecutor - I am just reporting the facts.
    Nope. You're reporting ASSERTIONS as IF they were facts.
    You don't seem to grasp the difference. The Lyin' Biden
    crime family is clearly disintegrating as the facts come
    out. I think that even you acknowledge that BooBoo's
    laptop is legitimate - which you DENIED for YEARS. BooBoo
    has gone from untouchable to having to face trial for
    felonies.
    Sorry, but that's not what I said.

    All we know is that Giuliani handed someone a hard drive he
    CLAIMED was a copy of the drive in a laptop he claimed was
    Hunter Biden's.

    Hey Fool, they ARE facts. BooBoo DID dodge millions in taxes
    that he is being prosecuted for. He DID lie on his gun
    application form that he is also being prosecuted for. He DID
    commit FARA violations which he SHOULD be prosecuted for.
    Lyin' Biden DID know about his business dealings despite his
    lies to the contrary.
    Sorry, but the FARA thing is NOT a fact. It is an assertion.

    Joe Biden knowing about his business dealings is also an
    assertion.

    This is the BIGEST political scandal EVER for the US which is
    why they are so desperate to keep Trump out of office.
    Well the 74 felonies for which there really ARE tons of facts
    (some straight from Trump himself) will probably take care of
    that.

    No Fool, BooBoo ADMITTED to being paid by Burisma (making it
    PROVEN) with the sole purpose of influencing his father.
    Sorry, but he never hid that he worked for Burisma.

    "with the sole purpose of influencing his father" is complete
    speculation without any corroboration.

    :-)

    What he hid was WHY he worked for Burisma, which was strictly
    influence peddling.

    You have literally no evidence that that is "WHY" he worked for Burisma

    And Lyin' Biden followed thru by getting the
    Ukrainian prosecutor fired, which he GLOATED about ON AIR!

    Getting Shokin fired was US policy...

    ...supported by the Republicans...

    ...because (among other things)...

    ...he was NOT investigating Burisma.


    And the immunity deal was buried in the Diversion Agreement by the prosecutors: https://abcnews.go.com/US/hunter-biden-plea-agreement/story?id=101718321#:~:text=Prosecutors%20included%20details%20about%20Hunter,of%20facts%20for%20the%20plea

    'But as things dragged on, and Noreika quizzed the lawyers from both
    sides about the particulars of the tax deal, she sussed out a
    disagreement between the parties on a critical question: Did the deal
    protect Hunter from possibly facing additional charges for illegal
    foreign lobbying, known as FARA (The Foreign Agents Registration Act)?
    The Justice Department said no, but Hunter Biden’s team thought yes.'

    The diversion agreement only pertains to gun-related charges:

    'The United States agrees not to criminally prosecute Biden, outside of
    the terms of this Agreement, for any federal crimes encompassed by the
    attached Statement of Facts (Attachment A) and the Statement of Facts
    attached as Exhibit 1'

    <https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23888015/diversion-agreement-attachment-a_1-scrubbed.pdf>

    There is literally nothing in the statement of facts concerning any
    charges under FARA or anything at all except the gun charge.





    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Sun Jul 30 21:14:53 2023
    On 2023-07-30 21:12, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 4:19:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-30 10:28, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:52:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:33:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:24:18 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:19, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 11:40:33 AM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 11:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:37:08 AM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 10:25, Tommy wrote:

    Furthermore, BooBoo never paid the back taxes
    himself - a lawyer by the name of Kevin
    Morris did. The question is, what is in it
    for Morris? On top of that, BooBoo called
    that money from Morris a "loan," otherwise it
    would be a gift and he would owe taxes on the
    gift. What are the terms of the loan, how
    much, how often and what interest does BooBoo
    have to pay Morris? If this isn't specified
    then it is a gift and BooBoo is guilty of
    addition tax laws.
    https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-kevin-morris-rips-bong-as-first-son-visits-la-home/












    https://nypost.com/2022/05/08/hollywood-lawyer-kevin-morris-paid-off-over-2m-of-hunter-bidens-taxes/
    An anonymous source made that claim...

    ...more than two months ago.

    And there's still no substantiation for it.

    BooBoo said that he took out a loan to pay his
    taxes; WHO gave him that loan? And the same thing
    applies: if that "loan" is in reality a gift
    BooBoo owes taxes on the gift.
    You don't pay taxes on gifts, Sunshine.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html










    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-guilty-plea-agreement-tax-investigation/
    "The two misdemeanor tax charges relate to his
    willful failure to pay taxes for 2017 and 2018. A
    filing indicates Hunter Biden had more than $1.5
    million in income each year. He has since fully
    repaid back taxes and fines, including $2 million
    reportedly paid to the federal government last
    year, with the help of a loan from his personal
    attorney."
    Again:

    A month old.

    No source provided.

    Hey Fool, because that was WHEN BooBoo "paid" his
    taxes (although he pay them, Morris did).
    You still haven't provided any proof of that.

    And now the immunity deal is off the table and BooBoo
    and the crooked attorneys are going to have to dream
    up a new deal. He has more tax charges he is facing
    AND the FARA violation. And this IS NOT a "slap on
    the wrist" offense
    (https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara/recent-cases):
    There was NO "immunity deal".

    When he was getting ready to enter his plea, the judge
    asked if he was getting immunity from other
    investigations that might result in charges and the
    judge was told "NO".

    "Manafort failed to register under FARA as an agent
    of the Government of Ukraine, the Ukrainian Party of
    Regions, and former Ukrainian President Yanukovych.
    Manafort was sentenced to 73 months’ imprisonment,
    including the statutory maximum 60 months for the
    conspiracy to violate FARA (Manafort is due to serve
    an additional 17 months stemming from his conviction
    in the Eastern District of Virginia)."
    Whataboutism.

    Note that BooBoo was being paid, at least, $83,000 a
    month by Burisma to lobby Papa Lyin' Joe. In reality,
    he and his firm were paid MILLIONS by Burisma:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-shows-firm-took-11-million-2013-2018-rcna29462






    There is no proof that that was actually a true copy of any laptop >>>>>>>>>> owned by Biden.

    Since you like NBC News now, here's another story they
    wrote:

    'Trump and his allies say there is evidence of
    corruption in emails and documents allegedly found on a
    laptop belonging to Democrat Joe Biden’s son. They say
    those and other documents show that Hunter Biden used
    his father’s influence to enrich himself through
    business deals in Ukraine and China, and that his
    father not only facilitated that, but may have
    benefited financially.

    But the Wall Street Journal and Fox News — among the
    only news organizations that have been given access to
    key documents — found that the emails and other records
    don’t make that case. Leaving aside the many questions
    about their provenance, the materials offered no
    evidence that Joe Biden played any role in his son’s
    dealings in China, let alone profited from them, both
    news organizations concluded.'

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/here-s-what-happened-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533>






    Hey Fool, it is NOT my duty to provide "proof" of ANYTHING as I am
    NOT a prosecutor - I am just reporting the facts.
    Nope. You're reporting ASSERTIONS as IF they were facts.
    You don't seem to grasp the difference. The Lyin' Biden
    crime family is clearly disintegrating as the facts come
    out. I think that even you acknowledge that BooBoo's
    laptop is legitimate - which you DENIED for YEARS. BooBoo
    has gone from untouchable to having to face trial for
    felonies.
    Sorry, but that's not what I said.

    All we know is that Giuliani handed someone a hard drive he
    CLAIMED was a copy of the drive in a laptop he claimed was
    Hunter Biden's.

    Hey Fool, they ARE facts. BooBoo DID dodge millions in taxes
    that he is being prosecuted for. He DID lie on his gun
    application form that he is also being prosecuted for. He DID
    commit FARA violations which he SHOULD be prosecuted for.
    Lyin' Biden DID know about his business dealings despite his
    lies to the contrary.
    Sorry, but the FARA thing is NOT a fact. It is an assertion.

    Joe Biden knowing about his business dealings is also an
    assertion.

    This is the BIGEST political scandal EVER for the US which is
    why they are so desperate to keep Trump out of office.
    Well the 74 felonies for which there really ARE tons of facts
    (some straight from Trump himself) will probably take care of
    that.

    No Fool, BooBoo ADMITTED to being paid by Burisma (making it
    PROVEN) with the sole purpose of influencing his father.
    Sorry, but he never hid that he worked for Burisma.

    "with the sole purpose of influencing his father" is complete
    speculation without any corroboration.

    :-)

    What he hid was WHY he worked for Burisma, which was strictly
    influence peddling.
    You have literally no evidence that that is "WHY" he worked for Burisma
    And Lyin' Biden followed thru by getting the
    Ukrainian prosecutor fired, which he GLOATED about ON AIR!
    Getting Shokin fired was US policy...

    ...supported by the Republicans...

    ...because (among other things)...

    ...he was NOT investigating Burisma.

    And the immunity deal was buried in the Diversion Agreement by the
    prosecutors:
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/hunter-biden-plea-agreement/story?id=101718321#:~:text=Prosecutors%20included%20details%20about%20Hunter,of%20facts%20for%20the%20plea
    'But as things dragged on, and Noreika quizzed the lawyers from both
    sides about the particulars of the tax deal, she sussed out a
    disagreement between the parties on a critical question: Did the deal
    protect Hunter from possibly facing additional charges for illegal
    foreign lobbying, known as FARA (The Foreign Agents Registration Act)?
    The Justice Department said no, but Hunter Biden’s team thought yes.'

    The diversion agreement only pertains to gun-related charges:

    'The United States agrees not to criminally prosecute Biden, outside of
    the terms of this Agreement, for any federal crimes encompassed by the
    attached Statement of Facts (Attachment A) and the Statement of Facts
    attached as Exhibit 1'

    <https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23888015/diversion-agreement-attachment-a_1-scrubbed.pdf>

    There is literally nothing in the statement of facts concerning any
    charges under FARA or anything at all except the gun charge.





    How is it that you are SO consistenly wrong on the facts, Fool?:

    "the much-cited Paragraph 15 -- which would include "any federal crimes encompassed" in the statement of facts for the plea agreement."


    "encompassed in the Statement of Facts".

    Show us anything in the "Statement of Facts" that doesn't pertain to the
    gun charge.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun Jul 30 21:12:10 2023
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 4:19:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-30 10:28, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:52:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:33:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:24:18 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:19, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 11:40:33 AM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 11:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:37:08 AM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 10:25, Tommy wrote:

    Furthermore, BooBoo never paid the back taxes
    himself - a lawyer by the name of Kevin
    Morris did. The question is, what is in it
    for Morris? On top of that, BooBoo called
    that money from Morris a "loan," otherwise it
    would be a gift and he would owe taxes on the
    gift. What are the terms of the loan, how
    much, how often and what interest does BooBoo
    have to pay Morris? If this isn't specified
    then it is a gift and BooBoo is guilty of
    addition tax laws.
    https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-kevin-morris-rips-bong-as-first-son-visits-la-home/











    https://nypost.com/2022/05/08/hollywood-lawyer-kevin-morris-paid-off-over-2m-of-hunter-bidens-taxes/
    An anonymous source made that claim...

    ...more than two months ago.

    And there's still no substantiation for it.

    BooBoo said that he took out a loan to pay his
    taxes; WHO gave him that loan? And the same thing
    applies: if that "loan" is in reality a gift
    BooBoo owes taxes on the gift.
    You don't pay taxes on gifts, Sunshine.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html









    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-guilty-plea-agreement-tax-investigation/
    "The two misdemeanor tax charges relate to his
    willful failure to pay taxes for 2017 and 2018. A
    filing indicates Hunter Biden had more than $1.5
    million in income each year. He has since fully
    repaid back taxes and fines, including $2 million
    reportedly paid to the federal government last
    year, with the help of a loan from his personal
    attorney."
    Again:

    A month old.

    No source provided.

    Hey Fool, because that was WHEN BooBoo "paid" his
    taxes (although he pay them, Morris did).
    You still haven't provided any proof of that.

    And now the immunity deal is off the table and BooBoo
    and the crooked attorneys are going to have to dream
    up a new deal. He has more tax charges he is facing
    AND the FARA violation. And this IS NOT a "slap on
    the wrist" offense
    (https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara/recent-cases):
    There was NO "immunity deal".

    When he was getting ready to enter his plea, the judge
    asked if he was getting immunity from other
    investigations that might result in charges and the
    judge was told "NO".

    "Manafort failed to register under FARA as an agent
    of the Government of Ukraine, the Ukrainian Party of
    Regions, and former Ukrainian President Yanukovych.
    Manafort was sentenced to 73 months’ imprisonment,
    including the statutory maximum 60 months for the
    conspiracy to violate FARA (Manafort is due to serve
    an additional 17 months stemming from his conviction
    in the Eastern District of Virginia)."
    Whataboutism.

    Note that BooBoo was being paid, at least, $83,000 a
    month by Burisma to lobby Papa Lyin' Joe. In reality,
    he and his firm were paid MILLIONS by Burisma:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-shows-firm-took-11-million-2013-2018-rcna29462






    There is no proof that that was actually a true copy of any laptop
    owned by Biden.

    Since you like NBC News now, here's another story they
    wrote:

    'Trump and his allies say there is evidence of
    corruption in emails and documents allegedly found on a
    laptop belonging to Democrat Joe Biden’s son. They say
    those and other documents show that Hunter Biden used
    his father’s influence to enrich himself through
    business deals in Ukraine and China, and that his
    father not only facilitated that, but may have
    benefited financially.

    But the Wall Street Journal and Fox News — among the
    only news organizations that have been given access to
    key documents — found that the emails and other records
    don’t make that case. Leaving aside the many questions
    about their provenance, the materials offered no
    evidence that Joe Biden played any role in his son’s
    dealings in China, let alone profited from them, both
    news organizations concluded.'

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/here-s-what-happened-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533>






    Hey Fool, it is NOT my duty to provide "proof" of ANYTHING as I am
    NOT a prosecutor - I am just reporting the facts.
    Nope. You're reporting ASSERTIONS as IF they were facts.
    You don't seem to grasp the difference. The Lyin' Biden
    crime family is clearly disintegrating as the facts come
    out. I think that even you acknowledge that BooBoo's
    laptop is legitimate - which you DENIED for YEARS. BooBoo
    has gone from untouchable to having to face trial for
    felonies.
    Sorry, but that's not what I said.

    All we know is that Giuliani handed someone a hard drive he
    CLAIMED was a copy of the drive in a laptop he claimed was
    Hunter Biden's.

    Hey Fool, they ARE facts. BooBoo DID dodge millions in taxes
    that he is being prosecuted for. He DID lie on his gun
    application form that he is also being prosecuted for. He DID
    commit FARA violations which he SHOULD be prosecuted for.
    Lyin' Biden DID know about his business dealings despite his
    lies to the contrary.
    Sorry, but the FARA thing is NOT a fact. It is an assertion.

    Joe Biden knowing about his business dealings is also an
    assertion.

    This is the BIGEST political scandal EVER for the US which is
    why they are so desperate to keep Trump out of office.
    Well the 74 felonies for which there really ARE tons of facts
    (some straight from Trump himself) will probably take care of
    that.

    No Fool, BooBoo ADMITTED to being paid by Burisma (making it
    PROVEN) with the sole purpose of influencing his father.
    Sorry, but he never hid that he worked for Burisma.

    "with the sole purpose of influencing his father" is complete
    speculation without any corroboration.

    :-)

    What he hid was WHY he worked for Burisma, which was strictly
    influence peddling.
    You have literally no evidence that that is "WHY" he worked for Burisma
    And Lyin' Biden followed thru by getting the
    Ukrainian prosecutor fired, which he GLOATED about ON AIR!
    Getting Shokin fired was US policy...

    ...supported by the Republicans...

    ...because (among other things)...

    ...he was NOT investigating Burisma.

    And the immunity deal was buried in the Diversion Agreement by the prosecutors: https://abcnews.go.com/US/hunter-biden-plea-agreement/story?id=101718321#:~:text=Prosecutors%20included%20details%20about%20Hunter,of%20facts%20for%20the%20plea
    'But as things dragged on, and Noreika quizzed the lawyers from both
    sides about the particulars of the tax deal, she sussed out a
    disagreement between the parties on a critical question: Did the deal protect Hunter from possibly facing additional charges for illegal
    foreign lobbying, known as FARA (The Foreign Agents Registration Act)?
    The Justice Department said no, but Hunter Biden’s team thought yes.'

    The diversion agreement only pertains to gun-related charges:

    'The United States agrees not to criminally prosecute Biden, outside of
    the terms of this Agreement, for any federal crimes encompassed by the attached Statement of Facts (Attachment A) and the Statement of Facts attached as Exhibit 1'

    <https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23888015/diversion-agreement-attachment-a_1-scrubbed.pdf>

    There is literally nothing in the statement of facts concerning any
    charges under FARA or anything at all except the gun charge.





    How is it that you are SO consistenly wrong on the facts, Fool?:

    "the much-cited Paragraph 15 -- which would include "any federal crimes encompassed" in the statement of facts for the plea agreement."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun Jul 30 21:17:41 2023
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 9:15:02 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-30 21:12, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 4:19:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-30 10:28, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:52:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:33:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:24:18 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2023-07-29 17:19, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 11:40:33 AM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 11:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:37:08 AM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 10:25, Tommy wrote:

    Furthermore, BooBoo never paid the back taxes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> himself - a lawyer by the name of Kevin
    Morris did. The question is, what is in it
    for Morris? On top of that, BooBoo called
    that money from Morris a "loan," otherwise it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be a gift and he would owe taxes on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gift. What are the terms of the loan, how
    much, how often and what interest does BooBoo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to pay Morris? If this isn't specified
    then it is a gift and BooBoo is guilty of
    addition tax laws.
    https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-kevin-morris-rips-bong-as-first-son-visits-la-home/












    https://nypost.com/2022/05/08/hollywood-lawyer-kevin-morris-paid-off-over-2m-of-hunter-bidens-taxes/
    An anonymous source made that claim...

    ...more than two months ago.

    And there's still no substantiation for it.

    BooBoo said that he took out a loan to pay his
    taxes; WHO gave him that loan? And the same thing >>>>>>>>>>>>> applies: if that "loan" is in reality a gift
    BooBoo owes taxes on the gift.
    You don't pay taxes on gifts, Sunshine.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html










    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-guilty-plea-agreement-tax-investigation/
    "The two misdemeanor tax charges relate to his
    willful failure to pay taxes for 2017 and 2018. A >>>>>>>>>>>>> filing indicates Hunter Biden had more than $1.5
    million in income each year. He has since fully
    repaid back taxes and fines, including $2 million >>>>>>>>>>>>> reportedly paid to the federal government last
    year, with the help of a loan from his personal
    attorney."
    Again:

    A month old.

    No source provided.

    Hey Fool, because that was WHEN BooBoo "paid" his
    taxes (although he pay them, Morris did).
    You still haven't provided any proof of that.

    And now the immunity deal is off the table and BooBoo >>>>>>>>>>> and the crooked attorneys are going to have to dream
    up a new deal. He has more tax charges he is facing
    AND the FARA violation. And this IS NOT a "slap on
    the wrist" offense
    (https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara/recent-cases):
    There was NO "immunity deal".

    When he was getting ready to enter his plea, the judge
    asked if he was getting immunity from other
    investigations that might result in charges and the
    judge was told "NO".

    "Manafort failed to register under FARA as an agent
    of the Government of Ukraine, the Ukrainian Party of
    Regions, and former Ukrainian President Yanukovych.
    Manafort was sentenced to 73 months’ imprisonment,
    including the statutory maximum 60 months for the
    conspiracy to violate FARA (Manafort is due to serve
    an additional 17 months stemming from his conviction
    in the Eastern District of Virginia)."
    Whataboutism.

    Note that BooBoo was being paid, at least, $83,000 a
    month by Burisma to lobby Papa Lyin' Joe. In reality, >>>>>>>>>>> he and his firm were paid MILLIONS by Burisma:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-shows-firm-took-11-million-2013-2018-rcna29462






    There is no proof that that was actually a true copy of any laptop >>>>>>>>>> owned by Biden.

    Since you like NBC News now, here's another story they
    wrote:

    'Trump and his allies say there is evidence of
    corruption in emails and documents allegedly found on a >>>>>>>>>> laptop belonging to Democrat Joe Biden’s son. They say >>>>>>>>>> those and other documents show that Hunter Biden used
    his father’s influence to enrich himself through
    business deals in Ukraine and China, and that his
    father not only facilitated that, but may have
    benefited financially.

    But the Wall Street Journal and Fox News — among the
    only news organizations that have been given access to
    key documents — found that the emails and other records >>>>>>>>>> don’t make that case. Leaving aside the many questions >>>>>>>>>> about their provenance, the materials offered no
    evidence that Joe Biden played any role in his son’s
    dealings in China, let alone profited from them, both
    news organizations concluded.'

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/here-s-what-happened-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533>






    Hey Fool, it is NOT my duty to provide "proof" of ANYTHING as I am >>>>>>>>> NOT a prosecutor - I am just reporting the facts.
    Nope. You're reporting ASSERTIONS as IF they were facts.
    You don't seem to grasp the difference. The Lyin' Biden
    crime family is clearly disintegrating as the facts come
    out. I think that even you acknowledge that BooBoo's
    laptop is legitimate - which you DENIED for YEARS. BooBoo >>>>>>>>> has gone from untouchable to having to face trial for
    felonies.
    Sorry, but that's not what I said.

    All we know is that Giuliani handed someone a hard drive he >>>>>>>> CLAIMED was a copy of the drive in a laptop he claimed was
    Hunter Biden's.

    Hey Fool, they ARE facts. BooBoo DID dodge millions in taxes
    that he is being prosecuted for. He DID lie on his gun
    application form that he is also being prosecuted for. He DID >>>>>>> commit FARA violations which he SHOULD be prosecuted for.
    Lyin' Biden DID know about his business dealings despite his
    lies to the contrary.
    Sorry, but the FARA thing is NOT a fact. It is an assertion.

    Joe Biden knowing about his business dealings is also an
    assertion.

    This is the BIGEST political scandal EVER for the US which is >>>>>>> why they are so desperate to keep Trump out of office.
    Well the 74 felonies for which there really ARE tons of facts
    (some straight from Trump himself) will probably take care of
    that.

    No Fool, BooBoo ADMITTED to being paid by Burisma (making it
    PROVEN) with the sole purpose of influencing his father.
    Sorry, but he never hid that he worked for Burisma.

    "with the sole purpose of influencing his father" is complete
    speculation without any corroboration.

    :-)

    What he hid was WHY he worked for Burisma, which was strictly
    influence peddling.
    You have literally no evidence that that is "WHY" he worked for Burisma >>> And Lyin' Biden followed thru by getting the
    Ukrainian prosecutor fired, which he GLOATED about ON AIR!
    Getting Shokin fired was US policy...

    ...supported by the Republicans...

    ...because (among other things)...

    ...he was NOT investigating Burisma.

    And the immunity deal was buried in the Diversion Agreement by the
    prosecutors:
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/hunter-biden-plea-agreement/story?id=101718321#:~:text=Prosecutors%20included%20details%20about%20Hunter,of%20facts%20for%20the%20plea
    'But as things dragged on, and Noreika quizzed the lawyers from both
    sides about the particulars of the tax deal, she sussed out a
    disagreement between the parties on a critical question: Did the deal
    protect Hunter from possibly facing additional charges for illegal
    foreign lobbying, known as FARA (The Foreign Agents Registration Act)?
    The Justice Department said no, but Hunter Biden’s team thought yes.' >>
    The diversion agreement only pertains to gun-related charges:

    'The United States agrees not to criminally prosecute Biden, outside of >> the terms of this Agreement, for any federal crimes encompassed by the
    attached Statement of Facts (Attachment A) and the Statement of Facts
    attached as Exhibit 1'

    <https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23888015/diversion-agreement-attachment-a_1-scrubbed.pdf>

    There is literally nothing in the statement of facts concerning any
    charges under FARA or anything at all except the gun charge.





    How is it that you are SO consistenly wrong on the facts, Fool?:

    "the much-cited Paragraph 15 -- which would include "any federal crimes encompassed" in the statement of facts for the plea agreement."

    "encompassed in the Statement of Facts".

    Show us anything in the "Statement of Facts" that doesn't pertain to the
    gun charge.

    What part of "any federal crimes encompassed" don't you understand?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun Jul 30 21:16:15 2023
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 4:19:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-30 10:28, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:52:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:33:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:24:18 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:19, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 11:40:33 AM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 11:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:37:08 AM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 10:25, Tommy wrote:

    Furthermore, BooBoo never paid the back taxes
    himself - a lawyer by the name of Kevin
    Morris did. The question is, what is in it
    for Morris? On top of that, BooBoo called
    that money from Morris a "loan," otherwise it
    would be a gift and he would owe taxes on the
    gift. What are the terms of the loan, how
    much, how often and what interest does BooBoo
    have to pay Morris? If this isn't specified
    then it is a gift and BooBoo is guilty of
    addition tax laws.
    https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-kevin-morris-rips-bong-as-first-son-visits-la-home/











    https://nypost.com/2022/05/08/hollywood-lawyer-kevin-morris-paid-off-over-2m-of-hunter-bidens-taxes/
    An anonymous source made that claim...

    ...more than two months ago.

    And there's still no substantiation for it.

    BooBoo said that he took out a loan to pay his
    taxes; WHO gave him that loan? And the same thing
    applies: if that "loan" is in reality a gift
    BooBoo owes taxes on the gift.
    You don't pay taxes on gifts, Sunshine.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html









    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-guilty-plea-agreement-tax-investigation/
    "The two misdemeanor tax charges relate to his
    willful failure to pay taxes for 2017 and 2018. A
    filing indicates Hunter Biden had more than $1.5
    million in income each year. He has since fully
    repaid back taxes and fines, including $2 million
    reportedly paid to the federal government last
    year, with the help of a loan from his personal
    attorney."
    Again:

    A month old.

    No source provided.

    Hey Fool, because that was WHEN BooBoo "paid" his
    taxes (although he pay them, Morris did).
    You still haven't provided any proof of that.

    And now the immunity deal is off the table and BooBoo
    and the crooked attorneys are going to have to dream
    up a new deal. He has more tax charges he is facing
    AND the FARA violation. And this IS NOT a "slap on
    the wrist" offense
    (https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara/recent-cases):
    There was NO "immunity deal".

    When he was getting ready to enter his plea, the judge
    asked if he was getting immunity from other
    investigations that might result in charges and the
    judge was told "NO".

    "Manafort failed to register under FARA as an agent
    of the Government of Ukraine, the Ukrainian Party of
    Regions, and former Ukrainian President Yanukovych.
    Manafort was sentenced to 73 months’ imprisonment,
    including the statutory maximum 60 months for the
    conspiracy to violate FARA (Manafort is due to serve
    an additional 17 months stemming from his conviction
    in the Eastern District of Virginia)."
    Whataboutism.

    Note that BooBoo was being paid, at least, $83,000 a
    month by Burisma to lobby Papa Lyin' Joe. In reality,
    he and his firm were paid MILLIONS by Burisma:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-shows-firm-took-11-million-2013-2018-rcna29462






    There is no proof that that was actually a true copy of any laptop
    owned by Biden.

    Since you like NBC News now, here's another story they
    wrote:

    'Trump and his allies say there is evidence of
    corruption in emails and documents allegedly found on a
    laptop belonging to Democrat Joe Biden’s son. They say
    those and other documents show that Hunter Biden used
    his father’s influence to enrich himself through
    business deals in Ukraine and China, and that his
    father not only facilitated that, but may have
    benefited financially.

    But the Wall Street Journal and Fox News — among the
    only news organizations that have been given access to
    key documents — found that the emails and other records
    don’t make that case. Leaving aside the many questions
    about their provenance, the materials offered no
    evidence that Joe Biden played any role in his son’s
    dealings in China, let alone profited from them, both
    news organizations concluded.'

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/here-s-what-happened-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533>






    Hey Fool, it is NOT my duty to provide "proof" of ANYTHING as I am
    NOT a prosecutor - I am just reporting the facts.
    Nope. You're reporting ASSERTIONS as IF they were facts.
    You don't seem to grasp the difference. The Lyin' Biden
    crime family is clearly disintegrating as the facts come
    out. I think that even you acknowledge that BooBoo's
    laptop is legitimate - which you DENIED for YEARS. BooBoo
    has gone from untouchable to having to face trial for
    felonies.
    Sorry, but that's not what I said.

    All we know is that Giuliani handed someone a hard drive he
    CLAIMED was a copy of the drive in a laptop he claimed was
    Hunter Biden's.

    Hey Fool, they ARE facts. BooBoo DID dodge millions in taxes
    that he is being prosecuted for. He DID lie on his gun
    application form that he is also being prosecuted for. He DID
    commit FARA violations which he SHOULD be prosecuted for.
    Lyin' Biden DID know about his business dealings despite his
    lies to the contrary.
    Sorry, but the FARA thing is NOT a fact. It is an assertion.

    Joe Biden knowing about his business dealings is also an
    assertion.

    This is the BIGEST political scandal EVER for the US which is
    why they are so desperate to keep Trump out of office.
    Well the 74 felonies for which there really ARE tons of facts
    (some straight from Trump himself) will probably take care of
    that.

    No Fool, BooBoo ADMITTED to being paid by Burisma (making it
    PROVEN) with the sole purpose of influencing his father.
    Sorry, but he never hid that he worked for Burisma.

    "with the sole purpose of influencing his father" is complete
    speculation without any corroboration.

    :-)

    What he hid was WHY he worked for Burisma, which was strictly
    influence peddling.
    You have literally no evidence that that is "WHY" he worked for Burisma

    You have literally no evidence of WHY BooBoo was hired by Burisma. It certainly WAS NOT because of his "knowledge" of the energy industry.

    And Lyin' Biden followed thru by getting the
    Ukrainian prosecutor fired, which he GLOATED about ON AIR!
    Getting Shokin fired was US policy...

    Right - AFTER Burisma paid Lyin' Biden MILLIONS!


    ...supported by the Republicans...

    Note: you provided ZERO evidence of this.


    ...because (among other things)...

    ...he was NOT investigating Burisma.

    Fact: Shokin WAS investigating Burisma - that is why they wanted him fired.


    And the immunity deal was buried in the Diversion Agreement by the prosecutors: https://abcnews.go.com/US/hunter-biden-plea-agreement/story?id=101718321#:~:text=Prosecutors%20included%20details%20about%20Hunter,of%20facts%20for%20the%20plea
    'But as things dragged on, and Noreika quizzed the lawyers from both
    sides about the particulars of the tax deal, she sussed out a
    disagreement between the parties on a critical question: Did the deal protect Hunter from possibly facing additional charges for illegal
    foreign lobbying, known as FARA (The Foreign Agents Registration Act)?
    The Justice Department said no, but Hunter Biden’s team thought yes.'

    The diversion agreement only pertains to gun-related charges:

    'The United States agrees not to criminally prosecute Biden, outside of
    the terms of this Agreement, for any federal crimes encompassed by the attached Statement of Facts (Attachment A) and the Statement of Facts attached as Exhibit 1'

    <https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23888015/diversion-agreement-attachment-a_1-scrubbed.pdf>

    There is literally nothing in the statement of facts concerning any
    charges under FARA or anything at all except the gun charge.

    NOPE, as noted above, Fool.






    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Tommy on Sun Jul 30 21:20:12 2023
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 9:16:17 PM UTC-7, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 4:19:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-30 10:28, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:52:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:33:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:24:18 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:19, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 11:40:33 AM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 11:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:37:08 AM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 10:25, Tommy wrote:

    Furthermore, BooBoo never paid the back taxes
    himself - a lawyer by the name of Kevin
    Morris did. The question is, what is in it
    for Morris? On top of that, BooBoo called
    that money from Morris a "loan," otherwise it
    would be a gift and he would owe taxes on the
    gift. What are the terms of the loan, how
    much, how often and what interest does BooBoo
    have to pay Morris? If this isn't specified
    then it is a gift and BooBoo is guilty of
    addition tax laws.
    https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-kevin-morris-rips-bong-as-first-son-visits-la-home/











    https://nypost.com/2022/05/08/hollywood-lawyer-kevin-morris-paid-off-over-2m-of-hunter-bidens-taxes/
    An anonymous source made that claim...

    ...more than two months ago.

    And there's still no substantiation for it.

    BooBoo said that he took out a loan to pay his
    taxes; WHO gave him that loan? And the same thing
    applies: if that "loan" is in reality a gift
    BooBoo owes taxes on the gift.
    You don't pay taxes on gifts, Sunshine.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html









    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-guilty-plea-agreement-tax-investigation/
    "The two misdemeanor tax charges relate to his
    willful failure to pay taxes for 2017 and 2018. A
    filing indicates Hunter Biden had more than $1.5
    million in income each year. He has since fully
    repaid back taxes and fines, including $2 million
    reportedly paid to the federal government last
    year, with the help of a loan from his personal
    attorney."
    Again:

    A month old.

    No source provided.

    Hey Fool, because that was WHEN BooBoo "paid" his
    taxes (although he pay them, Morris did).
    You still haven't provided any proof of that.

    And now the immunity deal is off the table and BooBoo
    and the crooked attorneys are going to have to dream
    up a new deal. He has more tax charges he is facing
    AND the FARA violation. And this IS NOT a "slap on
    the wrist" offense
    (https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara/recent-cases):
    There was NO "immunity deal".

    When he was getting ready to enter his plea, the judge
    asked if he was getting immunity from other
    investigations that might result in charges and the
    judge was told "NO".

    "Manafort failed to register under FARA as an agent
    of the Government of Ukraine, the Ukrainian Party of
    Regions, and former Ukrainian President Yanukovych.
    Manafort was sentenced to 73 months’ imprisonment,
    including the statutory maximum 60 months for the
    conspiracy to violate FARA (Manafort is due to serve
    an additional 17 months stemming from his conviction
    in the Eastern District of Virginia)."
    Whataboutism.

    Note that BooBoo was being paid, at least, $83,000 a
    month by Burisma to lobby Papa Lyin' Joe. In reality,
    he and his firm were paid MILLIONS by Burisma:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-shows-firm-took-11-million-2013-2018-rcna29462






    There is no proof that that was actually a true copy of any laptop >>>>>>>> owned by Biden.

    Since you like NBC News now, here's another story they
    wrote:

    'Trump and his allies say there is evidence of
    corruption in emails and documents allegedly found on a
    laptop belonging to Democrat Joe Biden’s son. They say
    those and other documents show that Hunter Biden used
    his father’s influence to enrich himself through
    business deals in Ukraine and China, and that his
    father not only facilitated that, but may have
    benefited financially.

    But the Wall Street Journal and Fox News — among the
    only news organizations that have been given access to
    key documents — found that the emails and other records >>>>>>>> don’t make that case. Leaving aside the many questions
    about their provenance, the materials offered no
    evidence that Joe Biden played any role in his son’s
    dealings in China, let alone profited from them, both
    news organizations concluded.'

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/here-s-what-happened-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533>






    Hey Fool, it is NOT my duty to provide "proof" of ANYTHING as I am
    NOT a prosecutor - I am just reporting the facts.
    Nope. You're reporting ASSERTIONS as IF they were facts.
    You don't seem to grasp the difference. The Lyin' Biden
    crime family is clearly disintegrating as the facts come
    out. I think that even you acknowledge that BooBoo's
    laptop is legitimate - which you DENIED for YEARS. BooBoo
    has gone from untouchable to having to face trial for
    felonies.
    Sorry, but that's not what I said.

    All we know is that Giuliani handed someone a hard drive he
    CLAIMED was a copy of the drive in a laptop he claimed was
    Hunter Biden's.

    Hey Fool, they ARE facts. BooBoo DID dodge millions in taxes
    that he is being prosecuted for. He DID lie on his gun
    application form that he is also being prosecuted for. He DID
    commit FARA violations which he SHOULD be prosecuted for.
    Lyin' Biden DID know about his business dealings despite his
    lies to the contrary.
    Sorry, but the FARA thing is NOT a fact. It is an assertion.

    Joe Biden knowing about his business dealings is also an
    assertion.

    This is the BIGEST political scandal EVER for the US which is
    why they are so desperate to keep Trump out of office.
    Well the 74 felonies for which there really ARE tons of facts
    (some straight from Trump himself) will probably take care of
    that.

    No Fool, BooBoo ADMITTED to being paid by Burisma (making it
    PROVEN) with the sole purpose of influencing his father.
    Sorry, but he never hid that he worked for Burisma.

    "with the sole purpose of influencing his father" is complete
    speculation without any corroboration.

    :-)

    What he hid was WHY he worked for Burisma, which was strictly
    influence peddling.
    You have literally no evidence that that is "WHY" he worked for Burisma
    You have literally no evidence of WHY BooBoo was hired by Burisma. It certainly WAS NOT because of his "knowledge" of the energy industry.
    And Lyin' Biden followed thru by getting the
    Ukrainian prosecutor fired, which he GLOATED about ON AIR!
    Getting Shokin fired was US policy...
    Right - AFTER Burisma paid Lyin' Biden MILLIONS!


    ...supported by the Republicans...

    Note: you provided ZERO evidence of this.

    ...because (among other things)...

    ...he was NOT investigating Burisma.
    Fact: Shokin WAS investigating Burisma - that is why they wanted him fired.

    And the immunity deal was buried in the Diversion Agreement by the prosecutors: https://abcnews.go.com/US/hunter-biden-plea-agreement/story?id=101718321#:~:text=Prosecutors%20included%20details%20about%20Hunter,of%20facts%20for%20the%20plea
    'But as things dragged on, and Noreika quizzed the lawyers from both
    sides about the particulars of the tax deal, she sussed out a
    disagreement between the parties on a critical question: Did the deal protect Hunter from possibly facing additional charges for illegal
    foreign lobbying, known as FARA (The Foreign Agents Registration Act)?
    The Justice Department said no, but Hunter Biden’s team thought yes.'

    The diversion agreement only pertains to gun-related charges:

    'The United States agrees not to criminally prosecute Biden, outside of the terms of this Agreement, for any federal crimes encompassed by the attached Statement of Facts (Attachment A) and the Statement of Facts attached as Exhibit 1'

    <https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23888015/diversion-agreement-attachment-a_1-scrubbed.pdf>

    There is literally nothing in the statement of facts concerning any charges under FARA or anything at all except the gun charge.
    NOPE, as noted above, Fool.






    The bottom line of this ENTIRE MESS is that the Judge REJECTED this shitty plea agreement, along with the absurd immunity deal, and sent these fools back to the drawing board, forcing BooBoo to plead innocent and face trial on MULTIPLE FELONIES.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Sun Jul 30 21:30:15 2023
    On 2023-07-30 21:16, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 4:19:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-30 10:28, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:52:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:33:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:24:18 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:19, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 11:40:33 AM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 11:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:37:08 AM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 10:25, Tommy wrote:

    Furthermore, BooBoo never paid the back taxes
    himself - a lawyer by the name of Kevin
    Morris did. The question is, what is in it
    for Morris? On top of that, BooBoo called
    that money from Morris a "loan," otherwise it
    would be a gift and he would owe taxes on the
    gift. What are the terms of the loan, how
    much, how often and what interest does BooBoo
    have to pay Morris? If this isn't specified
    then it is a gift and BooBoo is guilty of
    addition tax laws.
    https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-kevin-morris-rips-bong-as-first-son-visits-la-home/












    https://nypost.com/2022/05/08/hollywood-lawyer-kevin-morris-paid-off-over-2m-of-hunter-bidens-taxes/
    An anonymous source made that claim...

    ...more than two months ago.

    And there's still no substantiation for it.

    BooBoo said that he took out a loan to pay his
    taxes; WHO gave him that loan? And the same thing
    applies: if that "loan" is in reality a gift
    BooBoo owes taxes on the gift.
    You don't pay taxes on gifts, Sunshine.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html










    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-guilty-plea-agreement-tax-investigation/
    "The two misdemeanor tax charges relate to his
    willful failure to pay taxes for 2017 and 2018. A
    filing indicates Hunter Biden had more than $1.5
    million in income each year. He has since fully
    repaid back taxes and fines, including $2 million
    reportedly paid to the federal government last
    year, with the help of a loan from his personal
    attorney."
    Again:

    A month old.

    No source provided.

    Hey Fool, because that was WHEN BooBoo "paid" his
    taxes (although he pay them, Morris did).
    You still haven't provided any proof of that.

    And now the immunity deal is off the table and BooBoo
    and the crooked attorneys are going to have to dream
    up a new deal. He has more tax charges he is facing
    AND the FARA violation. And this IS NOT a "slap on
    the wrist" offense
    (https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara/recent-cases):
    There was NO "immunity deal".

    When he was getting ready to enter his plea, the judge
    asked if he was getting immunity from other
    investigations that might result in charges and the
    judge was told "NO".

    "Manafort failed to register under FARA as an agent
    of the Government of Ukraine, the Ukrainian Party of
    Regions, and former Ukrainian President Yanukovych.
    Manafort was sentenced to 73 months’ imprisonment,
    including the statutory maximum 60 months for the
    conspiracy to violate FARA (Manafort is due to serve
    an additional 17 months stemming from his conviction
    in the Eastern District of Virginia)."
    Whataboutism.

    Note that BooBoo was being paid, at least, $83,000 a
    month by Burisma to lobby Papa Lyin' Joe. In reality,
    he and his firm were paid MILLIONS by Burisma:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-shows-firm-took-11-million-2013-2018-rcna29462






    There is no proof that that was actually a true copy of any laptop >>>>>>>>>> owned by Biden.

    Since you like NBC News now, here's another story they
    wrote:

    'Trump and his allies say there is evidence of
    corruption in emails and documents allegedly found on a
    laptop belonging to Democrat Joe Biden’s son. They say
    those and other documents show that Hunter Biden used
    his father’s influence to enrich himself through
    business deals in Ukraine and China, and that his
    father not only facilitated that, but may have
    benefited financially.

    But the Wall Street Journal and Fox News — among the
    only news organizations that have been given access to
    key documents — found that the emails and other records
    don’t make that case. Leaving aside the many questions
    about their provenance, the materials offered no
    evidence that Joe Biden played any role in his son’s
    dealings in China, let alone profited from them, both
    news organizations concluded.'

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/here-s-what-happened-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533>






    Hey Fool, it is NOT my duty to provide "proof" of ANYTHING as I am
    NOT a prosecutor - I am just reporting the facts.
    Nope. You're reporting ASSERTIONS as IF they were facts.
    You don't seem to grasp the difference. The Lyin' Biden
    crime family is clearly disintegrating as the facts come
    out. I think that even you acknowledge that BooBoo's
    laptop is legitimate - which you DENIED for YEARS. BooBoo
    has gone from untouchable to having to face trial for
    felonies.
    Sorry, but that's not what I said.

    All we know is that Giuliani handed someone a hard drive he
    CLAIMED was a copy of the drive in a laptop he claimed was
    Hunter Biden's.

    Hey Fool, they ARE facts. BooBoo DID dodge millions in taxes
    that he is being prosecuted for. He DID lie on his gun
    application form that he is also being prosecuted for. He DID
    commit FARA violations which he SHOULD be prosecuted for.
    Lyin' Biden DID know about his business dealings despite his
    lies to the contrary.
    Sorry, but the FARA thing is NOT a fact. It is an assertion.

    Joe Biden knowing about his business dealings is also an
    assertion.

    This is the BIGEST political scandal EVER for the US which is
    why they are so desperate to keep Trump out of office.
    Well the 74 felonies for which there really ARE tons of facts
    (some straight from Trump himself) will probably take care of
    that.

    No Fool, BooBoo ADMITTED to being paid by Burisma (making it
    PROVEN) with the sole purpose of influencing his father.
    Sorry, but he never hid that he worked for Burisma.

    "with the sole purpose of influencing his father" is complete
    speculation without any corroboration.

    :-)

    What he hid was WHY he worked for Burisma, which was strictly
    influence peddling.
    You have literally no evidence that that is "WHY" he worked for Burisma

    You have literally no evidence of WHY BooBoo was hired by Burisma. It certainly WAS NOT because of his "knowledge" of the energy industry.

    And Lyin' Biden followed thru by getting the
    Ukrainian prosecutor fired, which he GLOATED about ON AIR!
    Getting Shokin fired was US policy...

    Right - AFTER Burisma paid Lyin' Biden MILLIONS!


    ...supported by the Republicans...

    Note: you provided ZERO evidence of this.

    Because I knew you'd go there...

    ...and if I were a failure like you, I'd just tell you to "GOOGLE IT!!!".

    But I'm not you, so I DID Google it:

    'A newly unearthed letter from 2016 shows that Republican senators
    pushed for reforms to Ukraine’s prosecutor general’s office and
    judiciary, echoing calls then-Vice President Joe Biden made at the time.

    CNN’s KFile found a February 2016 bipartisan letter signed by several Republican senators that urged then-Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko
    to “press ahead with urgent reforms to the Prosecutor General’s office
    and judiciary.”'

    <https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/03/politics/gop-senators-echoed-biden-on-ukraine-reforms-kfile/index.html>



    ...because (among other things)...

    ...he was NOT investigating Burisma.

    Fact: Shokin WAS investigating Burisma - that is why they wanted him fired.

    I notice you provided ZERO evidence of this...

    :-)



    And the immunity deal was buried in the Diversion Agreement by the
    prosecutors:
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/hunter-biden-plea-agreement/story?id=101718321#:~:text=Prosecutors%20included%20details%20about%20Hunter,of%20facts%20for%20the%20plea
    'But as things dragged on, and Noreika quizzed the lawyers from both
    sides about the particulars of the tax deal, she sussed out a
    disagreement between the parties on a critical question: Did the deal
    protect Hunter from possibly facing additional charges for illegal
    foreign lobbying, known as FARA (The Foreign Agents Registration Act)?
    The Justice Department said no, but Hunter Biden’s team thought yes.'

    The diversion agreement only pertains to gun-related charges:

    'The United States agrees not to criminally prosecute Biden, outside of
    the terms of this Agreement, for any federal crimes encompassed by the
    attached Statement of Facts (Attachment A) and the Statement of Facts
    attached as Exhibit 1'

    <https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23888015/diversion-agreement-attachment-a_1-scrubbed.pdf>

    There is literally nothing in the statement of facts concerning any
    charges under FARA or anything at all except the gun charge.

    NOPE, as noted above, Fool.

    Yup.

    As I already schooled you.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Sun Jul 30 21:31:15 2023
    On 2023-07-30 21:17, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 9:15:02 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-30 21:12, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 4:19:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-30 10:28, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:52:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:33:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:24:18 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 2023-07-29 17:19, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 11:40:33 AM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 11:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:37:08 AM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 10:25, Tommy wrote:

    Furthermore, BooBoo never paid the back taxes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> himself - a lawyer by the name of Kevin
    Morris did. The question is, what is in it
    for Morris? On top of that, BooBoo called
    that money from Morris a "loan," otherwise it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be a gift and he would owe taxes on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gift. What are the terms of the loan, how
    much, how often and what interest does BooBoo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to pay Morris? If this isn't specified
    then it is a gift and BooBoo is guilty of
    addition tax laws.
    https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-kevin-morris-rips-bong-as-first-son-visits-la-home/












    https://nypost.com/2022/05/08/hollywood-lawyer-kevin-morris-paid-off-over-2m-of-hunter-bidens-taxes/
    An anonymous source made that claim...

    ...more than two months ago.

    And there's still no substantiation for it.

    BooBoo said that he took out a loan to pay his
    taxes; WHO gave him that loan? And the same thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> applies: if that "loan" is in reality a gift
    BooBoo owes taxes on the gift.
    You don't pay taxes on gifts, Sunshine.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html










    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-guilty-plea-agreement-tax-investigation/
    "The two misdemeanor tax charges relate to his
    willful failure to pay taxes for 2017 and 2018. A >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filing indicates Hunter Biden had more than $1.5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> million in income each year. He has since fully
    repaid back taxes and fines, including $2 million >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reportedly paid to the federal government last
    year, with the help of a loan from his personal
    attorney."
    Again:

    A month old.

    No source provided.

    Hey Fool, because that was WHEN BooBoo "paid" his
    taxes (although he pay them, Morris did).
    You still haven't provided any proof of that.

    And now the immunity deal is off the table and BooBoo >>>>>>>>>>>>> and the crooked attorneys are going to have to dream >>>>>>>>>>>>> up a new deal. He has more tax charges he is facing
    AND the FARA violation. And this IS NOT a "slap on
    the wrist" offense
    (https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara/recent-cases):
    There was NO "immunity deal".

    When he was getting ready to enter his plea, the judge >>>>>>>>>>>> asked if he was getting immunity from other
    investigations that might result in charges and the
    judge was told "NO".

    "Manafort failed to register under FARA as an agent
    of the Government of Ukraine, the Ukrainian Party of >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regions, and former Ukrainian President Yanukovych.
    Manafort was sentenced to 73 months’ imprisonment, >>>>>>>>>>>>> including the statutory maximum 60 months for the
    conspiracy to violate FARA (Manafort is due to serve >>>>>>>>>>>>> an additional 17 months stemming from his conviction >>>>>>>>>>>>> in the Eastern District of Virginia)."
    Whataboutism.

    Note that BooBoo was being paid, at least, $83,000 a >>>>>>>>>>>>> month by Burisma to lobby Papa Lyin' Joe. In reality, >>>>>>>>>>>>> he and his firm were paid MILLIONS by Burisma:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-shows-firm-took-11-million-2013-2018-rcna29462






    There is no proof that that was actually a true copy of any laptop >>>>>>>>>>>> owned by Biden.

    Since you like NBC News now, here's another story they >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    'Trump and his allies say there is evidence of
    corruption in emails and documents allegedly found on a >>>>>>>>>>>> laptop belonging to Democrat Joe Biden’s son. They say >>>>>>>>>>>> those and other documents show that Hunter Biden used
    his father’s influence to enrich himself through
    business deals in Ukraine and China, and that his
    father not only facilitated that, but may have
    benefited financially.

    But the Wall Street Journal and Fox News — among the >>>>>>>>>>>> only news organizations that have been given access to >>>>>>>>>>>> key documents — found that the emails and other records >>>>>>>>>>>> don’t make that case. Leaving aside the many questions >>>>>>>>>>>> about their provenance, the materials offered no
    evidence that Joe Biden played any role in his son’s >>>>>>>>>>>> dealings in China, let alone profited from them, both
    news organizations concluded.'

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/here-s-what-happened-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533>






    Hey Fool, it is NOT my duty to provide "proof" of ANYTHING as I am >>>>>>>>>>> NOT a prosecutor - I am just reporting the facts.
    Nope. You're reporting ASSERTIONS as IF they were facts.
    You don't seem to grasp the difference. The Lyin' Biden
    crime family is clearly disintegrating as the facts come >>>>>>>>>>> out. I think that even you acknowledge that BooBoo's
    laptop is legitimate - which you DENIED for YEARS. BooBoo >>>>>>>>>>> has gone from untouchable to having to face trial for
    felonies.
    Sorry, but that's not what I said.

    All we know is that Giuliani handed someone a hard drive he >>>>>>>>>> CLAIMED was a copy of the drive in a laptop he claimed was >>>>>>>>>> Hunter Biden's.

    Hey Fool, they ARE facts. BooBoo DID dodge millions in taxes >>>>>>>>> that he is being prosecuted for. He DID lie on his gun
    application form that he is also being prosecuted for. He DID >>>>>>>>> commit FARA violations which he SHOULD be prosecuted for.
    Lyin' Biden DID know about his business dealings despite his >>>>>>>>> lies to the contrary.
    Sorry, but the FARA thing is NOT a fact. It is an assertion.

    Joe Biden knowing about his business dealings is also an
    assertion.

    This is the BIGEST political scandal EVER for the US which is >>>>>>>>> why they are so desperate to keep Trump out of office.
    Well the 74 felonies for which there really ARE tons of facts
    (some straight from Trump himself) will probably take care of
    that.

    No Fool, BooBoo ADMITTED to being paid by Burisma (making it
    PROVEN) with the sole purpose of influencing his father.
    Sorry, but he never hid that he worked for Burisma.

    "with the sole purpose of influencing his father" is complete
    speculation without any corroboration.

    :-)

    What he hid was WHY he worked for Burisma, which was strictly
    influence peddling.
    You have literally no evidence that that is "WHY" he worked for Burisma >>>>> And Lyin' Biden followed thru by getting the
    Ukrainian prosecutor fired, which he GLOATED about ON AIR!
    Getting Shokin fired was US policy...

    ...supported by the Republicans...

    ...because (among other things)...

    ...he was NOT investigating Burisma.

    And the immunity deal was buried in the Diversion Agreement by the
    prosecutors:
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/hunter-biden-plea-agreement/story?id=101718321#:~:text=Prosecutors%20included%20details%20about%20Hunter,of%20facts%20for%20the%20plea
    'But as things dragged on, and Noreika quizzed the lawyers from both
    sides about the particulars of the tax deal, she sussed out a
    disagreement between the parties on a critical question: Did the deal
    protect Hunter from possibly facing additional charges for illegal
    foreign lobbying, known as FARA (The Foreign Agents Registration Act)? >>>> The Justice Department said no, but Hunter Biden’s team thought yes.' >>>>
    The diversion agreement only pertains to gun-related charges:

    'The United States agrees not to criminally prosecute Biden, outside of >>>> the terms of this Agreement, for any federal crimes encompassed by the >>>> attached Statement of Facts (Attachment A) and the Statement of Facts
    attached as Exhibit 1'

    <https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23888015/diversion-agreement-attachment-a_1-scrubbed.pdf>

    There is literally nothing in the statement of facts concerning any
    charges under FARA or anything at all except the gun charge.





    How is it that you are SO consistenly wrong on the facts, Fool?:

    "the much-cited Paragraph 15 -- which would include "any federal crimes encompassed" in the statement of facts for the plea agreement."

    "encompassed in the Statement of Facts".

    Show us anything in the "Statement of Facts" that doesn't pertain to the
    gun charge.

    What part of "any federal crimes encompassed" don't you understand?

    "encompassed in the Statement of Facts".

    Or did you think no one would notice you left that part out.

    Show any federal crime in the Statement of Facts that isn't related to
    the gun charge.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Sun Jul 30 21:42:19 2023
    On 2023-07-30 21:20, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 9:16:17 PM UTC-7, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 4:19:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-30 10:28, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:52:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:33:21 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:24:18 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:19, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 11:40:33 AM UTC-7,
    Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 11:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:37:08 AM
    UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 10:25, Tommy wrote:

    Furthermore, BooBoo never paid the back
    taxes himself - a lawyer by the name of
    Kevin Morris did. The question is, what
    is in it for Morris? On top of that,
    BooBoo called that money from Morris a
    "loan," otherwise it would be a gift
    and he would owe taxes on the gift.
    What are the terms of the loan, how
    much, how often and what interest does
    BooBoo have to pay Morris? If this
    isn't specified then it is a gift and
    BooBoo is guilty of addition tax laws.
    https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-kevin-morris-rips-bong-as-first-son-visits-la-home/













    https://nypost.com/2022/05/08/hollywood-lawyer-kevin-morris-paid-off-over-2m-of-hunter-bidens-taxes/
    An anonymous source made that claim...

    ...more than two months ago.

    And there's still no substantiation for
    it.

    BooBoo said that he took out a loan to pay
    his taxes; WHO gave him that loan? And the
    same thing applies: if that "loan" is in
    reality a gift BooBoo owes taxes on the
    gift.
    You don't pay taxes on gifts, Sunshine.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html











    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-guilty-plea-agreement-tax-investigation/
    "The two misdemeanor tax charges relate to
    his willful failure to pay taxes for 2017
    and 2018. A filing indicates Hunter Biden
    had more than $1.5 million in income each
    year. He has since fully repaid back taxes
    and fines, including $2 million reportedly
    paid to the federal government last year,
    with the help of a loan from his personal
    attorney."
    Again:

    A month old.

    No source provided.

    Hey Fool, because that was WHEN BooBoo "paid"
    his taxes (although he pay them, Morris did).
    You still haven't provided any proof of that.

    And now the immunity deal is off the table and
    BooBoo and the crooked attorneys are going to
    have to dream up a new deal. He has more tax
    charges he is facing AND the FARA violation.
    And this IS NOT a "slap on the wrist" offense
    (https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara/recent-cases):


    There was NO "immunity deal".

    When he was getting ready to enter his plea, the
    judge asked if he was getting immunity from
    other investigations that might result in charges
    and the judge was told "NO".

    "Manafort failed to register under FARA as an
    agent of the Government of Ukraine, the
    Ukrainian Party of Regions, and former
    Ukrainian President Yanukovych. Manafort was
    sentenced to 73 months’ imprisonment, including
    the statutory maximum 60 months for the
    conspiracy to violate FARA (Manafort is due to
    serve an additional 17 months stemming from his
    conviction in the Eastern District of
    Virginia)."
    Whataboutism.

    Note that BooBoo was being paid, at least,
    $83,000 a month by Burisma to lobby Papa Lyin'
    Joe. In reality, he and his firm were paid
    MILLIONS by Burisma:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-shows-firm-took-11-million-2013-2018-rcna29462








    There is no proof that that was actually a true copy of any laptop
    owned by Biden.

    Since you like NBC News now, here's another story
    they wrote:

    'Trump and his allies say there is evidence of
    corruption in emails and documents allegedly
    found on a laptop belonging to Democrat Joe
    Biden’s son. They say those and other documents
    show that Hunter Biden used his father’s
    influence to enrich himself through business
    deals in Ukraine and China, and that his father
    not only facilitated that, but may have benefited
    financially.

    But the Wall Street Journal and Fox News — among
    the only news organizations that have been given
    access to key documents — found that the emails
    and other records don’t make that case. Leaving
    aside the many questions about their provenance,
    the materials offered no evidence that Joe Biden
    played any role in his son’s dealings in China,
    let alone profited from them, both news
    organizations concluded.'

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/here-s-what-happened-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533>








    Hey Fool, it is NOT my duty to provide "proof" of ANYTHING as I am
    NOT a prosecutor - I am just reporting the facts.
    Nope. You're reporting ASSERTIONS as IF they were
    facts.
    You don't seem to grasp the difference. The Lyin'
    Biden crime family is clearly disintegrating as the
    facts come out. I think that even you acknowledge
    that BooBoo's laptop is legitimate - which you
    DENIED for YEARS. BooBoo has gone from untouchable
    to having to face trial for felonies.
    Sorry, but that's not what I said.

    All we know is that Giuliani handed someone a hard
    drive he CLAIMED was a copy of the drive in a laptop
    he claimed was Hunter Biden's.

    Hey Fool, they ARE facts. BooBoo DID dodge millions in
    taxes that he is being prosecuted for. He DID lie on
    his gun application form that he is also being
    prosecuted for. He DID commit FARA violations which he
    SHOULD be prosecuted for. Lyin' Biden DID know about
    his business dealings despite his lies to the
    contrary.
    Sorry, but the FARA thing is NOT a fact. It is an
    assertion.

    Joe Biden knowing about his business dealings is also an
    assertion.

    This is the BIGEST political scandal EVER for the US
    which is why they are so desperate to keep Trump out of
    office.
    Well the 74 felonies for which there really ARE tons of
    facts (some straight from Trump himself) will probably
    take care of that.

    No Fool, BooBoo ADMITTED to being paid by Burisma (making
    it PROVEN) with the sole purpose of influencing his
    father.
    Sorry, but he never hid that he worked for Burisma.

    "with the sole purpose of influencing his father" is
    complete speculation without any corroboration.

    :-)

    What he hid was WHY he worked for Burisma, which was strictly
    influence peddling.
    You have literally no evidence that that is "WHY" he worked for
    Burisma
    You have literally no evidence of WHY BooBoo was hired by Burisma.
    It certainly WAS NOT because of his "knowledge" of the energy
    industry.
    And Lyin' Biden followed thru by getting the Ukrainian
    prosecutor fired, which he GLOATED about ON AIR!
    Getting Shokin fired was US policy...
    Right - AFTER Burisma paid Lyin' Biden MILLIONS!


    ...supported by the Republicans...

    Note: you provided ZERO evidence of this.

    ...because (among other things)...

    ...he was NOT investigating Burisma.
    Fact: Shokin WAS investigating Burisma - that is why they wanted
    him fired.

    And the immunity deal was buried in the Diversion Agreement by
    the prosecutors:
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/hunter-biden-plea-agreement/story?id=101718321#:~:text=Prosecutors%20included%20details%20about%20Hunter,of%20facts%20for%20the%20plea


    'But as things dragged on, and Noreika quizzed the lawyers from both
    sides about the particulars of the tax deal, she sussed out a
    disagreement between the parties on a critical question: Did the
    deal protect Hunter from possibly facing additional charges for
    illegal foreign lobbying, known as FARA (The Foreign Agents
    Registration Act)? The Justice Department said no, but Hunter
    Biden’s team thought yes.'

    The diversion agreement only pertains to gun-related charges:

    'The United States agrees not to criminally prosecute Biden,
    outside of the terms of this Agreement, for any federal crimes
    encompassed by the attached Statement of Facts (Attachment A) and
    the Statement of Facts attached as Exhibit 1'

    <https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23888015/diversion-agreement-attachment-a_1-scrubbed.pdf>



    There is literally nothing in the statement of facts concerning any
    charges under FARA or anything at all except the gun charge.
    NOPE, as noted above, Fool.






    The bottom line of this ENTIRE MESS is that the Judge REJECTED this
    shitty plea agreement, along with the absurd immunity deal, and sent
    these fools back to the drawing board, forcing BooBoo to plead
    innocent and face trial on MULTIPLE FELONIES.


    <https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23888608/transcript-of-july-26-2023-hearing.pdf>

    There's the court transcript, Sunshine.

    Quote the part where the judge rejects the deal.

    :-)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Jul 31 07:35:29 2023
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 9:42:23 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-30 21:20, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 9:16:17 PM UTC-7, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 4:19:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-30 10:28, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:52:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:33:21 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:24:18 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:19, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 11:40:33 AM UTC-7,
    Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 11:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:37:08 AM
    UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 10:25, Tommy wrote:

    Furthermore, BooBoo never paid the back
    taxes himself - a lawyer by the name of
    Kevin Morris did. The question is, what
    is in it for Morris? On top of that,
    BooBoo called that money from Morris a
    "loan," otherwise it would be a gift
    and he would owe taxes on the gift.
    What are the terms of the loan, how
    much, how often and what interest does
    BooBoo have to pay Morris? If this
    isn't specified then it is a gift and
    BooBoo is guilty of addition tax laws.
    https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-kevin-morris-rips-bong-as-first-son-visits-la-home/













    https://nypost.com/2022/05/08/hollywood-lawyer-kevin-morris-paid-off-over-2m-of-hunter-bidens-taxes/
    An anonymous source made that claim...

    ...more than two months ago.

    And there's still no substantiation for
    it.

    BooBoo said that he took out a loan to pay
    his taxes; WHO gave him that loan? And the
    same thing applies: if that "loan" is in
    reality a gift BooBoo owes taxes on the
    gift.
    You don't pay taxes on gifts, Sunshine.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html











    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-guilty-plea-agreement-tax-investigation/
    "The two misdemeanor tax charges relate to
    his willful failure to pay taxes for 2017
    and 2018. A filing indicates Hunter Biden
    had more than $1.5 million in income each
    year. He has since fully repaid back taxes
    and fines, including $2 million reportedly
    paid to the federal government last year,
    with the help of a loan from his personal
    attorney."
    Again:

    A month old.

    No source provided.

    Hey Fool, because that was WHEN BooBoo "paid"
    his taxes (although he pay them, Morris did).
    You still haven't provided any proof of that.

    And now the immunity deal is off the table and
    BooBoo and the crooked attorneys are going to
    have to dream up a new deal. He has more tax
    charges he is facing AND the FARA violation.
    And this IS NOT a "slap on the wrist" offense
    (https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara/recent-cases):


    There was NO "immunity deal".

    When he was getting ready to enter his plea, the
    judge asked if he was getting immunity from
    other investigations that might result in charges
    and the judge was told "NO".

    "Manafort failed to register under FARA as an
    agent of the Government of Ukraine, the
    Ukrainian Party of Regions, and former
    Ukrainian President Yanukovych. Manafort was
    sentenced to 73 months’ imprisonment, including
    the statutory maximum 60 months for the
    conspiracy to violate FARA (Manafort is due to
    serve an additional 17 months stemming from his
    conviction in the Eastern District of
    Virginia)."
    Whataboutism.

    Note that BooBoo was being paid, at least,
    $83,000 a month by Burisma to lobby Papa Lyin'
    Joe. In reality, he and his firm were paid
    MILLIONS by Burisma:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-shows-firm-took-11-million-2013-2018-rcna29462








    There is no proof that that was actually a true copy of any laptop >>>>>>>>>>> owned by Biden.

    Since you like NBC News now, here's another story
    they wrote:

    'Trump and his allies say there is evidence of
    corruption in emails and documents allegedly
    found on a laptop belonging to Democrat Joe
    Biden’s son. They say those and other documents
    show that Hunter Biden used his father’s
    influence to enrich himself through business
    deals in Ukraine and China, and that his father
    not only facilitated that, but may have benefited
    financially.

    But the Wall Street Journal and Fox News — among
    the only news organizations that have been given
    access to key documents — found that the emails
    and other records don’t make that case. Leaving
    aside the many questions about their provenance,
    the materials offered no evidence that Joe Biden
    played any role in his son’s dealings in China,
    let alone profited from them, both news
    organizations concluded.'

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/here-s-what-happened-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533>








    Hey Fool, it is NOT my duty to provide "proof" of ANYTHING as I am >>>>>>>>>> NOT a prosecutor - I am just reporting the facts.
    Nope. You're reporting ASSERTIONS as IF they were
    facts.
    You don't seem to grasp the difference. The Lyin'
    Biden crime family is clearly disintegrating as the
    facts come out. I think that even you acknowledge
    that BooBoo's laptop is legitimate - which you
    DENIED for YEARS. BooBoo has gone from untouchable
    to having to face trial for felonies.
    Sorry, but that's not what I said.

    All we know is that Giuliani handed someone a hard
    drive he CLAIMED was a copy of the drive in a laptop
    he claimed was Hunter Biden's.

    Hey Fool, they ARE facts. BooBoo DID dodge millions in
    taxes that he is being prosecuted for. He DID lie on
    his gun application form that he is also being
    prosecuted for. He DID commit FARA violations which he
    SHOULD be prosecuted for. Lyin' Biden DID know about
    his business dealings despite his lies to the
    contrary.
    Sorry, but the FARA thing is NOT a fact. It is an
    assertion.

    Joe Biden knowing about his business dealings is also an
    assertion.

    This is the BIGEST political scandal EVER for the US
    which is why they are so desperate to keep Trump out of
    office.
    Well the 74 felonies for which there really ARE tons of
    facts (some straight from Trump himself) will probably
    take care of that.

    No Fool, BooBoo ADMITTED to being paid by Burisma (making
    it PROVEN) with the sole purpose of influencing his
    father.
    Sorry, but he never hid that he worked for Burisma.

    "with the sole purpose of influencing his father" is
    complete speculation without any corroboration.

    :-)

    What he hid was WHY he worked for Burisma, which was strictly
    influence peddling.
    You have literally no evidence that that is "WHY" he worked for
    Burisma
    You have literally no evidence of WHY BooBoo was hired by Burisma.
    It certainly WAS NOT because of his "knowledge" of the energy
    industry.
    And Lyin' Biden followed thru by getting the Ukrainian
    prosecutor fired, which he GLOATED about ON AIR!
    Getting Shokin fired was US policy...
    Right - AFTER Burisma paid Lyin' Biden MILLIONS!


    ...supported by the Republicans...

    Note: you provided ZERO evidence of this.

    ...because (among other things)...

    ...he was NOT investigating Burisma.
    Fact: Shokin WAS investigating Burisma - that is why they wanted
    him fired.

    And the immunity deal was buried in the Diversion Agreement by
    the prosecutors:
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/hunter-biden-plea-agreement/story?id=101718321#:~:text=Prosecutors%20included%20details%20about%20Hunter,of%20facts%20for%20the%20plea


    'But as things dragged on, and Noreika quizzed the lawyers from both
    sides about the particulars of the tax deal, she sussed out a
    disagreement between the parties on a critical question: Did the
    deal protect Hunter from possibly facing additional charges for
    illegal foreign lobbying, known as FARA (The Foreign Agents
    Registration Act)? The Justice Department said no, but Hunter
    Biden’s team thought yes.'

    The diversion agreement only pertains to gun-related charges:

    'The United States agrees not to criminally prosecute Biden,
    outside of the terms of this Agreement, for any federal crimes
    encompassed by the attached Statement of Facts (Attachment A) and
    the Statement of Facts attached as Exhibit 1'

    <https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23888015/diversion-agreement-attachment-a_1-scrubbed.pdf>



    There is literally nothing in the statement of facts concerning any
    charges under FARA or anything at all except the gun charge.
    NOPE, as noted above, Fool.






    The bottom line of this ENTIRE MESS is that the Judge REJECTED this
    shitty plea agreement, along with the absurd immunity deal, and sent
    these fools back to the drawing board, forcing BooBoo to plead
    innocent and face trial on MULTIPLE FELONIES.

    <https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23888608/transcript-of-july-26-2023-hearing.pdf>

    There's the court transcript, Sunshine.

    Quote the part where the judge rejects the deal.

    :-)

    Where does it say she is going to accept the agreement?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Mon Jul 31 08:07:45 2023
    On 2023-07-31 07:35, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 9:42:23 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-30 21:20, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 9:16:17 PM UTC-7, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 4:19:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-30 10:28, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:52:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:33:21 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:24:18 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:19, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 11:40:33 AM UTC-7,
    Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 11:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:37:08 AM
    UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 10:25, Tommy wrote:

    Furthermore, BooBoo never paid the back
    taxes himself - a lawyer by the name of
    Kevin Morris did. The question is, what
    is in it for Morris? On top of that,
    BooBoo called that money from Morris a
    "loan," otherwise it would be a gift
    and he would owe taxes on the gift.
    What are the terms of the loan, how
    much, how often and what interest does
    BooBoo have to pay Morris? If this
    isn't specified then it is a gift and
    BooBoo is guilty of addition tax laws.
    https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-kevin-morris-rips-bong-as-first-son-visits-la-home/














    https://nypost.com/2022/05/08/hollywood-lawyer-kevin-morris-paid-off-over-2m-of-hunter-bidens-taxes/
    An anonymous source made that claim...

    ...more than two months ago.

    And there's still no substantiation for
    it.

    BooBoo said that he took out a loan to pay
    his taxes; WHO gave him that loan? And the
    same thing applies: if that "loan" is in
    reality a gift BooBoo owes taxes on the
    gift.
    You don't pay taxes on gifts, Sunshine.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html












    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-guilty-plea-agreement-tax-investigation/
    "The two misdemeanor tax charges relate to
    his willful failure to pay taxes for 2017
    and 2018. A filing indicates Hunter Biden
    had more than $1.5 million in income each
    year. He has since fully repaid back taxes
    and fines, including $2 million reportedly
    paid to the federal government last year,
    with the help of a loan from his personal
    attorney."
    Again:

    A month old.

    No source provided.

    Hey Fool, because that was WHEN BooBoo "paid"
    his taxes (although he pay them, Morris did).
    You still haven't provided any proof of that.

    And now the immunity deal is off the table and
    BooBoo and the crooked attorneys are going to
    have to dream up a new deal. He has more tax
    charges he is facing AND the FARA violation.
    And this IS NOT a "slap on the wrist" offense
    (https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara/recent-cases):


    There was NO "immunity deal".

    When he was getting ready to enter his plea, the
    judge asked if he was getting immunity from
    other investigations that might result in charges
    and the judge was told "NO".

    "Manafort failed to register under FARA as an
    agent of the Government of Ukraine, the
    Ukrainian Party of Regions, and former
    Ukrainian President Yanukovych. Manafort was
    sentenced to 73 months’ imprisonment, including
    the statutory maximum 60 months for the
    conspiracy to violate FARA (Manafort is due to
    serve an additional 17 months stemming from his
    conviction in the Eastern District of
    Virginia)."
    Whataboutism.

    Note that BooBoo was being paid, at least,
    $83,000 a month by Burisma to lobby Papa Lyin'
    Joe. In reality, he and his firm were paid
    MILLIONS by Burisma:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-shows-firm-took-11-million-2013-2018-rcna29462








    There is no proof that that was actually a true copy of any laptop >>>>>>>>>>>>> owned by Biden.

    Since you like NBC News now, here's another story
    they wrote:

    'Trump and his allies say there is evidence of
    corruption in emails and documents allegedly
    found on a laptop belonging to Democrat Joe
    Biden’s son. They say those and other documents
    show that Hunter Biden used his father’s
    influence to enrich himself through business
    deals in Ukraine and China, and that his father
    not only facilitated that, but may have benefited
    financially.

    But the Wall Street Journal and Fox News — among
    the only news organizations that have been given
    access to key documents — found that the emails
    and other records don’t make that case. Leaving
    aside the many questions about their provenance,
    the materials offered no evidence that Joe Biden
    played any role in his son’s dealings in China,
    let alone profited from them, both news
    organizations concluded.'

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/here-s-what-happened-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533>








    Hey Fool, it is NOT my duty to provide "proof" of ANYTHING as I am >>>>>>>>>>>> NOT a prosecutor - I am just reporting the facts.
    Nope. You're reporting ASSERTIONS as IF they were
    facts.
    You don't seem to grasp the difference. The Lyin'
    Biden crime family is clearly disintegrating as the
    facts come out. I think that even you acknowledge
    that BooBoo's laptop is legitimate - which you
    DENIED for YEARS. BooBoo has gone from untouchable
    to having to face trial for felonies.
    Sorry, but that's not what I said.

    All we know is that Giuliani handed someone a hard
    drive he CLAIMED was a copy of the drive in a laptop
    he claimed was Hunter Biden's.

    Hey Fool, they ARE facts. BooBoo DID dodge millions in
    taxes that he is being prosecuted for. He DID lie on
    his gun application form that he is also being
    prosecuted for. He DID commit FARA violations which he
    SHOULD be prosecuted for. Lyin' Biden DID know about
    his business dealings despite his lies to the
    contrary.
    Sorry, but the FARA thing is NOT a fact. It is an
    assertion.

    Joe Biden knowing about his business dealings is also an
    assertion.

    This is the BIGEST political scandal EVER for the US
    which is why they are so desperate to keep Trump out of
    office.
    Well the 74 felonies for which there really ARE tons of
    facts (some straight from Trump himself) will probably
    take care of that.

    No Fool, BooBoo ADMITTED to being paid by Burisma (making
    it PROVEN) with the sole purpose of influencing his
    father.
    Sorry, but he never hid that he worked for Burisma.

    "with the sole purpose of influencing his father" is
    complete speculation without any corroboration.

    :-)

    What he hid was WHY he worked for Burisma, which was strictly
    influence peddling.
    You have literally no evidence that that is "WHY" he worked for
    Burisma
    You have literally no evidence of WHY BooBoo was hired by Burisma.
    It certainly WAS NOT because of his "knowledge" of the energy
    industry.
    And Lyin' Biden followed thru by getting the Ukrainian
    prosecutor fired, which he GLOATED about ON AIR!
    Getting Shokin fired was US policy...
    Right - AFTER Burisma paid Lyin' Biden MILLIONS!


    ...supported by the Republicans...

    Note: you provided ZERO evidence of this.

    ...because (among other things)...

    ...he was NOT investigating Burisma.
    Fact: Shokin WAS investigating Burisma - that is why they wanted
    him fired.

    And the immunity deal was buried in the Diversion Agreement by
    the prosecutors:
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/hunter-biden-plea-agreement/story?id=101718321#:~:text=Prosecutors%20included%20details%20about%20Hunter,of%20facts%20for%20the%20plea


    'But as things dragged on, and Noreika quizzed the lawyers from both >>>>> sides about the particulars of the tax deal, she sussed out a
    disagreement between the parties on a critical question: Did the
    deal protect Hunter from possibly facing additional charges for
    illegal foreign lobbying, known as FARA (The Foreign Agents
    Registration Act)? The Justice Department said no, but Hunter
    Biden’s team thought yes.'

    The diversion agreement only pertains to gun-related charges:

    'The United States agrees not to criminally prosecute Biden,
    outside of the terms of this Agreement, for any federal crimes
    encompassed by the attached Statement of Facts (Attachment A) and
    the Statement of Facts attached as Exhibit 1'

    <https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23888015/diversion-agreement-attachment-a_1-scrubbed.pdf>



    There is literally nothing in the statement of facts concerning any
    charges under FARA or anything at all except the gun charge.
    NOPE, as noted above, Fool.






    The bottom line of this ENTIRE MESS is that the Judge REJECTED this
    shitty plea agreement, along with the absurd immunity deal, and sent
    these fools back to the drawing board, forcing BooBoo to plead
    innocent and face trial on MULTIPLE FELONIES.

    <https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23888608/transcript-of-july-26-2023-hearing.pdf>

    There's the court transcript, Sunshine.

    Quote the part where the judge rejects the deal.

    :-)

    Where does it say she is going to accept the agreement?

    Sorry, Sunshine.

    But you claim she "REJECTED" the agreement.

    So produce the quote.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Mon Jul 31 08:34:31 2023
    On 2023-07-31 08:28, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 8:07:55 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-31 07:35, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 9:42:23 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-30 21:20, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 9:16:17 PM UTC-7, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 4:19:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-30 10:28, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:52:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2023-07-29 17:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:33:21 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:24:18 PM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:19, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 11:40:33 AM UTC-7, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 11:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:37:08 AM
    UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 10:25, Tommy wrote:

    Furthermore, BooBoo never paid the back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taxes himself - a lawyer by the name of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kevin Morris did. The question is, what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is in it for Morris? On top of that,
    BooBoo called that money from Morris a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "loan," otherwise it would be a gift
    and he would owe taxes on the gift.
    What are the terms of the loan, how
    much, how often and what interest does >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BooBoo have to pay Morris? If this
    isn't specified then it is a gift and
    BooBoo is guilty of addition tax laws. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-kevin-morris-rips-bong-as-first-son-visits-la-home/














    https://nypost.com/2022/05/08/hollywood-lawyer-kevin-morris-paid-off-over-2m-of-hunter-bidens-taxes/
    An anonymous source made that claim...

    ...more than two months ago.

    And there's still no substantiation for
    it.

    BooBoo said that he took out a loan to pay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his taxes; WHO gave him that loan? And the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same thing applies: if that "loan" is in
    reality a gift BooBoo owes taxes on the
    gift.
    You don't pay taxes on gifts, Sunshine.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html












    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-guilty-plea-agreement-tax-investigation/
    "The two misdemeanor tax charges relate to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his willful failure to pay taxes for 2017
    and 2018. A filing indicates Hunter Biden
    had more than $1.5 million in income each
    year. He has since fully repaid back taxes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and fines, including $2 million reportedly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paid to the federal government last year,
    with the help of a loan from his personal
    attorney."
    Again:

    A month old.

    No source provided.

    Hey Fool, because that was WHEN BooBoo "paid"
    his taxes (although he pay them, Morris did).
    You still haven't provided any proof of that.

    And now the immunity deal is off the table and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BooBoo and the crooked attorneys are going to
    have to dream up a new deal. He has more tax
    charges he is facing AND the FARA violation.
    And this IS NOT a "slap on the wrist" offense
    (https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara/recent-cases): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    There was NO "immunity deal".

    When he was getting ready to enter his plea, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> judge asked if he was getting immunity from
    other investigations that might result in charges >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the judge was told "NO".

    "Manafort failed to register under FARA as an
    agent of the Government of Ukraine, the
    Ukrainian Party of Regions, and former
    Ukrainian President Yanukovych. Manafort was
    sentenced to 73 months’ imprisonment, including >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the statutory maximum 60 months for the
    conspiracy to violate FARA (Manafort is due to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serve an additional 17 months stemming from his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conviction in the Eastern District of
    Virginia)."
    Whataboutism.

    Note that BooBoo was being paid, at least,
    $83,000 a month by Burisma to lobby Papa Lyin' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe. In reality, he and his firm were paid
    MILLIONS by Burisma:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-shows-firm-took-11-million-2013-2018-rcna29462








    There is no proof that that was actually a true copy of any laptop >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owned by Biden.

    Since you like NBC News now, here's another story >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they wrote:

    'Trump and his allies say there is evidence of
    corruption in emails and documents allegedly
    found on a laptop belonging to Democrat Joe
    Biden’s son. They say those and other documents >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show that Hunter Biden used his father’s
    influence to enrich himself through business
    deals in Ukraine and China, and that his father
    not only facilitated that, but may have benefited >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> financially.

    But the Wall Street Journal and Fox News — among >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the only news organizations that have been given >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> access to key documents — found that the emails >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and other records don’t make that case. Leaving >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aside the many questions about their provenance, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the materials offered no evidence that Joe Biden >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> played any role in his son’s dealings in China, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let alone profited from them, both news
    organizations concluded.'

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/here-s-what-happened-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533>








    Hey Fool, it is NOT my duty to provide "proof" of ANYTHING as I am >>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOT a prosecutor - I am just reporting the facts.
    Nope. You're reporting ASSERTIONS as IF they were
    facts.
    You don't seem to grasp the difference. The Lyin'
    Biden crime family is clearly disintegrating as the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> facts come out. I think that even you acknowledge
    that BooBoo's laptop is legitimate - which you
    DENIED for YEARS. BooBoo has gone from untouchable >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to having to face trial for felonies.
    Sorry, but that's not what I said.

    All we know is that Giuliani handed someone a hard
    drive he CLAIMED was a copy of the drive in a laptop >>>>>>>>>>>>> he claimed was Hunter Biden's.

    Hey Fool, they ARE facts. BooBoo DID dodge millions in >>>>>>>>>>>> taxes that he is being prosecuted for. He DID lie on
    his gun application form that he is also being
    prosecuted for. He DID commit FARA violations which he >>>>>>>>>>>> SHOULD be prosecuted for. Lyin' Biden DID know about
    his business dealings despite his lies to the
    contrary.
    Sorry, but the FARA thing is NOT a fact. It is an
    assertion.

    Joe Biden knowing about his business dealings is also an >>>>>>>>>>> assertion.

    This is the BIGEST political scandal EVER for the US
    which is why they are so desperate to keep Trump out of >>>>>>>>>>>> office.
    Well the 74 felonies for which there really ARE tons of
    facts (some straight from Trump himself) will probably
    take care of that.

    No Fool, BooBoo ADMITTED to being paid by Burisma (making
    it PROVEN) with the sole purpose of influencing his
    father.
    Sorry, but he never hid that he worked for Burisma.

    "with the sole purpose of influencing his father" is
    complete speculation without any corroboration.

    :-)

    What he hid was WHY he worked for Burisma, which was strictly
    influence peddling.
    You have literally no evidence that that is "WHY" he worked for
    Burisma
    You have literally no evidence of WHY BooBoo was hired by Burisma. >>>>>> It certainly WAS NOT because of his "knowledge" of the energy
    industry.
    And Lyin' Biden followed thru by getting the Ukrainian
    prosecutor fired, which he GLOATED about ON AIR!
    Getting Shokin fired was US policy...
    Right - AFTER Burisma paid Lyin' Biden MILLIONS!


    ...supported by the Republicans...

    Note: you provided ZERO evidence of this.

    ...because (among other things)...

    ...he was NOT investigating Burisma.
    Fact: Shokin WAS investigating Burisma - that is why they wanted
    him fired.

    And the immunity deal was buried in the Diversion Agreement by >>>>>>>> the prosecutors:
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/hunter-biden-plea-agreement/story?id=101718321#:~:text=Prosecutors%20included%20details%20about%20Hunter,of%20facts%20for%20the%20plea


    'But as things dragged on, and Noreika quizzed the lawyers from both >>>>>>> sides about the particulars of the tax deal, she sussed out a
    disagreement between the parties on a critical question: Did the >>>>>>> deal protect Hunter from possibly facing additional charges for
    illegal foreign lobbying, known as FARA (The Foreign Agents
    Registration Act)? The Justice Department said no, but Hunter
    Biden’s team thought yes.'

    The diversion agreement only pertains to gun-related charges:

    'The United States agrees not to criminally prosecute Biden,
    outside of the terms of this Agreement, for any federal crimes
    encompassed by the attached Statement of Facts (Attachment A) and >>>>>>> the Statement of Facts attached as Exhibit 1'

    <https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23888015/diversion-agreement-attachment-a_1-scrubbed.pdf>



    There is literally nothing in the statement of facts concerning any >>>>>>> charges under FARA or anything at all except the gun charge.
    NOPE, as noted above, Fool.






    The bottom line of this ENTIRE MESS is that the Judge REJECTED this
    shitty plea agreement, along with the absurd immunity deal, and sent >>>>> these fools back to the drawing board, forcing BooBoo to plead
    innocent and face trial on MULTIPLE FELONIES.

    <https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23888608/transcript-of-july-26-2023-hearing.pdf>

    There's the court transcript, Sunshine.

    Quote the part where the judge rejects the deal.

    :-)

    Where does it say she is going to accept the agreement?
    Sorry, Sunshine.

    But you claim she "REJECTED" the agreement.

    So produce the quote.

    She did - as presented.

    And yet you cannot produce the quote.

    Got it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Jul 31 08:28:34 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 8:07:55 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-31 07:35, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 9:42:23 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-30 21:20, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 9:16:17 PM UTC-7, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 4:19:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-30 10:28, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:52:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:33:21 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:24:18 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:19, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 11:40:33 AM UTC-7,
    Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 11:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:37:08 AM
    UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 10:25, Tommy wrote:

    Furthermore, BooBoo never paid the back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taxes himself - a lawyer by the name of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kevin Morris did. The question is, what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is in it for Morris? On top of that,
    BooBoo called that money from Morris a
    "loan," otherwise it would be a gift
    and he would owe taxes on the gift.
    What are the terms of the loan, how
    much, how often and what interest does
    BooBoo have to pay Morris? If this
    isn't specified then it is a gift and
    BooBoo is guilty of addition tax laws.
    https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-kevin-morris-rips-bong-as-first-son-visits-la-home/














    https://nypost.com/2022/05/08/hollywood-lawyer-kevin-morris-paid-off-over-2m-of-hunter-bidens-taxes/
    An anonymous source made that claim...

    ...more than two months ago.

    And there's still no substantiation for
    it.

    BooBoo said that he took out a loan to pay
    his taxes; WHO gave him that loan? And the
    same thing applies: if that "loan" is in
    reality a gift BooBoo owes taxes on the
    gift.
    You don't pay taxes on gifts, Sunshine.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html












    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-guilty-plea-agreement-tax-investigation/
    "The two misdemeanor tax charges relate to
    his willful failure to pay taxes for 2017
    and 2018. A filing indicates Hunter Biden
    had more than $1.5 million in income each
    year. He has since fully repaid back taxes
    and fines, including $2 million reportedly
    paid to the federal government last year,
    with the help of a loan from his personal
    attorney."
    Again:

    A month old.

    No source provided.

    Hey Fool, because that was WHEN BooBoo "paid"
    his taxes (although he pay them, Morris did).
    You still haven't provided any proof of that.

    And now the immunity deal is off the table and
    BooBoo and the crooked attorneys are going to
    have to dream up a new deal. He has more tax
    charges he is facing AND the FARA violation.
    And this IS NOT a "slap on the wrist" offense
    (https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara/recent-cases): >>>>>>>>>>>>>

    There was NO "immunity deal".

    When he was getting ready to enter his plea, the
    judge asked if he was getting immunity from
    other investigations that might result in charges >>>>>>>>>>>>> and the judge was told "NO".

    "Manafort failed to register under FARA as an
    agent of the Government of Ukraine, the
    Ukrainian Party of Regions, and former
    Ukrainian President Yanukovych. Manafort was
    sentenced to 73 months’ imprisonment, including >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the statutory maximum 60 months for the
    conspiracy to violate FARA (Manafort is due to
    serve an additional 17 months stemming from his >>>>>>>>>>>>>> conviction in the Eastern District of
    Virginia)."
    Whataboutism.

    Note that BooBoo was being paid, at least,
    $83,000 a month by Burisma to lobby Papa Lyin'
    Joe. In reality, he and his firm were paid
    MILLIONS by Burisma:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-shows-firm-took-11-million-2013-2018-rcna29462








    There is no proof that that was actually a true copy of any laptop >>>>>>>>>>>>> owned by Biden.

    Since you like NBC News now, here's another story >>>>>>>>>>>>> they wrote:

    'Trump and his allies say there is evidence of
    corruption in emails and documents allegedly
    found on a laptop belonging to Democrat Joe
    Biden’s son. They say those and other documents >>>>>>>>>>>>> show that Hunter Biden used his father’s
    influence to enrich himself through business
    deals in Ukraine and China, and that his father
    not only facilitated that, but may have benefited >>>>>>>>>>>>> financially.

    But the Wall Street Journal and Fox News — among >>>>>>>>>>>>> the only news organizations that have been given
    access to key documents — found that the emails >>>>>>>>>>>>> and other records don’t make that case. Leaving >>>>>>>>>>>>> aside the many questions about their provenance,
    the materials offered no evidence that Joe Biden
    played any role in his son’s dealings in China, >>>>>>>>>>>>> let alone profited from them, both news
    organizations concluded.'

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/here-s-what-happened-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533>








    Hey Fool, it is NOT my duty to provide "proof" of ANYTHING as I am >>>>>>>>>>>> NOT a prosecutor - I am just reporting the facts.
    Nope. You're reporting ASSERTIONS as IF they were
    facts.
    You don't seem to grasp the difference. The Lyin'
    Biden crime family is clearly disintegrating as the >>>>>>>>>>>> facts come out. I think that even you acknowledge
    that BooBoo's laptop is legitimate - which you
    DENIED for YEARS. BooBoo has gone from untouchable
    to having to face trial for felonies.
    Sorry, but that's not what I said.

    All we know is that Giuliani handed someone a hard
    drive he CLAIMED was a copy of the drive in a laptop
    he claimed was Hunter Biden's.

    Hey Fool, they ARE facts. BooBoo DID dodge millions in
    taxes that he is being prosecuted for. He DID lie on
    his gun application form that he is also being
    prosecuted for. He DID commit FARA violations which he
    SHOULD be prosecuted for. Lyin' Biden DID know about
    his business dealings despite his lies to the
    contrary.
    Sorry, but the FARA thing is NOT a fact. It is an
    assertion.

    Joe Biden knowing about his business dealings is also an
    assertion.

    This is the BIGEST political scandal EVER for the US
    which is why they are so desperate to keep Trump out of >>>>>>>>>> office.
    Well the 74 felonies for which there really ARE tons of
    facts (some straight from Trump himself) will probably
    take care of that.

    No Fool, BooBoo ADMITTED to being paid by Burisma (making
    it PROVEN) with the sole purpose of influencing his
    father.
    Sorry, but he never hid that he worked for Burisma.

    "with the sole purpose of influencing his father" is
    complete speculation without any corroboration.

    :-)

    What he hid was WHY he worked for Burisma, which was strictly
    influence peddling.
    You have literally no evidence that that is "WHY" he worked for
    Burisma
    You have literally no evidence of WHY BooBoo was hired by Burisma.
    It certainly WAS NOT because of his "knowledge" of the energy
    industry.
    And Lyin' Biden followed thru by getting the Ukrainian
    prosecutor fired, which he GLOATED about ON AIR!
    Getting Shokin fired was US policy...
    Right - AFTER Burisma paid Lyin' Biden MILLIONS!


    ...supported by the Republicans...

    Note: you provided ZERO evidence of this.

    ...because (among other things)...

    ...he was NOT investigating Burisma.
    Fact: Shokin WAS investigating Burisma - that is why they wanted
    him fired.

    And the immunity deal was buried in the Diversion Agreement by
    the prosecutors:
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/hunter-biden-plea-agreement/story?id=101718321#:~:text=Prosecutors%20included%20details%20about%20Hunter,of%20facts%20for%20the%20plea


    'But as things dragged on, and Noreika quizzed the lawyers from both >>>>> sides about the particulars of the tax deal, she sussed out a
    disagreement between the parties on a critical question: Did the
    deal protect Hunter from possibly facing additional charges for
    illegal foreign lobbying, known as FARA (The Foreign Agents
    Registration Act)? The Justice Department said no, but Hunter
    Biden’s team thought yes.'

    The diversion agreement only pertains to gun-related charges:

    'The United States agrees not to criminally prosecute Biden,
    outside of the terms of this Agreement, for any federal crimes
    encompassed by the attached Statement of Facts (Attachment A) and >>>>> the Statement of Facts attached as Exhibit 1'

    <https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23888015/diversion-agreement-attachment-a_1-scrubbed.pdf>



    There is literally nothing in the statement of facts concerning any >>>>> charges under FARA or anything at all except the gun charge.
    NOPE, as noted above, Fool.






    The bottom line of this ENTIRE MESS is that the Judge REJECTED this
    shitty plea agreement, along with the absurd immunity deal, and sent
    these fools back to the drawing board, forcing BooBoo to plead
    innocent and face trial on MULTIPLE FELONIES.

    <https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23888608/transcript-of-july-26-2023-hearing.pdf>

    There's the court transcript, Sunshine.

    Quote the part where the judge rejects the deal.

    :-)

    Where does it say she is going to accept the agreement?
    Sorry, Sunshine.

    But you claim she "REJECTED" the agreement.

    So produce the quote.

    She did - as presented.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Aug 1 18:40:03 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 8:34:34 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-31 08:28, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 8:07:55 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-31 07:35, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 9:42:23 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-30 21:20, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 9:16:17 PM UTC-7, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 4:19:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-30 10:28, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:52:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2023-07-29 17:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:33:21 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:24:18 PM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:19, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 11:40:33 AM UTC-7, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 11:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:37:08 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 10:25, Tommy wrote:

    Furthermore, BooBoo never paid the back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taxes himself - a lawyer by the name of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kevin Morris did. The question is, what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is in it for Morris? On top of that, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BooBoo called that money from Morris a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "loan," otherwise it would be a gift >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and he would owe taxes on the gift. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What are the terms of the loan, how >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much, how often and what interest does >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BooBoo have to pay Morris? If this
    isn't specified then it is a gift and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BooBoo is guilty of addition tax laws. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-kevin-morris-rips-bong-as-first-son-visits-la-home/














    https://nypost.com/2022/05/08/hollywood-lawyer-kevin-morris-paid-off-over-2m-of-hunter-bidens-taxes/
    An anonymous source made that claim... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    ...more than two months ago.

    And there's still no substantiation for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.

    BooBoo said that he took out a loan to pay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his taxes; WHO gave him that loan? And the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same thing applies: if that "loan" is in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reality a gift BooBoo owes taxes on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gift.
    You don't pay taxes on gifts, Sunshine.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html












    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-guilty-plea-agreement-tax-investigation/
    "The two misdemeanor tax charges relate to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his willful failure to pay taxes for 2017 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 2018. A filing indicates Hunter Biden >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had more than $1.5 million in income each >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> year. He has since fully repaid back taxes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and fines, including $2 million reportedly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paid to the federal government last year, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the help of a loan from his personal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attorney."
    Again:

    A month old.

    No source provided.

    Hey Fool, because that was WHEN BooBoo "paid" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his taxes (although he pay them, Morris did). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You still haven't provided any proof of that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And now the immunity deal is off the table and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BooBoo and the crooked attorneys are going to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to dream up a new deal. He has more tax >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charges he is facing AND the FARA violation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And this IS NOT a "slap on the wrist" offense >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara/recent-cases): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    There was NO "immunity deal".

    When he was getting ready to enter his plea, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> judge asked if he was getting immunity from
    other investigations that might result in charges >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the judge was told "NO".

    "Manafort failed to register under FARA as an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agent of the Government of Ukraine, the
    Ukrainian Party of Regions, and former
    Ukrainian President Yanukovych. Manafort was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sentenced to 73 months’ imprisonment, including >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the statutory maximum 60 months for the
    conspiracy to violate FARA (Manafort is due to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serve an additional 17 months stemming from his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conviction in the Eastern District of
    Virginia)."
    Whataboutism.

    Note that BooBoo was being paid, at least,
    $83,000 a month by Burisma to lobby Papa Lyin' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe. In reality, he and his firm were paid
    MILLIONS by Burisma:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-shows-firm-took-11-million-2013-2018-rcna29462








    There is no proof that that was actually a true copy of any laptop >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owned by Biden.

    Since you like NBC News now, here's another story >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they wrote:

    'Trump and his allies say there is evidence of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corruption in emails and documents allegedly
    found on a laptop belonging to Democrat Joe
    Biden’s son. They say those and other documents >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show that Hunter Biden used his father’s
    influence to enrich himself through business
    deals in Ukraine and China, and that his father >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not only facilitated that, but may have benefited >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> financially.

    But the Wall Street Journal and Fox News — among >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the only news organizations that have been given >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> access to key documents — found that the emails >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and other records don’t make that case. Leaving >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aside the many questions about their provenance, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the materials offered no evidence that Joe Biden >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> played any role in his son’s dealings in China, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let alone profited from them, both news
    organizations concluded.'

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/here-s-what-happened-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533>








    Hey Fool, it is NOT my duty to provide "proof" of ANYTHING as I am >>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOT a prosecutor - I am just reporting the facts. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. You're reporting ASSERTIONS as IF they were >>>>>>>>>>>>> facts.
    You don't seem to grasp the difference. The Lyin' >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biden crime family is clearly disintegrating as the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> facts come out. I think that even you acknowledge >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that BooBoo's laptop is legitimate - which you
    DENIED for YEARS. BooBoo has gone from untouchable >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to having to face trial for felonies.
    Sorry, but that's not what I said.

    All we know is that Giuliani handed someone a hard >>>>>>>>>>>>> drive he CLAIMED was a copy of the drive in a laptop >>>>>>>>>>>>> he claimed was Hunter Biden's.

    Hey Fool, they ARE facts. BooBoo DID dodge millions in >>>>>>>>>>>> taxes that he is being prosecuted for. He DID lie on >>>>>>>>>>>> his gun application form that he is also being
    prosecuted for. He DID commit FARA violations which he >>>>>>>>>>>> SHOULD be prosecuted for. Lyin' Biden DID know about >>>>>>>>>>>> his business dealings despite his lies to the
    contrary.
    Sorry, but the FARA thing is NOT a fact. It is an
    assertion.

    Joe Biden knowing about his business dealings is also an >>>>>>>>>>> assertion.

    This is the BIGEST political scandal EVER for the US >>>>>>>>>>>> which is why they are so desperate to keep Trump out of >>>>>>>>>>>> office.
    Well the 74 felonies for which there really ARE tons of >>>>>>>>>>> facts (some straight from Trump himself) will probably >>>>>>>>>>> take care of that.

    No Fool, BooBoo ADMITTED to being paid by Burisma (making >>>>>>>>>> it PROVEN) with the sole purpose of influencing his
    father.
    Sorry, but he never hid that he worked for Burisma.

    "with the sole purpose of influencing his father" is
    complete speculation without any corroboration.

    :-)

    What he hid was WHY he worked for Burisma, which was strictly >>>>>>>> influence peddling.
    You have literally no evidence that that is "WHY" he worked for >>>>>>> Burisma
    You have literally no evidence of WHY BooBoo was hired by Burisma. >>>>>> It certainly WAS NOT because of his "knowledge" of the energy
    industry.
    And Lyin' Biden followed thru by getting the Ukrainian
    prosecutor fired, which he GLOATED about ON AIR!
    Getting Shokin fired was US policy...
    Right - AFTER Burisma paid Lyin' Biden MILLIONS!


    ...supported by the Republicans...

    Note: you provided ZERO evidence of this.

    ...because (among other things)...

    ...he was NOT investigating Burisma.
    Fact: Shokin WAS investigating Burisma - that is why they wanted >>>>>> him fired.

    And the immunity deal was buried in the Diversion Agreement by >>>>>>>> the prosecutors:
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/hunter-biden-plea-agreement/story?id=101718321#:~:text=Prosecutors%20included%20details%20about%20Hunter,of%20facts%20for%20the%20plea


    'But as things dragged on, and Noreika quizzed the lawyers from both >>>>>>> sides about the particulars of the tax deal, she sussed out a >>>>>>> disagreement between the parties on a critical question: Did the >>>>>>> deal protect Hunter from possibly facing additional charges for >>>>>>> illegal foreign lobbying, known as FARA (The Foreign Agents
    Registration Act)? The Justice Department said no, but Hunter >>>>>>> Biden’s team thought yes.'

    The diversion agreement only pertains to gun-related charges: >>>>>>>
    'The United States agrees not to criminally prosecute Biden,
    outside of the terms of this Agreement, for any federal crimes >>>>>>> encompassed by the attached Statement of Facts (Attachment A) and >>>>>>> the Statement of Facts attached as Exhibit 1'

    <https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23888015/diversion-agreement-attachment-a_1-scrubbed.pdf>



    There is literally nothing in the statement of facts concerning any >>>>>>> charges under FARA or anything at all except the gun charge.
    NOPE, as noted above, Fool.






    The bottom line of this ENTIRE MESS is that the Judge REJECTED this >>>>> shitty plea agreement, along with the absurd immunity deal, and sent >>>>> these fools back to the drawing board, forcing BooBoo to plead
    innocent and face trial on MULTIPLE FELONIES.

    <https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23888608/transcript-of-july-26-2023-hearing.pdf>

    There's the court transcript, Sunshine.

    Quote the part where the judge rejects the deal.

    :-)

    Where does it say she is going to accept the agreement?
    Sorry, Sunshine.

    But you claim she "REJECTED" the agreement.

    So produce the quote.

    She did - as presented.
    And yet you cannot produce the quote.

    Got it.

    Was this fucked up plea deal accepted, YES OR NO?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Tue Aug 1 18:54:44 2023
    On 2023-08-01 18:40, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 8:34:34 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-31 08:28, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 8:07:55 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-31 07:35, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 9:42:23 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-30 21:20, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 9:16:17 PM UTC-7, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 4:19:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-30 10:28, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:52:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-07-29 17:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:33:21 PM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:24:18 PM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:19, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 11:40:33 AM UTC-7, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 11:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:37:08 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 10:25, Tommy wrote:

    Furthermore, BooBoo never paid the back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taxes himself - a lawyer by the name of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kevin Morris did. The question is, what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is in it for Morris? On top of that, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BooBoo called that money from Morris a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "loan," otherwise it would be a gift >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and he would owe taxes on the gift. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What are the terms of the loan, how >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much, how often and what interest does >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BooBoo have to pay Morris? If this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't specified then it is a gift and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BooBoo is guilty of addition tax laws. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-kevin-morris-rips-bong-as-first-son-visits-la-home/














    https://nypost.com/2022/05/08/hollywood-lawyer-kevin-morris-paid-off-over-2m-of-hunter-bidens-taxes/
    An anonymous source made that claim... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    ...more than two months ago.

    And there's still no substantiation for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.

    BooBoo said that he took out a loan to pay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his taxes; WHO gave him that loan? And the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same thing applies: if that "loan" is in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reality a gift BooBoo owes taxes on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gift.
    You don't pay taxes on gifts, Sunshine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html












    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-guilty-plea-agreement-tax-investigation/
    "The two misdemeanor tax charges relate to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his willful failure to pay taxes for 2017 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 2018. A filing indicates Hunter Biden >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had more than $1.5 million in income each >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> year. He has since fully repaid back taxes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and fines, including $2 million reportedly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paid to the federal government last year, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the help of a loan from his personal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attorney."
    Again:

    A month old.

    No source provided.

    Hey Fool, because that was WHEN BooBoo "paid" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his taxes (although he pay them, Morris did). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You still haven't provided any proof of that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And now the immunity deal is off the table and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BooBoo and the crooked attorneys are going to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to dream up a new deal. He has more tax >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charges he is facing AND the FARA violation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And this IS NOT a "slap on the wrist" offense >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara/recent-cases): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    There was NO "immunity deal".

    When he was getting ready to enter his plea, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> judge asked if he was getting immunity from
    other investigations that might result in charges >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the judge was told "NO".

    "Manafort failed to register under FARA as an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agent of the Government of Ukraine, the
    Ukrainian Party of Regions, and former
    Ukrainian President Yanukovych. Manafort was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sentenced to 73 months’ imprisonment, including >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the statutory maximum 60 months for the
    conspiracy to violate FARA (Manafort is due to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serve an additional 17 months stemming from his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conviction in the Eastern District of
    Virginia)."
    Whataboutism.

    Note that BooBoo was being paid, at least, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $83,000 a month by Burisma to lobby Papa Lyin' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe. In reality, he and his firm were paid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MILLIONS by Burisma:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-shows-firm-took-11-million-2013-2018-rcna29462








    There is no proof that that was actually a true copy of any laptop >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owned by Biden.

    Since you like NBC News now, here's another story >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they wrote:

    'Trump and his allies say there is evidence of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corruption in emails and documents allegedly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> found on a laptop belonging to Democrat Joe
    Biden’s son. They say those and other documents >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show that Hunter Biden used his father’s
    influence to enrich himself through business >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deals in Ukraine and China, and that his father >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not only facilitated that, but may have benefited >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> financially.

    But the Wall Street Journal and Fox News — among >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the only news organizations that have been given >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> access to key documents — found that the emails >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and other records don’t make that case. Leaving >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aside the many questions about their provenance, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the materials offered no evidence that Joe Biden >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> played any role in his son’s dealings in China, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let alone profited from them, both news
    organizations concluded.'

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/here-s-what-happened-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533>








    Hey Fool, it is NOT my duty to provide "proof" of ANYTHING as I am >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOT a prosecutor - I am just reporting the facts. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. You're reporting ASSERTIONS as IF they were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facts.
    You don't seem to grasp the difference. The Lyin' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biden crime family is clearly disintegrating as the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facts come out. I think that even you acknowledge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that BooBoo's laptop is legitimate - which you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DENIED for YEARS. BooBoo has gone from untouchable >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to having to face trial for felonies.
    Sorry, but that's not what I said.

    All we know is that Giuliani handed someone a hard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive he CLAIMED was a copy of the drive in a laptop >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he claimed was Hunter Biden's.

    Hey Fool, they ARE facts. BooBoo DID dodge millions in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> taxes that he is being prosecuted for. He DID lie on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> his gun application form that he is also being
    prosecuted for. He DID commit FARA violations which he >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SHOULD be prosecuted for. Lyin' Biden DID know about >>>>>>>>>>>>>> his business dealings despite his lies to the
    contrary.
    Sorry, but the FARA thing is NOT a fact. It is an
    assertion.

    Joe Biden knowing about his business dealings is also an >>>>>>>>>>>>> assertion.

    This is the BIGEST political scandal EVER for the US >>>>>>>>>>>>>> which is why they are so desperate to keep Trump out of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> office.
    Well the 74 felonies for which there really ARE tons of >>>>>>>>>>>>> facts (some straight from Trump himself) will probably >>>>>>>>>>>>> take care of that.

    No Fool, BooBoo ADMITTED to being paid by Burisma (making >>>>>>>>>>>> it PROVEN) with the sole purpose of influencing his
    father.
    Sorry, but he never hid that he worked for Burisma.

    "with the sole purpose of influencing his father" is
    complete speculation without any corroboration.

    :-)

    What he hid was WHY he worked for Burisma, which was strictly >>>>>>>>>> influence peddling.
    You have literally no evidence that that is "WHY" he worked for >>>>>>>>> Burisma
    You have literally no evidence of WHY BooBoo was hired by Burisma. >>>>>>>> It certainly WAS NOT because of his "knowledge" of the energy
    industry.
    And Lyin' Biden followed thru by getting the Ukrainian
    prosecutor fired, which he GLOATED about ON AIR!
    Getting Shokin fired was US policy...
    Right - AFTER Burisma paid Lyin' Biden MILLIONS!


    ...supported by the Republicans...

    Note: you provided ZERO evidence of this.

    ...because (among other things)...

    ...he was NOT investigating Burisma.
    Fact: Shokin WAS investigating Burisma - that is why they wanted >>>>>>>> him fired.

    And the immunity deal was buried in the Diversion Agreement by >>>>>>>>>> the prosecutors:
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/hunter-biden-plea-agreement/story?id=101718321#:~:text=Prosecutors%20included%20details%20about%20Hunter,of%20facts%20for%20the%20plea


    'But as things dragged on, and Noreika quizzed the lawyers from both >>>>>>>>> sides about the particulars of the tax deal, she sussed out a >>>>>>>>> disagreement between the parties on a critical question: Did the >>>>>>>>> deal protect Hunter from possibly facing additional charges for >>>>>>>>> illegal foreign lobbying, known as FARA (The Foreign Agents
    Registration Act)? The Justice Department said no, but Hunter >>>>>>>>> Biden’s team thought yes.'

    The diversion agreement only pertains to gun-related charges: >>>>>>>>>
    'The United States agrees not to criminally prosecute Biden, >>>>>>>>> outside of the terms of this Agreement, for any federal crimes >>>>>>>>> encompassed by the attached Statement of Facts (Attachment A) and >>>>>>>>> the Statement of Facts attached as Exhibit 1'

    <https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23888015/diversion-agreement-attachment-a_1-scrubbed.pdf>



    There is literally nothing in the statement of facts concerning any >>>>>>>>> charges under FARA or anything at all except the gun charge.
    NOPE, as noted above, Fool.






    The bottom line of this ENTIRE MESS is that the Judge REJECTED this >>>>>>> shitty plea agreement, along with the absurd immunity deal, and sent >>>>>>> these fools back to the drawing board, forcing BooBoo to plead
    innocent and face trial on MULTIPLE FELONIES.

    <https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23888608/transcript-of-july-26-2023-hearing.pdf>

    There's the court transcript, Sunshine.

    Quote the part where the judge rejects the deal.

    :-)

    Where does it say she is going to accept the agreement?
    Sorry, Sunshine.

    But you claim she "REJECTED" the agreement.

    So produce the quote.

    She did - as presented.
    And yet you cannot produce the quote.

    Got it.

    Was this fucked up plea deal accepted, YES OR NO?

    You claimed the deal was rejected by the judge.

    Learn from your earlier mistake about "file:///" links and just admit
    you were wrong.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Aug 9 23:00:46 2023
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 6:54:48 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-01 18:40, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 8:34:34 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-31 08:28, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 8:07:55 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-31 07:35, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 9:42:23 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-30 21:20, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 9:16:17 PM UTC-7, Tommy wrote: >>>>>>>> On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 4:19:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2023-07-30 10:28, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:52:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-07-29 17:39, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:33:21 PM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 5:24:18 PM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 17:19, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 11:40:33 AM UTC-7, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 11:30, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:37:08 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-29 10:25, Tommy wrote:

    Furthermore, BooBoo never paid the back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taxes himself - a lawyer by the name of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kevin Morris did. The question is, what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is in it for Morris? On top of that, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BooBoo called that money from Morris a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "loan," otherwise it would be a gift >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and he would owe taxes on the gift. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What are the terms of the loan, how >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much, how often and what interest does >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BooBoo have to pay Morris? If this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't specified then it is a gift and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BooBoo is guilty of addition tax laws. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-kevin-morris-rips-bong-as-first-son-visits-la-home/














    https://nypost.com/2022/05/08/hollywood-lawyer-kevin-morris-paid-off-over-2m-of-hunter-bidens-taxes/
    An anonymous source made that claim... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    ...more than two months ago.

    And there's still no substantiation for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.

    BooBoo said that he took out a loan to pay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his taxes; WHO gave him that loan? And the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same thing applies: if that "loan" is in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reality a gift BooBoo owes taxes on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gift.
    You don't pay taxes on gifts, Sunshine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html












    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-guilty-plea-agreement-tax-investigation/
    "The two misdemeanor tax charges relate to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his willful failure to pay taxes for 2017 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 2018. A filing indicates Hunter Biden >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had more than $1.5 million in income each >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> year. He has since fully repaid back taxes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and fines, including $2 million reportedly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paid to the federal government last year, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the help of a loan from his personal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attorney."
    Again:

    A month old.

    No source provided.

    Hey Fool, because that was WHEN BooBoo "paid" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his taxes (although he pay them, Morris did). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You still haven't provided any proof of that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And now the immunity deal is off the table and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BooBoo and the crooked attorneys are going to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to dream up a new deal. He has more tax >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charges he is facing AND the FARA violation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And this IS NOT a "slap on the wrist" offense >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara/recent-cases): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    There was NO "immunity deal".

    When he was getting ready to enter his plea, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> judge asked if he was getting immunity from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other investigations that might result in charges >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the judge was told "NO".

    "Manafort failed to register under FARA as an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agent of the Government of Ukraine, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ukrainian Party of Regions, and former
    Ukrainian President Yanukovych. Manafort was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sentenced to 73 months’ imprisonment, including >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the statutory maximum 60 months for the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conspiracy to violate FARA (Manafort is due to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serve an additional 17 months stemming from his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conviction in the Eastern District of
    Virginia)."
    Whataboutism.

    Note that BooBoo was being paid, at least, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $83,000 a month by Burisma to lobby Papa Lyin' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe. In reality, he and his firm were paid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MILLIONS by Burisma:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-shows-firm-took-11-million-2013-2018-rcna29462








    There is no proof that that was actually a true copy of any laptop >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owned by Biden.

    Since you like NBC News now, here's another story >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they wrote:

    'Trump and his allies say there is evidence of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corruption in emails and documents allegedly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> found on a laptop belonging to Democrat Joe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biden’s son. They say those and other documents >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show that Hunter Biden used his father’s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> influence to enrich himself through business >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deals in Ukraine and China, and that his father >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not only facilitated that, but may have benefited >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> financially.

    But the Wall Street Journal and Fox News — among >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the only news organizations that have been given >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> access to key documents — found that the emails >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and other records don’t make that case. Leaving >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aside the many questions about their provenance, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the materials offered no evidence that Joe Biden >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> played any role in his son’s dealings in China, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let alone profited from them, both news
    organizations concluded.'

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/here-s-what-happened-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533>








    Hey Fool, it is NOT my duty to provide "proof" of ANYTHING as I am >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOT a prosecutor - I am just reporting the facts. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. You're reporting ASSERTIONS as IF they were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facts.
    You don't seem to grasp the difference. The Lyin' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biden crime family is clearly disintegrating as the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facts come out. I think that even you acknowledge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that BooBoo's laptop is legitimate - which you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DENIED for YEARS. BooBoo has gone from untouchable >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to having to face trial for felonies.
    Sorry, but that's not what I said.

    All we know is that Giuliani handed someone a hard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive he CLAIMED was a copy of the drive in a laptop >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he claimed was Hunter Biden's.

    Hey Fool, they ARE facts. BooBoo DID dodge millions in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> taxes that he is being prosecuted for. He DID lie on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> his gun application form that he is also being
    prosecuted for. He DID commit FARA violations which he >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SHOULD be prosecuted for. Lyin' Biden DID know about >>>>>>>>>>>>>> his business dealings despite his lies to the
    contrary.
    Sorry, but the FARA thing is NOT a fact. It is an >>>>>>>>>>>>> assertion.

    Joe Biden knowing about his business dealings is also an >>>>>>>>>>>>> assertion.

    This is the BIGEST political scandal EVER for the US >>>>>>>>>>>>>> which is why they are so desperate to keep Trump out of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> office.
    Well the 74 felonies for which there really ARE tons of >>>>>>>>>>>>> facts (some straight from Trump himself) will probably >>>>>>>>>>>>> take care of that.

    No Fool, BooBoo ADMITTED to being paid by Burisma (making >>>>>>>>>>>> it PROVEN) with the sole purpose of influencing his >>>>>>>>>>>> father.
    Sorry, but he never hid that he worked for Burisma.

    "with the sole purpose of influencing his father" is
    complete speculation without any corroboration.

    :-)

    What he hid was WHY he worked for Burisma, which was strictly >>>>>>>>>> influence peddling.
    You have literally no evidence that that is "WHY" he worked for >>>>>>>>> Burisma
    You have literally no evidence of WHY BooBoo was hired by Burisma. >>>>>>>> It certainly WAS NOT because of his "knowledge" of the energy >>>>>>>> industry.
    And Lyin' Biden followed thru by getting the Ukrainian
    prosecutor fired, which he GLOATED about ON AIR!
    Getting Shokin fired was US policy...
    Right - AFTER Burisma paid Lyin' Biden MILLIONS!


    ...supported by the Republicans...

    Note: you provided ZERO evidence of this.

    ...because (among other things)...

    ...he was NOT investigating Burisma.
    Fact: Shokin WAS investigating Burisma - that is why they wanted >>>>>>>> him fired.

    And the immunity deal was buried in the Diversion Agreement by >>>>>>>>>> the prosecutors:
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/hunter-biden-plea-agreement/story?id=101718321#:~:text=Prosecutors%20included%20details%20about%20Hunter,of%20facts%20for%20the%20plea


    'But as things dragged on, and Noreika quizzed the lawyers from both
    sides about the particulars of the tax deal, she sussed out a >>>>>>>>> disagreement between the parties on a critical question: Did the >>>>>>>>> deal protect Hunter from possibly facing additional charges for >>>>>>>>> illegal foreign lobbying, known as FARA (The Foreign Agents >>>>>>>>> Registration Act)? The Justice Department said no, but Hunter >>>>>>>>> Biden’s team thought yes.'

    The diversion agreement only pertains to gun-related charges: >>>>>>>>>
    'The United States agrees not to criminally prosecute Biden, >>>>>>>>> outside of the terms of this Agreement, for any federal crimes >>>>>>>>> encompassed by the attached Statement of Facts (Attachment A) and >>>>>>>>> the Statement of Facts attached as Exhibit 1'

    <https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23888015/diversion-agreement-attachment-a_1-scrubbed.pdf>



    There is literally nothing in the statement of facts concerning any
    charges under FARA or anything at all except the gun charge. >>>>>>>> NOPE, as noted above, Fool.






    The bottom line of this ENTIRE MESS is that the Judge REJECTED this >>>>>>> shitty plea agreement, along with the absurd immunity deal, and sent >>>>>>> these fools back to the drawing board, forcing BooBoo to plead >>>>>>> innocent and face trial on MULTIPLE FELONIES.

    <https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23888608/transcript-of-july-26-2023-hearing.pdf>

    There's the court transcript, Sunshine.

    Quote the part where the judge rejects the deal.

    :-)

    Where does it say she is going to accept the agreement?
    Sorry, Sunshine.

    But you claim she "REJECTED" the agreement.

    So produce the quote.

    She did - as presented.
    And yet you cannot produce the quote.

    Got it.

    Was this fucked up plea deal accepted, YES OR NO?
    You claimed the deal was rejected by the judge.

    Learn from your earlier mistake about "file:///" links and just admit
    you were wrong.

    Hey Bozo, the deal WAS rejected by the judge. If you disagree, show me where the deal was ACCEPTED by the judge.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Wed Aug 9 23:07:25 2023
    On 2023-08-09 23:00, Tommy wrote:

    <https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23888608/transcript-of-july-26-2023-hearing.pdf>

    There's the court transcript, Sunshine.

    Quote the part where the judge rejects the deal.

    :-)

    Where does it say she is going to accept the agreement?
    Sorry, Sunshine.

    But you claim she "REJECTED" the agreement.

    So produce the quote.

    She did - as presented.
    And yet you cannot produce the quote.

    Got it.

    Was this fucked up plea deal accepted, YES OR NO?
    You claimed the deal was rejected by the judge.

    Learn from your earlier mistake about "file:///" links and just admit
    you were wrong.

    Hey Bozo, the deal WAS rejected by the judge. If you disagree, show me where the deal was ACCEPTED by the judge.

    You claim it was rejected...

    ...so YOU show the quote.

    You can't...can you, Sunshine?

    -)

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu Aug 10 10:48:03 2023
    On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 11:07:28 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-09 23:00, Tommy wrote:

    <https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23888608/transcript-of-july-26-2023-hearing.pdf>

    There's the court transcript, Sunshine.

    Quote the part where the judge rejects the deal.

    :-)

    Where does it say she is going to accept the agreement?
    Sorry, Sunshine.

    But you claim she "REJECTED" the agreement.

    So produce the quote.

    She did - as presented.
    And yet you cannot produce the quote.

    Got it.

    Was this fucked up plea deal accepted, YES OR NO?
    You claimed the deal was rejected by the judge.

    Learn from your earlier mistake about "file:///" links and just admit
    you were wrong.

    Hey Bozo, the deal WAS rejected by the judge. If you disagree, show me where the deal was ACCEPTED by the judge.
    You claim it was rejected...

    ...so YOU show the quote.

    You can't...can you, Sunshine?

    -)

    Oh, go fuck yourself! It WAS rejected and BooBoo and his slimy lawyers KNOW IT!! One even said the deal was RIPPED UP!!!

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Thu Aug 10 12:53:48 2023
    On 2023-08-10 10:48, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 11:07:28 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-09 23:00, Tommy wrote:

    <https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23888608/transcript-of-july-26-2023-hearing.pdf>



    There's the court transcript, Sunshine.

    Quote the part where the judge rejects the deal.

    :-)

    Where does it say she is going to accept the
    agreement?
    Sorry, Sunshine.

    But you claim she "REJECTED" the agreement.

    So produce the quote.

    She did - as presented.
    And yet you cannot produce the quote.

    Got it.

    Was this fucked up plea deal accepted, YES OR NO?
    You claimed the deal was rejected by the judge.

    Learn from your earlier mistake about "file:///" links and just
    admit you were wrong.

    Hey Bozo, the deal WAS rejected by the judge. If you disagree,
    show me where the deal was ACCEPTED by the judge.
    You claim it was rejected...

    ...so YOU show the quote.

    You can't...can you, Sunshine?

    -)

    Oh, go fuck yourself! It WAS rejected and BooBoo and his slimy
    lawyers KNOW IT!! One even said the deal was RIPPED UP!!!


    "one said" that, huh?

    Let's see it.

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu Aug 10 17:42:11 2023
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 12:53:52 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 10:48, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 11:07:28 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-09 23:00, Tommy wrote:

    <https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23888608/transcript-of-july-26-2023-hearing.pdf>



    There's the court transcript, Sunshine.

    Quote the part where the judge rejects the deal.

    :-)

    Where does it say she is going to accept the
    agreement?
    Sorry, Sunshine.

    But you claim she "REJECTED" the agreement.

    So produce the quote.

    She did - as presented.
    And yet you cannot produce the quote.

    Got it.

    Was this fucked up plea deal accepted, YES OR NO?
    You claimed the deal was rejected by the judge.

    Learn from your earlier mistake about "file:///" links and just
    admit you were wrong.

    Hey Bozo, the deal WAS rejected by the judge. If you disagree,
    show me where the deal was ACCEPTED by the judge.
    You claim it was rejected...

    ...so YOU show the quote.

    You can't...can you, Sunshine?

    -)

    Oh, go fuck yourself! It WAS rejected and BooBoo and his slimy
    lawyers KNOW IT!! One even said the deal was RIPPED UP!!!
    "one said" that, huh?

    Let's see it.

    I'm NOT your errand boy, jerk - look it up for yourself.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Tommy on Thu Aug 10 18:06:50 2023
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 8:42:14 PM UTC-4, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 12:53:52 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 10:48, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 11:07:28 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-09 23:00, Tommy wrote:

    <https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23888608/transcript-of-july-26-2023-hearing.pdf>



    There's the court transcript, Sunshine.

    Quote the part where the judge rejects the deal.

    :-)

    Where does it say she is going to accept the
    agreement?
    Sorry, Sunshine.

    But you claim she "REJECTED" the agreement.

    So produce the quote.

    She did - as presented.
    And yet you cannot produce the quote.

    Got it.

    Was this fucked up plea deal accepted, YES OR NO?
    You claimed the deal was rejected by the judge.

    Learn from your earlier mistake about "file:///" links and just
    admit you were wrong.

    Hey Bozo, the deal WAS rejected by the judge. If you disagree,
    show me where the deal was ACCEPTED by the judge.
    You claim it was rejected...

    ...so YOU show the quote.

    You can't...can you, Sunshine?

    -)

    Oh, go fuck yourself! It WAS rejected and BooBoo and his slimy
    lawyers KNOW IT!! One even said the deal was RIPPED UP!!!

    "one said" that, huh?

    Let's see it.

    I'm NOT your errand boy, jerk - look it up for yourself.

    Sorry, but you are most certainly Alan's little bitch, because you're the one who carried the water here with the claim. Put up or shut up.


    -hh

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Thu Aug 10 21:55:50 2023
    On 2023-08-10 17:42, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 12:53:52 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-10 10:48, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 11:07:28 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-09 23:00, Tommy wrote:

    <https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23888608/transcript-of-july-26-2023-hearing.pdf>



    There's the court transcript, Sunshine.

    Quote the part where the judge rejects the deal.

    :-)

    Where does it say she is going to accept the
    agreement?
    Sorry, Sunshine.

    But you claim she "REJECTED" the agreement.

    So produce the quote.

    She did - as presented.
    And yet you cannot produce the quote.

    Got it.

    Was this fucked up plea deal accepted, YES OR NO?
    You claimed the deal was rejected by the judge.

    Learn from your earlier mistake about "file:///" links and just
    admit you were wrong.

    Hey Bozo, the deal WAS rejected by the judge. If you disagree,
    show me where the deal was ACCEPTED by the judge.
    You claim it was rejected...

    ...so YOU show the quote.

    You can't...can you, Sunshine?

    -)

    Oh, go fuck yourself! It WAS rejected and BooBoo and his slimy
    lawyers KNOW IT!! One even said the deal was RIPPED UP!!!
    "one said" that, huh?

    Let's see it.

    I'm NOT your errand boy, jerk - look it up for yourself.

    Yet another thing you can't even support, let alone prove.

    Why is it that you NEVER support your claims, Sunshine?

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