jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

Thanks Uncle Joe

Investor to whom?


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jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

Thanks Uncle Joe

Investor to whom?

I doubt it's investors in Trump Bucks. Hope bob wasn't conned. It could
be bitcoin. Papa Joe is great for the (US) economy. Europe should have a
senile leader too.

--
"And off they went, from here to there,
The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
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Europe should have a senile leader too.

Europe can't have a leader. There's no European nation.

Napoleon tried, he failed.
Hitler tried, he failed.

Both times Russia saved our ass.


And many more times.


Now it's happening again






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jdeluise kirjoitti 2.3.2024 klo 22.05:

Thanks Uncle Joe

https://media.tenor.com/tusGtelXcRoAAAAM/powell-money.gif

Notice that the US stock market may come down big at some point.
At least Warren Buffett, Michael Burry and TT from RST are having vast quantities of dry powder ready. TT probably most.

Biden is a failure on economic policies. Come to think of it on all
pplicies actually. Ok, weapons aid to Ukraine is good - but even at that
you get the feeling that US doesn't want Ukraine to win, but to just
make it forever conflict so that US can benefit from it.

"To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal" -
Henry Kissinger

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Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 2.3.2024 klo 23.45:

On 2.3.2024 23.05, *skriptis wrote:

jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

Thanks Uncle Joe

Investor to whom?

I doubt it's investors in Trump Bucks. Hope bob wasn't conned. It could
be bitcoin. Papa Joe is great for the (US) economy. Europe should have a senile leader too.

Great to have senile leader & neocons running the show.

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jdeluise kirjoitti 3.3.2024 klo 5.41:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

jdeluise kirjoitti 2.3.2024 klo 22.05:

Thanks Uncle Joe

https://media.tenor.com/tusGtelXcRoAAAAM/powell-money.gif

Notice that the US stock market may come down big at some point. At
least Warren Buffett, Michael Burry and TT from RST are having vast
quantities of dry powder ready. TT probably most.

Biden is a failure on economic policies. Come to think of it on all
pplicies actually. Ok, weapons aid to Ukraine is good - but even at
that you get the feeling that US doesn't want Ukraine to win, but to
just make it forever conflict so that US can benefit from it.

"To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal" -
Henry Kissinger

Your analysis sounds heavily biased by your emotions and prejudices.

Which part and how so?

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jdeluise kirjoitti 3.3.2024 klo 6.19:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

jdeluise kirjoitti 3.3.2024 klo 5.41:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

jdeluise kirjoitti 2.3.2024 klo 22.05:

Thanks Uncle Joe

https://media.tenor.com/tusGtelXcRoAAAAM/powell-money.gif

Notice that the US stock market may come down big at some point. At
least Warren Buffett, Michael Burry and TT from RST are having vast
quantities of dry powder ready. TT probably most.

Biden is a failure on economic policies. Come to think of it on all
pplicies actually. Ok, weapons aid to Ukraine is good - but even at
that you get the feeling that US doesn't want Ukraine to win, but to
just make it forever conflict so that US can benefit from it.

"To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal"
- Henry Kissinger

Your analysis sounds heavily biased by your emotions and prejudices.

Which part and how so?

You didn't state any facts.

As for "the stock market may come down big at some point"... big whoop, that's the nature of the stock market. Everybody knows that.

Yet you thank Bidenomics on current stock market ups...

(or even worse, crypto ups... although I wouldn't call putting one's
money on crypto "investing", it's more of a game of gambling)

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jdeluise kirjoitti 3.3.2024 klo 12.18:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

jdeluise kirjoitti 3.3.2024 klo 6.19:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

jdeluise kirjoitti 3.3.2024 klo 5.41:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

jdeluise kirjoitti 2.3.2024 klo 22.05:

Thanks Uncle Joe

https://media.tenor.com/tusGtelXcRoAAAAM/powell-money.gif

Notice that the US stock market may come down big at some point.
At least Warren Buffett, Michael Burry and TT from RST are having
vast quantities of dry powder ready. TT probably most.

Biden is a failure on economic policies. Come to think of it on
all pplicies actually. Ok, weapons aid to Ukraine is good - but
even at that you get the feeling that US doesn't want Ukraine to
win, but to just make it forever conflict so that US can benefit
from it.

"To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is
fatal" - Henry Kissinger

Your analysis sounds heavily biased by your emotions and
prejudices.

Which part and how so?

You didn't state any facts. As for "the stock market may come down
big at some point"... big whoop, that's the nature of the stock
market. Everybody knows that.

Yet you thank Bidenomics on current stock market ups...

The OP was a joke, duh.

I thought it was trolling.
But successful at that, congrats.

(or even worse, crypto ups... although I wouldn't call putting one's
money on crypto "investing", it's more of a game of gambling)

You're entitled to your opinion.

Thanks.

Buffett & Munger on crypto:
https://youtu.be/tGmhFx_7w4I?si=kx8ycHF22Ipobdik

:)

I'm a bit curious however, on what kind of investing were your referring
to in the OP... which stocks/funds do you have?

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Sawfish kirjoitti 3.3.2024 klo 18.29:

On 3/2/24 7:14 PM, TT wrote:

jdeluise kirjoitti 2.3.2024 klo 22.05:

Thanks Uncle Joe

https://media.tenor.com/tusGtelXcRoAAAAM/powell-money.gif

Notice that the US stock market may come down big at some point.
At least Warren Buffett, Michael Burry and TT from RST are having vast
quantities of dry powder ready. TT probably most.

Biden is a failure on economic policies. Come to think of it on all
pplicies actually. Ok, weapons aid to Ukraine is good - but even at
that you get the feeling that US doesn't want Ukraine to win, but to
just make it forever conflict so that US can benefit from it.

"To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal" -
Henry Kissinger

Let's look at what he may have been responsible for.

He continued, expanded, and extended (in time) the COVID relief payments
to renters and businesses. This was done with little vetting for need or
even legitimacy, so it injected loads of cash into the US economy.

This probably ignited inflation, but in doing so staved off major
economic dislocations.

He allowed loads of immigration from the south, and this was at a time
when demand for labor, right at the end of COVID and after, was as high
as I'd ever seen it in my life.

He further injected cash into the economy by forgiving some student
debt, and slowing the repayment of other student debt.

He started more oil/gas extraction, probably as a result the
Russia/Ukraine thingie.

Of these four items, three clearly served the double purpose of buying
votes for the party in power.

If he's not responsible for this policy direction, those who are, are
wily motherfuckers, no shit.

Yes. Fed is "tightening" while Biden is easing. US is currently taking 1 trillion more debt every 100 days. That's huge.

Also Biden has probably been tougher on China than Trump was, with chips
act etc. That also increases (worldwide) inflation. At least he's not
eased Trump tariffs. On other hand Trump promised recently to put 60%
tariffs on all Chinese imports. Haha. Now imagine the inflation & trade
war *that* would cause...

Not to forget Biden's unbearable fake wokeness, picking black female
scotus justice etc. I miss the old Joe telling stories about Cron Pop & straight razors.

Uh...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/Rachel_Levine_Karine_Jean-Pierre_2022.jpg/640px-Rachel_Levine_Karine_Jean-Pierre_2022.jpg

Although I have to say Karine Jean-Pierre is very cute. At least
compared to Rachel.

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Sawfish kirjoitti 3.3.2024 klo 18.45:

On 3/3/24 3:29 AM, TT wrote:

jdeluise kirjoitti 3.3.2024 klo 12.18:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

jdeluise kirjoitti 3.3.2024 klo 6.19:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

jdeluise kirjoitti 3.3.2024 klo 5.41:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

jdeluise kirjoitti 2.3.2024 klo 22.05:

Thanks Uncle Joe

https://media.tenor.com/tusGtelXcRoAAAAM/powell-money.gif

Notice that the US stock market may come down big at some point. >>>>>>>> At least Warren Buffett, Michael Burry and TT from RST are having >>>>>>>> vast quantities of dry powder ready. TT probably most.

Biden is a failure on economic policies. Come to think of it on >>>>>>>> all pplicies actually. Ok, weapons aid to Ukraine is good - but >>>>>>>> even at that you get the feeling that US doesn't want Ukraine to >>>>>>>> win, but to just make it forever conflict so that US can benefit >>>>>>>> from it.

"To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is
fatal" - Henry Kissinger

Your analysis sounds heavily biased by your emotions and
prejudices.

Which part and how so?

You didn't state any facts.  As for "the stock market may come down >>>>> big at some point"... big whoop, that's the nature of the stock
market.  Everybody knows that.

Yet you thank Bidenomics on current stock market ups...

The OP was a joke, duh.

I thought it was trolling.
But successful at that, congrats.

(or even worse, crypto ups... although I wouldn't call putting one's
money on crypto "investing", it's more of a game of gambling)

You're entitled to your opinion.

Thanks.

Buffett & Munger on crypto:
https://youtu.be/tGmhFx_7w4I?si=kx8ycHF22Ipobdik

:)

I'm a bit curious however, on what kind of investing were your
referring to in the OP... which stocks/funds do you have?

Diverting, re the stock market here.

It's probably true where you are also, but there's a certain
relationship between central bank target rates and the stock market.
There are lots of other influences, too, but all things being equal, the portion of investors who tend toward risk aversion put money into yields
tied to the interest rates rather than revenue growth, as per many stocks.

So what you had here since the 2008 crash and slow recovery was a very
low target rate. This meant that there was no real way to get a yield
except from the stock market. It drives the market up a bit artificially
when the rates are very low.

But now we have rates high enough to attract some of the investment
money that formerly had been forced into stocks, into bonds and the like.

Yes. Current situation is not bad for bonds... I have some global bond
fund too. Should add value like 3.5% per year AND 7% each percentage
point Fed/ECB cuts rates. If they raise rates, well... I guess my bond
fund is fucked then.

So if the market is high now, in some sense it's due to either intrinsic strength of US economy and currency relative to other major currencies, and/or likelihood of increase corporate revenues.

All true what you say, although I think US stocks are overpriced
compared to possible revenues. Or one must be very optimistic about
future revenues. Especially with "AI stocks".

I mean, what's AMD's P/E ratio currently... 300?
Oh wait, I checked it's 1600! OMG :)))
And 60 times fwd earnings.

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Sawfish kirjoitti 3.3.2024 klo 22.21:

On 3/3/24 12:14 PM, TT wrote:

Sawfish kirjoitti 3.3.2024 klo 18.45:

On 3/3/24 3:29 AM, TT wrote:

jdeluise kirjoitti 3.3.2024 klo 12.18:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

jdeluise kirjoitti 3.3.2024 klo 6.19:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

jdeluise kirjoitti 3.3.2024 klo 5.41:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

jdeluise kirjoitti 2.3.2024 klo 22.05:

Thanks Uncle Joe

https://media.tenor.com/tusGtelXcRoAAAAM/powell-money.gif

Notice that the US stock market may come down big at some point. >>>>>>>>>> At least Warren Buffett, Michael Burry and TT from RST are having >>>>>>>>>> vast quantities of dry powder ready. TT probably most.

Biden is a failure on economic policies. Come to think of it on >>>>>>>>>> all pplicies actually. Ok, weapons aid to Ukraine is good - but >>>>>>>>>> even at that you get the feeling that US doesn't want Ukraine to >>>>>>>>>> win, but to just make it forever conflict so that US can benefit >>>>>>>>>> from it.

"To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is >>>>>>>>>> fatal" - Henry Kissinger

Your analysis sounds heavily biased by your emotions and
prejudices.

Which part and how so?

You didn't state any facts.  As for "the stock market may come down >>>>>>> big at some point"... big whoop, that's the nature of the stock
market.  Everybody knows that.

Yet you thank Bidenomics on current stock market ups...

The OP was a joke, duh.

I thought it was trolling.
But successful at that, congrats.

(or even worse, crypto ups... although I wouldn't call putting one's >>>>>> money on crypto "investing", it's more of a game of gambling)

You're entitled to your opinion.

Thanks.

Buffett & Munger on crypto:
https://youtu.be/tGmhFx_7w4I?si=kx8ycHF22Ipobdik

:)

I'm a bit curious however, on what kind of investing were your
referring to in the OP... which stocks/funds do you have?

Diverting, re the stock market here.

It's probably true where you are also, but there's a certain
relationship between central bank target rates and the stock market.
There are lots of other influences, too, but all things being equal,
the portion of investors who tend toward risk aversion put money into
yields tied to the interest rates rather than revenue growth, as per
many stocks.

So what you had here since the 2008 crash and slow recovery was a
very low target rate. This meant that there was no real way to get a
yield except from the stock market. It drives the market up a bit
artificially when the rates are very low.

But now we have rates high enough to attract some of the investment
money that formerly had been forced into stocks, into bonds and the
like.

Yes. Current situation is not bad for bonds... I have some global bond
fund too. Should add value like 3.5% per year AND 7% each percentage
point Fed/ECB cuts rates. If they raise rates, well... I guess my bond
fund is fucked then.

So if the market is high now, in some sense it's due to either
intrinsic strength of US economy and currency relative to other major
currencies, and/or likelihood of increase corporate revenues.

All true what you say, although I think US stocks are overpriced
compared to possible revenues. Or one must be very optimistic about
future revenues. Especially with "AI stocks".

I mean, what's AMD's P/E ratio currently... 300?
Oh wait, I checked it's 1600! OMG :)))
And 60 times fwd earnings.

With P/E ratios like that, it makes AMDs stock's intrinsic value look a
lot like a cryptocurrency, huh?

I think JD should buy some AMD, just in case...

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jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:> jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:> TT <TT@dprk.kp> Wrote> in message:r>> jdeluise kirjoitti 2.3.2024 klo 22.05:> > Thanks Uncle>> Joehttps://

media.tenor.com/tusGtelXcRoAAAAM/powell-money.gifNotice>> that the US stock market may come down big at some point.At least>> Warren Buffett, Michael Burry and TT from RST are having vast>> quantities of dry powder ready. TT probably most.Biden is a
failure> on> economic policies. Come to think of it on all pplicies> actually. Ok,> weapons aid to Ukraine is good - but even at that you> get the feeling> that US doesn't want Ukraine to win, but to just make> it forever> conflict so that US can benefit
from it."To be an enemy of> the US is> dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal" - Henry Kissinger>>> You are smart man, so describe me the exact scenario that details> how> Ukraine wins the war.The definition of victory is fluid.>> Another great
informative reply from JD.Well, you framed the question ambiguously. What is victory for eitherside? I'd say Russia has already lost- Bottlenecked at their border- Tremendous loss of life and combat readiness- Decimated navy, currently hiding from
drones- Air force crippled by loss of key support aircraft- Poor morale throughout the country- Financially isolated- Lost leverage to arms clients due to reputational damage- Losing ground to energy production competitorsA "victory" in Ukraine would
require a tremendous investment inrebuilding it... where's that money coming from?



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jdeluise kirjoitti 3.3.2024 klo 22.28:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

jdeluise kirjoitti 3.3.2024 klo 12.18:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

jdeluise kirjoitti 3.3.2024 klo 6.19:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

jdeluise kirjoitti 3.3.2024 klo 5.41:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

jdeluise kirjoitti 2.3.2024 klo 22.05:

Thanks Uncle Joe

https://media.tenor.com/tusGtelXcRoAAAAM/powell-money.gif

Notice that the US stock market may come down big at some point. >>>>>>>> At least Warren Buffett, Michael Burry and TT from RST are
having vast quantities of dry powder ready. TT probably most.

Biden is a failure on economic policies. Come to think of it on >>>>>>>> all pplicies actually. Ok, weapons aid to Ukraine is good - but >>>>>>>> even at that you get the feeling that US doesn't want Ukraine to >>>>>>>> win, but to just make it forever conflict so that US can benefit >>>>>>>> from it.

"To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is
fatal" - Henry Kissinger

Your analysis sounds heavily biased by your emotions and
prejudices.

Which part and how so?

You didn't state any facts. As for "the stock market may come down
big at some point"... big whoop, that's the nature of the stock
market. Everybody knows that.

Yet you thank Bidenomics on current stock market ups...

The OP was a joke, duh.

I thought it was trolling. But successful at that, congrats.

(or even worse, crypto ups... although I wouldn't call putting one's
money on crypto "investing", it's more of a game of gambling)

You're entitled to your opinion.

Thanks.

Buffett & Munger on crypto:
https://youtu.be/tGmhFx_7w4I?si=kx8ycHF22Ipobdik

:)

I'm a bit curious however, on what kind of investing were your
referring to in the OP... which stocks/funds do you have?

Yes, yes, Munger and Buffet don't like it. Hey look, they're sharp guys
but they're well past it. Hell, every time Munger leaves the house, he instinctively reaches for the spot on the wall where the buggy whip used
to hang. They have a vested interest in keeping things as they are now. Don't trust someone like that with your own financial future.

They may say that crypto doesn't "produce" anything, but crypto is the
engine being used to build an alternative, decentralized global
financial ecosystem. There is a lot of value in that... as we've seen
the traditional financial system is entirely at the mercy of politics
(see how Russia was removed from SWIFT, for example). We're just in the growth phase right now, so you're going to see a lot of
speculation... but that's not *all* it is. From comments you've made
over the years you're just not very informed on the topic. Shame on you
as an investor.

Anyway, it's OK if you don't want to participate. But I'd say you're
just leaving money on the table right now and failing to fully diversify yourself for the future if you don't adopt it eventually. I'm sure
you'll come around one day when you've shed your harmful,
emotionally-based prejudices.

You're correct that Munger is past it. Literally.

I don't have fomo on crypto. Others are free to make as much money as
they want with it, doesn't bother me much. But I certainly don't want to
put money on something which has no value and then lose it all.

Crypto is certainly a valid short term opportunity to win/lose. But I
don't believe in long term chances for it.
Seems unlikely in the long run that governments would keep allowing the existence of parallel "currency".

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jdeluise kirjoitti 3.3.2024 klo 23.13:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

jdeluise kirjoitti 3.3.2024 klo 22.28:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

jdeluise kirjoitti 3.3.2024 klo 12.18:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

jdeluise kirjoitti 3.3.2024 klo 6.19:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

jdeluise kirjoitti 3.3.2024 klo 5.41:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

jdeluise kirjoitti 2.3.2024 klo 22.05:

Thanks Uncle Joe

https://media.tenor.com/tusGtelXcRoAAAAM/powell-money.gif

Notice that the US stock market may come down big at some
point. At least Warren Buffett, Michael Burry and TT from RST >>>>>>>>>> are having vast quantities of dry powder ready. TT probably >>>>>>>>>> most.

Biden is a failure on economic policies. Come to think of it >>>>>>>>>> on all pplicies actually. Ok, weapons aid to Ukraine is good - >>>>>>>>>> but even at that you get the feeling that US doesn't want
Ukraine to win, but to just make it forever conflict so that >>>>>>>>>> US can benefit from it.

"To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is >>>>>>>>>> fatal" - Henry Kissinger

Your analysis sounds heavily biased by your emotions and
prejudices.

Which part and how so?

You didn't state any facts. As for "the stock market may come
down big at some point"... big whoop, that's the nature of the
stock market. Everybody knows that.

Yet you thank Bidenomics on current stock market ups...

The OP was a joke, duh.

I thought it was trolling. But successful at that, congrats.

(or even worse, crypto ups... although I wouldn't call putting
one's money on crypto "investing", it's more of a game of
gambling)

You're entitled to your opinion.

Thanks.

Buffett & Munger on crypto:
https://youtu.be/tGmhFx_7w4I?si=kx8ycHF22Ipobdik

:)

I'm a bit curious however, on what kind of investing were your
referring to in the OP... which stocks/funds do you have?

Yes, yes, Munger and Buffet don't like it. Hey look, they're sharp
guys but they're well past it. Hell, every time Munger leaves the
house, he instinctively reaches for the spot on the wall where the
buggy whip used to hang. They have a vested interest in keeping
things as they are now. Don't trust someone like that with your own
financial future. They may say that crypto doesn't "produce"
anything, but crypto is the engine being used to build an
alternative, decentralized global financial ecosystem. There is a
lot of value in that... as we've seen the traditional financial
system is entirely at the mercy of politics (see how Russia was
removed from SWIFT, for example). We're just in the growth phase
right now, so you're going to see a lot of speculation... but that's
not *all* it is. From comments you've made over the years you're
just not very informed on the topic. Shame on you as an investor.
Anyway, it's OK if you don't want to participate. But I'd say you're
just leaving money on the table right now and failing to fully
diversify yourself for the future if you don't adopt it eventually.
I'm sure you'll come around one day when you've shed your harmful,
emotionally-based prejudices.

You're correct that Munger is past it. Literally.

I don't have fomo on crypto. Others are free to make as much money as
they want with it, doesn't bother me much. But I certainly don't want
to put money on something which has no value and then lose it all.

Crypto is certainly a valid short term opportunity to win/lose. But I
don't believe in long term chances for it. Seems unlikely in the long
run that governments would keep allowing the existence of parallel
"currency".

And you've just admitted that a decentralized financial ecosystem
(driven by cryptocurrency) has value... why else would government(s) go
out of their way to crack down on it?

Decentralization is the problem...
Criminal use, avoidance of taxes etc.

Also crypto accounts can be hacked. Poof, the money is gone...

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jdeluise kirjoitti 4.3.2024 klo 0.24:

The external value of crypto seems to be a belief in the resiliency and neutrality of the system and its ability to efficiently exchange value. That's pretty strong.

"ability to efficiently exchange value" :)

Arguments from crypto-believers usually sound like all-hype zero facts marketing speech. "Groundbreaking decentralized blockchain technology"
must also be mentioned, whatever that means...

Probably something like bittorrent seeds. Groundbreaking indeed.

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jdeluise kirjoitti 4.3.2024 klo 0.43:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

jdeluise kirjoitti 4.3.2024 klo 0.24:

The external value of crypto seems to be a belief in the resiliency
and neutrality of the system and its ability to efficiently exchange
value. That's pretty strong.

"ability to efficiently exchange value" :)

Arguments from crypto-believers usually sound like all-hype zero facts
marketing speech. "Groundbreaking decentralized blockchain technology"
must also be mentioned, whatever that means...

Probably something like bittorrent seeds. Groundbreaking indeed.

You'll come around eventually.

:)

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jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

The subtext of your reply is that you know I'm right. Let's remember your scintillating analysis in the early days of the war. You were comparing it favorably to a German blitzkrieg.

I assumed your regime would back off from starting ww3.

Don't you think USA providing billions in arms and Boris Johnson as a Biden emissary ordering Zelensky not to sign peace has had the effect of prolonging the war?




It sure did.


https://media.nationalpriorities.org/uploads/us_vs_russia_2021_sipri_large.png




But money is not everything. Once Russia annihilates all of borderlanders manpower, we'll see if there's going to be phase 2.

Maybe Biden orders Poles and Finns to march on Russia in second wave?






As for your previous post, it's nonsense and lol is a pretty much appropriate comment.

E.g. Russia hasn't lost any combat readiness, in fact they're much more ready now. Practice makes you perfect.

Next you mock Russian navy, but where is Ukrainian (NATO) navy in Black Sea? Nonexistent.

It's the nature of modern warfare that drones have become a major threat.

Look at the Houthis, some freaks in sandals, not even a military, using drones to sink ships in Red Sea and nobody can stop them.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/2/rubymar-cargo-ship-earlier-hit-by-houthis-has-sunk-yemeni-government-says





Rebuilding is a myth, there's no urban warfare in big cities, only couple of urban centers that were stronghold points on the frontline were totally destroyed.

Not a big deal.

Bahmut was the largest one, 70k for example.

2% of the size of Kiev.




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Your article seems to largely confirm what Isaid. At any rate, I believe Russia already "lost" even if theyeventually conquer Ukraine. Obviously a key victory condition forRussia was a *quick* victory, so it didn't have to upend its entire economy on

a war effort or have to pay for the significant reconstruction effort. Not to mention having to police an angry populace who lost a generation of young men. It looks bad for Russia, very very bad.



Yeah Union was fucked too for winning civil war. They had to do it quickly. Once they couldn't done it quickly they had to do to reconstruction and police an angry populace who lost a generation of young men.

Lincoln went in history as a total loser.


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*skriptis kirjoitti 4.3.2024 klo 8.55:

jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

The subtext of your reply is that you know I'm right. Let's remember your scintillating analysis in the early days of the war. You were comparing it favorably to a German blitzkrieg.

I assumed your regime would back off from starting ww3.

Don't you think USA providing billions in arms and Boris Johnson as a Biden emissary ordering Zelensky not to sign peace has had the effect of prolonging the war?

You thought Russia would be able to surround & conquer Kyiv. Ukraine
hardly had billions in western arms bitd.

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You thought Russia would be able to surround & conquer Kyiv. Ukraine hardly had billions in western arms bitd.

Your comment sounds as if it's possible to be wrong in prediction?


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jdeluise kirjoitti 4.3.2024 klo 20.12:

*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:

E.g. Russia hasn't lost any combat readiness, in fact they're much
more ready now. Practice makes you perfect.

Well, there is a quote in "Harakiri"

Swordsmanship untested in battle is like the art of swimming mastered
on land.

However, as we saw in that article I posted the other day, Russia is
sending previously injured guys to the front lines on crutches... that
can't inspire confidence or bravery in his cohorts. Here's another
quote from the movie:

What befalls others today, may be your own fate tomorrow.

Russia obviously running out of A-grade trained men & equipment.

Unfortunately Ukraine is also running out of men, while Russia can send
their trash endlessly & has ramped up it's war production. Zelensky even
asked his men back from Estonia (Kaja Kallas said no).
Russia also has lots of soviet junk in warehouses. Although some of that
junk may be more dangerous for Russians than the enemy.
Ukraine also has trouble with getting ammo for cannons. Apparently
doesn't look very good at the moment for Ukraine.

South Korea did send some large shipment of shells though. But are they
already gone? Russia got shells from North Korea, probably poor quality
but still.

Finland has ramped up its shell production and is probably one of the
most reliable suppliers for Ukraine. The problem is that the west just
doesn't have enough production lines for shells and raising the
production levels takes time.

Some are saying that Ukraine may find it difficult to hold this year.

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*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:> E.g. Russia hasn't lost any combat readiness, in fact they're much> more ready now. Practice makes you perfect.Well, there is a quote in "Harakiri" Swordsmanship untested in battle is like the art of

swimming mastered on land.However, as we saw in that article I posted the other day, Russia issending previously injured guys to the front lines on crutches... thatcan't inspire confidence or bravery in his cohorts. Here's anotherquote from the movie:
What befalls others today, may be your own fate tomorrow.




I know many guys becoming cripples makes you happy.

However unlike you, they know why are they sacrificing and are at peace with that.

They have total respect from their countrymen and as much care as it's possible so they still end up being happy and fulfilled.

They're indeed heroes, fighting democracy, great replacement, trannies and theft of their history.


They're all Ivan Susanin.



As the opera finale says... "Life for the Tsar, Tsar is coming, Life for the Tsar"


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vO6fRblZDqE


You should really watch these 3 minutes and the endings.




And then, reaffirm it with modern stuff, why not. It will put everything in perspective.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1TqS45IF-I




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TT <TT@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r

jdeluise kirjoitti 4.3.2024 klo 20.12:> *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:> >> E.g. Russia hasn't lost any combat readiness, in fact they're much>> more ready now. Practice makes you perfect.> > Well, there is a quote in "Harakiri"> >

Swordsmanship untested in battle is like the art of swimming mastered> on land.> > However, as we saw in that article I posted the other day, Russia is> sending previously injured guys to the front lines on crutches... that> can't inspire confidence
or bravery in his cohorts. Here's another> quote from the movie:> > What befalls others today, may be your own fate tomorrow.Russia obviously running out of A-grade trained men & equipment.Unfortunately Ukraine is also running out of men, while
Russia can send their trash endlessly & has ramped up it's war production. Zelensky even asked his men back from Estonia (Kaja Kallas said no).Russia also has lots of soviet junk in warehouses. Although some of that junk may be more dangerous for
Russians than the enemy.Ukraine also has trouble with getting ammo for cannons. Apparently doesn't look very good at the moment for Ukraine.South Korea did send some large shipment of shells though. But are they already gone? Russia got shells from North
Korea, probably poor quality but still.Finland has ramped up its shell production and is probably one of the most reliable suppliers for Ukraine. The problem is that the west just doesn't have enough production lines for shells and raising the production
levels takes time.Some are saying that Ukraine may find it difficult to hold this year.




Russia can't lose.

Everyone knew that before the war.
Russians certainly did.
West knew.

Who didn't know?



They're 99% certain to win in conventional way as their land army is best in the world and the war is fought at their doorstep.

I'm very generous with 1% actually.


And if 1% indeed happens, that they lose conventional war, since russian borderlands is area of their strategic and vital interest, they'll just fire nukes and then win anyway.


If you don't believe me:

https://dailystormer.in/putin-once-again-says-hell-fire-nukes-if-these-faggots-dont-get-up-off-it/




So Russian victory is 100% certain.



Ultimately the more neonazis and liberals of Ukraine (brainwashed russkies who hate Russia) are dead, the easier for Russia it is to reincorporate their ancient territories post war.

Ultimately, Russian prewar demands will be met:

Borderlands will be free of western military installations.

And the longer the war lasts, the lesser Ukraine will be.


It's sort of punishment and the best security guarantee for the future.



There's a saying, Russian first offer at bargaining is always the best. They start with very generous offers, if you accept their first offer, you've often screwd them.

As you bargain more, you get less and less until you get nothing.

It's their mentality.




Once this war is over, Russia will punish Finland for attacking Russia.

They also didn't accept Russian offer of friendship and have attacked Russia after 80 years once more.

Enough is enough.



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On 4.3.2024 20.12, jdeluise wrote:

However, as we saw in that article I posted the other day, Russia is
sending previously injured guys to the front lines on crutches... that
can't inspire confidence or bravery in his cohorts. Here's another
quote from the movie:

What befalls others today, may be your own fate tomorrow.

Indeedski. In tennis terms, since tennis analogies is what we do: "What happened to the Saudi ambassador, could well happen to me".

https://youtu.be/Tlm_1LIbKOs?t=55

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On 4.3.2024 21.26, *skriptis wrote:

Russia can't lose.

Everyone knew that before the war.

I never believed there would be a war. I was equally surprised at the ineptitude of the three pronged attack. I was sure Russia would decimate anything Ukrainian that flies, and then bomb the living daylights out of anything that moves on the ground.

Didn't happen that way.

Russians certainly did.
West knew.

We all knew Russia the resources of Russia are on another level. It
doesn't matter whether it's t-60s or the latest and greatest. Both kill
people.

Who didn't know?

There were idiots in RST that thought HIMARS would win the war for Ukraine.

So Russian victory is 100% certain.

99%. A victory for Ukraine never was the return to the 1990 borders, as
they saw it. But sovereignity and the ability to forge their own
security arrangements is a victory. If this does not happen, it's a war
in vain for Ukraine. And aid supplied in vain by others. With
repercussions too ugly to contemplate.

Russia has played us against us. Very successfully. OTOH, we want to
help Ukraine as much as possible, OTOH we have supposed "red lines". The combination of the two has led to endless vacillation on what material
to give to Ukraine. A speedy, all out commitment would of done Russia
in. This has been pointed out several times by people who know what
they're talking about.

Now, it looks to be too late.

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Pelle Svanslös <pelle@svans.los> Wrote in message:r

On 4.3.2024 21.26, *skriptis wrote:> Russia can't lose.> > Everyone knew that before the war.I never believed there would be a war. I was equally surprised at the ineptitude of the three pronged attack. I was sure Russia would decimate anything

Ukrainian that flies, and then bomb the living daylights out of anything that moves on the ground.Didn't happen that way.> Russians certainly did.> West knew.We all knew Russia the resources of Russia are on another level. It doesn't matter whether it's
t-60s or the latest and greatest. Both kill people.> Who didn't know?There were idiots in RST that thought HIMARS would win the war for Ukraine.> So Russian victory is 100% certain.99%. A victory for Ukraine never was the return to the 1990 borders, as
they saw it. But sovereignity and the ability to forge their own security arrangements is a victory. If this does not happen, it's a war in vain for Ukraine. And aid supplied in vain by others. With repercussions too ugly to contemplate.Russia has played
us against us. Very successfully. OTOH, we want to help Ukraine as much as possible, OTOH we have supposed "red lines". The combination of the two has led to endless vacillation on what material to give to Ukraine. A speedy, all out commitment would of
done Russia in. This has been pointed out several times by people who know what they're talking about.Now, it looks to be too late.-- "And off they went, from here to there,The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"-- Traditional



You're more realistic than others but you still don't get it.

It is indeed 100% chance Russia wins.


This is not some kind of far away distant adventure or prestige.

UK in Falklands, USA/Russia in Vietnam or Afghanistan etc.



This is russian borderlands, very important piece of territory, strategically for present day Russia as a country, concerning war water ports, Crimea, defensive lines etc.

But that's just one aspect. And even more so, emotionally and historically, since it's cradle of their nation too.

And then most important, up to 50 million Russkies lived there, and in Russia itself which has 150 millions, the are perhaps max 100 million Russkies Slav (rest of are Asiatics such as Finns, Mongols, Kazakhs etc)


So out of 150 million Russkies, one third of their Rus Slavic brethren lived in Ukraine. Russia couldn't and they won't allow anti-Russian ideology and cesspit there.

It's like a gangrene on their nation.


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Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 4.3.2024 klo 21.47:

On 4.3.2024 21.26, *skriptis wrote:

Russia can't lose.

Everyone knew that before the war.

I never believed there would be a war. I was equally surprised at the ineptitude of the three pronged attack. I was sure Russia would decimate anything Ukrainian that flies, and then bomb the living daylights out of anything that moves on the ground.

Didn't happen that way.

Meanwhile I told you guys that Russia would be in world of hurt.

Russians certainly did.
West knew.

We all knew Russia the resources of Russia are on another level.  It
doesn't matter whether it's t-60s or the latest and greatest. Both kill people.

Who didn't know?

There were idiots in RST that thought HIMARS would win the war for Ukraine.

If you're trying to refer to me, I don't think I said that.

But... Ukraine did have their window of opportunity with Himars when
they blew up the Russian ammo warehouses. But you can't take back the
land by sitting still.

Now it's too late I'm afraid, Russia has mined everything and made hard
to penetrate lines.

If we're looking for a miracle weapon that could still change everything
then that would probably be F-35, but Ukraine is not getting any.

To be seen how big damage F-16 can make, and how well it can operate
against Russian air defences. But Pentagon says they're operational only
end of this year.

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TT kirjoitti 4.3.2024 klo 22.40:

To be seen how big damage F-16 can make, and how well it can operate
against Russian air defences. But Pentagon says they're operational only
end of this year.

https://x.com/Heroiam_Slava/status/1763282614235140511?s=20

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TT kirjoitti 4.3.2024 klo 22.40:

To be seen how big damage F-16 can make, and how well it can operate
against Russian air defences. But Pentagon says they're operational only
end of this year.

Hungary got a new president today. The first thing he did was to sign
Sweden to NATO, which I understand was the last hurdle for Sweden.

This means that Ukraine will probably get some Swedish JAS 39 Gripen
fighter jets too.
Gripen can use long range air-to-air Meteor missiles, has good radar and
is all in all a superb jet.

With Gripen + Meteor Ukraine will be able to deny Russian long range
fighter jets launching air-to-air missiles. With new jets Russian
low-flying sneak attacks will become harder. Radar seeking HARM missiles
of Ukraine will become deadlier.

Pretty big deal.

https://www.geostrategy.org.uk/britains-world/how-the-gripen-will-compliment-the-f-16-in-the-skies-over-ukraine/

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