• (OT) Nordea: The Gween Twansition can be a lottery jackpot for little F

    From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=c3=b6s?=@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 6 14:35:56 2023
    https://www-hs-fi.translate.goog/talous/art-2000009831437.html?_x_tr_sl=fi&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=fi&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_hist=true

    But ... but ... but. Tiny of Finland says this is all hogwash. He says
    we should buy coal from Germany and make cheap domestic electricity out
    of it in Finland. That's a gold mine.

    It's obvious economists aren't what they used to be.

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 7 06:55:29 2023
    On Wednesday, 6 September 2023 at 12:36:00 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    https://www-hs-fi.translate.goog/talous/art-2000009831437.html?_x_tr_sl=fi&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=fi&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_hist=true

    But ... but ... but. Tiny of Finland says this is all hogwash. He says
    we should buy coal from Germany and make cheap domestic electricity out
    of it in Finland. That's a gold mine.

    It's obvious economists aren't what they used to be.

    these economists keep saying it's cheaper yet it's always the highest price in history or costs $BILLIONS in hidden costs, why is that?

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 8 11:45:18 2023
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 6.9.2023 klo 14.35:
    https://www-hs-fi.translate.goog/talous/art-2000009831437.html?_x_tr_sl=fi&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=fi&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_hist=true

    But ... but ... but. Tiny of Finland says this is all hogwash. He says
    we should buy coal from Germany and make cheap domestic electricity out
    of it in Finland. That's a gold mine.

    It's obvious economists aren't what they used to be.


    There is zero money to be made from green energy for Finland. Only ones benefiting are the companies which come in for the quick buck subsidized
    by the government...

    1. Hydrogen economy doesn't work.
    2. You can't sell wind power abroad as when the wind blows in Finland
    it's usually the same across all of Baltic Sea.

    So only place to sell is Estonia, until they soon get more windmills.
    But we buy energy from Sweden.
    Minerals for batteries is a business, but Finland mines may not be rich
    enough in minerals. At best one can sell Germany some bio plant and
    that's it.

    I repeat, hydrogen economy does not work. It's a complete hoax.
    If these analysts don't know that then they have no understanding
    whatsoever about matters of energy/green transition.

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 8 02:11:40 2023
    On Friday, 8 September 2023 at 09:45:22 UTC+1, TT wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 6.9.2023 klo 14.35:
    https://www-hs-fi.translate.goog/talous/art-2000009831437.html?_x_tr_sl=fi&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=fi&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_hist=true

    But ... but ... but. Tiny of Finland says this is all hogwash. He says
    we should buy coal from Germany and make cheap domestic electricity out
    of it in Finland. That's a gold mine.

    It's obvious economists aren't what they used to be.

    There is zero money to be made from green energy for Finland. Only ones benefiting are the companies which come in for the quick buck subsidized
    by the government...

    1. Hydrogen economy doesn't work.
    2. You can't sell wind power abroad as when the wind blows in Finland
    it's usually the same across all of Baltic Sea.

    So only place to sell is Estonia, until they soon get more windmills.
    But we buy energy from Sweden.
    Minerals for batteries is a business, but Finland mines may not be rich enough in minerals. At best one can sell Germany some bio plant and
    that's it.

    I repeat, hydrogen economy does not work. It's a complete hoax.
    If these analysts don't know that then they have no understanding
    whatsoever about matters of energy/green transition.

    Pelle knows all this but he seems to really hate Finland, look he even calls it "little Finland" to be demeaning to the country. Really don't get why he doesn't move to Africa or the Middle East, surely he'd be much much happier there and wouldn't hate
    the people/society so much at least?

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=c3=b6s?=@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Fri Sep 8 14:48:05 2023
    On 8.9.2023 12.11, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Friday, 8 September 2023 at 09:45:22 UTC+1, TT wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 6.9.2023 klo 14.35:
    https://www-hs-fi.translate.goog/talous/art-2000009831437.html?_x_tr_sl=fi&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=fi&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_hist=true

    But ... but ... but. Tiny of Finland says this is all hogwash. He says
    we should buy coal from Germany and make cheap domestic electricity out
    of it in Finland. That's a gold mine.

    It's obvious economists aren't what they used to be.

    There is zero money to be made from green energy for Finland. Only ones
    benefiting are the companies which come in for the quick buck subsidized
    by the government...

    1. Hydrogen economy doesn't work.
    2. You can't sell wind power abroad as when the wind blows in Finland
    it's usually the same across all of Baltic Sea.

    So only place to sell is Estonia, until they soon get more windmills.
    But we buy energy from Sweden.
    Minerals for batteries is a business, but Finland mines may not be rich
    enough in minerals. At best one can sell Germany some bio plant and
    that's it.

    I repeat, hydrogen economy does not work. It's a complete hoax.
    If these analysts don't know that then they have no understanding
    whatsoever about matters of energy/green transition.

    Pelle knows all this but he seems to really hate Finland, look he even calls it "little Finland" to be demeaning to the country. Really don't get why he doesn't move to Africa or the Middle East, surely he'd be much much happier there and wouldn't hate
    the people/society so much at least?

    You chumps are a gas.

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    The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 8 09:43:44 2023
    On 9/8/23 1:45 AM, TT wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 6.9.2023 klo 14.35:
    https://www-hs-fi.translate.goog/talous/art-2000009831437.html?_x_tr_sl=fi&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=fi&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_hist=true


    But ... but ... but. Tiny of Finland says this is all hogwash. He
    says we should buy coal from Germany and make cheap domestic
    electricity out of it in Finland. That's a gold mine.

    It's obvious economists aren't what they used to be.


    There is zero money to be made from green energy for Finland. Only
    ones benefiting are the companies which come in for the quick buck
    subsidized by the government...

    1. Hydrogen economy doesn't work.
    2. You can't sell wind power abroad as when the wind blows in Finland
    it's usually the same across all of Baltic Sea.

    So only place to sell is Estonia, until they soon get more windmills.
    But we buy energy from Sweden.
    Minerals for batteries is a business, but Finland mines may not be
    rich enough in minerals. At best one can sell Germany some bio plant
    and that's it.

    I repeat, hydrogen economy does not work. It's a complete hoax.
    If these analysts don't know that then they have no understanding
    whatsoever about matters of energy/green transition.

    "hydrogen economy"

    This is hydrogen fuel cells, TT?

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