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  • Congrats Med

    From Shakes@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 9 02:43:32 2023
    Great match from him overall.

    That last game, both were clearly nervous. Alcaraz had his chances.

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 9 05:51:13 2023
    Shakes kirjoitti 9.9.2023 klo 5.43:
    Great match from him overall.

    That last game, both were clearly nervous. Alcaraz had his chances.

    Congrats Djokovic.

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  • From Court_1@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 8 20:42:19 2023
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 10:51:17 PM UTC-4, TT wrote:
    Shakes kirjoitti 9.9.2023 klo 5.43:
    Great match from him overall.

    That last game, both were clearly nervous. Alcaraz had his chances.
    Congrats Djokovic.

    Yep, pretty much!

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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to TT@dprk.kp on Sat Sep 9 00:01:44 2023
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r
    Shakes kirjoitti 9.9.2023 klo 5.43:> Great match from him overall.> > That last game, both were clearly nervous. Alcaraz had his chances.Congrats Djokovic.

    Not sure about this if the same mad medvedev shows up on Sunday.
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  • From Shakes@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 8 21:24:47 2023
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 7:51:17 PM UTC-7, TT wrote:
    Shakes kirjoitti 9.9.2023 klo 5.43:
    Great match from him overall.

    That last game, both were clearly nervous. Alcaraz had his chances.
    Congrats Djokovic.

    Not so fast. Remember 2021 USO F ?

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  • From RaspingDrive@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 9 09:22:18 2023
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:42:21 PM UTC-4, Court_1 wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 10:51:17 PM UTC-4, TT wrote:
    Shakes kirjoitti 9.9.2023 klo 5.43:
    Great match from him overall.

    That last game, both were clearly nervous. Alcaraz had his chances.
    Congrats Djokovic.
    Yep, pretty much!

    You think so? Let's see what happens.

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  • From RaspingDrive@21:1/5 to Shakes on Sat Sep 9 09:23:10 2023
    On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 12:24:49 AM UTC-4, Shakes wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 7:51:17 PM UTC-7, TT wrote:
    Shakes kirjoitti 9.9.2023 klo 5.43:
    Great match from him overall.

    That last game, both were clearly nervous. Alcaraz had his chances.
    Congrats Djokovic.
    Not so fast. Remember 2021 USO F ?

    If Meds serves like how he did against Alcaraz, then...

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to RaspingDrive on Sat Sep 9 09:38:02 2023
    On 9/9/23 9:22 AM, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:42:21 PM UTC-4, Court_1 wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 10:51:17 PM UTC-4, TT wrote:
    Shakes kirjoitti 9.9.2023 klo 5.43:
    Great match from him overall.

    That last game, both were clearly nervous. Alcaraz had his chances.
    Congrats Djokovic.
    Yep, pretty much!
    You think so? Let's see what happens.

    That's why they play the match before awarding the trophy.

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  • From Court_1@21:1/5 to RaspingDrive on Sat Sep 9 16:56:50 2023
    On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 12:22:21 PM UTC-4, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:42:21 PM UTC-4, Court_1 wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 10:51:17 PM UTC-4, TT wrote:
    Shakes kirjoitti 9.9.2023 klo 5.43:
    Great match from him overall.

    That last game, both were clearly nervous. Alcaraz had his chances.
    Congrats Djokovic.
    Yep, pretty much!

    You think so? Let's see what happens.

    I guess it depends on whether the possessed Medvedev(from the match vs Alcaraz last night) shows up or not.

    I think in order for Medvedev to beat Djokovic, that possessed version better show up otherwise he ain't beating Djokovic. Medvedev is aware of this as he stated same in his press conference, i.e. that he has to play out of his skull to beat Djokovic.

    I would say it's 60-40 in favor of Djokovic.

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  • From RaspingDrive@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 9 19:12:20 2023
    On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 7:56:52 PM UTC-4, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 12:22:21 PM UTC-4, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:42:21 PM UTC-4, Court_1 wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 10:51:17 PM UTC-4, TT wrote:
    Shakes kirjoitti 9.9.2023 klo 5.43:
    Great match from him overall.

    That last game, both were clearly nervous. Alcaraz had his chances.
    Congrats Djokovic.
    Yep, pretty much!

    You think so? Let's see what happens.
    I guess it depends on whether the possessed Medvedev(from the match vs Alcaraz last night) shows up or not.

    I think in order for Medvedev to beat Djokovic, that possessed version better show up otherwise he ain't beating Djokovic. Medvedev is aware of this as he stated same in his press conference, i.e. that he has to play out of his skull to beat Djokovic.

    I would say it's 60-40 in favor of Djokovic.

    51-49 in favor of Medvedev :)

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to Shakes on Sun Sep 10 21:19:28 2023
    On 9/09/2023 2:24 pm, Shakes wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 7:51:17 PM UTC-7, TT wrote:
    Shakes kirjoitti 9.9.2023 klo 5.43:
    Great match from him overall.

    That last game, both were clearly nervous. Alcaraz had his chances.
    Congrats Djokovic.

    Not so fast. Remember 2021 USO F ?


    Novak was playing history that day not just Medvedev. Remember he beat Medvedev in AO final that yr 75 62 62. This time he has no real
    pressure as he already has the slam record and calendar slam is not on
    the line.

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to Shakes on Sun Sep 10 21:15:39 2023
    On 9/09/2023 12:43 pm, Shakes wrote:
    Great match from him overall.

    That last game, both were clearly nervous. Alcaraz had his chances.


    Yes, but Alcaraz wouldn't have been expecting this level from Medvedev.
    He's young and will learn to be prepared for anything in every match,
    much like Novak is today.

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 10 22:24:08 2023
    On 10/09/2023 9:56 am, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 12:22:21 PM UTC-4, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:42:21 PM UTC-4, Court_1 wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 10:51:17 PM UTC-4, TT wrote:
    Shakes kirjoitti 9.9.2023 klo 5.43:
    Great match from him overall.

    That last game, both were clearly nervous. Alcaraz had his chances.
    Congrats Djokovic.
    Yep, pretty much!

    You think so? Let's see what happens.

    I guess it depends on whether the possessed Medvedev(from the match vs Alcaraz last night) shows up or not.

    I think in order for Medvedev to beat Djokovic, that possessed version better show up otherwise he ain't beating Djokovic. Medvedev is aware of this as he stated same in his press conference, i.e. that he has to play out of his skull to beat Djokovic.

    I would say it's 60-40 in favor of Djokovic.



    90-10

    Medvedev said he needs to be 10 times better than 2021 USO, that can't
    happen.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=c3=b6s?=@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 10 16:08:37 2023
    On 10.9.2023 2.56, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 12:22:21 PM UTC-4, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:42:21 PM UTC-4, Court_1 wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 10:51:17 PM UTC-4, TT wrote:
    Shakes kirjoitti 9.9.2023 klo 5.43:
    Great match from him overall.

    That last game, both were clearly nervous. Alcaraz had his chances.
    Congrats Djokovic.
    Yep, pretty much!

    You think so? Let's see what happens.

    I guess it depends on whether the possessed Medvedev(from the match vs Alcaraz last night) shows up or not.

    I think in order for Medvedev to beat Djokovic, that possessed version better show up otherwise he ain't beating Djokovic.

    Chjok could show up.

    Medvedev is aware of this as he stated same in his press conference, i.e. that he has to play out of his skull to beat Djokovic.

    He's just piling it on Djok.

    I would say it's 60-40 in favor of Djokovic.

    52-48 Djok.

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  • From RaspingDrive@21:1/5 to Whisper on Sun Sep 10 08:27:47 2023
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 7:19:36 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 9/09/2023 2:24 pm, Shakes wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 7:51:17 PM UTC-7, TT wrote:
    Shakes kirjoitti 9.9.2023 klo 5.43:
    Great match from him overall.

    That last game, both were clearly nervous. Alcaraz had his chances.
    Congrats Djokovic.

    Not so fast. Remember 2021 USO F ?
    Novak was playing history that day not just Medvedev. Remember he beat Medvedev in AO final that yr 75 62 62. This time he has no real
    pressure as he already has the slam record and calendar slam is not on
    the line.

    Novak has lost many, many USO finals (2 to Nadal, 1 to Federer, 1 to Murray, 1 to Stan, 1 to Meds).

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  • From Gracchus@21:1/5 to RaspingDrive on Sun Sep 10 08:41:10 2023
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:27:50 AM UTC-7, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 7:19:36 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 9/09/2023 2:24 pm, Shakes wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 7:51:17 PM UTC-7, TT wrote:
    Shakes kirjoitti 9.9.2023 klo 5.43:
    Great match from him overall.

    That last game, both were clearly nervous. Alcaraz had his chances.
    Congrats Djokovic.

    Not so fast. Remember 2021 USO F ?
    Novak was playing history that day not just Medvedev. Remember he beat Medvedev in AO final that yr 75 62 62. This time he has no real
    pressure as he already has the slam record and calendar slam is not on
    the line.

    Novak has lost many, many USO finals (2 to Nadal, 1 to Federer, 1 to Murray, 1 to Stan, 1 to Meds).

    Those were all because Borg retired.

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to Whisper on Sun Sep 10 09:14:01 2023
    On 9/10/23 4:15 AM, Whisper wrote:
    On 9/09/2023 12:43 pm, Shakes wrote:
    Great match from him overall.

    That last game, both were clearly nervous. Alcaraz had his chances.


    Yes, but Alcaraz wouldn't have been expecting this level from
    Medvedev. He's young and will learn to be prepared for anything in
    every match, much like Novak is today.

    I think you--inadvertently and unawares, of course--hit on a problem
    unique to Alcaraz on the ATP tour as it is, presently: he has too damned
    many options available to him at any given moment, and he has to process
    these on almost every stroke of the ball.

    You can look at your own experience to see a very basic example. When
    playing at 4.5-5.5 level, if you have hit a good, deep slice BH approach
    to your opponent's FH corner, low and moving out of court, and they have
    to hit on the run, most will go down the line because they cannot
    effectively go x-court from that position--they'd have to get the
    racquet head *outside* of the ball, somewhat, to do it, and they just
    plain cannot. And even if they could, they'd have to pass the ball in
    front of you at the net. So they almost never try x-court from that
    position. It'll be either down the line or a lob.

    But Alcaraz can do almost anything from that position--but what he has
    to do is select which one of several. Over the course of 5 sets, I think
    this can take a mental toll. It could even make him slightly late in
    stroke preparation later in a match.

    But you've *really* got to strain to find problems with Alcaraz's game,
    no shit.

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to RaspingDrive on Sun Sep 10 09:16:22 2023
    On 9/10/23 8:27 AM, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 7:19:36 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 9/09/2023 2:24 pm, Shakes wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 7:51:17 PM UTC-7, TT wrote:
    Shakes kirjoitti 9.9.2023 klo 5.43:
    Great match from him overall.

    That last game, both were clearly nervous. Alcaraz had his chances.
    Congrats Djokovic.
    Not so fast. Remember 2021 USO F ?
    Novak was playing history that day not just Medvedev. Remember he beat
    Medvedev in AO final that yr 75 62 62. This time he has no real
    pressure as he already has the slam record and calendar slam is not on
    the line.
    Novak has lost many, many USO finals (2 to Nadal, 1 to Federer, 1 to Murray, 1 to Stan, 1 to Meds).

    Interesting to speculate what part of that record is court surface, h2h
    vs opponent, and/or bad ju-ju.

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  • From Court_1@21:1/5 to RaspingDrive on Sun Sep 10 13:14:07 2023
    On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 10:12:22 PM UTC-4, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 7:56:52 PM UTC-4, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 12:22:21 PM UTC-4, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:42:21 PM UTC-4, Court_1 wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 10:51:17 PM UTC-4, TT wrote:
    Shakes kirjoitti 9.9.2023 klo 5.43:
    Great match from him overall.

    That last game, both were clearly nervous. Alcaraz had his chances.
    Congrats Djokovic.
    Yep, pretty much!

    You think so? Let's see what happens.
    I guess it depends on whether the possessed Medvedev(from the match vs Alcaraz last night) shows up or not.

    I think in order for Medvedev to beat Djokovic, that possessed version better show up otherwise he ain't beating Djokovic. Medvedev is aware of this as he stated same in his press conference, i.e. that he has to play out of his skull to beat Djokovic.


    I would say it's 60-40 in favor of Djokovic.
    51-49 in favor of Medvedev :)

    Does your numerology tell you that or is it a gut feeling?

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  • From RaspingDrive@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 10 16:30:19 2023
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 4:14:09 PM UTC-4, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 10:12:22 PM UTC-4, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 7:56:52 PM UTC-4, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 12:22:21 PM UTC-4, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:42:21 PM UTC-4, Court_1 wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 10:51:17 PM UTC-4, TT wrote:
    Shakes kirjoitti 9.9.2023 klo 5.43:
    Great match from him overall.

    That last game, both were clearly nervous. Alcaraz had his chances.
    Congrats Djokovic.
    Yep, pretty much!

    You think so? Let's see what happens.
    I guess it depends on whether the possessed Medvedev(from the match vs Alcaraz last night) shows up or not.

    I think in order for Medvedev to beat Djokovic, that possessed version better show up otherwise he ain't beating Djokovic. Medvedev is aware of this as he stated same in his press conference, i.e. that he has to play out of his skull to beat
    Djokovic.

    I would say it's 60-40 in favor of Djokovic.
    51-49 in favor of Medvedev :)
    Does your numerology tell you that or is it a gut feeling?

    because he was impressive against Alcaraz and I thought that momentum was on his side. It seems I was wrong. Djok two points away from 24

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to RaspingDrive on Mon Sep 11 13:41:36 2023
    On 11/09/2023 1:27 am, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 7:19:36 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 9/09/2023 2:24 pm, Shakes wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 7:51:17 PM UTC-7, TT wrote:
    Shakes kirjoitti 9.9.2023 klo 5.43:
    Great match from him overall.

    That last game, both were clearly nervous. Alcaraz had his chances.
    Congrats Djokovic.

    Not so fast. Remember 2021 USO F ?
    Novak was playing history that day not just Medvedev. Remember he beat
    Medvedev in AO final that yr 75 62 62. This time he has no real
    pressure as he already has the slam record and calendar slam is not on
    the line.

    Novak has lost many, many USO finals (2 to Nadal, 1 to Federer, 1 to Murray, 1 to Stan, 1 to Meds).


    Yes, 3 were upsets so odds are he can't lose today : )

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