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    From Court_1@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 5 19:16:09 2023
    Forget all of this monotonous talk about which Big Three member is the greatest. What's the word on this kid from the US, Ben Shelton?

    Does he have what it takes to do big things? He has a huge serve and looks like he has a fairly complete game. He seems a lot more muscular than I remember him looking a few short months ago! 🤔

    We need some great players from the US. It's been too long.

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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 5 19:56:21 2023
    On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 10:16:11 PM UTC-4, Court_1 wrote:
    Forget all of this monotonous talk about which Big Three member is the greatest. What's the word on this kid from the US, Ben Shelton?

    Does he have what it takes to do big things? He has a huge serve and looks like he has a fairly complete game. He seems a lot more muscular than I remember him looking a few short months ago! 🤔

    We need some great players from the US. It's been too long.

    I need to see more game than 150mph serves to make my mind, but we have made our minds in past on many youngsters when they first came like tsi, shapo, sinners, dimi, etc.

    I hope you enjoyed Fritts today :)

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  • From Gracchus@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 5 21:02:56 2023
    On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 7:16:11 PM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:
    Forget all of this monotonous talk about which Big Three member is the greatest. What's the word on this kid from the US, Ben Shelton?

    Does he have what it takes to do big things? He has a huge serve and looks like he has a fairly complete game. He seems a lot more muscular than I remember him looking a few short months ago! 🤔

    We need some great players from the US. It's been too long.

    Shelton is giving "Big 'Foe" all he can handle right now. Up two sets to one. If he wins, he's forgiven for looking goofy. ;)

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  • From Court_1@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Tue Sep 5 20:21:13 2023
    On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 10:56:23 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 10:16:11 PM UTC-4, Court_1 wrote:
    Forget all of this monotonous talk about which Big Three member is the greatest. What's the word on this kid from the US, Ben Shelton?

    Does he have what it takes to do big things? He has a huge serve and looks like he has a fairly complete game. He seems a lot more muscular than I remember him looking a few short months ago! 🤔

    We need some great players from the US. It's been too long.


    I need to see more game than 150mph serves to make my mind, but we have made our minds in past on many youngsters when they first came like tsi, shapo, sinners, dimi, etc.

    Yes. Tsitsipas, Shapo, Sinner, Dimitrov--all disappointments relative to our lofty expectations. You just never know for sure how it's going to work out.

    I hope you enjoyed Fritts today :)

    I wasn't able to watch the cutie Fritz-Gumby match. I didn't record it either. No great loss. Gumby
    vanquished Fritz. Fritz is now officially Gumby's pet poodle. 🙄

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to Gracchus on Wed Sep 6 00:44:32 2023
    On Wednesday, 6 September 2023 at 05:02:58 UTC+1, Gracchus wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 7:16:11 PM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:
    Forget all of this monotonous talk about which Big Three member is the greatest. What's the word on this kid from the US, Ben Shelton?

    Does he have what it takes to do big things? He has a huge serve and looks like he has a fairly complete game. He seems a lot more muscular than I remember him looking a few short months ago! 🤔

    We need some great players from the US. It's been too long.
    Shelton is giving "Big 'Foe" all he can handle right now. Up two sets to one. If he wins, he's forgiven for looking goofy. ;)

    Shelton wins and rightly so! he seems to be in super form.

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 6 22:59:52 2023
    On 6/09/2023 12:16 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    Forget all of this monotonous talk about which Big Three member is the greatest. What's the word on this kid from the US, Ben Shelton?

    Does he have what it takes to do big things? He has a huge serve and looks like he has a fairly complete game. He seems a lot more muscular than I remember him looking a few short months ago! 🤔

    We need some great players from the US. It's been too long.


    Huge nuclear game and no fear - kinda like Ostapenko on steroids : )

    I guess no reason he can't win Wimbledon if Carlos/Novak falter for any
    reason. He seems to have more firepower overall than other big hitters
    like Berretini and Kyrgios who are more 1 dimensional and have crap
    backhands. I can't see him beating Novak here though. As big as his
    serve is he still found a way to get broken 3 times in 1 set v Tiafoe,
    who is nowhere near the returner Novak is.

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Wed Sep 6 23:00:50 2023
    On 6/09/2023 12:56 pm, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 10:16:11 PM UTC-4, Court_1 wrote:
    Forget all of this monotonous talk about which Big Three member is the greatest. What's the word on this kid from the US, Ben Shelton?

    Does he have what it takes to do big things? He has a huge serve and looks like he has a fairly complete game. He seems a lot more muscular than I remember him looking a few short months ago! 🤔

    We need some great players from the US. It's been too long.

    I need to see more game than 150mph serves to make my mind, but we have made our minds in past on many youngsters when they first came like tsi, shapo, sinners, dimi, etc.

    I hope you enjoyed Fritts today :)


    He has more power from more parts of his game than Kyrgios and
    Berretinni, and they made Wimbledon finals.

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  • From undecided@21:1/5 to Whisper on Wed Sep 6 06:37:09 2023
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 4:01:21 PM UTC+3, Whisper wrote:
    On 6/09/2023 12:56 pm, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 10:16:11 PM UTC-4, Court_1 wrote:
    Forget all of this monotonous talk about which Big Three member is the greatest. What's the word on this kid from the US, Ben Shelton?

    Does he have what it takes to do big things? He has a huge serve and looks like he has a fairly complete game. He seems a lot more muscular than I remember him looking a few short months ago! 🤔

    We need some great players from the US. It's been too long.

    I need to see more game than 150mph serves to make my mind, but we have made our minds in past on many youngsters when they first came like tsi, shapo, sinners, dimi, etc.

    I hope you enjoyed Fritts today :)
    He has more power from more parts of his game than Kyrgios and
    Berretinni, and they made Wimbledon finals.
    He will be taken apart by any decent player (Not Tiafoe). Tsitsipas picked him apart recently. And this is coming from me, a BIG Shelton fan. Shelton's game is still raw. He gets by with energy and power.

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  • From grif@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 6 15:50:11 2023
    On 06/09/2023 03:16, Court_1 wrote:
    Forget all of this monotonous talk about which Big Three member is the greatest. What's the word on this kid from the US, Ben Shelton?

    Does he have what it takes to do big things? He has a huge serve and looks like he has a fairly complete game. He seems a lot more muscular than I remember him looking a few short months ago! 🤔

    We need some great players from the US. It's been too long.

    https://www.atptour.com/en/news/shelton-us-open-2023-feature

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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to undecided on Wed Sep 6 10:55:29 2023
    undecided <costasz@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 4:01:21PM UTC+3, Whisper wrote:> On 6/09/2023 12:56 pm, PeteWasLucky wrote: > > On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 10:16:11PM UTC-4, Court_1 wrote: > >> Forget all of this monotonous talk about which Big Three member
    is the greatest. What's the word on this kid from the US, Ben Shelton? > >> > >> Does he have what it takes to do big things? He has a huge serve and looks like he has a fairly complete game. He seems a lot more muscular than I remember him looking a few
    short months ago!  > >> > >> We need some great players from the US. It's been too long. > > > > I need to see more game than 150mph serves to make my mind, but we have made our minds in past on many youngsters when they first came like tsi, shapo,
    sinners, dimi, etc. > > > > I hope you enjoyed Fritts today :)> He has more power from more parts of his game than Kyrgios and > Berretinni, and they made Wimbledon finals.He will be taken apart by any decent player (Not Tiafoe). Tsitsipas picked him
    apart recently. And this is coming from me, a BIG Shelton fan. Shelton's game is still raw. He gets by with energy and power.

    He could be another Shapo.
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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to Whisper on Wed Sep 6 09:01:11 2023
    On 9/6/23 5:59 AM, Whisper wrote:
    On 6/09/2023 12:16 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    Forget all of this monotonous talk about which Big Three member is
    the greatest. What's the word on this kid from the US, Ben Shelton?

    Does he have what it takes to do big things? He has a huge serve and
    looks like he has a fairly complete game. He seems a lot more
    muscular than I remember him looking a few short months ago! 🤔

    We need some great players from the US. It's been too long.


    Huge nuclear game and no fear - kinda like Ostapenko on steroids : )

    I guess no reason he can't win Wimbledon if Carlos/Novak falter for
    any reason.  He seems to have more firepower overall than other big
    hitters like Berretini and Kyrgios who are more 1 dimensional and have
    crap backhands.  I can't see him beating Novak here though.  As big as
    his serve is he still found a way to get broken 3 times in 1 set v
    Tiafoe, who is nowhere near the returner Novak is.




    His BH looks like a placeholder, not a weapon. THat's where his
    opponents should go as much as possible.

    Of course, Tiafoe seemed not to notice this, or ignored it...

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  • From MBDunc@21:1/5 to Whisper on Fri Sep 8 22:28:13 2023
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 4:01:21 PM UTC+3, Whisper wrote:
    He has more power from more parts of his game than Kyrgios and
    Berretinni, and they made Wimbledon finals.

    Niche stat:

    Shelton made the all-time 2nd fastest 2nd serve in SF (143mph)

    Opelka has the record (144mph).

    .mikko

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