• Djokovic is the favorite to win this is open

    From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 7 10:35:20 2023
    This is based on few betting sites I checked.

    Here is one

    https://www.nj.bet365.com/?_h=paoePvr5ViCo681OeFlsCg%3D%3D#/AC/B13/C20904590/D690/E94169147/F4/


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  • From Ocean Naught@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 7 09:25:40 2023
    Alcaraz will win.

    Djokovic won RG in 2016, lost USO final.
    Djokovic won RG in 2021, lost USO final.
    Djokovic won RG in 2023, will lose USO final.

    It's too much to expect him to win his two weakest slams in the same year.

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Thu Sep 7 18:34:53 2023
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    This is based on few betting sites I checked.Here is onehttps://www.nj.bet365.com/?_h=paoePvr5ViCo681OeFlsCg%3D%3D#/AC/B13/C20904590/D690/E94169147/F4/-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html



    Your hero is trying to jinx Djokovic as well.


    https://www.tennis365.com/tennis-news/roger-federer-picks-us-open-favourite-novak-djokovic

    Roger Federer has revealed Novak Djokovic is his favourite to win the 2023 US Open men’s singles title, describing his former rival as “a safe bet.”


    So a 36-year old, even before reaching final (has to be beat Shelton first) is a "safe bet" in a potential final against a 20-year old tennis wonder who already beat Djokovic in Wimbledon final?

    Interesting.



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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to skriptis@post.t-com.hr on Thu Sep 7 14:28:20 2023
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    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r> This is based on few betting sites I checked.Here is onehttps://www.nj.bet365.com/?_h=paoePvr5ViCo681OeFlsCg%3D%3D#/AC/B13/C20904590/D690/E94169147/F4/-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://
    piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlYour hero is trying to jinx Djokovic as well.https://www.tennis365.com/tennis-news/roger-federer-picks-us-open-favourite-novak-djokovicRoger Federer has revealed Novak Djokovic is his favourite to win
    the 2023 US Open mens singles title, describing his former rival as a safe bet.So a 36-year old, even before reaching final (has to be beat Shelton first) is a "safe bet" in a potential final against a 20-year old tennis wonder who already beat
    Djokovic in Wimbledon final?Interesting.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html

    I am sure you would be upset too if he said Alcaraz is the favorite.
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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Thu Sep 7 20:42:19 2023
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r> This is based on few betting sites I checked.Here is onehttps://www.nj.bet365.com/?_h=paoePvr5ViCo681OeFlsCg%3D%3D#/AC/B13/C20904590/D690/
    E94169147/F4/-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlYour hero is trying to jinx Djokovic as well.https://www.tennis365.com/tennis-news/roger-federer-picks-us-open-favourite-novak-djokovicRoger
    Federer has revealed Novak Djokovic is his favourite to win the 2023 US Open men’s singles title, describing his former rival as “a safe bet.”So a 36-year old, even before reaching final (has to be beat Shelton first) is a "safe bet" in a potential
    final against a 20-year old tennis wonder who already beat Djokovic in Wimbledon final?Interesting.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlI am sure you would be upset too if he said Alcaraz is the
    favorite.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html




    Alcaraz is younger, has beaten Djokovic in Wimbledon final, and is seed #1.

    What is not clear here?

    To say "Djokovic is a safe bet to win the title", it's pure malice.


    Federer at his best really.


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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to skriptis@post.t-com.hr on Thu Sep 7 16:57:17 2023
    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r> *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r> This is based on few betting sites I checked.Here is onehttps://www.nj.bet365.com/
    ?_h=paoePvr5ViCo681OeFlsCg%3D%3D#/AC/B13/C20904590/D690/E94169147/F4/-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlYour hero is trying to jinx Djokovic as well.https://www.tennis365.com/tennis-news/roger-
    federer-picks-us-open-favourite-novak-djokovicRoger Federer has revealed Novak Djokovic is his favourite to win the 2023 US Open mens singles title, describing his former rival as a safe bet.So a 36-year old, even before reaching final (has to be beat
    Shelton first) is a "safe bet" in a potential final against a 20-year old tennis wonder who already beat Djokovic in Wimbledon final?Interesting.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlI am sure you
    would be upset too if he said Alcaraz is the favorite.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlAlcaraz is younger, has beaten Djokovic in Wimbledon final, and is seed #1.What is not clear here?To say
    "Djokovic is a safe bet to win the title", it's pure malice.Federer at his best really.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html

    I wish I see Alcaraz is the favorite but I don't.

    Alcaraz showed vulnerability while Djokovic showed steadiness.

    Djokovic won their cinci meeting and has won like 100 hc slams including this AO.
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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Thu Sep 7 23:10:17 2023
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r> *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r> This is based on few
    betting sites I checked.Here is onehttps://www.nj.bet365.com/?_h=paoePvr5ViCo681OeFlsCg%3D%3D#/AC/B13/C20904590/D690/E94169147/F4/-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlYour hero is trying to jinx
    Djokovic as well.https://www.tennis365.com/tennis-news/roger-federer-picks-us-open-favourite-novak-djokovicRoger Federer has revealed Novak Djokovic is his favourite to win the 2023 US Open men’s singles title, describing his former rival as “a safe
    bet.”So a 36-year old, even before reaching final (has to be beat Shelton first) is a "safe bet" in a potential final against a 20-year old tennis wonder who already beat Djokovic in Wimbledon final?Interesting.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https:/
    /piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlI am sure you would be upset too if he said Alcaraz is the favorite.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlAlcaraz is younger, has beaten
    Djokovic in Wimbledon final, and is seed #1.What is not clear here?To say "Djokovic is a safe bet to win the title", it's pure malice.Federer at his best really.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.
    htmlI wish I see Alcaraz is the favorite but I don't.Alcaraz showed vulnerability while Djokovic showed steadiness.Djokovic won their cinci meeting and has won like 100 hc slams including this AO.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-
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    Alcaraz sucked in Cincinnati as well, winning all of his matches in 3 sets, and then had a match point to beat Djokovic in 2 sets.

    Meaning he's an immense talent, able to lift up his game at any point. So even if he doesn't look great, he can be great.

    Djokovic is still a contender and I'm glad he is. But even if you think he's the favorite based on showed form or Alcaraz lack of it, I've explained it can be misleading.

    But even if he is, be can only be a slight favourite based on showed form, And that's far from a "safe bet".


    Safe bet is really nothing more than a jinx wish.


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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to skriptis@post.t-com.hr on Thu Sep 7 18:15:27 2023
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    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r> *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r> *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@
    gmail.com> Wrote in message:r> This is based on few betting sites I checked.Here is onehttps://www.nj.bet365.com/?_h=paoePvr5ViCo681OeFlsCg%3D%3D#/AC/B13/C20904590/D690/E94169147/F4/-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.
    amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlYour hero is trying to jinx Djokovic as well.https://www.tennis365.com/tennis-news/roger-federer-picks-us-open-favourite-novak-djokovicRoger Federer has revealed Novak Djokovic is his favourite to win the 2023 US Open mens
    singles title, describing his former rival as a safe bet.So a 36-year old, even before reaching final (has to be beat Shelton first) is a "safe bet" in a potential final against a 20-year old tennis wonder who already beat Djokovic in Wimbledon final?
    Interesting.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlI am sure you would be upset too if he said Alcaraz is the favorite.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/
    usenet/index.htmlAlcaraz is younger, has beaten Djokovic in Wimbledon final, and is seed #1.What is not clear here?To say "Djokovic is a safe bet to win the title", it's pure malice.Federer at his best really.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://
    piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlI wish I see Alcaraz is the favorite but I don't.Alcaraz showed vulnerability while Djokovic showed steadiness.Djokovic won their cinci meeting and has won like 100 hc slams including this AO.-- ----
    Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlAlcaraz sucked in Cincinnati as well, winning all of his matches in 3 sets, and then had a match point to beat Djokovic in 2 sets.Meaning he's an immense talent,
    able to lift up his game at any point. So even if he doesn't look great, he can be great.Djokovic is still a contender and I'm glad he is. But even if you think he's the favorite based on showed form or Alcaraz lack of it, I've explained it can be
    misleading.But even if he is, be can only be a slight favourite based on showed form, And that's far from a "safe bet".Safe bet is really nothing more than a jinx wish.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/
    index.html

    You just said the same thing "So even if he doesn't look great, he can be".

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 8 11:21:14 2023
    PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 7.9.2023 klo 17.35:
    This is based on few betting sites I checked.

    Here is one

    https://www.nj.bet365.com/?_h=paoePvr5ViCo681OeFlsCg%3D%3D#/AC/B13/C20904590/D690/E94169147/F4/



    Well what would you expect...

    Djokovic is playing US Open ATP 500 event. He has the cakewalk and gets
    to eat it too.

    The only test will come in the final, and it's possible Alkie & Meds
    will tire each other out in a long slugfest.

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 8 11:22:40 2023
    Ocean Naught kirjoitti 7.9.2023 klo 19.25:
    Alcaraz will win.

    Djokovic won RG in 2016, lost USO final.
    Djokovic won RG in 2021, lost USO final.
    Djokovic won RG in 2023, will lose USO final.

    It's too much to expect him to win his two weakest slams in the same year.

    Shit, Ocea prediction. This means that Djokovic wins now. Thanks a bunch.

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 8 18:44:24 2023
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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 8 18:51:46 2023
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  • From MBDunc@21:1/5 to Whisper on Sat Sep 9 05:07:38 2023
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:44:41 AM UTC+3, Whisper wrote:
    On 8/09/2023 4:42 am, *skriptis wrote:
    Yes I agree. Federer doesn't want to give Novak any extra incentive to
    win, and doubting his chances publicly would do that.

    It is just politics.

    Fed Saying: "Alcaraz will surely win", would actually mock Fed/Nadal era down as it would be proof
    that even Djoker who manhandled eventually both is not enough for the next gen.

    But we got juicy one:

    Meds vs Djoker

    If Meds wins it will be very juicy 3-way race for year-end #1.

    .mikko

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