• Just How Much Pee Is In That Pool?

    From Ralph Ellis@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 19 09:41:42 2017
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    You know that sharp odor of chlorine from the swimming pool you
    can recall from earliest childhood? It turns out it's not just
    chlorine, but a potent brew of chemicals that form when chlorine
    meets sweat, body oils, and urine.

    But up until now, just how much urine has been difficult to
    measure, says chemist Xing-Fang Li of the University of Alberta.
    Li and her colleagues report they can now tell roughly how much
    pee is in a pool by measuring the artificial sweeteners carried
    in most people's urine. Certain sweeteners can be a good proxy
    for pee, she says, because they're designed to "go right through
    you" and don't break down readily in pool water.

    The scientists calculated that one 220,000-gallon, commercial-
    size swimming pool contained almost 20 gallons of urine. In a
    residential pool (20-by-40-foot, five-feet deep), that would
    translate to about two gallons of pee. It's only about one-
    hundredth of a percent, but any urine in a swimming pool can be
    a health concern for some people, not to mention that smell that
    never quite goes away.

    Li's team collected water from pools and hot tubs at hotels and
    recreation facilities in two Canadian cities and measured the
    amount of a sweetener called acesulfame potassium, or Ace-K, for
    short. It's found in everything from yogurt to soup these days,
    so it's no surprise that it's ubiquitous in our urine.

    It's not just in the North American diet. Ace-K has been found
    in people's urine in China too. And enough people are peeing in
    pools for sweeteners to show up there, too.

    "I think you can assume that if people are using your pool,
    they're peeing in it," says Ernest Blatchley III, an
    environmental engineer at Purdue University.

    Apart from being gross, that's also a potential health hazard.
    Chlorine reacts with urine to form a host of potentially toxic
    compounds called disinfection byproducts. These can include
    anything from the chloramines that give well-used pools the
    aforementioned odor, to cyanogen chloride, which is classified
    as a chemical warfare agent. There are also nitrosamines, which
    can cause cancer. There's not enough evidence to say whether the
    nitrosamine levels in pools increase cancer risk, Blatchley
    says, but one study in Spain did find more bladder cancers in
    some long-term swimmers.

    That's not to say that people should avoid swimming, says
    Clifford Weisel, an environmental health expert at Rutgers
    University. Even people with respiratory problems like asthma
    can benefit from the exercise, but "if you take your child to
    the pool and they react to it, make sure you understand why," he
    says. Indoor pools can be more problematic for people with
    respiratory conditions, for example, because compounds build up
    in the air above the water, and there's less natural sunlight,
    which breaks down some harmful compounds.

    The simplest solution: Just don't pee in the pool. And tell all
    your friends not to do it, either. "I view it like secondhand
    smoke," Blatchley says. "It's disrespectful and potentially
    dangerous."

    Also, swimmers should shower before getting in the pool, and get
    out to go to the bathroom, Li says. Even a one-minute rinse
    before diving in can remove much of the sweat and body gunk that
    reacts with chlorine.

    Once someone does pee in the pool, the only way to truly get rid
    of it is to replace the water. "It's not uncommon for water in a
    pool to go unchanged for years," Blatchley says, since many pool
    owners or operators just add water as needed rather than
    completely replacing it, which is more expensive.

    And the longer water sits in a pool, the worse it gets, his
    research has shown. Over time, people add more chlorine to the
    water, which is converted to a form called chloride that builds
    up and encourages the formation of yet more disinfection
    byproducts.

    Li says she's a regular swimmer, and doesn't want to discourage
    people from a healthy activity. "This isn't to scare people,"
    she says, "but hopefully they can prevent the problem."

    The study was published Wednesday in Environmental Science &
    Technology Letters.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/health- shots/2017/03/01/517785902/just-how-much-pee-is-in-that-pool

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  • From braveluke@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 23 08:13:01 2017
    Ralph Ellis;635661 Wrote:
    You know that sharp odor of chlorine from the swimming pool you
    can recall from earliest childhood? It turns out it's not just
    chlorine, but a potent brew of chemicals that form when chlorine
    meets sweat, body oils, and urine.

    But up until now, just how much urine has been difficult to
    measure, says chemist Xing-Fang Li of the University of Alberta.
    Li and her colleagues report they can now tell roughly how much
    pee is in a pool by measuring the artificial sweeteners carried
    in most people's urine. Certain sweeteners can be a good proxy
    for pee, she says, because they're designed to "go right through
    you" and don't break down readily in pool water.

    The scientists calculated that one 220,000-gallon, commercial-
    size swimming pool contained almost 20 gallons of urine. In a
    residential pool (20-by-40-foot, five-feet deep), that would
    translate to about two gallons of pee. It's only about one-
    hundredth of a percent, but any urine in a swimming pool can be
    a health concern for some people, not to mention that smell that
    never quite goes away.

    Li's team collected water from pools and hot tubs at hotels and
    recreation facilities in two Canadian cities and measured the
    amount of a sweetener called acesulfame potassium, or Ace-K, for
    short. It's found in everything from yogurt to soup these days,
    so it's no surprise that it's ubiquitous in our urine.

    It's not just in the North American diet. Ace-K has been found
    in people's urine in China too. And enough people are peeing in
    pools for sweeteners to show up there, too.

    "I think you can assume that if people are using your pool,
    they're peeing in it," says Ernest Blatchley III, an
    environmental engineer at Purdue University.

    Apart from being gross, that's also a potential health hazard.
    Chlorine reacts with urine to form a host of potentially toxic
    compounds called disinfection byproducts. These can include
    anything from the chloramines that give well-used pools the
    aforementioned odor, to cyanogen chloride, which is classified
    as a chemical warfare agent. There are also nitrosamines, which
    can cause cancer. There's not enough evidence to say whether the
    nitrosamine levels in pools increase cancer risk, Blatchley
    says, but one study in Spain did find more bladder cancers in
    some long-term swimmers.

    That's not to say that people should avoid swimming, says
    Clifford Weisel, an environmental health expert at Rutgers
    University. Even people with respiratory problems like asthma
    can benefit from the exercise, but "if you take your child to
    the pool and they react to it, make sure you understand why," he
    says. Indoor pools can be more problematic for people with
    respiratory conditions, for example, because compounds build up
    in the air above the water, and there's less natural sunlight,
    which breaks down some harmful compounds.

    The simplest solution: Just don't pee in the pool. And tell all
    your friends not to do it, either. "I view it like secondhand
    smoke," Blatchley says. "It's disrespectful and potentially
    dangerous."

    Also, swimmers should shower before getting in the pool, and get
    out to go to the bathroom, Li says. Even a one-minute rinse
    before diving in can remove much of the sweat and body gunk that
    reacts with chlorine.

    Once someone does pee in the pool, the only way to truly get rid
    of it is to replace the water. "It's not uncommon for water in a
    pool to go unchanged for years," Blatchley says, since many pool
    owners or operators just add water as needed rather than
    completely replacing it, which is more expensive.

    And the longer water sits in a pool, the worse it gets, his
    research has shown. Over time, people add more chlorine to the
    water, which is converted to a form called chloride that builds
    up and encourages the formation of yet more disinfection
    byproducts.

    Li says she's a regular swimmer, and doesn't want to discourage
    people from a healthy activity. "This isn't to scare people,"
    she says, "but hopefully they can prevent the problem."

    The study was published Wednesday in Environmental Science &
    Technology Letters.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/health- shots/2017/03/01/517785902/just-how-much-pee-is-in-that-pool

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  • From Billy Pro@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 30 09:51:40 2017
    Have you ever tasted pee in the pool. In the pool which is full of
    people, I suppose that the amount of pee must be half of the water :))




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  • From rockyman3@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 10 12:01:40 2017
    Omg, I think I don't really want to know....




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