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    From Road_Hog@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 5 20:31:11 2018
    Just a quick hello to all the old timers.

    There are a few of us left on Facebook - you don't have to like FB or post, just set up an account so that you can join the group.

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/158121114679694/?ref=bookmarks

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  • From greybeard@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 7 10:11:53 2018
    On 06/02/18 17:31, Road_Hog wrote:
    Just a quick hello to all the old timers.

    There are a few of us left on Facebook - you don't have to like FB or post, just set up an account so that you can join the group.

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/158121114679694/?ref=bookmarks


    Greetings Hog.
    I'm staying here....... talking to nobody :{|

    Super rugger about to kick off. Couple of warm up games played.
    Carlos Spencer is back at the Blues!!!!
    Coaching assist I think.

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  • From James Heaton@21:1/5 to greybeard on Tue Feb 6 22:02:00 2018
    "greybeard" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message news:p5d5mr$7f7$1@dont-email.me...
    On 06/02/18 17:31, Road_Hog wrote:
    Just a quick hello to all the old timers.

    There are a few of us left on Facebook - you don't have to like FB or
    post, just set up an account so that you can join the group.

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/158121114679694/?ref=bookmarks


    Greetings Hog.
    I'm staying here....... talking to nobody :{|

    Me too.

    Enjoyed the Wales game on Sat.

    Although have a horrible feeling I'll be crying into my Brains SA this
    Sat...

    James

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  • From Road_Hog@21:1/5 to James Heaton on Sat Feb 10 05:58:38 2018
    On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 10:02:19 PM UTC, James Heaton wrote:
    "greybeard" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message news:p5d5mr$7f7$1@dont-email.me...
    On 06/02/18 17:31, Road_Hog wrote:
    Just a quick hello to all the old timers.

    There are a few of us left on Facebook - you don't have to like FB or
    post, just set up an account so that you can join the group.

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/158121114679694/?ref=bookmarks


    Greetings Hog.
    I'm staying here....... talking to nobody :{|

    Me too.

    Enjoyed the Wales game on Sat.

    Although have a horrible feeling I'll be crying into my Brains SA this
    Sat...

    James

    Ye of little faith. Wales will walk this one.

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  • From James Heaton@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 10 20:07:44 2018
    "Road_Hog" <lordsmith@gmail.com> wrote in message news:65a1c725-e810-4267-b424-a5e3ab47f23a@googlegroups.com...
    On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 10:02:19 PM UTC, James Heaton wrote:
    "greybeard" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
    news:p5d5mr$7f7$1@dont-email.me...
    On 06/02/18 17:31, Road_Hog wrote:
    Just a quick hello to all the old timers.

    There are a few of us left on Facebook - you don't have to like FB or
    post, just set up an account so that you can join the group.

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/158121114679694/?ref=bookmarks


    Greetings Hog.
    I'm staying here....... talking to nobody :{|

    Me too.

    Enjoyed the Wales game on Sat.

    Although have a horrible feeling I'll be crying into my Brains SA this
    Sat...

    James

    Ye of little faith. Wales will walk this one.

    Wales 6, England 2, Johnny May 10 I made it...

    James

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  • From John Williams@21:1/5 to heatonandmoore@gmail.com.invalid on Tue Feb 13 06:38:14 2018
    On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 20:07:44 -0000, "James Heaton" <heatonandmoore@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:


    "Road_Hog" <lordsmith@gmail.com> wrote in message >news:65a1c725-e810-4267-b424-a5e3ab47f23a@googlegroups.com...
    On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 10:02:19 PM UTC, James Heaton wrote:
    "greybeard" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
    news:p5d5mr$7f7$1@dont-email.me...
    On 06/02/18 17:31, Road_Hog wrote:
    Just a quick hello to all the old timers.

    There are a few of us left on Facebook - you don't have to like FB or >>> >> post, just set up an account so that you can join the group.

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/158121114679694/?ref=bookmarks


    Greetings Hog.
    I'm staying here....... talking to nobody :{|

    Me too.

    Enjoyed the Wales game on Sat.

    Although have a horrible feeling I'll be crying into my Brains SA this
    Sat...

    James

    Ye of little faith. Wales will walk this one.

    Wales 6, England 2, Johnny May 10 I made it...

    And Gatland played the victim card with such absurdity I have now lost
    all respect for him. Such a whinger it is unbelievable.

    In the unlikely even anyone is reading and doesn't know, his
    performance was about a TMO decision.

    Under advantage a cross kick was "propelled forward" by wing Steff
    Evans. Anscombe (Wales FB) and England wing Watson dived to ground the
    ball in goal. TJ says try Ref says have look TMO, "try or no try". TMO
    says not clear Wales touchdown, ,clear England touchdown first.
    Application of "clear and obvious" from TMO led to no try awarded.

    Screams from Gatland possibly heard around the rugby world after the
    game. Formal complaint about the decision to chief ref (is it still
    Joel Jutge?)

    Deafening silence when footage showed the faintest of knock-ons when
    wing Evans "propelled forward" the ball.

    General whinges the ref got the knock on wrong and the touch down
    wrong. I think the touchdown was 80-90% likely a try after numerous
    replayed but not many angles shown. Though I like benefit of the doubt
    for the attacking side, that is NOT the way TMOs are told to interpret
    "try or no try".

    So for me the TMO was spot on with both the knock on and the
    grounding, as neither were clear and obvious. The ignorance and
    deliberate posturing in falsehood of media and Gatland respectively
    are another of the factors pushing me further away from rugby
    nowadays.

    It was a good game, close with some excellent performances from Welsh
    back row and Handsome second half, and Farrell, Launchbury and even
    Brown for England.

    There. I feel better for that even though readership may be one or
    less.

    --

    All the best
    John Williams

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  • From greybeard@21:1/5 to John Williams on Wed Feb 14 09:18:31 2018
    On 13/02/18 19:38, John Williams wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 20:07:44 -0000, "James Heaton" <heatonandmoore@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:


    "Road_Hog" <lordsmith@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:65a1c725-e810-4267-b424-a5e3ab47f23a@googlegroups.com...
    On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 10:02:19 PM UTC, James Heaton wrote:
    "greybeard" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
    news:p5d5mr$7f7$1@dont-email.me...
    On 06/02/18 17:31, Road_Hog wrote:
    Just a quick hello to all the old timers.

    There are a few of us left on Facebook - you don't have to like FB or >>>>>> post, just set up an account so that you can join the group.

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/158121114679694/?ref=bookmarks


    Greetings Hog.
    I'm staying here....... talking to nobody :{|

    Me too.

    Enjoyed the Wales game on Sat.

    Although have a horrible feeling I'll be crying into my Brains SA this >>>> Sat...

    James

    Ye of little faith. Wales will walk this one.

    Wales 6, England 2, Johnny May 10 I made it...

    And Gatland played the victim card with such absurdity I have now lost
    all respect for him. Such a whinger it is unbelievable.

    In the unlikely even anyone is reading and doesn't know, his
    performance was about a TMO decision.

    Under advantage a cross kick was "propelled forward" by wing Steff
    Evans. Anscombe (Wales FB) and England wing Watson dived to ground the
    ball in goal. TJ says try Ref says have look TMO, "try or no try". TMO
    says not clear Wales touchdown, ,clear England touchdown first.
    Application of "clear and obvious" from TMO led to no try awarded.

    Screams from Gatland possibly heard around the rugby world after the
    game. Formal complaint about the decision to chief ref (is it still
    Joel Jutge?)

    Deafening silence when footage showed the faintest of knock-ons when
    wing Evans "propelled forward" the ball.

    General whinges the ref got the knock on wrong and the touch down
    wrong. I think the touchdown was 80-90% likely a try after numerous
    replayed but not many angles shown. Though I like benefit of the doubt
    for the attacking side, that is NOT the way TMOs are told to interpret
    "try or no try".

    So for me the TMO was spot on with both the knock on and the
    grounding, as neither were clear and obvious. The ignorance and
    deliberate posturing in falsehood of media and Gatland respectively
    are another of the factors pushing me further away from rugby
    nowadays.

    It was a good game, close with some excellent performances from Welsh
    back row and Handsome second half, and Farrell, Launchbury and even
    Brown for England.

    There. I feel better for that even though readership may be one or
    less.



    Good you got that off your chest.
    Gatland is a cry-baby. Forget him.

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  • From bikerpaul68@gmail.com@21:1/5 to John Williams on Sat Feb 24 22:18:55 2018
    On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 07:38:17 UTC+1, John Williams wrote:
    ...
    Screams from Gatland possibly heard around the rugby world after the
    game. Formal complaint about the decision to chief ref (is it still
    Joel Jutge?)

    Deafening silence when footage showed the faintest of knock-ons when
    wing Evans "propelled forward" the ball.

    General whinges the ref got the knock on wrong and the touch down
    wrong. I think the touchdown was 80-90% likely a try after numerous
    replayed but not many angles shown. Though I like benefit of the doubt
    for the attacking side, that is NOT the way TMOs are told to interpret
    "try or no try".

    So for me the TMO was spot on with both the knock on and the
    grounding, as neither were clear and obvious. The ignorance and
    deliberate posturing in falsehood of media and Gatland respectively
    are another of the factors pushing me further away from rugby
    nowadays.


    I agree. Most commentators seem to forget that the TMO decides on _all_ available evidence, not just one frame showing Anscombe's finger lightly brushing the side of the ball. I gather "downward pressure" has been removed from the Laws, but that "
    grounding" remains. In that one frame, Anscombe could just as well be pushing the ball forwards a millimetre. Nothing clear and obvious there. And the problem has been compounded by the RFU's saying officially that the TMO was wrong! Before long they'll
    be changing the score and the 6N table after the full-time whistle sounds.

    Paul

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