I'm watching these two females and Ostapenkova took bathroom break after being bageled in set 1.

Mary then proceeds commentating "oh what a spectacle awaits is tonight, imagine, two African Americans playing night session tonight, on Arthur Ashe stadium konless, imagine...and then continues with some weird sounds coming from her stomach it could be
orgasm or something like that" and I'm like wtf.


Why should we care about two niggers playing in slam QF, what kind of world is this?

If it's a non race world, then if shouldn't matter, no?

If it's a race world, then how come she expects everyone would be for niggers? Niggers might be for that, but others won't be.




It's beyond pathetic. She should retire from public life in shame and live in a cave for the rest of her life.



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On 9/5/23 9:44 AM, *skriptis wrote:> I'm watching these two females and Ostapenkova took bathroom break after being bageled in set 1.>> Mary then proceeds commentating "oh what a spectacle awaits is tonight, imagine, two African Americans playing night

session tonight, on Arthur Ashe stadium konless, imagine...and then continues with some weird sounds coming from her stomach it could be orgasm or something like that" and I'm like wtf.>>> Why should we care about two niggers playing in slam QF, what
kind of world is this?>> If it's a non race world, then if shouldn't matter, no?>> If it's a race world, then how come she expects everyone would be for niggers? Niggers might be for that, but others won't be.>>>>> It's beyond pathetic. She should retire
from public life in shame and live in a cave for the rest of her life.>>>I can't speak to the accuracy of this, skript, but it does raise something that has interested me for a long time: the "one drop" perception common in places like the US.It's where
one drop of African blood makes the individual by definition black. This is from the POV of whites.So I suspect that she's talking about Tiafoe playing Shelton, and the latter is only nominally black, to my perception.Now, I care less about whether this
is fair or not (who cares?) but *why* one drop of white blood does not make a black African *white* from the POV of blacks....or does it?Is it less a genetic judgement than a behavioral one. E.g., Madison Keyes acts about as white as anyone I've seen, so
might she be considered a darker skinned "white" person, like Alcaraz is?Further along this line of thought is Caucasian/Asian mixed race, or Caucasian/Am-Indian. So if one were to evaluate--AHEM!--acceptability from the Caucasian POV, the order might be
Caucasian admixtures with the following phenotypes: East Asian, Am-Indian, African. And this seems to have a lot to do with perceived stereotypical behavior associated with each group.It's complex and interesting, and especially so if we entertain
the observation that in many locales, blacks, themselves, seem to give greater status to light-skin than to darker skin. One might ascribe this to the influence of white colonial authority, but is this strictly true? Do cultures of color place a higher
value on fairness than otherwise? I believe that east Asians may also esteem lighter skin color. This is not to say that they esteem non-Asian physical features, but simply that fairer is better, at least for females.If this is pervasive and
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You've raised an interesting issue, sure we can discuss it, but you've also missed the point I've raised I feel.

I'm just wondering why do fuck a white female TV commentator would be ecstatic about two blacks playing in a stadium named after a tier IV tennis great who happens to be black?

What's in it for her?

Yet she's ecstatic and behaves as if it's a spectacle for all other people, something to celebrate?

Why should whites or yellows celebrate black tennis success?

It's utterly bizarre.


Sick.





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On 9/5/23 9:44 AM, *skriptis wrote:

I'm watching these two females and Ostapenkova took bathroom break after being bageled in set 1.

Mary then proceeds commentating "oh what a spectacle awaits is tonight, imagine, two African Americans playing night session tonight, on Arthur Ashe stadium konless, imagine...and then continues with some weird sounds coming from her stomach it could

be orgasm or something like that" and I'm like wtf.

Why should we care about two niggers playing in slam QF, what kind of world is this?

If it's a non race world, then if shouldn't matter, no?

If it's a race world, then how come she expects everyone would be for niggers? Niggers might be for that, but others won't be.

It's beyond pathetic. She should retire from public life in shame and live in a cave for the rest of her life.

I can't speak to the accuracy of this, skript, but it does raise
something that has interested me for a long time: the "one drop"
perception common in places like the US.

It's where one drop of African blood makes the individual by definition
black. This is from the POV of whites.

So I suspect that she's talking about Tiafoe playing Shelton, and the
latter is only nominally black, to my perception.

Now, I care less about whether this is fair or not (who cares?) but
*why* one drop of white blood does not make a black African *white* from
the POV of blacks.

...or does it?

Is it less a genetic judgement than a behavioral one. E.g., Madison
Keyes acts about as white as anyone I've seen, so might she be
considered a darker skinned "white" person, like Alcaraz is?

Further along this line of thought is Caucasian/Asian mixed race, or Caucasian/Am-Indian. So if one were to evaluate--AHEM!--acceptability
from the Caucasian POV, the order might be Caucasian admixtures with the following phenotypes: East Asian, Am-Indian, African. And this seems to
have     a lot to do with perceived stereotypical behavior associated
with each group.

It's complex and interesting, and especially so if we entertain the
observation that in many locales, blacks, themselves, seem to give
greater status to light-skin than to darker skin. One might ascribe this
to the influence of white colonial authority, but is this strictly true?
Do cultures of color place a higher value on fairness than otherwise? I
believe that east Asians may also esteem lighter skin color. This is not
to say that they esteem non-Asian physical features, but simply that
fairer is better, at least for females.

If this is pervasive and independently true, what is that all about, anyway?

It's very mysterious to me.

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*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r

I'm watching these two females and Ostapenkova took bathroom break after being bageled in set 1.Mary then proceeds commentating "oh what a spectacle awaits is tonight, imagine, two African Americans playing night session tonight, on Arthur Ashe stadium

konless, imagine...and then continues with some weird sounds coming from her stomach it could be orgasm or something like that" and I'm like wtf.Why should we care about two niggers playing in slam QF, what kind of world is this?If it's a non race world,
then if shouldn't matter, no?If it's a race world, then how come she expects everyone would be for niggers? Niggers might be for that, but others won't be.It's beyond pathetic. She should retire from public life in shame and live in a cave for the rest
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You could have made the same point and got more interest if you chose not to be this rude and intentionally use the N word.
You simply confirm everything being said about Russia and Russians.
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PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

You could have made the same point and got more interest if you chose not to be this rude and intentionally use the N word.You simply confirm everything being said about Russia and Russians.

Your culture is not my culture. Your taboos are not my taboos.

Besides, since it's not even illegal there, you have no rational grounds to demand anything from me.

It's not sanctioned by law in your country, and it's not formal religion in your faith.

So it's not even rude to the extent you want it (or you're taught) to be rude.



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On 5.9.2023 20.43, Pelle Svanslös wrote:

On 5.9.2023 20.32, *skriptis wrote:

You've raised an interesting issue, sure we can discuss it, but you've
also missed the point I've raised I feel.

Not to worry, twist. sawfish regularly misses the points he raises.

Woof.

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On 5.9.2023 20.32, *skriptis wrote:

You've raised an interesting issue, sure we can discuss it, but you've also missed the point I've raised I feel.

Not to worry, twist. sawfish regularly misses the points he raises.

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PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

Human decency is a virtue, has nothing to do with religion, faith or your taboos.

Yeah this is so decent of you. Let's be decent.


"You simply confirm everything being said about Russia and Russians."





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*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r

PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:> You could have made the same point and got more interest if you chose not to be this rude and intentionally use the N word.You simply confirm everything being said about Russia and Russians.Your

culture is not my culture. Your taboos are not my taboos.Besides, since it's not even illegal there, you have no rational grounds to demand anything from me.It's not sanctioned by law in your country, and it's not formal religion in your faith.So it's
not even rude to the extent you want it (or you're taught) to be rude.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html

Human decency is a virtue, has nothing to do with religion, faith or your taboos.


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*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r

PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:> Human decency is a virtue, has nothing to do with religion, faith or your taboos.Yeah this is so decent of you. Let's be decent."You simply confirm everything being said about Russia and Russians.

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I don't get it really. Somehow you said you are entitled to use the N word and that your faith, religion and taboos are okay with your act then you get sensitive when your act is said to be typical for your people.

Explain...

Also you are Christian, correct? How is it that your religion is fine with your behavior?

Another explanation is needed...
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Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On 9/5/23 9:44 AM, *skriptis wrote:> I'm watching these two females and Ostapenkova took bathroom break after being bageled in set 1.>> Mary then proceeds commentating "oh what a spectacle awaits is tonight, imagine, two African Americans playing night

session tonight, on Arthur Ashe stadium konless, imagine...and then continues with some weird sounds coming from her stomach it could be orgasm or something like that" and I'm like wtf.>>> Why should we care about two niggers playing in slam QF, what
kind of world is this?>> If it's a non race world, then if shouldn't matter, no?>> If it's a race world, then how come she expects everyone would be for niggers? Niggers might be for that, but others won't be.>>>>> It's beyond pathetic. She should retire
from public life in shame and live in a cave for the rest of her life.>>>I can't speak to the accuracy of this, skript, but it does raise something that has interested me for a long time: the "one drop" perception common in places like the US.It's where
one drop of African blood makes the individual by definition black. This is from the POV of whites.So I suspect that she's talking about Tiafoe playing Shelton, and the latter is only nominally black, to my perception.Now, I care less about whether this
is fair or not (who cares?) but *why* one drop of white blood does not make a black African *white* from the POV of blacks....or does it?Is it less a genetic judgement than a behavioral one. E.g., Madison Keyes acts about as white as anyone I've seen, so
might she be considered a darker skinned "white" person, like Alcaraz is?Further along this line of thought is Caucasian/Asian mixed race, or Caucasian/Am-Indian. So if one were to evaluate--AHEM!--acceptability from the Caucasian POV, the order might be
Caucasian admixtures with the following phenotypes: East Asian, Am-Indian, African. And this seems to have a lot to do with perceived stereotypical behavior associated with each group.It's complex and interesting, and especially so if we entertain
the observation that in many locales, blacks, themselves, seem to give greater status to light-skin than to darker skin. One might ascribe this to the influence of white colonial authority, but is this strictly true? Do cultures of color place a higher
value on fairness than otherwise? I believe that east Asians may also esteem lighter skin color. This is not to say that they esteem non-Asian physical features, but simply that fairer is better, at least for females.If this is pervasive and
independently true, what is that all about, anyway?It's very mysterious to me.-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Man! I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!" --Sawfish




Now to address this issue, yes of course everyone prefers fairer skin. I guess it's in all cultures?

Women are fairer and everyone is after women and so on, it's evolutionary.

It can be exotic (fetish) to an extent if a girl is of darker skin so mildly attractive, just as someone would fetishize about tall women, but a lighter skin is generally feminine trait and a darker skin is generally more masculine trait, accross all
cultures, same as height (tall men, shorter for women).

It's not a rocket science.

Which then would explain kinda hysterical one drop rule among American whites? The black admixture is a penetration of a other masculine force?



Note than Nazis said you're entitled for German citizenship even with a 50% Jew blood?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Laws

Mischling ersten Grades
Mixed race (first degree)
3⁄8 or 1⁄2 Jewish
Only partly belongs to the German race and nation; approved to have Reich citizenship



So Nazis would welcome Obama (who is 50-50), whereas I assume KKK would not?

So KKK has more rigid rules, no?



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PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

Somehow you said you are entitled to use the N word and that your faith, religion and taboos are okay with your act then you get sensitive when your act is said to be typical for your people.Explain...Also you are Christian, correct? How is it that

your religion is fine with your behavior?Another explanation is needed...


Anyone using the term "N-word" unironically in an anonymous online forum, as anything other than a joke, is worthy of pity.

You're a laughing stock. Who are you afraid of? Pathetic.


If you use it for humourous purpose, such as when Trump does it to mock it, then it's ok.

https://youtu.be/hR3Vw9Cwn-k?si=-DdAKf6ucHe0eQ7o






Next, I did not get "sensitive" when you insulted Russians as a group, I only called you out on your hypocrisy.

You think Russians are to be insulted, but blacks should be worshipped?

I wonder how does that work for you, doing that but still taking moral high ground as you do it?

It's amazing, really.

I know you live under Jewish US system that taught you all that and imprinted such behaviour and thinking patterns in your brain, you've clearly dehumanised Russians to the max, and I not care, but if you think about it more clearly, decency aside, whom
should you fear more, Al Sharpton or Putin?

Think about it, if anything, it's the other way around whom should you fear insulting actually, remember Russians have nukes, blacks don't.

That's the true N-word as Trump points out.


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On 6.9.2023 11.19, *skriptis wrote:

PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

Somehow you said you are entitled to use the N word and that your faith, religion and taboos are okay with your act then you get sensitive when your act is said to be typical for your people.Explain...Also you are Christian, correct? How is it that

your religion is fine with your behavior?Another explanation is needed...

Anyone using the term "N-word" unironically in an anonymous online forum, as anything other than a joke, is worthy of pity.

You're a laughing stock. Who are you afraid of? Pathetic.

If you use it for humourous purpose, such as when Trump does it to mock it, then it's ok.

https://youtu.be/hR3Vw9Cwn-k?si=-DdAKf6ucHe0eQ7o

Next, I did not get "sensitive" when you insulted Russians as a group, I only called you out on your hypocrisy.

You think Russians are to be insulted, but blacks should be worshipped?

I wonder how does that work for you, doing that but still taking moral high ground as you do it?

It's amazing, really.

I know you live under Jewish US system that taught you all that and imprinted such behaviour and thinking patterns in your brain, you've clearly dehumanised Russians to the max, and I not care, but if you think about it more clearly, decency aside,

whom should you fear more, Al Sharpton or Putin?

Think about it, if anything, it's the other way around whom should you fear insulting actually, remember Russians have nukes, blacks don't.

That's the true N-word as Trump points out.

You're not feeling well. I suggest you go and fix what is broken.

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*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r

PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:> Somehow you said you are entitled to use the N word and that your faith, religion and taboos are okay with your act then you get sensitive when your act is said to be typical for your people.

Explain...Also you are Christian, correct? How is it that your religion is fine with your behavior?Another explanation is needed...Anyone using the term "N-word" unironically in an anonymous online forum, as anything other than a joke, is worthy of pity.
You're a laughing stock. Who are you afraid of? Pathetic.If you use it for humourous purpose, such as when Trump does it to mock it, then it's ok.https://youtu.be/hR3Vw9Cwn-k?si=-DdAKf6ucHe0eQ7oNext, I did not get "sensitive" when you insulted Russians
as a group, I only called you out on your hypocrisy. You think Russians are to be insulted, but blacks should be worshipped?I wonder how does that work for you, doing that but still taking moral high ground as you do it? It's amazing, really.I know you
live under Jewish US system that taught you all that and imprinted such behaviour and thinking patterns in your brain, you've clearly dehumanised Russians to the max, and I not care, but if you think about it more clearly, decency aside, whom should you
fear more, Al Sharpton or Putin?Think about it, if anything, it's the other way around whom should you fear insulting actually, remember Russians have nukes, blacks don't.That's the true N-word as Trump points out.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https:
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You didn't answer my question about your behavior being Christian.

Also, I didn't insult Russians, I linked your behavior to Russians. I guess you must be ashamed of your behavior that was linked to Russians and saw your behavior as insult to them.
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PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

You didn't answer my question about your behavior being Christian.Also, I didn't insult Russians, I linked your behavior to Russians. I guess you must be ashamed of your behavior that was linked to Russians and saw your behavior as insult to them.

Now this is getting boring. You think we're all dumb and you so smart?




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*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r

PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:> You didn't answer my question about your behavior being Christian.Also, I didn't insult Russians, I linked your behavior to Russians. I guess you must be ashamed of your behavior that was linked

to Russians and saw your behavior as insult to them.Now this is getting boring. You think we're all dumb and you so smart?-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html

Why are you switching the discussion, stay on topic.

You said you aren't bound by the same culture, taboos, religions, etc, but you keep talking about Christianity and Jesus as your spiritual driver in life.

So how does all of this align together?

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On Tuesday, 5 September 2023 at 18:32:02 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:

Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On 9/5/23 9:44 AM, *skriptis wrote:> I'm watching these two females and Ostapenkova took bathroom break after being bageled in set 1.>> Mary then proceeds commentating "oh what a spectacle awaits is tonight, imagine, two African Americans playing

night session tonight, on Arthur Ashe stadium konless, imagine...and then continues with some weird sounds coming from her stomach it could be orgasm or something like that" and I'm like wtf.>>> Why should we care about two niggers playing in slam QF,
what kind of world is this?>> If it's a non race world, then if shouldn't matter, no?>> If it's a race world, then how come she expects everyone would be for niggers? Niggers might be for that, but others won't be.>>>>> It's beyond pathetic. She should
retire from public life in shame and live in a cave for the rest of her life.>>>I can't speak to the accuracy of this, skript, but it does raise something that has interested me for a long time: the "one drop" perception common in places like the US.It's
where one drop of African blood makes the individual by definition black. This is from the POV of whites.So I suspect that she's talking about Tiafoe playing Shelton, and the latter is only nominally black, to my perception.Now, I care less about whether
this is fair or not (who cares?) but *why* one drop of white blood does not make a black African *white* from the POV of blacks....or does it?Is it less a genetic judgement than a behavioral one. E.g., Madison Keyes acts about as white as anyone I've
seen, so might she be considered a darker skinned "white" person, like Alcaraz is?Further along this line of thought is Caucasian/Asian mixed race, or Caucasian/Am-Indian. So if one were to evaluate--AHEM!--acceptability from the Caucasian POV, the order
might be Caucasian admixtures with the following phenotypes: East Asian, Am-Indian, African. And this seems to have a lot to do with perceived stereotypical behavior associated with each group.It's complex and interesting, and especially so if we
entertain the observation that in many locales, blacks, themselves, seem to give greater status to light-skin than to darker skin. One might ascribe this to the influence of white colonial authority, but is this strictly true? Do cultures of color place
a higher value on fairness than otherwise? I believe that east Asians may also esteem lighter skin color. This is not to say that they esteem non-Asian physical features, but simply that fairer is better, at least for females.If this is pervasive and
independently true, what is that all about, anyway?It's very mysterious to me.-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Man! I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!" --Sawfish

You've raised an interesting issue, sure we can discuss it, but you've also missed the point I've raised I feel.

I'm just wondering why do fuck a white female TV commentator would be ecstatic about two blacks playing in a stadium named after a tier IV tennis great who happens to be black?

What's in it for her?

Yet she's ecstatic and behaves as if it's a spectacle for all other people, something to celebrate?

Why should whites or yellows celebrate black tennis success?

It's utterly bizarre.

Sick.

cos she's a white liberal who is clueless about history and African culture/history, so she's totally convinced that all blacks in the USA have been oppressed terribly(despite Arthur Ashe, Mali Washington + Eddie Murphy, Muhammed Ali, Beyonce, Michael
Jordan etc) so it's some kind total miracle that 2 blacks are somehow in the USO QF. White liberals are obsessed with "helping" those they feel are "victims", no matter what the case, look at Pelle he still tries to defend Amber Herd against Captain Jack
Sparrow.

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*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:> You didn't answer my question about your behavior being Christian.Also, I didn't insult Russians, I linked your behavior to Russians. I

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amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlWhy are you switching the discussion, stay on topic.You said you aren't bound by the same culture, taboos, religions, etc, but you keep talking about Christianity and Jesus as your spiritual driver in life.So how does all
of this align together?


You are not Christian anyway so why do you ask you don't understand it




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On 6.9.2023 18.53, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/6/23 12:59 AM, *skriptis wrote:

Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On 9/5/23 9:44 AM, *skriptis wrote:> I'm watching these two females
and Ostapenkova took bathroom break after being bageled in set 1.>>
Mary then proceeds commentating "oh what a spectacle awaits is
tonight, imagine, two African Americans playing night session
tonight, on Arthur Ashe stadium konless, imagine...and then continues
with some weird sounds coming from her stomach it could be orgasm or
something like that" and I'm like wtf.>>> Why should we care about
two niggers playing in slam QF, what kind of world is this?>> If it's
a non race world, then if shouldn't matter, no?>> If it's a race
world, then how come she expects everyone would be for niggers?
Niggers might be for that, but others won't be.>>>>> It's beyond
pathetic. She should retire from public life in shame and live in a
cave for the rest of her life.>>>I can't speak to the accuracy of
this, skript, but it does raise something that has interested me for
a long time: the "one drop" perception common in places like the
US.It's where one drop of African blood makes the individual by
definition black. This is from the POV of whites.So I suspect that
she's talking about Tiafoe playing Shelton, and the latter is only
nominally black, to my perception.Now, I care less about whether this
is fair or not (who cares?) but *why* one drop of white blood does
not make a black African *white* from the POV of blacks....or does
it?Is it less a genetic judgement than a behavioral one. E.g.,
Madison Keyes acts about as white as anyone I've seen, so might she
be considered a darker skinned "white" person, like Alcaraz
is?Further along this line of thought is Caucasian/Asian mixed race,
or Caucasian/Am-Indian. So if one were to
evaluate--AHEM!--acceptability from the Caucasian POV, the order
might be Caucasian admixtures with the following phenotypes: East
Asian, Am-Indian, African. And this seems to have     a lot to do
with perceived stereotypical behavior associated with each group.It's
complex and interesting, and especially so if we entertain the
observation that in many locales, blacks, themselves, seem to give
greater status to light-skin than to darker skin. One might ascribe
this to the influence of white colonial authority, but is this
strictly true? Do cultures of color place a higher value on fairness
than otherwise? I believe that east Asians may also esteem lighter
skin color. This is not to say that they esteem non-Asian physical
features, but simply that fairer is better, at least for females.If
this is pervasive and independently true, what is that all about,
anyway?It's very mysterious to me.--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Man! I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!"                                          --Sawfish

Now to address this issue, yes of course everyone prefers fairer skin.
I guess it's in all cultures?

Women are fairer and everyone is after women and so on, it's
evolutionary.

It can be exotic (fetish) to an extent if a girl is of darker skin so
mildly attractive, just as someone would fetishize about tall women,
but a lighter skin is generally feminine trait and a darker skin is
generally more masculine trait, accross all cultures, same as height
(tall men, shorter for women).

It's not a rocket science.

Which then would explain kinda hysterical one drop rule among American
whites? The black admixture is a penetration of a other masculine force?

I see it along the lines of evolution within a physical environment.
This will require some explanation, but I'll be as brief as I can.

Let's wind back to paleolithic days...

Ok ...

But if culturally there is value in less melanin

... lol. sawfish just took the kulturkampf to "paleolithic days".

:)

--
"And off they went, from here to there,
The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
-- Traditional

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On 6.9.2023 19.16, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/6/23 9:02 AM, The Iceberg wrote:

On Tuesday, 5 September 2023 at 18:32:02 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:

Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On 9/5/23 9:44 AM, *skriptis wrote:> I'm watching these two females
and Ostapenkova took bathroom break after being bageled in set 1.>>
Mary then proceeds commentating "oh what a spectacle awaits is
tonight, imagine, two African Americans playing night session
tonight, on Arthur Ashe stadium konless, imagine...and then
continues with some weird sounds coming from her stomach it could be
orgasm or something like that" and I'm like wtf.>>> Why should we
care about two niggers playing in slam QF, what kind of world is
this?>> If it's a non race world, then if shouldn't matter, no?>> If
it's a race world, then how come she expects everyone would be for
niggers? Niggers might be for that, but others won't be.>>>>> It's
beyond pathetic. She should retire from public life in shame and
live in a cave for the rest of her life.>>>I can't speak to the
accuracy of this, skript, but it does raise something that has
interested me for a long time: the "one drop" perception common in
places like the US.It's where one drop of African blood makes the
individual by definition black. This is from the POV of whites.So I
suspect that she's talking about Tiafoe playing Shelton, and the
latter is only nominally black, to my perception.Now, I care less
about whether this is fair or not (who cares?) but *why* one drop of
white blood does not make a black African *white* from the POV of
blacks....or does it?Is it less a genetic judgement than a
behavioral one. E.g., Madison Keyes acts about as white as anyone
I've seen, so might she be considered a darker skinned "white"
person, like Alcaraz is?Further along this line of thought is
Caucasian/Asian mixed race, or Caucasian/Am-Indian. So if one were
to evaluate--AHEM!--acceptability from the Caucasian POV, the order
might be Caucasian admixtures with the following phenotypes: East
Asian, Am-Indian, African. And this seems to have a lot to do with
perceived stereotypical behavior associated with each group.It's
complex and interesting, and especially so if we entertain the
observation that in many locales, blacks, themselves, seem to give
greater status to light-skin than to darker skin. One might ascribe
this to the influence of white colonial authority, but is this
strictly true? Do cultures of color place a higher value on fairness
than otherwise? I believe that east Asians may also esteem lighter
skin color. This is not to say that they esteem non-Asian physical
features, but simply that fairer is better, at least for females.If
this is pervasive and independently true, what is that all about,
anyway?It's very mysterious to me.--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Man! I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!" --Sawfish

You've raised an interesting issue, sure we can discuss it, but
you've also missed the point I've raised I feel.

I'm just wondering why do fuck a white female TV commentator would be
ecstatic about two blacks playing in a stadium named after a tier IV
tennis great who happens to be black?

What's in it for her?

Yet she's ecstatic and behaves as if it's a spectacle for all other
people, something to celebrate?

Why should whites or yellows celebrate black tennis success?

It's utterly bizarre.


Sick.

cos she's a white liberal who is clueless about history and African
culture/history, so she's totally convinced that all blacks in the USA
have been oppressed terribly(despite Arthur Ashe, Mali Washington +
Eddie Murphy, Muhammed Ali, Beyonce, Michael Jordan etc) so it's some
kind total miracle that 2 blacks are somehow in the USO QF. White
liberals are obsessed with "helping" those they feel are "victims", no
matter what the case, look at Pelle he still tries to defend Amber
Herd against Captain Jack Sparrow.

"White liberals are obsessed with "helping" those they feel are
"victims..."

Let's work from the assumption that this is accurate (I think it is) and explore it just a bit.

Right on the surface of it, one group who can consistently help another
group is in a superior position that group.

Essentially, white liberals are in the position of showing the
underclass just how superior to them they are. "You can't do it without
*my* help." Really rubbing their noses in it.

Over, and over, and over...

Nice.

Dumb post.

--
"And off they went, from here to there,
The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
-- Traditional

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*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> wrote:

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PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:> You didn't answer my question about your behavior being Christian.Also, I didn't insult Russians, I linked your behavior to Russians. I

guess you must be ashamed of your behavior that was linked to Russians and saw your behavior as insult to them.Now this is getting boring. You think we're all dumb and you so smart?-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.
amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlWhy are you switching the discussion, stay on topic.You said you aren't bound by the same culture, taboos, religions, etc, but you keep talking about Christianity and Jesus as your spiritual driver in life.So how does all
of this align together?

You are not Christian anyway so why do you ask you
don't understand it

I am not a Christian either, but I understand
Christianity very well. It is such a disgusting
religion.

Jesus was a huge racist himself. He said that
in the end all people will be divided into two
groups: sheep and goats. Or something like that.

If you are a sheep, you will go to "heaven" and
live in eternal bliss with your hero Jesus. On
the other hand, if you happen to be a goat, you
will also live for eternity, but this time in
"hell" where you will be tortured in all kinds
of nasty ways.

Not even the fucking Nazis tortured Jews
for eternity, but Jesus surely will. Amen!

br,
KK

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*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r

PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r> *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:> You didn't answer my question about your behavior being Christian.Also, I didn't

insult Russians, I linked your behavior to Russians. I guess you must be ashamed of your behavior that was linked to Russians and saw your behavior as insult to them.Now this is getting boring. You think we're all dumb and you so smart?-- ----Android
NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlWhy are you switching the discussion, stay on topic.You said you aren't bound by the same culture, taboos, religions, etc, but you keep talking about Christianity and Jesus
as your spiritual driver in life.So how does all of this align together?You are not Christian anyway so why do you ask you don't understand it-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html

How do you know I am not Christian? Is this because I asked you to explain how your actions agree with the principals of Christianity?
Or is it because Jesus is white and beautiful?

You can simply say you don't give a **** about religions.





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On Wednesday, 6 September 2023 at 19:35:13 UTC+1, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:

*skriptis <skri...@post.t-com.hr> wrote:

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PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

*skriptis <skri...@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:> You didn't answer my question about your behavior being Christian.Also, I didn't insult Russians, I linked your behavior to Russians. I guess

you must be ashamed of your behavior that was linked to Russians and saw your behavior as insult to them.Now this is getting boring. You think we're all dumb and you so smart?-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/
usenet/index.htmlWhy are you switching the discussion, stay on topic.You said you aren't bound by the same culture, taboos, religions, etc, but you keep talking about Christianity and Jesus as your spiritual driver in life.So how does all of this align
together?

You are not Christian anyway so why do you ask you
don't understand it

I am not a Christian either, but I understand
Christianity very well. It is such a disgusting
religion.

no and definitely not as disgusting as your woke religion.

Jesus was a huge racist himself. He said that
in the end all people will be divided into two
groups: sheep and goats. Or something like that.

you need to read the Bible.

If you are a sheep, you will go to "heaven" and
live in eternal bliss with your hero Jesus. On
the other hand, if you happen to be a goat, you
will also live for eternity, but this time in
"hell" where you will be tortured in all kinds
of nasty ways.

well you got this kind of right, he said if you don't listen to him then that is what will happen, he was warning you, you know like CNN warm you about the "climate emergency", but why are you complaining about being told to do something? Weirdly you are
more than happy to sheepishly follow everything the Marxists and MSM tell/order you, "Democrats are better than Repubs" + you happily took 10 untested boosters, you wore your mask 24/7, you agree that men who have sex fetishes for wearing dresses are
literally women, you reckon men should be allowed to wreck women's sports etc.

Not even the fucking Nazis tortured Jews

are those the Ukraine "nice" Nazis?

for eternity, but Jesus surely will. Amen!

Jesus was very kind and has given you a choice. Now let me guess you won't comment on Hindus or Islamics LOLski

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On Wednesday, 6 September 2023 at 19:07:42 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:

On 6.9.2023 19.16, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/6/23 9:02 AM, The Iceberg wrote:

On Tuesday, 5 September 2023 at 18:32:02 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:

Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On 9/5/23 9:44 AM, *skriptis wrote:> I'm watching these two females >>>> and Ostapenkova took bathroom break after being bageled in set 1.>> >>>> Mary then proceeds commentating "oh what a spectacle awaits is
tonight, imagine, two African Americans playing night session
tonight, on Arthur Ashe stadium konless, imagine...and then
continues with some weird sounds coming from her stomach it could be >>>> orgasm or something like that" and I'm like wtf.>>> Why should we
care about two niggers playing in slam QF, what kind of world is
this?>> If it's a non race world, then if shouldn't matter, no?>> If >>>> it's a race world, then how come she expects everyone would be for
niggers? Niggers might be for that, but others won't be.>>>>> It's
beyond pathetic. She should retire from public life in shame and
live in a cave for the rest of her life.>>>I can't speak to the
accuracy of this, skript, but it does raise something that has
interested me for a long time: the "one drop" perception common in
places like the US.It's where one drop of African blood makes the
individual by definition black. This is from the POV of whites.So I >>>> suspect that she's talking about Tiafoe playing Shelton, and the
latter is only nominally black, to my perception.Now, I care less
about whether this is fair or not (who cares?) but *why* one drop of >>>> white blood does not make a black African *white* from the POV of
blacks....or does it?Is it less a genetic judgement than a
behavioral one. E.g., Madison Keyes acts about as white as anyone
I've seen, so might she be considered a darker skinned "white"
person, like Alcaraz is?Further along this line of thought is
Caucasian/Asian mixed race, or Caucasian/Am-Indian. So if one were
to evaluate--AHEM!--acceptability from the Caucasian POV, the order >>>> might be Caucasian admixtures with the following phenotypes: East
Asian, Am-Indian, African. And this seems to have a lot to do with
perceived stereotypical behavior associated with each group.It's
complex and interesting, and especially so if we entertain the
observation that in many locales, blacks, themselves, seem to give
greater status to light-skin than to darker skin. One might ascribe >>>> this to the influence of white colonial authority, but is this
strictly true? Do cultures of color place a higher value on fairness >>>> than otherwise? I believe that east Asians may also esteem lighter
skin color. This is not to say that they esteem non-Asian physical
features, but simply that fairer is better, at least for females.If >>>> this is pervasive and independently true, what is that all about,
anyway?It's very mysterious to me.--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Man! I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!" --Sawfish

You've raised an interesting issue, sure we can discuss it, but
you've also missed the point I've raised I feel.

I'm just wondering why do fuck a white female TV commentator would be >>> ecstatic about two blacks playing in a stadium named after a tier IV
tennis great who happens to be black?

What's in it for her?

Yet she's ecstatic and behaves as if it's a spectacle for all other
people, something to celebrate?

Why should whites or yellows celebrate black tennis success?

It's utterly bizarre.


Sick.

cos she's a white liberal who is clueless about history and African
culture/history, so she's totally convinced that all blacks in the USA
have been oppressed terribly(despite Arthur Ashe, Mali Washington +
Eddie Murphy, Muhammed Ali, Beyonce, Michael Jordan etc) so it's some
kind total miracle that 2 blacks are somehow in the USO QF. White
liberals are obsessed with "helping" those they feel are "victims", no
matter what the case, look at Pelle he still tries to defend Amber
Herd against Captain Jack Sparrow.

"White liberals are obsessed with "helping" those they feel are "victims..."

Let's work from the assumption that this is accurate (I think it is) and explore it just a bit.

Right on the surface of it, one group who can consistently help another group is in a superior position that group.

Essentially, white liberals are in the position of showing the
underclass just how superior to them they are. "You can't do it without *my* help." Really rubbing their noses in it.

Over, and over, and over...

Nice.

Dumb post.

yeah cos nobody on RST would ever think you put yourself as superior to absolutely everyone else especially the "victims" you claim to "help" yeah good old "humble Pelle" AHAH AHAHHHAHAHAHAHH

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On Wednesday, 6 September 2023 at 18:40:33 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:

PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

*skriptis <skri...@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:> You didn't answer my question about your behavior being Christian.Also, I didn't insult Russians, I linked your behavior to Russians. I guess

you must be ashamed of your behavior that was linked to Russians and saw your behavior as insult to them.Now this is getting boring. You think we're all dumb and you so smart?-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/
usenet/index.htmlWhy are you switching the discussion, stay on topic.You said you aren't bound by the same culture, taboos, religions, etc, but you keep talking about Christianity and Jesus as your spiritual driver in life.So how does all of this align
together?

You are not Christian anyway so why do you ask you don't understand it

might be able to mediate here. I agree with PWL that saying "n*****" is rude cos generally it's a degrading slang term and there no need to use it in civilized polite conversation. I do not call black friends "n*****" etc. when chatting them and I don't
call white friends it either, likewise I don't expect anyone to call me ghostface or whatever. It's just not "nice".

Now skrip, the difference is also that Yes the culture here is that we are scared to use the word for fear of legal retribution by our hypocritical anti-white race laws, which always side and excuse the minority rather than the majority eg. it's always
the assumption that the white guy is the racist and non-whites cannot be racist, Ghostface Killah was totally fine on MTV etc. Now, PWL try to understand that this is not the case in East Europe! or elsewhere(Asia, Middle East etc) where the laws back
the majority not the minority, so they have no worries calling over-entitled or spoilt or victim-playing black/foreign folks names or words to bring them down a level. It's like calling a someone "crazy" in an argument. It's the same in Africa, India or
Middle East where they have equivalent words but for white folks eg. if a white guy were acting over-entitled/spoilt/victim in India he would immediately be called Gorah(the n-word for whites in Asia), same in the Middle-East(they have another word), cos
that brings him down a level, understand? as Jews got mentioned it may be that cos of their huge influence on the West that's why are laws are skewed towards the minority, but haven't checked that yet.

Should add that find it quite pathetic/sad that blacks use the "N" word amongst themselves so freely as reckon it just degrades them and doesn't help them at all. So disagree with the "N" word being used in regular conversation and disagree with blacks
using it too, but can understand why it gets used in East Europe and elsewhere in the world.

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On 7.9.2023 10.44, The Iceberg wrote:

On Wednesday, 6 September 2023 at 19:07:42 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:

On 6.9.2023 19.16, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/6/23 9:02 AM, The Iceberg wrote:

On Tuesday, 5 September 2023 at 18:32:02 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:

Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On 9/5/23 9:44 AM, *skriptis wrote:> I'm watching these two females >>>>>> and Ostapenkova took bathroom break after being bageled in set 1.>> >>>>>> Mary then proceeds commentating "oh what a spectacle awaits is
tonight, imagine, two African Americans playing night session
tonight, on Arthur Ashe stadium konless, imagine...and then
continues with some weird sounds coming from her stomach it could be >>>>>> orgasm or something like that" and I'm like wtf.>>> Why should we
care about two niggers playing in slam QF, what kind of world is
this?>> If it's a non race world, then if shouldn't matter, no?>> If >>>>>> it's a race world, then how come she expects everyone would be for >>>>>> niggers? Niggers might be for that, but others won't be.>>>>> It's >>>>>> beyond pathetic. She should retire from public life in shame and
live in a cave for the rest of her life.>>>I can't speak to the
accuracy of this, skript, but it does raise something that has
interested me for a long time: the "one drop" perception common in >>>>>> places like the US.It's where one drop of African blood makes the
individual by definition black. This is from the POV of whites.So I >>>>>> suspect that she's talking about Tiafoe playing Shelton, and the
latter is only nominally black, to my perception.Now, I care less
about whether this is fair or not (who cares?) but *why* one drop of >>>>>> white blood does not make a black African *white* from the POV of
blacks....or does it?Is it less a genetic judgement than a
behavioral one. E.g., Madison Keyes acts about as white as anyone
I've seen, so might she be considered a darker skinned "white"
person, like Alcaraz is?Further along this line of thought is
Caucasian/Asian mixed race, or Caucasian/Am-Indian. So if one were >>>>>> to evaluate--AHEM!--acceptability from the Caucasian POV, the order >>>>>> might be Caucasian admixtures with the following phenotypes: East
Asian, Am-Indian, African. And this seems to have a lot to do with >>>>>> perceived stereotypical behavior associated with each group.It's
complex and interesting, and especially so if we entertain the
observation that in many locales, blacks, themselves, seem to give >>>>>> greater status to light-skin than to darker skin. One might ascribe >>>>>> this to the influence of white colonial authority, but is this
strictly true? Do cultures of color place a higher value on fairness >>>>>> than otherwise? I believe that east Asians may also esteem lighter >>>>>> skin color. This is not to say that they esteem non-Asian physical >>>>>> features, but simply that fairer is better, at least for females.If >>>>>> this is pervasive and independently true, what is that all about,
anyway?It's very mysterious to me.--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Man! I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!" --Sawfish

You've raised an interesting issue, sure we can discuss it, but
you've also missed the point I've raised I feel.

I'm just wondering why do fuck a white female TV commentator would be >>>>> ecstatic about two blacks playing in a stadium named after a tier IV >>>>> tennis great who happens to be black?

What's in it for her?

Yet she's ecstatic and behaves as if it's a spectacle for all other
people, something to celebrate?

Why should whites or yellows celebrate black tennis success?

It's utterly bizarre.


Sick.

cos she's a white liberal who is clueless about history and African
culture/history, so she's totally convinced that all blacks in the USA >>>> have been oppressed terribly(despite Arthur Ashe, Mali Washington +
Eddie Murphy, Muhammed Ali, Beyonce, Michael Jordan etc) so it's some
kind total miracle that 2 blacks are somehow in the USO QF. White
liberals are obsessed with "helping" those they feel are "victims", no >>>> matter what the case, look at Pelle he still tries to defend Amber
Herd against Captain Jack Sparrow.

"White liberals are obsessed with "helping" those they feel are
"victims..."

Let's work from the assumption that this is accurate (I think it is) and >>> explore it just a bit.

Right on the surface of it, one group who can consistently help another
group is in a superior position that group.

Essentially, white liberals are in the position of showing the
underclass just how superior to them they are. "You can't do it without
*my* help." Really rubbing their noses in it.

Over, and over, and over...

Nice.

Dumb post.

yeah cos nobody on RST would ever think you put yourself as superior to absolutely everyone else especially the "victims" you claim to "help" yeah good old "humble Pelle" AHAH AHAHHHAHAHAHAHH

Chumps are chumps.

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The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On Wednesday, 6 September 2023 at 18:40:33 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r > > *skriptis <skri...@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:> You didn't answer

my question about your behavior being Christian.Also, I didn't insult Russians, I linked your behavior to Russians. I guess you must be ashamed of your behavior that was linked to Russians and saw your behavior as insult to them.Now this is getting
boring. You think we're all dumb and you so smart?-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlWhy are you switching the discussion, stay on topic.You said you aren't bound by the same culture, taboos,
religions, etc, but you keep talking about Christianity and Jesus as your spiritual driver in life.So how does all of this align together? > > > You are not Christian anyway so why do you ask you don't understand itmight be able to mediate here. I agree
with PWL that saying "n*****" is rude cos generally it's a degrading slang term and there no need to use it in civilized polite conversation. I do not call black friends "n*****" etc. when chatting them and I don't call white friends it either, likewise
I don't expect anyone to call me ghostface or whatever. It's just not "nice".Now skrip, the difference is also that Yes the culture here is that we are scared to use the word for fear of legal retribution by our hypocritical anti-white race laws, which
always side and excuse the minority rather than the majority eg. it's always the assumption that the white guy is the racist and non-whites cannot be racist, Ghostface Killah was totally fine on MTV etc. Now, PWL try to understand that this is not the
case in East Europe! or elsewhere(Asia, Middle East etc) where the laws back the majority not the minority, so they have no worries calling over-entitled or spoilt or victim-playing black/foreign folks names or words to bring them down a level. It's like
calling a someone "crazy" in an argument. It's the same in Africa, India or Middle East where they have equivalent words but for white folks eg. if a white guy were acting over-entitled/spoilt/victim in India he would immediately be called Gorah(the n-
word for whites in Asia), same in the Middle-East(they have another word), cos that brings him down a level, understand? as Jews got mentioned it may be that cos of their huge influence on the West that's why are laws are skewed towards the minority, but
haven't checked that yet.Should add that find it quite pathetic/sad that blacks use the "N" word amongst themselves so freely as reckon it just degrades them and doesn't help them at all. So disagree with the "N" word being used in regular conversation
and disagree with blacks using it too, but can understand why it gets used in East Europe and elsewhere in the world.



Good insight, this kind of discussion and approach is what keeps rst alive.


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Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On 9/7/23 1:03 AM, The Iceberg wrote:> On Wednesday, 6 September 2023 at 18:40:33 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:>> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>> *skriptis <skri...@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com>

Wrote in message:> You didn't answer my question about your behavior being Christian.Also, I didn't insult Russians, I linked your behavior to Russians. I guess you must be ashamed of your behavior that was linked to Russians and saw your behavior as
insult to them.Now this is getting boring. You think we're all dumb and you so smart?-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlWhy are you switching the discussion, stay on topic.You said you aren't
bound by the same culture, taboos, religions, etc, but you keep talking about Christianity and Jesus as your spiritual driver in life.So how does all of this align together?>>>> You are not Christian anyway so why do you ask you don't understand it>
might be able to mediate here. I agree with PWL that saying "n*****" is rude cos generally it's a degrading slang term and there no need to use it in civilized polite conversation. I do not call black friends "n*****" etc. when chatting them and I don't
call white friends it either, likewise I don't expect anyone to call me ghostface or whatever. It's just not "nice".It is flirting with open warfare.>> Now skrip, the difference is also that Yes the culture here is that we are scared to use the word for
fear of legal retribution by our hypocritical anti-white race laws, which always side and excuse the minority rather than the majority eg. it's always the assumption that the white guy is the racist and non-whites cannot be racist, Ghostface Killah was
totally fine on MTV etc. Now, PWL try to understand that this is not the case in East Europe! or elsewhere(Asia, Middle East etc) where the laws back the majority not the minority, so they have no worries calling over-entitled or spoilt or victim-playing
black/foreign folks names or words to bring them down a level. It's like calling a someone "crazy" in an argument. It's the same in Africa, India or Middle East where they have equivalent words but for white folks eg. if a white guy were acting over-
entitled/spoilt/victim in India he would immediately be called Gorah(the n-word for whites in Asia), same in the Middle-East(they have another word), cos that brings him down a level, understand? as Jews got mentioned it may be that cos of their huge
influence on the West that's why are laws are skewed towards the minority, but haven't checked that yet.Interesting point.Starting with the assumption that this is correct, just for the sake of argumentative exploration, what would that imply?>> Should
add that find it quite pathetic/sad that blacks use the "N" word amongst themselves so freely as reckon it just degrades them and doesn't help them at all.That's an easy one: *I* get to say it, but you don't.This works at two levels: societal and
interpersonal.Let's work in reverse order.Interpersonally, between two individuals, or small groups, using n***** is very likely to result in physical harm. For the most part, black people can make this stick at the interpersonal level if the "sides" are
essentially equal in numerical strength. Most white people are afraid of black people--and in fact a part of one of Chris Rock's routines is that *he's* afraid of black people.But one step beyond that is to have so thoroughly hornswoggled the society in
general that while there may be legal restrictions against the use of this word, or others similar, the worst social response is tacit acceptance, and there's a fair chance of open sycophantic agreement.So what we've got now in the US is so great a suck-
up esteem for black culture that now *everyone* is a Blood or a Crip, and capping your enemies ass (figuratively or literally) over a minor disagreement is de regueur.> So disagree with the "N" word being used in regular conversation and disagree with
blacks using it too, but can understand why it gets used in East Europe and elsewhere in the world.It's a different cultural mindset. Neither good nor bad, but different, and apparently the way they like it.For back people I like and respect--and there
certainly are some--I'd NEVER use this word, out of personal respect.-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"It was public knowledge that Sawfish was a loner with strong misanthropic tendencies: it was rare for him
to even say a word to his dog."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



But it's not merely a nigger?
Apparently there's a jigaboo too.


https://youtu.be/tqyfM6xcXnI?si=DTBR6J7Iyjd_9S75


So as matter of fact we see that there's a compiled list of words, I'm sure there are more words, so it's all clear, the purpose of this social experiment done by Jews is to get you and keep you in submission.



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On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 10:04:36 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/7/23 9:53 AM, *skriptis wrote:

Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On 9/7/23 1:03 AM, The Iceberg wrote:> On Wednesday, 6 September 2023 at 18:40:33 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:>> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>> *skriptis <skri...@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.

Wrote in message:> You didn't answer my question about your behavior being Christian.Also, I didn't insult Russians, I linked your behavior to Russians. I guess you must be ashamed of your behavior that was linked to Russians and saw your behavior

as insult to them.Now this is getting boring. You think we're all dumb and you so smart?-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlWhy are you switching the discussion, stay on topic.You said you aren'
t bound by the same culture, taboos, religions, etc, but you keep talking about Christianity and Jesus as your spiritual driver in life.So how does all of this align together?>>>> You are not Christian anyway so why do you ask you don't understand it>
might be able to mediate here. I agree with PWL that saying "n*****" is rude cos generally it's a degrading slang term and there no need to use it in civilized polite conversation. I do not call black friends "n*****" etc. when chatting them and I don't
call white friends it either, likewise I don't expect anyone to call me ghostface or whatever. It's just not "nice".It is flirting with open warfare.>> Now skrip, the difference is also that Yes the culture here is that we are scared to use the word for
fear of legal retribution by our hypocritical anti-white race laws, which always side and excuse the minority rather than the majority eg. it's always the assumption that the white guy is the racist and non-whites cannot be racist, Ghostface Killah was
totally fine on MTV etc. Now, PWL try to understand that this is not the case in East Europe! or elsewhere(Asia, Middle East etc) where the laws back the majority not the minority, so they have no worries calling over-entitled or spoilt or victim-playing
black/foreign folks names or words to bring them down a level. It's like calling a someone "crazy" in an argument. It's the same in Africa, India or Middle East where they have equivalent words but for white folks eg. if a white guy were acting over-
entitled/spoilt/victim in India he would immediately be called Gorah(the n-word for whites in Asia), same in the Middle-East(they have another word), cos that brings him down a level, understand? as Jews got mentioned it may be that cos of their huge
influence on the West that's why are laws are skewed towards the minority, but haven't checked that yet.Interesting point.Starting with the assumption that this is correct, just for the sake of argumentative exploration, what would that imply?>> Should
add that find it quite pathetic/sad that blacks use the "N" word amongst themselves so freely as reckon it just degrades them and doesn't help them at all.That's an easy one: *I* get to say it, but you don't.This works at two levels: societal and
interpersonal.Let's work in reverse order.Interpersonally, between two individuals, or small groups, using n***** is very likely to result in physical harm. For the most part, black people can make this stick at the interpersonal level if the "sides" are
essentially equal in numerical strength. Most white people are afraid of black people--and in fact a part of one of Chris Rock's routines is that *he's* afraid of black people.But one step beyond that is to have so thoroughly hornswoggled the society in
general that while there may be legal restrictions against the use of this word, or others similar, the worst social response is tacit acceptance, and there's a fair chance of open sycophantic agreement.So what we've got now in the US is so great a suck-
up esteem for black culture that now *everyone* is a Blood or a Crip, and capping your enemies ass (figuratively or literally) over a minor disagreement is de regueur.> So disagree with the "N" word being used in regular conversation and disagree with
blacks using it too, but can understand why it gets used in East Europe and elsewhere in the world.It's a different cultural mindset. Neither good nor bad, but different, and apparently the way they like it.For back people I like and respect--and there
certainly are some--I'd NEVER use this word, out of personal respect.-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"It was public knowledge that Sawfish was a loner with strong misanthropic tendencies: it was rare for him
to even say a word to his dog."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

But it's not merely a nigger?
Apparently there's a jigaboo too.

Oh, the list is infinitely expandable! That's the point!

Have you ever asked someone who is an outspoken advocate of "human
rights" to give you, once and for all, a complete list of all human
rights?

It's about decency.

The times I've done it online, I've never gotten an answer to
this, only clumsy dodges. It's because they want to be able to indulge
any future whims by adding them to the list.

Sure. But do you object to the concept of fundamental rights?

It's very simple: rights are what the remainder of society let you do consistently without interference. It changes all the time based on
culture and/or circumstance.

That's about it.

...and to borrow from that great social observer, Mr. T: "I pity the po' foo' who don't know that...".

I love it when a plan comes together.

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On Thursday, 7 September 2023 at 19:34:54 UTC+1, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/7/23 11:08 AM, bmoore wrote:

On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 10:04:36 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/7/23 9:53 AM, *skriptis wrote:

Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On 9/7/23 1:03 AM, The Iceberg wrote:> On Wednesday, 6 September 2023 at 18:40:33 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:>> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>> *skriptis <skri...@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@

gmail.com> Wrote in message:> You didn't answer my question about your behavior being Christian.Also, I didn't insult Russians, I linked your behavior to Russians. I guess you must be ashamed of your behavior that was linked to Russians and saw your
behavior as insult to them.Now this is getting boring. You think we're all dumb and you so smart?-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlWhy are you switching the discussion, stay on topic.You said
you aren't bound by the same culture, taboos, religions, etc, but you keep talking about Christianity and Jesus as your spiritual driver in life.So how does all of this align together?>>>> You are not Christian anyway so why do you ask you don't
understand it> might be able to mediate here. I agree with PWL that saying "n*****" is rude cos generally it's a degrading slang term and there no need to use it in civilized polite conversation. I do not call black friends "n*****" etc. when chatting
them and I don't call white friends it either, likewise I don't expect anyone to call me ghostface or whatever. It's just not "nice".It is flirting with open warfare.>> Now skrip, the difference is also that Yes the culture here is that we are scared to
use the word for fear of legal retribution by our hypocritical anti-white race laws, which always side and excuse the minority rather than the majority eg. it's always the assumption that the white guy is the racist and non-whites cannot be racist,
Ghostface Killah was totally fine on MTV etc. Now, PWL try to understand that this is not the case in East Europe! or elsewhere(Asia, Middle East etc) where the laws back the majority not the minority, so they have no worries calling over-entitled or
spoilt or victim-playing black/foreign folks names or words to bring them down a level. It's like calling a someone "crazy" in an argument. It's the same in Africa, India or Middle East where they have equivalent words but for white folks eg. if a white
guy were acting over-entitled/spoilt/victim in India he would immediately be called Gorah(the n-word for whites in Asia), same in the Middle-East(they have another word), cos that brings him down a level, understand? as Jews got mentioned it may be that
cos of their huge influence on the West that's why are laws are skewed towards the minority, but haven't checked that yet.Interesting point.Starting with the assumption that this is correct, just for the sake of argumentative exploration, what would that
imply?>> Should add that find it quite pathetic/sad that blacks use the "N" word amongst themselves so freely as reckon it just degrades them and doesn't help them at all.That's an easy one: *I* get to say it, but you don't.This works at two levels:
societal and interpersonal.Let's work in reverse order.Interpersonally, between two individuals, or small groups, using n***** is very likely to result in physical harm. For the most part, black people can make this stick at the interpersonal level if
the "sides" are essentially equal in numerical strength. Most white people are afraid of black people--and in fact a part of one of Chris Rock's routines is that *he's* afraid of black people.But one step beyond that is to have so thoroughly hornswoggled
the society in general that while there may be legal restrictions against the use of this word, or others similar, the worst social response is tacit acceptance, and there's a fair chance of open sycophantic agreement.So what we've got now in the US is
so great a suck-up esteem for black culture that now *everyone* is a Blood or a Crip, and capping your enemies ass (figuratively or literally) over a minor disagreement is de regueur.> So disagree with the "N" word being used in regular conversation and
disagree with blacks using it too, but can understand why it gets used in East Europe and elsewhere in the world.It's a different cultural mindset. Neither good nor bad, but different, and apparently the way they like it.For back people I like and
respect--and there certainly are some--I'd NEVER use this word, out of personal respect.-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"It was public knowledge that Sawfish was a loner with strong misanthropic tendencies:
it was rare for him to even say a word to his dog."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

But it's not merely a nigger?
Apparently there's a jigaboo too.

Oh, the list is infinitely expandable! That's the point!

Have you ever asked someone who is an outspoken advocate of "human
rights" to give you, once and for all, a complete list of all human
rights?

It's about decency.

OK. Fair enough.

except he won't define decency. He'll give excuses about why non-white folks can act indecent eg. using the "n" word amongst themselves etc.
Marxists like bmoore always have an excuse for people behaving badly cos they say self-responsibility is wrong and it always someone else's fault, cos at end of the day they want the state running everything.

I think that if you can count on 85-90% public acceptance of societal
rules, you can become much more generous with humanitarian aid. I,
myself, miserly brute than I admitted am, would not have a lot of
problem with delivering social aid to *qualified* recipients. As to what constitutes "qualified*, I think it would be best if you got approval directly from the voting populace, and that the qualification were under periodic review for renewal.

But so long as social aid is determined and implemented by people whose
jobs and positions depend on servicing social programs, you've just
written a blank check to uncontrolled and ambitious ideologues. And very likely they will *encourage*, tacitly or overtly, the idea among
recipients that it's their undeniable *right* to receive the benefits,
thus ensuring that few recipients will seek to become self-reliant. Why should they, if becoming self-reliant effectively means waiving their
basic human right to childcare, e.g.? Their basic human right to
healthcare paid for by anyone but themselves?

That's the practical side of it, b. The moral side is so amorphous as to make me leave it alone, although my personal instinct is to help those
who have convinced me that they require help to survive.

The times I've done it online, I've never gotten an answer to
this, only clumsy dodges. It's because they want to be able to indulge
any future whims by adding them to the list.

Sure. But do you object to the concept of fundamental rights?

I don't object to people believing this, any more than I object to a
belief in a supreme being. *I* just don't believe in it, myself.

best idea is to do what you said you've done to others, ask bmoore to give us a list of fundamental rights.

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On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 11:34:54 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/7/23 11:08 AM, bmoore wrote:

On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 10:04:36 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/7/23 9:53 AM, *skriptis wrote:

Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On 9/7/23 1:03 AM, The Iceberg wrote:> On Wednesday, 6 September 2023 at 18:40:33 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:>> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>> *skriptis <skri...@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@

gmail.com> Wrote in message:> You didn't answer my question about your behavior being Christian.Also, I didn't insult Russians, I linked your behavior to Russians. I guess you must be ashamed of your behavior that was linked to Russians and saw your
behavior as insult to them.Now this is getting boring. You think we're all dumb and you so smart?-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlWhy are you switching the discussion, stay on topic.You said
you aren't bound by the same culture, taboos, religions, etc, but you keep talking about Christianity and Jesus as your spiritual driver in life.So how does all of this align together?>>>> You are not Christian anyway so why do you ask you don't
understand it> might be able to mediate here. I agree with PWL that saying "n*****" is rude cos generally it's a degrading slang term and there no need to use it in civilized polite conversation. I do not call black friends "n*****" etc. when chatting
them and I don't call white friends it either, likewise I don't expect anyone to call me ghostface or whatever. It's just not "nice".It is flirting with open warfare.>> Now skrip, the difference is also that Yes the culture here is that we are scared to
use the word for fear of legal retribution by our hypocritical anti-white race laws, which always side and excuse the minority rather than the majority eg. it's always the assumption that the white guy is the racist and non-whites cannot be racist,
Ghostface Killah was totally fine on MTV etc. Now, PWL try to understand that this is not the case in East Europe! or elsewhere(Asia, Middle East etc) where the laws back the majority not the minority, so they have no worries calling over-entitled or
spoilt or victim-playing black/foreign folks names or words to bring them down a level. It's like calling a someone "crazy" in an argument. It's the same in Africa, India or Middle East where they have equivalent words but for white folks eg. if a white
guy were acting over-entitled/spoilt/victim in India he would immediately be called Gorah(the n-word for whites in Asia), same in the Middle-East(they have another word), cos that brings him down a level, understand? as Jews got mentioned it may be that
cos of their huge influence on the West that's why are laws are skewed towards the minority, but haven't checked that yet.Interesting point.Starting with the assumption that this is correct, just for the sake of argumentative exploration, what would that
imply?>> Should add that find it quite pathetic/sad that blacks use the "N" word amongst themselves so freely as reckon it just degrades them and doesn't help them at all.That's an easy one: *I* get to say it, but you don't.This works at two levels:
societal and interpersonal.Let's work in reverse order.Interpersonally, between two individuals, or small groups, using n***** is very likely to result in physical harm. For the most part, black people can make this stick at the interpersonal level if
the "sides" are essentially equal in numerical strength. Most white people are afraid of black people--and in fact a part of one of Chris Rock's routines is that *he's* afraid of black people.But one step beyond that is to have so thoroughly hornswoggled
the society in general that while there may be legal restrictions against the use of this word, or others similar, the worst social response is tacit acceptance, and there's a fair chance of open sycophantic agreement.So what we've got now in the US is
so great a suck-up esteem for black culture that now *everyone* is a Blood or a Crip, and capping your enemies ass (figuratively or literally) over a minor disagreement is de regueur.> So disagree with the "N" word being used in regular conversation and
disagree with blacks using it too, but can understand why it gets used in East Europe and elsewhere in the world.It's a different cultural mindset. Neither good nor bad, but different, and apparently the way they like it.For back people I like and
respect--and there certainly are some--I'd NEVER use this word, out of personal respect.-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"It was public knowledge that Sawfish was a loner with strong misanthropic tendencies:
it was rare for him to even say a word to his dog."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

But it's not merely a nigger?
Apparently there's a jigaboo too.

Oh, the list is infinitely expandable! That's the point!

Have you ever asked someone who is an outspoken advocate of "human
rights" to give you, once and for all, a complete list of all human
rights?

It's about decency.

OK. Fair enough.

I think that if you can count on 85-90% public acceptance of societal
rules, you can become much more generous with humanitarian aid. I,
myself, miserly brute than I admitted am, would not have a lot of
problem with delivering social aid to *qualified* recipients. As to what constitutes "qualified*, I think it would be best if you got approval directly from the voting populace, and that the qualification were under periodic review for renewal.

But so long as social aid is determined and implemented by people whose
jobs and positions depend on servicing social programs, you've just
written a blank check to uncontrolled and ambitious ideologues. And very likely they will *encourage*, tacitly or overtly, the idea among
recipients that it's their undeniable *right* to receive the benefits,
thus ensuring that few recipients will seek to become self-reliant. Why should they, if becoming self-reliant effectively means waiving their
basic human right to childcare, e.g.? Their basic human right to
healthcare paid for by anyone but themselves?

I believe in universal health care, but I recognize it is not trivial to make it happen.

That's the practical side of it, b. The moral side is so amorphous as to make me leave it alone, although my personal instinct is to help those
who have convinced me that they require help to survive.

Makes sense. I'm a fan neither of self-entitled people nor their enablers, at all levels.

BTW, the question of what are human rights probably looks a lot different from a Chinese prison cell.

The times I've done it online, I've never gotten an answer to
this, only clumsy dodges. It's because they want to be able to indulge
any future whims by adding them to the list.

Sure. But do you object to the concept of fundamental rights?

I don't object to people believing this, any more than I object to a
belief in a supreme being. *I* just don't believe in it, myself.

It's very simple: rights are what the remainder of society let you do
consistently without interference. It changes all the time based on
culture and/or circumstance.

That's about it.

...and to borrow from that great social observer, Mr. T: "I pity the po' >> foo' who don't know that...".

I love it when a plan comes together.

Great feeling, isn't it?

Now cursing is done and it's time for *fun*!

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bmoore <bmoore@nyx.net> Wrote in message:r

On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 11:34:54 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:> On 9/7/23 11:08 AM, bmoore wrote: > > On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 10:04:36 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote: > >> On 9/7/23 9:53 AM, *skriptis wrote: > >>> Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.

Wrote in message:r > >>>> On 9/7/23 1:03 AM, The Iceberg wrote:> On Wednesday, 6 September 2023 at 18:40:33 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:>> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>> *skriptis <skri...@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r>

PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:> You didn't answer my question about your behavior being Christian.Also, I didn't insult Russians, I linked your behavior to Russians. I guess you must be ashamed of your behavior that was linked to
Russians and saw your behavior as insult to them.Now this is getting boring. You think we're all dumb and you so smart?-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlWhy are you switching the discussion,
stay on topic.You said you aren't bound by the same culture, taboos, religions, etc, but you keep talking about Christianity and Jesus as your spiritual driver in life.So how does all of this align together?>>>> You are not Christian anyway so why do you
ask you don't understand it> might be able to mediate here. I agree with PWL that saying "n*****" is rude cos generally it's a degrading slang term and there no need to use it in civilized polite conversation. I do not call black friends "n*****" etc.
when chatting them and I don't call white friends it either, likewise I don't expect anyone to call me ghostface or whatever. It's just not "nice".It is flirting with open warfare.>> Now skrip, the difference is also that Yes the culture here is that we
are scared to use the word for fear of legal retribution by our hypocritical anti-white race laws, which always side and excuse the minority rather than the majority eg. it's always the assumption that the white guy is the racist and non-whites cannot be
racist, Ghostface Killah was totally fine on MTV etc. Now, PWL try to understand that this is not the case in East Europe! or elsewhere(Asia, Middle East etc) where the laws back the majority not the minority, so they have no worries calling over-
entitled or spoilt or victim-playing black/foreign folks names or words to bring them down a level. It's like calling a someone "crazy" in an argument. It's the same in Africa, India or Middle East where they have equivalent words but for white folks eg.
if a white guy were acting over-entitled/spoilt/victim in India he would immediately be called Gorah(the n-word for whites in Asia), same in the Middle-East(they have another word), cos that brings him down a level, understand? as Jews got mentioned it
may be that cos of their huge influence on the West that's why are laws are skewed towards the minority, but haven't checked that yet.Interesting point.Starting with the assumption that this is correct, just for the sake of argumentative exploration,
what would that imply?>> Should add that find it quite pathetic/sad that blacks use the "N" word amongst themselves so freely as reckon it just degrades them and doesn't help them at all.That's an easy one: *I* get to say it, but you don't.This works at
two levels: societal and interpersonal.Let's work in reverse order.Interpersonally, between two individuals, or small groups, using n***** is very likely to result in physical harm. For the most part, black people can make this stick at the interpersonal
level if the "sides" are essentially equal in numerical strength. Most white people are afraid of black people--and in fact a part of one of Chris Rock's routines is that *he's* afraid of black people.But one step beyond that is to have so thoroughly
hornswoggled the society in general that while there may be legal restrictions against the use of this word, or others similar, the worst social response is tacit acceptance, and there's a fair chance of open sycophantic agreement.So what we've got now
in the US is so great a suck-up esteem for black culture that now *everyone* is a Blood or a Crip, and capping your enemies ass (figuratively or literally) over a minor disagreement is de regueur.> So disagree with the "N" word being used in regular
conversation and disagree with blacks using it too, but can understand why it gets used in East Europe and elsewhere in the world.It's a different cultural mindset. Neither good nor bad, but different, and apparently the way they like it.For back people
I like and respect--and there certainly are some--I'd NEVER use this word, out of personal respect.-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"It was public knowledge that Sawfish was a loner with strong misanthropic
tendencies: it was rare for him to even say a word to his dog."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >>> > >>> But it's not merely a nigger? > >>> Apparently there's a jigaboo too. > >> Oh, the list is infinitely
expandable! That's the point! > >> > >> Have you ever asked someone who is an outspoken advocate of "human > >> rights" to give you, once and for all, a complete list of all human > >> rights? > > It's about decency.> OK. Fair enough. > > I think that if
you can count on 85-90% public acceptance of societal > rules, you can become much more generous with humanitarian aid. I, > myself, miserly brute than I admitted am, would not have a lot of > problem with delivering social aid to *qualified* recipients.
As to what > constitutes "qualified*, I think it would be best if you got approval > directly from the voting populace, and that the qualification were under > periodic review for renewal. > > But so long as social aid is determined and implemented by
people whose > jobs and positions depend on servicing social programs, you've just > written a blank check to uncontrolled and ambitious ideologues. And very > likely they will *encourage*, tacitly or overtly, the idea among > recipients that it's their
undeniable *right* to receive the benefits, > thus ensuring that few recipients will seek to become self-reliant. Why > should they, if becoming self-reliant effectively means waiving their > basic human right to childcare, e.g.? Their basic human right
to > healthcare paid for by anyone but themselves? I believe in universal health care, but I recognize it is not trivial to make it happen.> That's the practical side of it, b. The moral side is so amorphous as to > make me leave it alone, although my
personal instinct is to help those > who have convinced me that they require help to survive.Makes sense. I'm a fan neither of self-entitled people nor their enablers, at all levels.BTW, the question of what are human rights probably looks a lot
different from a Chinese prison cell.> >> The times I've done it online, I've never gotten an answer to > >> this, only clumsy dodges. It's because they want to be able to indulge > >> any future whims by adding them to the list. > > Sure. But do you
object to the concept of fundamental rights?> I don't object to people believing this, any more than I object to a > belief in a supreme being. *I* just don't believe in it, myself.> > > >> It's very simple: rights are what the remainder of society let
you do > >> consistently without interference. It changes all the time based on > >> culture and/or circumstance. > >> > >> That's about it. > >> > >> ...and to borrow from that great social observer, Mr. T: "I pity the po' > >> foo' who don't know that..
.". > > I love it when a plan comes together.> Great feeling, isn't it? > > Now cursing is done and it's time for *fun*!



You should fear US prison cells.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wrongful_convictions_in_the_United_States



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On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 9:58:09 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/8/23 8:44 AM, bmoore wrote:

On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 11:34:54 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/7/23 11:08 AM, bmoore wrote:

On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 10:04:36 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote: >>>> On 9/7/23 9:53 AM, *skriptis wrote:

Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On 9/7/23 1:03 AM, The Iceberg wrote:> On Wednesday, 6 September 2023 at 18:40:33 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:>> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>> *skriptis <skri...@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@

gmail.com> Wrote in message:> You didn't answer my question about your behavior being Christian.Also, I didn't insult Russians, I linked your behavior to Russians. I guess you must be ashamed of your behavior that was linked to Russians and saw your
behavior as insult to them.Now this is getting boring. You think we're all dumb and you so smart?-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlWhy are you switching the discussion, stay on topic.You said
you aren't bound by the same culture, taboos, religions, etc, but you keep talking about Christianity and Jesus as your spiritual driver in life.So how does all of this align together?>>>> You are not Christian anyway so why do you ask you don't
understand it> might be able to mediate here. I agree with PWL that saying "n*****" is rude cos generally it's a degrading slang term and there no need to use it in civilized polite conversation. I do not call black friends "n*****" etc. when chatting
them and I don't call white friends it either, likewise I don't expect anyone to call me ghostface or whatever. It's just not "nice".It is flirting with open warfare.>> Now skrip, the difference is also that Yes the culture here is that we are scared to
use the word for fear of legal retribution by our hypocritical anti-white race laws, which always side and excuse the minority rather than the majority eg. it's always the assumption that the white guy is the racist and non-whites cannot be racist,
Ghostface Killah was totally fine on MTV etc. Now, PWL try to understand that this is not the case in East Europe! or elsewhere(Asia, Middle East etc) where the laws back the majority not the minority, so they have no worries calling over-entitled or
spoilt or victim-playing black/foreign folks names or words to bring them down a level. It's like calling a someone "crazy" in an argument. It's the same in Africa, India or Middle East where they have equivalent words but for white folks eg. if a white
guy were acting over-entitled/spoilt/victim in India he would immediately be called Gorah(the n-word for whites in Asia), same in the Middle-East(they have another word), cos that brings him down a level, understand? as Jews got mentioned it may be that
cos of their huge influence on the West that's why are laws are skewed towards the minority, but haven't checked that yet.Interesting point.Starting with the assumption that this is correct, just for the sake of argumentative exploration, what would that
imply?>> Should add that find it quite pathetic/sad that blacks use the "N" word amongst themselves so freely as reckon it just degrades them and doesn't help them at all.That's an easy one: *I* get to say it, but you don't.This works at two levels:
societal and interpersonal.Let's work in reverse order.Interpersonally, between two individuals, or small groups, using n***** is very likely to result in physical harm. For the most part, black people can make this stick at the interpersonal level if
the "sides" are essentially equal in numerical strength. Most white people are afraid of black people--and in fact a part of one of Chris Rock's routines is that *he's* afraid of black people.But one step beyond that is to have so thoroughly hornswoggled
the society in general that while there may be legal restrictions against the use of this word, or others similar, the worst social response is tacit acceptance, and there's a fair chance of open sycophantic agreement.So what we've got now in the US is
so great a suck-up esteem for black culture that now *everyone* is a Blood or a Crip, and capping your enemies ass (figuratively or literally) over a minor disagreement is de regueur.> So disagree with the "N" word being used in regular conversation and
disagree with blacks using it too, but can understand why it gets used in East Europe and elsewhere in the world.It's a different cultural mindset. Neither good nor bad, but different, and apparently the way they like it.For back people I like and
respect--and there certainly are some--I'd NEVER use this word, out of personal respect.-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"It was public knowledge that Sawfish was a loner with strong misanthropic tendencies:
it was rare for him to even say a word to his dog."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

But it's not merely a nigger?
Apparently there's a jigaboo too.

Oh, the list is infinitely expandable! That's the point!

Have you ever asked someone who is an outspoken advocate of "human
rights" to give you, once and for all, a complete list of all human >>>> rights?

It's about decency.

OK. Fair enough.

I think that if you can count on 85-90% public acceptance of societal
rules, you can become much more generous with humanitarian aid. I,
myself, miserly brute than I admitted am, would not have a lot of
problem with delivering social aid to *qualified* recipients. As to what >> constitutes "qualified*, I think it would be best if you got approval
directly from the voting populace, and that the qualification were under >> periodic review for renewal.

But so long as social aid is determined and implemented by people whose >> jobs and positions depend on servicing social programs, you've just
written a blank check to uncontrolled and ambitious ideologues. And very >> likely they will *encourage*, tacitly or overtly, the idea among
recipients that it's their undeniable *right* to receive the benefits,
thus ensuring that few recipients will seek to become self-reliant. Why >> should they, if becoming self-reliant effectively means waiving their
basic human right to childcare, e.g.? Their basic human right to
healthcare paid for by anyone but themselves?

I believe in universal health care, but I recognize it is not trivial to make it happen.

That's the practical side of it, b. The moral side is so amorphous as to >> make me leave it alone, although my personal instinct is to help those
who have convinced me that they require help to survive.

Makes sense. I'm a fan neither of self-entitled people nor their enablers, at all levels.

BTW, the question of what are human rights probably looks a lot different from a Chinese prison cell.

Good observation. POV is everything.

What was that old saying...?

"A conservative is a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is a
conservative who's been in jail..."

Excellent way of putting it.

...or Mel Brooks on the difference between comedy and tragedy...

"If you fall down the stairs, it's comedy. But if I fall down the
stairs, it's tragedy."

i get it, though it's kind of mean. But I love Mel Brooks.

The times I've done it online, I've never gotten an answer to
this, only clumsy dodges. It's because they want to be able to indulge >>>> any future whims by adding them to the list.

Sure. But do you object to the concept of fundamental rights?

I don't object to people believing this, any more than I object to a
belief in a supreme being. *I* just don't believe in it, myself.

It's very simple: rights are what the remainder of society let you do >>>> consistently without interference. It changes all the time based on >>>> culture and/or circumstance.

That's about it.

...and to borrow from that great social observer, Mr. T: "I pity the po'
foo' who don't know that...".

I love it when a plan comes together.

Great feeling, isn't it?

Now cursing is done and it's time for *fun*!

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 10:40:39 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/8/23 10:33 AM, bmoore wrote:

On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 9:58:09 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/8/23 8:44 AM, bmoore wrote:

On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 11:34:54 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote: >>>> On 9/7/23 11:08 AM, bmoore wrote:

On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 10:04:36 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote: >>>>>> On 9/7/23 9:53 AM, *skriptis wrote:

Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On 9/7/23 1:03 AM, The Iceberg wrote:> On Wednesday, 6 September 2023 at 18:40:33 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:>> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>> *skriptis <skri...@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@

gmail.com> Wrote in message:> You didn't answer my question about your behavior being Christian.Also, I didn't insult Russians, I linked your behavior to Russians. I guess you must be ashamed of your behavior that was linked to Russians and saw your
behavior as insult to them.Now this is getting boring. You think we're all dumb and you so smart?-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlWhy are you switching the discussion, stay on topic.You said
you aren't bound by the same culture, taboos, religions, etc, but you keep talking about Christianity and Jesus as your spiritual driver in life.So how does all of this align together?>>>> You are not Christian anyway so why do you ask you don't
understand it> might be able to mediate here. I agree with PWL that saying "n*****" is rude cos generally it's a degrading slang term and there no need to use it in civilized polite conversation. I do not call black friends "n*****" etc. when chatting
them and I don't call white friends it either, likewise I don't expect anyone to call me ghostface or whatever. It's just not "nice".It is flirting with open warfare.>> Now skrip, the difference is also that Yes the culture here is that we are scared to
use the word for fear of legal retribution by our hypocritical anti-white race laws, which always side and excuse the minority rather than the majority eg. it's always the assumption that the white guy is the racist and non-whites cannot be racist,
Ghostface Killah was totally fine on MTV etc. Now, PWL try to understand that this is not the case in East Europe! or elsewhere(Asia, Middle East etc) where the laws back the majority not the minority, so they have no worries calling over-entitled or
spoilt or victim-playing black/foreign folks names or words to bring them down a level. It's like calling a someone "crazy" in an argument. It's the same in Africa, India or Middle East where they have equivalent words but for white folks eg. if a white
guy were acting over-entitled/spoilt/victim in India he would immediately be called Gorah(the n-word for whites in Asia), same in the Middle-East(they have another word), cos that brings him down a level, understand? as Jews got mentioned it may be that
cos of their huge influence on the West that's why are laws are skewed towards the minority, but haven't checked that yet.Interesting point.Starting with the assumption that this is correct, just for the sake of argumentative exploration, what would that
imply?>> Should add that find it quite pathetic/sad that blacks use the "N" word amongst themselves so freely as reckon it just degrades them and doesn't help them at all.That's an easy one: *I* get to say it, but you don't.This works at two levels:
societal and interpersonal.Let's work in reverse order.Interpersonally, between two individuals, or small groups, using n***** is very likely to result in physical harm. For the most part, black people can make this stick at the interpersonal level if
the "sides" are essentially equal in numerical strength. Most white people are afraid of black people--and in fact a part of one of Chris Rock's routines is that *he's* afraid of black people.But one step beyond that is to have so thoroughly hornswoggled
the society in general that while there may be legal restrictions against the use of this word, or others similar, the worst social response is tacit acceptance, and there's a fair chance of open sycophantic agreement.So what we've got now in the US is
so great a suck-up esteem for black culture that now *everyone* is a Blood or a Crip, and capping your enemies ass (figuratively or literally) over a minor disagreement is de regueur.> So disagree with the "N" word being used in regular conversation and
disagree with blacks using it too, but can understand why it gets used in East Europe and elsewhere in the world.It's a different cultural mindset. Neither good nor bad, but different, and apparently the way they like it.For back people I like and
respect--and there certainly are some--I'd NEVER use this word, out of personal respect.-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"It was public knowledge that Sawfish was a loner with strong misanthropic tendencies:
it was rare for him to even say a word to his dog."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

But it's not merely a nigger?
Apparently there's a jigaboo too.

Oh, the list is infinitely expandable! That's the point!

Have you ever asked someone who is an outspoken advocate of "human >>>>>> rights" to give you, once and for all, a complete list of all human >>>>>> rights?

It's about decency.

OK. Fair enough.

I think that if you can count on 85-90% public acceptance of societal >>>> rules, you can become much more generous with humanitarian aid. I,
myself, miserly brute than I admitted am, would not have a lot of
problem with delivering social aid to *qualified* recipients. As to what
constitutes "qualified*, I think it would be best if you got approval >>>> directly from the voting populace, and that the qualification were under
periodic review for renewal.

But so long as social aid is determined and implemented by people whose >>>> jobs and positions depend on servicing social programs, you've just >>>> written a blank check to uncontrolled and ambitious ideologues. And very
likely they will *encourage*, tacitly or overtly, the idea among
recipients that it's their undeniable *right* to receive the benefits, >>>> thus ensuring that few recipients will seek to become self-reliant. Why >>>> should they, if becoming self-reliant effectively means waiving their >>>> basic human right to childcare, e.g.? Their basic human right to
healthcare paid for by anyone but themselves?

I believe in universal health care, but I recognize it is not trivial to make it happen.

That's the practical side of it, b. The moral side is so amorphous as to
make me leave it alone, although my personal instinct is to help those >>>> who have convinced me that they require help to survive.

Makes sense. I'm a fan neither of self-entitled people nor their enablers, at all levels.

BTW, the question of what are human rights probably looks a lot different from a Chinese prison cell.

Good observation. POV is everything.

What was that old saying...?

"A conservative is a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is a
conservative who's been in jail..."

Excellent way of putting it.

...or Mel Brooks on the difference between comedy and tragedy...

"If you fall down the stairs, it's comedy. But if I fall down the
stairs, it's tragedy."

i get it, though it's kind of mean. But I love Mel Brooks.

Here's what he's doing, though...he's *TELLING* you that by nature,
humans are kinda mean and petty.

And the very fact that listeners *got* the joke, without having to have
it explained to them, indicates that they, themselves, recognize this as common.

Most people get that humanity, for the most part, sucks. Gotta find the good ones.

So, people are mean and petty.

Many, but not all.

Which partly informs my lifelong misanthropy.

Understood.

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On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:08:50 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/8/23 10:52 AM, bmoore wrote:

On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 10:40:39 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/8/23 10:33 AM, bmoore wrote:

On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 9:58:09 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/8/23 8:44 AM, bmoore wrote:

On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 11:34:54 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote: >>>>>> On 9/7/23 11:08 AM, bmoore wrote:

On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 10:04:36 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/7/23 9:53 AM, *skriptis wrote:

Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On 9/7/23 1:03 AM, The Iceberg wrote:> On Wednesday, 6 September 2023 at 18:40:33 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:>> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>> *skriptis <skri...@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> PeteWasLucky <waleed...

@gmail.com> Wrote in message:> You didn't answer my question about your behavior being Christian.Also, I didn't insult Russians, I linked your behavior to Russians. I guess you must be ashamed of your behavior that was linked to Russians and saw your
behavior as insult to them.Now this is getting boring. You think we're all dumb and you so smart?-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlWhy are you switching the discussion, stay on topic.You said
you aren't bound by the same culture, taboos, religions, etc, but you keep talking about Christianity and Jesus as your spiritual driver in life.So how does all of this align together?>>>> You are not Christian anyway so why do you ask you don't
understand it> might be able to mediate here. I agree with PWL that saying "n*****" is rude cos generally it's a degrading slang term and there no need to use it in civilized polite conversation. I do not call black friends "n*****" etc. when chatting
them and I don't call white friends it either, likewise I don't expect anyone to call me ghostface or whatever. It's just not "nice".It is flirting with open warfare.>> Now skrip, the difference is also that Yes the culture here is that we are scared to
use the word for fear of legal retribution by our hypocritical anti-white race laws, which always side and excuse the minority rather than the majority eg. it's always the assumption that the white guy is the racist and non-whites cannot be racist,
Ghostface Killah was totally fine on MTV etc. Now, PWL try to understand that this is not the case in East Europe! or elsewhere(Asia, Middle East etc) where the laws back the majority not the minority, so they have no worries calling over-entitled or
spoilt or victim-playing black/foreign folks names or words to bring them down a level. It's like calling a someone "crazy" in an argument. It's the same in Africa, India or Middle East where they have equivalent words but for white folks eg. if a white
guy were acting over-entitled/spoilt/victim in India he would immediately be called Gorah(the n-word for whites in Asia), same in the Middle-East(they have another word), cos that brings him down a level, understand? as Jews got mentioned it may be that
cos of their huge influence on the West that's why are laws are skewed towards the minority, but haven't checked that yet.Interesting point.Starting with the assumption that this is correct, just for the sake of argumentative exploration, what would that
imply?>> Should add that find it quite pathetic/sad that blacks use the "N" word amongst themselves so freely as reckon it just degrades them and doesn't help them at all.That's an easy one: *I* get to say it, but you don't.This works at two levels:
societal and interpersonal.Let's work in reverse order.Interpersonally, between two individuals, or small groups, using n***** is very likely to result in physical harm. For the most part, black people can make this stick at the interpersonal level if
the "sides" are essentially equal in numerical strength. Most white people are afraid of black people--and in fact a part of one of Chris Rock's routines is that *he's* afraid of black people.But one step beyond that is to have so thoroughly hornswoggled
the society in general that while there may be legal restrictions against the use of this word, or others similar, the worst social response is tacit acceptance, and there's a fair chance of open sycophantic agreement.So what we've got now in the US is
so great a suck-up esteem for black culture that now *everyone* is a Blood or a Crip, and capping your enemies ass (figuratively or literally) over a minor disagreement is de regueur.> So disagree with the "N" word being used in regular conversation and
disagree with blacks using it too, but can understand why it gets used in East Europe and elsewhere in the world.It's a different cultural mindset. Neither good nor bad, but different, and apparently the way they like it.For back people I like and
respect--and there certainly are some--I'd NEVER use this word, out of personal respect.-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"It was public knowledge that Sawfish was a loner with strong misanthropic tendencies:
it was rare for him to even say a word to his dog."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

But it's not merely a nigger?
Apparently there's a jigaboo too.

Oh, the list is infinitely expandable! That's the point!

Have you ever asked someone who is an outspoken advocate of "human >>>>>>>> rights" to give you, once and for all, a complete list of all human >>>>>>>> rights?

It's about decency.

OK. Fair enough.

I think that if you can count on 85-90% public acceptance of societal >>>>>> rules, you can become much more generous with humanitarian aid. I, >>>>>> myself, miserly brute than I admitted am, would not have a lot of >>>>>> problem with delivering social aid to *qualified* recipients. As to what
constitutes "qualified*, I think it would be best if you got approval >>>>>> directly from the voting populace, and that the qualification were under
periodic review for renewal.

But so long as social aid is determined and implemented by people whose
jobs and positions depend on servicing social programs, you've just >>>>>> written a blank check to uncontrolled and ambitious ideologues. And very
likely they will *encourage*, tacitly or overtly, the idea among >>>>>> recipients that it's their undeniable *right* to receive the benefits,
thus ensuring that few recipients will seek to become self-reliant. Why
should they, if becoming self-reliant effectively means waiving their >>>>>> basic human right to childcare, e.g.? Their basic human right to >>>>>> healthcare paid for by anyone but themselves?

I believe in universal health care, but I recognize it is not trivial to make it happen.

That's the practical side of it, b. The moral side is so amorphous as to
make me leave it alone, although my personal instinct is to help those
who have convinced me that they require help to survive.

Makes sense. I'm a fan neither of self-entitled people nor their enablers, at all levels.

BTW, the question of what are human rights probably looks a lot different from a Chinese prison cell.

Good observation. POV is everything.

What was that old saying...?

"A conservative is a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is a
conservative who's been in jail..."

Excellent way of putting it.

...or Mel Brooks on the difference between comedy and tragedy...

"If you fall down the stairs, it's comedy. But if I fall down the
stairs, it's tragedy."

i get it, though it's kind of mean. But I love Mel Brooks.

Here's what he's doing, though...he's *TELLING* you that by nature,
humans are kinda mean and petty.

And the very fact that listeners *got* the joke, without having to have >> it explained to them, indicates that they, themselves, recognize this as >> common.

Most people get that humanity, for the most part, sucks. Gotta find the good ones.

So, people are mean and petty.

Many, but not all.

Which partly informs my lifelong misanthropy.

Understood.

OK, one last explanation.

I think I'm seeing the whole thing about the same way as you are, but
I'm a sort of guarded pessimistic paranoid by nature. I agree with your observation about "good ones" and "many but not all". So what happens is that when I meet people I am more ready to think that they'll not meet
the qualifications as "good ones"; they are at that point
"undetermined", and I cannot afford them the same level of trust as
"good ones". But nor do I judge them as dangerous, simply as potentially untrustworthy.

It takes quite a while to tell. When I feel pretty certain--and this generally takes years--they're in the "good ones" category.

Similarly, on the other end very few people are proven to be actively malevolent. This, too, is a special group. Most are simply in the middle group: possibly untrustworthy because of lack of insight/intelligence/objectivity/solipsism. That ain't bad--simply the average human.

Sure, Saw, thanks for the clear clarification. I agree that it can take years to sort people out.

But once you find 'em, keep 'em. If they let you down, you thought wrong. It's a hard fall.

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On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 12:04:04 PM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/8/23 11:46 AM, bmoore wrote:

On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:08:50 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/8/23 10:52 AM, bmoore wrote:

On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 10:40:39 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/8/23 10:33 AM, bmoore wrote:

On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 9:58:09 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote: >>>>>> On 9/8/23 8:44 AM, bmoore wrote:

On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 11:34:54 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/7/23 11:08 AM, bmoore wrote:

On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 10:04:36 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/7/23 9:53 AM, *skriptis wrote:

Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On 9/7/23 1:03 AM, The Iceberg wrote:> On Wednesday, 6 September 2023 at 18:40:33 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:>> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>> *skriptis <skri...@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> PeteWasLucky <waleed.

..@gmail.com> Wrote in message:> You didn't answer my question about your behavior being Christian.Also, I didn't insult Russians, I linked your behavior to Russians. I guess you must be ashamed of your behavior that was linked to Russians and saw your
behavior as insult to them.Now this is getting boring. You think we're all dumb and you so smart?-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlWhy are you switching the discussion, stay on topic.You said
you aren't bound by the same culture, taboos, religions, etc, but you keep talking about Christianity and Jesus as your spiritual driver in life.So how does all of this align together?>>>> You are not Christian anyway so why do you ask you don't
understand it> might be able to mediate here. I agree with PWL that saying "n*****" is rude cos generally it's a degrading slang term and there no need to use it in civilized polite conversation. I do not call black friends "n*****" etc. when chatting
them and I don't call white friends it either, likewise I don't expect anyone to call me ghostface or whatever. It's just not "nice".It is flirting with open warfare.>> Now skrip, the difference is also that Yes the culture here is that we are scared to
use the word for fear of legal retribution by our hypocritical anti-white race laws, which always side and excuse the minority rather than the majority eg. it's always the assumption that the white guy is the racist and non-whites cannot be racist,
Ghostface Killah was totally fine on MTV etc. Now, PWL try to understand that this is not the case in East Europe! or elsewhere(Asia, Middle East etc) where the laws back the majority not the minority, so they have no worries calling over-entitled or
spoilt or victim-playing black/foreign folks names or words to bring them down a level. It's like calling a someone "crazy" in an argument. It's the same in Africa, India or Middle East where they have equivalent words but for white folks eg. if a white
guy were acting over-entitled/spoilt/victim in India he would immediately be called Gorah(the n-word for whites in Asia), same in the Middle-East(they have another word), cos that brings him down a level, understand? as Jews got mentioned it may be that
cos of their huge influence on the West that's why are laws are skewed towards the minority, but haven't checked that yet.Interesting point.Starting with the assumption that this is correct, just for the sake of argumentative exploration, what would that
imply?>> Should add that find it quite pathetic/sad that blacks use the "N" word amongst themselves so freely as reckon it just degrades them and doesn't help them at all.That's an easy one: *I* get to say it, but you don't.This works at two levels:
societal and interpersonal.Let's work in reverse order.Interpersonally, between two individuals, or small groups, using n***** is very likely to result in physical harm. For the most part, black people can make this stick at the interpersonal level if
the "sides" are essentially equal in numerical strength. Most white people are afraid of black people--and in fact a part of one of Chris Rock's routines is that *he's* afraid of black people.But one step beyond that is to have so thoroughly hornswoggled
the society in general that while there may be legal restrictions against the use of this word, or others similar, the worst social response is tacit acceptance, and there's a fair chance of open sycophantic agreement.So what we've got now in the US is
so great a suck-up esteem for black culture that now *everyone* is a Blood or a Crip, and capping your enemies ass (figuratively or literally) over a minor disagreement is de regueur.> So disagree with the "N" word being used in regular conversation and
disagree with blacks using it too, but can understand why it gets used in East Europe and elsewhere in the world.It's a different cultural mindset. Neither good nor bad, but different, and apparently the way they like it.For back people I like and
respect--and there certainly are some--I'd NEVER use this word, out of personal respect.-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"It was public knowledge that Sawfish was a loner with strong misanthropic tendencies:
it was rare for him to even say a word to his dog."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

But it's not merely a nigger?
Apparently there's a jigaboo too.

Oh, the list is infinitely expandable! That's the point! >>>>>>>>>>
Have you ever asked someone who is an outspoken advocate of "human
rights" to give you, once and for all, a complete list of all human
rights?

It's about decency.

OK. Fair enough.

I think that if you can count on 85-90% public acceptance of societal
rules, you can become much more generous with humanitarian aid. I, >>>>>>>> myself, miserly brute than I admitted am, would not have a lot of >>>>>>>> problem with delivering social aid to *qualified* recipients. As to what
constitutes "qualified*, I think it would be best if you got approval
directly from the voting populace, and that the qualification were under
periodic review for renewal.

But so long as social aid is determined and implemented by people whose
jobs and positions depend on servicing social programs, you've just >>>>>>>> written a blank check to uncontrolled and ambitious ideologues. And very
likely they will *encourage*, tacitly or overtly, the idea among >>>>>>>> recipients that it's their undeniable *right* to receive the benefits,
thus ensuring that few recipients will seek to become self-reliant. Why
should they, if becoming self-reliant effectively means waiving their
basic human right to childcare, e.g.? Their basic human right to >>>>>>>> healthcare paid for by anyone but themselves?

I believe in universal health care, but I recognize it is not trivial to make it happen.

That's the practical side of it, b. The moral side is so amorphous as to
make me leave it alone, although my personal instinct is to help those
who have convinced me that they require help to survive.

Makes sense. I'm a fan neither of self-entitled people nor their enablers, at all levels.

BTW, the question of what are human rights probably looks a lot different from a Chinese prison cell.

Good observation. POV is everything.

What was that old saying...?

"A conservative is a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is a
conservative who's been in jail..."

Excellent way of putting it.

...or Mel Brooks on the difference between comedy and tragedy... >>>>>>
"If you fall down the stairs, it's comedy. But if I fall down the >>>>>> stairs, it's tragedy."

i get it, though it's kind of mean. But I love Mel Brooks.

Here's what he's doing, though...he's *TELLING* you that by nature, >>>> humans are kinda mean and petty.

And the very fact that listeners *got* the joke, without having to have >>>> it explained to them, indicates that they, themselves, recognize this as
common.

Most people get that humanity, for the most part, sucks. Gotta find the good ones.

So, people are mean and petty.

Many, but not all.

Which partly informs my lifelong misanthropy.

Understood.

OK, one last explanation.

I think I'm seeing the whole thing about the same way as you are, but
I'm a sort of guarded pessimistic paranoid by nature. I agree with your >> observation about "good ones" and "many but not all". So what happens is >> that when I meet people I am more ready to think that they'll not meet
the qualifications as "good ones"; they are at that point
"undetermined", and I cannot afford them the same level of trust as
"good ones". But nor do I judge them as dangerous, simply as potentially >> untrustworthy.

It takes quite a while to tell. When I feel pretty certain--and this
generally takes years--they're in the "good ones" category.

Similarly, on the other end very few people are proven to be actively
malevolent. This, too, is a special group. Most are simply in the middle >> group: possibly untrustworthy because of lack of
insight/intelligence/objectivity/solipsism. That ain't bad--simply the
average human.

Sure, Saw, thanks for the clear clarification. I agree that it can take years to sort people out.

But once you find 'em, keep 'em. If they let you down, you thought wrong. It's a hard fall.

It is...

It's a fuckin' disaster...

But that was when you were younger, right?

Sometimes you can repair it, but not always.

The keepers, they are the best. You gotta be old to get it.

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On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 3:15:30 PM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/8/23 2:09 PM, bmoore wrote:

On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 12:04:04 PM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/8/23 11:46 AM, bmoore wrote:

On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:08:50 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/8/23 10:52 AM, bmoore wrote:

On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 10:40:39 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote: >>>>>> On 9/8/23 10:33 AM, bmoore wrote:

On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 9:58:09 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote: >>>>>>>> On 9/8/23 8:44 AM, bmoore wrote:

On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 11:34:54 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/7/23 11:08 AM, bmoore wrote:

On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 10:04:36 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/7/23 9:53 AM, *skriptis wrote:

Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On 9/7/23 1:03 AM, The Iceberg wrote:> On Wednesday, 6 September 2023 at 18:40:33 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:>> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>> *skriptis <skri...@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> PeteWasLucky <

waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:> You didn't answer my question about your behavior being Christian.Also, I didn't insult Russians, I linked your behavior to Russians. I guess you must be ashamed of your behavior that was linked to Russians and saw
your behavior as insult to them.Now this is getting boring. You think we're all dumb and you so smart?-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlWhy are you switching the discussion, stay on topic.You
said you aren't bound by the same culture, taboos, religions, etc, but you keep talking about Christianity and Jesus as your spiritual driver in life.So how does all of this align together?>>>> You are not Christian anyway so why do you ask you don't
understand it> might be able to mediate here. I agree with PWL that saying "n*****" is rude cos generally it's a degrading slang term and there no need to use it in civilized polite conversation. I do not call black friends "n*****" etc. when chatting
them and I don't call white friends it either, likewise I don't expect anyone to call me ghostface or whatever. It's just not "nice".It is flirting with open warfare.>> Now skrip, the difference is also that Yes the culture here is that we are scared to
use the word for fear of legal retribution by our hypocritical anti-white race laws, which always side and excuse the minority rather than the majority eg. it's always the assumption that the white guy is the racist and non-whites cannot be racist,
Ghostface Killah was totally fine on MTV etc. Now, PWL try to understand that this is not the case in East Europe! or elsewhere(Asia, Middle East etc) where the laws back the majority not the minority, so they have no worries calling over-entitled or
spoilt or victim-playing black/foreign folks names or words to bring them down a level. It's like calling a someone "crazy" in an argument. It's the same in Africa, India or Middle East where they have equivalent words but for white folks eg. if a white
guy were acting over-entitled/spoilt/victim in India he would immediately be called Gorah(the n-word for whites in Asia), same in the Middle-East(they have another word), cos that brings him down a level, understand? as Jews got mentioned it may be that
cos of their huge influence on the West that's why are laws are skewed towards the minority, but haven't checked that yet.Interesting point.Starting with the assumption that this is correct, just for the sake of argumentative exploration, what would that
imply?>> Should add that find it quite pathetic/sad that blacks use the "N" word amongst themselves so freely as reckon it just degrades them and doesn't help them at all.That's an easy one: *I* get to say it, but you don't.This works at two levels:
societal and interpersonal.Let's work in reverse order.Interpersonally, between two individuals, or small groups, using n***** is very likely to result in physical harm. For the most part, black people can make this stick at the interpersonal level if
the "sides" are essentially equal in numerical strength. Most white people are afraid of black people--and in fact a part of one of Chris Rock's routines is that *he's* afraid of black people.But one step beyond that is to have so thoroughly hornswoggled
the society in general that while there may be legal restrictions against the use of this word, or others similar, the worst social response is tacit acceptance, and there's a fair chance of open sycophantic agreement.So what we've got now in the US is
so great a suck-up esteem for black culture that now *everyone* is a Blood or a Crip, and capping your enemies ass (figuratively or literally) over a minor disagreement is de regueur.> So disagree with the "N" word being used in regular conversation and
disagree with blacks using it too, but can understand why it gets used in East Europe and elsewhere in the world.It's a different cultural mindset. Neither good nor bad, but different, and apparently the way they like it.For back people I like and
respect--and there certainly are some--I'd NEVER use this word, out of personal respect.-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"It was public knowledge that Sawfish was a loner with strong misanthropic tendencies:
it was rare for him to even say a word to his dog."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

But it's not merely a nigger?
Apparently there's a jigaboo too.

Oh, the list is infinitely expandable! That's the point! >>>>>>>>>>>>
Have you ever asked someone who is an outspoken advocate of "human
rights" to give you, once and for all, a complete list of all human
rights?

It's about decency.

OK. Fair enough.

I think that if you can count on 85-90% public acceptance of societal
rules, you can become much more generous with humanitarian aid. I,
myself, miserly brute than I admitted am, would not have a lot of >>>>>>>>>> problem with delivering social aid to *qualified* recipients. As to what
constitutes "qualified*, I think it would be best if you got approval
directly from the voting populace, and that the qualification were under
periodic review for renewal.

But so long as social aid is determined and implemented by people whose
jobs and positions depend on servicing social programs, you've just
written a blank check to uncontrolled and ambitious ideologues. And very
likely they will *encourage*, tacitly or overtly, the idea among >>>>>>>>>> recipients that it's their undeniable *right* to receive the benefits,
thus ensuring that few recipients will seek to become self-reliant. Why
should they, if becoming self-reliant effectively means waiving their
basic human right to childcare, e.g.? Their basic human right to >>>>>>>>>> healthcare paid for by anyone but themselves?

I believe in universal health care, but I recognize it is not trivial to make it happen.

That's the practical side of it, b. The moral side is so amorphous as to
make me leave it alone, although my personal instinct is to help those
who have convinced me that they require help to survive. >>>>>>>>> Makes sense. I'm a fan neither of self-entitled people nor their enablers, at all levels.

BTW, the question of what are human rights probably looks a lot different from a Chinese prison cell.

Good observation. POV is everything.

What was that old saying...?

"A conservative is a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is a >>>>>>>> conservative who's been in jail..."

Excellent way of putting it.

...or Mel Brooks on the difference between comedy and tragedy... >>>>>>>>
"If you fall down the stairs, it's comedy. But if I fall down the >>>>>>>> stairs, it's tragedy."

i get it, though it's kind of mean. But I love Mel Brooks.

Here's what he's doing, though...he's *TELLING* you that by nature, >>>>>> humans are kinda mean and petty.

And the very fact that listeners *got* the joke, without having to have
it explained to them, indicates that they, themselves, recognize this as
common.

Most people get that humanity, for the most part, sucks. Gotta find the good ones.

So, people are mean and petty.

Many, but not all.

Which partly informs my lifelong misanthropy.

Understood.

OK, one last explanation.

I think I'm seeing the whole thing about the same way as you are, but >>>> I'm a sort of guarded pessimistic paranoid by nature. I agree with your >>>> observation about "good ones" and "many but not all". So what happens is
that when I meet people I am more ready to think that they'll not meet >>>> the qualifications as "good ones"; they are at that point
"undetermined", and I cannot afford them the same level of trust as >>>> "good ones". But nor do I judge them as dangerous, simply as potentially
untrustworthy.

It takes quite a while to tell. When I feel pretty certain--and this >>>> generally takes years--they're in the "good ones" category.

Similarly, on the other end very few people are proven to be actively >>>> malevolent. This, too, is a special group. Most are simply in the middle
group: possibly untrustworthy because of lack of
insight/intelligence/objectivity/solipsism. That ain't bad--simply the >>>> average human.

Sure, Saw, thanks for the clear clarification. I agree that it can take years to sort people out.

But once you find 'em, keep 'em. If they let you down, you thought wrong. It's a hard fall.

It is...

It's a fuckin' disaster...

But that was when you were younger, right?

Yes.

Sometimes you can repair it, but not always.

The keepers, they are the best. You gotta be old to get it.

You get better at it just like anything else. First, though, is to
actually recognize who/what you are (as best you can tell from your own
POV, which is of course highly suspect... ;^) )

Of course, but it evolves.

No shit, maybe 40 years ago I "invented" the concept of the periodic self-administered psychic colonoscopy. It is as if you bend over in
front of a mirror and force yourself to look *real hard*. You won't like much of what you see, but it's there, and you can choose to try to fix
it, or admit to your ugly karmic hemorrhoids and resolve to live with them.

Deep, man.

Mostly I've tried to fix as many as I reasonably can, but some I can't fix...

You have to do this at least once every five years or so.

Like a colonoscopy.

...or not. :^)

[/lecture off]

Good lecture.

Gotta get the polyps removed :-)

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bmoore kirjoitti 8.9.2023 klo 20.33:

But I love Mel Brooks.

Skriptis will have a heart attack.

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On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 4:11:57 PM UTC-7, TT wrote:

bmoore kirjoitti 8.9.2023 klo 20.33:

But I love Mel Brooks.

Skriptis will have a heart attack.

Oh yeah, I forgot that he is Jewish! Now listening to Bob Dylan.

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