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On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 2:47:36PM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:> And get easy reply, why does he keep going for backhand cross courts instead of dtl in open court either with his backhand or as winner with his forehand? > > Medved is playing bad

today. About a -12.

I remember how Federer dismissed him in str8 sets in Miami 2019. I believe it was like three breaks of serve and Federer didn't allow him to get into any rallies.

But who knows, Saba looked like she is winning the title yesterday without any resistance.
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And get easy reply, why does he keep going for backhand cross courts instead of dtl in open court either with his backhand or as winner with his forehand?

Medved is playing bad today.
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And get easy reply, why does he keep going for backhand cross courts instead of dtl in open court either with his backhand or as winner with his forehand?Medved is playing bad today.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.

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It's one of the worst tennis matches I had to watch as a person that plays tennis.

How would I expect myself to break my opponent without attacking his serve specially his second serve. Medved never did standing back in Rome.

When someone keeps serving to me wide to volley the ball in empty court or simply win the point because I stand far back, what would I change? Of course come closer to cut the angle specially on many of these important points.

I expect myself to take chances and go for winners, he never did.

It's sad he took out Alcaraz.

It's an empty field against Djokovic with Alcaraz trying to establish himself.


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On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 5:12:16 PM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:

It's one of the worst tennis matches I had to watch as a person that plays tennis.

How would I expect myself to break my opponent without attacking his serve specially his second serve. Medved never did standing back in Rome.

When someone keeps serving to me wide to volley the ball in empty court or simply win the point because I stand far back, what would I change? Of course come closer to cut the angle specially on many of these important points.

I expect myself to take chances and go for winners, he never did.

It's sad he took out Alcaraz.

It's an empty field against Djokovic with Alcaraz trying to establish himself.
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I get it that you are upset that Djok won. But I didn't think the match was as bad as you and other folks here think. The second and third sets were good quality with lots of long rallies that gassed both players. Plus you should be happy that Djok
played so many S/V points (and won a lot of them). He hit some solid and tough volleys. It was good to see.

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Shakes <kvcshake@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 5:12:16 PM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:> > It's one of the worst tennis matches I had to watch as a person that plays tennis. > > How would I expect myself to break my opponent without attacking his serve specially his

second serve. Medved never did standing back in Rome. > > When someone keeps serving to me wide to volley the ball in empty court or simply win the point because I stand far back, what would I change? Of course come closer to cut the angle specially on
many of these important points. > > I expect myself to take chances and go for winners, he never did. > > It's sad he took out Alcaraz. > > It's an empty field against Djokovic with Alcaraz trying to establish himself.> -- > I get it that you are upset
that Djok won. But I didn't think the match was as bad as you and other folks here think. The second and third sets were good quality with lots of long rallies that gassed both players. Plus you should be happy that Djok played so many S/V points (and
won a lot of them). He hit some solid and tough volleys. It was good to see.



He's raving about couple of those s/v points that Djokovic won when serving out wide on deuce side with Medvedev staying way back. They seemed like freebies.

But overall I thought Medvedev neutralised Djokovic's serve.

Maybe he as a hater feels Medvedev "gifted" too many points on that side, but OTOH Djokovic hit few aces and few unreturnables so I feel "Djokovic struggled" on serve tnx to Medvedev to an extent as well and his decision to move back and return a lot.

Perspective I guess.
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PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:

It's one of the worst tennis matches I had to watch as a person that
plays tennis.

How would I expect myself to break my opponent without attacking his
serve specially his second serve. Medved never did standing back in
Rome.

When someone keeps serving to me wide to volley the ball in empty
court or simply win the point because I stand far back, what would I
change? Of course come closer to cut the angle specially on many of
these important points.

I expect myself to take chances and go for winners, he never did.

It's sad he took out Alcaraz.

It's an empty field against Djokovic with Alcaraz trying to establish himself.

Damn, if only we could have sent you out there. Djok wouldn't have had a chance!

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On 11/09/2023 01:37, jdeluise wrote:

PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:

It's one of the worst tennis matches I had to watch as a person that
plays tennis.

How would I expect myself to break my opponent without attacking his
serve specially his second serve. Medved never did standing back in
Rome.

When someone keeps serving to me wide to volley the ball in empty
court or simply win the point because I stand far back, what would I
change? Of course come closer to cut the angle specially on many of
these important points.

I expect myself to take chances and go for winners, he never did.

It's sad he took out Alcaraz.

It's an empty field against Djokovic with Alcaraz trying to establish
himself.

Damn, if only we could have sent you out there. Djok wouldn't have had a chance!

Reminds me of the start of this vid, lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTNMe3oWND4

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Shakes <kvcshake@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 5:12:16PM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:> > It's one of the worst tennis matches I had to watch as a person that plays tennis. > > How would I expect myself to break my opponent without attacking his serve specially his

second serve. Medved never did standing back in Rome. > > When someone keeps serving to me wide to volley the ball in empty court or simply win the point because I stand far back, what would I change? Of course come closer to cut the angle specially on
many of these important points. > > I expect myself to take chances and go for winners, he never did. > > It's sad he took out Alcaraz. > > It's an empty field against Djokovic with Alcaraz trying to establish himself.> -- > I get it that you are upset
that Djok won. But I didn't think the match was as bad as you and other folks here think. The second and third sets were good quality with lots of long rallies that gassed both players. Plus you should be happy that Djok played so many S/V points (and
won a lot of them). He hit some solid and tough volleys. It was good to see.

No it wasn't a good match. Seeing the technical and tennis mind deficiencies makes it very bad for me.
At least you need to try to force your will to win.
Please tell me what Medved strategy was to win.
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jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:>> It's one of the worst tennis matches I had to watch as a person that> plays tennis.>> How would I expect myself to break my opponent without attacking his> serve specially his second serve. Medved never

did standing back in> Rome.>> When someone keeps serving to me wide to volley the ball in empty> court or simply win the point because I stand far back, what would I> change? Of course come closer to cut the angle specially on many of> these important
points.>> I expect myself to take chances and go for winners, he never did.>> It's sad he took out Alcaraz.>> It's an empty field against Djokovic with Alcaraz trying to establish> himself.Damn, if only we could have sent you out there. Djok wouldn't
have had achance!

You can argue your my points otherwise your post is useless.
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On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 5:43:01 PM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:

Shakes <kvcs...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

I get it that you are upset that Djok won. But I didn't think the match was as bad as you and other folks here think. The second and third sets were good quality with lots of long rallies that gassed both players. Plus you should be happy that Djok

played so many S/V points (and won a lot of them). He hit some solid and tough volleys. It was good to see.

No it wasn't a good match. Seeing the technical and tennis mind deficiencies makes it very bad for me.
At least you need to try to force your will to win.
Please tell me what Medved strategy was to win.
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The way I saw it, Med played the way he knows how to play. It's not like he threw in the towel or imploded (like Ivanisevic etc.). About changing of strategy, I can see your point but I don't think it's unique to Med. FWIW, the same can be said of
Alcaraz in the SF. He continued to serve wide to the FH even after Med made adjustments to the return position. I guess that is a drawback of the players relying on their coaches advice coming from the stands rather than thinking for themselves.

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On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:12:16 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:

PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

And get easy reply, why does he keep going for backhand cross courts instead of dtl in open court either with his backhand or as winner with his forehand?Medved is playing bad today.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.

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It's one of the worst tennis matches I had to watch as a person that plays tennis.

How would I expect myself to break my opponent without attacking his serve specially his second serve. Medved never did standing back in Rome.

When someone keeps serving to me wide to volley the ball in empty court or simply win the point because I stand far back, what would I change? Of course come closer to cut the angle specially on many of these important points.

I expect myself to take chances and go for winners, he never did.

It's sad he took out Alcaraz.

It's an empty field against Djokovic with Alcaraz trying to establish himself.

Alcaraz would have lost too. I'm 80% sure.

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On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 6:08:17 PM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:12:16 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:

PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

And get easy reply, why does he keep going for backhand cross courts instead of dtl in open court either with his backhand or as winner with his forehand?Medved is playing bad today.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.

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It's one of the worst tennis matches I had to watch as a person that plays tennis.

How would I expect myself to break my opponent without attacking his serve specially his second serve. Medved never did standing back in Rome.

When someone keeps serving to me wide to volley the ball in empty court or simply win the point because I stand far back, what would I change? Of course come closer to cut the angle specially on many of these important points.

I expect myself to take chances and go for winners, he never did.

It's sad he took out Alcaraz.

It's an empty field against Djokovic with Alcaraz trying to establish himself.

Alcaraz would have lost too. I'm 80% sure.

Probably so. Certainly if he'd played the way he did against Medvedev, which was like Alcaraz regressing to an earlier stage of experience. Very disappointing.

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On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 9:13:22 PM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 6:08:17 PM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:12:16 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:

PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

And get easy reply, why does he keep going for backhand cross courts instead of dtl in open court either with his backhand or as winner with his forehand?Medved is playing bad today.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.

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It's one of the worst tennis matches I had to watch as a person that plays tennis.

How would I expect myself to break my opponent without attacking his serve specially his second serve. Medved never did standing back in Rome.

When someone keeps serving to me wide to volley the ball in empty court or simply win the point because I stand far back, what would I change? Of course come closer to cut the angle specially on many of these important points.

I expect myself to take chances and go for winners, he never did.

It's sad he took out Alcaraz.

It's an empty field against Djokovic with Alcaraz trying to establish himself.

Alcaraz would have lost too. I'm 80% sure.

Probably so. Certainly if he'd played the way he did against Medvedev, which was like Alcaraz regressing to an earlier stage of experience. Very disappointing.

It's just the way it is. If Federer and Nadal had trouble beating Djokovic at slams(for Nadal off clay) the past decade, how are lesser players supposed to do it? Djokovic IS better. There's no other explanation that makes sense at this point. Excuses
and fake narratives from rival fanbases are meaningless. Djokovic has the credentials.

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grif <griffin_230@hotmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On 11/09/2023 01:37, jdeluise wrote:> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:> >>>> It's one of the worst tennis matches I had to watch as a person that>> plays tennis.>>>> How would I expect myself to break my opponent without attacking his>>

serve specially his second serve. Medved never did standing back in>> Rome.>>>> When someone keeps serving to me wide to volley the ball in empty>> court or simply win the point because I stand far back, what would I>> change? Of course come closer to
cut the angle specially on many of>> these important points.>>>> I expect myself to take chances and go for winners, he never did.>>>> It's sad he took out Alcaraz.>>>> It's an empty field against Djokovic with Alcaraz trying to establish>> himself.> >
Damn, if only we could have sent you out there. Djok wouldn't have had a> chance!Reminds me of the start of this vid, lol.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTNMe3oWND4

I didn't say I will beat djokovic, I was giving my thoughts about what I observed the entire match.
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Shakes <kvcshake@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 5:43:01PM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Shakes <kvcs...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r> > I get it that you are upset that Djok won. But I didn't think the match was as bad as you and other folks here think. The second

and third sets were good quality with lots of long rallies that gassed both players. Plus you should be happy that Djok played so many S/V points (and won a lot of them). He hit some solid and tough volleys. It was good to see.> No it wasn't a good match.
Seeing the technical and tennis mind deficiencies makes it very bad for me. > At least you need to try to force your will to win. > Please tell me what Medved strategy was to win.> -- > The way I saw it, Med played the way he knows how to play. It's not
like he threw in the towel or imploded (like Ivanisevic etc.). About changing of strategy, I can see your point but I don't think it's unique to Med. FWIW, the same can be said of Alcaraz in the SF. He continued to serve wide to the FH even after Med
made adjustments to the return position. I guess that is a drawback of the players relying on their coaches advice coming from the stands rather than thinking for themselves.

Alcaraz did try to change things to some extent, but he got frustrated as we saw.
He is just 20 as we know.

Medved is 26 and has been out there much longer and should have understood better what is happening on court.

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Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:r

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:44:18PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> jdeluise <jdel...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r > > PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> writes:>> It's one of the worst tennis matches I had to watch as a person that> plays tennis.>
How would I expect myself to break my opponent without attacking his> serve specially his second serve. Medved never did standing back in> Rome.>> When someone keeps serving to me wide to volley the ball in empty> court or simply win the point because

I stand far back, what would I> change? Of course come closer to cut the angle specially on many of> these important points.>> I expect myself to take chances and go for winners, he never did.>> It's sad he took out Alcaraz.>> It's an empty field against
Djokovic with Alcaraz trying to establish> himself.Damn, if only we could have sent you out there. Djok wouldn't have had achance! > > You can argue your my points otherwise your post is useless.> -- > > > ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- > https://
piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlDjokovic is greater than Federer and Nadal. He's a genetic freak of nature and his discipline is second to none. Just accept it and get over it already! To try and argue against it at the point is
asinine. What more does Djokovic have to do to convince you? Yes, he isn't polished like Federer. What can you do? That's life.

What does this have to do with what I am discussing?

How many times do you have to repeat your usual statement in every rst thread?

Let's make an agreement, would you promise to stop repeating this non-stop in every thread, If I decided to agree with you?
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On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 6:44:27 PM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:

grif <griff...@hotmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On 11/09/2023 01:37, jdeluise wrote:> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> writes:> >>>> It's one of the worst tennis matches I had to watch as a person that>> plays tennis.>>>> How would I expect myself to break my opponent without attacking his>>

serve specially his second serve. Medved never did standing back in>> Rome.>>>> When someone keeps serving to me wide to volley the ball in empty>> court or simply win the point because I stand far back, what would I>> change? Of course come closer to
cut the angle specially on many of>> these important points.>>>> I expect myself to take chances and go for winners, he never did.>>>> It's sad he took out Alcaraz.>>>> It's an empty field against Djokovic with Alcaraz trying to establish>> himself.> >
Damn, if only we could have sent you out there. Djok wouldn't have had a> chance!Reminds me of the start of this vid, lol.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTNMe3oWND4

I didn't say I will beat djokovic, I was giving my thoughts about what I observed the entire match.

You won't? Well who else will do it then? Our hopes were hanging on you.

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Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 6:44:27PM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:> grif <griff...@hotmail.com> Wrote in message:r > > On 11/09/2023 01:37, jdeluise wrote:> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> writes:> >>>> It's one of the worst tennis matches I had

to watch as a person that>> plays tennis.>>>> How would I expect myself to break my opponent without attacking his>> serve specially his second serve. Medved never did standing back in>> Rome.>>>> When someone keeps serving to me wide to volley the ball
in empty>> court or simply win the point because I stand far back, what would I>> change? Of course come closer to cut the angle specially on many of>> these important points.>>>> I expect myself to take chances and go for winners, he never did.>>>> It's
sad he took out Alcaraz.>>>> It's an empty field against Djokovic with Alcaraz trying to establish>> himself.> > Damn, if only we could have sent you out there. Djok wouldn't have had a> chance!Reminds me of the start of this vid, lol.https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=yTNMe3oWND4 > I didn't say I will beat djokovic, I was giving my thoughts about what I observed the entire match.You won't? Well who else will do it then? Our hopes were hanging on you.

Alci soon
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On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 10:14:03 PM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 6:44:27 PM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:

grif <griff...@hotmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On 11/09/2023 01:37, jdeluise wrote:> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> writes:> >>>> It's one of the worst tennis matches I had to watch as a person that>> plays tennis.>>>> How would I expect myself to break my opponent without attacking his>>

serve specially his second serve. Medved never did standing back in>> Rome.>>>> When someone keeps serving to me wide to volley the ball in empty>> court or simply win the point because I stand far back, what would I>> change? Of course come closer to
cut the angle specially on many of>> these important points.>>>> I expect myself to take chances and go for winners, he never did.>>>> It's sad he took out Alcaraz.>>>> It's an empty field against Djokovic with Alcaraz trying to establish>> himself.> >
Damn, if only we could have sent you out there. Djok wouldn't have had a> chance!Reminds me of the start of this vid, lol.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTNMe3oWND4

I didn't say I will beat djokovic, I was giving my thoughts about what I observed the entire match.

You won't? Well who else will do it then? Our hopes were hanging on you.

😂

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On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 9:48:37 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:

Court_1 Wrote in message:r

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:44:18 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> jdeluise <jdel...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r > > PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> writes:>> It's one of the worst tennis matches I had to watch as a person that> plays

tennis.>> How would I expect myself to break my opponent without attacking his> serve specially his second serve. Medved never did standing back in> Rome.>> When someone keeps serving to me wide to volley the ball in empty> court or simply win the point
because I stand far back, what would I> change? Of course come closer to cut the angle specially on many of> these important points.>> I expect myself to take chances and go for winners, he never did.>> It's sad he took out Alcaraz.>> It's an empty field
against Djokovic with Alcaraz trying to establish> himself.Damn, if only we could have sent you out there. Djok wouldn't have had achance! > > You can argue your my points otherwise your post is useless.> -- > > > ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- > https:
//piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlDjokovic is greater than Federer and Nadal. He's a genetic freak of nature and his discipline is second to none. Just accept it and get over it already! To try and argue against it at the point is
asinine. What more does Djokovic have to do to convince you? Yes, he isn't polished like Federer. What can you do? That's life.

What does this have to do with what I am discussing?

What it has to do with is that you are continually trying to come up with a new angle to try and discredit Djokovic. Now you're saying Medvedev played stupidly whereas before the final, you were saying Medvedev was going to beat Djokovic and save the day!
Now that Medvedev lost(which I told you he would) you're trying to say Alcaraz would have been the hero to beat Djokovic into submission. I just can't see it.

My point is that Medvedev and Alcaraz are inferior to Nadal and Federer. Djokovic figured out how to subdue those two goat players so Medvedev and current Alcaraz really don't have much of a chance. Alcaraz, if he continues to improve and stay motivated
will have the best chance in the future. But the future isn't here quite yet.

I was like you years ago. I tried to come up with every excuse why Federer was losing important matches to Djokovic so often in the last ten years. But it's a fruitless endeavour and a losing strategy to continue on with all that when Djokovic's
credentials tell the real story.

How many times do you have to repeat your usual statement in every rst thread?

Let's make an agreement, would you promise to stop repeating this non-stop in every thread, If I decided to agree with you?

I'll repeat it as long as you're going to come on here and try and refute it with dumb narratives.

I don't trust you to agree with me in writing on RST. I know you won't be able to admit it yet although it's clear that deep down you realize it. ;) Come on, try it. It's not that difficult and you'll feel better once you say it out loud. Djokovic>
Federer and Nadal. We don't have to like him but we have to give him that.

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On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 9:48:37PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Court_1 Wrote in message:r > > On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:44:18 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> jdeluise <jdel...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r > > PeteWasLucky <waleed...@

gmail.com> writes:>> It's one of the worst tennis matches I had to watch as a person that> plays tennis.>> How would I expect myself to break my opponent without attacking his> serve specially his second serve. Medved never did standing back in> Rome.>>
When someone keeps serving to me wide to volley the ball in empty> court or simply win the point because I stand far back, what would I> change? Of course come closer to cut the angle specially on many of> these important points.>> I expect myself to
take chances and go for winners, he never did.>> It's sad he took out Alcaraz.>> It's an empty field against Djokovic with Alcaraz trying to establish> himself.Damn, if only we could have sent you out there. Djok wouldn't have had achance! > > You can
argue your my points otherwise your post is useless.> -- > > > ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- > https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlDjokovic is greater than Federer and Nadal. He's a genetic freak of nature and his discipline
is second to none. Just accept it and get over it already! To try and argue against it at the point is asinine. What more does Djokovic have to do to convince you? Yes, he isn't polished like Federer. What can you do? That's life. > What does this have
to do with what I am discussing? What it has to do with is that you are continually trying to come up with a new angle to try and discredit Djokovic. Now you're saying Medvedev played stupidly whereas before the final, you were saying Medvedev was going
to beat Djokovic and save the day! Now that Medvedev lost(which I told you he would) you're trying to say Alcaraz would have been the hero to beat Djokovic into submission. I just can't see it. My point is that Medvedev and Alcaraz are inferior to Nadal
and Federer. Djokovic figured out how to subdue those two goat players so Medvedev and current Alcaraz really don't have much of a chance. Alcaraz, if he continues to improve and stay motivated will have the best chance in the future. But the future isn'
t here quite yet.I was like you years ago. I tried to come up with every excuse why Federer was losing important matches to Djokovic so often in the last ten years. But it's a fruitless endeavour and a losing strategy to continue on with all that when
Djokovic's credentials tell the real story. > How many times do you have to repeat your usual statement in every rst thread? > > Let's make an agreement, would you promise to stop repeating this non-stop in every thread, If I decided to agree with you?I'
ll repeat it as long as you're going to come on here and try and refute it with dumb narratives.I don't trust you to agree with me in writing on RST. I know you won't be able to admit it yet although it's clear that deep down you realize it. ;) Come on,
try it. It's not that difficult and you'll feel better once you say it out loud. Djokovic>Federer and Nadal. We don't have to like him but we have to give him that.

Many lies again.
Where did I discredited Djok? Link please?
Also, where did I say Medvedev will beat Djokovic? Link please?

I am discussing tennis strategies that I observed in the match.

Do you want to contribute?

Feel free, but after providing the two links that support your lies.
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On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 12:11:50 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:

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Djokovic is greater than Federer and Nadal. He's a genetic freak of nature and his discipline is second to none. Just accept it and get over it already! To try and argue against it at the point is asinine. What more does Djokovic have to do to convince

you? Yes, he isn't polished like Federer. What can you do? That's life.

What does this have to do with what I am discussing? What it has to do with is that you are continually trying to come up with a new angle to try and discredit Djokovic. Now you're saying Medvedev played stupidly whereas before the final, you were

saying Medvedev was going to beat Djokovic and save the day! Now that Medvedev lost(which I told you he would) you're trying to say Alcaraz would have been the hero to beat Djokovic into submission. I just can't see it. My point is that Medvedev and
Alcaraz are inferior to Nadal and Federer. Djokovic figured out how to subdue those two goat players so Medvedev and current Alcaraz really don't have much of a chance. Alcaraz, if he continues to improve and stay motivated will have the best chance in
the future. But the future isn't here quite yet.I was like you years ago. I tried to come up with every excuse why Federer was losing important matches to Djokovic so often in the last ten years. But it's a fruitless endeavour and a losing strategy to
continue on with all that when Djokovic's credentials tell the real story. > How many times do you have to repeat your usual statement in every rst thread? > > Let's make an agreement, would you promise to stop repeating this non-stop in every thread, If
I decided to agree with you?I'll repeat it as long as you're going to come on here and try and refute it with dumb narratives.I don't trust you to agree with me in writing on RST. I know you won't be able to admit it yet although it's clear that deep
down you realize it. ;) Come on, try it. It's not that difficult and you'll feel better once you say it out loud. Djokovic>Federer and Nadal. We don't have to like him but we have to give him that.

Many lies again.
Where did I discredited Djok? Link please?
Also, where did I say Medvedev will beat Djokovic? Link please?

You truly are dense. Where did you discredit Djokovic? You can't be serious? You've done it in almost every thread for years. Shifting goalposts all the time to try and prop up Federer and discredit Djokovic. I used to do it too until the 2019 Wimbledon
final finally made me see the light.

As for where you said Medvedev will beat Djokovic, you said it in the "Congrats Med" thread. After TT said, '"congrats Djokovic" when Alcaraz lost to Medvedev, you responded to TT by saying, "not sure about this if the same mad Medvedev shows up on
Sunday."

Do you want to test me again to expose your lies? This is fun! :)
.

I am discussing tennis strategies that I observed in the match.

Do you want to contribute?

Feel free, but after providing the two links that support your lies.

The single tennis strategy you have to know and the thing that matters is that Medvedev is an inferior player to Djokovic. The only thing Medvedev does better than Djokovic is the first serve. The fact that Medvedev played like a madman to beat Alcaraz
had nothing to do whatsoever with how Medvedev would fare vs Djokovic in a slam final.

I told you that when Djokovic loses a slam to a player, he sets out to eat that player's liver the next time they meet in a slam. That's what Djokovic did yesterday to Medvedev. Revenge for the last USO 2021 loss to him.

Now, when are you going to agree with me that Djokovic>Federer and Nadal like you said you would?

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On 11/09/2023 11:02 am, Court_1 wrote:

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:44:18 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:

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PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> writes:>> It's one of the worst tennis matches I had to watch as a person that> plays tennis.>> How would I expect myself to break my opponent without attacking his> serve specially his second serve. Medved never

did standing back in> Rome.>> When someone keeps serving to me wide to volley the ball in empty> court or simply win the point because I stand far back, what would I> change? Of course come closer to cut the angle specially on many of> these important
points.>> I expect myself to take chances and go for winners, he never did.>> It's sad he took out Alcaraz.>> It's an empty field against Djokovic with Alcaraz trying to establish> himself.Damn, if only we could have sent you out there. Djok wouldn't
have had achance!

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Djokovic is greater than Federer and Nadal. He's a genetic freak of nature and his discipline is second to none. Just accept it and get over it already! To try and argue against it at the point is >asinine. What more does Djokovic have to do to

convince you? Yes, he isn't polished like Federer. What can you do? That's life.


Djoker's stats are crazy and age doesn't weary him. PWL said Fed only
won less slams due to being 4 yrs older than Rafa and was done by 27,
while Novak is old enough to be Alcaraz's father. He's Roger's daddy too.

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On 11/09/2023 10:44 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:

jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:>> It's one of the worst tennis matches I had to watch as a person that> plays tennis.>> How would I expect myself to break my opponent without attacking his> serve specially his second serve. Medved never

did standing back in> Rome.>> When someone keeps serving to me wide to volley the ball in empty> court or simply win the point because I stand far back, what would I> change? Of course come closer to cut the angle specially on many of> these important
points.>> I expect myself to take chances and go for winners, he never did.>> It's sad he took out Alcaraz.>> It's an empty field against Djokovic with Alcaraz trying to establish> himself.Damn, if only we could have sent you out there. Djok wouldn't
have had achance!

You can argue your my points otherwise your post is useless.

You're the only one surprised to see a 1 slam wonder lose to the goat.
I said Med had 10% chance before the final. If he won set 2 it could
have been real interesting, depends how Med himself would hold up
physically rest of the way.

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On 11/09/2023 11:13 am, Gracchus wrote:

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 6:08:17 PM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:12:16 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:

PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

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It's one of the worst tennis matches I had to watch as a person that plays tennis.

How would I expect myself to break my opponent without attacking his serve specially his second serve. Medved never did standing back in Rome.

When someone keeps serving to me wide to volley the ball in empty court or simply win the point because I stand far back, what would I change? Of course come closer to cut the angle specially on many of these important points.

I expect myself to take chances and go for winners, he never did.

It's sad he took out Alcaraz.

It's an empty field against Djokovic with Alcaraz trying to establish himself.

Alcaraz would have lost too. I'm 80% sure.

Probably so. Certainly if he'd played the way he did against Medvedev, which was like Alcaraz regressing to an earlier stage of experience. Very disappointing.

It's more Med raising his game to 10 and Carlos not seeing it coming
based on there recent matches. Won't happen again imo.

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On 11/09/2023 11:08 am, Court_1 wrote:

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:12:16 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:

PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

And get easy reply, why does he keep going for backhand cross courts instead of dtl in open court either with his backhand or as winner with his forehand?Medved is playing bad today.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.

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It's one of the worst tennis matches I had to watch as a person that plays tennis.

How would I expect myself to break my opponent without attacking his serve specially his second serve. Medved never did standing back in Rome.

When someone keeps serving to me wide to volley the ball in empty court or simply win the point because I stand far back, what would I change? Of course come closer to cut the angle specially on many of these important points.

I expect myself to take chances and go for winners, he never did.

It's sad he took out Alcaraz.

It's an empty field against Djokovic with Alcaraz trying to establish himself.

Alcaraz would have lost too. I'm 80% sure.

We'll never know. Maybe Alcaraz was keeping a bit in reserve for Novak,
made fatal mistake of not taking Med as seriously as he should have.
Rookie error. Novak takes nobody for granted. Can't blame Carlos as
he's beaten Medvedev easily last few times, including Wimbledon semi 63
63 63. You could tell from Carlos' face he was a bit stunned and taking
it all in, trying to learn from wtf happened. He's a super quick
learner and I'd like to see them meet again at AO. Carlos will be
jacked up for that one.

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On 11/09/2023 11:44 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:

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On 11/09/2023 01:37, jdeluise wrote:> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:> >>>> It's one of the worst tennis matches I had to watch as a person that>> plays tennis.>>>> How would I expect myself to break my opponent without attacking his>>

serve specially his second serve. Medved never did standing back in>> Rome.>>>> When someone keeps serving to me wide to volley the ball in empty>> court or simply win the point because I stand far back, what would I>> change? Of course come closer to
cut the angle specially on many of>> these important points.>>>> I expect myself to take chances and go for winners, he never did.>>>> It's sad he took out Alcaraz.>>>> It's an empty field against Djokovic with Alcaraz trying to establish>> himself.> >
Damn, if only we could have sent you out there. Djok wouldn't have had a> chance!Reminds me of the start of this vid, lol.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTNMe3oWND4

I didn't say I will beat djokovic, I was giving my thoughts about what I observed the entire match.

You were observing the goat doing his thing.

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On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 6:46:21 AM UTC-4, Court_1 wrote:

On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 12:11:50 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:

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Djokovic is greater than Federer and Nadal. He's a genetic freak of nature and his discipline is second to none. Just accept it and get over it already! To try and argue against it at the point is asinine. What more does Djokovic have to do to

convince you? Yes, he isn't polished like Federer. What can you do? That's life.

What does this have to do with what I am discussing? What it has to do with is that you are continually trying to come up with a new angle to try and discredit Djokovic. Now you're saying Medvedev played stupidly whereas before the final, you were

saying Medvedev was going to beat Djokovic and save the day! Now that Medvedev lost(which I told you he would) you're trying to say Alcaraz would have been the hero to beat Djokovic into submission. I just can't see it. My point is that Medvedev and
Alcaraz are inferior to Nadal and Federer. Djokovic figured out how to subdue those two goat players so Medvedev and current Alcaraz really don't have much of a chance. Alcaraz, if he continues to improve and stay motivated will have the best chance in
the future. But the future isn't here quite yet.I was like you years ago. I tried to come up with every excuse why Federer was losing important matches to Djokovic so often in the last ten years. But it's a fruitless endeavour and a losing strategy to
continue on with all that when Djokovic's credentials tell the real story. > How many times do you have to repeat your usual statement in every rst thread? > > Let's make an agreement, would you promise to stop repeating this non-stop in every thread, If
I decided to agree with you?I'll repeat it as long as you're going to come on here and try and refute it with dumb narratives.I don't trust you to agree with me in writing on RST. I know you won't be able to admit it yet although it's clear that deep
down you realize it. ;) Come on, try it. It's not that difficult and you'll feel better once you say it out loud. Djokovic>Federer and Nadal. We don't have to like him but we have to give him that.

Many lies again.
Where did I discredited Djok? Link please?
Also, where did I say Medvedev will beat Djokovic? Link please?

You truly are dense. Where did you discredit Djokovic? You can't be serious? You've done it in almost every thread for years. Shifting goalposts all the time to try and prop up Federer and discredit Djokovic. I used to do it too until the 2019

Wimbledon final finally made me see the light.


First my thread is about tennis strategies, you left it all and instead of discussing the topic, you went on the attack.
I said nothing about Djokovic in my thread.
You are fully unhinged.

As for where you said Medvedev will beat Djokovic, you said it in the "Congrats Med" thread. After TT said, '"congrats Djokovic" when Alcaraz lost to Medvedev, you responded to TT by saying, "not sure about this if the same mad Medvedev shows up on

Sunday."

I said "not sure" and also said "only if he played at the same level he played Alcaraz".
So you lied again.
Very unhinged.

Do you want to test me again to expose your lies? This is fun! :)
.

I am discussing tennis strategies that I observed in the match.

Do you want to contribute?

Feel free, but after providing the two links that support your lies.

The single tennis strategy you have to know and the thing that matters is that Medvedev is an inferior player to Djokovic. The only thing Medvedev does better than Djokovic is the first serve. The fact that Medvedev played like a madman to beat Alcaraz

had nothing to do whatsoever with how Medvedev would fare vs Djokovic in a slam final.

I told you that when Djokovic loses a slam to a player, he sets out to eat that player's liver the next time they meet in a slam. That's what Djokovic did yesterday to Medvedev. Revenge for the last USO 2021 loss to him.

Now, when are you going to agree with me that Djokovic>Federer and Nadal like you said you would?

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On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:11:32 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:

Many lies again.
Where did I discredited Djok? Link please?
Also, where did I say Medvedev will beat Djokovic? Link please?

You truly are dense. Where did you discredit Djokovic? You can't be serious? You've done it in almost every thread for years. Shifting goalposts all the time to try and prop up Federer and discredit Djokovic. I used to do it too until the 2019

Wimbledon final finally made me see the light.

First my thread is about tennis strategies, you left it all and instead of discussing the topic, you went on the attack.
I said nothing about Djokovic in my thread.
You are fully unhinged.

As for where you said Medvedev will beat Djokovic, you said it in the "Congrats Med" thread. After TT said, '"congrats Djokovic" when Alcaraz lost to Medvedev, you responded to TT by saying, "not sure about this if the same mad Medvedev shows up on

Sunday."

I said "not sure" and also said "only if he played at the same level he played Alcaraz".
So you lied again.
Very unhinged.

You said, "if the same Medvedev shows up on Sunday that he "could" also beat Djokovic." Those were your words. You had the expectation that if Medvedev repeated his intensity, he could also beat Djokovic. However, the fatal error you made was you failed
to consider that Alcaraz is not Djokovic.
You asked me where did you claim that Medvedev could beat Djokovic and I pointed out exactly the thread you said it in and quoted exactly what you said. I exposed your lie.

"Unhinged," lol. Is that the best you've got? I suspect you would only use that term for a woman. Try harder next time.

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Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:r

On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:11:32AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> > > Many lies again. > > > Where did I discredited Djok? Link please? > > > Also, where did I say Medvedev will beat Djokovic? Link please? > > You truly are dense. Where did you

discredit Djokovic? You can't be serious? You've done it in almost every thread for years. Shifting goalposts all the time to try and prop up Federer and discredit Djokovic. I used to do it too until the 2019 Wimbledon final finally made me see the light.

First my thread is about tennis strategies, you left it all and instead of discussing the topic, you went on the attack. > I said nothing about Djokovic in my thread. > You are fully unhinged.> > As for where you said Medvedev will beat Djokovic,

you said it in the "Congrats Med" thread. After TT said, '"congrats Djokovic" when Alcaraz lost to Medvedev, you responded to TT by saying, "not sure about this if the same mad Medvedev shows up on Sunday."> I said "not sure" and also said "only if he
played at the same level he played Alcaraz". > So you lied again. > Very unhinged.You said, "if the same Medvedev shows up on Sunday that he "could" also beat Djokovic." Those were your words. You had the expectation that if Medvedev repeated his
intensity, he could also beat Djokovic. However, the fatal error you made was you failed to consider that Alcaraz is not Djokovic. You asked me where did you claim that Medvedev could beat Djokovic and I pointed out exactly the thread you said it in and
quoted exactly what you said. I exposed your lie."Unhinged," lol. Is that the best you've got? I suspect you would only use that term for a woman. Try harder next time.

You said I discredited djokovic in my thread, I didn't, and based on this you went on the attack. Conclusion, unhinged.

You said that I said Medved will beat Djokovic, and clearly I didn't, I said if he played at the same level he did against djokovic, then Maybe. You went on the attack based on things you fabricated. Conclusion, unhinged.

You jump on every thread to repeat the same sentence djok is greater than fedal, even though not every thread is discussing or comparing their greatness, but you can't distinguish the difference or really get into the exact topic, rushing to repeat the
same sentence, and when other people praised Djokovic the same way you did in a dedicated thread you jumped in and told them to go away. What kind of behavior is this? Clearly unhinged.


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On 11.9.2023 14.38, Whisper wrote:

On 11/09/2023 11:02 am, Court_1 wrote:

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:44:18 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:

jdeluise <jdel...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> writes:>> It's one of the worst
tennis matches I had to watch as a person that> plays tennis.>> How
would I expect myself to break my opponent without attacking his>
serve specially his second serve. Medved never did standing back in>
Rome.>> When someone keeps serving to me wide to volley the ball in
empty> court or simply win the point because I stand far back, what
would I> change? Of course come closer to cut the angle specially on
many of> these important points.>> I expect myself to take chances
and go for winners, he never did.>> It's sad he took out Alcaraz.>>
It's an empty field against Djokovic with Alcaraz trying to
establish> himself.Damn, if only we could have sent you out there.
Djok wouldn't have had achance!

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Djokovic is greater than Federer and Nadal. He's a genetic freak of
nature and his discipline is second to none. Just accept it and get
over it already! To try and argue against it at the point is >asinine.
What more does Djokovic have to do to convince you?  Yes, he isn't
polished like Federer. What can you do? That's life.

Djoker's stats are crazy and age doesn't weary him.

Had Djok lost that second, everybody would be hollering he should
retire. I don't know what really was the cause for his misery, maybe the
one service game from hell in the middle of the set. In the third he was
like nothing had happened.

Tennis is strange.

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Pelle Svanslös <pelle@svans.los> Wrote in message:r

On 11.9.2023 14.38, Whisper wrote:> On 11/09/2023 11:02 am, Court_1 wrote:>> On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:44:18 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:>>> jdeluise <jdel...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>>> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> writes:>> It'

s one of the worst >>>> tennis matches I had to watch as a person that> plays tennis.>> How >>>> would I expect myself to break my opponent without attacking his> >>>> serve specially his second serve. Medved never did standing back in> >>>> Rome.>> When
someone keeps serving to me wide to volley the ball in >>>> empty> court or simply win the point because I stand far back, what >>>> would I> change? Of course come closer to cut the angle specially on >>>> many of> these important points.>> I expect
myself to take chances >>>> and go for winners, he never did.>> It's sad he took out Alcaraz.>> >>>> It's an empty field against Djokovic with Alcaraz trying to >>>> establish> himself.Damn, if only we could have sent you out there. >>>> Djok wouldn't
have had achance!>>>>>> You can argue your my points otherwise your post is useless.>>> -- >>>>>>>>> ----Android NewsGroup Reader---->>> https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html>>>> Djokovic is greater than Federer and Nadal. He's a
genetic freak of >> nature and his discipline is second to none. Just accept it and get >> over it already! To try and argue against it at the point is >asinine. >> What more does Djokovic have to do to convince you? Yes, he isn't >> polished like
Federer. What can you do? That's life.> > > Djoker's stats are crazy and age doesn't weary him. Had Djok lost that second, everybody would be hollering he should retire. I don't know what really was the cause for his misery, maybe the one service game
from hell in the middle of the set. In the third he was like nothing had happened.Tennis is strange.-- "And off they went, from here to there,The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"-- Traditional


The second set is what he lost in Wimbledon against Alcaraz. Very similar pattern.

2 pts in that set and it's 3-0 just like here.


OTOH had he lost 2nd set here...he'd be lucky to decide it in the fifth.


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On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 10:53:06 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:

Court_1 Wrote in message:r

On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:11:32 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> > > Many lies again. > > > Where did I discredited Djok? Link please? > > > Also, where did I say Medvedev will beat Djokovic? Link please? > > You truly are dense. Where did you

discredit Djokovic? You can't be serious? You've done it in almost every thread for years. Shifting goalposts all the time to try and prop up Federer and discredit Djokovic. I used to do it too until the 2019 Wimbledon final finally made me see the light.

First my thread is about tennis strategies, you left it all and instead of discussing the topic, you went on the attack. > I said nothing about Djokovic in my thread. > You are fully unhinged.> > As for where you said Medvedev will beat Djokovic,

you said it in the "Congrats Med" thread. After TT said, '"congrats Djokovic" when Alcaraz lost to Medvedev, you responded to TT by saying, "not sure about this if the same mad Medvedev shows up on Sunday."> I said "not sure" and also said "only if he
played at the same level he played Alcaraz". > So you lied again. > Very unhinged.You said, "if the same Medvedev shows up on Sunday that he "could" also beat Djokovic." Those were your words. You had the expectation that if Medvedev repeated his
intensity, he could also beat Djokovic. However, the fatal error you made was you failed to consider that Alcaraz is not Djokovic. You asked me where did you claim that Medvedev could beat Djokovic and I pointed out exactly the thread you said it in and
quoted exactly what you said. I exposed your lie."Unhinged," lol. Is that the best you've got? I suspect you would only use that term for a woman. Try harder next time.

You said I discredited djokovic in my thread, I didn't, and based on this you went on the attack. Conclusion, unhinged.

I'm not attacking you. You're the one calling me unhinged but you constantly post things and then try and deny you said them. Your whole modus operandi is to continue to make-up inane theories to try and bolster Federer and discredit Djokovic. That's all
you ever do and you seemingly do it 24-7. Don't you have other things to do, ever? It's not healthy.

At this point with Djokovic at 24 slams, winning head to heads against Nadal/Federer, and owner of most important stats, you just look silly. Unhinged is a good word to describe your reverence for a goat level tennis player who doesn't know you exist.
It's also an apt word to describe your refusal to look at objective stats in order to come up with the only conclusion with respect to Djokovic vs Federer as players. When you're calling somebody unhinged(for exposing your lies) maybe you should look in
the mirror first?

You said that I said Medved will beat Djokovic, and clearly I didn't, I said if he played at the same level he did against djokovic, then Maybe. You went on the attack based on things you fabricated. Conclusion, unhinged.

That's not how it went down. You stated that you never said Medvedev would beat Djokovic but we can all see that's not the case. You did say that if Medvedev played with the same intensity he did vs Alcaraz that he "may or could" beat Djokovic. That's a
far cry from never saying Medvedev would beat Djokovic. Somehow you're unable to see the difference.

You jump on every thread to repeat the same sentence djok is greater than fedal, even though not every thread is discussing or comparing their greatness, but you can't distinguish the difference or really get into the exact topic, rushing to repeat the

same sentence,

The thread was about Medvedev's strategy to beat Djokovic so I said what strategy could an inferior player create that would beat Djokovic in best of five especially since Djokovic was out for revenge from the 2021 USO loss. Medvedev is a good player but
he doesn't compare to the Big Three players. He's just not at their level.

The 2021 USO win over Djokovic was clearly an anomaly. But please, continue blabbing on about strategies to beat Djokovic in a slam, lol. Federer and Nadal had trouble with it so what do you expect from a player like Medvedev? In best of three, Medvedev
has a chance but I wouldn't depend on him to beat Djokovic in best of five as long as Djokovic has the fitness and motivation to continue.

and when other people praised Djokovic the same way you did in a dedicated thread you jumped in and told them to go away. What kind of behavior is this? Clearly unhinged.

I was responding to Ocean who always comes on here to predict something(usually wrong) or gloat about Djokovic's 8000th win. I told him "we know Djokovic is the greatest so go to sleep!" It's called having a sense of humor which clearly you lack.

Now, isn't it time for you to post a video of Federer from 2006 showing his incredible shot-making?

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On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 2:04:41 PM UTC-4, Court_1 wrote:

On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 10:53:06 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:

Court_1 Wrote in message:r

On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:11:32 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> > > Many lies again. > > > Where did I discredited Djok? Link please? > > > Also, where did I say Medvedev will beat Djokovic? Link please? > > You truly are dense. Where did

you discredit Djokovic? You can't be serious? You've done it in almost every thread for years. Shifting goalposts all the time to try and prop up Federer and discredit Djokovic. I used to do it too until the 2019 Wimbledon final finally made me see the
light. > >> First my thread is about tennis strategies, you left it all and instead of discussing the topic, you went on the attack. > I said nothing about Djokovic in my thread. > You are fully unhinged.> > As for where you said Medvedev will beat
Djokovic, you said it in the "Congrats Med" thread. After TT said, '"congrats Djokovic" when Alcaraz lost to Medvedev, you responded to TT by saying, "not sure about this if the same mad Medvedev shows up on Sunday."> I said "not sure" and also said "
only if he played at the same level he played Alcaraz". > So you lied again. > Very unhinged.You said, "if the same Medvedev shows up on Sunday that he "could" also beat Djokovic." Those were your words. You had the expectation that if Medvedev repeated
his intensity, he could also beat Djokovic. However, the fatal error you made was you failed to consider that Alcaraz is not Djokovic. You asked me where did you claim that Medvedev could beat Djokovic and I pointed out exactly the thread you said it in
and quoted exactly what you said. I exposed your lie."Unhinged," lol. Is that the best you've got? I suspect you would only use that term for a woman. Try harder next time.

You said I discredited djokovic in my thread, I didn't, and based on this you went on the attack. Conclusion, unhinged.

I'm not attacking you. You're the one calling me unhinged but you constantly post things and then try and deny you said them. Your whole modus operandi is to continue to make-up inane theories to try and bolster Federer and discredit Djokovic. That's

all you ever do and you seemingly do it 24-7. Don't you have other things to do, ever? It's not healthy.

At this point with Djokovic at 24 slams, winning head to heads against Nadal/Federer, and owner of most important stats, you just look silly. Unhinged is a good word to describe your reverence for a goat level tennis player who doesn't know you exist.

It's also an apt word to describe your refusal to look at objective stats in order to come up with the only conclusion with respect to Djokovic vs Federer as players. When you're calling somebody unhinged(for exposing your lies) maybe you should look in
the mirror first?

You said that I said Medved will beat Djokovic, and clearly I didn't, I said if he played at the same level he did against djokovic, then Maybe. You went on the attack based on things you fabricated. Conclusion, unhinged.

That's not how it went down. You stated that you never said Medvedev would beat Djokovic but we can all see that's not the case. You did say that if Medvedev played with the same intensity he did vs Alcaraz that he "may or could" beat Djokovic. That's

a far cry from never saying Medvedev would beat Djokovic. Somehow you're unable to see the difference.

You jump on every thread to repeat the same sentence djok is greater than fedal, even though not every thread is discussing or comparing their greatness, but you can't distinguish the difference or really get into the exact topic, rushing to repeat

the same sentence,

The thread was about Medvedev's strategy to beat Djokovic so I said what strategy could an inferior player create that would beat Djokovic in best of five especially since Djokovic was out for revenge from the 2021 USO loss. Medvedev is a good player

but he doesn't compare to the Big Three players. He's just not at their level.

The 2021 USO win over Djokovic was clearly an anomaly. But please, continue blabbing on about strategies to beat Djokovic in a slam, lol. Federer and Nadal had trouble with it so what do you expect from a player like Medvedev? In best of three,

Medvedev has a chance but I wouldn't depend on him to beat Djokovic in best of five as long as Djokovic has the fitness and motivation to continue.

and when other people praised Djokovic the same way you did in a dedicated thread you jumped in and told them to go away. What kind of behavior is this? Clearly unhinged.

I was responding to Ocean who always comes on here to predict something(usually wrong) or gloat about Djokovic's 8000th win. I told him "we know Djokovic is the greatest so go to sleep!" It's called having a sense of humor which clearly you lack.

Now, isn't it time for you to post a video of Federer from 2006 showing his incredible shot-making?

I will just focus on djok loss to medved in 2021 (I already addressed previous points and it became boring).
Your problem is that things for you are either black or white, it's not. Djokovic played tough matches before the final that year. I knew that the SF against Zverev will impact him in the final.
Also he had other long physical matches before that SF (including that American guy with weird serve).
These variables favored Medvedev.

This year Djok played no one and was fresh in the final, while medved was the one that had to work hard to beat Alcaraz. This definitely helped Djokovic.

Btw, no Federer's video links for you any more, you've got to enjoy this one

https://youtu.be/-jtV7IJP8NU?si=EdxE1ffFi0pi7ghF

Going forward, every time I post a video for Federer, I will include a Djok's video for you (it will say "for Court1 with love :) ).

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On 12/09/2023 5:17 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 2:04:41 PM UTC-4, Court_1 wrote:>> On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 10:53:06 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:>>> Court_1 Wrote in message:r>>>> On Monday, September 11, 2023

at 8:11:32 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> > > Many lies again. > > > Where did I discredited Djok? Link please? > > > Also, where did I say Medvedev will beat Djokovic? Link please? > > You truly are dense. Where did you discredit Djokovic? You can't be
serious? You've done it in almost every thread for years. Shifting goalposts all the time to try and prop up Federer and discredit Djokovic. I used to do it too until the 2019 Wimbledon final finally made me see the light. > >> First my thread is about
tennis strategies, you left it all and instead of discussing the topic, you went on the attack. > I said nothing about Djokovic in my thread. > You are fully unhinged.> > As for where you said Medvedev will beat Djokovic, you said it in the "Congrats Med"
thread. After TT said, '"congrats Djokovic" when Alcaraz lost to Medvedev, you responded to TT by saying, "not sure about this if the same mad Medvedev shows up on Sunday."> I said "not sure" and also said "only if he played at the same level he played
Alcaraz". > So you lied again. > Very unhinged.You said, "if the same Medvedev shows up on Sunday that he "could" also beat Djokovic." Those were your words. You had the expectation that if Medvedev repeated his intensity, he could also beat Djokovic.
However, the fatal error you made was you failed to consider that Alcaraz is not Djokovic. You asked me where did you claim that Medvedev could beat Djokovic and I pointed out exactly the thread you said it in and quoted exactly what you said. I exposed
your lie."Unhinged," lol. Is that the best you've got? I suspect you would only use that term for a woman. Try harder next time.>>>>>> You said I discredited djokovic in my thread, I didn't, and based on this you went on the attack. Conclusion, unhinged.>

I'm not attacking you. You're the one calling me unhinged but you constantly post things and then try and deny you said them. Your whole modus operandi is to continue to make-up inane theories to try and bolster Federer and discredit Djokovic. That's

all you ever do and you seemingly do it 24-7. Don't you have other things to do, ever? It's not healthy.>>>> At this point with Djokovic at 24 slams, winning head to heads against Nadal/Federer, and owner of most important stats, you just look silly.
Unhinged is a good word to describe your reverence for a goat level tennis player who doesn't know you exist. It's also an apt word to describe your refusal to look at objective stats in order to come up with the only conclusion with respect to Djokovic
vs Federer as players. When you're calling somebody unhinged(for exposing your lies) maybe you should look in the mirror first?>>> You said that I said Medved will beat Djokovic, and clearly I didn't, I said if he played at the same level he did against
djokovic, then Maybe. You went on the attack based on things you fabricated. Conclusion, unhinged.>> That's not how it went down. You stated that you never said Medvedev would beat Djokovic but we can all see that's not the case. You did say that if
Medvedev played with the same intensity he did vs Alcaraz that he "may or could" beat Djokovic. That's a far cry from never saying Medvedev would beat Djokovic. Somehow you're unable to see the difference.>>> You jump on every thread to repeat the same
sentence djok is greater than fedal, even though not every thread is discussing or comparing their greatness, but you can't distinguish the difference or really get into the exact topic, rushing to repeat the same sentence,>> The thread was about
Medvedev's strategy to beat Djokovic so I said what strategy could an inferior player create that would beat Djokovic in best of five especially since Djokovic was out for revenge from the 2021 USO loss. Medvedev is a good player but he doesn't compare
to the Big Three players. He's just not at their level.>>>> The 2021 USO win over Djokovic was clearly an anomaly. But please, continue blabbing on about strategies to beat Djokovic in a slam, lol. Federer and Nadal had trouble with it so what do you
expect from a player like Medvedev? In best of three, Medvedev has a chance but I wouldn't depend on him to beat Djokovic in best of five as long as Djokovic has the fitness and motivation to continue.>>> and when other people praised Djokovic the same
way you did in a dedicated thread you jumped in and told them to go away. What kind of behavior is this? Clearly unhinged.>> I was responding to Ocean who always comes on here to predict something(usually wrong) or gloat about Djokovic's 8000th win. I
told him "we know Djokovic is the greatest so go to sleep!" It's called having a sense of humor which clearly you lack.>>>> Now, isn't it time for you to post a video of Federer from 2006 showing his incredible shot-making?> > > I will just focus on djok
loss to medved in 2021 (I already addressed previous points and it became boring).> Your problem is that things for you are either black or white, it's not.> Djokovic played tough matches before the final that year. I knew that the SF against Zverev will
impact him in the final.> Also he had other long physical matches before that SF (including that American guy with weird serve).> These variables favored Medvedev.> You're ignoring the obvious elephant in the living room - the calendar slam. Why?Do you
really think the calendar slam pressure was of no consequence? You can't possibly be that stupid?


Because Federer didn't do it, but wasn't even close to doing it so...

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On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 3:17:50 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:

On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 2:04:41 PM UTC-4, Court_1 wrote:

On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 10:53:06 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:

Court_1 Wrote in message:r

On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:11:32 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> > > Many lies again. > > > Where did I discredited Djok? Link please? > > > Also, where did I say Medvedev will beat Djokovic? Link please? > > You truly are dense. Where did

you discredit Djokovic? You can't be serious? You've done it in almost every thread for years. Shifting goalposts all the time to try and prop up Federer and discredit Djokovic. I used to do it too until the 2019 Wimbledon final finally made me see the
light. > >> First my thread is about tennis strategies, you left it all and instead of discussing the topic, you went on the attack. > I said nothing about Djokovic in my thread. > You are fully unhinged.> > As for where you said Medvedev will beat
Djokovic, you said it in the "Congrats Med" thread. After TT said, '"congrats Djokovic" when Alcaraz lost to Medvedev, you responded to TT by saying, "not sure about this if the same mad Medvedev shows up on Sunday."> I said "not sure" and also said "
only if he played at the same level he played Alcaraz". > So you lied again. > Very unhinged.You said, "if the same Medvedev shows up on Sunday that he "could" also beat Djokovic." Those were your words. You had the expectation that if Medvedev repeated
his intensity, he could also beat Djokovic. However, the fatal error you made was you failed to consider that Alcaraz is not Djokovic. You asked me where did you claim that Medvedev could beat Djokovic and I pointed out exactly the thread you said it in
and quoted exactly what you said. I exposed your lie."Unhinged," lol. Is that the best you've got? I suspect you would only use that term for a woman. Try harder next time.

You said I discredited djokovic in my thread, I didn't, and based on this you went on the attack. Conclusion, unhinged.

I'm not attacking you. You're the one calling me unhinged but you constantly post things and then try and deny you said them. Your whole modus operandi is to continue to make-up inane theories to try and bolster Federer and discredit Djokovic. That's

all you ever do and you seemingly do it 24-7. Don't you have other things to do, ever? It's not healthy.

At this point with Djokovic at 24 slams, winning head to heads against Nadal/Federer, and owner of most important stats, you just look silly. Unhinged is a good word to describe your reverence for a goat level tennis player who doesn't know you exist.

It's also an apt word to describe your refusal to look at objective stats in order to come up with the only conclusion with respect to Djokovic vs Federer as players. When you're calling somebody unhinged(for exposing your lies) maybe you should look in
the mirror first?

You said that I said Medved will beat Djokovic, and clearly I didn't, I said if he played at the same level he did against djokovic, then Maybe. You went on the attack based on things you fabricated. Conclusion, unhinged.

That's not how it went down. You stated that you never said Medvedev would beat Djokovic but we can all see that's not the case. You did say that if Medvedev played with the same intensity he did vs Alcaraz that he "may or could" beat Djokovic. That'

s a far cry from never saying Medvedev would beat Djokovic. Somehow you're unable to see the difference.

You jump on every thread to repeat the same sentence djok is greater than fedal, even though not every thread is discussing or comparing their greatness, but you can't distinguish the difference or really get into the exact topic, rushing to repeat

the same sentence,

The thread was about Medvedev's strategy to beat Djokovic so I said what strategy could an inferior player create that would beat Djokovic in best of five especially since Djokovic was out for revenge from the 2021 USO loss. Medvedev is a good player

but he doesn't compare to the Big Three players. He's just not at their level.

The 2021 USO win over Djokovic was clearly an anomaly. But please, continue blabbing on about strategies to beat Djokovic in a slam, lol. Federer and Nadal had trouble with it so what do you expect from a player like Medvedev? In best of three,

Medvedev has a chance but I wouldn't depend on him to beat Djokovic in best of five as long as Djokovic has the fitness and motivation to continue.

and when other people praised Djokovic the same way you did in a dedicated thread you jumped in and told them to go away. What kind of behavior is this? Clearly unhinged.

I was responding to Ocean who always comes on here to predict something(usually wrong) or gloat about Djokovic's 8000th win. I told him "we know Djokovic is the greatest so go to sleep!" It's called having a sense of humor which clearly you lack.

Now, isn't it time for you to post a video of Federer from 2006 showing his incredible shot-making?

I will just focus on djok loss to medved in 2021 (I already addressed previous points and it became boring).
Your problem is that things for you are either black or white, it's not. Djokovic played tough matches before the final that year. I knew that the SF against Zverev will impact him in the final.
Also he had other long physical matches before that SF (including that American guy with weird serve).
These variables favored Medvedev.

This year Djok played no one and was fresh in the final, while medved was the one that had to work hard to beat Alcaraz. This definitely helped Djokovic.

Btw, no Federer's video links for you any more, you've got to enjoy this one

https://youtu.be/-jtV7IJP8NU?si=EdxE1ffFi0pi7ghF

Going forward, every time I post a video for Federer, I will include a Djok's video for you (it will say "for Court1 with love :) ).

At the end of the day, who really cares about which Big Three player is a little better statistically? The Big Three are all-time greats who have made hundreds of millions of dollars. It's only their fans who quibble so much about who did this better,
who did that better, etc. Where does it get anybody at the end of the day? People should focus on their own lives and create their own success stories instead of glorifying pro athletes and worrying about which player has a 1mm bigger genitalia.

I will always enjoy watching Federer's artistry the most and no, I don't watch repeats of Djokovic's matches on YouTube! At least we can agree on that one thing.

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On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 5:24:31 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:

On 12/09/2023 5:17 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:

On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 2:04:41 PM UTC-4, Court_1 wrote:

On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 10:53:06 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote: >>> Court_1 Wrote in message:r

On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:11:32 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> > > Many lies again. > > > Where did I discredited Djok? Link please? > > > Also, where did I say Medvedev will beat Djokovic? Link please? > > You truly are dense. Where did

you discredit Djokovic? You can't be serious? You've done it in almost every thread for years. Shifting goalposts all the time to try and prop up Federer and discredit Djokovic. I used to do it too until the 2019 Wimbledon final finally made me see the
light. > >> First my thread is about tennis strategies, you left it all and instead of discussing the topic, you went on the attack. > I said nothing about Djokovic in my thread. > You are fully unhinged.> > As for where you said Medvedev will beat
Djokovic, you said it in the "Congrats Med" thread. After TT said, '"congrats Djokovic" when Alcaraz lost to Medvedev, you responded to TT by saying, "not sure about this if the same mad Medvedev shows up on Sunday."> I said "not sure" and also said "
only if he played at the same level he played Alcaraz". > So you lied again. > Very unhinged.You said, "if the same Medvedev shows up on Sunday that he "could" also beat Djokovic." Those were your words. You had the expectation that if Medvedev repeated
his intensity, he could also beat Djokovic. However, the fatal error you made was you failed to consider that Alcaraz is not Djokovic. You asked me where did you claim that Medvedev could beat Djokovic and I pointed out exactly the thread you said it in
and quoted exactly what you said. I exposed your lie."Unhinged," lol. Is that the best you've got? I suspect you would only use that term for a woman. Try harder next time.

You said I discredited djokovic in my thread, I didn't, and based on this you went on the attack. Conclusion, unhinged.

I'm not attacking you. You're the one calling me unhinged but you constantly post things and then try and deny you said them. Your whole modus operandi is to continue to make-up inane theories to try and bolster Federer and discredit Djokovic. That'

s all you ever do and you seemingly do it 24-7. Don't you have other things to do, ever? It's not healthy.

At this point with Djokovic at 24 slams, winning head to heads against Nadal/Federer, and owner of most important stats, you just look silly. Unhinged is a good word to describe your reverence for a goat level tennis player who doesn't know you

exist. It's also an apt word to describe your refusal to look at objective stats in order to come up with the only conclusion with respect to Djokovic vs Federer as players. When you're calling somebody unhinged(for exposing your lies) maybe you should
look in the mirror first?

You said that I said Medved will beat Djokovic, and clearly I didn't, I said if he played at the same level he did against djokovic, then Maybe. You went on the attack based on things you fabricated. Conclusion, unhinged.

That's not how it went down. You stated that you never said Medvedev would beat Djokovic but we can all see that's not the case. You did say that if Medvedev played with the same intensity he did vs Alcaraz that he "may or could" beat Djokovic. That'

s a far cry from never saying Medvedev would beat Djokovic. Somehow you're unable to see the difference.

You jump on every thread to repeat the same sentence djok is greater than fedal, even though not every thread is discussing or comparing their greatness, but you can't distinguish the difference or really get into the exact topic, rushing to repeat

the same sentence,

The thread was about Medvedev's strategy to beat Djokovic so I said what strategy could an inferior player create that would beat Djokovic in best of five especially since Djokovic was out for revenge from the 2021 USO loss. Medvedev is a good

player but he doesn't compare to the Big Three players. He's just not at their level.

The 2021 USO win over Djokovic was clearly an anomaly. But please, continue blabbing on about strategies to beat Djokovic in a slam, lol. Federer and Nadal had trouble with it so what do you expect from a player like Medvedev? In best of three,

Medvedev has a chance but I wouldn't depend on him to beat Djokovic in best of five as long as Djokovic has the fitness and motivation to continue.

and when other people praised Djokovic the same way you did in a dedicated thread you jumped in and told them to go away. What kind of behavior is this? Clearly unhinged.

I was responding to Ocean who always comes on here to predict something(usually wrong) or gloat about Djokovic's 8000th win. I told him "we know Djokovic is the greatest so go to sleep!" It's called having a sense of humor which clearly you lack.

Now, isn't it time for you to post a video of Federer from 2006 showing his incredible shot-making?

I will just focus on djok loss to medved in 2021 (I already addressed previous points and it became boring).
Your problem is that things for you are either black or white, it's not. Djokovic played tough matches before the final that year. I knew that the SF against Zverev will impact him in the final.
Also he had other long physical matches before that SF (including that American guy with weird serve).
These variables favored Medvedev.

You're ignoring the obvious elephant in the living room - the calendar
slam. Why?

Do you really think the calendar slam pressure was of no consequence?
You can't possibly be that stupid?

We can throw a thousand factoids at PWL and it won't matter. In his mind, he's set up a safe place where he wants to keep Federer as the greatest although every relevant stat tells us it's not the case. To me, it's weird and unhealthy.

Of course the CYGS pressure got to Novak in that 2021 USO match. He seemed mentally worn out too after that whole Olympics debacle. The loss wasn't because Novak was too old or long past his best. We've just witnessed the 36 year old Novak(two years
older than when he played Medvedev at the 2021 USO) outlast and outplay the 27 year old Medvedev. We saw him outplay and outlast Alcaraz at the FO. This age argument is not only tiresome but it's an outdated opinion that has no central place in 2023.

There is no better player than Novak when it comes to losing a tough slam match vs another player and then completely turning it around in the next slam match he plays vs same player(sorry PWL, but Federer was a dunce that way in comparison!) Novak must
obsessively study the tapes of matches he loses and he comes up with a different game plan for the next time. He's a very intelligent tennis player in that respect. He was serve and volleying against Medvedev in the USO final a few days ago. Who would
ever guess we'd see that from him? That was unthinkable years ago.

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