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    From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 18 12:16:15 2023
    https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014

    Our politicians are really great
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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Tue Sep 19 02:36:38 2023
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014Our politicians are really great-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html



    You should read America's greatest journalist and writer on this.

    Andrew Anglin



    https://dailystormer.in/grimy-hoe-lauren-boebert-did-public-dick-stroking-of-a-dude-who-owns-a-faggot-bar/




    Very good article, very good.
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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to skriptis@post.t-com.hr on Mon Sep 18 23:34:11 2023
    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r> https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014Our politicians are really great-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.
    htmlYou should read America's greatest journalist and writer on this.Andrew Anglinhttps://dailystormer.in/grimy-hoe-lauren-boebert-did-public-dick-stroking-of-a-dude-who-owns-a-faggot-bar/Very good article, very good. -- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----
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    Of course not all women are like her.
    The rule is the majority are decent.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=c3=b6s?=@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Tue Sep 19 10:04:25 2023
    On 19.9.2023 6.34, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r> https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014Our politicians are really great-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.
    htmlYou should read America's greatest journalist and writer on this.Andrew Anglinhttps://dailystormer.in/grimy-hoe-lauren-boebert-did-public-dick-stroking-of-a-dude-who-owns-a-faggot-bar/Very good article, very good. -- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----
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    Of course not all women are like her.

    But all two-faced, alt-facting alt-righters are.

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  • From rec.sport.tennis@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 19 00:59:02 2023
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 08:04:31 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 19.9.2023 6.34, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    *skriptis <skri...@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r> https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014Our politicians are really great-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.
    htmlYou should read America's greatest journalist and writer on this.Andrew Anglinhttps://dailystormer.in/grimy-hoe-lauren-boebert-did-public-dick-stroking-of-a-dude-who-owns-a-faggot-bar/Very good article, very good. -- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----
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    Of course not all women are like her.
    But all two-faced, alt-facting alt-righters are.

    whereas you Marxists who always lie/hide your real agenda and love genocide, causing wars + grooming/molesting/sexualising children are very decent, honest, upstanding citizens LOLski how's the "alt-facts" work on having 155 different genders?

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  • From rec.sport.tennis@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 19 03:09:22 2023
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 01:36:41 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014Our politicians are really great-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html



    You should read America's greatest journalist and writer on this.

    Andrew Anglin



    https://dailystormer.in/grimy-hoe-lauren-boebert-did-public-dick-stroking-of-a-dude-who-owns-a-faggot-bar/




    Very good article, very good.

    just read this article, yes very well written and interesting! he the best journalist cos he answers to no one and can say anything he likes.

    From my observation, a big part of the reason that so many men have such an inaccurate perception of women is that they are (probably subconsciously) basing their understanding of women in part on female characters in entertainment media. These female
    characters in media are almost always written by men, and men project things onto them. I tell men to think of a single situation in their life where:

    A woman has offered interesting conversation, or
    A woman has shown remorse (or taken responsibility) for anything she’s done wrong.

    Women do not have beliefs because they do not have convictions. They are not compelled in the way that men are compelled. Therefore, politics are impossible for them to understand or care about, as at least real politics relate to convictions. Most women
    who talk about politics, you will note, are only interested in issues that directly affect their personal lives, such as abortion, or which provide a platform for them to draw attention to themselves and signal their high morality by siding with the
    establishment (BLM, immigration, gun control, etc.). There are some women who go into conservative politics because they realize they can do the same thing – draw attention to themselves.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=c3=b6s?=@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 19 14:07:59 2023
    On 19.9.2023 13.09, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 01:36:41 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014Our politicians are really great-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html



    You should read America's greatest journalist and writer on this.

    Andrew Anglin



    https://dailystormer.in/grimy-hoe-lauren-boebert-did-public-dick-stroking-of-a-dude-who-owns-a-faggot-bar/




    Very good article, very good.

    just read this article, yes very well written and interesting! he the best journalist cos he answers to no one and can say anything he likes.

    From my observation, a big part of the reason that so many men have such an inaccurate perception of women is that they are (probably subconsciously) basing their understanding of women in part on female characters in entertainment media. These female
    characters in media are almost always written by men, and men project things onto them. I tell men to think of a single situation in their life where:

    A woman has offered interesting conversation, or
    A woman has shown remorse (or taken responsibility) for anything she’s done wrong.

    Lol.

    Women do not have beliefs because they do not have convictions. They are not compelled in the way that men are compelled. Therefore, politics are impossible for them to understand or care about, as at least real politics relate to convictions. Most
    women who talk about politics, you will note, are only interested in issues that directly affect their personal lives, such as abortion, or which provide a platform for them to draw attention to themselves and signal their high morality by siding with
    the establishment (BLM, immigration, gun control, etc.). There are some women who go into conservative politics because they realize they can do the same thing – draw attention to themselves.

    Lol.

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 19 08:56:01 2023
    On 9/19/23 3:09 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 01:36:41 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014Our politicians are really great-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html


    You should read America's greatest journalist and writer on this.

    Andrew Anglin



    https://dailystormer.in/grimy-hoe-lauren-boebert-did-public-dick-stroking-of-a-dude-who-owns-a-faggot-bar/




    Very good article, very good.
    just read this article, yes very well written and interesting! he the best journalist cos he answers to no one and can say anything he likes.

    From my observation, a big part of the reason that so many men have such an inaccurate perception of women is that they are (probably subconsciously) basing their understanding of women in part on female characters in entertainment media. These female
    characters in media are almost always written by men, and men project things onto them. I tell men to think of a single situation in their life where:

    A woman has offered interesting conversation, or
    A woman has shown remorse (or taken responsibility) for anything she’s done wrong.

    Women do not have beliefs because they do not have convictions. They are not compelled in the way that men are compelled. Therefore, politics are impossible for them to understand or care about, as at least real politics relate to convictions. Most
    women who talk about politics, you will note, are only interested in issues that directly affect their personal lives, such as abortion, or which provide a platform for them to draw attention to themselves and signal their high morality by siding with
    the establishment (BLM, immigration, gun control, etc.). There are some women who go into conservative politics because they realize they can do the same thing – draw attention to themselves.

    I skimmed over the article. I think the author has some valid basic observations about the differences in the traditional roles of
    male/female in European society but that he magnifies the differences to
    gain a polemic position and then states these magnified differences as
    true in every case in an absolute sense.

    But enough of that. Let's play around with the idea that women are
    basically irresponsible due to the role they see themselves as filling:
    they can, therefore, have no honor as men understand the term. Let's try
    on the idea that de-feminized women--assertive lesbians--exhibit
    some/all of the same motivations that men do. That they are therefore
    just as responsible as men, and possibly have honor.

    Does it work like that?

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 19 10:02:16 2023
    On 9/19/23 9:47 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:56:06 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/19/23 3:09 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 01:36:41 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014Our politicians are really great-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html

    You should read America's greatest journalist and writer on this.

    Andrew Anglin



    https://dailystormer.in/grimy-hoe-lauren-boebert-did-public-dick-stroking-of-a-dude-who-owns-a-faggot-bar/




    Very good article, very good.
    just read this article, yes very well written and interesting! he the best journalist cos he answers to no one and can say anything he likes.

    From my observation, a big part of the reason that so many men have such an inaccurate perception of women is that they are (probably subconsciously) basing their understanding of women in part on female characters in entertainment media. These
    female characters in media are almost always written by men, and men project things onto them. I tell men to think of a single situation in their life where:

    A woman has offered interesting conversation, or
    A woman has shown remorse (or taken responsibility) for anything she’s done wrong.

    Women do not have beliefs because they do not have convictions. They are not compelled in the way that men are compelled. Therefore, politics are impossible for them to understand or care about, as at least real politics relate to convictions. Most
    women who talk about politics, you will note, are only interested in issues that directly affect their personal lives, such as abortion, or which provide a platform for them to draw attention to themselves and signal their high morality by siding with
    the establishment (BLM, immigration, gun control, etc.). There are some women who go into conservative politics because they realize they can do the same thing – draw attention to themselves.
    I skimmed over the article. I think the author has some valid basic
    observations about the differences in the traditional roles of
    male/female in European society but that he magnifies the differences to
    gain a polemic position and then states these magnified differences as
    true in every case in an absolute sense.
    Yes. Did you know that Anglin cannot enter the US lest he be arrested for skipping town after losing a suit about his encouragement of violence against Jews? He is a mama's boy and a loser. Actions speak louder than words.

    But enough of that. Let's play around with the idea that women are
    basically irresponsible due to the role they see themselves as filling:
    they can, therefore, have no honor as men understand the term. Let's try
    on the idea that de-feminized women--assertive lesbians--exhibit
    some/all of the same motivations that men do. That they are therefore
    just as responsible as men, and possibly have honor.

    Does it work like that?
    Funny, Saw.

    There are plenty of irresponsible men, and plenty of responsible women. Anglin is a pussy and a hypocrite for not taking responsibility for his actions. Who cares if he writes well? Where does he post from now, Rwanda?

    That's all well and good, but the the author mentions a sort of
    feminization of males in the US--which I agree with--and I'd go a bit
    farther: in feminizing males, the entire culture becomes more feminized
    simply as a result of the lessening of masculine values in the general
    society.

    I'm not taking a stand on this just yet. I have an initial stance, but
    it's really just reflexive, since I'm a traditionalist. I'm trying to
    test it.

    But if, for the sake of argument, it's true that males are becoming
    feminized and in doing so the value of honor and ultimate responsibility
    (male values, as per the article) are being lessened, would the
    masculinization of females, as per assertive, male role lesbians, mean
    that the lost masculinity (if this is indeed what's happening) is now
    being recaptured in masculinized females?

    I don't care about the author, at all. It's these intriguing
    possibilities that interest me.

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  • From rec.sport.tennis@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Tue Sep 19 09:47:20 2023
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:56:06 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/19/23 3:09 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 01:36:41 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014Our politicians are really great-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html


    You should read America's greatest journalist and writer on this.

    Andrew Anglin



    https://dailystormer.in/grimy-hoe-lauren-boebert-did-public-dick-stroking-of-a-dude-who-owns-a-faggot-bar/




    Very good article, very good.
    just read this article, yes very well written and interesting! he the best journalist cos he answers to no one and can say anything he likes.

    From my observation, a big part of the reason that so many men have such an inaccurate perception of women is that they are (probably subconsciously) basing their understanding of women in part on female characters in entertainment media. These
    female characters in media are almost always written by men, and men project things onto them. I tell men to think of a single situation in their life where:

    A woman has offered interesting conversation, or
    A woman has shown remorse (or taken responsibility) for anything she’s done wrong.

    Women do not have beliefs because they do not have convictions. They are not compelled in the way that men are compelled. Therefore, politics are impossible for them to understand or care about, as at least real politics relate to convictions. Most
    women who talk about politics, you will note, are only interested in issues that directly affect their personal lives, such as abortion, or which provide a platform for them to draw attention to themselves and signal their high morality by siding with
    the establishment (BLM, immigration, gun control, etc.). There are some women who go into conservative politics because they realize they can do the same thing – draw attention to themselves.
    I skimmed over the article. I think the author has some valid basic observations about the differences in the traditional roles of
    male/female in European society but that he magnifies the differences to gain a polemic position and then states these magnified differences as
    true in every case in an absolute sense.

    Yes. Did you know that Anglin cannot enter the US lest he be arrested for skipping town after losing a suit about his encouragement of violence against Jews? He is a mama's boy and a loser. Actions speak louder than words.

    But enough of that. Let's play around with the idea that women are
    basically irresponsible due to the role they see themselves as filling:
    they can, therefore, have no honor as men understand the term. Let's try
    on the idea that de-feminized women--assertive lesbians--exhibit
    some/all of the same motivations that men do. That they are therefore
    just as responsible as men, and possibly have honor.

    Does it work like that?

    Funny, Saw.

    There are plenty of irresponsible men, and plenty of responsible women. Anglin is a pussy and a hypocrite for not taking responsibility for his actions. Who cares if he writes well? Where does he post from now, Rwanda?

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Tue Sep 19 19:29:07 2023
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On 9/19/23 9:47 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:> On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:56:06 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:>> On 9/19/23 3:09 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:>>> On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 01:36:41 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:>>>> PeteWasLucky <
    waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>>>> https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014Our politicians are really great-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html>>>>>>>> You
    should read America's greatest journalist and writer on this.>>>>>>>> Andrew Anglin>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://dailystormer.in/grimy-hoe-lauren-boebert-did-public-dick-stroking-of-a-dude-who-owns-a-faggot-bar/>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very good article, very
    good.>>> just read this article, yes very well written and interesting! he the best journalist cos he answers to no one and can say anything he likes.>>>>>> From my observation, a big part of the reason that so many men have such an inaccurate
    perception of women is that they are (probably subconsciously) basing their understanding of women in part on female characters in entertainment media. These female characters in media are almost always written by men, and men project things onto them. I
    tell men to think of a single situation in their life where:>>>>>> A woman has offered interesting conversation, or>>> A woman has shown remorse (or taken responsibility) for anything she’s done wrong.>>>>>> Women do not have beliefs because they do
    not have convictions. They are not compelled in the way that men are compelled. Therefore, politics are impossible for them to understand or care about, as at least real politics relate to convictions. Most women who talk about politics, you will note,
    are only interested in issues that directly affect their personal lives, such as abortion, or which provide a platform for them to draw attention to themselves and signal their high morality by siding with the establishment (BLM, immigration, gun control,
    etc.). There are some women who go into conservative politics because they realize they can do the same thing – draw attention to themselves.>> I skimmed over the article. I think the author has some valid basic>> observations about the differences in
    the traditional roles of>> male/female in European society but that he magnifies the differences to>> gain a polemic position and then states these magnified differences as>> true in every case in an absolute sense.> Yes. Did you know that Anglin cannot
    enter the US lest he be arrested for skipping town after losing a suit about his encouragement of violence against Jews? He is a mama's boy and a loser. Actions speak louder than words.>>> But enough of that. Let's play around with the idea that women
    basically irresponsible due to the role they see themselves as filling:>> they can, therefore, have no honor as men understand the term. Let's try>> on the idea that de-feminized women--assertive lesbians--exhibit>> some/all of the same motivations
    that men do. That they are therefore>> just as responsible as men, and possibly have honor.>>>> Does it work like that?> Funny, Saw.>> There are plenty of irresponsible men, and plenty of responsible women. Anglin is a pussy and a hypocrite for not
    taking responsibility for his actions. Who cares if he writes well? Where does he post from now, Rwanda?That's all well and good, but the the author mentions a sort of feminization of males in the US--which I agree with--and I'd go a bit farther: in
    feminizing males, the entire culture becomes more feminized simply as a result of the lessening of masculine values in the general society.I'm not taking a stand on this just yet. I have an initial stance, but it's really just reflexive, since I'm a
    traditionalist. I'm trying to test it.But if, for the sake of argument, it's true that males are becoming feminized and in doing so the value of honor and ultimate responsibility (male values, as per the article) are being lessened, would the
    masculinization of females, as per assertive, male role lesbians, mean that the lost masculinity (if this is indeed what's happening) is now being recaptured in masculinized females?I don't care about the author, at all. It's these intriguing
    possibilities that interest me.-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. But give a man a boat,a case of beer, and a few sticks of dynamite..." -- Sawfish



    No as lesbisns are also women. And the worst kind of, rebbeling against natural order, male authority and so on.

    They're not a positive exception, rather horrendous radicals.


    The few exceptions you are looking are highly pious women, who believe in God, who respect traditional society and that equates to women who are submissive to male order.

    E.g. Queen Elisabeth II was ok, because she spent her life trying to be worthy successor to her dad and fullfil her duties in and old system.

    But as author said, they all work to undermine things one way or another.

    Remember during her reign, male primogeniture was abolished. So you'll get a lot more queens there from now on.

    So author is 100% right.





    There's a reason why Jesus had 12 men as his disciples. Men are meant to govern.

    If he had women there as equals, nothing would be done, no ideas would be discussed, nothing would be taught or learnt, spread, all you'd get is sex, quarrels and gossips.



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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Tue Sep 19 10:29:43 2023
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:02:24 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/19/23 9:47 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:56:06 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/19/23 3:09 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 01:36:41 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014Our politicians are really great-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html

    You should read America's greatest journalist and writer on this.

    Andrew Anglin



    https://dailystormer.in/grimy-hoe-lauren-boebert-did-public-dick-stroking-of-a-dude-who-owns-a-faggot-bar/




    Very good article, very good.
    just read this article, yes very well written and interesting! he the best journalist cos he answers to no one and can say anything he likes.

    From my observation, a big part of the reason that so many men have such an inaccurate perception of women is that they are (probably subconsciously) basing their understanding of women in part on female characters in entertainment media. These
    female characters in media are almost always written by men, and men project things onto them. I tell men to think of a single situation in their life where:

    A woman has offered interesting conversation, or
    A woman has shown remorse (or taken responsibility) for anything she’s done wrong.

    Women do not have beliefs because they do not have convictions. They are not compelled in the way that men are compelled. Therefore, politics are impossible for them to understand or care about, as at least real politics relate to convictions. Most
    women who talk about politics, you will note, are only interested in issues that directly affect their personal lives, such as abortion, or which provide a platform for them to draw attention to themselves and signal their high morality by siding with
    the establishment (BLM, immigration, gun control, etc.). There are some women who go into conservative politics because they realize they can do the same thing – draw attention to themselves.
    I skimmed over the article. I think the author has some valid basic
    observations about the differences in the traditional roles of
    male/female in European society but that he magnifies the differences to >> gain a polemic position and then states these magnified differences as
    true in every case in an absolute sense.
    Yes. Did you know that Anglin cannot enter the US lest he be arrested for skipping town after losing a suit about his encouragement of violence against Jews? He is a mama's boy and a loser. Actions speak louder than words.

    But enough of that. Let's play around with the idea that women are
    basically irresponsible due to the role they see themselves as filling: >> they can, therefore, have no honor as men understand the term. Let's try >> on the idea that de-feminized women--assertive lesbians--exhibit
    some/all of the same motivations that men do. That they are therefore
    just as responsible as men, and possibly have honor.

    Does it work like that?
    Funny, Saw.

    There are plenty of irresponsible men, and plenty of responsible women. Anglin is a pussy and a hypocrite for not taking responsibility for his actions. Who cares if he writes well? Where does he post from now, Rwanda?
    That's all well and good, but the the author mentions a sort of
    feminization of males in the US--which I agree with--and I'd go a bit farther: in feminizing males, the entire culture becomes more feminized simply as a result of the lessening of masculine values in the general society.

    I'm not taking a stand on this just yet. I have an initial stance, but
    it's really just reflexive, since I'm a traditionalist. I'm trying to
    test it.

    But if, for the sake of argument, it's true that males are becoming feminized and in doing so the value of honor and ultimate responsibility (male values, as per the article) are being lessened, would the masculinization of females, as per assertive, male role lesbians, mean
    that the lost masculinity (if this is indeed what's happening) is now
    being recaptured in masculinized females?

    I don't care about the author, at all. It's these intriguing
    possibilities that interest me.

    OK. But I think responsibility is a human asset, not just a male one. My mother went back to school after we kids got old enough, and her resulting paycheck basically put me through college, minus a few student loans. And I don't think my mother was an
    exception.

    What do you mean by feminization of men? Honest question.

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to bmoore on Tue Sep 19 19:36:08 2023
    bmoore <bmoore@nyx.net> Wrote in message:r
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:02:24 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:> On 9/19/23 9:47 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote: > > On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:56:06 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote: > >> On 9/19/23 3:09 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote: > >>> On
    Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 01:36:41 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote: > >>>> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r > >>>>> https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014Our politicians are really great-- ----Android NewsGroup
    Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html > >>>> > >>>> You should read America's greatest journalist and writer on this. > >>>> > >>>> Andrew Anglin > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> https://dailystormer.in/grimy-hoe-lauren-
    boebert-did-public-dick-stroking-of-a-dude-who-owns-a-faggot-bar/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Very good article, very good. > >>> just read this article, yes very well written and interesting! he the best journalist cos he answers to no one and
    can say anything he likes. > >>> > >>> From my observation, a big part of the reason that so many men have such an inaccurate perception of women is that they are (probably subconsciously) basing their understanding of women in part on female characters
    in entertainment media. These female characters in media are almost always written by men, and men project things onto them. I tell men to think of a single situation in their life where: > >>> > >>> A woman has offered interesting conversation, or > >>>
    A woman has shown remorse (or taken responsibility) for anything she’s done wrong. > >>> > >>> Women do not have beliefs because they do not have convictions. They are not compelled in the way that men are compelled. Therefore, politics are impossible
    for them to understand or care about, as at least real politics relate to convictions. Most women who talk about politics, you will note, are only interested in issues that directly affect their personal lives, such as abortion, or which provide a
    platform for them to draw attention to themselves and signal their high morality by siding with the establishment (BLM, immigration, gun control, etc.). There are some women who go into conservative politics because they realize they can do the same
    thing – draw attention to themselves. > >> I skimmed over the article. I think the author has some valid basic > >> observations about the differences in the traditional roles of > >> male/female in European society but that he magnifies the
    differences to > >> gain a polemic position and then states these magnified differences as > >> true in every case in an absolute sense. > > Yes. Did you know that Anglin cannot enter the US lest he be arrested for skipping town after losing a suit about
    his encouragement of violence against Jews? He is a mama's boy and a loser. Actions speak louder than words. > > > >> But enough of that. Let's play around with the idea that women are > >> basically irresponsible due to the role they see themselves as
    filling: > >> they can, therefore, have no honor as men understand the term. Let's try > >> on the idea that de-feminized women--assertive lesbians--exhibit > >> some/all of the same motivations that men do. That they are therefore > >> just as
    responsible as men, and possibly have honor. > >> > >> Does it work like that? > > Funny, Saw. > > > > There are plenty of irresponsible men, and plenty of responsible women. Anglin is a pussy and a hypocrite for not taking responsibility for his actions.
    Who cares if he writes well? Where does he post from now, Rwanda?> That's all well and good, but the the author mentions a sort of > feminization of males in the US--which I agree with--and I'd go a bit > farther: in feminizing males, the entire culture
    becomes more feminized > simply as a result of the lessening of masculine values in the general > society. > > I'm not taking a stand on this just yet. I have an initial stance, but > it's really just reflexive, since I'm a traditionalist. I'm trying to >
    test it. > > But if, for the sake of argument, it's true that males are becoming > feminized and in doing so the value of honor and ultimate responsibility > (male values, as per the article) are being lessened, would the > masculinization of females,
    as per assertive, male role lesbians, mean > that the lost masculinity (if this is indeed what's happening) is now > being recaptured in masculinized females? > > I don't care about the author, at all. It's these intriguing > possibilities that interest
    me. OK. But I think responsibility is a human asset, not just a male one. My mother went back to school after we kids got old enough, and her resulting paycheck basically put me through college, minus a few student loans. And I don't think my mother was
    an exception.What do you mean by feminization of men? Honest question.


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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to skriptis@post.t-com.hr on Tue Sep 19 19:36:49 2023
    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r
    bmoore <bmoore@nyx.net> Wrote in message:r> On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:02:24 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:> On 9/19/23 9:47 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote: > > On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:56:06 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote: > >> On 9/19/23 3:09
    AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote: > >>> On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 01:36:41 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote: > >>>> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r > >>>>> https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014Our politicians are
    really great-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html > >>>> > >>>> You should read America's greatest journalist and writer on this. > >>>> > >>>> Andrew Anglin > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> https://
    dailystormer.in/grimy-hoe-lauren-boebert-did-public-dick-stroking-of-a-dude-who-owns-a-faggot-bar/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Very good article, very good. > >>> just read this article, yes very well written and interesting! he the best
    journalist cos he answers to no one and can say anything he likes. > >>> > >>> From my observation, a big part of the reason that so many men have such an inaccurate perception of women is that they are (probably subconsciously) basing their
    understanding of women in part on female characters in entertainment media. These female characters in media are almost always written by men, and men project things onto them. I tell men to think of a single situation in their life where: > >>> > >>> A
    woman has offered interesting conversation, or > >>> A woman has shown remorse (or taken responsibility) for anything she’s done wrong. > >>> > >>> Women do not have beliefs because they do not have convictions. They are not compelled in the way that
    men are compelled. Therefore, politics are impossible for them to understand or care about, as at least real politics relate to convictions. Most women who talk about politics, you will note, are only interested in issues that directly affect their
    personal lives, such as abortion, or which provide a platform for them to draw attention to themselves and signal their high morality by siding with the establishment (BLM, immigration, gun control, etc.). There are some women who go into conservative
    politics because they realize they can do the same thing – draw attention to themselves. > >> I skimmed over the article. I think the author has some valid basic > >> observations about the differences in the traditional roles of > >> male/female in
    European society but that he magnifies the differences to > >> gain a polemic position and then states these magnified differences as > >> true in every case in an absolute sense. > > Yes. Did you know that Anglin cannot enter the US lest he be arrested
    for skipping town after losing a suit about his encouragement of violence against Jews? He is a mama's boy and a loser. Actions speak louder than words. > > > >> But enough of that. Let's play around with the idea that women are > >> basically
    irresponsible due to the role they see themselves as filling: > >> they can, therefore, have no honor as men understand the term. Let's try > >> on the idea that de-feminized women--assertive lesbians--exhibit > >> some/all of the same motivations that
    men do. That they are therefore > >> just as responsible as men, and possibly have honor. > >> > >> Does it work like that? > > Funny, Saw. > > > > There are plenty of irresponsible men, and plenty of responsible women. Anglin is a pussy and a hypocrite
    for not taking responsibility for his actions. Who cares if he writes well? Where does he post from now, Rwanda?> That's all well and good, but the the author mentions a sort of > feminization of males in the US--which I agree with--and I'd go a bit >
    farther: in feminizing males, the entire culture becomes more feminized > simply as a result of the lessening of masculine values in the general > society. > > I'm not taking a stand on this just yet. I have an initial stance, but > it's really just
    reflexive, since I'm a traditionalist. I'm trying to > test it. > > But if, for the sake of argument, it's true that males are becoming > feminized and in doing so the value of honor and ultimate responsibility > (male values, as per the article) are
    being lessened, would the > masculinization of females, as per assertive, male role lesbians, mean > that the lost masculinity (if this is indeed what's happening) is now > being recaptured in masculinized females? > > I don't care about the author, at
    all. It's these intriguing > possibilities that interest me. OK. But I think responsibility is a human asset, not just a male one. My mother went back to school after we kids got old enough, and her resulting paycheck basically put me through college,
    minus a few student loans. And I don't think my mother was an exception.What do you mean by feminization of men? Honest question. https://youtube.com/shorts/o5HeUt6SXys?si=-en6-Tgau0SWkHdM-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.
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    His rpm is very high ;)


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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 19 10:37:13 2023
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:29:10 AM UTC-7, *skriptis wrote:
    Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On 9/19/23 9:47 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:> On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:56:06 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:>> On 9/19/23 3:09 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:>>> On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 01:36:41 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:>>>> PeteWasLucky <
    waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>>>> https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014Our politicians are really great-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html>>>>>>>> You
    should read America's greatest journalist and writer on this.>>>>>>>> Andrew Anglin>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://dailystormer.in/grimy-hoe-lauren-boebert-did-public-dick-stroking-of-a-dude-who-owns-a-faggot-bar/>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very good article, very
    good.>>> just read this article, yes very well written and interesting! he the best journalist cos he answers to no one and can say anything he likes.>>>>>> From my observation, a big part of the reason that so many men have such an inaccurate perception
    of women is that they are (probably subconsciously) basing their understanding of women in part on female characters in entertainment media. These female characters in media are almost always written by men, and men project things onto them. I tell men
    to think of a single situation in their life where:>>>>>> A woman has offered interesting conversation, or>>> A woman has shown remorse (or taken responsibility) for anything she’s done wrong.>>>>>> Women do not have beliefs because they do not have
    convictions. They are not compelled in the way that men are compelled. Therefore, politics are impossible for them to understand or care about, as at least real politics relate to convictions. Most women who talk about politics, you will note, are only
    interested in issues that directly affect their personal lives, such as abortion, or which provide a platform for them to draw attention to themselves and signal their high morality by siding with the establishment (BLM, immigration, gun control, etc.).
    There are some women who go into conservative politics because they realize they can do the same thing – draw attention to themselves.>> I skimmed over the article. I think the author has some valid basic>> observations about the differences in the
    traditional roles of>> male/female in European society but that he magnifies the differences to>> gain a polemic position and then states these magnified differences as>> true in every case in an absolute sense.> Yes. Did you know that Anglin cannot
    enter the US lest he be arrested for skipping town after losing a suit about his encouragement of violence against Jews? He is a mama's boy and a loser. Actions speak louder than words.>>> But enough of that. Let's play around with the idea that women
    basically irresponsible due to the role they see themselves as filling:>> they can, therefore, have no honor as men understand the term. Let's try>> on the idea that de-feminized women--assertive lesbians--exhibit>> some/all of the same motivations
    that men do. That they are therefore>> just as responsible as men, and possibly have honor.>>>> Does it work like that?> Funny, Saw.>> There are plenty of irresponsible men, and plenty of responsible women. Anglin is a pussy and a hypocrite for not
    taking responsibility for his actions. Who cares if he writes well? Where does he post from now, Rwanda?That's all well and good, but the the author mentions a sort of feminization of males in the US--which I agree with--and I'd go a bit farther: in
    feminizing males, the entire culture becomes more feminized simply as a result of the lessening of masculine values in the general society.I'm not taking a stand on this just yet. I have an initial stance, but it's really just reflexive, since I'm a
    traditionalist. I'm trying to test it.But if, for the sake of argument, it's true that males are becoming feminized and in doing so the value of honor and ultimate responsibility (male values, as per the article) are being lessened, would the
    masculinization of females, as per assertive, male role lesbians, mean that the lost masculinity (if this is indeed what's happening) is now being recaptured in masculinized females?I don't care about the author, at all. It's these intriguing
    possibilities that interest me.-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. But give a man a boat,a case of beer, and a few sticks of dynamite..." -- Sawfish



    No as lesbisns are also women. And the worst kind of, rebbeling against natural order, male authority and so on.

    They're not a positive exception, rather horrendous radicals.


    The few exceptions you are looking are highly pious women, who believe in God, who respect traditional society and that equates to women who are submissive to male order.

    E.g. Queen Elisabeth II was ok, because she spent her life trying to be worthy successor to her dad and fullfil her duties in and old system.

    But as author said, they all work to undermine things one way or another.

    Remember during her reign, male primogeniture was abolished. So you'll get a lot more queens there from now on.

    So author is 100% right.





    There's a reason why Jesus had 12 men as his disciples. Men are meant to govern.

    Skrip, you would have made a great apostle. Until they found out that you hate Jews :-)

    If he had women there as equals, nothing would be done, no ideas would be discussed, nothing would be taught or learnt, spread, all you'd get is sex, quarrels and gossips.

    Plenty of female disciples, even in the early days. But it was a man's world then.

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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 19 10:40:49 2023
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:36:11 AM UTC-7, *skriptis wrote:
    bmoore <bmo...@nyx.net> Wrote in message:r
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:02:24 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:> On 9/19/23 9:47 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote: > > On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:56:06 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote: > >> On 9/19/23 3:09 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote: > >>> On
    Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 01:36:41 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote: > >>>> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r > >>>>> https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014Our politicians are really great-- ----Android NewsGroup
    Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html > >>>> > >>>> You should read America's greatest journalist and writer on this. > >>>> > >>>> Andrew Anglin > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> https://dailystormer.in/grimy-hoe-lauren-
    boebert-did-public-dick-stroking-of-a-dude-who-owns-a-faggot-bar/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Very good article, very good. > >>> just read this article, yes very well written and interesting! he the best journalist cos he answers to no one and
    can say anything he likes. > >>> > >>> From my observation, a big part of the reason that so many men have such an inaccurate perception of women is that they are (probably subconsciously) basing their understanding of women in part on female characters
    in entertainment media. These female characters in media are almost always written by men, and men project things onto them. I tell men to think of a single situation in their life where: > >>> > >>> A woman has offered interesting conversation, or > >>>
    A woman has shown remorse (or taken responsibility) for anything she’s done wrong. > >>> > >>> Women do not have beliefs because they do not have convictions. They are not compelled in the way that men are compelled. Therefore, politics are impossible
    for them to understand or care about, as at least real politics relate to convictions. Most women who talk about politics, you will note, are only interested in issues that directly affect their personal lives, such as abortion, or which provide a
    platform for them to draw attention to themselves and signal their high morality by siding with the establishment (BLM, immigration, gun control, etc.). There are some women who go into conservative politics because they realize they can do the same
    thing – draw attention to themselves. > >> I skimmed over the article. I think the author has some valid basic > >> observations about the differences in the traditional roles of > >> male/female in European society but that he magnifies the
    differences to > >> gain a polemic position and then states these magnified differences as > >> true in every case in an absolute sense. > > Yes. Did you know that Anglin cannot enter the US lest he be arrested for skipping town after losing a suit about
    his encouragement of violence against Jews? He is a mama's boy and a loser. Actions speak louder than words. > > > >> But enough of that. Let's play around with the idea that women are > >> basically irresponsible due to the role they see themselves as
    filling: > >> they can, therefore, have no honor as men understand the term. Let's try > >> on the idea that de-feminized women--assertive lesbians--exhibit > >> some/all of the same motivations that men do. That they are therefore > >> just as
    responsible as men, and possibly have honor. > >> > >> Does it work like that? > > Funny, Saw. > > > > There are plenty of irresponsible men, and plenty of responsible women. Anglin is a pussy and a hypocrite for not taking responsibility for his actions.
    Who cares if he writes well? Where does he post from now, Rwanda?> That's all well and good, but the the author mentions a sort of > feminization of males in the US--which I agree with--and I'd go a bit > farther: in feminizing males, the entire culture
    becomes more feminized > simply as a result of the lessening of masculine values in the general > society. > > I'm not taking a stand on this just yet. I have an initial stance, but > it's really just reflexive, since I'm a traditionalist. I'm trying to >
    test it. > > But if, for the sake of argument, it's true that males are becoming > feminized and in doing so the value of honor and ultimate responsibility > (male values, as per the article) are being lessened, would the > masculinization of females,
    as per assertive, male role lesbians, mean > that the lost masculinity (if this is indeed what's happening) is now > being recaptured in masculinized females? > > I don't care about the author, at all. It's these intriguing > possibilities that interest
    me. OK. But I think responsibility is a human asset, not just a male one. My mother went back to school after we kids got old enough, and her resulting paycheck basically put me through college, minus a few student loans. And I don't think my mother was
    an exception.What do you mean by feminization of men? Honest question.


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  • From jdeluise@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Tue Sep 19 10:37:14 2023
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:


    That's all well and good, but the the author mentions a sort of
    feminization of males in the US--which I agree with--and I'd go a bit farther: in feminizing males, the entire culture becomes more
    feminized simply as a result of the lessening of masculine values in
    the general society.

    Have women become more or less "feminine", in your estimation?

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 19 22:32:57 2023
    jdeluise kirjoitti 19.9.2023 klo 21.37:
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:


    That's all well and good, but the the author mentions a sort of
    feminization of males in the US--which I agree with--and I'd go a bit
    farther: in feminizing males, the entire culture becomes more
    feminized simply as a result of the lessening of masculine values in
    the general society.

    Have women become more or less "feminine", in your estimation?

    Depends on era of comparison.

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 19 22:41:26 2023
    rec.sport.tennis kirjoitti 19.9.2023 klo 19.47:
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:56:06 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/19/23 3:09 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 01:36:41 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014Our politicians are really great-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html


    You should read America's greatest journalist and writer on this.

    Andrew Anglin



    https://dailystormer.in/grimy-hoe-lauren-boebert-did-public-dick-stroking-of-a-dude-who-owns-a-faggot-bar/




    Very good article, very good.
    just read this article, yes very well written and interesting! he the best journalist cos he answers to no one and can say anything he likes.

    From my observation, a big part of the reason that so many men have such an inaccurate perception of women is that they are (probably subconsciously) basing their understanding of women in part on female characters in entertainment media. These
    female characters in media are almost always written by men, and men project things onto them. I tell men to think of a single situation in their life where:

    A woman has offered interesting conversation, or
    A woman has shown remorse (or taken responsibility) for anything she’s done wrong.

    Women do not have beliefs because they do not have convictions. They are not compelled in the way that men are compelled. Therefore, politics are impossible for them to understand or care about, as at least real politics relate to convictions. Most
    women who talk about politics, you will note, are only interested in issues that directly affect their personal lives, such as abortion, or which provide a platform for them to draw attention to themselves and signal their high morality by siding with
    the establishment (BLM, immigration, gun control, etc.). There are some women who go into conservative politics because they realize they can do the same thing – draw attention to themselves.
    I skimmed over the article. I think the author has some valid basic
    observations about the differences in the traditional roles of
    male/female in European society but that he magnifies the differences to
    gain a polemic position and then states these magnified differences as
    true in every case in an absolute sense.

    Yes. Did you know that Anglin cannot enter the US lest he be arrested for skipping town after losing a suit about his encouragement of violence against Jews? He is a mama's boy and a loser. Actions speak louder than words.

    But enough of that. Let's play around with the idea that women are
    basically irresponsible due to the role they see themselves as filling:
    they can, therefore, have no honor as men understand the term. Let's try
    on the idea that de-feminized women--assertive lesbians--exhibit
    some/all of the same motivations that men do. That they are therefore
    just as responsible as men, and possibly have honor.

    Does it work like that?

    Funny, Saw.

    There are plenty of irresponsible men, and plenty of responsible women. Anglin is a pussy and a hypocrite for not taking responsibility for his actions. Who cares if he writes well? Where does he post from now, Rwanda?

    Writes well? I don't think so.

    And his hatred against women may have something to do with impotence / repressed homosexuality...

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/12/the-making-of-an-american-nazi/544119/

    But people who knew Anglin in high school told me that, for reasons that
    were unclear, his behavior became erratic and frightening sometime
    around the beginning of his sophomore year at Linworth. Visitors to his
    house saw holes in his bedroom walls, and they knew that when he was
    upset, he would smash his head into things. Several recall an episode at
    a party: Anglin burst out crying after Alison drunkenly kissed someone
    else, then ran outside and bashed his head on the sidewalk over and over.

    He harmed himself in other ways, too. He tried to tattoo the name of his favorite band, Modest Mouse, on his upper arm but gave up after two and
    a half letters, leaving him with moi etched on his skin. He stretched
    his earlobes by jamming thick marker caps into piercing holes until they dripped blood. He claimed to feel no pain and used lighters to melt the
    flesh on the inside of his forearms. He provoked people into assaulting
    him but never fought back, instead laughing as the blows fell. Two kids
    beat him into a gutter once. Anglin just lay there until they stopped,
    out of pity and confusion.

    Former friends recall that Anglin’s parents seemed blind to their son’s alarming behavior. And while he could be tender toward his younger
    siblings, Chelsey and Mitch, and loyal to his friends, he also had a
    sadistic side. Alison (who asked that her last name be withheld from
    this article) told me that during Anglin’s sophomore year, she called
    him, distraught: She said she’d passed out at a party and been raped by
    a friend’s older brother. She needed compassion and support, but Anglin
    just laughed and broke up with her.

    “You’re a slut,” she remembers him saying.

    Several girls Anglin had gotten to know at another high school began
    calling her house at all hours of the night, according to Alison and
    other sources. “You deserved it,” they’d say. “You slut.” Alison says the abuse went on for weeks, as Anglin showed friends a video he’d made
    of them having sex.

    After the breakup, Dan Newman, another friend at the time, remembers
    Anglin once bashing his head into the walls of his bedroom in such a
    frenzy that his mother had to call the police. Several classmates told
    me that Anglin didn’t date again in high school and sometimes tried to
    kiss other boys, including one black student he especially liked.

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to TT@dprk.kp on Tue Sep 19 21:44:29 2023
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r
    rec.sport.tennis kirjoitti 19.9.2023 klo 19.47:> On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:56:06 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:>> On 9/19/23 3:09 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:>>> On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 01:36:41 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:>>>> PeteWasLucky <
    waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>>>> https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014Our politicians are really great-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You should read America's greatest journalist and writer on this.>>>>>>>> Andrew Anglin>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://dailystormer.in/grimy-hoe-lauren-boebert-did-public-dick-stroking-of-a-dude-who-owns-a-faggot-bar/>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very good article, very
    good.>>> just read this article, yes very well written and interesting! he the best journalist cos he answers to no one and can say anything he likes.>>>>>> From my observation, a big part of the reason that so many men have such an inaccurate
    perception of women is that they are (probably subconsciously) basing their understanding of women in part on female characters in entertainment media. These female characters in media are almost always written by men, and men project things onto them. I
    tell men to think of a single situation in their life where:>>>>>> A woman has offered interesting conversation, or>>> A woman has shown remorse (or taken responsibility) for anything she’s done wrong.>>>>>> Women do not have beliefs because they do
    not have convictions. They are not compelled in the way that men are compelled. Therefore, politics are impossible for them to understand or care about, as at least real politics relate to convictions. Most women who talk about politics, you will note,
    are only interested in issues that directly affect their personal lives, such as abortion, or which provide a platform for them to draw attention to themselves and signal their high morality by siding with the establishment (BLM, immigration, gun control,
    etc.). There are some women who go into conservative politics because they realize they can do the same thing – draw attention to themselves.>> I skimmed over the article. I think the author has some valid basic>> observations about the differences in
    the traditional roles of>> male/female in European society but that he magnifies the differences to>> gain a polemic position and then states these magnified differences as>> true in every case in an absolute sense.> > Yes. Did you know that Anglin
    cannot enter the US lest he be arrested for skipping town after losing a suit about his encouragement of violence against Jews? He is a mama's boy and a loser. Actions speak louder than words.> >> But enough of that. Let's play around with the idea that
    women are>> basically irresponsible due to the role they see themselves as filling:>> they can, therefore, have no honor as men understand the term. Let's try>> on the idea that de-feminized women--assertive lesbians--exhibit>> some/all of the same
    motivations that men do. That they are therefore>> just as responsible as men, and possibly have honor.>>>> Does it work like that?> > Funny, Saw.> > There are plenty of irresponsible men, and plenty of responsible women. Anglin is a pussy and a
    hypocrite for not taking responsibility for his actions. Who cares if he writes well? Where does he post from now, Rwanda?Writes well? I don't think so.And his hatred against women may have something to do with impotence / repressed homosexuality...https:
    //www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/12/the-making-of-an-american-nazi/544119/But people who knew Anglin in high school told me that, for reasons that were unclear, his behavior became erratic and frightening sometime around the beginning of his
    sophomore year at Linworth. Visitors to his house saw holes in his bedroom walls, and they knew that when he was upset, he would smash his head into things. Several recall an episode at a party: Anglin burst out crying after Alison drunkenly kissed
    someone else, then ran outside and bashed his head on the sidewalk over and over.He harmed himself in other ways, too. He tried to tattoo the name of his favorite band, Modest Mouse, on his upper arm but gave up after two and a half letters, leaving him
    with moi etched on his skin. He stretched his earlobes by jamming thick marker caps into piercing holes until they dripped blood. He claimed to feel no pain and used lighters to melt the flesh on the inside of his forearms. He provoked people into
    assaulting him but never fought back, instead laughing as the blows fell. Two kids beat him into a gutter once. Anglin just lay there until they stopped, out of pity and confusion.Former friends recall that Anglin’s parents seemed blind to their son’
    s alarming behavior. And while he could be tender toward his younger siblings, Chelsey and Mitch, and loyal to his friends, he also had a sadistic side. Alison (who asked that her last name be withheld from this article) told me that during Anglin’s
    sophomore year, she called him, distraught: She said she’d passed out at a party and been raped by a friend’s older brother. She needed compassion and support, but Anglin just laughed and broke up with her.“You’re a slut,” she remembers him
    saying.Several girls Anglin had gotten to know at another high school began calling her house at all hours of the night, according to Alison and other sources. “You deserved it,” they’d say. “You slut.” Alison says the abuse went on for weeks,
    as Anglin showed friends a video he’d made of them having sex.After the breakup, Dan Newman, another friend at the time, remembers Anglin once bashing his head into the walls of his bedroom in such a frenzy that his mother had to call the police.
    Several classmates told me that Anglin didn’t date again in high school and sometimes tried to kiss other boys, including one black student he especially liked.



    Anglin exposed that guy in several of his articles.

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 19 23:37:11 2023
    bmoore kirjoitti 19.9.2023 klo 20.29:
    What do you mean by feminization of men? Honest question.


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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to bmoore on Tue Sep 19 13:52:04 2023
    On 9/19/23 10:29 AM, bmoore wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:02:24 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/19/23 9:47 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:56:06 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/19/23 3:09 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 01:36:41 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014Our politicians are really great-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html
    You should read America's greatest journalist and writer on this.

    Andrew Anglin



    https://dailystormer.in/grimy-hoe-lauren-boebert-did-public-dick-stroking-of-a-dude-who-owns-a-faggot-bar/




    Very good article, very good.
    just read this article, yes very well written and interesting! he the best journalist cos he answers to no one and can say anything he likes.

    From my observation, a big part of the reason that so many men have such an inaccurate perception of women is that they are (probably subconsciously) basing their understanding of women in part on female characters in entertainment media. These
    female characters in media are almost always written by men, and men project things onto them. I tell men to think of a single situation in their life where:

    A woman has offered interesting conversation, or
    A woman has shown remorse (or taken responsibility) for anything she’s done wrong.

    Women do not have beliefs because they do not have convictions. They are not compelled in the way that men are compelled. Therefore, politics are impossible for them to understand or care about, as at least real politics relate to convictions. Most
    women who talk about politics, you will note, are only interested in issues that directly affect their personal lives, such as abortion, or which provide a platform for them to draw attention to themselves and signal their high morality by siding with
    the establishment (BLM, immigration, gun control, etc.). There are some women who go into conservative politics because they realize they can do the same thing – draw attention to themselves.
    I skimmed over the article. I think the author has some valid basic
    observations about the differences in the traditional roles of
    male/female in European society but that he magnifies the differences to >>>> gain a polemic position and then states these magnified differences as >>>> true in every case in an absolute sense.
    Yes. Did you know that Anglin cannot enter the US lest he be arrested for skipping town after losing a suit about his encouragement of violence against Jews? He is a mama's boy and a loser. Actions speak louder than words.

    But enough of that. Let's play around with the idea that women are
    basically irresponsible due to the role they see themselves as filling: >>>> they can, therefore, have no honor as men understand the term. Let's try >>>> on the idea that de-feminized women--assertive lesbians--exhibit
    some/all of the same motivations that men do. That they are therefore
    just as responsible as men, and possibly have honor.

    Does it work like that?
    Funny, Saw.

    There are plenty of irresponsible men, and plenty of responsible women. Anglin is a pussy and a hypocrite for not taking responsibility for his actions. Who cares if he writes well? Where does he post from now, Rwanda?
    That's all well and good, but the the author mentions a sort of
    feminization of males in the US--which I agree with--and I'd go a bit
    farther: in feminizing males, the entire culture becomes more feminized
    simply as a result of the lessening of masculine values in the general
    society.

    I'm not taking a stand on this just yet. I have an initial stance, but
    it's really just reflexive, since I'm a traditionalist. I'm trying to
    test it.

    But if, for the sake of argument, it's true that males are becoming
    feminized and in doing so the value of honor and ultimate responsibility
    (male values, as per the article) are being lessened, would the
    masculinization of females, as per assertive, male role lesbians, mean
    that the lost masculinity (if this is indeed what's happening) is now
    being recaptured in masculinized females?

    I don't care about the author, at all. It's these intriguing
    possibilities that interest me.
    OK. But I think responsibility is a human asset, not just a male one. My mother went back to school after we kids got old enough, and her resulting paycheck basically put me through college, minus a few student loans. And I don't think my mother was an
    exception.

    Yes, that's been my experience, too. There are responsible *people* and irresponsible *people*.

    However, traditional patriarchal social organization tend to be
    self-policing, self-condemning. The patriarchal group strongly
    criticizes lack of honor and shirking of responsibility, but does not
    expect the same *level* of conformity to these high standards for
    females, for the most part.

    If this is accurate, can we say that female hierarchy in this same
    patriarchal society puts a corresponding amounts of pressure on wayward
    females as is placed upon wayward males by the patriarchal hierarchy? I
    think not...

    This is not to say that there is *no* pressure or stigma attached to
    female shortcomings, but until fairly recently, there was no greater
    failure for a married man with children than to not provide for them,
    and to not protect the household, or for that matter, the nation, from existential threat.

    No one expected this from females; they were perceived as the
    comforters, the gentle ones. You can allow them to cry, to show
    weakness, but not for men.


    What do you mean by feminization of men? Honest question.

    In general, b, I'd say that the migration away from punishment for
    *clear* transgressions--a paternal stance, traditionally--toward an
    external remediation supplied by a comforting, sympathetic entity--which
    had formerly been a maternal approach--is one sign of a feminization of
    society as a whole.

    As to individual men, the perception of the "metrosexual" male is what
    I'm talking about. A partner rather than a leader in a domestic
    relationship, or worse, a cooperative sycophant.

    OK, this was rhetorically loaded (for effect...), but I do perceive a
    general retreat from decisive masculine values towards more of a sharing
    and caring response to almost any situation, potentially threatening or otherwise.

    I am viewed as scary and abrupt by some of my daughter's peers. Yet my
    wife does not share this; she says that I fill in the assertiveness that
    she would otherwise be unable to call into play in various instances
    when we have conflict with other interests.

    I do not particularly like doing this, but it is in my DNA that *I* will
    be the one to do it as a part of my definitive responsibilities. Just
    like planning our estate, etc. She will contribute nuances, but it's up
    to me to form the main plan and get it rolling. We are both comfortable
    with this, as it reflects the households in which we grew up.We've both
    seen multiple examples of it working very well, and now we are one.

    Can you dig it?


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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 19 14:04:55 2023
    On 9/19/23 12:32 PM, TT wrote:
    jdeluise kirjoitti 19.9.2023 klo 21.37:
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:


    That's all well and good, but the the author mentions a sort of
    feminization of males in the US--which I agree with--and I'd go a bit
    farther: in feminizing males, the entire culture becomes more
    feminized simply as a result of the lessening of masculine values in
    the general society.

    Have women become more or less "feminine", in your estimation?

    Depends on era of comparison.

    There is a funny thing going on, at least to my perception, and in urban western US settings.

    It appears to me that young men (up to  mid 30s, anyway) are much less
    willing to risk approaching females who they find attractive, and this
    causes a dearth of male attention. In response, young hetero0minded
    females are dressing and acting more provocatively, in a dolorous
    attempt to get male attention. This is not working due to two factors:

    1) feminization of young males (watch any TV commercial to spot metrosexuals...)

    2) fear of being accused of improper behavior

    It produces a sort of woeful neurosis in both young urban sexes at this
    time.

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Tue Sep 19 23:07:05 2023
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    Can you dig it?



    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SnjrcAx9lDQ&t=48s


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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 20 00:22:31 2023
    Sawfish kirjoitti 20.9.2023 klo 0.04:
    On 9/19/23 12:32 PM, TT wrote:
    jdeluise kirjoitti 19.9.2023 klo 21.37:
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:


    That's all well and good, but the the author mentions a sort of
    feminization of males in the US--which I agree with--and I'd go a bit
    farther: in feminizing males, the entire culture becomes more
    feminized simply as a result of the lessening of masculine values in
    the general society.

    Have women become more or less "feminine", in your estimation?

    Depends on era of comparison.

    There is a funny thing going on, at least to my perception, and in urban western US settings.

    It appears to me that young men (up to  mid 30s, anyway) are much less willing to risk approaching females who they find attractive, and this
    causes a dearth of male attention. In response, young hetero0minded
    females are dressing and acting more provocatively, in a dolorous
    attempt to get male attention. This is not working due to two factors:

    1) feminization of young males (watch any TV commercial to spot metrosexuals...)

    2) fear of being accused of improper behavior

    It produces a sort of woeful neurosis in both young urban sexes at this
    time.


    That's probably true. At least there are studies which say that men
    *are* afraid of being accused of harassment when trying to hit a girl.

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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 19 16:19:22 2023
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 5:22:35 PM UTC-4, TT wrote:
    Sawfish kirjoitti 20.9.2023 klo 0.04:
    On 9/19/23 12:32 PM, TT wrote:
    jdeluise kirjoitti 19.9.2023 klo 21.37:
    Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> writes:


    That's all well and good, but the the author mentions a sort of
    feminization of males in the US--which I agree with--and I'd go a bit >>>> farther: in feminizing males, the entire culture becomes more
    feminized simply as a result of the lessening of masculine values in >>>> the general society.

    Have women become more or less "feminine", in your estimation?

    Depends on era of comparison.

    There is a funny thing going on, at least to my perception, and in urban western US settings.

    It appears to me that young men (up to mid 30s, anyway) are much less willing to risk approaching females who they find attractive, and this causes a dearth of male attention. In response, young hetero0minded females are dressing and acting more provocatively, in a dolorous
    attempt to get male attention. This is not working due to two factors:

    1) feminization of young males (watch any TV commercial to spot metrosexuals...)

    2) fear of being accused of improper behavior

    It produces a sort of woeful neurosis in both young urban sexes at this time.

    That's probably true. At least there are studies which say that men
    *are* afraid of being accused of harassment when trying to hit a girl.

    True, girls are the ones that initiate the connection now.

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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Wed Sep 20 07:25:30 2023
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 1:52:10 PM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/19/23 10:29 AM, bmoore wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:02:24 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/19/23 9:47 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:56:06 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote: >>>> On 9/19/23 3:09 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 01:36:41 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote: >>>>>> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014Our politicians are really great-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html
    You should read America's greatest journalist and writer on this. >>>>>>
    Andrew Anglin



    https://dailystormer.in/grimy-hoe-lauren-boebert-did-public-dick-stroking-of-a-dude-who-owns-a-faggot-bar/




    Very good article, very good.
    just read this article, yes very well written and interesting! he the best journalist cos he answers to no one and can say anything he likes.

    From my observation, a big part of the reason that so many men have such an inaccurate perception of women is that they are (probably subconsciously) basing their understanding of women in part on female characters in entertainment media. These
    female characters in media are almost always written by men, and men project things onto them. I tell men to think of a single situation in their life where:

    A woman has offered interesting conversation, or
    A woman has shown remorse (or taken responsibility) for anything she’s done wrong.

    Women do not have beliefs because they do not have convictions. They are not compelled in the way that men are compelled. Therefore, politics are impossible for them to understand or care about, as at least real politics relate to convictions.
    Most women who talk about politics, you will note, are only interested in issues that directly affect their personal lives, such as abortion, or which provide a platform for them to draw attention to themselves and signal their high morality by siding
    with the establishment (BLM, immigration, gun control, etc.). There are some women who go into conservative politics because they realize they can do the same thing – draw attention to themselves.
    I skimmed over the article. I think the author has some valid basic >>>> observations about the differences in the traditional roles of
    male/female in European society but that he magnifies the differences to
    gain a polemic position and then states these magnified differences as >>>> true in every case in an absolute sense.
    Yes. Did you know that Anglin cannot enter the US lest he be arrested for skipping town after losing a suit about his encouragement of violence against Jews? He is a mama's boy and a loser. Actions speak louder than words.

    But enough of that. Let's play around with the idea that women are
    basically irresponsible due to the role they see themselves as filling: >>>> they can, therefore, have no honor as men understand the term. Let's try
    on the idea that de-feminized women--assertive lesbians--exhibit
    some/all of the same motivations that men do. That they are therefore >>>> just as responsible as men, and possibly have honor.

    Does it work like that?
    Funny, Saw.

    There are plenty of irresponsible men, and plenty of responsible women. Anglin is a pussy and a hypocrite for not taking responsibility for his actions. Who cares if he writes well? Where does he post from now, Rwanda?
    That's all well and good, but the the author mentions a sort of
    feminization of males in the US--which I agree with--and I'd go a bit
    farther: in feminizing males, the entire culture becomes more feminized >> simply as a result of the lessening of masculine values in the general
    society.

    I'm not taking a stand on this just yet. I have an initial stance, but
    it's really just reflexive, since I'm a traditionalist. I'm trying to
    test it.

    But if, for the sake of argument, it's true that males are becoming
    feminized and in doing so the value of honor and ultimate responsibility >> (male values, as per the article) are being lessened, would the
    masculinization of females, as per assertive, male role lesbians, mean
    that the lost masculinity (if this is indeed what's happening) is now
    being recaptured in masculinized females?

    I don't care about the author, at all. It's these intriguing
    possibilities that interest me.
    OK. But I think responsibility is a human asset, not just a male one. My mother went back to school after we kids got old enough, and her resulting paycheck basically put me through college, minus a few student loans. And I don't think my mother was
    an exception.
    Yes, that's been my experience, too. There are responsible *people* and irresponsible *people*.

    However, traditional patriarchal social organization tend to be self-policing, self-condemning. The patriarchal group strongly
    criticizes lack of honor and shirking of responsibility, but does not
    expect the same *level* of conformity to these high standards for
    females, for the most part.

    If this is accurate, can we say that female hierarchy in this same patriarchal society puts a corresponding amounts of pressure on wayward females as is placed upon wayward males by the patriarchal hierarchy? I think not...

    This is not to say that there is *no* pressure or stigma attached to
    female shortcomings, but until fairly recently, there was no greater
    failure for a married man with children than to not provide for them,
    and to not protect the household, or for that matter, the nation, from existential threat.

    No one expected this from females; they were perceived as the
    comforters, the gentle ones. You can allow them to cry, to show
    weakness, but not for men.

    What do you mean by feminization of men? Honest question.
    In general, b, I'd say that the migration away from punishment for
    *clear* transgressions--a paternal stance, traditionally--toward an
    external remediation supplied by a comforting, sympathetic entity--which
    had formerly been a maternal approach--is one sign of a feminization of society as a whole.

    As to individual men, the perception of the "metrosexual" male is what
    I'm talking about. A partner rather than a leader in a domestic relationship, or worse, a cooperative sycophant.

    OK, this was rhetorically loaded (for effect...), but I do perceive a general retreat from decisive masculine values towards more of a sharing
    and caring response to almost any situation, potentially threatening or otherwise.

    I am viewed as scary and abrupt by some of my daughter's peers. Yet my
    wife does not share this; she says that I fill in the assertiveness that
    she would otherwise be unable to call into play in various instances
    when we have conflict with other interests.

    I do not particularly like doing this, but it is in my DNA that *I* will
    be the one to do it as a part of my definitive responsibilities. Just
    like planning our estate, etc. She will contribute nuances, but it's up
    to me to form the main plan and get it rolling. We are both comfortable
    with this, as it reflects the households in which we grew up.We've both
    seen multiple examples of it working very well, and now we are one.

    Can you dig it?

    Sure, makes sense.

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to you can't escape this is about what on Wed Sep 20 09:24:41 2023
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 17:47:22 UTC+1, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:56:06 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/19/23 3:09 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 01:36:41 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014Our politicians are really great-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html


    You should read America's greatest journalist and writer on this.

    Andrew Anglin



    https://dailystormer.in/grimy-hoe-lauren-boebert-did-public-dick-stroking-of-a-dude-who-owns-a-faggot-bar/




    Very good article, very good.
    just read this article, yes very well written and interesting! he the best journalist cos he answers to no one and can say anything he likes.

    From my observation, a big part of the reason that so many men have such an inaccurate perception of women is that they are (probably subconsciously) basing their understanding of women in part on female characters in entertainment media. These
    female characters in media are almost always written by men, and men project things onto them. I tell men to think of a single situation in their life where:

    A woman has offered interesting conversation, or
    A woman has shown remorse (or taken responsibility) for anything she’s done wrong.

    Women do not have beliefs because they do not have convictions. They are not compelled in the way that men are compelled. Therefore, politics are impossible for them to understand or care about, as at least real politics relate to convictions. Most
    women who talk about politics, you will note, are only interested in issues that directly affect their personal lives, such as abortion, or which provide a platform for them to draw attention to themselves and signal their high morality by siding with
    the establishment (BLM, immigration, gun control, etc.). There are some women who go into conservative politics because they realize they can do the same thing – draw attention to themselves.
    I skimmed over the article. I think the author has some valid basic observations about the differences in the traditional roles of
    male/female in European society but that he magnifies the differences to gain a polemic position and then states these magnified differences as true in every case in an absolute sense.
    Yes. Did you know that Anglin cannot enter the US lest he be arrested for skipping town after losing a suit about his encouragement of violence against Jews? He is a mama's boy and a loser. Actions speak louder than words.

    so what, you can't escape this is about what he writes, quit trying to run away and distract, know it's your usual Marxist tactics comrade, but won't work here.

    But enough of that. Let's play around with the idea that women are basically irresponsible due to the role they see themselves as filling: they can, therefore, have no honor as men understand the term. Let's try on the idea that de-feminized women--assertive lesbians--exhibit
    some/all of the same motivations that men do. That they are therefore
    just as responsible as men, and possibly have honor.

    Does it work like that?
    Funny, Saw.

    There are plenty of irresponsible men, and plenty of responsible women. Anglin is a pussy and a hypocrite for not taking responsibility for his actions. Who cares if he writes well? Where does he post from now, Rwanda?

    you can't escape that what he writes is correct. We all know that the USA justice system is very corrupt when it comes to freedom of speech, just look at the Assange case. The Swedish government outrightly lied and invented a sexual assault case against
    Julian Assange solely to help get him extradited to the USA and that was because of pressure from the USA to do just that after Assange revealed crimes the USA caused in Iraq. Something fairly similar has happened to Alex Jones, so Anglin thinks no way
    is he risking going to prison in the USA just for writing stuff. Of course zero has happened to anything like that in regard to BLM goverment-approved riots/violence OR even when Demmies targetted Supreme Court justices with violence.

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Wed Sep 20 09:26:40 2023
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 18:02:24 UTC+1, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/19/23 9:47 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:56:06 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/19/23 3:09 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 01:36:41 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014Our politicians are really great-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html

    You should read America's greatest journalist and writer on this.

    Andrew Anglin



    https://dailystormer.in/grimy-hoe-lauren-boebert-did-public-dick-stroking-of-a-dude-who-owns-a-faggot-bar/




    Very good article, very good.
    just read this article, yes very well written and interesting! he the best journalist cos he answers to no one and can say anything he likes.

    From my observation, a big part of the reason that so many men have such an inaccurate perception of women is that they are (probably subconsciously) basing their understanding of women in part on female characters in entertainment media. These
    female characters in media are almost always written by men, and men project things onto them. I tell men to think of a single situation in their life where:

    A woman has offered interesting conversation, or
    A woman has shown remorse (or taken responsibility) for anything she’s done wrong.

    Women do not have beliefs because they do not have convictions. They are not compelled in the way that men are compelled. Therefore, politics are impossible for them to understand or care about, as at least real politics relate to convictions. Most
    women who talk about politics, you will note, are only interested in issues that directly affect their personal lives, such as abortion, or which provide a platform for them to draw attention to themselves and signal their high morality by siding with
    the establishment (BLM, immigration, gun control, etc.). There are some women who go into conservative politics because they realize they can do the same thing – draw attention to themselves.
    I skimmed over the article. I think the author has some valid basic
    observations about the differences in the traditional roles of
    male/female in European society but that he magnifies the differences to >> gain a polemic position and then states these magnified differences as
    true in every case in an absolute sense.
    Yes. Did you know that Anglin cannot enter the US lest he be arrested for skipping town after losing a suit about his encouragement of violence against Jews? He is a mama's boy and a loser. Actions speak louder than words.

    But enough of that. Let's play around with the idea that women are
    basically irresponsible due to the role they see themselves as filling: >> they can, therefore, have no honor as men understand the term. Let's try >> on the idea that de-feminized women--assertive lesbians--exhibit
    some/all of the same motivations that men do. That they are therefore
    just as responsible as men, and possibly have honor.

    Does it work like that?
    Funny, Saw.

    There are plenty of irresponsible men, and plenty of responsible women. Anglin is a pussy and a hypocrite for not taking responsibility for his actions. Who cares if he writes well? Where does he post from now, Rwanda?
    That's all well and good, but the the author mentions a sort of
    feminization of males in the US--which I agree with--and I'd go a bit farther: in feminizing males, the entire culture becomes more feminized simply as a result of the lessening of masculine values in the general society.

    I'm not taking a stand on this just yet. I have an initial stance, but
    it's really just reflexive, since I'm a traditionalist. I'm trying to
    test it.

    But if, for the sake of argument, it's true that males are becoming feminized and in doing so the value of honor and ultimate responsibility (male values, as per the article) are being lessened, would the masculinization of females, as per assertive, male role lesbians, mean
    that the lost masculinity (if this is indeed what's happening) is now
    being recaptured in masculinized females?

    I don't care about the author, at all. It's these intriguing
    possibilities that interest me.

    disagree as no sign/evidence of any of this from lesbians, sure Anglin would say they are regular women and no different at all really, in fact they are possibly even more disloyal as they generally hate men(they think they've been oppressed by men etc)
    and as honor etc. is male they would prob go totally against that.

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 20 09:27:15 2023
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 18:29:10 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:
    Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On 9/19/23 9:47 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:> On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:56:06 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:>> On 9/19/23 3:09 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:>>> On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 01:36:41 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:>>>> PeteWasLucky <
    waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>>>> https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014Our politicians are really great-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html>>>>>>>> You
    should read America's greatest journalist and writer on this.>>>>>>>> Andrew Anglin>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://dailystormer.in/grimy-hoe-lauren-boebert-did-public-dick-stroking-of-a-dude-who-owns-a-faggot-bar/>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very good article, very
    good.>>> just read this article, yes very well written and interesting! he the best journalist cos he answers to no one and can say anything he likes.>>>>>> From my observation, a big part of the reason that so many men have such an inaccurate perception
    of women is that they are (probably subconsciously) basing their understanding of women in part on female characters in entertainment media. These female characters in media are almost always written by men, and men project things onto them. I tell men
    to think of a single situation in their life where:>>>>>> A woman has offered interesting conversation, or>>> A woman has shown remorse (or taken responsibility) for anything she’s done wrong.>>>>>> Women do not have beliefs because they do not have
    convictions. They are not compelled in the way that men are compelled. Therefore, politics are impossible for them to understand or care about, as at least real politics relate to convictions. Most women who talk about politics, you will note, are only
    interested in issues that directly affect their personal lives, such as abortion, or which provide a platform for them to draw attention to themselves and signal their high morality by siding with the establishment (BLM, immigration, gun control, etc.).
    There are some women who go into conservative politics because they realize they can do the same thing – draw attention to themselves.>> I skimmed over the article. I think the author has some valid basic>> observations about the differences in the
    traditional roles of>> male/female in European society but that he magnifies the differences to>> gain a polemic position and then states these magnified differences as>> true in every case in an absolute sense.> Yes. Did you know that Anglin cannot
    enter the US lest he be arrested for skipping town after losing a suit about his encouragement of violence against Jews? He is a mama's boy and a loser. Actions speak louder than words.>>> But enough of that. Let's play around with the idea that women
    basically irresponsible due to the role they see themselves as filling:>> they can, therefore, have no honor as men understand the term. Let's try>> on the idea that de-feminized women--assertive lesbians--exhibit>> some/all of the same motivations
    that men do. That they are therefore>> just as responsible as men, and possibly have honor.>>>> Does it work like that?> Funny, Saw.>> There are plenty of irresponsible men, and plenty of responsible women. Anglin is a pussy and a hypocrite for not
    taking responsibility for his actions. Who cares if he writes well? Where does he post from now, Rwanda?That's all well and good, but the the author mentions a sort of feminization of males in the US--which I agree with--and I'd go a bit farther: in
    feminizing males, the entire culture becomes more feminized simply as a result of the lessening of masculine values in the general society.I'm not taking a stand on this just yet. I have an initial stance, but it's really just reflexive, since I'm a
    traditionalist. I'm trying to test it.But if, for the sake of argument, it's true that males are becoming feminized and in doing so the value of honor and ultimate responsibility (male values, as per the article) are being lessened, would the
    masculinization of females, as per assertive, male role lesbians, mean that the lost masculinity (if this is indeed what's happening) is now being recaptured in masculinized females?I don't care about the author, at all. It's these intriguing
    possibilities that interest me.-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. But give a man a boat,a case of beer, and a few sticks of dynamite..." -- Sawfish



    No as lesbisns are also women. And the worst kind of, rebbeling against natural order, male authority and so on.

    They're not a positive exception, rather horrendous radicals.


    The few exceptions you are looking are highly pious women, who believe in God, who respect traditional society and that equates to women who are submissive to male order.

    E.g. Queen Elisabeth II was ok, because she spent her life trying to be worthy successor to her dad and fullfil her duties in and old system.

    But as author said, they all work to undermine things one way or another.

    Remember during her reign, male primogeniture was abolished. So you'll get a lot more queens there from now on.

    So author is 100% right.





    There's a reason why Jesus had 12 men as his disciples. Men are meant to govern.

    If he had women there as equals, nothing would be done, no ideas would be discussed, nothing would be taught or learnt, spread, all you'd get is sex, quarrels and gossips.

    Excellent post!

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 20 09:45:42 2023
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 22:07:09 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:
    Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    Can you dig it?



    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SnjrcAx9lDQ&t=48s

    great clips :D

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Wed Sep 20 09:42:42 2023
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 21:52:10 UTC+1, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/19/23 10:29 AM, bmoore wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:02:24 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/19/23 9:47 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:56:06 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote: >>>> On 9/19/23 3:09 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 01:36:41 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote: >>>>>> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014Our politicians are really great-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html
    You should read America's greatest journalist and writer on this. >>>>>>
    Andrew Anglin



    https://dailystormer.in/grimy-hoe-lauren-boebert-did-public-dick-stroking-of-a-dude-who-owns-a-faggot-bar/




    Very good article, very good.
    just read this article, yes very well written and interesting! he the best journalist cos he answers to no one and can say anything he likes.

    From my observation, a big part of the reason that so many men have such an inaccurate perception of women is that they are (probably subconsciously) basing their understanding of women in part on female characters in entertainment media. These
    female characters in media are almost always written by men, and men project things onto them. I tell men to think of a single situation in their life where:

    A woman has offered interesting conversation, or
    A woman has shown remorse (or taken responsibility) for anything she’s done wrong.

    Women do not have beliefs because they do not have convictions. They are not compelled in the way that men are compelled. Therefore, politics are impossible for them to understand or care about, as at least real politics relate to convictions.
    Most women who talk about politics, you will note, are only interested in issues that directly affect their personal lives, such as abortion, or which provide a platform for them to draw attention to themselves and signal their high morality by siding
    with the establishment (BLM, immigration, gun control, etc.). There are some women who go into conservative politics because they realize they can do the same thing – draw attention to themselves.
    I skimmed over the article. I think the author has some valid basic >>>> observations about the differences in the traditional roles of
    male/female in European society but that he magnifies the differences to
    gain a polemic position and then states these magnified differences as >>>> true in every case in an absolute sense.
    Yes. Did you know that Anglin cannot enter the US lest he be arrested for skipping town after losing a suit about his encouragement of violence against Jews? He is a mama's boy and a loser. Actions speak louder than words.

    But enough of that. Let's play around with the idea that women are
    basically irresponsible due to the role they see themselves as filling: >>>> they can, therefore, have no honor as men understand the term. Let's try
    on the idea that de-feminized women--assertive lesbians--exhibit
    some/all of the same motivations that men do. That they are therefore >>>> just as responsible as men, and possibly have honor.

    Does it work like that?
    Funny, Saw.

    There are plenty of irresponsible men, and plenty of responsible women. Anglin is a pussy and a hypocrite for not taking responsibility for his actions. Who cares if he writes well? Where does he post from now, Rwanda?
    That's all well and good, but the the author mentions a sort of
    feminization of males in the US--which I agree with--and I'd go a bit
    farther: in feminizing males, the entire culture becomes more feminized >> simply as a result of the lessening of masculine values in the general
    society.

    I'm not taking a stand on this just yet. I have an initial stance, but
    it's really just reflexive, since I'm a traditionalist. I'm trying to
    test it.

    But if, for the sake of argument, it's true that males are becoming
    feminized and in doing so the value of honor and ultimate responsibility >> (male values, as per the article) are being lessened, would the
    masculinization of females, as per assertive, male role lesbians, mean
    that the lost masculinity (if this is indeed what's happening) is now
    being recaptured in masculinized females?

    I don't care about the author, at all. It's these intriguing
    possibilities that interest me.
    OK. But I think responsibility is a human asset, not just a male one. My mother went back to school after we kids got old enough, and her resulting paycheck basically put me through college, minus a few student loans. And I don't think my mother was
    an exception.
    Yes, that's been my experience, too. There are responsible *people* and irresponsible *people*.

    However, traditional patriarchal social organization tend to be self-policing, self-condemning. The patriarchal group strongly
    criticizes lack of honor and shirking of responsibility, but does not
    expect the same *level* of conformity to these high standards for
    females, for the most part.

    If this is accurate, can we say that female hierarchy in this same patriarchal society puts a corresponding amounts of pressure on wayward females as is placed upon wayward males by the patriarchal hierarchy? I think not...

    This is not to say that there is *no* pressure or stigma attached to
    female shortcomings, but until fairly recently, there was no greater
    failure for a married man with children than to not provide for them,
    and to not protect the household, or for that matter, the nation, from existential threat.

    No one expected this from females; they were perceived as the
    comforters, the gentle ones. You can allow them to cry, to show
    weakness, but not for men.

    women are physically weaker as well and isn't it interesting how they still play this up?

    What do you mean by feminization of men? Honest question.
    In general, b, I'd say that the migration away from punishment for
    *clear* transgressions--a paternal stance, traditionally--toward an
    external remediation supplied by a comforting, sympathetic entity--which
    had formerly been a maternal approach--is one sign of a feminization of society as a whole.

    TLDR: men crying openly in public over the smallest petty issues, wearing dresses and being total cowardly wusses, is what we mean by feminization of men!
    Best example I heard is to ask the question "if a guy spat in your wife's face, what would you do?".

    As to individual men, the perception of the "metrosexual" male is what
    I'm talking about. A partner rather than a leader in a domestic relationship, or worse, a cooperative sycophant.

    yes well said.

    OK, this was rhetorically loaded (for effect...), but I do perceive a general retreat from decisive masculine values towards more of a sharing
    and caring response to almost any situation, potentially threatening or otherwise.

    I am viewed as scary and abrupt by some of my daughter's peers. Yet my
    wife does not share this; she says that I fill in the assertiveness that
    she would otherwise be unable to call into play in various instances
    when we have conflict with other interests.

    well for all what they say in public, most women can't stand wussy men like that, they want men to "man up" cos they don't want to be with another woman and they want to be led by a man cos it makes life easier.

    I do not particularly like doing this, but it is in my DNA that *I* will
    be the one to do it as a part of my definitive responsibilities. Just
    like planning our estate, etc. She will contribute nuances, but it's up
    to me to form the main plan and get it rolling. We are both comfortable
    with this, as it reflects the households in which we grew up.We've both
    seen multiple examples of it working very well, and now we are one.

    Can you dig it?

    interestingly, Sawfish, this is what is says a man should be like in the Bible! :D

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Wed Sep 20 09:50:04 2023
    On Wednesday, 20 September 2023 at 00:19:24 UTC+1, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 5:22:35 PM UTC-4, TT wrote:
    Sawfish kirjoitti 20.9.2023 klo 0.04:
    On 9/19/23 12:32 PM, TT wrote:
    jdeluise kirjoitti 19.9.2023 klo 21.37:
    Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> writes:


    That's all well and good, but the the author mentions a sort of
    feminization of males in the US--which I agree with--and I'd go a bit >>>> farther: in feminizing males, the entire culture becomes more
    feminized simply as a result of the lessening of masculine values in >>>> the general society.

    Have women become more or less "feminine", in your estimation?

    Depends on era of comparison.

    There is a funny thing going on, at least to my perception, and in urban western US settings.

    It appears to me that young men (up to mid 30s, anyway) are much less willing to risk approaching females who they find attractive, and this causes a dearth of male attention. In response, young hetero0minded females are dressing and acting more provocatively, in a dolorous attempt to get male attention. This is not working due to two factors:

    1) feminization of young males (watch any TV commercial to spot metrosexuals...)

    2) fear of being accused of improper behavior

    It produces a sort of woeful neurosis in both young urban sexes at this time.

    That's probably true. At least there are studies which say that men
    *are* afraid of being accused of harassment when trying to hit a girl.
    True, girls are the ones that initiate the connection now.

    no they're not. This is more MSM lies, women still hardly ever approach men to start things. The only thing that's changed is Tinder has made confident/reasonable-looking guys able to meet more chicks.

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Wed Sep 20 09:57:15 2023
    On 9/20/23 9:26 AM, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 18:02:24 UTC+1, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/19/23 9:47 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:56:06 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/19/23 3:09 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 01:36:41 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014Our politicians are really great-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html
    You should read America's greatest journalist and writer on this.

    Andrew Anglin



    https://dailystormer.in/grimy-hoe-lauren-boebert-did-public-dick-stroking-of-a-dude-who-owns-a-faggot-bar/




    Very good article, very good.
    just read this article, yes very well written and interesting! he the best journalist cos he answers to no one and can say anything he likes.

    From my observation, a big part of the reason that so many men have such an inaccurate perception of women is that they are (probably subconsciously) basing their understanding of women in part on female characters in entertainment media. These
    female characters in media are almost always written by men, and men project things onto them. I tell men to think of a single situation in their life where:

    A woman has offered interesting conversation, or
    A woman has shown remorse (or taken responsibility) for anything she’s done wrong.

    Women do not have beliefs because they do not have convictions. They are not compelled in the way that men are compelled. Therefore, politics are impossible for them to understand or care about, as at least real politics relate to convictions. Most
    women who talk about politics, you will note, are only interested in issues that directly affect their personal lives, such as abortion, or which provide a platform for them to draw attention to themselves and signal their high morality by siding with
    the establishment (BLM, immigration, gun control, etc.). There are some women who go into conservative politics because they realize they can do the same thing – draw attention to themselves.
    I skimmed over the article. I think the author has some valid basic
    observations about the differences in the traditional roles of
    male/female in European society but that he magnifies the differences to >>>> gain a polemic position and then states these magnified differences as >>>> true in every case in an absolute sense.
    Yes. Did you know that Anglin cannot enter the US lest he be arrested for skipping town after losing a suit about his encouragement of violence against Jews? He is a mama's boy and a loser. Actions speak louder than words.

    But enough of that. Let's play around with the idea that women are
    basically irresponsible due to the role they see themselves as filling: >>>> they can, therefore, have no honor as men understand the term. Let's try >>>> on the idea that de-feminized women--assertive lesbians--exhibit
    some/all of the same motivations that men do. That they are therefore
    just as responsible as men, and possibly have honor.

    Does it work like that?
    Funny, Saw.

    There are plenty of irresponsible men, and plenty of responsible women. Anglin is a pussy and a hypocrite for not taking responsibility for his actions. Who cares if he writes well? Where does he post from now, Rwanda?
    That's all well and good, but the the author mentions a sort of
    feminization of males in the US--which I agree with--and I'd go a bit
    farther: in feminizing males, the entire culture becomes more feminized
    simply as a result of the lessening of masculine values in the general
    society.

    I'm not taking a stand on this just yet. I have an initial stance, but
    it's really just reflexive, since I'm a traditionalist. I'm trying to
    test it.

    But if, for the sake of argument, it's true that males are becoming
    feminized and in doing so the value of honor and ultimate responsibility
    (male values, as per the article) are being lessened, would the
    masculinization of females, as per assertive, male role lesbians, mean
    that the lost masculinity (if this is indeed what's happening) is now
    being recaptured in masculinized females?

    I don't care about the author, at all. It's these intriguing
    possibilities that interest me.
    disagree as no sign/evidence of any of this from lesbians, sure Anglin would say they are regular women and no different at all really, in fact they are possibly even more disloyal as they generally hate men(they think they've been oppressed by men etc)
    and as honor etc. is male they would prob go totally against that.

    Yes.

    On thinking about it a little after I wrote that, I saw male-assertive
    lesbians as cynical caricatures of males. These lesbians really only do
    the surface masculine stuff, and not the deep commitments to protection
    and guidance that traditionalist straight men do.

    And like many homosexuals, they are narcissistic, putting on a public
    show. So it's an act, really.


    --
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "...and your little dog, too!"
    --Sawfish

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  • From gapp111@gmail.com@21:1/5 to bmoore on Wed Sep 20 12:05:18 2023
    On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 2:36:04 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 9:57:18 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/20/23 9:26 AM, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 18:02:24 UTC+1, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/19/23 9:47 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:56:06 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote: >>>> On 9/19/23 3:09 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 01:36:41 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote: >>>>>> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014Our politicians are really great-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html
    You should read America's greatest journalist and writer on this. >>>>>>
    Andrew Anglin



    https://dailystormer.in/grimy-hoe-lauren-boebert-did-public-dick-stroking-of-a-dude-who-owns-a-faggot-bar/




    Very good article, very good.
    just read this article, yes very well written and interesting! he the best journalist cos he answers to no one and can say anything he likes.

    From my observation, a big part of the reason that so many men have such an inaccurate perception of women is that they are (probably subconsciously) basing their understanding of women in part on female characters in entertainment media. These
    female characters in media are almost always written by men, and men project things onto them. I tell men to think of a single situation in their life where:

    A woman has offered interesting conversation, or
    A woman has shown remorse (or taken responsibility) for anything she’s done wrong.

    Women do not have beliefs because they do not have convictions. They are not compelled in the way that men are compelled. Therefore, politics are impossible for them to understand or care about, as at least real politics relate to convictions.
    Most women who talk about politics, you will note, are only interested in issues that directly affect their personal lives, such as abortion, or which provide a platform for them to draw attention to themselves and signal their high morality by siding
    with the establishment (BLM, immigration, gun control, etc.). There are some women who go into conservative politics because they realize they can do the same thing – draw attention to themselves.
    I skimmed over the article. I think the author has some valid basic >>>> observations about the differences in the traditional roles of
    male/female in European society but that he magnifies the differences to
    gain a polemic position and then states these magnified differences as
    true in every case in an absolute sense.
    Yes. Did you know that Anglin cannot enter the US lest he be arrested for skipping town after losing a suit about his encouragement of violence against Jews? He is a mama's boy and a loser. Actions speak louder than words.

    But enough of that. Let's play around with the idea that women are >>>> basically irresponsible due to the role they see themselves as filling:
    they can, therefore, have no honor as men understand the term. Let's try
    on the idea that de-feminized women--assertive lesbians--exhibit
    some/all of the same motivations that men do. That they are therefore >>>> just as responsible as men, and possibly have honor.

    Does it work like that?
    Funny, Saw.

    There are plenty of irresponsible men, and plenty of responsible women. Anglin is a pussy and a hypocrite for not taking responsibility for his actions. Who cares if he writes well? Where does he post from now, Rwanda?
    That's all well and good, but the the author mentions a sort of
    feminization of males in the US--which I agree with--and I'd go a bit >> farther: in feminizing males, the entire culture becomes more feminized >> simply as a result of the lessening of masculine values in the general >> society.

    I'm not taking a stand on this just yet. I have an initial stance, but >> it's really just reflexive, since I'm a traditionalist. I'm trying to >> test it.

    But if, for the sake of argument, it's true that males are becoming
    feminized and in doing so the value of honor and ultimate responsibility
    (male values, as per the article) are being lessened, would the
    masculinization of females, as per assertive, male role lesbians, mean >> that the lost masculinity (if this is indeed what's happening) is now >> being recaptured in masculinized females?

    I don't care about the author, at all. It's these intriguing
    possibilities that interest me.
    disagree as no sign/evidence of any of this from lesbians, sure Anglin would say they are regular women and no different at all really, in fact they are possibly even more disloyal as they generally hate men(they think they've been oppressed by men
    etc) and as honor etc. is male they would prob go totally against that.
    Yes.

    On thinking about it a little after I wrote that, I saw male-assertive lesbians as cynical caricatures of males. These lesbians really only do the surface masculine stuff, and not the deep commitments to protection and guidance that traditionalist straight men do.

    And like many homosexuals, they are narcissistic, putting on a public show. So it's an act, really.
    Yes, much like Iceberg. No, Iceberg, I don't think you're gay, but narcissist, for sure. Ain't no doubt about it.

    Hung up on US politics, right wing trash! Tennis pro ?

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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Wed Sep 20 11:35:59 2023
    On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 9:57:18 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/20/23 9:26 AM, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 18:02:24 UTC+1, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/19/23 9:47 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:56:06 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote: >>>> On 9/19/23 3:09 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 01:36:41 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote: >>>>>> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014Our politicians are really great-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html
    You should read America's greatest journalist and writer on this. >>>>>>
    Andrew Anglin



    https://dailystormer.in/grimy-hoe-lauren-boebert-did-public-dick-stroking-of-a-dude-who-owns-a-faggot-bar/




    Very good article, very good.
    just read this article, yes very well written and interesting! he the best journalist cos he answers to no one and can say anything he likes.

    From my observation, a big part of the reason that so many men have such an inaccurate perception of women is that they are (probably subconsciously) basing their understanding of women in part on female characters in entertainment media. These
    female characters in media are almost always written by men, and men project things onto them. I tell men to think of a single situation in their life where:

    A woman has offered interesting conversation, or
    A woman has shown remorse (or taken responsibility) for anything she’s done wrong.

    Women do not have beliefs because they do not have convictions. They are not compelled in the way that men are compelled. Therefore, politics are impossible for them to understand or care about, as at least real politics relate to convictions.
    Most women who talk about politics, you will note, are only interested in issues that directly affect their personal lives, such as abortion, or which provide a platform for them to draw attention to themselves and signal their high morality by siding
    with the establishment (BLM, immigration, gun control, etc.). There are some women who go into conservative politics because they realize they can do the same thing – draw attention to themselves.
    I skimmed over the article. I think the author has some valid basic >>>> observations about the differences in the traditional roles of
    male/female in European society but that he magnifies the differences to
    gain a polemic position and then states these magnified differences as >>>> true in every case in an absolute sense.
    Yes. Did you know that Anglin cannot enter the US lest he be arrested for skipping town after losing a suit about his encouragement of violence against Jews? He is a mama's boy and a loser. Actions speak louder than words.

    But enough of that. Let's play around with the idea that women are
    basically irresponsible due to the role they see themselves as filling: >>>> they can, therefore, have no honor as men understand the term. Let's try
    on the idea that de-feminized women--assertive lesbians--exhibit
    some/all of the same motivations that men do. That they are therefore >>>> just as responsible as men, and possibly have honor.

    Does it work like that?
    Funny, Saw.

    There are plenty of irresponsible men, and plenty of responsible women. Anglin is a pussy and a hypocrite for not taking responsibility for his actions. Who cares if he writes well? Where does he post from now, Rwanda?
    That's all well and good, but the the author mentions a sort of
    feminization of males in the US--which I agree with--and I'd go a bit
    farther: in feminizing males, the entire culture becomes more feminized >> simply as a result of the lessening of masculine values in the general
    society.

    I'm not taking a stand on this just yet. I have an initial stance, but
    it's really just reflexive, since I'm a traditionalist. I'm trying to
    test it.

    But if, for the sake of argument, it's true that males are becoming
    feminized and in doing so the value of honor and ultimate responsibility >> (male values, as per the article) are being lessened, would the
    masculinization of females, as per assertive, male role lesbians, mean
    that the lost masculinity (if this is indeed what's happening) is now
    being recaptured in masculinized females?

    I don't care about the author, at all. It's these intriguing
    possibilities that interest me.
    disagree as no sign/evidence of any of this from lesbians, sure Anglin would say they are regular women and no different at all really, in fact they are possibly even more disloyal as they generally hate men(they think they've been oppressed by men
    etc) and as honor etc. is male they would prob go totally against that.
    Yes.

    On thinking about it a little after I wrote that, I saw male-assertive lesbians as cynical caricatures of males. These lesbians really only do
    the surface masculine stuff, and not the deep commitments to protection
    and guidance that traditionalist straight men do.

    And like many homosexuals, they are narcissistic, putting on a public
    show. So it's an act, really.

    Yes, much like Iceberg. No, Iceberg, I don't think you're gay, but narcissist, for sure. Ain't no doubt about it.

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to bmoore on Wed Sep 20 13:12:54 2023
    On Wednesday, 20 September 2023 at 19:36:04 UTC+1, bmoore wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 9:57:18 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/20/23 9:26 AM, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 18:02:24 UTC+1, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/19/23 9:47 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:56:06 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote: >>>> On 9/19/23 3:09 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 01:36:41 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote: >>>>>> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014Our politicians are really great-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html
    You should read America's greatest journalist and writer on this. >>>>>>
    Andrew Anglin



    https://dailystormer.in/grimy-hoe-lauren-boebert-did-public-dick-stroking-of-a-dude-who-owns-a-faggot-bar/




    Very good article, very good.
    just read this article, yes very well written and interesting! he the best journalist cos he answers to no one and can say anything he likes.

    From my observation, a big part of the reason that so many men have such an inaccurate perception of women is that they are (probably subconsciously) basing their understanding of women in part on female characters in entertainment media. These
    female characters in media are almost always written by men, and men project things onto them. I tell men to think of a single situation in their life where:

    A woman has offered interesting conversation, or
    A woman has shown remorse (or taken responsibility) for anything she’s done wrong.

    Women do not have beliefs because they do not have convictions. They are not compelled in the way that men are compelled. Therefore, politics are impossible for them to understand or care about, as at least real politics relate to convictions.
    Most women who talk about politics, you will note, are only interested in issues that directly affect their personal lives, such as abortion, or which provide a platform for them to draw attention to themselves and signal their high morality by siding
    with the establishment (BLM, immigration, gun control, etc.). There are some women who go into conservative politics because they realize they can do the same thing – draw attention to themselves.
    I skimmed over the article. I think the author has some valid basic >>>> observations about the differences in the traditional roles of
    male/female in European society but that he magnifies the differences to
    gain a polemic position and then states these magnified differences as
    true in every case in an absolute sense.
    Yes. Did you know that Anglin cannot enter the US lest he be arrested for skipping town after losing a suit about his encouragement of violence against Jews? He is a mama's boy and a loser. Actions speak louder than words.

    But enough of that. Let's play around with the idea that women are >>>> basically irresponsible due to the role they see themselves as filling:
    they can, therefore, have no honor as men understand the term. Let's try
    on the idea that de-feminized women--assertive lesbians--exhibit
    some/all of the same motivations that men do. That they are therefore >>>> just as responsible as men, and possibly have honor.

    Does it work like that?
    Funny, Saw.

    There are plenty of irresponsible men, and plenty of responsible women. Anglin is a pussy and a hypocrite for not taking responsibility for his actions. Who cares if he writes well? Where does he post from now, Rwanda?
    That's all well and good, but the the author mentions a sort of
    feminization of males in the US--which I agree with--and I'd go a bit >> farther: in feminizing males, the entire culture becomes more feminized >> simply as a result of the lessening of masculine values in the general >> society.

    I'm not taking a stand on this just yet. I have an initial stance, but >> it's really just reflexive, since I'm a traditionalist. I'm trying to >> test it.

    But if, for the sake of argument, it's true that males are becoming
    feminized and in doing so the value of honor and ultimate responsibility
    (male values, as per the article) are being lessened, would the
    masculinization of females, as per assertive, male role lesbians, mean >> that the lost masculinity (if this is indeed what's happening) is now >> being recaptured in masculinized females?

    I don't care about the author, at all. It's these intriguing
    possibilities that interest me.
    disagree as no sign/evidence of any of this from lesbians, sure Anglin would say they are regular women and no different at all really, in fact they are possibly even more disloyal as they generally hate men(they think they've been oppressed by men
    etc) and as honor etc. is male they would prob go totally against that.
    Yes.

    On thinking about it a little after I wrote that, I saw male-assertive lesbians as cynical caricatures of males. These lesbians really only do the surface masculine stuff, and not the deep commitments to protection and guidance that traditionalist straight men do.

    And like many homosexuals, they are narcissistic, putting on a public show. So it's an act, really.
    Yes, much like Iceberg. No, Iceberg, I don't think you're gay, but narcissist, for sure. Ain't no doubt about it.

    don't you call everyone who disagrees with your sick Marxism a "narcissist", from Trump to Anglin to Djoker they're all narcissists, according to you, yes? you don't really know what the word means, do you.

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 20 23:20:44 2023
    The Iceberg kirjoitti 20.9.2023 klo 23.12:
    On Wednesday, 20 September 2023 at 19:36:04 UTC+1, bmoore wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 9:57:18 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/20/23 9:26 AM, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 18:02:24 UTC+1, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/19/23 9:47 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:56:06 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote: >>>>>>> On 9/19/23 3:09 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 01:36:41 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote: >>>>>>>>> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014Our politicians are really great-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html
    You should read America's greatest journalist and writer on this. >>>>>>>>>
    Andrew Anglin



    https://dailystormer.in/grimy-hoe-lauren-boebert-did-public-dick-stroking-of-a-dude-who-owns-a-faggot-bar/




    Very good article, very good.
    just read this article, yes very well written and interesting! he the best journalist cos he answers to no one and can say anything he likes.

    From my observation, a big part of the reason that so many men have such an inaccurate perception of women is that they are (probably subconsciously) basing their understanding of women in part on female characters in entertainment media. These
    female characters in media are almost always written by men, and men project things onto them. I tell men to think of a single situation in their life where:

    A woman has offered interesting conversation, or
    A woman has shown remorse (or taken responsibility) for anything she’s done wrong.

    Women do not have beliefs because they do not have convictions. They are not compelled in the way that men are compelled. Therefore, politics are impossible for them to understand or care about, as at least real politics relate to convictions.
    Most women who talk about politics, you will note, are only interested in issues that directly affect their personal lives, such as abortion, or which provide a platform for them to draw attention to themselves and signal their high morality by siding
    with the establishment (BLM, immigration, gun control, etc.). There are some women who go into conservative politics because they realize they can do the same thing – draw attention to themselves.
    I skimmed over the article. I think the author has some valid basic >>>>>>> observations about the differences in the traditional roles of
    male/female in European society but that he magnifies the differences to
    gain a polemic position and then states these magnified differences as >>>>>>> true in every case in an absolute sense.
    Yes. Did you know that Anglin cannot enter the US lest he be arrested for skipping town after losing a suit about his encouragement of violence against Jews? He is a mama's boy and a loser. Actions speak louder than words.

    But enough of that. Let's play around with the idea that women are >>>>>>> basically irresponsible due to the role they see themselves as filling: >>>>>>> they can, therefore, have no honor as men understand the term. Let's try
    on the idea that de-feminized women--assertive lesbians--exhibit >>>>>>> some/all of the same motivations that men do. That they are therefore >>>>>>> just as responsible as men, and possibly have honor.

    Does it work like that?
    Funny, Saw.

    There are plenty of irresponsible men, and plenty of responsible women. Anglin is a pussy and a hypocrite for not taking responsibility for his actions. Who cares if he writes well? Where does he post from now, Rwanda?
    That's all well and good, but the the author mentions a sort of
    feminization of males in the US--which I agree with--and I'd go a bit >>>>> farther: in feminizing males, the entire culture becomes more feminized >>>>> simply as a result of the lessening of masculine values in the general >>>>> society.

    I'm not taking a stand on this just yet. I have an initial stance, but >>>>> it's really just reflexive, since I'm a traditionalist. I'm trying to >>>>> test it.

    But if, for the sake of argument, it's true that males are becoming
    feminized and in doing so the value of honor and ultimate responsibility >>>>> (male values, as per the article) are being lessened, would the
    masculinization of females, as per assertive, male role lesbians, mean >>>>> that the lost masculinity (if this is indeed what's happening) is now >>>>> being recaptured in masculinized females?

    I don't care about the author, at all. It's these intriguing
    possibilities that interest me.
    disagree as no sign/evidence of any of this from lesbians, sure Anglin would say they are regular women and no different at all really, in fact they are possibly even more disloyal as they generally hate men(they think they've been oppressed by men
    etc) and as honor etc. is male they would prob go totally against that.
    Yes.

    On thinking about it a little after I wrote that, I saw male-assertive
    lesbians as cynical caricatures of males. These lesbians really only do
    the surface masculine stuff, and not the deep commitments to protection
    and guidance that traditionalist straight men do.

    And like many homosexuals, they are narcissistic, putting on a public
    show. So it's an act, really.
    Yes, much like Iceberg. No, Iceberg, I don't think you're gay, but narcissist, for sure. Ain't no doubt about it.

    don't you call everyone who disagrees with your sick Marxism a "narcissist", from Trump to Anglin to Djoker they're all narcissists, according to you, yes? you don't really know what the word means, do you.

    You don't think Trump is a narcissist?

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to gap...@gmail.com on Wed Sep 20 13:15:23 2023
    On Wednesday, 20 September 2023 at 20:05:20 UTC+1, gap...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 2:36:04 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 9:57:18 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/20/23 9:26 AM, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 18:02:24 UTC+1, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/19/23 9:47 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:56:06 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote: >>>> On 9/19/23 3:09 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 01:36:41 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote: >>>>>> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014Our politicians are really great-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html
    You should read America's greatest journalist and writer on this. >>>>>>
    Andrew Anglin



    https://dailystormer.in/grimy-hoe-lauren-boebert-did-public-dick-stroking-of-a-dude-who-owns-a-faggot-bar/




    Very good article, very good.
    just read this article, yes very well written and interesting! he the best journalist cos he answers to no one and can say anything he likes.

    From my observation, a big part of the reason that so many men have such an inaccurate perception of women is that they are (probably subconsciously) basing their understanding of women in part on female characters in entertainment media.
    These female characters in media are almost always written by men, and men project things onto them. I tell men to think of a single situation in their life where:

    A woman has offered interesting conversation, or
    A woman has shown remorse (or taken responsibility) for anything she’s done wrong.

    Women do not have beliefs because they do not have convictions. They are not compelled in the way that men are compelled. Therefore, politics are impossible for them to understand or care about, as at least real politics relate to convictions.
    Most women who talk about politics, you will note, are only interested in issues that directly affect their personal lives, such as abortion, or which provide a platform for them to draw attention to themselves and signal their high morality by siding
    with the establishment (BLM, immigration, gun control, etc.). There are some women who go into conservative politics because they realize they can do the same thing – draw attention to themselves.
    I skimmed over the article. I think the author has some valid basic >>>> observations about the differences in the traditional roles of
    male/female in European society but that he magnifies the differences to
    gain a polemic position and then states these magnified differences as
    true in every case in an absolute sense.
    Yes. Did you know that Anglin cannot enter the US lest he be arrested for skipping town after losing a suit about his encouragement of violence against Jews? He is a mama's boy and a loser. Actions speak louder than words.

    But enough of that. Let's play around with the idea that women are >>>> basically irresponsible due to the role they see themselves as filling:
    they can, therefore, have no honor as men understand the term. Let's try
    on the idea that de-feminized women--assertive lesbians--exhibit >>>> some/all of the same motivations that men do. That they are therefore
    just as responsible as men, and possibly have honor.

    Does it work like that?
    Funny, Saw.

    There are plenty of irresponsible men, and plenty of responsible women. Anglin is a pussy and a hypocrite for not taking responsibility for his actions. Who cares if he writes well? Where does he post from now, Rwanda?
    That's all well and good, but the the author mentions a sort of
    feminization of males in the US--which I agree with--and I'd go a bit >> farther: in feminizing males, the entire culture becomes more feminized
    simply as a result of the lessening of masculine values in the general
    society.

    I'm not taking a stand on this just yet. I have an initial stance, but
    it's really just reflexive, since I'm a traditionalist. I'm trying to >> test it.

    But if, for the sake of argument, it's true that males are becoming >> feminized and in doing so the value of honor and ultimate responsibility
    (male values, as per the article) are being lessened, would the
    masculinization of females, as per assertive, male role lesbians, mean
    that the lost masculinity (if this is indeed what's happening) is now >> being recaptured in masculinized females?

    I don't care about the author, at all. It's these intriguing
    possibilities that interest me.
    disagree as no sign/evidence of any of this from lesbians, sure Anglin would say they are regular women and no different at all really, in fact they are possibly even more disloyal as they generally hate men(they think they've been oppressed by
    men etc) and as honor etc. is male they would prob go totally against that.
    Yes.

    On thinking about it a little after I wrote that, I saw male-assertive lesbians as cynical caricatures of males. These lesbians really only do the surface masculine stuff, and not the deep commitments to protection and guidance that traditionalist straight men do.

    And like many homosexuals, they are narcissistic, putting on a public show. So it's an act, really.
    Yes, much like Iceberg. No, Iceberg, I don't think you're gay, but narcissist, for sure. Ain't no doubt about it.
    Hung up on US politics, right wing trash! Tennis pro ?

    way better than left-wing trash like you, why won't you tell us how you get paid by the Democrat Party? come on guppy tell us.

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Wed Sep 20 23:25:21 2023
    The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 18:29:10 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:> Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r > > On 9/19/23 9:47 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:> On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:56:06 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:>> On 9/19/23 3:09
    AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:>>> On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 01:36:41 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:>>>> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>>>> https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014Our politicians are really
    great-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html>>>>>>>> You should read America's greatest journalist and writer on this.>>>>>>>> Andrew Anglin>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://dailystormer.in/grimy-hoe-lauren-
    boebert-did-public-dick-stroking-of-a-dude-who-owns-a-faggot-bar/>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very good article, very good.>>> just read this article, yes very well written and interesting! he the best journalist cos he answers to no one and can say anything he
    likes.>>>>>> From my observation, a big part of the reason that so many men have such an inaccurate perception of women is that they are (probably subconsciously) basing their understanding of women in part on female characters in entertainment media.
    These female characters in media are almost always written by men, and men project things onto them. I tell men to think of a single situation in their life where:>>>>>> A woman has offered interesting conversation, or>>> A woman has shown remorse (or
    taken responsibility) for anything she’s done wrong.>>>>>> Women do not have beliefs because they do not have convictions. They are not compelled in the way that men are compelled. Therefore, politics are impossible for them to understand or care about,
    as at least real politics relate to convictions. Most women who talk about politics, you will note, are only interested in issues that directly affect their personal lives, such as abortion, or which provide a platform for them to draw attention to
    themselves and signal their high morality by siding with the establishment (BLM, immigration, gun control, etc.). There are some women who go into conservative politics because they realize they can do the same thing – draw attention to themselves.>> I
    skimmed over the article. I think the author has some valid basic>> observations about the differences in the traditional roles of>> male/female in European society but that he magnifies the differences to>> gain a polemic position and then states these
    magnified differences as>> true in every case in an absolute sense.> Yes. Did you know that Anglin cannot enter the US lest he be arrested for skipping town after losing a suit about his encouragement of violence against Jews? He is a mama's boy and a
    loser. Actions speak louder than words.>>> But enough of that. Let's play around with the idea that women are>> basically irresponsible due to the role they see themselves as filling:>> they can, therefore, have no honor as men understand the term. Let's
    on the idea that de-feminized women--assertive lesbians--exhibit>> some/all of the same motivations that men do. That they are therefore>> just as responsible as men, and possibly have honor.>>>> Does it work like that?> Funny, Saw.>> There are
    plenty of irresponsible men, and plenty of responsible women. Anglin is a pussy and a hypocrite for not taking responsibility for his actions. Who cares if he writes well? Where does he post from now, Rwanda?That's all well and good, but the the author
    mentions a sort of feminization of males in the US--which I agree with--and I'd go a bit farther: in feminizing males, the entire culture becomes more feminized simply as a result of the lessening of masculine values in the general society.I'm not taking
    a stand on this just yet. I have an initial stance, but it's really just reflexive, since I'm a traditionalist. I'm trying to test it.But if, for the sake of argument, it's true that males are becoming feminized and in doing so the value of honor and
    ultimate responsibility (male values, as per the article) are being lessened, would the masculinization of females, as per assertive, male role lesbians, mean that the lost masculinity (if this is indeed what's happening) is now being recaptured in
    masculinized females?I don't care about the author, at all. It's these intriguing possibilities that interest me.-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. But give a man
    a boat,a case of beer, and a few sticks of dynamite..." -- Sawfish > > > > No as lesbisns are also women. And the worst kind of, rebbeling against natural order, male authority and so on. > > They're not a positive exception, rather horrendous radicals. >
    The few exceptions you are looking are highly pious women, who believe in God, who respect traditional society and that equates to women who are submissive to male order. > > E.g. Queen Elisabeth II was ok, because she spent her life trying to be
    worthy successor to her dad and fullfil her duties in and old system. > > But as author said, they all work to undermine things one way or another. > > Remember during her reign, male primogeniture was abolished. So you'll get a lot more queens there
    from now on. > > So author is 100% right. > > > > > > There's a reason why Jesus had 12 men as his disciples. Men are meant to govern. > > If he had women there as equals, nothing would be done, no ideas would be discussed, nothing would be taught or
    learnt, spread, all you'd get is sex, quarrels and gossips.Excellent post!


    Thank you Sir.
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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Wed Sep 20 18:50:37 2023
    The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Wednesday, 20 September 2023 at 20:05:20 UTC+1, gap...@gmail.com wrote:> On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 2:36:04PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote: > > On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 9:57:18AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote: > > > On 9/20/23 9:26 AM, The
    Iceberg wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 18:02:24 UTC+1, Sawfish wrote: > > > >> On 9/19/23 9:47 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote: > > > >>> On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:56:06AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote: > > > >>>> On 9/19/23 3:09 AM, rec.
    sport.tennis wrote: > > > >>>>> On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 01:36:41 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote: > > > >>>>>> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r > > > >>>>>>> https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014Our
    politicians are really great-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html > > > >>>>>> You should read America's greatest journalist and writer on this. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Andrew Anglin > > > >>>>>
    https://dailystormer.in/grimy-hoe-lauren-boebert-did-public-dick-stroking-of-a-dude-who-owns-a-faggot-bar/ > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Very good article, very good. > > > >>>>>
    just read this article, yes very well written and interesting! he the best journalist cos he answers to no one and can say anything he likes. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> From my observation, a big part of the reason that so many men have such an inaccurate
    perception of women is that they are (probably subconsciously) basing their understanding of women in part on female characters in entertainment media. These female characters in media are almost always written by men, and men project things onto them. I
    tell men to think of a single situation in their life where: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> A woman has offered interesting conversation, or > > > >>>>> A woman has shown remorse (or taken responsibility) for anything shes done wrong. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>
    Women do not have beliefs because they do not have convictions. They are not compelled in the way that men are compelled. Therefore, politics are impossible for them to understand or care about, as at least real politics relate to convictions. Most women
    who talk about politics, you will note, are only interested in issues that directly affect their personal lives, such as abortion, or which provide a platform for them to draw attention to themselves and signal their high morality by siding with the
    establishment (BLM, immigration, gun control, etc.). There are some women who go into conservative politics because they realize they can do the same thing draw attention to themselves. > > > >>>> I skimmed over the article. I think the author has some
    valid basic > > > >>>> observations about the differences in the traditional roles of > > > >>>> male/female in European society but that he magnifies the differences to > > > >>>> gain a polemic position and then states these magnified differences as > >
    true in every case in an absolute sense. > > > >>> Yes. Did you know that Anglin cannot enter the US lest he be arrested for skipping town after losing a suit about his encouragement of violence against Jews? He is a mama's boy and a loser.
    Actions speak louder than words. > > > >>> > > > >>>> But enough of that. Let's play around with the idea that women are > > > >>>> basically irresponsible due to the role they see themselves as filling: > > > >>>> they can, therefore, have no honor as
    men understand the term. Let's try > > > >>>> on the idea that de-feminized women--assertive lesbians--exhibit > > > >>>> some/all of the same motivations that men do. That they are therefore > > > >>>> just as responsible as men, and possibly have honor.
    Does it work like that? > > > >>> Funny, Saw. > > > >>> > > > >>> There are plenty of irresponsible men, and plenty of responsible women. Anglin is a pussy and a hypocrite for not taking responsibility for his actions. Who cares if
    he writes well? Where does he post from now, Rwanda? > > > >> That's all well and good, but the the author mentions a sort of > > > >> feminization of males in the US--which I agree with--and I'd go a bit > > > >> farther: in feminizing males, the entire
    culture becomes more feminized > > > >> simply as a result of the lessening of masculine values in the general > > > >> society. > > > >> > > > >> I'm not taking a stand on this just yet. I have an initial stance, but > > > >> it's really just reflexive,
    since I'm a traditionalist. I'm trying to > > > >> test it. > > > >> > > > >> But if, for the sake of argument, it's true that males are becoming > > > >> feminized and in doing so the value of honor and ultimate responsibility > > > >> (male values, as
    per the article) are being lessened, would the > > > >> masculinization of females, as per assertive, male role lesbians, mean > > > >> that the lost masculinity (if this is indeed what's happening) is now > > > >> being recaptured in masculinized
    females? > > > >> > > > >> I don't care about the author, at all. It's these intriguing > > > >> possibilities that interest me. > > > > disagree as no sign/evidence of any of this from lesbians, sure Anglin would say they are regular women and no
    different at all really, in fact they are possibly even more disloyal as they generally hate men(they think they've been oppressed by men etc) and as honor etc. is male they would prob go totally against that. > > > Yes. > > > > > > On thinking about it
    a little after I wrote that, I saw male-assertive > > > lesbians as cynical caricatures of males. These lesbians really only do > > > the surface masculine stuff, and not the deep commitments to protection > > > and guidance that traditionalist straight
    men do. > > > > > > And like many homosexuals, they are narcissistic, putting on a public > > > show. So it's an act, really. > > Yes, much like Iceberg. No, Iceberg, I don't think you're gay, but narcissist, for sure. Ain't no doubt about it.> Hung up
    on US politics, right wing trash! Tennis pro ?way better than left-wing trash like you, why won't you tell us how you get paid by the Democrat Party? come on guppy tell us.

    C'mon Icy, guppy put more effort into this post, he managed to make it nine words.
    Liberals get him aroused, a feeling he lost ten years ago when Viagra stopped working for him :)

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 21 03:54:14 2023
    On Wednesday, 20 September 2023 at 21:20:45 UTC+1, TT wrote:
    The Iceberg kirjoitti 20.9.2023 klo 23.12:
    On Wednesday, 20 September 2023 at 19:36:04 UTC+1, bmoore wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 9:57:18 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote: >>> On 9/20/23 9:26 AM, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 18:02:24 UTC+1, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/19/23 9:47 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:56:06 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote: >>>>>>> On 9/19/23 3:09 AM, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 01:36:41 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote: >>>>>>>>> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    https://www.tiktok.com/@she_persisted2.0/video/7279426789313908014Our politicians are really great-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html
    You should read America's greatest journalist and writer on this. >>>>>>>>>
    Andrew Anglin



    https://dailystormer.in/grimy-hoe-lauren-boebert-did-public-dick-stroking-of-a-dude-who-owns-a-faggot-bar/




    Very good article, very good.
    just read this article, yes very well written and interesting! he the best journalist cos he answers to no one and can say anything he likes.

    From my observation, a big part of the reason that so many men have such an inaccurate perception of women is that they are (probably subconsciously) basing their understanding of women in part on female characters in entertainment media.
    These female characters in media are almost always written by men, and men project things onto them. I tell men to think of a single situation in their life where:

    A woman has offered interesting conversation, or
    A woman has shown remorse (or taken responsibility) for anything she’s done wrong.

    Women do not have beliefs because they do not have convictions. They are not compelled in the way that men are compelled. Therefore, politics are impossible for them to understand or care about, as at least real politics relate to convictions.
    Most women who talk about politics, you will note, are only interested in issues that directly affect their personal lives, such as abortion, or which provide a platform for them to draw attention to themselves and signal their high morality by siding
    with the establishment (BLM, immigration, gun control, etc.). There are some women who go into conservative politics because they realize they can do the same thing – draw attention to themselves.
    I skimmed over the article. I think the author has some valid basic >>>>>>> observations about the differences in the traditional roles of >>>>>>> male/female in European society but that he magnifies the differences to
    gain a polemic position and then states these magnified differences as
    true in every case in an absolute sense.
    Yes. Did you know that Anglin cannot enter the US lest he be arrested for skipping town after losing a suit about his encouragement of violence against Jews? He is a mama's boy and a loser. Actions speak louder than words.

    But enough of that. Let's play around with the idea that women are >>>>>>> basically irresponsible due to the role they see themselves as filling:
    they can, therefore, have no honor as men understand the term. Let's try
    on the idea that de-feminized women--assertive lesbians--exhibit >>>>>>> some/all of the same motivations that men do. That they are therefore
    just as responsible as men, and possibly have honor.

    Does it work like that?
    Funny, Saw.

    There are plenty of irresponsible men, and plenty of responsible women. Anglin is a pussy and a hypocrite for not taking responsibility for his actions. Who cares if he writes well? Where does he post from now, Rwanda?
    That's all well and good, but the the author mentions a sort of
    feminization of males in the US--which I agree with--and I'd go a bit >>>>> farther: in feminizing males, the entire culture becomes more feminized
    simply as a result of the lessening of masculine values in the general >>>>> society.

    I'm not taking a stand on this just yet. I have an initial stance, but >>>>> it's really just reflexive, since I'm a traditionalist. I'm trying to >>>>> test it.

    But if, for the sake of argument, it's true that males are becoming >>>>> feminized and in doing so the value of honor and ultimate responsibility
    (male values, as per the article) are being lessened, would the
    masculinization of females, as per assertive, male role lesbians, mean >>>>> that the lost masculinity (if this is indeed what's happening) is now >>>>> being recaptured in masculinized females?

    I don't care about the author, at all. It's these intriguing
    possibilities that interest me.
    disagree as no sign/evidence of any of this from lesbians, sure Anglin would say they are regular women and no different at all really, in fact they are possibly even more disloyal as they generally hate men(they think they've been oppressed by
    men etc) and as honor etc. is male they would prob go totally against that.
    Yes.

    On thinking about it a little after I wrote that, I saw male-assertive >>> lesbians as cynical caricatures of males. These lesbians really only do >>> the surface masculine stuff, and not the deep commitments to protection >>> and guidance that traditionalist straight men do.

    And like many homosexuals, they are narcissistic, putting on a public >>> show. So it's an act, really.
    Yes, much like Iceberg. No, Iceberg, I don't think you're gay, but narcissist, for sure. Ain't no doubt about it.

    don't you call everyone who disagrees with your sick Marxism a "narcissist", from Trump to Anglin to Djoker they're all narcissists, according to you, yes? you don't really know what the word means, do you.
    You don't think Trump is a narcissist?

    please define for us what a narcissist is and will tell you whether Trump is one or not, along with some other folks think match the trait.

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  • From Gracchus@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Thu Sep 21 10:09:19 2023
    On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 9:20:43 AM UTC-7, jdeluise wrote:
    bmoore <bmo...@nyx.net> writes:

    Yes, much like Iceberg. No, Iceberg, I don't think you're gay, but narcissist, for sure. Ain't no doubt about it.

    He's not gay??!

    Any guy with a cat likes pussy.

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  • From jdeluise@21:1/5 to bmoore on Thu Sep 21 08:20:32 2023
    bmoore <bmoore@nyx.net> writes:


    Yes, much like Iceberg. No, Iceberg, I don't think you're gay, but narcissist, for sure. Ain't no doubt about it.

    He's not gay??!

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 21 20:19:53 2023
    Gracchus kirjoitti 21.9.2023 klo 20.09:
    On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 9:20:43 AM UTC-7, jdeluise wrote:
    bmoore <bmo...@nyx.net> writes:

    Yes, much like Iceberg. No, Iceberg, I don't think you're gay, but
    narcissist, for sure. Ain't no doubt about it.

    He's not gay??!

    Any guy with a cat likes pussy.

    Hahaha
    True that

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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Thu Sep 21 16:09:12 2023
    On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 9:20:43 AM UTC-7, jdeluise wrote:
    bmoore <bmo...@nyx.net> writes:


    Yes, much like Iceberg. No, Iceberg, I don't think you're gay, but narcissist, for sure. Ain't no doubt about it.
    He's not gay??!

    In the closet? Hmm.

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to bmoore on Fri Sep 22 07:13:44 2023
    On Friday, 22 September 2023 at 00:09:14 UTC+1, bmoore wrote:
    On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 9:20:43 AM UTC-7, jdeluise wrote:
    bmoore <bmo...@nyx.net> writes:


    Yes, much like Iceberg. No, Iceberg, I don't think you're gay, but narcissist, for sure. Ain't no doubt about it.
    He's not gay??!
    In the closet? Hmm.

    is that cos I don't fancy the dream "woman" of you two? HAAHHAHAHAHAHHHA https://e3.365dm.com/21/03/2048x1152/skynews-rachel-levine_5316866.jpg

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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Fri Sep 22 08:08:29 2023
    On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 7:13:47 AM UTC-7, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Friday, 22 September 2023 at 00:09:14 UTC+1, bmoore wrote:
    On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 9:20:43 AM UTC-7, jdeluise wrote:
    bmoore <bmo...@nyx.net> writes:


    Yes, much like Iceberg. No, Iceberg, I don't think you're gay, but narcissist, for sure. Ain't no doubt about it.
    He's not gay??!
    In the closet? Hmm.
    is that cos I don't fancy the dream "woman" of you two? HAAHHAHAHAHAHHHA https://e3.365dm.com/21/03/2048x1152/skynews-rachel-levine_5316866.jpg

    Clever.

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Fri Sep 22 09:18:39 2023
    On 9/22/23 7:13 AM, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Friday, 22 September 2023 at 00:09:14 UTC+1, bmoore wrote:
    On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 9:20:43 AM UTC-7, jdeluise wrote:
    bmoore <bmo...@nyx.net> writes:

    Yes, much like Iceberg. No, Iceberg, I don't think you're gay, but
    narcissist, for sure. Ain't no doubt about it.
    He's not gay??!
    In the closet? Hmm.
    is that cos I don't fancy the dream "woman" of you two? HAAHHAHAHAHAHHHA https://e3.365dm.com/21/03/2048x1152/skynews-rachel-levine_5316866.jpg

    Sweet Jesus!

    Have a heart, Ice. Don't show me things like that...

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  • From jdeluise@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Fri Sep 22 10:06:51 2023
    The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com> writes:



    is that cos I don't fancy the dream "woman" of you two?
    HAAHHAHAHAHAHHHA https://e3.365dm.com/21/03/2048x1152/skynews-rachel-levine_5316866.jpg

    You've been posting this pic a lot. Is Rachel your type? Whatever
    floats your boat!

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