• Re: Russia got richer even as the war in Ukraine raged on last year, wh

    From *skriptis@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Sat Feb 24 07:28:35 2024
    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:> jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:>> https://www.businessinsider.com/war-in-ukraine-russia-richer-millionaires-billionaires-uhnw-wealth-ubs-
    2023-8>>> US will be the one looking for a way outAverage Russians didn't get> richer, maybe Putin did.>> Average national debt for Americans is multiplying, while Russia> is getting richer.Yes yes, I know you love to glorify Russia... here's an
    interestingread...https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/conservative-family-disappointed-moving-russia-001517915.html




    You should pick your anti-Russian propaganda better because in this link you posted, other than language barrier, bank issues and his allegedly conservative woman insulting officials and Russia (arrogance carried from the West) the guy ended with this
    message:


    "Despite criticism, he asserted: "We are perfectly happy here, we're not planning on leaving here, we're not stuck here, we're not hostages."

    Encouraging others to consider a similar move, Arend touted Russia's perceived openness to welcoming American families, "especially large families, Christian farming families, conservative people."

    "There's tons of land and opportunity here," he added."



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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Sat Feb 24 07:32:53 2024
    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    btw, more money to go around with all those casualties! They certainlydon't care for their woundedsoldiers.. https://www.newsweek.com/russian-soldiers-only-compensation-war-injuries-was-vegetables-report-1855982



    That's why Russia should let Jewish Biden to conquer them, he would care about their soldiers, is that what you're saying?

    Guess what, Russians don't buy it. Everyone is best taking care of their own.

    This monstrosity would not and does not have Russia's best interests at heart.


    https://www.dailysabah.com/world/americas/backlash-after-us-president-biden-reaffirms-himself-as-zionist


    Zionist = very bad and evil Jew



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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Sat Feb 24 08:13:15 2024
    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    "It depends on how you read it.




    I've read that they apologised.

    They had bank issues with transferring their funds from Canada, no suprise there, Russia is sanctioned by the Jewish West, it was very much expected that there would issues with bank transfers.

    But his supposedly "conservative" wife didn't behave as such.



    "However, their hopes of starting anew quickly turned into a nightmare upon arrival in Russia as their bank accounts, filled with the proceeds from selling their rural Canadian farm, were unexpectedly frozen due to "suspicious" activity, leaving them
    stranded and helpless in a country where they couldn't speak the language.

    Anneesa's frustration boiled over, leading to a regrettable outburst against their new home, which only worsened their situation when Kremlin officials took offense. In a since-deleted YouTube video, the mom of eight said she was "very disappointed in
    this country at this point."

    She added, per Daily Mail: "I'm ready to jump on a plane and get out of here. We've hit the first snag where you have to engage logic in this country, and it's very, very frustrating.


    (That's the point, in Russia you don't use logic, and entitlement, especially if you come from a hostile country, and Canada is listed by Russia as a hostile country. It's amazing that Russia would even take refugees from Canada. So those who come should
    behave properly and with Christian humility, especially if they claim to be Christians and humble. I guess they'll learn in time to actually be conservative. She can give birth to 10 kids, but if she acts like a bitch, she's not a conservative.)


    But it seems it's fine now?
    They acknowledged their mistake.


    However, in a subsequent update, Arend issued an apology, acknowledging that their "thoughts aren't always conveyed properly." He added that their funds had been unfrozen, and despite the challenges, they remain committed to building a new life in Russia
    "for the long haul."



    Why don't you assume it was some kind of shit test by the Russian authorities?

    Similarly to how med students are exposed to, and forced to deal with corpses and blood very early on to filter out those with no stomach.

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Sat Feb 24 12:58:44 2024
    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:> jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:>>"It depends on how you read it.>>>>> I've read that they apologised.>> They had bank issues with transferring their funds from Canada, no> suprise there,
    Russia is sanctioned by the Jewish West, it was very> much expected that there would issues with bank transfers.>> But his supposedly "conservative" wife didn't behave as such.>>>> "However, their hopes of starting anew quickly turned into a nightmare>
    upon arrival in Russia as their bank accounts, filled with the> proceeds from selling their rural Canadian farm, were unexpectedly> frozen due to "suspicious" activity, leaving them stranded and> helpless in a country where they couldn't speak the
    language.>> Anneesa's frustration boiled over, leading to a regrettable outburst> against their new home, which only worsened their situation when> Kremlin officials took offense. In a since-deleted YouTube video, the> mom of eight said she was "very
    disappointed in this country at this> point.">> She added, per Daily Mail: "I'm ready to jump on a plane and get out> of here. We've hit the first snag where you have to engage logic in> this country, and it's very, very frustrating.>>> (That's the point,
    in Russia you don't use logic, and entitlement,> especially if you come from a hostile country, and Canada is listed by> Russia as a hostile country. It's amazing that Russia would even take> refugees from Canada. So those who come should behave
    properly and> with Christian humility, especially if they claim to be Christians and> humble. I guess they'll learn in time to actually be conservative. She> can give birth to 10 kids, but if she acts like a bitch, she's not a> conservative.)>>> But it
    seems it's fine now? They acknowledged their mistake.>>> However, in a subsequent update, Arend issued an apology,> acknowledging that their "thoughts aren't always conveyed properly."> He added that their funds had been unfrozen, and despite the>
    challenges, they remain committed to building a new life in Russia> "for the long haul.">>>> Why don't you assume it was some kind of shit test by the Russian> authorities?>> Similarly to how med students are exposed to, and forced to deal with> corpses
    and blood very early on to filter out those with no stomach.As I said, there is more than one way to read it. It's hard to overlookthe fact he's put himself in a compromising position.. moving to aforeign country with no assistance, inability to speak
    the language,probably a weak understanding of the laws (other than the LGBTQ ones!) andculture. And with a wife and girls. Frozen funds and a visit fromauthorities would be enough to convince most people in that situation tocomply.One thing I don't
    understand is why would a beet farmer need the'gubmint and laws to save him from all those LGBTQ thingies?



    He's afraid they'd come after his kids.



    In Russia, that won't happen. LGBT extremists are imprisoned.


    https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/02/15/russia-first-convictions-under-lgbt-extremist-ruling



    In Russia, if you advocate kids should be turned gay, you go to prison.

    It's fair, no?



    Some of it...


    "Under Russian criminal law, a person found guilty of displaying extremist group symbols faces up to 15 days in detention for the first offense and up to four years in prison for a repeat offense."

    (So very easy on first offense, and if they do not become reasonable, much harder later)


    "Participating in or financing an extremist organization is punishable by up to 12 years in prison."


    "The authorities may include individuals suspected of involvement with an extremist organization in the countrywide “list of extremists” and freeze their bank accounts."


    "People deemed to be involved with an extremist organization are barred from running for public office."



    This is how you deal with extremists.







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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Sat Feb 24 15:55:19 2024
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    You mean gravity, not windows?




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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Sat Feb 24 18:38:16 2024
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    On 2/24/24 8:40 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:> jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:>> I don't watch Tucker, don't like the guy, also you are reading and> sharing links made by us. We should have
    learned already that news are> fake. Let's take a look, this war has been going for years now. It> doesn't make sense what the news and reports say about the unreal huge> cost Russia is having in this war, because it has been almost steady> and balanced.
    In a war like this, if the war costs the first party 1x> dollars, it's far fetched to cost the other party 10x-20x. So whatever> the cost Russia is paying, Ukraine is paying the same and it's> materialized in the cost of weapons, economy and
    infrastructure> destruction. Now tell me, is the West letting Ukraine pay for this> war by itself, knowing Russia is spending 20x (based on our news and> reports) while the USA is paying 1x?Predictable "the facts don't match my uninformed opinion, sothe
    media must be lying" response. Get some new material.> I am not brainwashed yet. There is something called logic that almost disappeared from our dictionary these days.> But feel free to discuss my post above if it makes any sense to you.> I am sure it
    hit you hard :)Everyone has feelings/preferences. It's part of being a human.It's also common for people to think of their feelings/preferences as moral precepts founded by some kind of absolute authority, and hence *right*.OK, fine: no way around this
    that I can see.But when examining an issue and position, *logic* comes first. Then, with some level of understanding of the issue, people can indulge their feelings/preferences.If they do it that way, they'll at least thoroughly understand what it is
    that they don't like and think is immoral. I think that most of the time, many people just reflexive respond to the surface presentation of an issue, and are hence easily manipulated.Or here, on RST, they just don't like *who* stated the position, and
    respond negatively simply to poke at the person they don't like.




    No. It's 'enemy of my enemy is a friend of mine" and "enemy of my friend is a enemy of mine" and "friend of my enemy is an enemy of mine" and "friend of my friend is a friend of mine".


    People who want gays, trannys, abortion, social collapse, white genocide, dark people replacement and Jewish hegemony know that their enemy is Putin, meaning Russia.

    So his Trump is largely their enemy too.



    jdeluise wants Russians to be exposed to diversity of worst kind, to LGBT, he wants Jews to run Russia as they run America etc.


    So let's not complicate things. We're not naive.

    Nobody buys the idea that e.g. jdeluise is afraid of nuclear war. On the contrary, he's belligerent towards Russia precisely because he's not afraid of nuclear war.

    Haven't you read his recent post "we lost 0 soldiers and we killed many Russians and their borderlanders (Ukrainians)".


    We wants others to be as miserable as he is.






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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Sun Feb 25 00:26:26 2024
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    Okay, why don't you tell us in your own words "what's going on betweenChina and Russia" and how is that emblematic of a major globaleconomic shift? They are teaming to unsettle the dominance of the dollar.https://www.orfonline.org/expert-speak/can-
    russia-and-china-unseat-the-dollar-from-its-thronePlus this below has been going with certain political goals set for long term dominancehttps://www.bbc.com/news/business-65140363----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/
    usenet/index.html




    From your posts, one might conclude the following.

    1) dollar is a force of good
    2) jdeluise doesn't get that dollar is losing



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  • From Custos Custodum@21:1/5 to waleed.khedr@gmail.com on Mon Feb 26 00:43:23 2024
    On Fri, 23 Feb 2024 23:10:00 -0500 (EST), PeteWasLucky
    <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:

    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:> https://www.businessinsider.com/war-in-ukraine-russia-richer-millionaires-billionaires-uhnw-wealth-ubs-2023-8>> US will be the one looking for a way outAverage Russians didn't get richer, maybe Putin did.

    Average national debt for Americans is multiplying, while Russia
    is getting richer.

    Some individual Russians might be getting richer (which is what the
    original bank report was about) but Russia is heading for bankruptcy,
    if the Kremlin's own data can be trusted.

    https://tinyurl.com/preview/23dr25o6

    It's easier to read if you download the .xls spreadsheet. Russia has
    posted massive budget deficits in the past two years but cannot borrow anywhere, so they're balancing the books by raiding the piggy bank
    (AKA Sovereign Wealth Fund) and selling some of their gold reserves.
    That can't last long.
    You may have noticed that the IMF have raised their projection of
    Russian GDP growth this year. That's not as good as it sounds either.
    Here's the scoop from the horse's mouth (a turn of phrase and no
    reflection on the lady concerned):

    https://youtu.be/CmKeP0DXTLo?t=462

    Trouble ahead!

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=C3=B6s?=@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Mon Feb 26 12:35:24 2024
    On 24.2.2024 3.28, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    https://www.businessinsider.com/war-in-ukraine-russia-richer-millionaires-billionaires-uhnw-wealth-ubs-2023-8

    US will be the one looking for a way out

    Not for economic reasons. The war doesn't tilt the US economy one way or another. The value of assets/wealth, OTOH, is appreciated or depreciated
    all the time. By reasons other than the war.

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 26 15:04:45 2024
    Custos Custodum kirjoitti 26.2.2024 klo 2.43:
    You may have noticed that the IMF have raised their projection of
    Russian GDP growth this year. That's not as good as it sounds either.
    Here's the scoop from the horse's mouth (a turn of phrase and no
    reflection on the lady concerned):

    https://youtu.be/CmKeP0DXTLo?t=462

    Trouble ahead!

    Yep.

    War economy GDP is rather misleading... Now let's say that you
    manufacture cannon shells, transport them to the front and shoot them
    away. GDP increased...

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  • From Custos Custodum@21:1/5 to waleed.khedr@gmail.com on Thu Mar 14 22:09:03 2024
    On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 22:48:05 -0500 (EST), PeteWasLucky
    <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:

    Custos Custodum <me@privacy.net> Wrote in message:r
    On Fri, 23 Feb 2024 23:10:00 -0500 (EST), PeteWasLucky<waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:>jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:> https://www.businessinsider.com/war-in-ukraine-russia-richer-
    millionaires-billionaires-uhnw-wealth-ubs-2023-8>> US will be the one looking for a way outAverage Russians didn't get richer, maybe Putin did.>>Average national debt for Americans is multiplying, while Russia> is getting richer.Some individual Russians
    might be getting richer (which is what theoriginal bank report was about) but Russia is heading for bankruptcy,if the Kremlin's own data can be trusted.https://tinyurl.com/preview/23dr25o6It's easier to read if you download the .xls spreadsheet. Russia
    hasposted massive budget deficits in the past two years but cannot borrowanywhere, so they're balancing the books by raiding the piggy bank(AKA Sovereign Wealth Fund) and selling some of their gold reserves.That can't last long.You may have
    noticed that the IMF have raised their projection ofRussian GDP growth this year. That's not as good as it sounds either.Here's the scoop from the horse's mouth (a turn of phrase and noreflection on the lady concerned):https://youtu.be/CmKeP0DXTLo?t=
    462Trouble ahead!

    Are you talking about USA increasingly national deficit?

    Or are you talking about external debt to gdp % of Russia vs USA ?

    No, I was specifically referring to the claim you quoted that "Russia"
    was getting richer. In fact, the Russian economy is going down the
    tubes. Well done, Vlad!

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