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Israeli defense official says Gaza will be reduced to a ‘city of tents’ while a politician calls for nuclear bombs


By Yaron Steinbuch
Published Oct. 11, 2023, 9:32 a.m. ET

An Israeli defense official vowed that Gaza will be wiped out and reduced to a “city of tents” in a punishing “ground maneuver” for the unprecedented attack against the Jewish state — as a politician called for nuclear bombs to be used.

The unnamed defense official told Israel’s Channel 13 that the Palestinian territory, which includes more than 2 million residents, would be reduced to rubble in the decimating blow.

“Gaza will eventually turn into a city of tents. There will be no buildings. The ground maneuver will surprise Hamas,” the official said in a stark warning to the terrorist group behind the weekend assault that killed more than 1,200 Israelis

Meanwhile, Revital “Tally” Gotliv a Likud member of the Knesset, Israel’s parliament, called for the Jewish state to unleash nuclear warfare — even though Israel has never openly admitted to having the weaponry.

“Jericho Missile! Jericho Missile! Strategic alert. Before considering the introduction of forces. Doomsday weapon! This is my opinion. May God protect all our forces,” Gotliv tweeted Monday, according to a translation.

“I urge you to do everything and use doomsday weapons fearlessly against our enemies,” she said in another post, adding that Israel “must use everything in its arsenal.”

“There is no pity! To the ground and crush Gaza. … Do everything before considering bringing troops into Gaza,” she wrote Tuesday.

“We have artillery capabilities. We invested huge budgets in it. Must use everything we have in the arsenal! The lives of our soldiers are more important and precious than any person in Gaza. The gloves will be removed!”

Nikolai Sokov, senior fellow at the Vienna Center for Disarmament and Non-Proliferation, told Newsweek that “loose talk” about nukes has increased due to the war in Ukraine and now the conflict in Gaza — but noted that the subject is a sensitive
one in Israel.

“For Israel, such loose talk is perhaps even more damaging because the country does not even admit it has nuclear weapons, so an indirect confirmation is not good for its image,” Sokov told the outlet.

He added that any potential targets would be too close for Israel to even consider using such weapons without putting its own people at risk.

“There are, effectively, no targets for nuclear weapons in this war/conflict,” he told Newsweek.

On Tuesday, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant spoke to Israeli troops amassed along the Gaza border.

“I have released all the restraints, we have [regained] control of the area, and we are moving to a full offense,” Gallant told the soldiers, The Times of Israel reported.

“You will have the ability to change the reality here. You have seen the prices [being paid], and you will get to see the change. Hamas wanted a change in Gaza. They will regret this moment. Gaza will never go back to what it was,” he continued.

“Whoever comes to decapitate, murder women, Holocaust survivors, we will eliminate him with all our might — and without compromise,” Gallant added.

An Egyptian official told the outlet on Tuesday that Israel has informed Cairo that it is preparing for a months-long ground campaign in Gaza.

The official added that Israel has so far rejected Egypt’s efforts to mediate a de-escalation in the hostilities, suggesting that it seeks to deal a knockout blow to the terror group before considering a ceasefire.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reportedly told President Joe Biden on Sunday that Israel has no choice but to launch a ground assault.

“We have to go in. We can’t negotiate now. We need to restore deterrence,” Bibi told Biden, three Israeli and US sources brief on the call told Axios.

Biden did not try to change Netanyahu’s mind, the outlet added, citing the sources.

Also Tuesday, IDF spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari said that killing senior Hamas members is a top priority.

“We will not stop the effort to eliminate senior Hamas officials, this is a top priority,” Hagari told a reporter after Israeli strikes killed two senior Hamas members Monday night.

The war between the Jewish state and Hamas raged for a fifth day Wednesday, as Israeli warplanes hammered neighborhood after neighborhood in the Gaza Strip, reducing buildings to rubble and sending people scrambling to find safety.

The IDF said more than 1,200 people, including 155 soldiers, have died in Israel since Saturday’s incursion.

In Gaza, 1,055 people have been killed, including 260 children and 230 women, according to authorities there. Israel says hundreds of Hamas fighters are among them.



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https://nypost.com/2023/10/11/israeli-official-says-gaza-will-be-made-a-city-of-tents/amp/Israeli defense official says Gaza will be reduced to a ‘city of tents’ while a politician calls for nuclear bombsBy Yaron SteinbuchPublished Oct. 11, 2023, 9:

32 a.m. ETAn Israeli defense official vowed that Gaza will be wiped out and reduced to a “city of tents” in a punishing “ground maneuver” for the unprecedented attack against the Jewish state — as a politician called for nuclear bombs to be
used.The unnamed defense official told Israel’s Channel 13 that the Palestinian territory, which includes more than 2 million residents, would be reduced to rubble in the decimating blow.“Gaza will eventually turn into a city of tents. There will be
no buildings. The ground maneuver will surprise Hamas,” the official said in a stark warning to the terrorist group behind the weekend assault that killed more than 1,200 IsraelisMeanwhile, Revital “Tally” Gotliv a Likud member of the Knesset,
Israel’s parliament, called for the Jewish state to unleash nuclear warfare — even though Israel has never openly admitted to having the weaponry.“Jericho Missile! Jericho Missile! Strategic alert. Before considering the introduction of forces.
Doomsday weapon! This is my opinion. May God protect all our forces,” Gotliv tweeted Monday, according to a translation.“I urge you to do everything and use doomsday weapons fearlessly against our enemies,” she said in another post, adding that
Israel “must use everything in its arsenal.”“There is no pity! To the ground and crush Gaza. … Do everything before considering bringing troops into Gaza,” she wrote Tuesday.“We have artillery capabilities. We invested huge budgets in it.
Must use everything we have in the arsenal! The lives of our soldiers are more important and precious than any person in Gaza. The gloves will be removed!”Nikolai Sokov, senior fellow at the Vienna Center for Disarmament and Non-Proliferation, told
Newsweek that “loose talk” about nukes has increased due to the war in Ukraine and now the conflict in Gaza — but noted that the subject is a sensitive one in Israel.“For Israel, such loose talk is perhaps even more damaging because the country
does not even admit it has nuclear weapons, so an indirect confirmation is not good for its image,” Sokov told the outlet.He added that any potential targets would be too close for Israel to even consider using such weapons without putting its own
people at risk.“There are, effectively, no targets for nuclear weapons in this war/conflict,” he told Newsweek.On Tuesday, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant spoke to Israeli troops amassed along the Gaza border.“I have released all the restraints, we
have [regained] control of the area, and we are moving to a full offense,” Gallant told the soldiers, The Times of Israel reported.“You will have the ability to change the reality here. You have seen the prices [being paid], and you will get to see
the change. Hamas wanted a change in Gaza. They will regret this moment. Gaza will never go back to what it was,” he continued.“Whoever comes to decapitate, murder women, Holocaust survivors, we will eliminate him with all our might — and without
compromise,” Gallant added.An Egyptian official told the outlet on Tuesday that Israel has informed Cairo that it is preparing for a months-long ground campaign in Gaza.The official added that Israel has so far rejected Egypt’s efforts to mediate a
de-escalation in the hostilities, suggesting that it seeks to deal a knockout blow to the terror group before considering a ceasefire.Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reportedly told President Joe Biden on Sunday that Israel has no choice but to launch
a ground assault.“We have to go in. We can’t negotiate now. We need to restore deterrence,” Bibi told Biden, three Israeli and US sources brief on the call told Axios.Biden did not try to change Netanyahu’s mind, the outlet added, citing the
sources.Also Tuesday, IDF spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari said that killing senior Hamas members is a top priority.“We will not stop the effort to eliminate senior Hamas officials, this is a top priority,” Hagari told a reporter after Israeli
strikes killed two senior Hamas members Monday night.The war between the Jewish state and Hamas raged for a fifth day Wednesday, as Israeli warplanes hammered neighborhood after neighborhood in the Gaza Strip, reducing buildings to rubble and sending
people scrambling to find safety.The IDF said more than 1,200 people, including 155 soldiers, have died in Israel since Saturday’s incursion.In Gaza, 1,055 people have been killed, including 260 children and 230 women, according to authorities there.
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nuclear bombsBy Yaron SteinbuchPublished Oct. 11, 2023, 9:32 a.m. ETAn Israeli defense official vowed that Gaza will be wiped out and reduced to a �city of tents� in a punishing �ground maneuver� for the unprecedented attack against the Jewish state � as
a politician called for nuclear bombs to be used.The unnamed defense official told Israel�s Channel 13 that the Palestinian territory, which includes more than 2 million residents, would be reduced to rubble in the decimating blow.�Gaza will eventually
turn into a city of tents. There will be no buildings. The ground maneuver will surprise Hamas,� the official said in a stark warning to the terrorist group behind the weekend assault that killed more than 1,200 IsraelisMeanwhile, Revital �Tally� Gotliv
a Likud member of the Knesset, Israel�s parliament, called for the Jewish state to unleash nuclear warfare � even though Israel has never openly admitted to having the weaponry.�Jericho Missile! Jericho Missile! Strategic alert. Before considering the
introduction of forces. Doomsday weapon! This is my opinion. May God protect all our forces,� Gotliv tweeted Monday, according to a translation.�I urge you to do everything and use doomsday weapons fearlessly against our enemies,� she said in another
post, adding that Israel �must use everything in its arsenal.��There is no pity! To the ground and crush Gaza. � Do everything before considering bringing troops into Gaza,� she wrote Tuesday.�We have artillery capabilities. We invested huge budgets in
it. Must use everything we have in the arsenal! The lives of our soldiers are more important and precious than any person in Gaza. The gloves will be removed!�Nikolai Sokov, senior fellow at the Vienna Center for Disarmament and Non-Proliferation, told
Newsweek that �loose talk� about nukes has increased due to the war in Ukraine and now the conflict in Gaza � but noted that the subject is a sensitive one in Israel.�For Israel, such loose talk is perhaps even more damaging because the country does not
even admit it has nuclear weapons, so an indirect confirmation is not good for its image,� Sokov told the outlet.He added that any potential targets would be too close for Israel to even consider using such weapons without putting its own people at risk.�
There are, effectively, no targets for nuclear weapons in this war/conflict,� he told Newsweek.On Tuesday, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant spoke to Israeli troops amassed along the Gaza border.�I have released all the restraints, we have [regained] control
of the area, and we are moving to a full offense,� Gallant told the soldiers, The Times of Israel reported.�You will have the ability to change the reality here. You have seen the prices [being paid], and you will get to see the change. Hamas wanted a
change in Gaza. They will regret this moment. Gaza will never go back to what it was,� he continued.�Whoever comes to decapitate, murder women, Holocaust survivors, we will eliminate him with all our might � and without compromise,� Gallant added.An
Egyptian official told the outlet on Tuesday that Israel has informed Cairo that it is preparing for a months-long ground campaign in Gaza.The official added that Israel has so far rejected Egypt�s efforts to mediate a de-escalation in the hostilities,
suggesting that it seeks to deal a knockout blow to the terror group before considering a ceasefire.Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reportedly told President Joe Biden on Sunday that Israel has no choice but to launch a ground assault.�We have to go in.
We can�t negotiate now. We need to restore deterrence,� Bibi told Biden, three Israeli and US sources brief on the call told Axios.Biden did not try to change Netanyahu�s mind, the outlet added, citing the sources.Also Tuesday, IDF spokesman Rear Adm.
Daniel Hagari said that killing senior Hamas members is a top priority.�We will not stop the effort to eliminate senior Hamas officials, this is a top priority,� Hagari told a reporter after Israeli strikes killed two senior Hamas members Monday night.
The war between the Jewish state and Hamas raged for a fifth day Wednesday, as Israeli warplanes hammered neighborhood after neighborhood in the Gaza Strip, reducing buildings to rubble and sending people scrambling to find safety.The IDF said more than
1,200 people, including 155 soldiers, have died in Israel since Saturday�s incursion.In Gaza, 1,055 people have been killed, including 260 children and 230 women, according to authorities there. Israel says hundreds of Hamas fighters are among them. -- -
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nuclear bombsBy Yaron SteinbuchPublished Oct. 11, 2023, 9:32 a.m. ETAn Israeli defense official vowed that Gaza will be wiped out and reduced to a “city of tents” in a punishing “ground maneuver” for the unprecedented attack against the Jewish
state — as a politician called for nuclear bombs to be used.The unnamed defense official told Israel’s Channel 13 that the Palestinian territory, which includes more than 2 million residents, would be reduced to rubble in the decimating blow.“Gaza
will eventually turn into a city of tents. There will be no buildings. The ground maneuver will surprise Hamas,” the official said in a stark warning to the terrorist group behind the weekend assault that killed more than 1,200 IsraelisMeanwhile,
Revital “Tally” Gotliv a Likud member of the Knesset, Israel’s parliament, called for the Jewish state to unleash nuclear warfare — even though Israel has never openly admitted to having the weaponry.“Jericho Missile! Jericho Missile! Strategic
alert. Before considering the introduction of forces. Doomsday weapon! This is my opinion. May God protect all our forces,” Gotliv tweeted Monday, according to a translation.“I urge you to do everything and use doomsday weapons fearlessly against our
enemies,” she said in another post, adding that Israel “must use everything in its arsenal.”“There is no pity! To the ground and crush Gaza. … Do everything before considering bringing troops into Gaza,” she wrote Tuesday.“We have artillery
capabilities. We invested huge budgets in it. Must use everything we have in the arsenal! The lives of our soldiers are more important and precious than any person in Gaza. The gloves will be removed!”Nikolai Sokov, senior fellow at the Vienna Center
for Disarmament and Non-Proliferation, told Newsweek that “loose talk” about nukes has increased due to the war in Ukraine and now the conflict in Gaza — but noted that the subject is a sensitive one in Israel.“For Israel, such loose talk is
perhaps even more damaging because the country does not even admit it has nuclear weapons, so an indirect confirmation is not good for its image,” Sokov told the outlet.He added that any potential targets would be too close for Israel to even consider
using such weapons without putting its own people at risk.“There are, effectively, no targets for nuclear weapons in this war/conflict,” he told Newsweek.On Tuesday, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant spoke to Israeli troops amassed along the Gaza border.�
��I have released all the restraints, we have [regained] control of the area, and we are moving to a full offense,” Gallant told the soldiers, The Times of Israel reported.“You will have the ability to change the reality here. You have seen the
prices [being paid], and you will get to see the change. Hamas wanted a change in Gaza. They will regret this moment. Gaza will never go back to what it was,” he continued.“Whoever comes to decapitate, murder women, Holocaust survivors, we will
eliminate him with all our might — and without compromise,” Gallant added.An Egyptian official told the outlet on Tuesday that Israel has informed Cairo that it is preparing for a months-long ground campaign in Gaza.The official added that Israel has
so far rejected Egypt’s efforts to mediate a de-escalation in the hostilities, suggesting that it seeks to deal a knockout blow to the terror group before considering a ceasefire.Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reportedly told President Joe Biden on
Sunday that Israel has no choice but to launch a ground assault.“We have to go in. We can’t negotiate now. We need to restore deterrence,” Bibi told Biden, three Israeli and US sources brief on the call told Axios.Biden did not try to change
Netanyahu’s mind, the outlet added, citing the sources.Also Tuesday, IDF spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari said that killing senior Hamas members is a top priority.“We will not stop the effort to eliminate senior Hamas officials, this is a top
priority,” Hagari told a reporter after Israeli strikes killed two senior Hamas members Monday night.The war between the Jewish state and Hamas raged for a fifth day Wednesday, as Israeli warplanes hammered neighborhood after neighborhood in the Gaza
Strip, reducing buildings to rubble and sending people scrambling to find safety.The IDF said more than 1,200 people, including 155 soldiers, have died in Israel since Saturday’s incursion.In Gaza, 1,055 people have been killed, including 260 children
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https://nypost.com/2023/10/11/israeli-official-says-gaza-will-be-made-a-city-of-tents/amp/Israeli defense official says Gaza will be reduced to a �city of tents� while a politician calls for nuclear bombsBy Yaron SteinbuchPublished Oct. 11, 2023, 9:32

a.m. ETAn Israeli defense official vowed that Gaza will be wiped out and reduced to a �city of tents� in a punishing �ground maneuver� for the unprecedented attack against the Jewish state � as a politician called for nuclear bombs to be used.The unnamed
defense official told Israel�s Channel 13 that the Palestinian territory, which includes more than 2 million residents, would be reduced to rubble in the decimating blow.�Gaza will eventually turn into a city of tents. There will be no buildings. The
ground maneuver will surprise Hamas,� the official said in a stark warning to the terrorist group behind the weekend assault that killed more than 1,200 IsraelisMeanwhile, Revital �Tally� Gotliv a Likud member of the Knesset, Israel�s parliament, called
for the Jewish state to unleash nuclear warfare � even though Israel has never openly admitted to having the weaponry.�Jericho Missile! Jericho Missile! Strategic alert. Before considering the introduction of forces. Doomsday weapon! This is my opinion.
May God protect all our forces,� Gotliv tweeted Monday, according to a translation.�I urge you to do everything and use doomsday weapons fearlessly against our enemies,� she said in another post, adding that Israel �must use everything in its arsenal.��
There is no pity! To the ground and crush Gaza. � Do everything before considering bringing troops into Gaza,� she wrote Tuesday.�We have artillery capabilities. We invested huge budgets in it. Must use everything we have in the arsenal! The lives of our
soldiers are more important and precious than any person in Gaza. The gloves will be removed!�Nikolai Sokov, senior fellow at the Vienna Center for Disarmament and Non-Proliferation, told Newsweek that �loose talk� about nukes has increased due to the
war in Ukraine and now the conflict in Gaza � but noted that the subject is a sensitive one in Israel.�For Israel, such loose talk is perhaps even more damaging because the country does not even admit it has nuclear weapons, so an indirect confirmation
is not good for its image,� Sokov told the outlet.He added that any potential targets would be too close for Israel to even consider using such weapons without putting its own people at risk.�There are, effectively, no targets for nuclear weapons in this
war/conflict,� he told Newsweek.On Tuesday, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant spoke to Israeli troops amassed along the Gaza border.�I have released all the restraints, we have [regained] control of the area, and we are moving to a full offense,� Gallant
told the soldiers, The Times of Israel reported.�You will have the ability to change the reality here. You have seen the prices [being paid], and you will get to see the change. Hamas wanted a change in Gaza. They will regret this moment. Gaza will never
go back to what it was,� he continued.�Whoever comes to decapitate, murder women, Holocaust survivors, we will eliminate him with all our might � and without compromise,� Gallant added.An Egyptian official told the outlet on Tuesday that Israel has
informed Cairo that it is preparing for a months-long ground campaign in Gaza.The official added that Israel has so far rejected Egypt�s efforts to mediate a de-escalation in the hostilities, suggesting that it seeks to deal a knockout blow to the terror
group before considering a ceasefire.Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reportedly told President Joe Biden on Sunday that Israel has no choice but to launch a ground assault.�We have to go in. We can�t negotiate now. We need to restore deterrence,� Bibi
told Biden, three Israeli and US sources brief on the call told Axios.Biden did not try to change Netanyahu�s mind, the outlet added, citing the sources.Also Tuesday, IDF spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari said that killing senior Hamas members is a top
priority.�We will not stop the effort to eliminate senior Hamas officials, this is a top priority,� Hagari told a reporter after Israeli strikes killed two senior Hamas members Monday night.The war between the Jewish state and Hamas raged for a fifth day
Wednesday, as Israeli warplanes hammered neighborhood after neighborhood in the Gaza Strip, reducing buildings to rubble and sending people scrambling to find safety.The IDF said more than 1,200 people, including 155 soldiers, have died in Israel since
Saturday�s incursion.In Gaza, 1,055 people have been killed, including 260 children and 230 women, according to authorities there. Israel says hundreds of Hamas fighters are among them. -- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.
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Honestly it looks like this is something Israel planned for to get the last piece of land.
Breaking through the fences and failure of intelligence to spot anything that was unusual looks to be suspicious.

I read that Egypt warned Israel many times about something big that was going to happen and they ignored it.

The plan is to achieve "the Greater Israel"�consists in an area extending from the Nile to the Euphrates.
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On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 1:09:20PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> *skriptis <skri...@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r > > *skriptis <skri...@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> https://nypost.com/2023/10/11/israeli-official-says-gaza-will-be-

made-a-city-of-tents/amp/Israeli defense official says Gaza will be reduced to a �city of tents� while a politician calls for nuclear bombsBy Yaron SteinbuchPublished Oct. 11, 2023, 9:32 a.m. ETAn Israeli defense official vowed that Gaza will be wiped
out and reduced to a �city of tents� in a punishing �ground maneuver� for the unprecedented attack against the Jewish state � as a politician called for nuclear bombs to be used.The unnamed defense official told Israel�s Channel 13 that the Palestinian
territory, which includes more than 2 million residents, would be reduced to rubble in the decimating blow.�Gaza will eventually turn into a city of tents. There will be no buildings. The ground maneuver will surprise Hamas,� the official said in a stark
warning to the terrorist group behind the weekend assault that killed more than 1,200 IsraelisMeanwhile, Revital �Tally� Gotliv a Likud member of the Knesset, Israel�s parliament, called for the Jewish state to unleash nuclear warfare � even though
Israel has never openly admitted to having the weaponry.�Jericho Missile! Jericho Missile! Strategic alert. Before considering the introduction of forces. Doomsday weapon! This is my opinion. May God protect all our forces,� Gotliv tweeted Monday,
according to a translation.�I urge you to do everything and use doomsday weapons fearlessly against our enemies,� she said in another post, adding that Israel �must use everything in its arsenal.��There is no pity! To the ground and crush Gaza. � Do
everything before considering bringing troops into Gaza,� she wrote Tuesday.�We have artillery capabilities. We invested huge budgets in it. Must use everything we have in the arsenal! The lives of our soldiers are more important and precious than any
person in Gaza. The gloves will be removed!�Nikolai Sokov, senior fellow at the Vienna Center for Disarmament and Non-Proliferation, told Newsweek that �loose talk� about nukes has increased due to the war in Ukraine and now the conflict in Gaza � but
noted that the subject is a sensitive one in Israel.�For Israel, such loose talk is perhaps even more damaging because the country does not even admit it has nuclear weapons, so an indirect confirmation is not good for its image,� Sokov told the outlet.
He added that any potential targets would be too close for Israel to even consider using such weapons without putting its own people at risk.�There are, effectively, no targets for nuclear weapons in this war/conflict,� he told Newsweek.On Tuesday,
Defense Minister Yoav Gallant spoke to Israeli troops amassed along the Gaza border.�I have released all the restraints, we have [regained] control of the area, and we are moving to a full offense,� Gallant told the soldiers, The Times of Israel reported.
�You will have the ability to change the reality here. You have seen the prices [being paid], and you will get to see the change. Hamas wanted a change in Gaza. They will regret this moment. Gaza will never go back to what it was,� he continued.�Whoever
comes to decapitate, murder women, Holocaust survivors, we will eliminate him with all our might � and without compromise,� Gallant added.An Egyptian official told the outlet on Tuesday that Israel has informed Cairo that it is preparing for a months-
long ground campaign in Gaza.The official added that Israel has so far rejected Egypt�s efforts to mediate a de-escalation in the hostilities, suggesting that it seeks to deal a knockout blow to the terror group before considering a ceasefire.Prime
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reportedly told President Joe Biden on Sunday that Israel has no choice but to launch a ground assault.�We have to go in. We can�t negotiate now. We need to restore deterrence,� Bibi told Biden, three Israeli and US sources
brief on the call told Axios.Biden did not try to change Netanyahu�s mind, the outlet added, citing the sources.Also Tuesday, IDF spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari said that killing senior Hamas members is a top priority.�We will not stop the effort to
eliminate senior Hamas officials, this is a top priority,� Hagari told a reporter after Israeli strikes killed two senior Hamas members Monday night.The war between the Jewish state and Hamas raged for a fifth day Wednesday, as Israeli warplanes hammered
neighborhood after neighborhood in the Gaza Strip, reducing buildings to rubble and sending people scrambling to find safety.The IDF said more than 1,200 people, including 155 soldiers, have died in Israel since Saturday�s incursion.In Gaza, 1,055 people
have been killed, including 260 children and 230 women, according to authorities there. Israel says hundreds of Hamas fighters are among them. -- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlJewish monsters-
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index.htmlhttps://www.reuters.com/world/senior-iraqi-political-figure-threatens-target-us-interests-if-it-backs-israel-2023-10-10/

This could escalate to different levels.
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PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 11.10.2023 klo 20.09:> *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r>> *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> https://nypost.com/2023/10/11/israeli-official-says-gaza-will-be-made-a-city-of-tents/amp/

Israeli defense official says Gaza will be reduced to a ‘city of tents’ while a politician calls for nuclear bombsBy Yaron SteinbuchPublished Oct. 11, 2023, 9:32 a.m. ETAn Israeli defense official vowed that Gaza will be wiped out and reduced to a “
city of tents” in a punishing “ground maneuver” for the unprecedented attack against the Jewish state — as a politician called for nuclear bombs to be used.The unnamed defense official told Israel’s Channel 13 that the Palestinian territory,
which includes more than 2 million residents, would be reduced to rubble in the decimating blow.“Gaza will eventually turn into a city of tents. There will be no buildings. The ground maneuver will surprise Hamas,” the official said in a stark
warning to the terrorist group behind the weekend assault that killed more than 1,200 IsraelisMeanwhile, Revital “Tally” Gotliv a Likud member of the Knesset, Israel’s parliament, called for the Jewish state to unleash nuclear warfare — even
though Israel has never openly admitted to having the weaponry.“Jericho Missile! Jericho Missile! Strategic alert. Before considering the introduction of forces. Doomsday weapon! This is my opinion. May God protect all our forces,” Gotliv tweeted
Monday, according to a translation.“I urge you to do everything and use doomsday weapons fearlessly against our enemies,” she said in another post, adding that Israel “must use everything in its arsenal.”“There is no pity! To the ground and
crush Gaza. … Do everything before considering bringing troops into Gaza,” she wrote Tuesday.“We have artillery capabilities. We invested huge budgets in it. Must use everything we have in the arsenal! The lives of our soldiers are more important
and precious than any person in Gaza. The gloves will be removed!”Nikolai Sokov, senior fellow at the Vienna Center for Disarmament and Non-Proliferation, told Newsweek that “loose talk” about nukes has increased due to the war in Ukraine and now
the conflict in Gaza — but noted that the subject is a sensitive one in Israel.“For Israel, such loose talk is perhaps even more damaging because the country does not even admit it has nuclear weapons, so an indirect confirmation is not good for its
image,” Sokov told the outlet.He added that any potential targets would be too close for Israel to even consider using such weapons without putting its own people at risk.“There are, effectively, no targets for nuclear weapons in this war/conflict,”
he told Newsweek.On Tuesday, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant spoke to Israeli troops amassed along the Gaza border.“I have released all the restraints, we have [regained] control of the area, and we are moving to a full offense,” Gallant told the
soldiers, The Times of Israel reported.“You will have the ability to change the reality here. You have seen the prices [being paid], and you will get to see the change. Hamas wanted a change in Gaza. They will regret this moment. Gaza will never go
back to what it was,” he continued.“Whoever comes to decapitate, murder women, Holocaust survivors, we will eliminate him with all our might — and without compromise,” Gallant added.An Egyptian official told the outlet on Tuesday that Israel has
informed Cairo that it is preparing for a months-long ground campaign in Gaza.The official added that Israel has so far rejected Egypt’s efforts to mediate a de-escalation in the hostilities, suggesting that it seeks to deal a knockout blow to the
terror group before considering a ceasefire.Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reportedly told President Joe Biden on Sunday that Israel has no choice but to launch a ground assault.“We have to go in. We can’t negotiate now. We need to restore
deterrence,” Bibi told Biden, three Israeli and US sources brief on the call told Axios.Biden did not try to change Netanyahu’s mind, the outlet added, citing the sources.Also Tuesday, IDF spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari said that killing senior
Hamas members is a top priority.“We will not stop the effort to eliminate senior Hamas officials, this is a top priority,” Hagari told a reporter after Israeli strikes killed two senior Hamas members Monday night.The war between the Jewish state and
Hamas raged for a fifth day Wednesday, as Israeli warplanes hammered neighborhood after neighborhood in the Gaza Strip, reducing buildings to rubble and sending people scrambling to find safety.The IDF said more than 1,200 people, including 155 soldiers,
have died in Israel since Saturday’s incursion.In Gaza, 1,055 people have been killed, including 260 children and 230 women, according to authorities there. Israel says hundreds of Hamas fighters are among them. -- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----
https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlJewish monsters-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html> > Sorry, we care only about genocides in China and Ukraine :(Israel is only the
first target, warns Hamas commanderMahmoud al-Zahar:"The entire planet will be under our law; there will be no more Jews or Christian traitors.".https://x.com/AmyMek/status/1711988348544491909?s=20



That's like Feliciano Lopez threatening to go for Grand Slam next year.

Irrelevant and absurd.


That kind of absurdity in itself tells you that Hamas is a Jewish project. Project to radicalise Palestinians in Gaza concentration camp and to separate them from Palestinians from the West Bank.


https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-11/ty-article/.premium/netanyahu-needed-a-strong-hamas/0000018b-1e9f-d47b-a7fb-bfdfd8f30000

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/




Then to use their radicalisation, as they were aware they'd do something like this, to use this kind of terrorist act to crush them, kill them, purge them and seize Gaza and settle it with Jews as they do with the West Bank.

As a bonus, Jews, who push Kalergi will send those Moslems to Europe to brown us.

Jews get their even larger clean ethnostate and in the process, they screw us even more.


Islam has always been a tool for the Jews to fight the Christians. Of course it's not a tool that's easy to control, but ultimately it's their tool.


If you think it's stupid, tell me how does the world famous intelligence agency mossad not know Hamas, who are squeezed in 40x9 km Gaza strip, are planning to launch 5000 rockets and break through their walls?

Don't be naive.




In a nutshell, you should also think about this.


Germany was universally blamed for WW2 and everything, and they got 4 years of occupation as a punishment.

Already in 1949, German state was refounded. It means USA or USSR couldn't kill Germans as they wished anymore.

Germans got state, laws, constitution instead of foreign military rule.

USA didn't want neutral Germany as Stalin was proposing so they created West Germany and in return Soviets created East Germany.

But that's the point. They even had fucking Hitler and world couldn't continue with literal military occupation for more than 4 years.

Allies couldn't reach an agreement but they then created two states.

The option of permanent occupation was unthinkable, even it meant occupation of Germans after Hitler.

They only got 4 years of it.


Palestinians have been occupied for more than 70 years, ever since Israel has been created.

Hamas is a pure evil, but after 70 years of occupation, what do you expect?

Jews are in position of power there, and ultimately, the responsibility is on them.

They have their state, and despite that, they keep Palestine under occupation, and even build settlements there on the west bank.

And they periodically bomb Gaza, starve people there, and are now announcing they will raze it.


They just killed 11 UN staffers and 30 kids in Gaza.


https://www.barrons.com/news/11-un-staff-30-pupils-at-un-schools-killed-in-gaza-spokesman-8d10bade



Jews are horrible.










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PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 11.10.2023 klo 20.31:> *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r>> https://nypost.com/2023/10/11/israeli-official-says-gaza-will-be-made-a-city-of-tents/amp/Israeli defense official says Gaza will be reduced to a �

city of tents� while a politician calls for nuclear bombsBy Yaron SteinbuchPublished Oct. 11, 2023, 9:32 a.m. ETAn Israeli defense official vowed that Gaza will be wiped out and reduced to a �city of tents� in a punishing �ground maneuver� for the
unprecedented attack against the Jewish state � as a politician called for nuclear bombs to be used.The unnamed defense official told Israel�s Channel 13 that the Palestinian territory, which includes more than 2 million residents, would be reduced to
rubble in the decimating blow.�Gaza will eventually turn into a city of tents. There will be no buildings. The ground maneuver will surprise Hamas,� the official said in a stark warning to the terrorist group behind the weekend assault that killed more
than 1,200 IsraelisMeanwhile, Revital �Tally� Gotliv a Likud member of the Knesset, Israel�s parliament, called for the Jewish state to unleash nuclear warfare � even though Israel has never openly admitted to having the weaponry.�Jericho Missile!
Jericho Missile! Strategic alert. Before considering the introduction of forces. Doomsday weapon! This is my opinion. May God protect all our forces,� Gotliv tweeted Monday, according to a translation.�I urge you to do everything and use doomsday weapons
fearlessly against our enemies,� she said in another post, adding that Israel �must use everything in its arsenal.��There is no pity! To the ground and crush Gaza. � Do everything before considering bringing troops into Gaza,� she wrote Tuesday.�We have
artillery capabilities. We invested huge budgets in it. Must use everything we have in the arsenal! The lives of our soldiers are more important and precious than any person in Gaza. The gloves will be removed!�Nikolai Sokov, senior fellow at the Vienna
Center for Disarmament and Non-Proliferation, told Newsweek that �loose talk� about nukes has increased due to the war in Ukraine and now the conflict in Gaza � but noted that the subject is a sensitive one in Israel.�For Israel, such loose talk is
perhaps even more damaging because the country does not even admit it has nuclear weapons, so an indirect confirmation is not good for its image,� Sokov told the outlet.He added that any potential targets would be too close for Israel to even consider
using such weapons without putting its own people at risk.�There are, effectively, no targets for nuclear weapons in this war/conflict,� he told Newsweek.On Tuesday, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant spoke to Israeli troops amassed along the Gaza border.�I
have released all the restraints, we have [regained] control of the area, and we are moving to a full offense,� Gallant told the soldiers, The Times of Israel reported.�You will have the ability to change the reality here. You have seen the prices [being
paid], and you will get to see the change. Hamas wanted a change in Gaza. They will regret this moment. Gaza will never go back to what it was,� he continued.�Whoever comes to decapitate, murder women, Holocaust survivors, we will eliminate him with all
our might � and without compromise,� Gallant added.An Egyptian official told the outlet on Tuesday that Israel has informed Cairo that it is preparing for a months-long ground campaign in Gaza.The official added that Israel has so far rejected Egypt�s
efforts to mediate a de-escalation in the hostilities, suggesting that it seeks to deal a knockout blow to the terror group before considering a ceasefire.Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reportedly told President Joe Biden on Sunday that Israel has no
choice but to launch a ground assault.�We have to go in. We can�t negotiate now. We need to restore deterrence,� Bibi told Biden, three Israeli and US sources brief on the call told Axios.Biden did not try to change Netanyahu�s mind, the outlet added,
citing the sources.Also Tuesday, IDF spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari said that killing senior Hamas members is a top priority.�We will not stop the effort to eliminate senior Hamas officials, this is a top priority,� Hagari told a reporter after
Israeli strikes killed two senior Hamas members Monday night.The war between the Jewish state and Hamas raged for a fifth day Wednesday, as Israeli warplanes hammered neighborhood after neighborhood in the Gaza Strip, reducing buildings to rubble and
sending people scrambling to find safety.The IDF said more than 1,200 people, including 155 soldiers, have died in Israel since Saturday�s incursion.In Gaza, 1,055 people have been killed, including 260 children and 230 women, according to authorities
there. Israel says hundreds of Hamas fighters are among them. -- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html> > Honestly it looks like this is something Israel planned for to get the last piece of land.>
Breaking through the fences and failure of intelligence to spot anything that was unusual looks to be suspicious.> > I read that Egypt warned Israel many times about something big that was going to happen and they ignored it.> > The plan is to achieve "
the Greater Israel" consists in an area extending from the Nile to the Euphrates.It's obvious that Israel is milking the incident to max, they finally got their "excuse". Of course they always wanted the Gaza strip... and who can really blame them...
Thousands of rockets at Israeli cities is no small matter. Neither is alleged beheading of babies etc atrocities Hamas did.It seems that Hamas' female prisoners are beaten up & have their pants in blood in posted video(s). So killing of civilians & rapes
are a fact.Come to think of it, probably everybody is better off if the Gaza belongs to Israel... I doubt the life in Gaza is worth living anyway, a barren strip of desert, cities & people existing there solely because of monetary aid from the world.
However Israel is likely going at it the wrong way, but what would be the right way is the question...If Israel takes Gaza, where will the 2 million people be located?Do you think West Bank would take them? How would they get there?Personal question PWL..
.How would you feel about those 2 million people moving to Egypt?I sure as hell don't want them in Europe. Not sure if even liberals in Europe do.

Egypt has close to 9 million refugees from Sudan and Syria right now.

Of course it has plenty of Palestinians as well.

But I don't believe Egypt will simply accept to take the millions that are currently residing in Israel. There have been talk about getting them to move to Sinai but it won't be ever done.
The reason Egypt won't take them is that people in the Arab world doesn't want to surrender the full land to Israel and close the book on what used to be called the Palestinian state, and moslems won't rest until they get back Al-Aqsa Mosque.

Honestly, I know this specific area of the earth will see one of the worst wars one day.

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PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:

But I don't believe Egypt will simply accept to take the millions that
are currently residing in Israel. There have been talk about getting
them to move to Sinai but it won't be ever done. The reason Egypt
won't take them is that people in the Arab world doesn't want to
surrender the full land to Israel and close the book on what used to
be called the Palestinian state, and moslems won't rest until they get
back Al-Aqsa Mosque.

Honestly, I know this specific area of the earth will see one of the
worst wars one day.

Wait, isn't this religion stuff supposed to bring out the best in people
and improve our lives?

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PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:> But I don't believe Egypt will simply accept to take the millions that> are currently residing in Israel. There have been talk about getting> them to move to Sinai but it won't be ever done. The reason

Egypt> won't take them is that people in the Arab world doesn't want to> surrender the full land to Israel and close the book on what used to> be called the Palestinian state, and moslems won't rest until they get> back Al-Aqsa Mosque.>> Honestly, I know
this specific area of the earth will see one of the> worst wars one day.Wait, isn't this religion stuff supposed to bring out the best in peopleand improve our lives?

Their book told them they will get their promised land.

There are Jews in NYC that don't believe in or support Israel.
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TT kirjoitti 12.10.2023 klo 5.50:

Hindus used to have this nice tradition of burning wife alive in center
of village when the husband had died...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(practice)

British Governor-General of India Lord William Bentinck to enact the
Bengal Sati Regulation, 1829, declaring the practice of burning or
burying alive of Hindu widows to be punishable by the criminal courts.[20][21][22]

"Burning or burying alive"... Jesus!

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PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 12.10.2023 klo 2.16:

jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:> But I don't believe Egypt will simply accept to take the millions that> are currently residing in Israel. There have been talk about getting> them to move to Sinai but it won't be ever done. The reason

Egypt> won't take them is that people in the Arab world doesn't want to> surrender the full land to Israel and close the book on what used to> be called the Palestinian state, and moslems won't rest until they get> back Al-Aqsa Mosque.>> Honestly, I know
this specific area of the earth will see one of the> worst wars one day.Wait, isn't this religion stuff supposed to bring out the best in peopleand improve our lives?


Yes, wonderful religion... people shouting glory to Allah when cutting
throats, literally.

Hindus used to have this nice tradition of burning wife alive in center
of village when the husband had died...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(practice)

Their book told them they will get their promised land.

Hamas did send some there.

To be fair, Jews did live there before UN, USA and CCCP forming Israel.
Around 30% in the region were Jews.
Of course forming a nation based on religious book is utter nonsense.

There are Jews in NYC that don't believe in or support Israel.

Obviously. These peple have one standard deviation higher IQ than
average white population.

There may even be few Muslims who don't believe they get 72 virgins in
paradise for martyrdom?

Btw, why the hell are Muslim, Christian, Jew and Hindu spelled with
capital letter? Makes no damn sense to me.

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PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 12.10.2023 klo 2.16:> jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:> But I don't believe Egypt will simply accept to take the millions that> are currently residing in Israel.

There have been talk about getting> them to move to Sinai but it won't be ever done. The reason Egypt> won't take them is that people in the Arab world doesn't want to> surrender the full land to Israel and close the book on what used to> be called the
Palestinian state, and moslems won't rest until they get> back Al-Aqsa Mosque.>> Honestly, I know this specific area of the earth will see one of the> worst wars one day.Wait, isn't this religion stuff supposed to bring out the best in peopleand improve
our lives?> Yes, wonderful religion... people shouting glory to Allah when cutting throats, literally.Hindus used to have this nice tradition of burning wife alive in center of village when the husband had died...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(
practice)> Their book told them they will get their promised land.> Hamas did send some there.To be fair, Jews did live there before UN, USA and CCCP forming Israel. Around 30% in the region were Jews.Of course forming a nation based on religious book is
utter nonsense.> There are Jews in NYC that don't believe in or support Israel.Obviously. These peple have one standard deviation higher IQ than average white population.There may even be few Muslims who don't believe they get 72 virgins in paradise for
martyrdom?Btw, why the hell are Muslim, Christian, Jew and Hindu spelled with capital letter? Makes no damn sense to me.

I really don't believe the beheaded babies story even if there are photos. The media is being manipulated right now for what to come. Clearly the purpose of this is to get people like you to saw wow, Israel should nuke them.
https://news.sky.com/story/its-important-to-separate-the-facts-from-speculation-what-we-actually-know-about-the-viral-report-of-beheaded-babies-in-israel-12982329

https://www.unilad.com/news/world-news/hamas-denies-militants-beheading-children-during-israel-attack-344717-20231011

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PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:

Don't believe everything that gets delivered to you.

I always chuckle when a religious person says this.

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On Wednesday, 11 October 2023 at 18:28:41 UTC+1, TT wrote:

PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 11.10.2023 klo 20.09:

*skriptis <skri...@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r

*skriptis <skri...@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> https://nypost.com/2023/10/11/israeli-official-says-gaza-will-be-made-a-city-of-tents/amp/Israeli defense official says Gaza will be reduced to a ‘city of tents’ while a politician calls for

nuclear bombsBy Yaron SteinbuchPublished Oct. 11, 2023, 9:32 a.m. ETAn Israeli defense official vowed that Gaza will be wiped out and reduced to a “city of tents” in a punishing “ground maneuver” for the unprecedented attack against the Jewish
state — as a politician called for nuclear bombs to be used.The unnamed defense official told Israel’s Channel 13 that the Palestinian territory, which includes more than 2 million residents, would be reduced to rubble in the decimating blow.“Gaza
will eventually turn into a city of tents. There will be no buildings. The ground maneuver will surprise Hamas,” the official said in a stark warning to the terrorist group behind the weekend assault that killed more than 1,200 IsraelisMeanwhile,
Revital “Tally” Gotliv a Likud member of the Knesset, Israel’s parliament, called for the Jewish state to unleash nuclear warfare — even though Israel has never openly admitted to having the weaponry.“Jericho Missile! Jericho Missile! Strategic
alert. Before considering the introduction of forces. Doomsday weapon! This is my opinion. May God protect all our forces,” Gotliv tweeted Monday, according to a translation.“I urge you to do everything and use doomsday weapons fearlessly against our
enemies,” she said in another post, adding that Israel “must use everything in its arsenal.”“There is no pity! To the ground and crush Gaza. … Do everything before considering bringing troops into Gaza,” she wrote Tuesday.“We have artillery
capabilities. We invested huge budgets in it. Must use everything we have in the arsenal! The lives of our soldiers are more important and precious than any person in Gaza. The gloves will be removed!”Nikolai Sokov, senior fellow at the Vienna Center
for Disarmament and Non-Proliferation, told Newsweek that “loose talk” about nukes has increased due to the war in Ukraine and now the conflict in Gaza — but noted that the subject is a sensitive one in Israel.“For Israel, such loose talk is
perhaps even more damaging because the country does not even admit it has nuclear weapons, so an indirect confirmation is not good for its image,” Sokov told the outlet.He added that any potential targets would be too close for Israel to even consider
using such weapons without putting its own people at risk.“There are, effectively, no targets for nuclear weapons in this war/conflict,” he told Newsweek.On Tuesday, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant spoke to Israeli troops amassed along the Gaza border.�
��I have released all the restraints, we have [regained] control of the area, and we are moving to a full offense,” Gallant told the soldiers, The Times of Israel reported.“You will have the ability to change the reality here. You have seen the
prices [being paid], and you will get to see the change. Hamas wanted a change in Gaza. They will regret this moment. Gaza will never go back to what it was,” he continued.“Whoever comes to decapitate, murder women, Holocaust survivors, we will
eliminate him with all our might — and without compromise,” Gallant added.An Egyptian official told the outlet on Tuesday that Israel has informed Cairo that it is preparing for a months-long ground campaign in Gaza.The official added that Israel has
so far rejected Egypt’s efforts to mediate a de-escalation in the hostilities, suggesting that it seeks to deal a knockout blow to the terror group before considering a ceasefire.Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reportedly told President Joe Biden on
Sunday that Israel has no choice but to launch a ground assault.“We have to go in. We can’t negotiate now. We need to restore deterrence,” Bibi told Biden, three Israeli and US sources brief on the call told Axios.Biden did not try to change
Netanyahu’s mind, the outlet added, citing the sources.Also Tuesday, IDF spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari said that killing senior Hamas members is a top priority.“We will not stop the effort to eliminate senior Hamas officials, this is a top
priority,” Hagari told a reporter after Israeli strikes killed two senior Hamas members Monday night.The war between the Jewish state and Hamas raged for a fifth day Wednesday, as Israeli warplanes hammered neighborhood after neighborhood in the Gaza
Strip, reducing buildings to rubble and sending people scrambling to find safety.The IDF said more than 1,200 people, including 155 soldiers, have died in Israel since Saturday’s incursion.In Gaza, 1,055 people have been killed, including 260 children
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Israel is only the first target, warns Hamas commander
Mahmoud al-Zahar:

"The entire planet will be under our law; there will be no more Jews or Christian traitors.".

https://x.com/AmyMek/status/1711988348544491909?s=20

all the media and politicians told me they the Religion of Peace! :O

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On Wednesday, 11 October 2023 at 18:11:10 UTC+1, gap...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 1:09:20 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:

*skriptis <skri...@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r

*skriptis <skri...@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> https://nypost.com/2023/10/11/israeli-official-says-gaza-will-be-made-a-city-of-tents/amp/Israeli defense official says Gaza will be reduced to a ‘city of tents’ while a politician calls for

nuclear bombsBy Yaron SteinbuchPublished Oct. 11, 2023, 9:32 a.m. ETAn Israeli defense official vowed that Gaza will be wiped out and reduced to a “city of tents” in a punishing “ground maneuver” for the unprecedented attack against the Jewish
state — as a politician called for nuclear bombs to be used.The unnamed defense official told Israel’s Channel 13 that the Palestinian territory, which includes more than 2 million residents, would be reduced to rubble in the decimating blow.“Gaza
will eventually turn into a city of tents. There will be no buildings. The ground maneuver will surprise Hamas,” the official said in a stark warning to the terrorist group behind the weekend assault that killed more than 1,200 IsraelisMeanwhile,
Revital “Tally” Gotliv a Likud member of the Knesset, Israel’s parliament, called for the Jewish state to unleash nuclear warfare — even though Israel has never openly admitted to having the weaponry.“Jericho Missile! Jericho Missile! Strategic
alert. Before considering the introduction of forces. Doomsday weapon! This is my opinion. May God protect all our forces,” Gotliv tweeted Monday, according to a translation.“I urge you to do everything and use doomsday weapons fearlessly against our
enemies,” she said in another post, adding that Israel “must use everything in its arsenal.”“There is no pity! To the ground and crush Gaza. … Do everything before considering bringing troops into Gaza,” she wrote Tuesday.“We have artillery
capabilities. We invested huge budgets in it. Must use everything we have in the arsenal! The lives of our soldiers are more important and precious than any person in Gaza. The gloves will be removed!”Nikolai Sokov, senior fellow at the Vienna Center
for Disarmament and Non-Proliferation, told Newsweek that “loose talk” about nukes has increased due to the war in Ukraine and now the conflict in Gaza — but noted that the subject is a sensitive one in Israel.“For Israel, such loose talk is
perhaps even more damaging because the country does not even admit it has nuclear weapons, so an indirect confirmation is not good for its image,” Sokov told the outlet.He added that any potential targets would be too close for Israel to even consider
using such weapons without putting its own people at risk.“There are, effectively, no targets for nuclear weapons in this war/conflict,” he told Newsweek.On Tuesday, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant spoke to Israeli troops amassed along the Gaza border.�
��I have released all the restraints, we have [regained] control of the area, and we are moving to a full offense,” Gallant told the soldiers, The Times of Israel reported.“You will have the ability to change the reality here. You have seen the
prices [being paid], and you will get to see the change. Hamas wanted a change in Gaza. They will regret this moment. Gaza will never go back to what it was,” he continued.“Whoever comes to decapitate, murder women, Holocaust survivors, we will
eliminate him with all our might — and without compromise,” Gallant added.An Egyptian official told the outlet on Tuesday that Israel has informed Cairo that it is preparing for a months-long ground campaign in Gaza.The official added that Israel has
so far rejected Egypt’s efforts to mediate a de-escalation in the hostilities, suggesting that it seeks to deal a knockout blow to the terror group before considering a ceasefire.Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reportedly told President Joe Biden on
Sunday that Israel has no choice but to launch a ground assault.“We have to go in. We can’t negotiate now. We need to restore deterrence,” Bibi told Biden, three Israeli and US sources brief on the call told Axios.Biden did not try to change
Netanyahu’s mind, the outlet added, citing the sources.Also Tuesday, IDF spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari said that killing senior Hamas members is a top priority.“We will not stop the effort to eliminate senior Hamas officials, this is a top
priority,” Hagari told a reporter after Israeli strikes killed two senior Hamas members Monday night.The war between the Jewish state and Hamas raged for a fifth day Wednesday, as Israeli warplanes hammered neighborhood after neighborhood in the Gaza
Strip, reducing buildings to rubble and sending people scrambling to find safety.The IDF said more than 1,200 people, including 155 soldiers, have died in Israel since Saturday’s incursion.In Gaza, 1,055 people have been killed, including 260 children
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https://www.reuters.com/world/senior-iraqi-political-figure-threatens-target-us-interests-if-it-backs-israel-2023-10-10/

have you picked a side yet? what about your BLM loyalty??

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On Thursday, 12 October 2023 at 04:10:07 UTC+1, TT wrote:

TT kirjoitti 12.10.2023 klo 5.50:

Hindus used to have this nice tradition of burning wife alive in center
of village when the husband had died...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(practice)

British Governor-General of India Lord William Bentinck to enact the
Bengal Sati Regulation, 1829, declaring the practice of burning or
burying alive of Hindu widows to be punishable by the criminal courts.[20][21][22]

"Burning or burying alive"... Jesus!

Raja says all we did was oppress India and non-whites, banning slavery was obviously bad too.

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On Wednesday, 11 October 2023 at 23:25:48 UTC+1, jdeluise wrote:

PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> writes:

But I don't believe Egypt will simply accept to take the millions that
are currently residing in Israel. There have been talk about getting
them to move to Sinai but it won't be ever done. The reason Egypt
won't take them is that people in the Arab world doesn't want to
surrender the full land to Israel and close the book on what used to
be called the Palestinian state, and moslems won't rest until they get
back Al-Aqsa Mosque.

Honestly, I know this specific area of the earth will see one of the
worst wars one day.

Wait, isn't this religion stuff supposed to bring out the best in people
and improve our lives?

Israel is a wonderful example of mass immigration taking over the original majority and multiculturualism working.

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On Wednesday, 11 October 2023 at 19:48:21 UTC+1, PeteWasLucky wrote:

TT <T...@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r

PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 11.10.2023 klo 20.31:> *skriptis <skri...@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r>> https://nypost.com/2023/10/11/israeli-official-says-gaza-will-be-made-a-city-of-tents/amp/Israeli defense official says Gaza will be reduced to a ‘

city of tents’ while a politician calls for nuclear bombsBy Yaron SteinbuchPublished Oct. 11, 2023, 9:32 a.m. ETAn Israeli defense official vowed that Gaza will be wiped out and reduced to a “city of tents” in a punishing “ground maneuver” for
the unprecedented attack against the Jewish state — as a politician called for nuclear bombs to be used.The unnamed defense official told Israel’s Channel 13 that the Palestinian territory, which includes more than 2 million residents, would be
reduced to rubble in the decimating blow.“Gaza will eventually turn into a city of tents. There will be no buildings. The ground maneuver will surprise Hamas,” the official said in a stark warning to the terrorist group behind the weekend assault
that killed more than 1,200 IsraelisMeanwhile, Revital “Tally” Gotliv a Likud member of the Knesset, Israel’s parliament, called for the Jewish state to unleash nuclear warfare — even though Israel has never openly admitted to having the weaponry.
“Jericho Missile! Jericho Missile! Strategic alert. Before considering the introduction of forces. Doomsday weapon! This is my opinion. May God protect all our forces,” Gotliv tweeted Monday, according to a translation.“I urge you to do everything
and use doomsday weapons fearlessly against our enemies,” she said in another post, adding that Israel “must use everything in its arsenal.”“There is no pity! To the ground and crush Gaza. … Do everything before considering bringing troops into
Gaza,” she wrote Tuesday.“We have artillery capabilities. We invested huge budgets in it. Must use everything we have in the arsenal! The lives of our soldiers are more important and precious than any person in Gaza. The gloves will be removed!”
Nikolai Sokov, senior fellow at the Vienna Center for Disarmament and Non-Proliferation, told Newsweek that “loose talk” about nukes has increased due to the war in Ukraine and now the conflict in Gaza — but noted that the subject is a sensitive
one in Israel.“For Israel, such loose talk is perhaps even more damaging because the country does not even admit it has nuclear weapons, so an indirect confirmation is not good for its image,” Sokov told the outlet.He added that any potential targets
would be too close for Israel to even consider using such weapons without putting its own people at risk.“There are, effectively, no targets for nuclear weapons in this war/conflict,” he told Newsweek.On Tuesday, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant spoke
to Israeli troops amassed along the Gaza border.“I have released all the restraints, we have [regained] control of the area, and we are moving to a full offense,” Gallant told the soldiers, The Times of Israel reported.“You will have the ability to
change the reality here. You have seen the prices [being paid], and you will get to see the change. Hamas wanted a change in Gaza. They will regret this moment. Gaza will never go back to what it was,” he continued.“Whoever comes to decapitate,
murder women, Holocaust survivors, we will eliminate him with all our might — and without compromise,” Gallant added.An Egyptian official told the outlet on Tuesday that Israel has informed Cairo that it is preparing for a months-long ground campaign
in Gaza.The official added that Israel has so far rejected Egypt’s efforts to mediate a de-escalation in the hostilities, suggesting that it seeks to deal a knockout blow to the terror group before considering a ceasefire.Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu reportedly told President Joe Biden on Sunday that Israel has no choice but to launch a ground assault.“We have to go in. We can’t negotiate now. We need to restore deterrence,” Bibi told Biden, three Israeli and US sources brief on the
call told Axios.Biden did not try to change Netanyahu’s mind, the outlet added, citing the sources.Also Tuesday, IDF spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari said that killing senior Hamas members is a top priority.“We will not stop the effort to eliminate
senior Hamas officials, this is a top priority,” Hagari told a reporter after Israeli strikes killed two senior Hamas members Monday night.The war between the Jewish state and Hamas raged for a fifth day Wednesday, as Israeli warplanes hammered
neighborhood after neighborhood in the Gaza Strip, reducing buildings to rubble and sending people scrambling to find safety.The IDF said more than 1,200 people, including 155 soldiers, have died in Israel since Saturday’s incursion.In Gaza, 1,055
people have been killed, including 260 children and 230 women, according to authorities there. Israel says hundreds of Hamas fighters are among them. -- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html> >
Honestly it looks like this is something Israel planned for to get the last piece of land.> Breaking through the fences and failure of intelligence to spot anything that was unusual looks to be suspicious.> > I read that Egypt warned Israel many times
about something big that was going to happen and they ignored it.> > The plan is to achieve "the Greater Israel" consists in an area extending from the Nile to the Euphrates.It's obvious that Israel is milking the incident to max, they finally got their "
excuse". Of course they always wanted the Gaza strip... and who can really blame them... Thousands of rockets at Israeli cities is no small matter. Neither is alleged beheading of babies etc atrocities Hamas did.It seems that Hamas' female prisoners are
beaten up & have their pants in blood in posted video(s). So killing of civilians & rapes are a fact.Come to think of it, probably everybody is better off if the Gaza belongs to Israel... I doubt the life in Gaza is worth living anyway, a barren strip of
desert, cities & people existing there solely because of monetary aid from the world.However Israel is likely going at it the wrong way, but what would be the right way is the question...If Israel takes Gaza, where will the 2 million people be located?Do
you think West Bank would take them? How would they get there?Personal question PWL...How would you feel about those 2 million people moving to Egypt?I sure as hell don't want them in Europe. Not sure if even liberals in Europe do.

Egypt has close to 9 million refugees from Sudan and Syria right now.

Of course it has plenty of Palestinians as well.

But I don't believe Egypt will simply accept to take the millions that are currently residing in Israel. There have been talk about getting them to move to Sinai but it won't be ever done.
The reason Egypt won't take them is that people in the Arab world doesn't want to surrender the full land to Israel and close the book on what used to be called the Palestinian state, and moslems won't rest until they get back Al-Aqsa Mosque.

Honestly, I know this specific area of the earth will see one of the worst wars one day.

this is what shows all the Arab brotherhood stuff is nonsense, they don't want the Palestinians either, it quite sad for them. Basically mass Jewish immigration happened in the late 40's and they took over their land as the majority, now they're stuck.
Although has to be said if they didn't keep sending rockets, they could have had a decent land, they have more/better rights/money than everyone else in Arabia.
The Islamics already own the Al-Aqsa Mosque, Jews aren't allowed near it, only Christians allowed up there, the army guards told Icebeg off for praying next to it! :D

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On 12.10.2023 12.35, The Iceberg wrote:

On Thursday, 12 October 2023 at 04:10:07 UTC+1, TT wrote:

TT kirjoitti 12.10.2023 klo 5.50:

Hindus used to have this nice tradition of burning wife alive in center
of village when the husband had died...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(practice)

British Governor-General of India Lord William Bentinck to enact the
Bengal Sati Regulation, 1829, declaring the practice of burning or
burying alive of Hindu widows to be punishable by the criminal
courts.[20][21][22]

"Burning or burying alive"... Jesus!

Raja says all we did was oppress India and non-whites, banning slavery was obviously bad too.

You should at least send the stones back. With interest. Why not the
Stones too.

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On Thursday, 12 October 2023 at 03:50:31 UTC+1, TT wrote:

PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 12.10.2023 klo 2.16:

jdeluise <jdel...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> writes:> But I don't believe Egypt will simply accept to take the millions that> are currently residing in Israel. There have been talk about getting> them to move to Sinai but it won't be ever done. The reason

Egypt> won't take them is that people in the Arab world doesn't want to> surrender the full land to Israel and close the book on what used to> be called the Palestinian state, and moslems won't rest until they get> back Al-Aqsa Mosque.>> Honestly, I know
this specific area of the earth will see one of the> worst wars one day.Wait, isn't this religion stuff supposed to bring out the best in peopleand improve our lives?

Yes, wonderful religion... people shouting glory to Allah when cutting throats, literally.

Hindus used to have this nice tradition of burning wife alive in center
of village when the husband had died...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(practice)

Their book told them they will get their promised land.

Hamas did send some there.

To be fair, Jews did live there before UN, USA and CCCP forming Israel. Around 30% in the region were Jews.
Of course forming a nation based on religious book is utter nonsense.

so here's a good one and would like everyone to give an answer - are the Jews a race or a religion? cos what race has its own nation and what religion has its own nation? oh how can you have atheist Jews too?

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On 10/11/23 8:10 PM, TT wrote:

TT kirjoitti 12.10.2023 klo 5.50:

Hindus used to have this nice tradition of burning wife alive in
center of village when the husband had died...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(practice)

British Governor-General of India Lord William Bentinck to enact the
Bengal Sati Regulation, 1829, declaring the practice of burning or
burying alive of Hindu widows to be punishable by the criminal courts.[20][21][22]

"Burning or burying alive"... Jesus!

It's hard to see the cultural advantage to the practice of suttee. If it
was voluntary, it's a pretty exaggerated show of loyalty, at the expense
of any surviving children (seems like there would also evolved a
practice for taking care of the kids in that case).

Traditional cultural customs usually tend to provide an advantage to the society overall. Primogeniture, or any other similar custom where the
parent's property goes to a pre-specified child by *custom* and without
the necessity of a will tends to reduce intra-family bloodshed. In the
case of awarding all of the parent's assets to a single child, it also
forms an expansionary society that tends toward acquisitive warfare: the
2nd thru n sons go out and dispossess weaker cultures. Contrast this
with assets being equally shared among the male off-spring, where you
tend to diffuse, rather than concentrate assets.

Worst case of equal distribution is the parents' plot of land being
repeatedly subdivided among male offspring until each descendant has a
plot of 50 feet by 50 feet and all of them are living like marginal
pissants, ripe for being over-run by an expansionary primogeniture culture.

https://youtu.be/FKRB7bzgAsU?t=20

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On 10/11/23 9:34 PM, TT wrote:

PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 12.10.2023 klo 7.07:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r

PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 12.10.2023 klo 2.16:> jdeluise
<jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>> PeteWasLucky
<waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:> But I don't believe Egypt will
simply accept to take the millions that> are currently residing in
Israel. There have been talk about getting> them to move to Sinai
but it won't be ever done.  The reason Egypt> won't take them is
that people in the Arab world doesn't want to> surrender the full
land to Israel and close the book on what used to> be called the
Palestinian state, and moslems won't rest until they get> back
Al-Aqsa Mosque.>> Honestly, I know this specific area of the earth
will see one of the> worst wars one day.Wait, isn't this religion
stuff supposed to bring out the best in peopleand improve our
lives?> Yes, wonderful religion... people shouting glory to Allah
when cutting throats, literally.Hindus used to have this nice
tradition of burning wife alive in center of village when the
husband had died...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(practice)>
Their book told them they will get their promised land.> Hamas did
send some there.To be fair, Jews did live there before UN, USA and
CCCP forming Israel. Around 30% in the region were Jews.Of course
forming a nation based on religious book is utter nonsense.> There
are Jews in NYC that don't believe in or support Israel.Obviously.
These peple have one standard deviation higher IQ than average white
population.There may even be few Muslims who don't believe they get
72 virgins in paradise for martyrdom?Btw, why the hell are Muslim,
Christian, Jew and Hindu spelled with capital letter? Makes no damn
sense to me.

I really don't believe the beheaded babies story even if there are
photos. The media is being manipulated right now for what to come.
Clearly the purpose of this is to get people like you to saw wow,
Israel should nuke them.
https://news.sky.com/story/its-important-to-separate-the-facts-from-speculation-what-we-actually-know-about-the-viral-report-of-beheaded-babies-in-israel-12982329


https://www.unilad.com/news/world-news/hamas-denies-militants-beheading-children-during-israel-attack-344717-20231011


Don't believe everything that gets delivered to you.

I don't believe beheaded babies story either, until there's proof.
Typical war propaganda. It's possible though.

But muslims *are* big on beheading people. And I think I saw some
clips where they are shooting civilians while shouting 'glory to
allah'. It's just insane.

Hamas is terrorist scum, using religion as excuse as they usually are
in this part of the world. Also, around half of the people in Gaza
voted for them... while Hamas is being very authoritarian even to
normal inhabitants there. You don't wanna live under Hamas rule. Crazy
blood lusting fanatics who deserve everything that's coming to them.
Pity for civilians caught in the middle (-East).

I'm trying hard to remember, but when Al Fatah negotiated, those who did
not want that compromise--or maybe *any* compromise--formed up Hamas, or
went to Hamas and co-opted it for the hard-liners.

Is this more or less how it went, do you know?

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On 10/12/23 2:33 AM, The Iceberg wrote:

On Wednesday, 11 October 2023 at 23:25:48 UTC+1, jdeluise wrote:

PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> writes:

But I don't believe Egypt will simply accept to take the millions that
are currently residing in Israel. There have been talk about getting
them to move to Sinai but it won't be ever done. The reason Egypt
won't take them is that people in the Arab world doesn't want to
surrender the full land to Israel and close the book on what used to
be called the Palestinian state, and moslems won't rest until they get
back Al-Aqsa Mosque.

Honestly, I know this specific area of the earth will see one of the
worst wars one day.

Wait, isn't this religion stuff supposed to bring out the best in people
and improve our lives?

Israel is a wonderful example of mass immigration taking over the original majority and multiculturualism working.

It is what happened when the Mongol expansions drove the Germanic tribes
west. These were sorta like the 3rd Century refugees. Happened again in
the 5th C to the Slavs.

So the Israelis were sorta like the Golden Horde and the Palestinians
were like the Ostrogoths.

History does not repeat itself exactly, but...

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On Thursday, October 12, 2023 at 9:57:41 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 10/11/23 9:07 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:

TT <T...@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r

PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 12.10.2023 klo 2.16:> jdeluise <jdel...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> writes:> But I don't believe Egypt will simply accept to take the millions that> are currently residing in Israel.

There have been talk about getting> them to move to Sinai but it won't be ever done. The reason Egypt> won't take them is that people in the Arab world doesn't want to> surrender the full land to Israel and close the book on what used to> be called the
Palestinian state, and moslems won't rest until they get> back Al-Aqsa Mosque.>> Honestly, I know this specific area of the earth will see one of the> worst wars one day.Wait, isn't this religion stuff supposed to bring out the best in peopleand improve
our lives?> Yes, wonderful religion... people shouting glory to Allah when cutting throats, literally.Hindus used to have this nice tradition of burning wife alive in center of village when the husband had died...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(
practice)> Their book told them they will get their promised land.> Hamas did send some there.To be fair, Jews did live there before UN, USA and CCCP forming Israel. Around 30% in the region were Jews.Of course forming a nation based on religious book is
utter nonsense.> There are Jews in NYC that don't believe in or support Israel.Obviously. These peple have one standard deviation higher IQ than average white population.There may even be few Muslims who don't believe they get 72 virgins in paradise for
martyrdom?Btw, why the hell are Muslim, Christian, Jew and Hindu spelled with capital letter? Makes no damn sense to me.

I really don't believe the beheaded babies story even if there are photos.

You mean to say that someone wanted a souvenir of this?

The media is being manipulated right now for what to come. Clearly the purpose of this is to get people like you to saw wow, Israel should nuke them.
https://news.sky.com/story/its-important-to-separate-the-facts-from-speculation-what-we-actually-know-about-the-viral-report-of-beheaded-babies-in-israel-12982329

https://www.unilad.com/news/world-news/hamas-denies-militants-beheading-children-during-israel-attack-344717-20231011

Don't believe everything that gets delivered to you.

We're almost at the converse: believe nothing until it is supported by multiple disparate sources *AND* it conforms to your life experience.

Now, this gets real time-consuming so you have the choice of either: a) reducing the requirements for verification; or b) triaging incoming
events and using your best judgement, select *only* those that will materially affect you and yours. The rest you just drop, ignore.

Right now, what's happening in Gaza has been triaged out. If that
changes, I'll re-instate it, but I doubt that this will happen.

It's like with Ukraine, in that regard.

Our propaganda in the olden days was much more straightforward. A few dominant newspapers and television networks presented an agreed-upon reality and most people swallowed it in one gulp. Today it's more like a bunch of rival PR firms clamoring for
attention, each pushing their own self-serving message. "Truth" no longer even has a false mailing address to give us comfort.

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On Thursday, October 12, 2023 at 11:08:51 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 10/12/23 10:19 AM, Gracchus wrote:

On Thursday, October 12, 2023 at 9:57:41 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 10/11/23 9:07 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:

TT <T...@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r

PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 12.10.2023 klo 2.16:> jdeluise <jdel...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> writes:> But I don't believe Egypt will simply accept to take the millions that> are currently residing in Israel.

There have been talk about getting> them to move to Sinai but it won't be ever done. The reason Egypt> won't take them is that people in the Arab world doesn't want to> surrender the full land to Israel and close the book on what used to> be called the
Palestinian state, and moslems won't rest until they get> back Al-Aqsa Mosque.>> Honestly, I know this specific area of the earth will see one of the> worst wars one day.Wait, isn't this religion stuff supposed to bring out the best in peopleand improve
our lives?> Yes, wonderful religion... people shouting glory to Allah when cutting throats, literally.Hindus used to have this nice tradition of burning wife alive in center of village when the husband had died...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(
practice)> Their book told them they will get their promised land.> Hamas did send some there.To be fair, Jews did live there before UN, USA and CCCP forming Israel. Around 30% in the region were Jews.Of course forming a nation based on religious book is
utter nonsense.> There are Jews in NYC that don't believe in or support Israel.Obviously. These peple have one standard deviation higher IQ than average white population.There may even be few Muslims who don't believe they get 72 virgins in paradise for
martyrdom?Btw, why the hell are Muslim, Christian, Jew and Hindu spelled with capital letter? Makes no damn sense to me.

I really don't believe the beheaded babies story even if there are photos.

You mean to say that someone wanted a souvenir of this?

The media is being manipulated right now for what to come. Clearly the purpose of this is to get people like you to saw wow, Israel should nuke them.
https://news.sky.com/story/its-important-to-separate-the-facts-from-speculation-what-we-actually-know-about-the-viral-report-of-beheaded-babies-in-israel-12982329

https://www.unilad.com/news/world-news/hamas-denies-militants-beheading-children-during-israel-attack-344717-20231011

Don't believe everything that gets delivered to you.

We're almost at the converse: believe nothing until it is supported by
multiple disparate sources *AND* it conforms to your life experience.

Now, this gets real time-consuming so you have the choice of either: a) >> reducing the requirements for verification; or b) triaging incoming
events and using your best judgement, select *only* those that will
materially affect you and yours. The rest you just drop, ignore.

Right now, what's happening in Gaza has been triaged out. If that
changes, I'll re-instate it, but I doubt that this will happen.

It's like with Ukraine, in that regard.

Our propaganda in the olden days was much more straightforward. A few dominant newspapers and television networks presented an agreed-upon reality and most people swallowed it in one gulp. Today it's more like a bunch of rival PR firms clamoring for

attention, each pushing their own self-serving message. "Truth" no longer even has a false mailing address to give us comfort.

Agreed, gracchus.

If you think about it, it is by nature very disorienting. I think that
the current tendency for the public to simply choose a megaphone to
follow, regardless, based on emotional satisfaction, is derived from a
deep desire to regain the security of orientation.

They value the security of *belief* over the discomfort of doubt or uncertainty.

Fuck that, I say... :^)

Precisely.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On Thursday, 12 October 2023 at 18:01:20 UTC+1, Sawfish wrote:

On 10/11/23 9:34 PM, TT wrote:

PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 12.10.2023 klo 7.07:

TT <T...@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r

PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 12.10.2023 klo 2.16:> jdeluise
<jdel...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>> PeteWasLucky
<waleed...@gmail.com> writes:> But I don't believe Egypt will
simply accept to take the millions that> are currently residing in
Israel. There have been talk about getting> them to move to Sinai
but it won't be ever done. The reason Egypt> won't take them is
that people in the Arab world doesn't want to> surrender the full
land to Israel and close the book on what used to> be called the
Palestinian state, and moslems won't rest until they get> back
Al-Aqsa Mosque.>> Honestly, I know this specific area of the earth
will see one of the> worst wars one day.Wait, isn't this religion
stuff supposed to bring out the best in peopleand improve our
lives?> Yes, wonderful religion... people shouting glory to Allah
when cutting throats, literally.Hindus used to have this nice
tradition of burning wife alive in center of village when the
husband had died...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(practice)>
Their book told them they will get their promised land.> Hamas did
send some there.To be fair, Jews did live there before UN, USA and
CCCP forming Israel. Around 30% in the region were Jews.Of course
forming a nation based on religious book is utter nonsense.> There
are Jews in NYC that don't believe in or support Israel.Obviously.
These peple have one standard deviation higher IQ than average white
population.There may even be few Muslims who don't believe they get
72 virgins in paradise for martyrdom?Btw, why the hell are Muslim,
Christian, Jew and Hindu spelled with capital letter? Makes no damn
sense to me.

I really don't believe the beheaded babies story even if there are
photos. The media is being manipulated right now for what to come.
Clearly the purpose of this is to get people like you to saw wow,
Israel should nuke them.
https://news.sky.com/story/its-important-to-separate-the-facts-from-speculation-what-we-actually-know-about-the-viral-report-of-beheaded-babies-in-israel-12982329


https://www.unilad.com/news/world-news/hamas-denies-militants-beheading-children-during-israel-attack-344717-20231011


Don't believe everything that gets delivered to you.

I don't believe beheaded babies story either, until there's proof.
Typical war propaganda. It's possible though.

But muslims *are* big on beheading people. And I think I saw some
clips where they are shooting civilians while shouting 'glory to
allah'. It's just insane.

Hamas is terrorist scum, using religion as excuse as they usually are
in this part of the world. Also, around half of the people in Gaza
voted for them... while Hamas is being very authoritarian even to
normal inhabitants there. You don't wanna live under Hamas rule. Crazy blood lusting fanatics who deserve everything that's coming to them.
Pity for civilians caught in the middle (-East).

I'm trying hard to remember, but when Al Fatah negotiated, those who did
not want that compromise--or maybe *any* compromise--formed up Hamas, or went to Hamas and co-opted it for the hard-liners.

Is this more or less how it went, do you know?

yes and the Palestinian people idiotically chose them instead of having their own land and lasting peace. They had that as a real option with Israel offering such a situation, yet they voted in Hamas. Am all for free voting and for those going against
the status quo eg. Marie-Le-Penn in France etc. but voting for Hamas offered nothing, really just the status quo again of misery and trouble. The Arabs do seem like children, they always want all or nothing and would rather live in the stone-age than
compromise. Apparently the Hamas leaders live in a big mansions, so they love it of course.

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On Thursday, 12 October 2023 at 19:19:01 UTC+1, Gracchus wrote:

On Thursday, October 12, 2023 at 11:08:51 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 10/12/23 10:19 AM, Gracchus wrote:

On Thursday, October 12, 2023 at 9:57:41 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 10/11/23 9:07 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:

TT <T...@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r

PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 12.10.2023 klo 2.16:> jdeluise <jdel...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> writes:> But I don't believe Egypt will simply accept to take the millions that> are currently residing in Israel.

There have been talk about getting> them to move to Sinai but it won't be ever done. The reason Egypt> won't take them is that people in the Arab world doesn't want to> surrender the full land to Israel and close the book on what used to> be called the
Palestinian state, and moslems won't rest until they get> back Al-Aqsa Mosque.>> Honestly, I know this specific area of the earth will see one of the> worst wars one day.Wait, isn't this religion stuff supposed to bring out the best in peopleand improve
our lives?> Yes, wonderful religion... people shouting glory to Allah when cutting throats, literally.Hindus used to have this nice tradition of burning wife alive in center of village when the husband had died...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(
practice)> Their book told them they will get their promised land.> Hamas did send some there.To be fair, Jews did live there before UN, USA and CCCP forming Israel. Around 30% in the region were Jews.Of course forming a nation based on religious book is
utter nonsense.> There are Jews in NYC that don't believe in or support Israel.Obviously. These peple have one standard deviation higher IQ than average white population.There may even be few Muslims who don't believe they get 72 virgins in paradise for
martyrdom?Btw, why the hell are Muslim, Christian, Jew and Hindu spelled with capital letter? Makes no damn sense to me.

I really don't believe the beheaded babies story even if there are photos.

You mean to say that someone wanted a souvenir of this?

The media is being manipulated right now for what to come. Clearly the purpose of this is to get people like you to saw wow, Israel should nuke them.
https://news.sky.com/story/its-important-to-separate-the-facts-from-speculation-what-we-actually-know-about-the-viral-report-of-beheaded-babies-in-israel-12982329

https://www.unilad.com/news/world-news/hamas-denies-militants-beheading-children-during-israel-attack-344717-20231011

Don't believe everything that gets delivered to you.

We're almost at the converse: believe nothing until it is supported by >> multiple disparate sources *AND* it conforms to your life experience. >>
Now, this gets real time-consuming so you have the choice of either: a) >> reducing the requirements for verification; or b) triaging incoming
events and using your best judgement, select *only* those that will
materially affect you and yours. The rest you just drop, ignore.

Right now, what's happening in Gaza has been triaged out. If that
changes, I'll re-instate it, but I doubt that this will happen.

It's like with Ukraine, in that regard.

Our propaganda in the olden days was much more straightforward. A few dominant newspapers and television networks presented an agreed-upon reality and most people swallowed it in one gulp. Today it's more like a bunch of rival PR firms clamoring

for attention, each pushing their own self-serving message. "Truth" no longer even has a false mailing address to give us comfort.

Agreed, gracchus.

If you think about it, it is by nature very disorienting. I think that
the current tendency for the public to simply choose a megaphone to follow, regardless, based on emotional satisfaction, is derived from a deep desire to regain the security of orientation.

They value the security of *belief* over the discomfort of doubt or uncertainty.

Fuck that, I say... :^)

Precisely.

yes well said, agree.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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