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  • People are so ungrateful

    From *skriptis@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 14 10:05:40 2023
    Take fedfuckers for example.


    Instead of being happy and content that Djokovic didn't win Grand Slam they're moaning and bitching about him winning USO and extending his lead with 24th ITF Official championships title.

    And then even more bizarrely, they act as if he didn't deserve it, or had a weak opponent?


    Guys, I mean fedfuckers.

    Medvedev (Medved=Bear, Medvedev=Bears) is a former #1 guy, guy who made 5 HC slam finals, and he's bound to make more of them so I doubt he'll stay at 5.

    For your information, legends such as Sampras made 11 HC slam finals, Agassi 10.



    OTOH Medvedev's 5 HC slam finals is already more than Roddick (2), Hewitt (3), Gonzales (1), Baghdatis (1), Čilić (2) or Safin (4) achieved, and those are guys against whom Federer won 6 out of 11 of his HC slam titles.



    Federer himself is 2 out of 4 in HC slam finals against Djokovic/Nadal, but we're supposed to think Medvedev is an absolute clown because he's 1 out of 5 against Djokovic and Nadal?

    Sorry, but no.

    It is kinda similar to Hazelwood fuming after Nadal beat Almagro 61 61 61 at 2008 FO QF, saying Almagro was bending over to a fellow Spaniard.

    Federer then lost 61 63 60 in the final.


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  • From RzR@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 14 12:08:42 2023
    On 9/14/2023 11:05 AM, *skriptis wrote:

    Take fedfuckers for example.


    ok then noletard :D

    Instead of being happy and content that Djokovic didn't win Grand Slam they're moaning and bitching about him winning USO and extending his lead with 24th ITF Official championships title.

    And then even more bizarrely, they act as if he didn't deserve it, or had a weak opponent?


    Guys, I mean fedfuckers.

    Medvedev (Medved=Bear, Medvedev=Bears) is a former #1 guy, guy who made 5 HC slam finals, and he's bound to make more of them so I doubt he'll stay at 5.

    For your information, legends such as Sampras made 11 HC slam finals, Agassi 10.



    OTOH Medvedev's 5 HC slam finals is already more than Roddick (2), Hewitt (3), Gonzales (1), Baghdatis (1), Čilić (2) or Safin (4) achieved, and those are guys against whom Federer won 6 out of 11 of his HC slam titles.



    Federer himself is 2 out of 4 in HC slam finals against Djokovic/Nadal, but we're supposed to think Medvedev is an absolute clown because he's 1 out of 5 against Djokovic and Nadal?

    Sorry, but no.

    It is kinda similar to Hazelwood fuming after Nadal beat Almagro 61 61 61 at 2008 FO QF, saying Almagro was bending over to a fellow Spaniard.

    Federer then lost 61 63 60 in the final.



    blablabla...today's Novak opponents is like we would say in croatia...KAMILICA...or chamomile...soft, soothing...this is the biggest
    clown era ever...freaking draw for Nole was easiest since 1968 or something...also, Novak's best will never be better than Federer's
    best...and as far as the aesthetics goes...bwahaha...Novak is not even
    top 20 all time...

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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to skriptis@post.t-com.hr on Thu Sep 14 08:45:11 2023
    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r
    Take fedfuckers for example.Instead of being happy and content that Djokovic didn't win Grand Slam they're moaning and bitching about him winning USO and extending his lead with 24th ITF Official championships title.And then even more bizarrely, they
    act as if he didn't deserve it, or had a weak opponent?Guys, I mean fedfuckers.Medvedev (Medved=Bear, Medvedev=Bears) is a former #1 guy, guy who made 5 HC slam finals, and he's bound to make more of them so I doubt he'll stay at 5.For your information,
    legends such as Sampras made 11 HC slam finals, Agassi 10.OTOH Medvedev's 5 HC slam finals is already more than Roddick (2), Hewitt (3), Gonzales (1), Baghdatis (1), ili (2) or Safin (4) achieved, and those are guys against whom Federer won 6 out of 11
    of his HC slam titles.Federer himself is 2 out of 4 in HC slam finals against Djokovic/Nadal, but we're supposed to think Medvedev is an absolute clown because he's 1 out of 5 against Djokovic and Nadal?Sorry, but no.It is kinda similar to Hazelwood
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    https://www.atptour.com/en/players/atp-head-2-head/andy-roddick-vs-novak-djokovic/r485/d643

    Remember your buddy Whisper said Roddick is Sampras on steroids.

    This is why he was in three Wimbledon finals as well while Medvedev has been useless there.






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  • From MBDunc@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 14 05:45:36 2023
    On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 11:05:44 AM UTC+3, *skriptis wrote:
    Medvedev (Medved=Bear, Medvedev=Bears) is a former #1 guy, guy who made 5 HC slam finals, and he's bound to make more of them so I doubt he'll stay at 5.

    Yep.

    Meds has proven he can on hc go deep with the best. Even winning some. Starting with USO title, YEC title, tons of lesser titles. And was #1 also.

    I think this USO 2023 was closer affair than the scoreline was, but as like in FO 2023 Alcaraz match - Djoker was just superb sharp and efficient. Anything less and it would have been totally different story. (e.g. Djoker was not that sharp at Wimb final
    2023, but having this sharpest form is helluva task day-in, day-out)

    .mikko

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Thu Sep 14 14:53:18 2023
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    https://www.atptour.com/en/players/atp-head-2-head/andy-roddick-vs-novak-djokovic/r485/d643Remember your buddy Whisper said Roddick is Sampras on steroids.This is why he was in three Wimbledon finals as well while Medvedev has been useless there.


    But this was US Open, not Wimbledon. Why mention Wimbledon?

    Medvedev was in 5 HC slam finals, Roddick is at 2, Čilić at 2, Baghdatis and Gonzalez at 1, Hewitt at 3, even mighty Safin is only at 4 etc.

    So Medvedev can't be worse than those guys.



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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 14 06:17:38 2023
    On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 8:53:21 AM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    https://www.atptour.com/en/players/atp-head-2-head/andy-roddick-vs-novak-djokovic/r485/d643Remember your buddy Whisper said Roddick is Sampras on steroids.This is why he was in three Wimbledon finals as well while Medvedev has been useless there.


    But this was US Open, not Wimbledon. Why mention Wimbledon?

    Medvedev was in 5 HC slam finals, Roddick is at 2, Čilić at 2, Baghdatis and Gonzalez at 1, Hewitt at 3, even mighty Safin is only at 4 etc.

    So Medvedev can't be worse than those guys.



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    Skriptis, you mentioned these players and compared them to Medvedev as if they are worse opponents, and I highlighted the fact that Roddick has winning h2h against Novak plus they are more versatile being able to reach finals on other surfaces and win
    them as well.

    Also, no one said anything about medvedev, if someone said something it must have been on Djok's draw.

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Thu Sep 14 15:31:09 2023
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    Skriptis, you mentioned these players and compared them to Medvedev as if they are worse opponents, and I highlighted the fact that Roddick has winning h2h against Novak plus they are more versatile being able to reach finals on other surfaces and win
    them as well.


    Others have winning h2h against Djokovic too. Roddick played baby Djokovic. Not really relevant.

    Hasn't Rafter led Federer in h2h?
    You see how it goes.


    Also Medvedev is sufficiently versatile won titles on all surfaces. And his 5 HC slam finals is not everything, he's still an active player.

    But. You see what you want to see.



    Also, no one said anything about medvedev, if someone said something it must have been on Djok's draw.


    Djokovic was in 36 slam finals, he got his fair share of difficult and easy draws over the years.

    I'd say overall he was unlucky. Why did he get easy USO draw in 2023 and not in 2021?

    Bad luck that it wasn't the other way around. I'd gladly take difficult draw this year in exchange for an easy one 2 years ago.





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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 14 06:44:36 2023
    On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 9:31:12 AM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    Skriptis, you mentioned these players and compared them to Medvedev as if they are worse opponents, and I highlighted the fact that Roddick has winning h2h against Novak plus they are more versatile being able to reach finals on other surfaces and
    win them as well.
    Others have winning h2h against Djokovic too. Roddick played baby Djokovic. Not really relevant.

    Hasn't Rafter led Federer in h2h?
    You see how it goes.


    Also Medvedev is sufficiently versatile won titles on all surfaces. And his 5 HC slam finals is not everything, he's still an active player.

    But. You see what you want to see.

    It goes both ways.


    Also, no one said anything about medvedev, if someone said something it must have been on Djok's draw.
    Djokovic was in 36 slam finals, he got his fair share of difficult and easy draws over the years.

    I'd say overall he was unlucky. Why did he get easy USO draw in 2023 and not in 2021?

    Bad luck that it wasn't the other way around. I'd gladly take difficult draw this year in exchange for an easy one 2 years ago.
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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 15 00:38:19 2023
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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Fri Sep 15 00:50:45 2023
    On 14/09/2023 11:17 pm, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 8:53:21 AM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    https://www.atptour.com/en/players/atp-head-2-head/andy-roddick-vs-novak-djokovic/r485/d643Remember your buddy Whisper said Roddick is Sampras on steroids.This is why he was in three Wimbledon finals as well while Medvedev has been useless there.


    But this was US Open, not Wimbledon. Why mention Wimbledon?

    Medvedev was in 5 HC slam finals, Roddick is at 2, Čilić at 2, Baghdatis and Gonzalez at 1, Hewitt at 3, even mighty Safin is only at 4 etc.

    So Medvedev can't be worse than those guys.



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    Skriptis, you mentioned these players and compared them to Medvedev as if they are worse opponents, and I highlighted the fact that Roddick has winning h2h against Novak plus they are more versatile being able to reach finals on other surfaces and win
    them as well.

    Also, no one said anything about medvedev, if someone said something it must have been on Djok's draw.


    You forgot to mention Rafter has 3-0 h2h v Federer. Maybe you didn't know?

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  • From MBDunc@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 14 07:56:53 2023
    On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 4:31:12 PM UTC+3, *skriptis wrote:
    Others have winning h2h against Djokovic too. Roddick played baby Djokovic. Not really relevant.

    Hasn't Rafter led Federer in h2h?
    You see how it goes.

    Early h2h:s mean nil. Or are just niche stats.

    Nastase was 11-1 over Connors at some point.
    Chang was 5-0 over Sampras at some point.
    Connors was 6-1 over Borg at some point.

    Evidencea:
    Sampras turned stats vs Chang 12-8
    Borg turned stats vs Connors 15-8

    .mikko

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  • From Eshita Islam@21:1/5 to MBDunc on Sat Sep 16 07:08:27 2023
    On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 7:56:55 AM UTC-7, MBDunc wrote:
    On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 4:31:12 PM UTC+3, *skriptis wrote:
    Others have winning h2h against Djokovic too. Roddick played baby Djokovic. Not really relevant.

    Hasn't Rafter led Federer in h2h?
    You see how it goes.
    Early h2h:s mean nil. Or are just niche stats.

    Nastase was 11-1 over Connors at some point.
    Chang was 5-0 over Sampras at some point.
    Connors was 6-1 over Borg at some point.

    Evidencea:
    Sampras turned stats vs Chang 12-8
    Borg turned stats vs Connors 15-8

    .mikko

    LOL - that's what I call a slam dunk of Whisper by Mikko. But its so common, that Whisper has gotten immune to it...

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