• Sinner beats Djoker twice in one day! get him that slam winning coach n

    From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 25 11:21:08 2023
    He definitely needs that slam winning coach asap, although of course Court1 knows best when she said Sinner is nothing special and hasn't got any good/interesting aspects to his game, cos today he only just beat Djoker twice in one day(singles and
    doubles) and is only person in history to beat Djoker from 3 matchpoints against him! LOL

    Have to say wanted Djoker to win cos he rightly told all the woke British fans who booed him to shutup, but very amazingly done to Sinner, especially as this means Italy can go through to next round(again this wasn't really a final cos they got to play
    some other country next).

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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Sat Nov 25 15:55:32 2023
    On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 2:21:11 PM UTC-5, The Iceberg wrote:
    He definitely needs that slam winning coach asap, although of course Court1 knows best when she said Sinner is nothing special and hasn't got any good/interesting aspects to his game, cos today he only just beat Djoker twice in one day(singles and
    doubles) and is only person in history to beat Djoker from 3 matchpoints against him! LOL

    Have to say wanted Djoker to win cos he rightly told all the woke British fans who booed him to shutup, but very amazingly done to Sinner, especially as this means Italy can go through to next round(again this wasn't really a final cos they got to play
    some other country next).
    I heard Djokovic couldn't convert three match points, he must be a choker :)

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  • From gap@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Sat Nov 25 15:56:08 2023
    On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 2:21:11 PM UTC-5, The Iceberg wrote:
    He definitely needs that slam winning coach asap, although of course Court1 knows best when she said Sinner is nothing special and hasn't got any good/interesting aspects to his game, cos today he only just beat Djoker twice in one day(singles and
    doubles) and is only person in history to beat Djoker from 3 matchpoints against him! LOL

    Have to say wanted Djoker to win cos he rightly told all the woke British fans who booed him to shutup, but very amazingly done to Sinner, especially as this means Italy can go through to next round(again this wasn't really a final cos they got to play
    some other country next).

    Djoker was serving for the match at 40-0, lost it! 3 match points?

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Sun Nov 26 08:22:22 2023
    The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    He definitely needs that slam winning coach asap, although of course Court1 knows best when she said Sinner is nothing special and hasn't got any good/interesting aspects to his game, cos today he only just beat Djoker twice in one day(singles and
    doubles) and is only person in history to beat Djoker from 3 matchpoints against him! LOLHave to say wanted Djoker to win cos he rightly told all the woke British fans who booed him to shutup, but very amazingly done to Sinner, especially as this means
    Italy can go through to next round(again this wasn't really a final cos they got to play some other country next).



    He should never be against free speech.

    Federer told Novak's parent to shut up, losses three big slam matches to Novak with 40-15 match points.

    Djokovic now tells British fans to shut up, loses immediately with 40-0 match points.


    It's ok to insult someone if they were rude, or show them your ear, but silencing anyone and being against free speech is a no-no.


    You will be humiliated through wasted match points.


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  • From MBDunc@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 26 00:45:37 2023
    On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 9:22:25 AM UTC+2, *skriptis wrote:
    The Iceberg Wrote in message:r
    He definitely needs that slam winning coach asap, although of course Court1 knows best when she said Sinner is nothing special and hasn't got any good/interesting aspects to his game, cos today he only just beat Djoker twice in one day(singles and
    doubles) and is only person in history to beat Djoker from 3 matchpoints against him! LOLHave to say wanted Djoker to win cos he rightly told all the woke British fans who booed him to shutup, but very amazingly done to Sinner, especially as this means
    Italy can go through to next round(again this wasn't really a final cos they got to play some other country next).



    He should never be against free speech.

    Federer told Novak's parent to shut up, losses three big slam matches to Novak with 40-15 match points.

    Djokovic now tells British fans to shut up, loses immediately with 40-0 match points.


    It's ok to insult someone if they were rude, or show them your ear, but silencing anyone and being against free speech is a no-no.


    You will be humiliated through wasted match points.

    Connors claims in his book that he never lost a match he had match points.

    I tried to dig a counter-example but found none.

    FYi: Fed has incredible record both ways: matches won after facing match points and matches lost after having match points (smt like 22-23?)

    .mikko

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to MBDunc on Sun Nov 26 09:59:14 2023
    MBDunc <michaelb@dnainternet.net> Wrote in message:r
    On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 9:22:25 AM UTC+2, *skriptis wrote:> The Iceberg Wrote in message:r > > He definitely needs that slam winning coach asap, although of course Court1 knows best when she said Sinner is nothing special and hasn't got any
    good/interesting aspects to his game, cos today he only just beat Djoker twice in one day(singles and doubles) and is only person in history to beat Djoker from 3 matchpoints against him! LOLHave to say wanted Djoker to win cos he rightly told all the
    woke British fans who booed him to shutup, but very amazingly done to Sinner, especially as this means Italy can go through to next round(again this wasn't really a final cos they got to play some other country next). > > > > He should never be against
    free speech. > > Federer told Novak's parent to shut up, losses three big slam matches to Novak with 40-15 match points. > > Djokovic now tells British fans to shut up, loses immediately with 40-0 match points. > > > It's ok to insult someone if they
    were rude, or show them your ear, but silencing anyone and being against free speech is a no-no. > > > You will be humiliated through wasted match points. Connors claims in his book that he never lost a match he had match points.I tried to dig a counter-
    example but found none. FYi: Fed has incredible record both ways: matches won after facing match points and matches lost after having match points (smt like 22-23?).mikko




    I'd say losing control of the match is a much bigger minus for someone's record.

    E.g. it happened to Djokovic in 2010 FO quarters vs Melzer.

    6:3 6:2 2:6 6(3):7 4:6

    He claims it's one of his worst defeats.


    Or that 2020 Olympics in 2021 in SF vs Zverev? Wins first set, has a break in second and then loses.

    That's bad stuff.




    Otoh losing a game, even if you're 40-0 up on your serve is something that's not uncommon. I mean serves get broken that way too.

    It looks bad and leaves a bitter taste if it's game when you serve for the match but overall it's just a broken serve.



    I'd say it's definitely lack of mind clarity. At 40-0 you basically have 5 first serves to finish off the match, and then a second serve.

    It's a mistake not to approach the point that way.


    Maybe Djokovic was under too much stress due to blood samples controversy?


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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 26 13:03:52 2023
    gap kirjoitti 26.11.2023 klo 1.56:
    On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 2:21:11 PM UTC-5, The Iceberg wrote:
    He definitely needs that slam winning coach asap, although of course Court1 knows best when she said Sinner is nothing special and hasn't got any good/interesting aspects to his game, cos today he only just beat Djoker twice in one day(singles and
    doubles) and is only person in history to beat Djoker from 3 matchpoints against him! LOL

    Have to say wanted Djoker to win cos he rightly told all the woke British fans who booed him to shutup, but very amazingly done to Sinner, especially as this means Italy can go through to next round(again this wasn't really a final cos they got to
    play some other country next).

    Djoker was serving for the match at 40-0, lost it! 3 match points?

    Sinner has still hope for greater things. He first needs to repent for
    his sins.

    [Verse]
    Get ready for judgment day
    And the final curtain call
    Don't lie when you testify
    'Cause the good lord knows you're all

    [Chorus]
    Saints an' sinners, priests and thieves
    Saints an' sinners, priests and thieves

    [Verse]
    When Moses stood on the Red Sea shore
    Laying the law on the line
    He said don't come knocking on the pearly gates
    If all you did was have a real good time

    [Chorus]
    Saints an' sinners, priests and thieves
    Saints an' sinners, priests and thieves

    [Bridge]
    For what we are about to receive may the lord make us truly thankful
    Saints an' sinners

    [Verse]
    I stand guilty of a thousand crimes
    And I suffer temptation still
    Show me a man who won't give it to his woman
    I'll show you somebody who will

    [Chorus]
    Saints an' sinners, priests and thieves
    Saints an' sinners, priests and thieves
    C'mon!

    [Bridge]
    For what we are about to receive may the lord make us truly thankful

    [Hook]
    Saints an' sinners

    [Chorus]
    Saints an' sinners
    Priests an' thieves

    [Verse]
    Get ready for judgment day
    And the final curtain call
    Don't lie when you testify
    The good lord knows you're all

    [Chorus]
    Saints an' sinners, priests and thieves
    Saints an' sinners, priests and thieves
    Woo!
    [Bridge]
    For what we are about to receive may the lord make us truly thankful

    Get ready for judgment day
    And the final curtain call
    Don't lie when you testify
    'Cause the good lord knows you're all

    [Chorus]
    Saints an' sinners, priests and thieves
    Saints an' sinners, priests and thieves

    [Verse]
    When Moses stood on the Red Sea shore
    Laying the law on the line
    He said don't come knocking on the pearly gates
    If all you did was have a real good time

    [Chorus]
    Saints an' sinners, priests and thieves
    Saints an' sinners, priests and thieves

    [Bridge]
    For what we are about to receive may the lord make us truly thankful
    Saints an' sinners

    [Verse]
    I stand guilty of a thousand crimes
    And I suffer temptation still
    Show me a man who won't give it to his woman
    I'll show you somebody who will

    [Chorus]
    Saints an' sinners, priests and thieves
    Saints an' sinners, priests and thieves
    C'mon!

    [Bridge]
    For what we are about to receive may the lord make us truly thankful

    [Hook]
    Saints an' sinners

    [Chorus]
    Saints an' sinners
    Priests an' thieves

    [Verse]
    Get ready for judgment day
    And the final curtain call
    Don't lie when you testify
    The good lord knows you're all

    [Chorus]
    Saints an' sinners, priests and thieves
    Saints an' sinners, priests and thieves
    Woo!
    [Bridge]
    For what we are about to receive may the lord make us truly thankful

    [Chorus]
    Saints an' sinners
    Priests and thieves
    Saints an' sinners
    Saints an' sinners
    Saints an' sinners
    Saints an' sinners
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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 27 00:10:58 2023
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  • From grif@21:1/5 to Whisper on Sun Nov 26 14:56:05 2023
    On 26/11/2023 13:10, Whisper wrote:
    On 26/11/2023 7:59 pm, *skriptis wrote:
    MBDunc <michaelb@dnainternet.net> Wrote in message:r
    On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 9:22:25 AM UTC+2, *skriptis wrote:> The Iceberg Wrote in message:r > > He definitely needs that slam winning coach asap, although of course Court1 knows best when she said Sinner is nothing special and hasn't got any
    good/interesting aspects to his game, cos today he only just beat Djoker twice in one day(singles and doubles) and is only person in history to beat Djoker from 3 matchpoints against him! LOLHave to say wanted Djoker to win cos he rightly told all the
    woke British fans who booed him to shutup, but very amazingly done to Sinner, especially as this means Italy can go through to next round(again this wasn't really a final cos they got to play some other country next). > > > > He should never be against
    free speech. > > Federer told Novak's parent to shut up, losses three big slam matches to Novak with 40-15 match points. > > Djokovic now tells British fans to shut up, loses immediately with 40-0 match points. > > > It's ok to
    insult someone if they were rude, or show them your ear, but silencing anyone and being against free speech is a no-no. > > > You will be humiliated through wasted match points. Connors claims in his book that he never lost a match he had match
    points.I tried to dig a counter-example but found none. FYi: Fed has incredible record both ways: matches won after facing match points and matches lost after having match points (smt like 22-23?).mikko




    I'd say losing control of the match is a much bigger minus for someone's record.

    E.g. it happened to Djokovic in 2010 FO quarters vs Melzer.

    6:3 6:2 2:6 6(3):7 4:6

    He claims it's one of his worst defeats.


    Or that 2020 Olympics in 2021 in SF vs Zverev? Wins first set, has a break in second and then loses.

    That's bad stuff.




    Otoh losing a game, even if you're 40-0 up on your serve is something that's not uncommon. I mean serves get broken that way too.

    It looks bad and leaves a bitter taste if it's game when you serve for the match but overall it's just a broken serve.



    I'd say it's definitely lack of mind clarity. At 40-0 you basically have 5 first serves to finish off the match, and then a second serve.

    It's a mistake not to approach the point that way.


    Maybe Djokovic was under too much stress due to blood samples controversy? >>





    Novak didn't serve for the match.  He had Sinner down 0-40.  That 1st mp I thought Novak would win as he was really hammering the ball in a long power rally, somehow Sinner won the point and was fist pumping like he was gonna win the match - that
    attitude is good to see from him.  After that it was mostly Sinner's huge serving that won that game, massive ace to win it.  Novak led 30-15 next game but Sinner broke him after a poor net approach and Sinner hammered the pass.

    It was the 4th time Novak lost a match after having mp's.  That's pretty good given how many matches he's played over 20 years.  I think Federer lost about 24 matches after having mp?  Connors reckons he's never lost a match, but I think there was
    at least 1.



    Fed's record from losing a match after having match points is 25. I think it'll be safe for a long time.

    Yeah, Sinner's serve helped bail him out. It's been the most important change that's propelled Jannik's game towards the top. His recent results against the best have been ludicrous. When Sinner puked in his match against Dimi in China, he merely removed
    weakness from his body, lol. https://www.reddit.com/r/tennis/comments/183syz6/nice_little_club_to_be_part_of/

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  • From gap@21:1/5 to Whisper on Sun Nov 26 07:29:47 2023
    On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 8:11:20 AM UTC-5, Whisper wrote:
    On 26/11/2023 7:59 pm, *skriptis wrote:
    MBDunc <mich...@dnainternet.net> Wrote in message:r
    On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 9:22:25 AM UTC+2, *skriptis wrote:> The Iceberg Wrote in message:r > > He definitely needs that slam winning coach asap, although of course Court1 knows best when she said Sinner is nothing special and hasn't got
    any good/interesting aspects to his game, cos today he only just beat Djoker twice in one day(singles and doubles) and is only person in history to beat Djoker from 3 matchpoints against him! LOLHave to say wanted Djoker to win cos he rightly told all
    the woke British fans who booed him to shutup, but very amazingly done to Sinner, especially as this means Italy can go through to next round(again this wasn't really a final cos they got to play some other country next). > > > > He should never be
    against free speech. > > Federer told Novak's parent to shut up, losses three big slam matches to Novak with 40-15 match points. > > Djokovic now tells British fans to shut up, loses immediately with 40-0 match points. > > > It's ok to insult someone if
    they were rude, or show them your ear, but silencing anyone and being against free speech is a no-no. > > > You will be humiliated through wasted match points. Connors claims in his book that he never lost a match he had match points.I tried to dig a
    counter-example but found none. FYi: Fed has incredible record both ways: matches won after facing match points and matches lost after having match points (smt like 22-23?).mikko




    I'd say losing control of the match is a much bigger minus for someone's record.

    E.g. it happened to Djokovic in 2010 FO quarters vs Melzer.

    6:3 6:2 2:6 6(3):7 4:6

    He claims it's one of his worst defeats.


    Or that 2020 Olympics in 2021 in SF vs Zverev? Wins first set, has a break in second and then loses.

    That's bad stuff.




    Otoh losing a game, even if you're 40-0 up on your serve is something that's not uncommon. I mean serves get broken that way too.

    It looks bad and leaves a bitter taste if it's game when you serve for the match but overall it's just a broken serve.



    I'd say it's definitely lack of mind clarity. At 40-0 you basically have 5 first serves to finish off the match, and then a second serve.

    It's a mistake not to approach the point that way.


    Maybe Djokovic was under too much stress due to blood samples controversy?


    Novak didn't serve for the match. He had Sinner down 0-40. That 1st mp
    I thought Novak would win as he was really hammering the ball in a long power rally, somehow Sinner won the point and was fist pumping like he
    was gonna win the match - that attitude is good to see from him. After
    that it was mostly Sinner's huge serving that won that game, massive ace
    to win it. Novak led 30-15 next game but Sinner broke him after a poor
    net approach and Sinner hammered the pass.

    It was the 4th time Novak lost a match after having mp's. That's pretty
    good given how many matches he's played over 20 years. I think Federer
    lost about 24 matches after having mp? Connors reckons he's never lost
    a match, but I think there was at least 1.

    Unforced error!

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    The Iceberg <iceber...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    He definitely needs that slam winning coach asap, although of course Court1 knows best when she said Sinner is nothing special and hasn't got any good/interesting aspects to his game, cos today he only just beat Djoker twice in one day(singles and
    doubles) and is only person in history to beat Djoker from 3 matchpoints against him! LOLHave to say wanted Djoker to win cos he rightly told all the woke British fans who booed him to shutup, but very amazingly done to Sinner, especially as this means
    Italy can go through to next round(again this wasn't really a final cos they got to play some other country next).



    He should never be against free speech.

    Federer told Novak's parent to shut up, losses three big slam matches to Novak with 40-15 match points.

    Djokovic now tells British fans to shut up, loses immediately with 40-0 match points.


    It's ok to insult someone if they were rude, or show them your ear, but silencing anyone and being against free speech is a no-no.


    You will be humiliated through wasted match points.


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    So telling the crowds to shut up results in the player losing the match after having many match points? :)

    Btw, Novak retired the match after Federer yelled at Novak's parents, but Djokovic lost the match after yelling at the crowds :)

    Then what's new, Djokovic yells at the crowds all the time.

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