• A day of atonement for SInner

    From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=C3=B6s?=@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 19 21:02:17 2023
    Yep. That's how it goes.

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  • From grif@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 19 23:37:47 2023
    On 19/11/2023 19:02, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    Yep. That's how it goes.


    Sinner will be fine. I was very impressed with the way he was playing during the week and he probably would have been favourite against Alcaraz on this court.

    So looking at the photos in the following links, Sinner looks to have grown a bit. He's taller than both Djoker and Rune who are listed as 6'2". I think he also plays with contacts because I've seen him with spectacles off the court.
    https://www.atptour.com/en/news/sinner-turin-2023-final-reaction https://www.reddit.com/r/tennis/comments/17xwkin/rune_expressing_humility/

    Some articles about the legend that is Nole the Great. https://www.tennis.com/news/articles/new-era-same-emperor-novak-djokovic-reigns-supreme-in-turin
    https://www.atptour.com/en/news/ivanisevic-nitto-atp-finals-2023-final-reaction

    You know, there's something supernatural about what Novak is achieving at his age. It's like he went down to the crossroads or visited a brujo.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntz9xrtAIXk

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to grif on Sun Nov 19 16:01:01 2023
    On 11/19/23 3:37 PM, grif wrote:
    On 19/11/2023 19:02, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    Yep. That's how it goes.


    Sinner will be fine. I was very impressed with the way he was playing
    during the week and he probably would have been favourite against
    Alcaraz on this court.

    So looking at the photos in the following links, Sinner looks to have
    grown a bit. He's taller than both Djoker and Rune who are listed as
    6'2". I think he also plays with contacts because I've seen him with spectacles off the court. https://www.atptour.com/en/news/sinner-turin-2023-final-reaction https://www.reddit.com/r/tennis/comments/17xwkin/rune_expressing_humility/


    Some articles about the legend that is Nole the Great. https://www.tennis.com/news/articles/new-era-same-emperor-novak-djokovic-reigns-supreme-in-turin

    https://www.atptour.com/en/news/ivanisevic-nitto-atp-finals-2023-final-reaction


    You know, there's something supernatural about what Novak is achieving
    at his age. It's like he went down to the crossroads or visited a brujo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntz9xrtAIXk

    He a hoodoo man!

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to grif on Mon Nov 20 00:58:03 2023
    grif <griffin_230@hotmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On 19/11/2023 19:02, Pelle Svanslös wrote:> Yep. That's how it goes.> Sinner will be fine. I was very impressed with the way he was playing during the week and he probably would have been favourite against Alcaraz on this court.So looking at the
    photos in the following links, Sinner looks to have grown a bit. He's taller than both Djoker and Rune who are listed as 6'2". I think he also plays with contacts because I've seen him with spectacles off the court.https://www.atptour.com/en/news/sinner-
    turin-2023-final-reactionhttps://www.reddit.com/r/tennis/comments/17xwkin/rune_expressing_humility/Some articles about the legend that is Nole the Great.https://www.tennis.com/news/articles/new-era-same-emperor-novak-djokovic-reigns-supreme-in-turinhttps:
    //www.atptour.com/en/news/ivanisevic-nitto-atp-finals-2023-final-reactionYou know, there's something supernatural about what Novak is achieving at his age. It's like he went down to the crossroads or visited a brujo.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
    Ntz9xrtAIXk




    Nah he was simply very angry.


    https://www.eurosport.com/tennis/atp-finals/2023/atp-finals-2023-i-used-last-year-as-fuel-novak-djokovic-thrilled-with-season-after-carlos-alcaraz-wi_sto9888969/story.shtml


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  • From Court_1@21:1/5 to grif on Sun Nov 19 16:49:36 2023
    On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 6:37:50 PM UTC-5, grif wrote:
    On 19/11/2023 19:02, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    Yep. That's how it goes.

    Sinner will be fine. I was very impressed with the way he was playing during the week and he probably would have been favourite against Alcaraz on this court.

    But Alcaraz isn't Djokovic. Sinner FAILED the big test at this tournament. He couldn't even make it close. I give him credit for facing it though.

    You know, there's something supernatural about what Novak is achieving at his age. It's like he went down to the crossroads or visited a brujo.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntz9xrtAIXk

    Supernatural huh? Is that what you're calling it? ;)

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  • From grif@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 20 01:14:05 2023
    On 20/11/2023 00:49, Court_1 wrote:
    On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 6:37:50 PM UTC-5, grif wrote:
    On 19/11/2023 19:02, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    Yep. That's how it goes.

    Sinner will be fine. I was very impressed with the way he was playing during the week and he probably would have been favourite against Alcaraz on this court.

    But Alcaraz isn't Djokovic. Sinner FAILED the big test at this tournament. He couldn't even make it close. I give him credit for facing it though.


    Well, even Fed couldn't beat Novak in the final of this tourney. Fed beat Djoker in the RR stage in 2015 but still lost in straights in the final. Losing to the current 🐐 is not an embarrassment.

    I do give Sinner a huge amount of credit. I knew he was on something of a hot streak coming into this tourney and thought that was the matchup that could go either way. I sometimes think that people forget how close Sinner came to beating Alcaraz when he
    had a matchpoint in that epic US Open match. In that match, it was his serve that let him down badly. He had a low 1st serve percentage and hit something like 11 dfs. That's almost 3 games worth of points he gave away and he still almost beat Carlos.
    Sinner's serve has improved a lot recently.

    You know, there's something supernatural about what Novak is achieving at his age. It's like he went down to the crossroads or visited a brujo.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntz9xrtAIXk

    Supernatural huh? Is that what you're calling it? ;)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQlByoPdG6c

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  • From Court_1@21:1/5 to grif on Sun Nov 19 19:08:27 2023
    On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 8:14:08 PM UTC-5, grif wrote:
    On 20/11/2023 00:49, Court_1 wrote:
    On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 6:37:50 PM UTC-5, grif wrote:
    On 19/11/2023 19:02, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    Yep. That's how it goes.

    Sinner will be fine. I was very impressed with the way he was playing during the week and he probably would have been favourite against Alcaraz on this court.

    But Alcaraz isn't Djokovic. Sinner FAILED the big test at this tournament. He couldn't even make it close. I give him credit for facing it though.

    Well, even Fed couldn't beat Novak in the final of this tourney. Fed beat Djoker in the RR stage in 2015 but still lost in straights in the final. Losing to the current 🐐 is not an embarrassment.

    I agree with you 100%.


    I do give Sinner a huge amount of credit. I knew he was on something of a hot streak coming into this tourney and thought that was the matchup that could go either way. I sometimes think that people forget how close Sinner came to beating Alcaraz when
    he had a matchpoint in that epic US Open match. In that match, it was his serve that let him down badly. He had a low 1st serve percentage and hit something like 11 dfs. That's almost 3 games worth of points he gave away and he still almost beat Carlos.
    Sinner's serve has improved a lot recently.

    He's improved for sure but not enough to beat Djokovic when it really matters IMO. Djokovic is some kind of genetic mutation.

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to grif on Mon Nov 20 16:34:13 2023
    On 20/11/2023 12:14 pm, grif wrote:
    On 20/11/2023 00:49, Court_1 wrote:
    On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 6:37:50 PM UTC-5, grif wrote:


    Well, even Fed couldn't beat Novak in the final of this tourney. Fed
    beat Djoker in the RR stage in 2015 but still lost in straights in the
    final. Losing to the current 🐐 is not an embarrassment.

    I do give Sinner a huge amount of credit. I knew he was on something of
    a hot streak coming into this tourney and thought that was the matchup
    that could go either way. I sometimes think that people forget how close Sinner came to beating Alcaraz when he had a matchpoint in that epic US
    Open match. In that match, it was his serve that let him down badly. He
    had a low 1st serve percentage and hit something like 11 dfs. That's
    almost 3 games worth of points he gave away and he still almost beat
    Carlos. Sinner's serve has improved a lot recently.


    Sinner doesn't go backwards. He may not be improving as quickly as most expected, but he should get to no.1 in 2 or 3 yrs.

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to grif on Mon Nov 20 16:31:23 2023
    On 20/11/2023 10:37 am, grif wrote:

    You know, there's something supernatural about what Novak is achieving
    at his age. It's like he went down to the crossroads or visited a brujo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntz9xrtAIXk



    Novak reads rst and saw PWL posts re Federer being past peak at age 26.
    He not only wants to break every record there is but run rings around
    other greats like Roger.

    Novak said today there is the calendar slam and gold medal to shoot for
    next yr. Imagine if he achieves that at age 37 : )

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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to Whisper on Mon Nov 20 02:29:35 2023
    Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r
    On 20/11/2023 12:14 pm, grif wrote:> On 20/11/2023 00:49, Court_1 wrote:>> On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 6:37:50PM UTC-5, grif wrote:>>> > Well, even Fed couldn't beat Novak in the final of this tourney. Fed > beat Djoker in the RR stage in 2015 but
    still lost in straights in the > final. Losing to the current  is not an embarrassment.> > I do give Sinner a huge amount of credit. I knew he was on something of > a hot streak coming into this tourney and thought that was the matchup > that could go
    either way. I sometimes think that people forget how close > Sinner came to beating Alcaraz when he had a matchpoint in that epic US > Open match. In that match, it was his serve that let him down badly. He > had a low 1st serve percentage and hit
    something like 11 dfs. That's > almost 3 games worth of points he gave away and he still almost beat > Carlos. Sinner's serve has improved a lot recently.> Sinner doesn't go backwards. He may not be improving as quickly as most expected, but he should
    get to no.1 in 2 or 3 yrs.

    Yes he is another Sampras on steroids :)

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to grif on Mon Nov 20 01:09:38 2023
    On Sunday, 19 November 2023 at 23:37:50 UTC, grif wrote:
    On 19/11/2023 19:02, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    Yep. That's how it goes.

    Sinner will be fine. I was very impressed with the way he was playing during the week and he probably would have been favourite against Alcaraz on this court.

    no he wouldn't, it was a final and Alcaraz would've walked it.

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