• Re: Looting

    From jdeluise@21:1/5 to TT@dprk.kp on Wed Sep 27 12:12:32 2023
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

    Very satisfying video

    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20

    Next time bring more police with batons & tasers.

    Wow, you've really taken a hard right turn lately.

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 27 22:19:35 2023
    Very satisfying video

    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20

    Next time bring more police with batons & tasers.

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  • From jdeluise@21:1/5 to TT@dprk.kp on Wed Sep 27 12:42:47 2023
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

    jdeluise kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.12:
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

    Very satisfying video

    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20

    Next time bring more police with batons & tasers.
    Wow, you've really taken a hard right turn lately.

    Criminal acts shouldn't have consequences?

    Sure they should, but what's the Finnish connection? It seems like
    you're just reciting right-wing talking points lately. These are the
    biggest problems in the world according to them, and apparently also to
    a Finn who doesn't deal with these problems regularly.

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Wed Sep 27 22:51:22 2023
    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:> jdeluise kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.12:>> TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:>> >>> Very satisfying video>>>>>> https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20>>>>>> Next time bring more police with batons & tasers.>> Wow, you've
    really taken a hard right turn lately.>> Criminal acts shouldn't have consequences?Sure they should, but what's the Finnish connection? It seems likeyou're just reciting right-wing talking points lately. These are thebiggest problems in the world
    according to them, and apparently also toa Finn who doesn't deal with these problems regularly.


    You tell us then what are the biggest problems in the world?

    Is it antisemitism and climate change?

    Hahahaha
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  • From jdeluise@21:1/5 to skriptis@post.t-com.hr on Wed Sep 27 12:57:04 2023
    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:

    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:> jdeluise kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.12:>>
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:>> >>> Very satisfying video>>>>>> https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20>>>>>> Next
    time bring more police with batons & tasers.>> Wow, you've really
    taken a hard right turn lately.>> Criminal acts shouldn't have consequences?Sure they should, but what's the Finnish connection? It
    seems likeyou're just reciting right-wing talking points lately.
    These are thebiggest problems in the world according to them, and
    apparently also toa Finn who doesn't deal with these problems
    regularly.


    You tell us then what are the biggest problems in the world?

    Is it antisemitism and climate change?

    Hahahaha

    Certainly not a property crime wave in a distant, foreign city...

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=c3=b6s?=@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Wed Sep 27 23:59:46 2023
    On 27.9.2023 23.12, jdeluise wrote:
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

    Very satisfying video

    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20

    Next time bring more police with batons & tasers.

    Wow, you've really taken a hard right turn lately.

    Tiny is a former 24/7 Nadal fan looking for content into his life. He
    grew tired of being a Ukraine/geopolitics expert after growing tired of
    being a covid expert. Now it's time for something else.

    After getting booted from Mommy's basement to the communal rentals,
    after counting the PoC next door, and after counting and overstating
    (what else) the numbers of brown people in the subway, our Tiny found
    his calling. Identity politics! Gays, trans, brown people, the 20
    gypsies in Finland, and ... WOKIES! No credentials, no cv needed. You
    just need to FEEL stuffs. Deeply. Experience in "statistics" amounting
    to nonsense is handy.

    "Imma man with a purpose!"

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 00:03:03 2023
    jdeluise kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.42:
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

    jdeluise kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.12:
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

    Very satisfying video

    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20

    Next time bring more police with batons & tasers.
    Wow, you've really taken a hard right turn lately.

    Criminal acts shouldn't have consequences?

    Sure they should, but what's the Finnish connection? It seems like
    you're just reciting right-wing talking points lately. These are the
    biggest problems in the world according to them, and apparently also to
    a Finn who doesn't deal with these problems regularly.

    There is some small scale stealing in Finland too, in areas with immigrants.

    My reaction comes from seeing quite a few videos from USA in which
    mostly black people go to store and take bags of stuff without anybody
    doing anything about it. It's quite puzzling manifestation of failed
    society.

    Meanwhile coloured youth street gangs have become the norm in Helsinki.
    They're stealing your clothes and taking even shoes, targeting other
    young people. There are also a lot videos where coloured youths beats up
    a white Finnish kid, always a group against one. They humiliate victim
    in various ways, beat him/her up and film it. Meanwhile official Finland
    talked all summer about nonexistent racism towards coloured here, couple politicians had used the n-word or such in their writing over a decade
    ago. The outrage.

    There's on average a bomb/grenade exploding every other day in Sweden...

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/31/bomb-experts-called-in-after-swedish-cities-see-four-explosions-in-just-over-an-hour

    Something has gone terribly wrong.

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 27 23:37:04 2023
    jdeluise kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.12:
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

    Very satisfying video

    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20

    Next time bring more police with batons & tasers.

    Wow, you've really taken a hard right turn lately.

    Criminal acts shouldn't have consequences?

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Wed Sep 27 23:17:07 2023
    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:> jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>> TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:> jdeluise kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.12:>>> TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:>> >>> Very satisfying video>>>>>>> https://x.com/EndWokeness/
    status/1706843336743542906?s=20>>>>>> Next> time bring more police with batons & tasers.>> Wow, you've really> taken a hard right turn lately.>> Criminal acts shouldn't have> consequences?Sure they should, but what's the Finnish connection? It> seems
    likeyou're just reciting right-wing talking points lately.> These are thebiggest problems in the world according to them, and> apparently also toa Finn who doesn't deal with these problems> regularly.>>> You tell us then what are the biggest problems in
    the world?>> Is it antisemitism and climate change?>> HahahahaCertainly not a property crime wave in a distant, foreign city...


    Don't be such a troll.

    You think we are stupid?

    Or you are stupid?


    It's not about particular city, it's about social reaction to previously maligned use of force by law enforcement.



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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to TT@dprk.kp on Wed Sep 27 23:20:53 2023
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:
    The outrage.There's on average a bomb/grenade exploding every other day in Sweden...https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/31/bomb-experts-called-in-after-swedish-cities-see-four-explosions-in-just-over-an-hour Something has gone terribly wrong.




    Sweden? Lol


    Look at the evil smirk.


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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 00:58:59 2023
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.59:
    On 27.9.2023 23.12, jdeluise wrote:
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

    Very satisfying video

    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20

    Next time bring more police with batons & tasers.

    Wow, you've really taken a hard right turn lately.

    Tiny is a former 24/7 Nadal fan looking for content into his life. He
    grew tired of being a Ukraine/geopolitics expert after growing tired of
    being a covid expert. Now it's time for something else.

    After getting booted from Mommy's basement to the communal rentals,
    after counting the PoC next door, and after counting and overstating
    (what else) the numbers of brown people in the subway, our Tiny found
    his calling. Identity politics! Gays, trans, brown people, the 20
    gypsies in Finland, and ... WOKIES! No credentials, no cv needed. You
    just need to FEEL stuffs. Deeply. Experience in "statistics" amounting
    to nonsense is handy.

    "Imma man with a purpose!"


    You really have some unhealthy obsession & attitude problems towards
    me... get over it whatever your problem is. You seem to lack a
    well-rounded personality.

    I thought that you're a relatively smart guy putting up a front for RST,
    and just trolling away. But no, it seems this is all what you really
    are. Sad.

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 27 15:49:02 2023
    On 9/27/23 2:58 PM, TT wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.59:
    On 27.9.2023 23.12, jdeluise wrote:
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

    Very satisfying video

    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20

    Next time bring more police with batons & tasers.

    Wow, you've really taken a hard right turn lately.

    Tiny is a former 24/7 Nadal fan looking for content into his life. He
    grew tired of being a Ukraine/geopolitics expert after growing tired
    of being a covid expert. Now it's time for something else.

    After getting booted from Mommy's basement to the communal rentals,
    after counting the PoC next door, and after counting and overstating
    (what else) the numbers of brown people in the subway, our Tiny found
    his calling. Identity politics! Gays, trans, brown people, the 20
    gypsies in Finland, and ... WOKIES! No credentials, no cv needed. You
    just need to FEEL stuffs. Deeply. Experience in "statistics"
    amounting to nonsense is handy.

    "Imma man with a purpose!"


    You really have some unhealthy obsession & attitude problems towards
    me... get over it whatever your problem is. You seem to lack a
    well-rounded personality.

    I thought that you're a relatively smart guy putting up a front for
    RST, and just trolling away. But no, it seems this is all what you
    really are. Sad.

    To quote bob...

    "BINGO!"

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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Wed Sep 27 20:49:30 2023
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 4:12:36 PM UTC-4, jdeluise wrote:
    TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:

    Very satisfying video

    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20

    Next time bring more police with batons & tasers.
    Wow, you've really taken a hard right turn lately.

    Is it not the right turn?

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  • From jdeluise@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Wed Sep 27 20:04:39 2023
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:


    Oh wow, what did TT do to get you this pissed? Man, he hasn't even
    posted 5% of what you sell here everyday. I don't remember him saying
    he was covid expert, it was you promoting covid measures and vaccines
    like if they were guaranteed entry to heaven. All he said that he was
    going to take the vaccines. Did he abandon a religion you were
    promoting and this got you pissed? You owe us an explanation :)

    Actually TT was pretty vocal about it, he was very worried about long
    COVID IIRC.

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  • From jdeluise@21:1/5 to skriptis@post.t-com.hr on Wed Sep 27 19:42:31 2023
    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:

    Don't be such a troll.

    You think we are stupid?

    Or you are stupid?


    It's not about particular city, it's about social reaction to
    previously maligned use of force by law enforcement.

    Don't worry, they're going to solve this crime problem for you through pervasive, intrusive surveillance and AI powered drones and robotics
    soon.

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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 27 21:00:06 2023
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 4:59:50 PM UTC-4, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 27.9.2023 23.12, jdeluise wrote:
    TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:

    Very satisfying video

    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20

    Next time bring more police with batons & tasers.

    Wow, you've really taken a hard right turn lately.
    Tiny is a former 24/7 Nadal fan looking for content into his life. He
    grew tired of being a Ukraine/geopolitics expert after growing tired of being a covid expert. Now it's time for something else.

    After getting booted from Mommy's basement to the communal rentals,
    after counting the PoC next door, and after counting and overstating
    (what else) the numbers of brown people in the subway, our Tiny found
    his calling. Identity politics! Gays, trans, brown people, the 20
    gypsies in Finland, and ... WOKIES! No credentials, no cv needed. You
    just need to FEEL stuffs. Deeply. Experience in "statistics" amounting
    to nonsense is handy.

    "Imma man with a purpose!"

    --
    "And off they went, from here to there,
    The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
    -- Traditional
    Oh wow, what did TT do to get you this pissed?
    Man, he hasn't even posted 5% of what you sell here everyday.
    I don't remember him saying he was covid expert, it was you promoting covid measures and vaccines like if they were guaranteed entry to heaven. All he said that he was going to take the vaccines.
    Did he abandon a religion you were promoting and this got you pissed?
    You owe us an explanation :)

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  • From jdeluise@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Wed Sep 27 20:07:06 2023
    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> writes:

    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:


    Oh wow, what did TT do to get you this pissed? Man, he hasn't even
    posted 5% of what you sell here everyday. I don't remember him
    saying he was covid expert, it was you promoting covid measures and
    vaccines like if they were guaranteed entry to heaven. All he said
    that he was going to take the vaccines. Did he abandon a religion
    you were promoting and this got you pissed? You owe us an
    explanation :)

    Actually TT was pretty vocal about it, he was very worried about long
    COVID IIRC.

    (of course I think it was really about punishing Djok) ;)

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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Wed Sep 27 21:54:58 2023
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 12:04:43 AM UTC-4, jdeluise wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> writes:


    Oh wow, what did TT do to get you this pissed? Man, he hasn't even
    posted 5% of what you sell here everyday. I don't remember him saying
    he was covid expert, it was you promoting covid measures and vaccines
    like if they were guaranteed entry to heaven. All he said that he was going to take the vaccines. Did he abandon a religion you were
    promoting and this got you pissed? You owe us an explanation :)
    Actually TT was pretty vocal about it, he was very worried about long
    COVID IIRC.

    Then what? He didn't change his mind about it, did he?
    And if he did, what is pissing off pelle?

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Thu Sep 28 08:06:20 2023
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    Then what? He didn't change his mind about it, did he?And if he did, what is pissing off pelle?


    TT is not ecstatic over brown people taking over Finland. Recently.

    Pelle is fuming over that.


    The "crime" or "illegal residents" thing is just a talking point. TT knows it's crap, and so does Pelle.

    They both understand each other.

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Thu Sep 28 08:03:06 2023
    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    Don't worry, they're going to solve this crime problem for you through pervasive, intrusive surveillance and AI powered drones and robotic ssoon.



    Will you then go back and leave Alaska?

    I mean you've run away from diversity and Jewish organized cities and societies.

    So once order to cities is restored, you're going back right?




    My guess is, as long as Jews run West, AI and surveillance stuff will never be put to use in good way like it's in China e.g. for the benefit of the community.

    At least they have safety there. Privacy is not their concern I feel, but and least they get safety.

    You?

    You have neither. No privacy and no safety.




    Jews want unsafe streets. Everywhere.

    They did it in America, and as TT noted, it's happening in Scandinavian societies too.



    When streets are unsafe, it creates a very special atmosphere and subconscious feeling among the people, deep unrest, people can and will argue over many things, and races and groups go after each other, and Jews can dominate.



    If you think this is absurd, tell me why are your streets not safe?

    I mean, don't tell me the most powerful nation in history of the world has to have unsafe streetsm?

    You can put man on the moon, destroy the planet (in theory) but you can't have safe streets?




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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 27 23:52:41 2023
    On Wednesday, 27 September 2023 at 22:03:06 UTC+1, TT wrote:
    jdeluise kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.42:
    TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:

    jdeluise kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.12:
    TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:

    Very satisfying video

    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20

    Next time bring more police with batons & tasers.
    Wow, you've really taken a hard right turn lately.

    Criminal acts shouldn't have consequences?

    Sure they should, but what's the Finnish connection? It seems like
    you're just reciting right-wing talking points lately. These are the biggest problems in the world according to them, and apparently also to
    a Finn who doesn't deal with these problems regularly.
    There is some small scale stealing in Finland too, in areas with immigrants.

    My reaction comes from seeing quite a few videos from USA in which
    mostly black people go to store and take bags of stuff without anybody
    doing anything about it. It's quite puzzling manifestation of failed
    society.

    Meanwhile coloured youth street gangs have become the norm in Helsinki. They're stealing your clothes and taking even shoes, targeting other
    young people. There are also a lot videos where coloured youths beats up
    a white Finnish kid, always a group against one. They humiliate victim
    in various ways, beat him/her up and film it. Meanwhile official Finland talked all summer about nonexistent racism towards coloured here, couple politicians had used the n-word or such in their writing over a decade
    ago. The outrage.

    There's on average a bomb/grenade exploding every other day in Sweden...

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/31/bomb-experts-called-in-after-swedish-cities-see-four-explosions-in-just-over-an-hour

    Something has gone terribly wrong.

    it's called unchecked mass immigration, things jdeluise and Pelle love as it helps their evil globalism and leftist dumbworld government agenda.

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Wed Sep 27 23:56:25 2023
    On Wednesday, 27 September 2023 at 21:42:52 UTC+1, jdeluise wrote:
    TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:

    jdeluise kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.12:
    TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:

    Very satisfying video

    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20

    Next time bring more police with batons & tasers.
    Wow, you've really taken a hard right turn lately.

    Criminal acts shouldn't have consequences?
    Sure they should, but what's the Finnish connection? It seems like
    you're just reciting right-wing talking points lately. These are the
    biggest problems in the world according to them, and apparently also to
    a Finn who doesn't deal with these problems regularly.

    oh no TT now you have offended jdeluise's left-wing politics! it cos he holds dumb leftism above everything else, same as Pelle.

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Wed Sep 27 23:54:39 2023
    On Wednesday, 27 September 2023 at 21:57:08 UTC+1, jdeluise wrote:
    *skriptis <skri...@post.t-com.hr> writes:

    jdeluise <jdel...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:> jdeluise kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.12:>>
    TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:>> >>> Very satisfying video>>>>>> https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20>>>>>> Next
    time bring more police with batons & tasers.>> Wow, you've really
    taken a hard right turn lately.>> Criminal acts shouldn't have consequences?Sure they should, but what's the Finnish connection? It
    seems likeyou're just reciting right-wing talking points lately.
    These are thebiggest problems in the world according to them, and apparently also toa Finn who doesn't deal with these problems
    regularly.


    You tell us then what are the biggest problems in the world?

    Is it antisemitism and climate change?

    Hahahaha
    Certainly not a property crime wave in a distant, foreign city...

    it's happening everywhere and will get worse and worse, look at how George Floyd was just some random incident in country/society which is totally different to England where our police don't even have guns, yet the Marxist BLM morons rioted here too.

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Wed Sep 27 23:58:01 2023
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 04:49:33 UTC+1, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 4:12:36 PM UTC-4, jdeluise wrote:
    TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:

    Very satisfying video

    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20

    Next time bring more police with batons & tasers.
    Wow, you've really taken a hard right turn lately.
    Is it not the right turn?

    according to jdeluise "left is good" and "right is tewible".

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 00:09:58 2023
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 07:06:20 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    Then what? He didn't change his mind about it, did he?And if he did, what is pissing off pelle?


    TT is not ecstatic over brown people taking over Finland. Recently.

    Pelle is fuming over that.


    The "crime" or "illegal residents" thing is just a talking point. TT knows it's crap, and so does Pelle.

    They both understand each other.

    angry Pelle won't ever say this though, instead she'll run away as always!

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Thu Sep 28 00:35:19 2023
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 05:55:00 UTC+1, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 12:04:43 AM UTC-4, jdeluise wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> writes:


    Oh wow, what did TT do to get you this pissed? Man, he hasn't even posted 5% of what you sell here everyday. I don't remember him saying
    he was covid expert, it was you promoting covid measures and vaccines like if they were guaranteed entry to heaven. All he said that he was going to take the vaccines. Did he abandon a religion you were
    promoting and this got you pissed? You owe us an explanation :)
    Actually TT was pretty vocal about it, he was very worried about long COVID IIRC.
    Then what? He didn't change his mind about it, did he?
    And if he did, what is pissing off pelle?

    it cos Pelle's full scale Kalergi plan is being revealed to more and more people! Hey Sawfish what do you think of this?

    The man of the future will be of mixed race. Today's races and classes will gradually disappear owing to the vanishing of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of
    individuals.
    Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi

    Instead of destroying European Jewry, Europe, against its own will, refined and educated this people into a future leader-nation through this artificial selection process. No wonder that this people, that escaped Ghetto-Prison, developed into a spiritual
    nobility of Europe. Therefore a gracious Providence provided Europe with a new race of nobility by the Grace of Spirit. This happened at the moment when Europe's feudal aristocracy became dilapidated, and thanks to Jewish emancipation.
    Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi

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  • From jdeluise@21:1/5 to skriptis@post.t-com.hr on Wed Sep 27 23:59:15 2023
    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:

    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    Then what? He didn't change his mind about it, did he?And if he did,
    what is pissing off pelle?


    TT is not ecstatic over brown people taking over Finland. Recently.

    TT is disgruntled lately because the stonk market is down (and bitcoin
    isn't).

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 13:13:00 2023
    jdeluise kirjoitti 28.9.2023 klo 10.59:
    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:

    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    Then what? He didn't change his mind about it, did he?And if he did,
    what is pissing off pelle?


    TT is not ecstatic over brown people taking over Finland. Recently.

    TT is disgruntled lately because the stonk market is down (and bitcoin isn't).

    Seems that Pelle is the disgruntled one. I have done great wrong for not agreeing with the woke train. Such a petty character.

    As for stonk market... it's going pretty much the way I have expected.
    And it can imo drop 20-60% more once US realizes you're in recession.
    Bitcoin maybe 80-90%.

    Although it could rise too in short term when US earnings come around.
    Have watched some CNBC and their optimism is ridiculous, nearly
    criminal. Soon when the earnings season comes maybe stocks rise despite
    of the poor results because they "beat expectations" which are always
    set too low. All positive results while the company revenues drop...
    "Soft landing" my ass.

    Just drip fed an hour ago a 3k to Finnish stocks, which are going down
    down down. But the question is how much...

    What hasn't gone according to expectations is my healthcare stocks,
    they're still up and sold some with profit but it seems people are more interested in buying tech which may crash down big time in next 6 months
    or so than defensive stocks. Pegs the question whether it's good to have defensive stocks at all if what they do going into recession is just
    drop less.

    Also bond etfs. Those damn bonds.

    But be forwarned. Crypto could drop big time during recession. I don't
    see much potential for upside while the potential for downside is pretty
    much unlimited. Maybe better change to cash? One would also expect that
    paying student loans would hit hardest at crypto?

    Average drop in stock market is 25% during a recession. If there comes
    and event such as 2008 financial crisis stocks could drop 50%.

    US has never avoided recession when rates rise this fast & the yield
    curve is inverted. "This time it's different"?

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 13:32:18 2023
    PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 28.9.2023 klo 7.00:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 4:59:50 PM UTC-4, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 27.9.2023 23.12, jdeluise wrote:
    TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:

    Very satisfying video

    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20

    Next time bring more police with batons & tasers.

    Wow, you've really taken a hard right turn lately.
    Tiny is a former 24/7 Nadal fan looking for content into his life. He
    grew tired of being a Ukraine/geopolitics expert after growing tired of
    being a covid expert. Now it's time for something else.

    After getting booted from Mommy's basement to the communal rentals,
    after counting the PoC next door, and after counting and overstating
    (what else) the numbers of brown people in the subway, our Tiny found
    his calling. Identity politics! Gays, trans, brown people, the 20
    gypsies in Finland, and ... WOKIES! No credentials, no cv needed. You
    just need to FEEL stuffs. Deeply. Experience in "statistics" amounting
    to nonsense is handy.

    "Imma man with a purpose!"

    --
    "And off they went, from here to there,
    The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
    -- Traditional
    Oh wow, what did TT do to get you this pissed?

    Good question.

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 09:16:01 2023
    On 9/27/23 11:03 PM, *skriptis wrote:
    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    Don't worry, they're going to solve this crime problem for you through pervasive, intrusive surveillance and AI powered drones and robotic ssoon.


    Will you then go back and leave Alaska?

    I mean you've run away from diversity and Jewish organized cities and societies.

    So once order to cities is restored, you're going back right?




    My guess is, as long as Jews run West, AI and surveillance stuff will never be put to use in good way like it's in China e.g. for the benefit of the community.

    At least they have safety there. Privacy is not their concern I feel, but and least they get safety.

    You?

    You have neither. No privacy and no safety.




    Jews want unsafe streets. Everywhere.

    They did it in America, and as TT noted, it's happening in Scandinavian societies too.



    When streets are unsafe, it creates a very special atmosphere and subconscious feeling among the people, deep unrest, people can and will argue over many things, and races and groups go after each other, and Jews can dominate.



    If you think this is absurd, tell me why are your streets not safe?

    I mean, don't tell me the most powerful nation in history of the world has to have unsafe streetsm?

    You can put man on the moon, destroy the planet (in theory) but you can't have safe streets?




    Here's a question for you, skript. It's based on a personal observation,
    and untested.

    I have noted that China, as a nation, seems completely obvious to any
    Jewish concerns or influences. Here in the US, on an individual scale, 
    I've witnessed people of Chinese descent, and those who are Chinese
    nationals, being totally unimpressed with Jewish culture and influences.

    If true, what are the main reasons for this? I have some ideas, but
    would like to hear yours.

    --
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Confidence: the food of the wise man and the liquor of the fool."

    --Sawfish ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 09:21:15 2023
    On 9/27/23 11:06 PM, *skriptis wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    Then what? He didn't change his mind about it, did he?And if he did, what is pissing off pelle?

    TT is not ecstatic over brown people taking over Finland. Recently.

    Pelle is fuming over that.

    Pelle is a professional contrarian. If you purposely support a position
    that he, himself, has just supported, he'll still attack you.

    It's as simple as that.



    The "crime" or "illegal residents" thing is just a talking point. TT knows it's crap, and so does Pelle.

    They both understand each other.
    Yes. It's just sparring out back with the boys, after a few beers.


    --
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    "I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my Grandpa, not screaming in terror like the passengers in his car."

    --Sawfish ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 09:33:57 2023
    On 9/28/23 3:13 AM, TT wrote:
    jdeluise kirjoitti 28.9.2023 klo 10.59:
    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:

    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    Then what? He didn't change his mind about it, did he?And if he did,
    what is pissing off pelle?


    TT is not ecstatic over brown people taking over Finland. Recently.

    TT is disgruntled lately because the stonk market is down (and bitcoin
    isn't).

    Seems that Pelle is the disgruntled one. I have done great wrong for
    not agreeing with the woke train.
    Agreeing would change nothing, I assure you.
    Such a petty character.

    As for stonk market... it's going pretty much the way I have expected.
    And it can imo drop 20-60% more once US realizes you're in recession.
    Bitcoin maybe 80-90%.

    Although it could rise too in short term when US earnings come around.
    Have watched some CNBC and their optimism is ridiculous, nearly
    criminal. Soon when the earnings season comes maybe stocks rise
    despite of the poor results because they "beat expectations" which are
    always set too low. All positive results while the company revenues
    drop...
    "Soft landing" my ass.

    This is something you probably already know, but...

    Since maybe 2010 the prime interest rate targets have been historically
    low. Therefore, any institutional segment of investment houses, and
    large numbers of individual investors seeking relative security were
    *driven* into equities since there was virtually no return anywhere else,

    As the rates have risen, these same classes of investment have migrated
    from equities back toward bonds, CDs and the like.

    I can't speak for other national economies.


    Just drip fed an hour ago a 3k to Finnish stocks, which are going down
    down down. But the question is how much...

    What hasn't gone according to expectations is my healthcare stocks,
    they're still up and sold some with profit

    Let me ask you: do you see this as a result of two things that I see
    here in the US?

    1) An increasingly elder population, requiring more, and frequent care; and

    2) Increased public spending on healthcare programs.

    but it seems people are more interested in buying tech which may crash
    down big time in next 6 months or so than defensive stocks. Pegs the
    question whether it's good to have defensive stocks at all if what
    they do going into recession is just drop less.

    Also bond etfs. Those damn bonds.
    We're at a transition point where older long-term bonds yields are insufficient, and their resale value is nil. These will be replaced with
    new issues at higher rates, which ought to do OK over the longer term.

    But be forwarned. Crypto could drop big time during recession. I don't
    see much potential for upside while the potential for downside is
    pretty much unlimited. Maybe better change to cash? One would also
    expect that paying student loans would hit hardest at crypto?
    I hadn't thought of that. What is the causal connection that you see.

    Average drop in stock market is 25% during a recession. If there comes
    and event such as 2008 financial crisis stocks could drop 50%.

    US has never avoided recession when rates rise this fast & the yield
    curve is inverted. "This time it's different"?
    I don't do much direct investing of this sort, but all of this post was
    very interesting. Food for thought.


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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=c3=b6s?=@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Thu Sep 28 19:39:36 2023
    On 28.9.2023 7.00, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 4:59:50 PM UTC-4, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 27.9.2023 23.12, jdeluise wrote:
    TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:

    Very satisfying video

    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20

    Next time bring more police with batons & tasers.

    Wow, you've really taken a hard right turn lately.
    Tiny is a former 24/7 Nadal fan looking for content into his life. He
    grew tired of being a Ukraine/geopolitics expert after growing tired of
    being a covid expert. Now it's time for something else.

    After getting booted from Mommy's basement to the communal rentals,
    after counting the PoC next door, and after counting and overstating
    (what else) the numbers of brown people in the subway, our Tiny found
    his calling. Identity politics! Gays, trans, brown people, the 20
    gypsies in Finland, and ... WOKIES! No credentials, no cv needed. You
    just need to FEEL stuffs. Deeply. Experience in "statistics" amounting
    to nonsense is handy.

    "Imma man with a purpose!"

    --
    "And off they went, from here to there,
    The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
    -- Traditional
    Oh wow, what did TT do to get you this pissed?

    I'm interested in what makes Tiny tiny. Not in Tiny himself. Judging by
    Tiny's reactions, I'm on the right track.

    Man, he hasn't even posted 5% of what you sell here everyday.
    I don't remember him saying he was covid expert, it was you promoting covid measures and vaccines like if they were guaranteed entry to heaven.

    Nah. If you just read MSM at the time, you knew almost in real time how
    the vaxxes performed. There were no mysteries. There were people that
    advocated China style lockdowns to "stomp" the bug late in the game though.

    Much of the debates really centered around ideologically motivated false
    claims about the vaxxes/pandemic. You did your share. Opposing those
    means opposing what is daft, nothing more.

    --
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    The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
    -- Traditional

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Thu Sep 28 09:40:11 2023
    On 9/28/23 12:35 AM, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 05:55:00 UTC+1, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 12:04:43 AM UTC-4, jdeluise wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> writes:


    Oh wow, what did TT do to get you this pissed? Man, he hasn't even
    posted 5% of what you sell here everyday. I don't remember him saying
    he was covid expert, it was you promoting covid measures and vaccines
    like if they were guaranteed entry to heaven. All he said that he was
    going to take the vaccines. Did he abandon a religion you were
    promoting and this got you pissed? You owe us an explanation :)
    Actually TT was pretty vocal about it, he was very worried about long
    COVID IIRC.
    Then what? He didn't change his mind about it, did he?
    And if he did, what is pissing off pelle?
    it cos Pelle's full scale Kalergi plan is being revealed to more and more people! Hey Sawfish what do you think of this?

    The man of the future will be of mixed race. Today's races and classes will gradually disappear owing to the vanishing of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of
    individuals.
    Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi
    This mixing of races is very likely, simply due to increased
    cosmopolitan trends. It'll take a very, very long time to reach what
    he's saying, and people will then be arguing over other things instead
    of race. It'll be just as bad.

    Instead of destroying European Jewry, Europe, against its own will, refined and educated this people into a future leader-nation through this artificial selection process.
    Specifically, what artificial selection process?
    No wonder that this people, that escaped Ghetto-Prison, developed into a spiritual nobility of Europe. Therefore a gracious Providence provided Europe with a new race of nobility by the Grace of Spirit. This happened at the moment when Europe's
    feudal aristocracy became dilapidated, and thanks to Jewish emancipation.
    Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi
    Here, he sounds batshit crazy.


    --
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    --Charles Bukowski ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=c3=b6s?=@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 19:47:26 2023
    On 28.9.2023 0.58, TT wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.59:
    On 27.9.2023 23.12, jdeluise wrote:
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

    Very satisfying video

    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20

    Next time bring more police with batons & tasers.

    Wow, you've really taken a hard right turn lately.

    Tiny is a former 24/7 Nadal fan looking for content into his life. He
    grew tired of being a Ukraine/geopolitics expert after growing tired
    of being a covid expert. Now it's time for something else.

    After getting booted from Mommy's basement to the communal rentals,
    after counting the PoC next door, and after counting and overstating
    (what else) the numbers of brown people in the subway, our Tiny found
    his calling. Identity politics! Gays, trans, brown people, the 20
    gypsies in Finland, and ... WOKIES! No credentials, no cv needed. You
    just need to FEEL stuffs. Deeply. Experience in "statistics" amounting
    to nonsense is handy.

    "Imma man with a purpose!"


    You really have some unhealthy obsession & attitude problems towards
    me...

    Oh, no! I can feel it coming ... noooo ... OK, here goes:

    Boo Hoo Hoo!

    Rule #1: trolls don't cry.

    --
    "And off they went, from here to there,
    The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
    -- Traditional

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Thu Sep 28 09:42:46 2023
    On 9/27/23 11:54 PM, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Wednesday, 27 September 2023 at 21:57:08 UTC+1, jdeluise wrote:
    *skriptis <skri...@post.t-com.hr> writes:

    jdeluise <jdel...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:> jdeluise kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.12:>>
    TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:>> >>> Very satisfying video>>>>>>
    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20>>>>>> Next
    time bring more police with batons & tasers.>> Wow, you've really
    taken a hard right turn lately.>> Criminal acts shouldn't have
    consequences?Sure they should, but what's the Finnish connection? It
    seems likeyou're just reciting right-wing talking points lately.
    These are thebiggest problems in the world according to them, and
    apparently also toa Finn who doesn't deal with these problems
    regularly.


    You tell us then what are the biggest problems in the world?

    Is it antisemitism and climate change?

    Hahahaha
    Certainly not a property crime wave in a distant, foreign city...
    it's happening everywhere and will get worse and worse, look at how George Floyd was just some random incident in country/society which is totally different to England where our police don't even have guns, yet the Marxist BLM morons rioted here too.

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/26/business/target-retail-theft-store-closures/index.html

    This was a real big deal in PDX because the three were in high profile locations.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=c3=b6s?=@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 19:46:55 2023
    On 28.9.2023 0.03, TT wrote:
    jdeluise kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.42:
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

    jdeluise kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.12:
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

    Very satisfying video

    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20

    Next time bring more police with batons & tasers.
    Wow, you've really taken a hard right turn lately.

    Criminal acts shouldn't have consequences?

    Sure they should, but what's the Finnish connection?  It seems like
    you're just reciting right-wing talking points lately.  These are the
    biggest problems in the world according to them, and apparently also to
    a Finn who doesn't deal with these problems regularly.

    There is some small scale stealing in Finland too, in areas with
    immigrants.

    It was painfully obvious what the "parallel" would be. If you liken the
    two in any way, you've lost all sense of proportion.

    It's funny how you chumps have to post things happening in the US or
    Sweden to prove how bad it is or is going to be in Finland.

    *Rolls eyes*

    My reaction comes from seeing quite a few videos from USA in which
    mostly black people go to store and take bags of stuff without anybody
    doing anything about it. It's quite puzzling manifestation of failed
    society.

    Meanwhile coloured youth street gangs have become the norm in Helsinki.

    Every gathering of 5 is a "street gang" these days. There is an increase
    in juvenile street "crime", meaning the former something like 10
    robberies/year is now something like 15 for the past one year. Of course
    the folks from PerSu fail to mention that the longer term trend is
    declining. They sure are not the "norm" anywhere. Can't say for sure
    what kind of a shthole you reside in, though.

    They're stealing your clothes and taking even shoes, targeting other
    young people. There are also a lot videos where coloured youths beats up
    a white Finnish kid, always a group against one.

    Poor paleface. I bet this is an epidemic.

    They humiliate victim
    in various ways, beat him/her up and film it. Meanwhile official Finland talked all summer about nonexistent racism towards coloured here, couple politicians had used the n-word or such in their writing over a decade
    ago. The outrage.

    Awww. You're still sore for the cut lady from the PerSu gutter.

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    The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Thu Sep 28 18:48:16 2023
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    Here's a question for you, skript. It's based on a personal observation, and untested.I have noted that China, as a nation, seems completely obvious to any Jewish concerns or influences. Here in the US, on an individual scale, I've witnessed people of
    Chinese descent, and those who are Chinese nationals, being totally unimpressed with Jewish culture and influences.If true, what are the main reasons for this? I have some ideas, but would like to hear yours.



    I guess part of it is their race? They care about stuff they care, you can't teach them easily new stuff?

    ;)


    Second part is of course that there's no indoctrination and propaganda in China, or even if they're born in America, it's not something that resonates with them, it's clear that whites are the targeted group.

    You.


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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to pelle@svans.los on Thu Sep 28 12:53:13 2023
    Pelle Svansls <pelle@svans.los> Wrote in message:r
    On 28.9.2023 7.00, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 4:59:50PM UTC-4, Pelle Svansls wrote:>> On 27.9.2023 23.12, jdeluise wrote:>>> TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:>>>>>>> Very satisfying video>>>>>>>> https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/
    1706843336743542906?s=20>>>>>>>> Next time bring more police with batons & tasers.>>>>>> Wow, you've really taken a hard right turn lately.>> Tiny is a former 24/7 Nadal fan looking for content into his life. He>> grew tired of being a Ukraine/
    geopolitics expert after growing tired of>> being a covid expert. Now it's time for something else.>>>> After getting booted from Mommy's basement to the communal rentals,>> after counting the PoC next door, and after counting and overstating>> (what
    else) the numbers of brown people in the subway, our Tiny found>> his calling. Identity politics! Gays, trans, brown people, the 20>> gypsies in Finland, and ... WOKIES! No credentials, no cv needed. You>> just need to FEEL stuffs. Deeply. Experience in "
    statistics" amounting>> to nonsense is handy.>>>> "Imma man with a purpose!">>>> -- >> "And off they went, from here to there,>> The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair">> -- Traditional> Oh wow, what did TT do to get you this pissed?I'm interested in
    what makes Tiny tiny. Not in Tiny himself. Judging by Tiny's reactions, I'm on the right track.> Man, he hasn't even posted 5% of what you sell here everyday.> I don't remember him saying he was covid expert, it was you promoting covid measures and
    vaccines like if they were guaranteed entry to heaven. Nah. If you just read MSM at the time, you knew almost in real time how the vaxxes performed. There were no mysteries. There were people that advocated China style lockdowns to "stomp" the bug late
    in the game though.Much of the debates really centered around ideologically motivated false claims about the vaxxes/pandemic. You did your share. Opposing those means opposing what is daft, nothing more.-- "And off they went, from here to there,The bear,
    the bear, and the maiden fair"-- Traditional

    I think you were hanging on by thin hair, and apparently you have lost it completely.
    What you have been building for years got the ground pulled from underneath it and this left you mentally despaired. Take a break, get some help and come back.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=c3=b6s?=@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 20:01:29 2023
    On 28.9.2023 9.06, *skriptis wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    Then what? He didn't change his mind about it, did he?And if he did, what is pissing off pelle?


    TT is not ecstatic over brown people taking over Finland. Recently.

    Pelle is fuming over that.


    The "crime" or "illegal residents" thing is just a talking point. TT knows it's crap, and so does Pelle.

    They both understand each other.

    I have no idea what you're talking about. I'll gladly leave it at that too.

    --
    "And off they went, from here to there,
    The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
    -- Traditional

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to pelle@svans.los on Thu Sep 28 19:19:22 2023
    Pelle Svanslös <pelle@svans.los> Wrote in message:r
    On 28.9.2023 19.53, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Pelle Svanslös <pelle@svans.los> Wrote in message:r>> On 28.9.2023 7.00, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 4:59:50PM UTC-4, Pelle Svanslös wrote:>> On 27.9.2023 23.12, jdeluise wrote:>>>
    TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:>>>>>>> Very satisfying video>>>>>>>> https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20>>>>>>>> Next time bring more police with batons & tasers.>>>>>> Wow, you've really taken a hard right turn lately.>> Tiny is a
    former 24/7 Nadal fan looking for content into his life. He>> grew tired of being a Ukraine/geopolitics expert after growing tired of>> being a covid expert. Now it's time for something else.>>>> After getting booted from Mommy's basement to the communal
    rentals,>> after counting the PoC next door, and after counting and overstating>> (what else) the numbers of brown people in the subway, our Tiny found>> his calling. Identity politics! Gays, trans, brown people, the 20>> gypsies in Finland, and ...
    WOKIES! No credentials, no cv needed. You>> just need to FEEL stuffs. Deeply. Experience in "statistics" amounting>> to nonsense is handy.>>>> "Imma man with a purpose!">>>> -- >> "And off they went, from here to there,>> The bear, the bear, and the
    maiden fair">> -- Traditional> Oh wow, what did TT do to get you this pissed?I'm interested in what makes Tiny tiny. Not in Tiny himself. Judging by Tiny's reactions, I'm on the right track.> Man, he hasn't even posted 5% of what you sell here everyday.
    I don't remember him saying he was covid expert, it was you promoting covid measures and vaccines like if they were guaranteed entry to heaven. Nah. If you just read MSM at the time, you knew almost in real time how the vaxxes performed. There were no
    mysteries. There were people that advocated China style lockdowns to "stomp" the bug late in the game though.Much of the debates really centered around ideologically motivated false claims about the vaxxes/pandemic. You did your share. Opposing those
    means opposing what is daft, nothing more.-- "And off they went, from here to there,The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"-- Traditional> > I think you were hanging on by thin hair, and apparently you have lost it completely.> What you have been
    building for years got the ground pulled from underneath it and this left you mentally despaired. Take a break, get some help and come back.You should be a bit more specific if you want to be taken at face value. I have no idea what I have been building
    for years. Neither do I sense anything having been pulled from under me. Maybe you can explain? Then again, maybe not.-- "And off they went, from here to there,The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"-- Traditional



    How times change don't they pelle?

    8 years ago, you had all of them on your side.
    Even 3 years ago you had solid backing.


    Now they're on our side.

    Ha ha ha ha

    --




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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 11:38:24 2023
    On 9/28/23 9:48 AM, *skriptis wrote:
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    Here's a question for you, skript. It's based on a personal observation, and untested.I have noted that China, as a nation, seems completely obvious to any Jewish concerns or influences. Here in the US, on an individual scale, I've witnessed people
    of Chinese descent, and those who are Chinese nationals, being totally unimpressed with Jewish culture and influences.If true, what are the main reasons for this? I have some ideas, but would like to hear yours.


    I guess part of it is their race? They care about stuff they care, you can't teach them easily new stuff?

    ;)


    Second part is of course that there's no indoctrination and propaganda in China, or even if they're born in America, it's not something that resonates with them, it's clear that whites are the targeted group.

    You.


    In a nutshell, and my own personal observation...

    There is no "general" guilt that I can see in Japan or China, such as we
    know it. They can *feel* guilt over some personal duty that they did not perform, but it comes intrinsic teachings of their culture/parents and
    it's based almost exclusively on working toward personal and community sustenance survival.

    So when someone suggests that they should feel just awful about what had happened to an other race/culture in the past, this simply does not
    connect: it has no actual meaning for them. I'd extend this to say that
    while they may feel sympathy towards someone of their own race/culture,
    unless directly connected by some kind of social relationship, it does
    not go much farther. They cannot see that they had any direct duty
    toward distant individuals.

    --
    "It is Pointless, and endless Trouble, to cast a stone at every dog
    that barks at you."

    --Sawfish

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 23:04:05 2023
    Sawfish kirjoitti 28.9.2023 klo 19.33:
    One would also expect that paying student loans would hit hardest at
    crypto?
    I hadn't thought of that. What is the causal connection that you see.

    One would think that crypto retail investors are generally younger and
    thus have some student loan debt left. Just my own assumption.

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 22:49:11 2023
    Sawfish kirjoitti 28.9.2023 klo 19.33:
    On 9/28/23 3:13 AM, TT wrote:
    jdeluise kirjoitti 28.9.2023 klo 10.59:
    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:

    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    Then what? He didn't change his mind about it, did he?And if he did, >>>>> what is pissing off pelle?


    TT is not ecstatic over brown people taking over Finland. Recently.

    TT is disgruntled lately because the stonk market is down (and bitcoin
    isn't).

    Seems that Pelle is the disgruntled one. I have done great wrong for
    not agreeing with the woke train.
    Agreeing would change nothing, I assure you.
    Such a petty character.

    As for stonk market... it's going pretty much the way I have expected.
    And it can imo drop 20-60% more once US realizes you're in recession.
    Bitcoin maybe 80-90%.

    Although it could rise too in short term when US earnings come around.
    Have watched some CNBC and their optimism is ridiculous, nearly
    criminal. Soon when the earnings season comes maybe stocks rise
    despite of the poor results because they "beat expectations" which are
    always set too low. All positive results while the company revenues
    drop...
    "Soft landing" my ass.

    This is something you probably already know, but...

    Since maybe 2010 the prime interest rate targets have been historically
    low. Therefore, any institutional segment of investment houses, and
    large numbers of individual investors seeking relative security were
    *driven* into equities since there was virtually no return anywhere else,

    As the rates have risen, these same classes of investment have migrated
    from equities back toward bonds, CDs and the like.

    I can't speak for other national economies.


    Yeah, it's not bad idea at the moment to park your money in US bank
    account as rates are something like 5%.

    Unfortunately not that high here, that's why I bought some global bond
    fund (half US bonds). Should be good in year or two if the inflation
    doesn't get completely out of hand. Relatively safe place to park the
    money, if you do it now when the rates are already pretty high.

    -

    This reminds me of LONG bonds... which I have not dared to buy since
    they are risky if inflation (hence yields) rises back.

    But I was thinking that if I were JDLUISE who is outright gambling with
    his money in crypto - I'd probably rather gamble it on long bonds which
    will give MASSIVE profits if and when long yields go down.


    Just drip fed an hour ago a 3k to Finnish stocks, which are going down
    down down. But the question is how much...

    What hasn't gone according to expectations is my healthcare stocks,
    they're still up and sold some with profit

    Let me ask you: do you see this as a result of two things that I see
    here in the US?

    1) An increasingly elder population, requiring more, and frequent care; and

    2) Increased public spending on healthcare programs.


    Those two are the exact reasons I bought healthcare stocks.

    But the problem is that they may be a bit overvalued at the moment. So I already sold some of it. I'm on two minds what to do with it. Maybe I'll
    just see what happens for the time being.

    but it seems people are more interested in buying tech which may crash
    down big time in next 6 months or so than defensive stocks. Pegs the
    question whether it's good to have defensive stocks at all if what
    they do going into recession is just drop less.

    Also bond etfs. Those damn bonds.
    We're at a transition point where older long-term bonds yields are insufficient, and their resale value is nil. These will be replaced with
    new issues at higher rates, which ought to do OK over the longer term.

    Exactly.

    And if something breaks with the economy and Fed is forced to quickly
    lower rates then the value of the bonds rises very quickly. Otherwise
    probably a nice steady income for few years.




    But be forwarned. Crypto could drop big time during recession. I don't
    see much potential for upside while the potential for downside is
    pretty much unlimited. Maybe better change to cash? One would also
    expect that paying student loans would hit hardest at crypto?
    I hadn't thought of that. What is the causal connection that you see.

    Average drop in stock market is 25% during a recession. If there comes
    and event such as 2008 financial crisis stocks could drop 50%.

    US has never avoided recession when rates rise this fast & the yield
    curve is inverted. "This time it's different"?
    I don't do much direct investing of this sort, but all of this post was
    very interesting. Food for thought.


    Just don't make any decisions based on a random guy's opinion at
    internet, even if he's the legendary oracle of RST. Then again I know
    you won't.

    Nobody knows what will happen with the economy, inflation, oil prices &
    stock market. I'm just saying that now is probably not the time to be
    very bold with one's investments and put it all on growth stocks/crypto etc

    Oh wait.... hahaha, I notice BTC is up 3%+ for the day...

    https://youtu.be/Bm9hySTVKtY?si=ZeAqccaRVolrzUvH

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 23:08:51 2023
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 28.9.2023 klo 19.46:
    It's funny how you chumps have to post things happening in the US or
    Sweden to prove how bad it is or is going to be in Finland.

    It's same everywhere with enough mass migration from Middle-East & Africa.

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 23:05:49 2023
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 28.9.2023 klo 19.47:
    On 28.9.2023 0.58, TT wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.59:
    On 27.9.2023 23.12, jdeluise wrote:
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

    Very satisfying video

    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20

    Next time bring more police with batons & tasers.

    Wow, you've really taken a hard right turn lately.

    Tiny is a former 24/7 Nadal fan looking for content into his life. He
    grew tired of being a Ukraine/geopolitics expert after growing tired
    of being a covid expert. Now it's time for something else.

    After getting booted from Mommy's basement to the communal rentals,
    after counting the PoC next door, and after counting and overstating
    (what else) the numbers of brown people in the subway, our Tiny found
    his calling. Identity politics! Gays, trans, brown people, the 20
    gypsies in Finland, and ... WOKIES! No credentials, no cv needed. You
    just need to FEEL stuffs. Deeply. Experience in "statistics"
    amounting to nonsense is handy.

    "Imma man with a purpose!"


    You really have some unhealthy obsession & attitude problems towards
    me...

    Oh, no! I can feel it coming ... noooo ... OK, here goes:

    Boo Hoo Hoo!

    Rule #1: trolls don't cry.


    So stop bitching, whining and crying then.

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 23:22:03 2023
    Sawfish kirjoitti 28.9.2023 klo 21.38:
    So when someone suggests that they should feel just awful about what had happened to an other race/culture in the past

    It makes zero sense to feel guilt about something what somebody else did hundreds of years ago. Referring to slavery here.

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 23:18:08 2023
    Sawfish kirjoitti 28.9.2023 klo 19.42:
    On 9/27/23 11:54 PM, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Wednesday, 27 September 2023 at 21:57:08 UTC+1, jdeluise wrote:
    *skriptis <skri...@post.t-com.hr> writes:

    jdeluise <jdel...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:> jdeluise kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.12:>>
    TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:>> >>> Very satisfying video>>>>>>
    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20>>>>>> Next
    time bring more police with batons & tasers.>> Wow, you've really
    taken a hard right turn lately.>> Criminal acts shouldn't have
    consequences?Sure they should, but what's the Finnish connection? It
    seems likeyou're just reciting right-wing talking points lately.
    These are thebiggest problems in the world according to them, and
    apparently also toa Finn who doesn't deal with these problems
    regularly.


    You tell us then what are the biggest problems in the world?

    Is it antisemitism and climate change?

    Hahahaha
    Certainly not a property crime wave in a distant, foreign city...
    it's happening everywhere and will get worse and worse, look at how
    George Floyd was just some random incident in country/society which is
    totally different to England where our police don't even have guns,
    yet the Marxist BLM morons rioted here too.

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/26/business/target-retail-theft-store-closures/index.html

    This was a real big deal in PDX because the three were in high profile locations.



    Ocaseio-Cortez told that shoplifters are just hungry. :(
    Even the shoplifters at Lululemon and Apple stores I guess.

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 13:24:09 2023
    On 9/28/23 1:04 PM, TT wrote:
    Sawfish kirjoitti 28.9.2023 klo 19.33:
    One would also expect that paying student loans would hit hardest at
    crypto?
    I hadn't thought of that. What is the causal connection that you see.

    One would think that crypto retail investors are generally younger and
    thus have some student loan debt left. Just my own assumption.

    OK, I see.

    At my stage of life, I would not come any closer to crypto than the
    length of my shuffleboard stick...

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=c3=b6s?=@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 23:32:37 2023
    On 28.9.2023 23.08, TT wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 28.9.2023 klo 19.46:
    It's funny how you chumps have to post things happening in the US or
    Sweden to prove how bad it is or is going to be in Finland.

    It's same everywhere with enough mass migration from Middle-East & Africa.

    I thought you said violent street gangs were a norm in Helsinki.

    *Rolls eyes*

    Whatta wanker.

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 23:36:25 2023
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 28.9.2023 klo 23.32:
    On 28.9.2023 23.08, TT wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 28.9.2023 klo 19.46:
    It's funny how you chumps have to post things happening in the US or
    Sweden to prove how bad it is or is going to be in Finland.

    It's same everywhere with enough mass migration from Middle-East &
    Africa.

    I thought you said violent street gangs were a norm in Helsinki.

    *Rolls eyes*

    Whatta wanker.


    Faggot please.

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 13:38:20 2023
    On 9/28/23 1:22 PM, TT wrote:
    Sawfish kirjoitti 28.9.2023 klo 21.38:
    So when someone suggests that they should feel just awful about what
    had happened to an other race/culture in the past

    It makes zero sense to feel guilt about something what somebody else
    did hundreds of years ago. Referring to slavery here.


    Here's a guiding rule: if someone has to *tell* you what to feel guilty
    about, it's probably an attempt at manipulation.

    I mean, I know better than anyone else what I truly should feel guilty
    about. No one else needs to be concerned.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=c3=b6s?=@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 23:41:49 2023
    On 28.9.2023 23.36, TT wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 28.9.2023 klo 23.32:
    On 28.9.2023 23.08, TT wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 28.9.2023 klo 19.46:
    It's funny how you chumps have to post things happening in the US or
    Sweden to prove how bad it is or is going to be in Finland.

    It's same everywhere with enough mass migration from Middle-East &
    Africa.

    I thought you said violent street gangs were a norm in Helsinki.

    *Rolls eyes*

    Whatta wanker.


    Faggot please.

    So what gang are you in? Bloods or Cwips?

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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to TT@dprk.kp on Thu Sep 28 16:46:32 2023
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r
    Sawfish kirjoitti 28.9.2023 klo 19.33:> On 9/28/23 3:13 AM, TT wrote:>> jdeluise kirjoitti 28.9.2023 klo 10.59:>>> *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:>>>>>>> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:>>>>> Then what? He didn't
    change his mind about it, did he?And if he did,>>>>> what is pissing off pelle?>>>>>>>>>>>> TT is not ecstatic over brown people taking over Finland. Recently.>>>>>> TT is disgruntled lately because the stonk market is down (and bitcoin>>> isn't).>>>>
    Seems that Pelle is the disgruntled one. I have done great wrong for >> not agreeing with the woke train.> Agreeing would change nothing, I assure you.>> Such a petty character.>>>> As for stonk market... it's going pretty much the way I have expected.>>
    And it can imo drop 20-60% more once US realizes you're in recession. >> Bitcoin maybe 80-90%.>>>> Although it could rise too in short term when US earnings come around. >> Have watched some CNBC and their optimism is ridiculous, nearly >> criminal. Soon
    when the earnings season comes maybe stocks rise >> despite of the poor results because they "beat expectations" which are >> always set too low. All positive results while the company revenues >> drop...>> "Soft landing" my ass.> > This is something you
    probably already know, but...> > Since maybe 2010 the prime interest rate targets have been historically > low. Therefore, any institutional segment of investment houses, and > large numbers of individual investors seeking relative security were > *
    driven* into equities since there was virtually no return anywhere else,> > As the rates have risen, these same classes of investment have migrated > from equities back toward bonds, CDs and the like.> > I can't speak for other national economies.> Yeah,
    it's not bad idea at the moment to park your money in US bank account as rates are something like 5%.Unfortunately not that high here, that's why I bought some global bond fund (half US bonds). Should be good in year or two if the inflation doesn't get
    completely out of hand. Relatively safe place to park the money, if you do it now when the rates are already pretty high.-This reminds me of LONG bonds... which I have not dared to buy since they are risky if inflation (hence yields) rises back.But I was
    thinking that if I were JDLUISE who is outright gambling with his money in crypto - I'd probably rather gamble it on long bonds which will give MASSIVE profits if and when long yields go down.>>>> Just drip fed an hour ago a 3k to Finnish stocks, which
    are going down >> down down. But the question is how much...>>>> What hasn't gone according to expectations is my healthcare stocks, >> they're still up and sold some with profit> > Let me ask you: do you see this as a result of two things that I see >
    here in the US?> > 1) An increasingly elder population, requiring more, and frequent care; and> > 2) Increased public spending on healthcare programs.> Those two are the exact reasons I bought healthcare stocks.But the problem is that they may be a bit
    overvalued at the moment. So I already sold some of it. I'm on two minds what to do with it. Maybe I'll just see what happens for the time being.>> but it seems people are more interested in buying tech which may crash >> down big time in next 6 months
    or so than defensive stocks. Pegs the >> question whether it's good to have defensive stocks at all if what >> they do going into recession is just drop less.>>>> Also bond etfs. Those damn bonds.> We're at a transition point where older long-term bonds
    yields are > insufficient, and their resale value is nil. These will be replaced with > new issues at higher rates, which ought to do OK over the longer term.Exactly.And if something breaks with the economy and Fed is forced to quickly lower rates then
    the value of the bonds rises very quickly. Otherwise probably a nice steady income for few years.>>>> But be forwarned. Crypto could drop big time during recession. I don't >> see much potential for upside while the potential for downside is >> pretty
    much unlimited. Maybe better change to cash? One would also >> expect that paying student loans would hit hardest at crypto?> I hadn't thought of that. What is the causal connection that you see.>>>> Average drop in stock market is 25% during a recession.
    If there comes >> and event such as 2008 financial crisis stocks could drop 50%.>>>> US has never avoided recession when rates rise this fast & the yield >> curve is inverted. "This time it's different"?> I don't do much direct investing of this sort,
    but all of this post was > very interesting. Food for thought.> Just don't make any decisions based on a random guy's opinion at internet, even if he's the legendary oracle of RST. Then again I know you won't.Nobody knows what will happen with the
    economy, inflation, oil prices & stock market. I'm just saying that now is probably not the time to be very bold with one's investments and put it all on growth stocks/crypto etcOh wait.... hahaha, I notice BTC is up 3%+ for the day...https://youtu.be/
    Bm9hySTVKtY?si=ZeAqccaRVolrzUvH

    I won't share much of my thoughts on this other than to admit that we can figure out many facts about the stock market and economy but in the end, the stock market doesn't follow any fundamentals.

    I could have tripled my money if I didn't believe that the stock market has been over the edge and overvalued for the last 15 years, but it's what it's.

    We have had the longest bull market ever, fueled by the feds when they kept zero interest rates and bought bad assets to lift banks for the last 15 years, and now we are encouraging banks to make bad decisions by printing money to rescue them.

    But right now and for the first time, I don't see a path for younger generation to build lives in USA no matter what. Renting or buying a house, buying cars, etc isn't something that is possible for most of youth now.

    Also, it's worse in most of the countries around the world with the highly inflated real states and assets, that made most of these younger generation depressed.

    What I can say is that things can't be sustained the way it's now, and something big has to happen to shake everything back to a set of conditions that will allow life to be livable and bearable for all future generations. I am somehow a little worried
    for myself but I am more worried for children.


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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=c3=b6s?=@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Thu Sep 28 23:47:58 2023
    On 28.9.2023 23.38, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/28/23 1:22 PM, TT wrote:
    Sawfish kirjoitti 28.9.2023 klo 21.38:
    So when someone suggests that they should feel just awful about what
    had happened to an other race/culture in the past

    It makes zero sense to feel guilt about something what somebody else
    did hundreds of years ago. Referring to slavery here.


    Here's a guiding rule: if someone has to *tell* you what to feel guilty about, it's probably an attempt at manipulation.

    I mean, I know better than anyone else what I truly should feel guilty
    about. No one else needs to be concerned.

    You definitely should feel guilt. Had you lived the, you would have been
    the Göbbels of slave traders.

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 29 00:17:05 2023
    PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 28.9.2023 klo 23.46:
    I won't share much of my thoughts on this other than to admit that we can figure out many facts about the stock market and economy but in the end, the stock market doesn't follow any fundamentals.

    I could have tripled my money if I didn't believe that the stock market has been over the edge and overvalued for the last 15 years, but it's what it's.

    Yes, stock market is often irrational. In long run it should follow fundamentals though. Seems to go in boom & bust cycles...

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Fri Sep 29 00:46:48 2023
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 17:40:15 UTC+1, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/28/23 12:35 AM, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 05:55:00 UTC+1, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 12:04:43 AM UTC-4, jdeluise wrote: >>> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> writes:


    Oh wow, what did TT do to get you this pissed? Man, he hasn't even
    posted 5% of what you sell here everyday. I don't remember him saying >>>> he was covid expert, it was you promoting covid measures and vaccines >>>> like if they were guaranteed entry to heaven. All he said that he was >>>> going to take the vaccines. Did he abandon a religion you were
    promoting and this got you pissed? You owe us an explanation :)
    Actually TT was pretty vocal about it, he was very worried about long >>> COVID IIRC.
    Then what? He didn't change his mind about it, did he?
    And if he did, what is pissing off pelle?
    it cos Pelle's full scale Kalergi plan is being revealed to more and more people! Hey Sawfish what do you think of this?

    The man of the future will be of mixed race. Today's races and classes will gradually disappear owing to the vanishing of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of
    individuals.
    Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi
    This mixing of races is very likely, simply due to increased
    cosmopolitan trends. It'll take a very, very long time to reach what
    he's saying, and people will then be arguing over other things instead
    of race. It'll be just as bad.

    Instead of destroying European Jewry, Europe, against its own will, refined and educated this people into a future leader-nation through this artificial selection process.
    Specifically, what artificial selection process?
    No wonder that this people, that escaped Ghetto-Prison, developed into a spiritual nobility of Europe. Therefore a gracious Providence provided Europe with a new race of nobility by the Grace of Spirit. This happened at the moment when Europe's
    feudal aristocracy became dilapidated, and thanks to Jewish emancipation.
    Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi
    Here, he sounds batshit crazy.

    it's a theme of these elite types though, despite having zero accountabiliy/legitimacy the scumbags think they always know best(much like Pelle/Kalergi) no matter how many times that is proven wrong, no matter what disasters the scumbags cause. They also
    see "the people" as annoying and should just be there to be controlled by them so they can make money - Soros and Bill Gates are current examples of this, along with the evil World Economic Forum which is basically subverting democracy by "infiltrating
    governments"(their words). David Rockefeller said it all in 1991 “We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of
    discretion for almost 40 years. … It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan...Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States...If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud
    of it.”

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 29 01:02:08 2023
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 17:48:16 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:
    Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    Here's a question for you, skript. It's based on a personal observation, and untested.I have noted that China, as a nation, seems completely obvious to any Jewish concerns or influences. Here in the US, on an individual scale, I've witnessed people
    of Chinese descent, and those who are Chinese nationals, being totally unimpressed with Jewish culture and influences.If true, what are the main reasons for this? I have some ideas, but would like to hear yours.



    I guess part of it is their race? They care about stuff they care, you can't teach them easily new stuff?

    ;)


    Second part is of course that there's no indoctrination and propaganda in China, or even if they're born in America, it's not something that resonates with them, it's clear that whites are the targeted group.

    is it cos of my theory that invented the other week that cos Jews are a minority but have such an influence in the West, they have shaped our laws to always back the minority, whereas rest of the world the laws back the majority (like in China)?
    interesting thing heard was that Louis B. Mayer, the Jewish guy who owned MGM was very conservative and used to ensure all films were of "wholesome content", but apparently this all changed after WW2, seems Hollywood went the compete opposite direction.

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to pelle@svans.los on Fri Sep 29 10:00:18 2023
    Pelle Svanslös <pelle@svans.los> Wrote in message:r
    On 28.9.2023 23.38, Sawfish wrote:> On 9/28/23 1:22 PM, TT wrote:>> Sawfish kirjoitti 28.9.2023 klo 21.38:>>> So when someone suggests that they should feel just awful about what >>> had happened to an other race/culture in the past>>>> It makes zero
    sense to feel guilt about something what somebody else >> did hundreds of years ago. Referring to slavery here.>>>>> Here's a guiding rule: if someone has to *tell* you what to feel guilty > about, it's probably an attempt at manipulation.> > I mean, I
    know better than anyone else what I truly should feel guilty > about. No one else needs to be concerned.You definitely should feel guilt. Had you lived the, you would have been the Göbbels of slave traders.-- "And off they went, from here to there,The
    bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"-- Traditional


    Slave trade comes second, after enslavement, no?

    Who did the first act, the actual enslavement?
    Oh that's right, Africans themselves. LOL




    Besides, why should we talk about this slave trade in 2023 and not some other?

    How about slavery under Ottomans that we actually experienced?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_Ottoman_Empire


    I don't give a shit about "black" slavery.







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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 29 00:55:57 2023
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 17:46:58 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 28.9.2023 0.03, TT wrote:
    jdeluise kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.42:
    TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:

    jdeluise kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.12:
    TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:

    Very satisfying video

    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20

    Next time bring more police with batons & tasers.
    Wow, you've really taken a hard right turn lately.

    Criminal acts shouldn't have consequences?

    Sure they should, but what's the Finnish connection? It seems like
    you're just reciting right-wing talking points lately. These are the
    biggest problems in the world according to them, and apparently also to >> a Finn who doesn't deal with these problems regularly.

    There is some small scale stealing in Finland too, in areas with immigrants.
    It was painfully obvious what the "parallel" would be. If you liken the
    two in any way, you've lost all sense of proportion.

    It's funny how you chumps have to post things happening in the US or
    Sweden to prove how bad it is or is going to be in Finland.

    cos it's just a matter of time until it's like that in Finland too, you dimvit. You got to remember how your woke dumbness has won Sweden rape capital of the world!

    *Rolls eyes*
    My reaction comes from seeing quite a few videos from USA in which
    mostly black people go to store and take bags of stuff without anybody doing anything about it. It's quite puzzling manifestation of failed society.

    Meanwhile coloured youth street gangs have become the norm in Helsinki.
    Every gathering of 5 is a "street gang" these days. There is an increase
    in juvenile street "crime", meaning the former something like 10 robberies/year is now something like 15 for the past one year. Of course
    the folks from PerSu fail to mention that the longer term trend is declining. They sure are not the "norm" anywhere. Can't say for sure
    what kind of a shthole you reside in, though.

    excuses excuses always excuses, you live in a very wealthy area so aren't affected by this. You're like jdeluise living in Alaska, chosen purposely far away from any immigrants and any crime caused by your dumb disastrous leftist social policies.

    They're stealing your clothes and taking even shoes, targeting other
    young people. There are also a lot videos where coloured youths beats up
    a white Finnish kid, always a group against one.
    Poor paleface. I bet this is an epidemic.

    oh them poor coloured youths they only did it cos they were on drugs! it was slavery wot did it

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Fri Sep 29 10:02:29 2023
    The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 17:40:15 UTC+1, Sawfish wrote:> On 9/28/23 12:35 AM, The Iceberg wrote: > > On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 05:55:00 UTC+1, PeteWasLucky wrote: > >> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 12:04:43 AM UTC-4, jdeluise
    wrote: > >>> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> writes: > >>> > >>> > >>>> Oh wow, what did TT do to get you this pissed? Man, he hasn't even > >>>> posted 5% of what you sell here everyday. I don't remember him saying > >>>> he was covid expert, it was
    you promoting covid measures and vaccines > >>>> like if they were guaranteed entry to heaven. All he said that he was > >>>> going to take the vaccines. Did he abandon a religion you were > >>>> promoting and this got you pissed? You owe us an
    explanation :) > >>> Actually TT was pretty vocal about it, he was very worried about long > >>> COVID IIRC. > >> Then what? He didn't change his mind about it, did he? > >> And if he did, what is pissing off pelle? > > it cos Pelle's full scale Kalergi
    plan is being revealed to more and more people! Hey Sawfish what do you think of this? > > > > The man of the future will be of mixed race. Today's races and classes will gradually disappear owing to the vanishing of space, time, and prejudice. The
    Eurasian-Negroid race of the future will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of individuals. > > Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi> This mixing of races is very likely, simply due to increased > cosmopolitan trends. It'll take a very, very
    long time to reach what > he's saying, and people will then be arguing over other things instead > of race. It'll be just as bad.> > > > Instead of destroying European Jewry, Europe, against its own will, refined and educated this people into a future
    leader-nation through this artificial selection process.> Specifically, what artificial selection process?> > No wonder that this people, that escaped Ghetto-Prison, developed into a spiritual nobility of Europe. Therefore a gracious Providence provided
    Europe with a new race of nobility by the Grace of Spirit. This happened at the moment when Europe's feudal aristocracy became dilapidated, and thanks to Jewish emancipation. > > Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi> Here, he sounds batshit crazy. it's a theme
    of these elite types though, despite having zero accountabiliy/legitimacy the scumbags think they always know best(much like Pelle/Kalergi) no matter how many times that is proven wrong, no matter what disasters the scumbags cause. They also see "the
    people" as annoying and should just be there to be controlled by them so they can make money - Soros and Bill Gates are current examples of this, along with the evil World Economic Forum which is basically subverting democracy by "infiltrating
    governments"(their words). David Rockefeller said it all in 1991 “We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of
    discretion for almost 40 years. … It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan...Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States...If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud
    of it.”



    Sick!
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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 29 01:04:28 2023
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 18:07:41 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 28.9.2023 19.53, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös <pe...@svans.los> Wrote in message:r
    On 28.9.2023 7.00, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 4:59:50 PM UTC-4, Pelle Svanslös wrote:>> On 27.9.2023 23.12, jdeluise wrote:>>> TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:>>>>>>> Very satisfying video>>>>>>>> https://x.com/EndWokeness/
    status/1706843336743542906?s=20>>>>>>>> Next time bring more police with batons & tasers.>>>>>> Wow, you've really taken a hard right turn lately.>> Tiny is a former 24/7 Nadal fan looking for content into his life. He>> grew tired of being a Ukraine/
    geopolitics expert after growing tired of>> being a covid expert. Now it's time for something else.>>>> After getting booted from Mommy's basement to the communal rentals,>> after counting the PoC next door, and after counting and overstating>> (what
    else) the numbers of brown people in the subway, our Tiny found>> his calling. Identity politics! Gays, trans, brown people, the 20>> gypsies in Finland, and ... WOKIES! No credentials, no cv needed. You>> just need to FEEL stuffs. Deeply. Experience in "
    statistics" amounting>> to nonsense is handy.>>>> "Imma man with a purpose!">>>> -- >> "And off they went, from here to there,>> The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair">> -- Traditional> Oh wow, what did TT do to get you this pissed?I'm interested in
    what makes Tiny tiny. Not in Tiny himself. Judging by Tiny's reactions, I'm on the right track.> Man, he hasn't even posted 5% of what you sell here everyday.> I don't remember him saying he was covid expert, it was you promoting covid measures and
    vaccines like if they were guaranteed entry to heaven. Nah. If you just read MSM at the time, you knew almost in real time how the vaxxes performed. There were no mysteries. There were people that advocated China style lockdowns to "stomp" the bug late
    in the game though.Much of the debates really centered around ideologically motivated false claims about the vaxxes/pandemic. You did your share. Opposing those means opposing what is daft, nothing more.-- "And off they went, from here to there,The bear,
    the bear, and the maiden fair"-- Traditional

    I think you were hanging on by thin hair, and apparently you have lost it completely.
    What you have been building for years got the ground pulled from underneath it and this left you mentally despaired. Take a break, get some help and come back.
    You should be a bit more specific if you want to be taken at face value.
    I have no idea what I have been building for years. Neither do I sense anything having been pulled from under me. Maybe you can explain? Then again, maybe not.

    when Sanna Marin LOST, your whole fake rug got pulled from underneath you, along with the myth about the Wuhan virus vaxes that you promoted so much and even that Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinfo doh!

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 29 01:05:37 2023
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 18:33:22 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 28.9.2023 20.19, *skriptis wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös <pe...@svans.los> Wrote in message:r
    On 28.9.2023 19.53, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Pelle Svanslös <pe...@svans.los> Wrote in message:r>> On 28.9.2023 7.00, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 4:59:50 PM UTC-4, Pelle Svanslös wrote:>> On 27.9.2023 23.12, jdeluise wrote:
    TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:>>>>>>> Very satisfying video>>>>>>>> https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20>>>>>>>> Next time bring more police with batons & tasers.>>>>>> Wow, you've really taken a hard right turn lately.>> Tiny is a
    former 24/7 Nadal fan looking for content into his life. He>> grew tired of being a Ukraine/geopolitics expert after growing tired of>> being a covid expert. Now it's time for something else.>>>> After getting booted from Mommy's basement to the communal
    rentals,>> after counting the PoC next door, and after counting and overstating>> (what else) the numbers of brown people in the subway, our Tiny found>> his calling. Identity politics! Gays, trans, brown people, the 20>> gypsies in Finland, and ...
    WOKIES! No credentials, no cv needed. You>> just need to FEEL stuffs. Deeply. Experience in "statistics" amounting>> to nonsense is handy.>>>> "Imma man with a purpose!">>>> -- >> "And off they went, from here to there,>> The bear, the bear, and the
    maiden fair">> -- Traditional> Oh wow, what did TT do to get you this pissed?I'm interested in what makes Tiny tiny. Not in Tiny himself. Judging by Tiny's reactions, I'm on the right track.> Man, he hasn't even posted 5% of what you sell here everyday.>
    I don't remember him saying he was covid expert, it was you promoting covid measures and vaccines like if they were guaranteed entry to heaven. Nah. If you just read MSM at the time, you knew almost in real time how the vaxxes performed. There were no
    mysteries. There were people that advocated China style lockdowns to "stomp" the bug late in the game though.Much of the debates really centered around ideologically motivated false claims about the vaxxes/pandemic. You did your share. Opposing those
    means opposing what is daft, nothing more.-- "And off they went, from here to there,The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"-- Traditional> > I think you were hanging on by thin hair, and apparently you have lost it completely.> What you have been
    building for years got the ground pulled from underneath it and this left you mentally despaired. Take a break, get some help and come back.You should be a bit more specific if you want to be taken at face value. I have no idea what I have been building
    for years. Neither do I sense anything having been pulled from under me. Maybe you can explain? Then again, maybe not.-- "And off they went, from here to there,The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"-- Traditional



    How times change don't they pelle?

    8 years ago, you had all of them on your side.
    Even 3 years ago you had solid backing.


    Now they're on our side.

    Ha ha ha ha
    I never know what you guys talk about. It's like talking to Kang &
    Kodos. I think I'll get a new pillow tomorrow anyway just to be on the
    safe side.

    definitely buy one from "MyPillow.com"!

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 29 01:19:59 2023
    On Friday, 29 September 2023 at 09:00:19 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös <pe...@svans.los> Wrote in message:r
    On 28.9.2023 23.38, Sawfish wrote:> On 9/28/23 1:22 PM, TT wrote:>> Sawfish kirjoitti 28.9.2023 klo 21.38:>>> So when someone suggests that they should feel just awful about what >>> had happened to an other race/culture in the past>>>> It makes zero
    sense to feel guilt about something what somebody else >> did hundreds of years ago. Referring to slavery here.>>>>> Here's a guiding rule: if someone has to *tell* you what to feel guilty > about, it's probably an attempt at manipulation.> > I mean, I
    know better than anyone else what I truly should feel guilty > about. No one else needs to be concerned.You definitely should feel guilt. Had you lived the, you would have been the Göbbels of slave traders.-- "And off they went, from here to there,The
    bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"-- Traditional


    Slave trade comes second, after enslavement, no?

    Who did the first act, the actual enslavement?
    Oh that's right, Africans themselves. LOL




    Besides, why should we talk about this slave trade in 2023 and not some other?

    How about slavery under Ottomans that we actually experienced?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_Ottoman_Empire


    I don't give a shit about "black" slavery.

    yes cos Pelle caused and helped run the Ottoman and Middle East slave trade which was far more brutal and went on for far longer than slave trade here, Pelle should be wracked with guilt over this!

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 29 12:47:38 2023
    The Iceberg kirjoitti 29.9.2023 klo 10.55:
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 17:46:58 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 28.9.2023 0.03, TT wrote:
    jdeluise kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.42:
    TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:

    jdeluise kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.12:
    TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:

    Very satisfying video

    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20

    Next time bring more police with batons & tasers.
    Wow, you've really taken a hard right turn lately.

    Criminal acts shouldn't have consequences?

    Sure they should, but what's the Finnish connection? It seems like
    you're just reciting right-wing talking points lately. These are the
    biggest problems in the world according to them, and apparently also to >>>> a Finn who doesn't deal with these problems regularly.

    There is some small scale stealing in Finland too, in areas with
    immigrants.
    It was painfully obvious what the "parallel" would be. If you liken the
    two in any way, you've lost all sense of proportion.

    It's funny how you chumps have to post things happening in the US or
    Sweden to prove how bad it is or is going to be in Finland.

    cos it's just a matter of time until it's like that in Finland too, you dimvit. You got to remember how your woke dumbness has won Sweden rape capital of the world!

    *Rolls eyes*
    My reaction comes from seeing quite a few videos from USA in which
    mostly black people go to store and take bags of stuff without anybody
    doing anything about it. It's quite puzzling manifestation of failed
    society.

    Meanwhile coloured youth street gangs have become the norm in Helsinki.
    Every gathering of 5 is a "street gang" these days. There is an increase
    in juvenile street "crime", meaning the former something like 10
    robberies/year is now something like 15 for the past one year. Of course
    the folks from PerSu fail to mention that the longer term trend is
    declining. They sure are not the "norm" anywhere. Can't say for sure
    what kind of a shthole you reside in, though.

    excuses excuses always excuses, you live in a very wealthy area so aren't affected by this. You're like jdeluise living in Alaska, chosen purposely far away from any immigrants and any crime caused by your dumb disastrous leftist social policies.


    You have to take into account that pelle is lying. He can't be trusted
    on these matters. He's apparently a habitual liar.

    "Serious youth crime has become more common - The numbers are
    statistically exceptional":
    https://www.hs.fi/kotimaa/art-2000009792258.html

    In Jan-Jun 2023:

    Aged under 21 robberies have increased 39%
    Robberies by underaged have increased 51%

    Under 21 violent crimes have increased 26% - (total 5000 crimes Jan-Jun)
    15-17 violent crimes have increased 38%
    Under 15 violent crimes increased 28%

    That's all first half of this year.

    In 2022 there were 10 000 robberies, violent crimes and homicides by
    under 21 - which was an increase of 23% compared to 2021.

    Pelle claims long term trend is in decline - utter rubbish as we can
    read in the article & see from the graphs.
    He also claims the numbers are around 15 cases per year. Right...

    Whatta wanker.

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  • From Scall5@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Fri Sep 29 09:29:03 2023
    On 9/28/2023 3:38 PM, Sawfish wrote:

    Here's a guiding rule: if someone has to *tell* you what to feel guilty about, it's probably an attempt at manipulation.

    Can I use this as an email signature? It appears to be spot on!
    --
    ---------------
    Scall5

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  • From jdeluise@21:1/5 to nospam@home.net on Fri Sep 29 07:11:38 2023
    Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:

    On 9/28/2023 3:38 PM, Sawfish wrote:

    Here's a guiding rule: if someone has to *tell* you what to feel
    guilty about, it's probably an attempt at manipulation.

    Can I use this as an email signature? It appears to be spot on!

    What, are you afraid he's going to sue you? He's just described "gaslighting"...

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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Fri Sep 29 09:00:59 2023
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 8:11:43 AM UTC-7, jdeluise wrote:
    Scall5 <nos...@home.net> writes:

    On 9/28/2023 3:38 PM, Sawfish wrote:

    Here's a guiding rule: if someone has to *tell* you what to feel
    guilty about, it's probably an attempt at manipulation.

    Can I use this as an email signature? It appears to be spot on!
    What, are you afraid he's going to sue you? He's just described "gaslighting"...

    "Gaslighting" is a word I've discovered in the last few years. A great, succinct description of the practice of attacking someone who's essentially busted you in a lie, so the busted person responds with "you are crazy". Comes from an old movie.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslight_(1940_film)

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=c3=b6s?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 29 19:09:41 2023
    On 29.9.2023 12.47, TT wrote:
    The Iceberg kirjoitti 29.9.2023 klo 10.55:
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 17:46:58 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 28.9.2023 0.03, TT wrote:
    jdeluise kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.42:
    TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:

    jdeluise kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.12:
    TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:

    Very satisfying video

    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20

    Next time bring more police with batons & tasers.
    Wow, you've really taken a hard right turn lately.

    Criminal acts shouldn't have consequences?

    Sure they should, but what's the Finnish connection?  It seems like >>>>> you're just reciting right-wing talking points lately.  These are the >>>>> biggest problems in the world according to them, and apparently
    also to
    a Finn who doesn't deal with these problems regularly.

    There is some small scale stealing in Finland too, in areas with
    immigrants.
    It was painfully obvious what the "parallel" would be. If you liken the
    two in any way, you've lost all sense of proportion.

    It's funny how you chumps have to post things happening in the US or
    Sweden to prove how bad it is or is going to be in Finland.

    cos it's just a matter of time until it's like that in Finland too,
    you dimvit. You got to remember how your woke dumbness has won Sweden
    rape capital of the world!

    *Rolls eyes*
    My reaction comes from seeing quite a few videos from USA in which
    mostly black people go to store and take bags of stuff without anybody >>>> doing anything about it. It's quite puzzling manifestation of failed
    society.

    Meanwhile coloured youth street gangs have become the norm in Helsinki. >>> Every gathering of 5 is a "street gang" these days. There is an increase >>> in juvenile street "crime", meaning the former something like 10
    robberies/year is now something like 15 for the past one year. Of course >>> the folks from PerSu fail to mention that the longer term trend is
    declining. They sure are not the "norm" anywhere. Can't say for sure
    what kind of a shthole you reside in, though.

    excuses excuses always excuses, you live in a very wealthy area so
    aren't affected by this. You're like jdeluise living in Alaska, chosen
    purposely far away from any immigrants and any crime caused by your
    dumb disastrous leftist social policies.


    You have to take into account that pelle is lying. He can't be trusted
    on these matters. He's apparently a habitual liar.

    Oh, no! Accusations! The fury! Settle down, Dreyfus. Everything I say is correct.

    Like I say, there is an increase in juvie crime. I give the correct
    percentage in the case of robberies/year. Even Tiny with the newfound
    calling should understand that the numbers are figurative. I guess not
    when the veins are bulging.

    Like I say, the increase is recent. The trend has been downwards. The
    increase is probably corona related. It can be seen in the US also, for example.

    https://www.riku.fi/nuorisorikollisuus-on-vahentynyt-pitkaan-mutta-viime-vuonna-vakavin-vakivaltarikollisuus-lisaantyi-poliisi-toistaiseksi-suhtautuisin-edellisvuoden-piikkiin-poikkeusolojen-seurauks/

    "Serious youth crime has become more common - The numbers are
    statistically exceptional":
    https://www.hs.fi/kotimaa/art-2000009792258.html

    Some of these classifications are highly suspect. The article does not
    mention that there was a change made in how juvie crime must be
    reported. That change has resulted in some increase in suspected crime.
    In general, crimes are reported more often than they have been in the past.

    The article somewhat vaguely says there "is a link" between juvie crime
    stats and "street gangs". This might be so or it might not be so.
    Stat.fi however says there is NO systematic evidence for it being so.
    Looks like copper fundraising under the covid umbrella. "Let's cash in
    on the tabloid rage". Why not.

    So. Once again the main points:
    a) despite what the wanker wants to wank, the looting of the topic line
    is light years away from anything happening in Finland.
    b) street gangs are not the "norm" anywhere in Finland. Despite what the tabloids say, street gangs don't account for the increase in these stats.
    c) the age old truth is: "If you want to dodge a knife in the back,
    avoid a Finnskie with a bottle". We just need to update it. 90% of juvie "crime" is committed by palefaces of which umpteen % is drug related.
    "If you want to dodge a blade in the back, avoid a wild-eyed pale
    Finnskie teeny ragamuffin".
    d) If you want to fix things, lay the law on these pale children of the
    night. That's where the low hanging fruit is. But I don't think you are interested in anything other that the usual wanking. "Gotta have
    something to do".

    Bingo.

    --
    "And off they went, from here to there,
    The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
    -- Traditional

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to bmoore on Fri Sep 29 09:12:32 2023
    On 9/29/23 9:00 AM, bmoore wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 8:11:43 AM UTC-7, jdeluise wrote:
    Scall5 <nos...@home.net> writes:

    On 9/28/2023 3:38 PM, Sawfish wrote:

    Here's a guiding rule: if someone has to *tell* you what to feel
    guilty about, it's probably an attempt at manipulation.
    Can I use this as an email signature? It appears to be spot on!
    What, are you afraid he's going to sue you? He's just described
    "gaslighting"...
    "Gaslighting" is a word I've discovered in the last few years. A great, succinct description of the practice of attacking someone who's essentially busted you in a lie, so the busted person responds with "you are crazy". Comes from an old movie.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslight_(1940_film)

    To be sure I actually understood the term, I watched the movie only 3
    weeks ago. It's so-so...Ingrid Bergman was very young and attractive.

    It's as you say: someone attempting to brow-beat you into disbelieving
    what you have actually seen/experienced, first hand.

    Clumsy as shit manipulation technique: it requires that you
    cooperate--give them the benefit of the doubt. To counter this nonsense,
    you simply kick them in the balls and go about your business.

    --
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Confidence: the food of the wise man and the liquor of the fool."

    --Sawfish ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=c3=b6s?=@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Fri Sep 29 19:12:34 2023
    On 29.9.2023 10.55, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 17:46:58 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 28.9.2023 0.03, TT wrote:
    jdeluise kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.42:
    TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:

    jdeluise kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.12:
    TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:

    Very satisfying video

    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20

    Next time bring more police with batons & tasers.
    Wow, you've really taken a hard right turn lately.

    Criminal acts shouldn't have consequences?

    Sure they should, but what's the Finnish connection? It seems like
    you're just reciting right-wing talking points lately. These are the
    biggest problems in the world according to them, and apparently also to >>>> a Finn who doesn't deal with these problems regularly.

    There is some small scale stealing in Finland too, in areas with
    immigrants.
    It was painfully obvious what the "parallel" would be. If you liken the
    two in any way, you've lost all sense of proportion.

    It's funny how you chumps have to post things happening in the US or
    Sweden to prove how bad it is or is going to be in Finland.

    cos it's just a matter of time until it's like that in Finland too, you dimvit. You got to remember how your woke dumbness has won Sweden rape capital of the world!

    *Rolls eyes*
    My reaction comes from seeing quite a few videos from USA in which
    mostly black people go to store and take bags of stuff without anybody
    doing anything about it. It's quite puzzling manifestation of failed
    society.

    Meanwhile coloured youth street gangs have become the norm in Helsinki.
    Every gathering of 5 is a "street gang" these days. There is an increase
    in juvenile street "crime", meaning the former something like 10
    robberies/year is now something like 15 for the past one year. Of course
    the folks from PerSu fail to mention that the longer term trend is
    declining. They sure are not the "norm" anywhere. Can't say for sure
    what kind of a shthole you reside in, though.

    excuses excuses always excuses,

    You should pay a visit, like you've threatened a couple of times, and
    come see for yourself. Helsinki is a peaceful city. Lovely in the
    summer, a reasonable looking Brit scores like no tomorrow.

    Expensive to live in though. Some of the proposals of the PerSu lady
    combined with inflation will make it prohibitively expensive for some.
    Doing that is a badski idea: economic segregation is a fact of life, but
    you should not be making it worse on purpose. Pack people with the same problems in the same place and they tend to look up the same solution
    manuals. Like the one in the topic line.

    But PerSu is PerSu. With a perspective from the PerSu. A bit like Mögg
    is Mögg without the table manners.

    --
    "And off they went, from here to there,
    The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
    -- Traditional

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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Fri Sep 29 09:17:26 2023
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 9:12:36 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/29/23 9:00 AM, bmoore wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 8:11:43 AM UTC-7, jdeluise wrote:
    Scall5 <nos...@home.net> writes:

    On 9/28/2023 3:38 PM, Sawfish wrote:

    Here's a guiding rule: if someone has to *tell* you what to feel
    guilty about, it's probably an attempt at manipulation.
    Can I use this as an email signature? It appears to be spot on!
    What, are you afraid he's going to sue you? He's just described
    "gaslighting"...
    "Gaslighting" is a word I've discovered in the last few years. A great, succinct description of the practice of attacking someone who's essentially busted you in a lie, so the busted person responds with "you are crazy". Comes from an old movie.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslight_(1940_film)
    To be sure I actually understood the term, I watched the movie only 3
    weeks ago. It's so-so...Ingrid Bergman was very young and attractive.

    It's as you say: someone attempting to brow-beat you into disbelieving
    what you have actually seen/experienced, first hand.

    Clumsy as shit manipulation technique: it requires that you
    cooperate--give them the benefit of the doubt. To counter this nonsense,
    you simply kick them in the balls and go about your business.

    Not always so easy if you are close to them.

    Movies from the 30s and 40s often don't hold up today. But there are some :-)

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  • From Gracchus@21:1/5 to bmoore on Fri Sep 29 09:42:52 2023
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 9:01:02 AM UTC-7, bmoore wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 8:11:43 AM UTC-7, jdeluise wrote:

    Can I use this as an email signature? It appears to be spot on!
    What, are you afraid he's going to sue you? He's just described "gaslighting"...

    "Gaslighting" is a word I've discovered in the last few years. A great, succinct description of the practice of attacking someone who's essentially busted you in a lie, so the busted person responds with "you are crazy". Comes from an old movie.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslight_(1940_film)

    Seriously, you really only JUST found out about this and think you're enlightening the rest of us, assuming we are all similarly clueless?

    And from "an old movie"? What, you mean one of them 'ol black and white thingies before they figured out how to make REAL films? **SIGH**

    Sorry, but you deserve to be slapped around for this post.

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 29 19:43:28 2023
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 29.9.2023 klo 19.09:
    On 29.9.2023 12.47, TT wrote:
    The Iceberg kirjoitti 29.9.2023 klo 10.55:
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 17:46:58 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote: >>>> On 28.9.2023 0.03, TT wrote:
    jdeluise kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.42:
    TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:

    jdeluise kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.12:
    TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:

    Very satisfying video

    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20

    Next time bring more police with batons & tasers.
    Wow, you've really taken a hard right turn lately.

    Criminal acts shouldn't have consequences?

    Sure they should, but what's the Finnish connection?  It seems like >>>>>> you're just reciting right-wing talking points lately.  These are the >>>>>> biggest problems in the world according to them, and apparently
    also to
    a Finn who doesn't deal with these problems regularly.

    There is some small scale stealing in Finland too, in areas with
    immigrants.
    It was painfully obvious what the "parallel" would be. If you liken the >>>> two in any way, you've lost all sense of proportion.

    It's funny how you chumps have to post things happening in the US or
    Sweden to prove how bad it is or is going to be in Finland.

    cos it's just a matter of time until it's like that in Finland too,
    you dimvit. You got to remember how your woke dumbness has won Sweden
    rape capital of the world!

    *Rolls eyes*
    My reaction comes from seeing quite a few videos from USA in which
    mostly black people go to store and take bags of stuff without anybody >>>>> doing anything about it. It's quite puzzling manifestation of failed >>>>> society.

    Meanwhile coloured youth street gangs have become the norm in
    Helsinki.
    Every gathering of 5 is a "street gang" these days. There is an
    increase
    in juvenile street "crime", meaning the former something like 10
    robberies/year is now something like 15 for the past one year. Of
    course
    the folks from PerSu fail to mention that the longer term trend is
    declining. They sure are not the "norm" anywhere. Can't say for sure
    what kind of a shthole you reside in, though.

    excuses excuses always excuses, you live in a very wealthy area so
    aren't affected by this. You're like jdeluise living in Alaska,
    chosen purposely far away from any immigrants and any crime caused by
    your dumb disastrous leftist social policies.


    You have to take into account that pelle is lying. He can't be trusted
    on these matters. He's apparently a habitual liar.

    Oh, no! Accusations! The fury! Settle down, Dreyfus. Everything I say is correct.

    Like I say, there is an increase in juvie crime. I give the correct percentage in the case of robberies/year. Even Tiny with the newfound
    calling should understand that the numbers are figurative. I guess not
    when the veins are bulging.

    Like I say, the increase is recent. The trend has been downwards. The increase is probably corona related. It can be seen in the US also, for example.

    https://www.riku.fi/nuorisorikollisuus-on-vahentynyt-pitkaan-mutta-viime-vuonna-vakavin-vakivaltarikollisuus-lisaantyi-poliisi-toistaiseksi-suhtautuisin-edellisvuoden-piikkiin-poikkeusolojen-seurauks/


    Even these stats show that youth crime is on the rise. And the newer
    stats I posted show it even more clearly.

    You're such a dishonest wanker.

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 29 19:52:34 2023
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 29.9.2023 klo 19.12:
    On 29.9.2023 10.55, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 17:46:58 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 28.9.2023 0.03, TT wrote:
    jdeluise kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.42:
    TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:

    jdeluise kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.12:
    TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:

    Very satisfying video

    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20

    Next time bring more police with batons & tasers.
    Wow, you've really taken a hard right turn lately.

    Criminal acts shouldn't have consequences?

    Sure they should, but what's the Finnish connection?  It seems like >>>>> you're just reciting right-wing talking points lately.  These are the >>>>> biggest problems in the world according to them, and apparently
    also to
    a Finn who doesn't deal with these problems regularly.

    There is some small scale stealing in Finland too, in areas with
    immigrants.
    It was painfully obvious what the "parallel" would be. If you liken the
    two in any way, you've lost all sense of proportion.

    It's funny how you chumps have to post things happening in the US or
    Sweden to prove how bad it is or is going to be in Finland.

    cos it's just a matter of time until it's like that in Finland too,
    you dimvit. You got to remember how your woke dumbness has won Sweden
    rape capital of the world!

    *Rolls eyes*
    My reaction comes from seeing quite a few videos from USA in which
    mostly black people go to store and take bags of stuff without anybody >>>> doing anything about it. It's quite puzzling manifestation of failed
    society.

    Meanwhile coloured youth street gangs have become the norm in Helsinki. >>> Every gathering of 5 is a "street gang" these days. There is an increase >>> in juvenile street "crime", meaning the former something like 10
    robberies/year is now something like 15 for the past one year. Of course >>> the folks from PerSu fail to mention that the longer term trend is
    declining. They sure are not the "norm" anywhere. Can't say for sure
    what kind of a shthole you reside in, though.

    excuses excuses always excuses,

    You should pay a visit, like you've threatened a couple of times, and
    come see for yourself. Helsinki is a peaceful city. Lovely in the
    summer, a reasonable looking Brit scores like no tomorrow.


    So you visited some gay bars here. Nice.
    No doubt during Helsinki Pride too.

    Ever considered moving to East Helsinki? Lovely locale... https://x.com/MLemola/status/1707535857492677097?s=20

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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to Gracchus on Fri Sep 29 09:53:22 2023
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 9:42:54 AM UTC-7, Gracchus wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 9:01:02 AM UTC-7, bmoore wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 8:11:43 AM UTC-7, jdeluise wrote:

    Can I use this as an email signature? It appears to be spot on!
    What, are you afraid he's going to sue you? He's just described "gaslighting"...

    "Gaslighting" is a word I've discovered in the last few years. A great, succinct description of the practice of attacking someone who's essentially busted you in a lie, so the busted person responds with "you are crazy". Comes from an old movie.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslight_(1940_film)
    Seriously, you really only JUST found out about this and think you're enlightening the rest of us, assuming we are all similarly clueless?

    Other than you, obviously :-)

    And from "an old movie"? What, you mean one of them 'ol black and white thingies before they figured out how to make REAL films? **SIGH**

    I am so sorry.

    Sorry, but you deserve to be slapped around for this post.

    Heh. Slap away. One of the things I've learned about Gracchus is to tread lightly when discussing movies :-)

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to TT@dprk.kp on Fri Sep 29 18:56:46 2023
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 29.9.2023 klo 19.12:> On 29.9.2023 10.55, The Iceberg wrote:>> On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 17:46:58 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:>>> On 28.9.2023 0.03, TT wrote:>>>> jdeluise kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.42:>>>>> TT <T...@
    dprk.kp> writes:>>>>>>>>>>> jdeluise kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.12:>>>>>>> TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very satisfying video>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Next time bring more
    police with batons & tasers.>>>>>>> Wow, you've really taken a hard right turn lately.>>>>>>>>>>>> Criminal acts shouldn't have consequences?>>>>>>>>>> Sure they should, but what's the Finnish connection? It seems like>>>>> you're just reciting right-
    wing talking points lately. These are the>>>>> biggest problems in the world according to them, and apparently >>>>> also to>>>>> a Finn who doesn't deal with these problems regularly.>>>>>>>> There is some small scale stealing in Finland too, in areas
    with>>>> immigrants.>>> It was painfully obvious what the "parallel" would be. If you liken the>>> two in any way, you've lost all sense of proportion.>>>>>> It's funny how you chumps have to post things happening in the US or>>> Sweden to prove how bad
    it is or is going to be in Finland.>>>> cos it's just a matter of time until it's like that in Finland too, >> you dimvit. You got to remember how your woke dumbness has won Sweden >> rape capital of the world!>>>>> *Rolls eyes*>>>> My reaction comes
    from seeing quite a few videos from USA in which>>>> mostly black people go to store and take bags of stuff without anybody>>>> doing anything about it. It's quite puzzling manifestation of failed>>>> society.>>>>>>>> Meanwhile coloured youth street
    gangs have become the norm in Helsinki.>>> Every gathering of 5 is a "street gang" these days. There is an increase>>> in juvenile street "crime", meaning the former something like 10>>> robberies/year is now something like 15 for the past one year. Of
    course>>> the folks from PerSu fail to mention that the longer term trend is>>> declining. They sure are not the "norm" anywhere. Can't say for sure>>> what kind of a shthole you reside in, though.>>>> excuses excuses always excuses, > > You should pay a
    visit, like you've threatened a couple of times, and > come see for yourself. Helsinki is a peaceful city. Lovely in the > summer, a reasonable looking Brit scores like no tomorrow.> So you visited some gay bars here. Nice.No doubt during Helsinki Pride
    too.Ever considered moving to East Helsinki? Lovely locale...https://x.com/MLemola/status/1707535857492677097?s=20



    Does this mean Finland has learned to be multicultural?


    According to Jews (Barbara Spectre) this now means you will survive.


    You should be happy.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=c3=b6s?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 29 20:03:54 2023
    On 29.9.2023 19.52, TT wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 29.9.2023 klo 19.12:
    On 29.9.2023 10.55, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 17:46:58 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote: >>>> On 28.9.2023 0.03, TT wrote:
    jdeluise kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.42:
    TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:

    jdeluise kirjoitti 27.9.2023 klo 23.12:
    TT <T...@dprk.kp> writes:

    Very satisfying video

    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1706843336743542906?s=20

    Next time bring more police with batons & tasers.
    Wow, you've really taken a hard right turn lately.

    Criminal acts shouldn't have consequences?

    Sure they should, but what's the Finnish connection?  It seems like >>>>>> you're just reciting right-wing talking points lately.  These are the >>>>>> biggest problems in the world according to them, and apparently
    also to
    a Finn who doesn't deal with these problems regularly.

    There is some small scale stealing in Finland too, in areas with
    immigrants.
    It was painfully obvious what the "parallel" would be. If you liken the >>>> two in any way, you've lost all sense of proportion.

    It's funny how you chumps have to post things happening in the US or
    Sweden to prove how bad it is or is going to be in Finland.

    cos it's just a matter of time until it's like that in Finland too,
    you dimvit. You got to remember how your woke dumbness has won Sweden
    rape capital of the world!

    *Rolls eyes*
    My reaction comes from seeing quite a few videos from USA in which
    mostly black people go to store and take bags of stuff without anybody >>>>> doing anything about it. It's quite puzzling manifestation of failed >>>>> society.

    Meanwhile coloured youth street gangs have become the norm in
    Helsinki.
    Every gathering of 5 is a "street gang" these days. There is an
    increase
    in juvenile street "crime", meaning the former something like 10
    robberies/year is now something like 15 for the past one year. Of
    course
    the folks from PerSu fail to mention that the longer term trend is
    declining. They sure are not the "norm" anywhere. Can't say for sure
    what kind of a shthole you reside in, though.

    excuses excuses always excuses,

    You should pay a visit, like you've threatened a couple of times, and
    come see for yourself. Helsinki is a peaceful city. Lovely in the
    summer, a reasonable looking Brit scores like no tomorrow.


    So you visited some gay bars here. Nice.
    No doubt during Helsinki Pride too.

    Ever considered moving to East Helsinki? Lovely locale... https://x.com/MLemola/status/1707535857492677097?s=20

    You're sound distraught.

    --
    "And off they went, from here to there,
    The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
    -- Traditional

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  • From jdeluise@21:1/5 to Gracchus on Fri Sep 29 09:08:13 2023
    Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com> writes:


    Seriously, you really only JUST found out about this and think you're enlightening the rest of us, assuming we are all similarly clueless?

    And from "an old movie"? What, you mean one of them 'ol black and
    white thingies before they figured out how to make REAL films?
    **SIGH**

    Sorry, but you deserve to be slapped around for this post.

    Interestingly I've noticed the term is in pretty popular use by "gen z", usually *as* a form of gaslighting. eg. if they're feeling the heat
    after being caught in a lie they say they're being gaslighted.

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to bmoore on Fri Sep 29 10:13:50 2023
    On 9/29/23 9:17 AM, bmoore wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 9:12:36 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/29/23 9:00 AM, bmoore wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 8:11:43 AM UTC-7, jdeluise wrote:
    Scall5 <nos...@home.net> writes:

    On 9/28/2023 3:38 PM, Sawfish wrote:

    Here's a guiding rule: if someone has to *tell* you what to feel
    guilty about, it's probably an attempt at manipulation.
    Can I use this as an email signature? It appears to be spot on!
    What, are you afraid he's going to sue you? He's just described
    "gaslighting"...
    "Gaslighting" is a word I've discovered in the last few years. A great, succinct description of the practice of attacking someone who's essentially busted you in a lie, so the busted person responds with "you are crazy". Comes from an old movie.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslight_(1940_film)
    To be sure I actually understood the term, I watched the movie only 3
    weeks ago. It's so-so...Ingrid Bergman was very young and attractive.

    It's as you say: someone attempting to brow-beat you into disbelieving
    what you have actually seen/experienced, first hand.

    Clumsy as shit manipulation technique: it requires that you
    cooperate--give them the benefit of the doubt. To counter this nonsense,
    you simply kick them in the balls and go about your business.
    Not always so easy if you are close to them.

    Yes, like the movie.

    But you know, the lesson is: don't get close to people like that, and if
    by chance you do, get unclose, toot sweet...

    No shit. Take agency. Do yourself a favor.


    Movies from the 30s and 40s often don't hold up today. But there are some :-)
    Agreed.


    --
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The difference between a democracy and a dictatorship is that in a democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you don’t have to waste your time voting."

    --Charles Bukowski ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 29 20:19:05 2023
    jdeluise kirjoitti 29.9.2023 klo 20.08:
    Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com> writes:


    Seriously, you really only JUST found out about this and think you're
    enlightening the rest of us, assuming we are all similarly clueless?

    And from "an old movie"? What, you mean one of them 'ol black and
    white thingies before they figured out how to make REAL films?
    **SIGH**

    Sorry, but you deserve to be slapped around for this post.

    Interestingly I've noticed the term is in pretty popular use by "gen z", usually *as* a form of gaslighting. eg. if they're feeling the heat
    after being caught in a lie they say they're being gaslighted.

    Wonder how many saw the film...

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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Fri Sep 29 10:34:40 2023
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 10:13:54 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/29/23 9:17 AM, bmoore wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 9:12:36 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/29/23 9:00 AM, bmoore wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 8:11:43 AM UTC-7, jdeluise wrote: >>>> Scall5 <nos...@home.net> writes:

    On 9/28/2023 3:38 PM, Sawfish wrote:

    Here's a guiding rule: if someone has to *tell* you what to feel >>>>>> guilty about, it's probably an attempt at manipulation.
    Can I use this as an email signature? It appears to be spot on!
    What, are you afraid he's going to sue you? He's just described
    "gaslighting"...
    "Gaslighting" is a word I've discovered in the last few years. A great, succinct description of the practice of attacking someone who's essentially busted you in a lie, so the busted person responds with "you are crazy". Comes from an old movie.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslight_(1940_film)
    To be sure I actually understood the term, I watched the movie only 3
    weeks ago. It's so-so...Ingrid Bergman was very young and attractive.

    It's as you say: someone attempting to brow-beat you into disbelieving
    what you have actually seen/experienced, first hand.

    Clumsy as shit manipulation technique: it requires that you
    cooperate--give them the benefit of the doubt. To counter this nonsense, >> you simply kick them in the balls and go about your business.
    Not always so easy if you are close to them.
    Yes, like the movie.

    But you know, the lesson is: don't get close to people like that, and if
    by chance you do, get unclose, toot sweet...

    Sure, but what if they're family?

    No shit. Take agency. Do yourself a favor.

    I don't disagree. Sad, though.

    Movies from the 30s and 40s often don't hold up today. But there are some :-)
    Agreed.

    We're off to see the wizard...

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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Fri Sep 29 10:43:27 2023
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 10:08:22 AM UTC-7, jdeluise wrote:
    Gracchus <grac...@gmail.com> writes:


    Seriously, you really only JUST found out about this and think you're enlightening the rest of us, assuming we are all similarly clueless?

    And from "an old movie"? What, you mean one of them 'ol black and
    white thingies before they figured out how to make REAL films?
    **SIGH**

    Sorry, but you deserve to be slapped around for this post.
    Interestingly I've noticed the term is in pretty popular use by "gen z", usually *as* a form of gaslighting. eg. if they're feeling the heat
    after being caught in a lie they say they're being gaslighted.

    Yeah, but that's really reverse-gaslighting. I hate that all forms of rational discussion have been co-opted so that people use it, but without any facts.

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 29 10:43:30 2023
    On 9/29/23 10:19 AM, TT wrote:
    jdeluise kirjoitti 29.9.2023 klo 20.08:
    Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com> writes:


    Seriously, you really only JUST found out about this and think you're
    enlightening the rest of us, assuming we are all similarly clueless?

    And from "an old movie"? What, you mean one of them 'ol black and
    white thingies before they figured out how to make REAL films?
    **SIGH**

    Sorry, but you deserve to be slapped around for this post.

    Interestingly I've noticed the term is in pretty popular use by "gen z",
    usually *as* a form of gaslighting.  eg. if they're feeling the heat
    after being caught in a lie they say they're being gaslighted.

    Wonder how many saw the film...

    I don't think they have a clue regarding "gaslighting". In its original meaning, it must have been a sort of alias or macro for the *concept* of
    the film, whereby a person directly experiences something, and another
    person willfully tells them that they are mistaken.

    I'll tell you frankly that when I saw the film (one month ago?) the
    biggest impediment to the film's credibility was that I could not
    believe that any adult would ever even listen to such horseshit. I mean,
    I wouldn't even try to gaslight a kid. I'd expect them to tell me where
    to get off.

    But things were different, I suppose.

    --
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    "I only trust statistics that I have falsified, myself."

    --Winston Churchill ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to Gracchus on Fri Sep 29 10:47:14 2023
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 12:42:54 PM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 9:01:02 AM UTC-7, bmoore wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 8:11:43 AM UTC-7, jdeluise wrote:

    Can I use this as an email signature? It appears to be spot on!
    What, are you afraid he's going to sue you? He's just described "gaslighting"...

    "Gaslighting" is a word I've discovered in the last few years. A great, succinct description of the practice of attacking someone who's essentially busted you in a lie, so the busted person responds with "you are crazy". Comes from an old movie.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslight_(1940_film)
    Seriously, you really only JUST found out about this and think you're enlightening the rest of us, assuming we are all similarly clueless?

    And from "an old movie"? What, you mean one of them 'ol black and white thingies before they figured out how to make REAL films? **SIGH**

    Sorry, but you deserve to be slapped around for this post.

    I have heard it like 20 times this week while the Sisters Wives show was running on TV :)

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to bmoore on Fri Sep 29 10:45:11 2023
    On 9/29/23 10:34 AM, bmoore wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 10:13:54 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/29/23 9:17 AM, bmoore wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 9:12:36 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/29/23 9:00 AM, bmoore wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 8:11:43 AM UTC-7, jdeluise wrote: >>>>>> Scall5 <nos...@home.net> writes:

    On 9/28/2023 3:38 PM, Sawfish wrote:

    Here's a guiding rule: if someone has to *tell* you what to feel >>>>>>>> guilty about, it's probably an attempt at manipulation.
    Can I use this as an email signature? It appears to be spot on!
    What, are you afraid he's going to sue you? He's just described
    "gaslighting"...
    "Gaslighting" is a word I've discovered in the last few years. A great, succinct description of the practice of attacking someone who's essentially busted you in a lie, so the busted person responds with "you are crazy". Comes from an old movie.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslight_(1940_film)
    To be sure I actually understood the term, I watched the movie only 3
    weeks ago. It's so-so...Ingrid Bergman was very young and attractive.

    It's as you say: someone attempting to brow-beat you into disbelieving >>>> what you have actually seen/experienced, first hand.

    Clumsy as shit manipulation technique: it requires that you
    cooperate--give them the benefit of the doubt. To counter this nonsense, >>>> you simply kick them in the balls and go about your business.
    Not always so easy if you are close to them.
    Yes, like the movie.

    But you know, the lesson is: don't get close to people like that, and if
    by chance you do, get unclose, toot sweet...
    Sure, but what if they're family?
    Harder, requiring finesse. But still essential.

    No shit. Take agency. Do yourself a favor.
    I don't disagree. Sad, though.

    Movies from the 30s and 40s often don't hold up today. But there are some :-)
    Agreed.
    We're off to see the wizard...


    --
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sawfish: He talks the talk...but does he walk the walk? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Fri Sep 29 10:48:26 2023
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 10:45:15 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/29/23 10:34 AM, bmoore wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 10:13:54 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/29/23 9:17 AM, bmoore wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 9:12:36 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/29/23 9:00 AM, bmoore wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 8:11:43 AM UTC-7, jdeluise wrote: >>>>>> Scall5 <nos...@home.net> writes:

    On 9/28/2023 3:38 PM, Sawfish wrote:

    Here's a guiding rule: if someone has to *tell* you what to feel >>>>>>>> guilty about, it's probably an attempt at manipulation.
    Can I use this as an email signature? It appears to be spot on! >>>>>> What, are you afraid he's going to sue you? He's just described >>>>>> "gaslighting"...
    "Gaslighting" is a word I've discovered in the last few years. A great, succinct description of the practice of attacking someone who's essentially busted you in a lie, so the busted person responds with "you are crazy". Comes from an old movie.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslight_(1940_film)
    To be sure I actually understood the term, I watched the movie only 3 >>>> weeks ago. It's so-so...Ingrid Bergman was very young and attractive. >>>>
    It's as you say: someone attempting to brow-beat you into disbelieving >>>> what you have actually seen/experienced, first hand.

    Clumsy as shit manipulation technique: it requires that you
    cooperate--give them the benefit of the doubt. To counter this nonsense,
    you simply kick them in the balls and go about your business.
    Not always so easy if you are close to them.
    Yes, like the movie.

    But you know, the lesson is: don't get close to people like that, and if >> by chance you do, get unclose, toot sweet...
    Sure, but what if they're family?
    Harder, requiring finesse. But still essential.

    Truth.


    No shit. Take agency. Do yourself a favor.
    I don't disagree. Sad, though.

    Movies from the 30s and 40s often don't hold up today. But there are some :-)
    Agreed.
    We're off to see the wizard...
    -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sawfish: He talks the talk...but does he walk the walk? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to bmoore on Fri Sep 29 10:58:50 2023
    On 9/29/23 10:43 AM, bmoore wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 10:08:22 AM UTC-7, jdeluise wrote:
    Gracchus <grac...@gmail.com> writes:

    Seriously, you really only JUST found out about this and think you're
    enlightening the rest of us, assuming we are all similarly clueless?

    And from "an old movie"? What, you mean one of them 'ol black and
    white thingies before they figured out how to make REAL films?
    **SIGH**

    Sorry, but you deserve to be slapped around for this post.
    Interestingly I've noticed the term is in pretty popular use by "gen z",
    usually *as* a form of gaslighting. eg. if they're feeling the heat
    after being caught in a lie they say they're being gaslighted.
    Yeah, but that's really reverse-gaslighting. I hate that all forms of rational discussion have been co-opted so that people use it, but without any facts.

    Yes. It's fucked, deeply fucked.

    So I have tended to over-react to it, which not good, either.

    The real point is that the emergent generation, Gen Z, does not share
    enough of the same values, and/or in the same priority of importance,
    that I do, so it's near impossible have any really significant exchange
    of ideas.

    E.g., privacy. This I value highly, and while if you ask them if they
    value it, they might say "Yes", then will turn around, take a demeaning
    selfie, and put it up on open social media.

    Same with the idea of hypocrisy, same with personal dignity, same with self-restraint, same with compromise, same with personal accountability,
    same with...

    None of these have the same priority, and sadly, even the same basic
    *meaning*, so a complete disconnect.

    --
    --Sawfish ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Life is a tragedy to those who feel, a comedy to those who think." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Fri Sep 29 11:05:34 2023
    On 9/29/23 10:47 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 12:42:54 PM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 9:01:02 AM UTC-7, bmoore wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 8:11:43 AM UTC-7, jdeluise wrote:
    Can I use this as an email signature? It appears to be spot on!
    What, are you afraid he's going to sue you? He's just described
    "gaslighting"...
    "Gaslighting" is a word I've discovered in the last few years. A great, succinct description of the practice of attacking someone who's essentially busted you in a lie, so the busted person responds with "you are crazy". Comes from an old movie.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslight_(1940_film)
    Seriously, you really only JUST found out about this and think you're enlightening the rest of us, assuming we are all similarly clueless?

    And from "an old movie"? What, you mean one of them 'ol black and white thingies before they figured out how to make REAL films? **SIGH**

    Sorry, but you deserve to be slapped around for this post.
    I have heard it like 20 times this week while the Sisters Wives show was running on TV :)

    Well, it's like "phobia": used to be fairly narrowly defined as a fear
    of a particular thing. They like the sound of it, don't really care what
    the precise meaning is (and that's true for most everything when
    speaking of these types of people), and so they are going to redefine it on-the-fly.

    And it will change, evolve. Like what to call people of sub-Saharan
    African descent this week.

    --Sawfish

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Life is a tragedy to those who feel, a comedy to those who think." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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