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    From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 25 21:09:32 2024
    Xiaomi releases new phone.

    Your Apple is already overpriced garbage. ;(

    https://youtu.be/6aVWLfcWbAE?si=1iPaG3Utfa2S_Gv5

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 25 21:11:35 2024
    TT kirjoitti 25.2.2024 klo 21.09:
    Xiaomi releases new phone.

    Your Apple is already overpriced garbage. ;(

    https://youtu.be/6aVWLfcWbAE?si=1iPaG3Utfa2S_Gv5

    Here's the relevant part:
    https://youtu.be/6aVWLfcWbAE?t=267

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 25 23:06:10 2024
    jdeluise kirjoitti 25.2.2024 klo 22.28:
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

    Xiaomi releases new phone.

    Your Apple is already overpriced garbage. ;(

    When wasn't it? But why pick some Chinese spyware box instead?!

    South Korean spyware box is apparently also good (Samsung s24).

    Chinese technology is no more spyware than US, probably less.

    At least Chinese technology is more advanced and undoubtedly will be so
    for the coming years/decades. You do realize that US didn't put modern semiconductor sanctions on China for whatever ridiculous military
    excuses they claimed - they put it because Chinese technology is cheaper
    AND more advanced.

    A really cheap trick from the Biden administration. Trying to keep the
    economic rival/partner down by any means necessary. US has immoral
    leadership, regardless of party.

    That will backfire US in the long run though... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GG-L7WQXkAELiX5?format=png&name=small

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Sun Feb 25 21:35:32 2024
    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:> Xiaomi releases new phone.>> Your Apple is already overpriced garbage. ;(When wasn't it? But why pick some Chinese spyware box instead?!



    Chinese spyware box > Jewish spyware box that even costs more



    https://techstartups.com/2023/06/01/apple-allegedly-provides-backdoors-to-us-intelligence-agencies-to-spy-on-thousands-of-iphones-reuters-reports-citing-sources/



    Beware


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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 25 23:19:17 2024
    TT kirjoitti 25.2.2024 klo 23.06:
    jdeluise kirjoitti 25.2.2024 klo 22.28:
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

    Xiaomi releases new phone.

    Your Apple is already overpriced garbage. ;(

    When wasn't it?  But why pick some Chinese spyware box instead?!

    South Korean spyware box is apparently also good (Samsung s24).

    Chinese technology is no more spyware than US, probably less.

    At least Chinese technology is more advanced and undoubtedly will be so
    for the coming years/decades. You do realize that US didn't put modern semiconductor sanctions on China for whatever ridiculous military
    excuses they claimed - they put it because Chinese technology is cheaper
    AND more advanced.

    A really cheap trick from the Biden administration. Trying to keep the economic rival/partner down by any means necessary. US has immoral leadership, regardless of party.

    That will backfire US in the long run though... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GG-L7WQXkAELiX5?format=png&name=small

    Oh yes... Xiaomi will be available all over the world - except US. :)))

    Imagine, China has average IQ of 104...1.4 billion people... and their
    schools are focused on science, not genders. Ouch.

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Sun Feb 25 22:44:09 2024
    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    Yes, China is an amazing place. No war, no poverty or hunger. A free and open society with no censorship, and everyone is unified aroundscientific advancement. A modern day utopia.



    China hasn't waged wars in decades and neither have they expanded their military aggressive alliance.

    So indeed no war. Absolutely no war.



    Poverty and hunger are bad stuff which are present everywhere. But their life expectancy is on the rise, has been for decades so they're doing well.

    Otoh..?

    https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/why-life-expectancy-in-the-us-is-falling-202210202835





    Regarding censorship you're not in best position to criticize others.




    Bad stuff in China is death penalty, but you have it too. They also eat dogs.

    So there you are.
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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 25 23:41:18 2024
    jdeluise kirjoitti 25.2.2024 klo 23.26:
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

    TT kirjoitti 25.2.2024 klo 23.06:
    jdeluise kirjoitti 25.2.2024 klo 22.28:
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

    Xiaomi releases new phone.

    Your Apple is already overpriced garbage. ;(

    When wasn't it?  But why pick some Chinese spyware box instead?!
    South Korean spyware box is apparently also good (Samsung s24).
    Chinese technology is no more spyware than US, probably less. At
    least Chinese technology is more advanced and undoubtedly will be so
    for the coming years/decades. You do realize that US didn't put
    modern semiconductor sanctions on China for whatever ridiculous
    military excuses they claimed - they put it because Chinese
    technology is cheaper AND more advanced. A really cheap trick from
    the Biden administration. Trying to keep the economic rival/partner
    down by any means necessary. US has immoral leadership, regardless of
    party. That will backfire US in the long run though...
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GG-L7WQXkAELiX5?format=png&name=small

    Oh yes... Xiaomi will be available all over the world - except
    US. :)))

    Imagine, China has average IQ of 104...1.4 billion people... and their
    schools are focused on science, not genders. Ouch.

    Yes, China is an amazing place. No war, no poverty or hunger. A free
    and open society with no censorship, and everyone is unified around scientific advancement. A modern day utopia.

    They're doing pretty well for a semi-communist autocracy, don't you
    think...
    No immigration problem either. You can probably walk freely without
    bodyguards too. No bums on the street. So there are lots of positives to
    offset the negatives.

    Anyway, we were talking about economy here. China is the largest trading partner for 120/195 countries in the world. Growing middle class.
    Gaining more foothold in Global South & of course developing Asia. I
    have no doubt they will be the world's largest economy in coming years -
    and already are measured by PPP GDP.

    https://x.com/Kanthan2030/status/1759935473072664937?s=20

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 25 23:55:03 2024
    *skriptis kirjoitti 25.2.2024 klo 23.44:
    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    Yes, China is an amazing place. No war, no poverty or hunger. A free and open society with no censorship, and everyone is unified aroundscientific advancement. A modern day utopia.



    China hasn't waged wars in decades and neither have they expanded their military aggressive alliance.

    So indeed no war. Absolutely no war.


    Yes. From memory... the last "war" China had was in 1979. It lasted a
    month and ended to China withdrawing troops from Vietnam.

    US?

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 26 00:35:15 2024
    jdeluise kirjoitti 26.2.2024 klo 0.17:
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

    jdeluise kirjoitti 25.2.2024 klo 23.26:
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

    TT kirjoitti 25.2.2024 klo 23.06:
    jdeluise kirjoitti 25.2.2024 klo 22.28:
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

    Xiaomi releases new phone.

    Your Apple is already overpriced garbage. ;(

    When wasn't it?  But why pick some Chinese spyware box instead?!
    South Korean spyware box is apparently also good (Samsung s24).
    Chinese technology is no more spyware than US, probably less. At
    least Chinese technology is more advanced and undoubtedly will be
    so for the coming years/decades. You do realize that US didn't put
    modern semiconductor sanctions on China for whatever ridiculous
    military excuses they claimed - they put it because Chinese
    technology is cheaper AND more advanced. A really cheap trick from
    the Biden administration. Trying to keep the economic rival/partner
    down by any means necessary. US has immoral leadership, regardless
    of party. That will backfire US in the long run though...
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GG-L7WQXkAELiX5?format=png&name=small

    Oh yes... Xiaomi will be available all over the world - except
    US. :)))

    Imagine, China has average IQ of 104...1.4 billion people... and
    their schools are focused on science, not genders. Ouch.
    Yes, China is an amazing place. No war, no poverty or hunger. A
    free and open society with no censorship, and everyone is unified
    around scientific advancement. A modern day utopia.

    They're doing pretty well for a semi-communist autocracy, don't you
    think... No immigration problem either. You can probably walk freely
    without bodyguards too. No bums on the street. So there are lots of
    positives to offset the negatives.

    Who needs a bodyguard when you can walk around with an AK47 here?

    You have a point there. :)


    Anyway, we were talking about economy here. China is the largest
    trading partner for 120/195 countries in the world. Growing middle
    class. Gaining more foothold in Global South & of course developing
    Asia. I have no doubt they will be the world's largest economy in
    coming years - and already are measured by PPP GDP.

    https://x.com/Kanthan2030/status/1759935473072664937?s=20

    Awesome.

    I think so too.

    Then again, you could argue that US is even cheaper place to live... as nowadays one doesn't even have to pay for the merchandise in shops. Just
    walk in and take what you want. Now *that* is some extreme socialism
    right there.

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 26 19:57:54 2024
    On 26/02/2024 6:09 am, TT wrote:
    Xiaomi releases new phone.

    Your Apple is already overpriced garbage. ;(

    https://youtu.be/6aVWLfcWbAE?si=1iPaG3Utfa2S_Gv5


    Very happy with my last 2 iphones since switching from Samsung.
    Everything works seamlessly zero stress or hassles. The air pods are
    great, read emails and chats to you, pause when someone talks to you,
    noise cancel as well as transparency, switch automatically between ipad
    and iphone. The ultra watch is amazing as well as ipad pro M1, will
    prob upgrade to M3 ipad next month when it comes out will have OLED
    screen, though hard to imagine a better screen quality than what I have,
    will pass down M1 to the wife. The video quality is stunning, I think
    all the reviews agree Apple is no.1 in video quality no matter the specs
    on these cheaper phones you link.

    I'm not wedded to any technology company but will need a very compelling
    reason to leave Apple. Samsung was good but well behind Apple in
    reliability. They allow too much customization and dodgy apps that slow
    and bog down your system, and I experienced screen freezing issues after
    a couple years. When you factor everything into the user experience I
    don't think Apple is overpriced at all. I'll pay a premium for quality
    and reliability, life is too short to have unnecessary stress in your
    life. What's a few more k in your bank acct when you die?

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 26 14:43:34 2024
    Whisper kirjoitti 26.2.2024 klo 10.57:
    On 26/02/2024 6:09 am, TT wrote:
    Xiaomi releases new phone.

    Your Apple is already overpriced garbage. ;(

    https://youtu.be/6aVWLfcWbAE?si=1iPaG3Utfa2S_Gv5


    Very happy with my last 2 iphones since switching from Samsung.
    Everything works seamlessly zero stress or hassles.  The air pods are
    great, read emails and chats to you, pause when someone talks to you,
    noise cancel as well as transparency, switch automatically between ipad
    and iphone.  The ultra watch is amazing as well as ipad pro M1, will
    prob upgrade to M3 ipad next month when it comes out will have OLED
    screen, though hard to imagine a better screen quality than what I have,
     will pass down M1 to the wife.

    Imo Android is better than ios. Better phone functionality and
    compatibility with PC.

    The video quality is stunning, I think
    all the reviews agree Apple is no.1 in video quality no matter the specs
    on these cheaper phones you link.


    Good that you like it.

    All the reviews however tell that Samsung S24 has better video quality
    than Apple 15 pro max, and Xiaomi Ultra exceeds that. Cameras at Samsung
    & Xiaomi are simply better.

    As do the specs:

    Apple: 4K-60fps
    Samsung/Xiaomi: 4K-120fps AND 8K-30fps

    At 2K Apple & Samsung can do 240fps... Xiaomi 1920fps!!!
    Not sure what that is all about, maybe some super slow video capability
    for Xiaomi.

    Rest of the specs also follow the pattern Xiaomi > Samsung > Apple

    https://m.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=12548&idPhone2=12771 https://m.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=12771&idPhone2=12827

    As for the price (link above), Apple and Samsung are equally priced at
    1200+ euros, while Xiaomi Ultra is 1500.

    I'm not wedded to any technology company but will need a very compelling reason to leave Apple. Samsung was good but well behind Apple in reliability.  They allow too much customization and dodgy apps that slow
    and bog down your system, and I experienced screen freezing issues after
    a couple years.   When you factor everything into the user experience I don't think Apple is overpriced at all.  I'll pay a premium for quality
    and reliability, life is too short to have unnecessary stress in your
    life.  What's a few more k in your bank acct when you die?

    Yes. Couple hundreds here or there makes little difference... If I was
    to buy a new phone I'd definitely pick Xiaomi, best phone of the three,
    with huge edge to Apple in every respect.

    And I think it's just damn beautiful phone. Reminds me of HAL 9000...

    https://i.gadgets360cdn.com/large/xiaomi_13_ultra_green_1701327140919.jpg

    https://youtu.be/WxJZOe-IKhQ?si=ZXhLw2lTb_ANCQSQ

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 26 23:29:17 2024
    TT kirjoitti 26.2.2024 klo 14.43:

    https://i.gadgets360cdn.com/large/xiaomi_13_ultra_green_1701327140919.jpg


    This is actually Xiaomi 13 Ultra, not the newest 14...

    But what a beautiful phone. I actually looked at buying one but all all
    out of stores here. Apparently Zelensky had said a while ago that the
    firm is helping Russian invasion by selling phones... what a fucking
    dickhead.
    It's not sanctioned in EU but some daily paper here called to sellers
    and asked if they'll continue selling it because of what Zelensky said.
    They apparently didn't then order more. Imagine, Zelensky and some
    activist reporter decide what is sanctioned here. Jesus.

    I can find one on German ebay... 950 euros... and apparently comes
    straight from China... ummm...

    Anyway Whisper... you don't have to buy *another* expensive phone just
    because I found a slightly better one in China... :)

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 27 00:10:43 2024
    TT kirjoitti 26.2.2024 klo 23.29:
    I can find one on German ebay... 950 euros... and apparently comes
    straight from China... ummm...

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006269444573.html

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 27 23:40:54 2024
    On 27/02/2024 8:29 am, TT wrote:
    TT kirjoitti 26.2.2024 klo 14.43:

    https://i.gadgets360cdn.com/large/xiaomi_13_ultra_green_1701327140919.jpg


    This is actually Xiaomi 13 Ultra, not the newest 14...

    But what a beautiful phone. I actually looked at buying one but all all
    out of stores here. Apparently Zelensky had said a while ago that the
    firm is helping Russian invasion by selling phones... what a fucking dickhead.
    It's not sanctioned in EU but some daily paper here called to sellers
    and asked if they'll continue selling it because of what Zelensky said.
    They apparently didn't then order more. Imagine, Zelensky and some
    activist reporter decide what is sanctioned here. Jesus.

    I can find one on German ebay... 950 euros... and apparently comes
    straight from China... ummm...

    Anyway Whisper... you don't have to buy *another* expensive phone just because I found a slightly better one in China... :)


    I'm far from convinced it's better. All I know is I had hassles with
    Samsung and all my apple products are smooth sailing since I switched.
    Why risk trying another brand that I'm certain will disappoint me in
    several ways?

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 27 20:46:06 2024
    Whisper kirjoitti 27.2.2024 klo 14.40:
    On 27/02/2024 8:29 am, TT wrote:
    TT kirjoitti 26.2.2024 klo 14.43:

    https://i.gadgets360cdn.com/large/xiaomi_13_ultra_green_1701327140919.jpg >>>

    This is actually Xiaomi 13 Ultra, not the newest 14...

    But what a beautiful phone. I actually looked at buying one but all
    all out of stores here. Apparently Zelensky had said a while ago that
    the firm is helping Russian invasion by selling phones... what a
    fucking dickhead.
    It's not sanctioned in EU but some daily paper here called to sellers
    and asked if they'll continue selling it because of what Zelensky
    said. They apparently didn't then order more. Imagine, Zelensky and
    some activist reporter decide what is sanctioned here. Jesus.

    I can find one on German ebay... 950 euros... and apparently comes
    straight from China... ummm...

    Anyway Whisper... you don't have to buy *another* expensive phone just
    because I found a slightly better one in China... :)


    I'm far from convinced it's better.  All I know is I had hassles with Samsung and all my apple products are smooth sailing since I switched.
    Why risk trying another brand that I'm certain will disappoint me in
    several ways?

    I've had no problems with Samsung.
    Using currently old Iphone though.

    Some problems with it...

    -NO BACK-BUTTON! This is a *massive* minus for usability. Yes I know
    swipe, but it doesn't work in everything & doesn't close an app.

    -Can't close all applications at once, have to tap action button to get
    away from app, then double-tap it to show active apps, then swipe all
    apps away one by one.

    -Screwed up file system, can't name own directories etc.

    -Difficulty moving files with cable from PC => iphone, need to use
    itunes crapola, it's a hassle.

    -5GB free icloud, but needed to give credit card number anyway.

    -compatibility with Windows apps?

    -Siri sucks

    ...The good:
    -Good camera & video

    -At least the crapola Itunes makes a backup.

    -swipe

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