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  • Grand Slam, bridge, golf, tennis

    From *skriptis@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 24 13:31:17 2023
    Term came from bridge into golf into tennis.


    Winning top 4 major championships in golf was dubbed as Grand Slam. Very soon, almost at the same time, in tennis too for its 4 major championships.

    Golf majors aren't known as grand slams, but in tennis, they're falsely known as that.

    Grand Slam in golf happened in 1930, and never again. Not only that, two championships were dropped over the next couple of decades (amateurs), and in cca 1960s the term was reinvented as two pro events were hailed as big ones, and nowadays Grand Slam
    consists of another 2 that were not part of the original sequence.




    For tennis, I think it would be best to use the terms such as majors, ITF official titles, or merely ITF titles for those big 4 in tennis.

    Laver has 2 Grand Slams and and Djokovic has 24 ITF Official Championships.

    Djokovic has 24 grand slams and Nadal 22 grand slams...no.


    What does our journalist Patrick say?


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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 25 02:44:34 2023
    On 24/09/2023 9:31 pm, *skriptis wrote:

    Term came from bridge into golf into tennis.


    Winning top 4 major championships in golf was dubbed as Grand Slam. Very soon, almost at the same time, in tennis too for its 4 major championships.

    Golf majors aren't known as grand slams, but in tennis, they're falsely known as that.

    Grand Slam in golf happened in 1930, and never again. Not only that, two championships were dropped over the next couple of decades (amateurs), and in cca 1960s the term was reinvented as two pro events were hailed as big ones, and nowadays Grand Slam
    consists of another 2 that were not part of the original sequence.




    For tennis, I think it would be best to use the terms such as majors, ITF official titles, or merely ITF titles for those big 4 in tennis.

    Laver has 2 Grand Slams and and Djokovic has 24 ITF Official Championships.

    Djokovic has 24 grand slams and Nadal 22 grand slams...no.


    What does our journalist Patrick say?




    Great idea, I fully agree. 'Majors' is sufficient to differentiate from
    all other events - Novak has 24 majors, Nadal 22 majors, Federer 20
    majors - self explanatory, pretty clear cut. 'Grand Slam' should be
    reserved for all 4 in 1 year. 'Grand Slam' is bandied about too
    frequently so the non tennis/golf crowd have no idea what's going on.
    In recent years there have been media reports of Novak 'going for the
    grand slam', Nadal 'half way to the grand slam' in 2022 etc. These are
    big deals, very important stories. 'Grand Slam' should be reserved for
    it's original intended purpose, not cheapened by using it for every 'major'.

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 24 15:00:12 2023
    On Sunday, 24 September 2023 at 12:31:18 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:
    Term came from bridge into golf into tennis.


    Winning top 4 major championships in golf was dubbed as Grand Slam. Very soon, almost at the same time, in tennis too for its 4 major championships.

    Golf majors aren't known as grand slams, but in tennis, they're falsely known as that.

    Grand Slam in golf happened in 1930, and never again. Not only that, two championships were dropped over the next couple of decades (amateurs), and in cca 1960s the term was reinvented as two pro events were hailed as big ones, and nowadays Grand Slam
    consists of another 2 that were not part of the original sequence.




    For tennis, I think it would be best to use the terms such as majors, ITF official titles, or merely ITF titles for those big 4 in tennis.

    Laver has 2 Grand Slams and and Djokovic has 24 ITF Official Championships.

    Djokovic has 24 grand slams and Nadal 22 grand slams...no.


    What does our journalist Patrick say?

    Patrick says "majors" could confuse people with the army, so they should be called "Fedams" cos everyone knows Roger Federer as he is so famous and also more importantly was the first man to get 20 of them and that's a HUGEEEEEEEE landmark benchmark that
    we should all look to and respect.

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Mon Sep 25 07:55:06 2023
    The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    Patrick says "majors" could confuse people with the army, so they should be called "Fedams" cos everyone knows Roger Federer as he is so famous and also more importantly was the first man to get 20 of them and that's a HUGEEEEEEEE landmark benchmark
    that we should all look to and respect.



    Hahaha


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