• Re: Hey bmoore - Bullies earn more!

    From bmoore@21:1/5 to iceberg.rules@gmail.com on Wed Mar 27 15:21:52 2024
    In article <uu13ah$2r905$1@dont-email.me>,
    The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com> wrote:
    Hey bmoore! how cool is this! if you were a bully at school you earn
    tons more later in life!!

    Wow, and you're living proof!

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/mar/24/playground-bullies-do-prosper-and-go-on-to-earn-more-in-middle-age

    Playground bullies do prosper – and go on to earn more in middle age

    Five-decade UK study finds that aggression at school leads to
    better-paying jobs, while those with emotional instability went on to
    earn less

    What about those with both aggression *and* emotional instability?

    Children who displayed aggressive behaviour at school, such as bullying
    or temper outbursts, are likely to earn more money in middle age,
    according to a five-decade study that upends the maxim that bullies do
    not prosper.

    They are also more likely to have higher job satisfaction and be in more >desirable jobs, say researchers from the Institute for Social and
    Economic Research at the University of Essex.

    The paper, published today, used data about almost 7,000 people born in
    1970 whose lives have been tracked by the British Cohort Study. The
    research team examined data from primary school teachers who assessed
    the children’s social and emotional skills when they were 10 years old
    in 1980, and matched it to their lives at the age of 46 in 2016.

    “We found that those children who teachers felt had problems with >attention, peer relationships and emotional instability did end up
    earning less in the future, as we expected, but we were surprised to
    find a strong link between aggressive behaviour at school and higher
    earnings in later life,” said Prof Emilia Del Bono, one of the study’s >authors.

    “It’s possible that our classrooms are competitive places and that >children adapt to win that competition with aggression, and then take
    that through to the workplace where they continue to compete
    aggressively for the best paid jobs. Perhaps we need to reconsider
    discipline in schools and help to channel this characteristic in
    children in a more positive way.”

    Policymakers should recognise that socio-emotional skills are important,
    she said, and introduce policies to support these skills in school.
    “These findings make a strong case for more interventions supporting
    those struggling with their attention to lessons or with friendships and >emotions, to prevent a lifelong negative impact on their earning potential.”

    Del Bono, Ben Etheridge and Paul Garcia used primary school teachers’ >answers to more than 60 questions about the children’s behaviour.

    They found that an increase in teachers’ observations of conduct
    problems – such as temper outbursts or bullying or teasing other
    children – was associated with an increase in earnings in 2016 of nearly
    4% for a given rise in conduct problems for boys and girls. That
    compared with a 6% rise for higher cognition skills.

    Those considered to have attention problems, such as failing to finish
    tasks, and emotional problems – seen as worried, anxious or fussy – went >on to earn less than their classmates.

    Further analysis showed that, by age 16, those with conduct problems
    were more sociable as teenagers, and were more likely to smoke and be >arrested at some point in their lives.

    Del Bono said that expectations about children’s behaviour had changed >since the 1980s and that many participants had dropped out of the study
    since it began, a factor that affects all longitudinal studies. “We do
    lose more of those with higher conduct problems,” she said.

    The work tallies with previous research by economists including Nicholas >Papageorge, who examined longitudinal studies in the UK and US in 2019
    and found that “externalising” behaviour linked to aggression and >hyperactivity was associated with lower educational attainment but
    higher earnings.

    Many successful people have had problems of various kinds at school,
    from Winston Churchill, who was taken out of his primary school, to
    those who were expelled or suspended.

    That does not mean parents should encourage children to misbehave, Del
    Bono said. “I suppose [it means] encouraging your child to stand their >ground, rather than being aggressive.”

    Other research has emphasised organisational skills and being
    goal-oriented – high conscientiousness and low neuroticism in the
    so-called “big five” personality traits – as keys to career success.

    There is no evidence in the institute’s study about whether children who >were aggressive continued to be so in adulthood, but if that was a
    factor in their later success then it may not work for younger generations.

    Mary-Clare Race, chief executive of Talking Talent and an occupational >psychologist, said 2016 had been a “real turning point” in workplace >culture. “Before that time, we did reward typically masculine or
    aggressive behaviours – bosses slamming their fists on the table or >shouting,” she said. But the rise of the #MeToo movement had turned
    around corporate culture. “At that time I was working in America and we >were inundated with companies saying ‘there’s a Harvey Weinstein’ in our >company’.”

    She said research showed that overcoming an adverse event in childhood
    was a strong indicator of future success as a leader. “We’re also seeing >a generational shift where younger generations expect to have a culture
    of belonging and being treated with fairness, respect and kindness.”

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