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  • Re:Champion Tour/series is apparently totally dead?

    From *skriptis@21:1/5 to MBDunc on Sat Sep 9 13:49:27 2023
    MBDunc <michaelb@dnainternet.net> Wrote in message:r
    The tour which had his heydays 90:/00:ie when Connors/Mac/Borg/co played this mini "legends" series?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATP_Champions_TourSeems like it was already shrinking badly 201x.... and Covid-19 killed it?.mikko


    People want some fresh blood.

    Champions tour is no exception.


    Noah, Bahrami, Leconte, Lendl, Wilander.

    People are either fed up with them or they don't even know who they are.


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  • From MBDunc@21:1/5 to MBDunc on Sat Sep 9 04:51:09 2023
    On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 2:46:33 PM UTC+3, MBDunc wrote:
    The tour which had his heydays 90:/00:ie when Connors/Mac/Borg/co played this mini "legends" series?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATP_Champions_Tour

    Seems like it was already shrinking badly 201x.... and Covid-19 killed it?

    .mikko

    One odd one: Lendl was there 2014!!! Losing Genoa final to Goran!!!

    .mikko

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  • From MBDunc@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 9 04:56:10 2023
    On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 2:49:27 PM UTC+3, *skriptis wrote:
    MBDunc <mich...@dnainternet.net> Wrote in message:r
    The tour which had his heydays 90:/00:ie when Connors/Mac/Borg/co played this mini "legends" series?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATP_Champions_TourSeems like it was already shrinking badly 201x.... and Covid-19 killed it?.mikko


    People want some fresh blood.

    Champions tour is no exception.


    Noah, Bahrami, Leconte, Lendl, Wilander.

    Bahrami gimmicks got old very fast.

    And some of the matches had total mismatches (90:ies they had actually Connors to control who can join; in his book he says that he personally dismissed some candidates just because they were not fit enough anymore).

    But: smt else: Becker-Bahrami real match from 1988.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFbY2zmJt5Y

    .mikko

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  • From MBDunc@21:1/5 to MBDunc on Sat Sep 9 05:00:22 2023
    On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 2:56:12 PM UTC+3, MBDunc wrote:
    On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 2:49:27 PM UTC+3, *skriptis wrote:
    MBDunc <mich...@dnainternet.net> Wrote in message:r
    The tour which had his heydays 90:/00:ie when Connors/Mac/Borg/co played this mini "legends" series?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATP_Champions_TourSeems like it was already shrinking badly 201x.... and Covid-19 killed it?.mikko


    People want some fresh blood.

    Champions tour is no exception.


    Noah, Bahrami, Leconte, Lendl, Wilander.
    Bahrami gimmicks got old very fast.

    And some of the matches had total mismatches (90:ies they had actually Connors to control who can join; in his book he says that he personally dismissed some candidates just because they were not fit enough anymore).

    But: smt else: Becker-Bahrami real match from 1988.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFbY2zmJt5Y

    .mikko

    see the couple of points at 20min 45 sec onwards....

    .mikko

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  • From MBDunc@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 9 04:46:30 2023
    The tour which had his heydays 90:/00:ie when Connors/Mac/Borg/co played this mini "legends" series?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATP_Champions_Tour

    Seems like it was already shrinking badly 201x.... and Covid-19 killed it?

    .mikko

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  • From MBDunc@21:1/5 to MBDunc on Sat Sep 9 06:16:36 2023
    On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 3:00:25 PM UTC+3, MBDunc wrote:
    On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 2:56:12 PM UTC+3, MBDunc wrote:
    On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 2:49:27 PM UTC+3, *skriptis wrote:
    MBDunc <mich...@dnainternet.net> Wrote in message:r
    The tour which had his heydays 90:/00:ie when Connors/Mac/Borg/co played this mini "legends" series?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATP_Champions_TourSeems like it was already shrinking badly 201x.... and Covid-19 killed it?.mikko


    People want some fresh blood.

    Champions tour is no exception.


    Noah, Bahrami, Leconte, Lendl, Wilander.
    Bahrami gimmicks got old very fast.

    And some of the matches had total mismatches (90:ies they had actually Connors to control who can join; in his book he says that he personally dismissed some candidates just because they were not fit enough anymore).

    But: smt else: Becker-Bahrami real match from 1988.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFbY2zmJt5Y

    .mikko
    see the couple of points at 20min 45 sec onwards....

    .mikko

    An for "exhibition nature of fun" this point: https://youtu.be/TFbY2zmJt5Y?t=3597

    .mikko

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to MBDunc on Sat Sep 9 08:16:20 2023
    On 9/9/23 4:46 AM, MBDunc wrote:
    The tour which had his heydays 90:/00:ie when Connors/Mac/Borg/co played this mini "legends" series?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATP_Champions_Tour

    Seems like it was already shrinking badly 201x.... and Covid-19 killed it?

    .mikko


    Does anyone remember Connors' Nuveen Tour?

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  • From MBDunc@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Sat Sep 9 08:27:18 2023
    On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 6:16:23 PM UTC+3, Sawfish wrote:
    On 9/9/23 4:46 AM, MBDunc wrote:
    The tour which had his heydays 90:/00:ie when Connors/Mac/Borg/co played this mini "legends" series?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATP_Champions_Tour

    Seems like it was already shrinking badly 201x.... and Covid-19 killed it?

    .mikko


    Does anyone remember Connors' Nuveen Tour?

    That's where this Champion tour started.

    https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/senior-tour-1993-2000.541806/

    I remember one flashback of 1998 Finland national sport news: Leconte beat Borg at Åland event final.

    .mikko

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