I know it's stupid :)

I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3 hours playing singles 3-4 times a week

Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before playing and during play.

Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that I am playing very constrained.

Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it has to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry my weight.

I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before the freaking winter comes here.

Have any of you experience something like this before? Any shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without stopping playing? :)



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On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 11:18:48 AM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:

I know it's stupid :)

I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3 hours playing singles 3-4 times a week

Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before playing and during play.

Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that I am playing very constrained.

Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it has to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry my weight.

I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before the freaking winter comes here.

Have any of you experience something like this before? Any shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without stopping playing? :)

It's not stupid, it's your health.

Maybe switch between ibuprofen (Advil, Motrin) and acetaminophen (Tylenol, etc.). This is what doctors say these days.

But check with a doctor, please.

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On 9/1/23 11:18 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:

I know it's stupid :)

I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3 hours playing singles 3-4 times a week

Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before playing and during play.

Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that I am playing very constrained.

Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it has to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry my weight.

I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before the freaking winter comes here.

Have any of you experience something like this before? Any shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without stopping playing? :)

I sincerely wish you luck with this, Pete.

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On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 11:58:31 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/1/23 11:18 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:

I know it's stupid :)

I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3 hours playing singles 3-4 times a week

Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before playing and during play.

Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that I am playing very constrained.

Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it has to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry my weight.

I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before the freaking winter comes here.

Have any of you experience something like this before? Any shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without stopping playing? :)

I sincerely wish you luck with this, Pete.

The thing about aspirin-like drugs is that you can't just shove 'em in like you can do with antibiotics. They kill pain but only for a while. So you can't rely on Advil because it it will stop working if you gobble it down.

My first suggestion is to see your doctor.

Saw, old man, you agree?

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On 9/1/23 12:09 PM, bmoore wrote:

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 11:58:31 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/1/23 11:18 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:

I know it's stupid :)

I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3 hours playing singles 3-4 times a week

Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before playing and during play.

Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that I am playing very constrained.

Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it has to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry my weight.

I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before the freaking winter comes here.

Have any of you experience something like this before? Any shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without stopping playing? :)

I sincerely wish you luck with this, Pete.

The thing about aspirin-like drugs is that you can't just shove 'em in like you can do with antibiotics. They kill pain but only for a while. So you can't rely on Advil because it it will stop working if you gobble it down.

My first suggestion is to see your doctor.

Saw, old man, you agree?

Yes.

Best of luck with this, Pete!

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bmoore <bmoore@nyx.net> Wrote in message:r

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 11:58:31AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:> On 9/1/23 11:18 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote: > > I know it's stupid :) > > > > I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of May. I never stopped playing tennis and I

could be on court 2-3 hours playing singles 3-4 times a week > > > > Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before playing and during play. > > > > Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that I am playing very
constrained. > > > > Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it has to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry my weight. > > > > I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before the freaking
winter comes here. > > > > Have any of you experience something like this before? Any shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without stopping playing? :) > > > > > >> I sincerely wish you luck with this, Pete. The thing about aspirin-like drugs is that
you can't just shove 'em in like you can do with antibiotics. They kill pain but only for a while. So you can't rely on Advil because it it will stop working if you gobble it down.My first suggestion is to see your doctor. Saw, old man, you agree?

I am very careful with meds.
I only take advil before playing, take two 200mg at the start of the play and may take a third after I am done, most probably won't take it.
I don't take any when I don't play.

I was just wondering if any one had magical ways to deal with it.

I wear a plantar fasciitis splint at night, it helps reduce the pain when I wake up.
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On 9/1/2023 1:18 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:

I know it's stupid :)

I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3 hours playing singles 3-4 times a week

Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before playing and during play.

Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that I am playing very constrained.

Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it has to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry my weight.

I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before the freaking winter comes here.

Have any of you experience something like this before? Any shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without stopping playing? :)

My feet used to bother me after playing tennis until I started noticing
that some pro's take off their shoes and socks before leaving the court.
They put on flip-flops or sandals. I started doing that and I noticed
that it allowed my feet to recover much faster (cooling them and
stretching them out I assume). Might want to try that.
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On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 20:10:01 UTC+1, bmoore wrote:

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 11:58:31 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/1/23 11:18 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:

I know it's stupid :)

I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3 hours playing singles 3-4 times a week

Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before playing and during play.

Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that I am playing very constrained.

Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it has to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry my weight.

I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before the freaking winter comes here.

Have any of you experience something like this before? Any shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without stopping playing? :)

I sincerely wish you luck with this, Pete.

The thing about aspirin-like drugs is that you can't just shove 'em in like you can do with antibiotics. They kill pain but only for a while. So you can't rely on Advil because it it will stop working if you gobble it down.

My first suggestion is to see your doctor.

Saw, old man, you agree?

you'd be mad to go to see a doctor for something like this, he'd prob only try to sell you the strongest drugs he possibly could!

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On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 23:28:56 UTC+1, Scall5 wrote:

On 9/1/2023 1:18 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:

I know it's stupid :)

I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3 hours playing singles 3-4 times a week

Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before playing and during play.

Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that I am playing very constrained.

Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it has to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry my weight.

I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before the freaking winter comes here.

Have any of you experience something like this before? Any shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without stopping playing? :)

My feet used to bother me after playing tennis until I started noticing
that some pro's take off their shoes and socks before leaving the court.
They put on flip-flops or sandals. I started doing that and I noticed
that it allowed my feet to recover much faster (cooling them and
stretching them out I assume). Might want to try that.

Great tip, PWL also try walking around the house bare footed as much as possible to strengthen your arches and toughen up your foot base.

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On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 20:43:16 UTC+1, PeteWasLucky wrote:

bmoore <bmo...@nyx.net> Wrote in message:r

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 11:58:31 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:> On 9/1/23 11:18 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote: > > I know it's stupid :) > > > > I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of May. I never stopped playing tennis and I

could be on court 2-3 hours playing singles 3-4 times a week > > > > Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before playing and during play. > > > > Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that I am playing very
constrained. > > > > Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it has to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry my weight. > > > > I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before the freaking
winter comes here. > > > > Have any of you experience something like this before? Any shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without stopping playing? :) > > > > > >> I sincerely wish you luck with this, Pete. The thing about aspirin-like drugs is that
you can't just shove 'em in like you can do with antibiotics. They kill pain but only for a while. So you can't rely on Advil because it it will stop working if you gobble it down.My first suggestion is to see your doctor. Saw, old man, you agree?

I am very careful with meds.
I only take advil before playing, take two 200mg at the start of the play and may take a third after I am done, most probably won't take it.
I don't take any when I don't play.

I was just wondering if any one had magical ways to deal with it.

I wear a plantar fasciitis splint at night, it helps reduce the pain when I wake up.

my advice would be to ditch the Advil and use (as bmoore rightly suggests) ibuprofen and take 2 days rest - yes that may suck, but you'll prob be way way better after that for a good week or two. As bmoore says Advil is just a pain killer and won't help
with your overuse injury, whereas the ibu's reduce imflammation which is what your fake plantar fascitis is all about - call it fake plantar fascitis cos absolutely everyone is now diagnosed with "plantar fascitis" if they have any foot complaint
whatsoever these days. 10 years ago physios only told people they had plantar fascitis if it was majorly serious, although even then it was mostly cos they didn't know what was wrong.

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On 9/1/23 4:55 PM, The Iceberg wrote:

On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 20:10:01 UTC+1, bmoore wrote:

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 11:58:31 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/1/23 11:18 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:

I know it's stupid :)

I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3 hours playing singles 3-4 times a week

Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before playing and during play.

Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that I am playing very constrained.

Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it has to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry my weight.

I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before the freaking winter comes here.

Have any of you experience something like this before? Any shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without stopping playing? :)

I sincerely wish you luck with this, Pete.

The thing about aspirin-like drugs is that you can't just shove 'em in like you can do with antibiotics. They kill pain but only for a while. So you can't rely on Advil because it it will stop working if you gobble it down.

My first suggestion is to see your doctor.

Saw, old man, you agree?

you'd be mad to go to see a doctor for something like this, he'd prob only try to sell you the strongest drugs he possibly could!

Should always try to see a doctor you know personally, and with whom
you've socialized.

For exactly the same reasons you say, Ice: over-medication.

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The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 20:43:16 UTC+1, PeteWasLucky wrote:> bmoore <bmo...@nyx.net> Wrote in message:r > > On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 11:58:31 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:> On 9/1/23 11:18 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote: > > I know it's stupid :) > > >
I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3 hours playing singles 3-4 times a week > > > > Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before playing

and during play. > > > > Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that I am playing very constrained. > > > > Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it has to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body
to carry my weight. > > > > I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before the freaking winter comes here. > > > > Have any of you experience something like this before? Any shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without stopping
playing? :) > > > > > >> I sincerely wish you luck with this, Pete. The thing about aspirin-like drugs is that you can't just shove 'em in like you can do with antibiotics. They kill pain but only for a while. So you can't rely on Advil because it it
will stop working if you gobble it down.My first suggestion is to see your doctor. Saw, old man, you agree? > > I am very careful with meds. > I only take advil before playing, take two 200mg at the start of the play and may take a third after I am done,
most probably won't take it. > I don't take any when I don't play. > > I was just wondering if any one had magical ways to deal with it. > > I wear a plantar fasciitis splint at night, it helps reduce the pain when I wake up.my advice would be to ditch
the Advil and use (as bmoore rightly suggests) ibuprofen and take 2 days rest - yes that may suck, but you'll prob be way way better after that for a good week or two. As bmoore says Advil is just a pain killer and won't help with your overuse injury,
whereas the ibu's reduce imflammation which is what your fake plantar fascitis is all about - call it fake plantar fascitis
cos absolutely everyone is now diagnosed with "plantar fascitis" if they have any foot complaint whatsoever these days. 10 years ago physios only told people they had plantar fascitis if it was majorly serious, although even then it was mostly cos they
didn't know what was wrong.

Ice, Advil is ibuprofen.
I know it's plantar fascitis. I have had it before and it has very clear symptoms.
Two days of rest won't cut it, it needs weeks or months to heal.
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On 9/1/23 5:02 PM, The Iceberg wrote:

On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 23:28:56 UTC+1, Scall5 wrote:

On 9/1/2023 1:18 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:

I know it's stupid :)

I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3 hours playing singles 3-4 times a week

Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before playing and during play.

Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that I am playing very constrained.

Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it has to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry my weight.

I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before the freaking winter comes here.

Have any of you experience something like this before? Any shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without stopping playing? :)

My feet used to bother me after playing tennis until I started noticing
that some pro's take off their shoes and socks before leaving the court.
They put on flip-flops or sandals. I started doing that and I noticed
that it allowed my feet to recover much faster (cooling them and
stretching them out I assume). Might want to try that.

Great tip, PWL also try walking around the house bare footed as much as possible to strengthen your arches and toughen up your foot base.

Also, try going to massage parlors as much as possible...

;^)

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On 9/1/23 5:33 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:> The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>> On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 20:43:16 UTC+1, PeteWasLucky wrote:> bmoore <bmo...@nyx.net> Wrote in message:r > > On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 11:58:

31 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:> On 9/1/23 11:18 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote: > > I know it's stupid :) > > > > I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3 hours playing singles
3-4 times a week > > > > Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before playing and during play. > > > > Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that I am playing very constrained. > > > > Also, I started to have
nerve pain in my waist that I believe it has to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry my weight. > > > > I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before the freaking winter comes here. > > > > Have any of you
experience something like this before? Any shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without stopping playing? :) > > > > > >> I sincerely wish you luck with this, Pete. The thing about aspirin-like drugs is that you can't just shove 'em in like you can do
with antibiotics. They kill pain but only for a while. So you can't rely on Advil because it it will stop working if you gobble it down.My first suggestion is to see your doctor. Saw, old man, you agree? > > I am very careful with meds. > I only take
advil before playing, take two 200mg at the start of the play and may take a third after I am done, most probably won't take it. > I don't take any when I don't play. > > I was just wondering if any one had magical ways to deal with it. > > I wear a
plantar fasciitis splint at night, it helps reduce the pain when I wake up.my advice would be to ditch the Advil and use (as bmoore rightly suggests) ibuprofen and take 2 days rest - yes that may suck, but you'll prob be way way better after that for a
good week or two. As bmoore says Advil is just a pain killer and won't help with your overuse injury, whereas the ibu's reduce imflammation which is what your fake plantar fascitis is all about - call it fake plantar fascitis> cos absolutely everyone
is now diagnosed with "plantar fascitis" if they have any foot complaint whatsoever these days. 10 years ago physios only told people they had plantar fascitis if it was majorly serious, although even then it was mostly cos they didn't know what was
wrong.>> Ice, Advil is ibuprofen.> I know it's plantar fascitis. I have had it before and it has very clear symptoms.> Two days of rest won't cut it, it needs weeks or months to heal.To me, the only non-prescription pain med was ibuprofin of some type--
more effective than the tylenol family. I just used the store brand, 600-1800mg per day. It can work, somewhat, but there is a threshold above which it is not good enough.Maybe you are there now.-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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I use 400mg when I play, this is it, and I am forced now to rest a day after I play. So I am not taking much.
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On 2/09/2023 4:18 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:

I know it's stupid :)

I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3 hours playing singles 3-4 times a week

Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before playing and during play.

Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that I am playing very constrained.

Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it has to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry my weight.

I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before the freaking winter comes here.

Have any of you experience something like this before? Any shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without stopping playing? :)

My wife has had plantar fasciitis for maybe close to a year. We've
tried everything but nothing really works, just need to give it time.
She says it's just starting to get a little better now. She never took
it easy though, goes to gym 3-4 times a week and does plenty of
gardening at home.

I can't give any advice, except tell you we really tried everything -
even tens machine, which gave her temporary pain relief. I think you
just have to expect it to be painful for up to 2 years. Hope I never get
it, had tennis elbow twice that was bad enough.

As far as taking pain killers yes I have some knee pains now and again
and taking a few ibrufen pills before playing masks all the pain : )

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On 2/09/2023 5:09 am, bmoore wrote:

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 11:58:31 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/1/23 11:18 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:

I know it's stupid :)

I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3 hours playing singles 3-4 times a week

Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before playing and during play.

Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that I am playing very constrained.

Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it has to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry my weight.

I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before the freaking winter comes here.

Have any of you experience something like this before? Any shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without stopping playing? :)

I sincerely wish you luck with this, Pete.

The thing about aspirin-like drugs is that you can't just shove 'em in like you can do with antibiotics. They kill pain but only for a while. So you can't rely on Advil because it it will stop working if you gobble it down.

My first suggestion is to see your doctor.

Saw, old man, you agree?

Waste of time imo, just need time to get better.

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On 2/09/2023 4:58 am, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/1/23 11:18 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:

I know it's stupid :)

I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of May.
I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3 hours
playing singles 3-4 times a week

Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before
playing and during play.

Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that I
am playing very constrained.

Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it has
to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry my weight.

I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before the
freaking winter comes here.

Have any of you experience something like this before? Any shortcuts
to get this to heal quickly without stopping playing? :)

I sincerely wish you luck with this, Pete.

He'll need it. I've watched my wife go though agonizing pain, but
eventually you get better - a slow process.

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On 2.9.2023 12.52, Whisper wrote:

On 2/09/2023 5:09 am, bmoore wrote:

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 11:58:31 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/1/23 11:18 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:

I know it's stupid :)

I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of
May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3
hours playing singles 3-4 times a week

Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before
playing and during play.

Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that I
am playing very constrained.

Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it has
to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry my
weight.

I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before
the freaking winter comes here.

Have any of you experience something like this before? Any shortcuts
to get this to heal quickly without stopping playing? :)

I sincerely wish you luck with this, Pete.

The thing about aspirin-like drugs is that you can't just shove 'em in
like you can do with antibiotics. They kill pain but only for a while.
So you can't rely on Advil because it it will stop working if you
gobble it down.

My first suggestion is to see your doctor.

Saw, old man, you agree?

Waste of time imo, just need time to get better.

Morphine cures them all.

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Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r

On 2/09/2023 4:58 am, Sawfish wrote:> On 9/1/23 11:18 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:>> I know it's stupid :)>>>> I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of May. >> I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3 hours >>

playing singles 3-4 times a week>>>> Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before >> playing and during play.>>>> Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that I >> am playing very constrained.>>>> Also, I
started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it has >> to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry my weight.>>>> I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before the >> freaking winter comes here.>>>> Have
any of you experience something like this before? Any shortcuts >> to get this to heal quickly without stopping playing? :)>>>>>>> I sincerely wish you luck with this, Pete.> He'll need it. I've watched my wife go though agonizing pain, but eventually
you get better - a slow process.

It's really irritating.
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On 2/09/2023 4:18 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:> I know it's stupid :)> > I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3 hours playing singles 3-4 times a week> > Definitely

it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before playing and during play.> > Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that I am playing very constrained.> > Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it has
to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry my weight.> > I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before the freaking winter comes here.> > Have any of you experience something like this before? Any shortcuts to get
this to heal quickly without stopping playing? :)> > > My wife has had plantar fasciitis for maybe close to a year. We've tried everything but nothing really works, just need to give it time. She says it's just starting to get a little better now. She
never took it easy though, goes to gym 3-4 times a week and does plenty of gardening at home.I can't give any advice, except tell you we really tried everything - even tens machine, which gave her temporary pain relief. I think you just have to expect
it to be painful for up to 2 years. Hope I never get it, had tennis elbow twice that was bad enough.As far as taking pain killers yes I have some knee pains now and again and taking a few ibrufen pills before playing masks all the pain : )

Did your wife do running too while she had this issue?
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On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 4:11:08 AM UTC-7, TT wrote:

PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 1.9.2023 klo 22.43:

bmoore <bmo...@nyx.net> Wrote in message:r

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 11:58:31 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:> On 9/1/23 11:18 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote: > > I know it's stupid :) > > > > I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of May. I never stopped playing tennis and I

could be on court 2-3 hours playing singles 3-4 times a week > > > > Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before playing and during play. > > > > Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that I am playing very
constrained. > > > > Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it has to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry my weight. > > > > I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before the freaking
winter comes here. > > > > Have any of you experience something like this before? Any shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without stopping playing? :) > > > > > >> I sincerely wish you luck with this, Pete. The thing about aspirin-like drugs is that
you can't just shove 'em in like you can do with antibiotics. They kill pain but only for a while. So you can't rely on Advil because it it will stop working if you gobble it down.My first suggestion is to see your doctor. Saw, old man, you agree?

I am very careful with meds.
I only take advil before playing, take two 200mg at the start of the play and may take a third after I am done, most probably won't take it.
I don't take any when I don't play.

I was just wondering if any one had magical ways to deal with it.

I wear a plantar fasciitis splint at night, it helps reduce the pain when I wake up.

This sounds a bit crazy. Something Nadal would do.
I'd definitely stop playing and rest the foot.

Yeah, must remember, Nadal once recovered from a broken foot in 10 minutes. The average guy can't do that. ;)

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On 9/2/23 2:50 AM, Whisper wrote:

On 2/09/2023 4:58 am, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/1/23 11:18 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:

I know it's stupid :)

I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of
May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3
hours playing singles 3-4 times a week

Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before
playing and during play.

Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that I
am playing very constrained.

Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it has
to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry my
weight.

I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before
the freaking winter comes here.

Have any of you experience something like this before? Any shortcuts
to get this to heal quickly without stopping playing? :)

I sincerely wish you luck with this, Pete.

He'll need it.  I've watched my wife go though agonizing pain, but eventually you get better

This was after the divorce, I take it...

;^)

- a slow process.

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On 9/2/23 2:52 AM, Whisper wrote:

On 2/09/2023 5:09 am, bmoore wrote:

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 11:58:31 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/1/23 11:18 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:

I know it's stupid :)

I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of
May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3
hours playing singles 3-4 times a week

Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before
playing and during play.

Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that
I am playing very constrained.

Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it
has to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry
my weight.

I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before
the freaking winter comes here.

Have any of you experience something like this before? Any
shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without stopping playing? :)

I sincerely wish you luck with this, Pete.

The thing about aspirin-like drugs is that you can't just shove 'em
in like you can do with antibiotics. They kill pain but only for a
while. So you can't rely on Advil because it it will stop working if
you gobble it down.

My first suggestion is to see your doctor.

Saw, old man, you agree?

Waste of time imo, just need time to get better.

...if it does.

But yeah, time is what has taken care of weird things I got while
getting older. They just come out of the woodwork--no prior
indications--and you don't even know what they are or even what caused
them. E.g., I had increasingly periods of numbness in my ring finger and
my little finger of my left hand. It happened at night and over a period
of 2-3 years evolved into outright pain, enough to wake me up.

Turned out to be carpal tunnel syndrome. THere is a simple outpatient
surgery done on the base of the heel of your hand, and like magic it's gone.

5 years later the right hand did the same thing and it too was carpal
tunnel. THe surgery took care of it, but within the last 3 years there's
been further nerve deterioration of another kind. This would require
surgery on the elbow.

Time to just say fuck it...the machine is way past warranty. The O rings
are obviously shot...they don't even make the parts anymore, you'd have
to buy used on eBay.

There have been other such very annoying things that just come for no
reason, and after 1-2 years they go away as mysteriously as they came,
never to return (so far). At first I'd get them diagnosed, but I don't
bother any more.

For me the age threshold for this sort of nonsense was ~55-60. Needless
to say, it's all downhill from there.

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On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 8:26:50 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/2/23 7:29 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:

Whisper <whi...@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r

On 2/09/2023 4:58 am, Sawfish wrote:> On 9/1/23 11:18 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:>> I know it's stupid :)>>>> I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of May. >> I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3 hours >>

playing singles 3-4 times a week>>>> Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before >> playing and during play.>>>> Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that I >> am playing very constrained.>>>> Also, I
started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it has >> to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry my weight.>>>> I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before the >> freaking winter comes here.>>>> Have
any of you experience something like this before? Any shortcuts >> to get this to heal quickly without stopping playing? :)>>>>>>> I sincerely wish you luck with this, Pete.> He'll need it. I've watched my wife go though agonizing pain, but eventually
you get better - a slow process.

It's really irritating.

Regrettably, no shortcuts...

There rarely are.

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On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 5:33:04 PM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:

The Iceberg <iceber...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 20:43:16 UTC+1, PeteWasLucky wrote:> bmoore <bmo...@nyx.net> Wrote in message:r > > On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 11:58:31 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:> On 9/1/23 11:18 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote: > > I know it's stupid :) > >
I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3 hours playing singles 3-4 times a week > > > > Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before

playing and during play. > > > > Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that I am playing very constrained. > > > > Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it has to do with the way I am favoring one side of
my body to carry my weight. > > > > I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before the freaking winter comes here. > > > > Have any of you experience something like this before? Any shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without
stopping playing? :) > > > > > >> I sincerely wish you luck with this, Pete. The thing about aspirin-like drugs is that you can't just shove 'em in like you can do with antibiotics. They kill pain but only for a while. So you can't rely on Advil because
it it will stop working if you gobble it down.My first suggestion is to see your doctor. Saw, old man, you agree? > > I am very careful with meds. > I only take advil before playing, take two 200mg at the start of the play and may take a third after I am
done, most probably won't take it. > I don't take any when I don't play. > > I was just wondering if any one had magical ways to deal with it. > > I wear a plantar fasciitis splint at night, it helps reduce the pain when I wake up.my advice would be to
ditch the Advil and use (as bmoore rightly suggests) ibuprofen and take 2 days rest - yes that may suck, but you'll prob be way way better after that for a good week or two. As bmoore says Advil is just a pain killer and won't help with your overuse
injury, whereas the ibu's reduce imflammation which is what your fake plantar fascitis is all about - call it fake plantar fascitis

cos absolutely everyone is now diagnosed with "plantar fascitis" if they have any foot complaint whatsoever these days. 10 years ago physios only told people they had plantar fascitis if it was majorly serious, although even then it was mostly cos they

didn't know what was wrong.

Ice, Advil is ibuprofen.

Yes, ibuprofen is the generic name for Advil or Motrin.

I know it's plantar fascitis. I have had it before and it has very clear symptoms.
Two days of rest won't cut it, it needs weeks or months to heal.

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Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On 9/2/23 2:52 AM, Whisper wrote:> On 2/09/2023 5:09 am, bmoore wrote:>> On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 11:58:31AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:>>> On 9/1/23 11:18 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:>>>> I know it's stupid :)>>>>>>>> I started to feel plantar fasciitis

in my left foot around end of >>>> May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3 >>>> hours playing singles 3-4 times a week>>>>>>>> Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before >>>> playing and during play.>>>>>>>>
Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that >>>> I am playing very constrained.>>>>>>>> Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it >>>> has to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry >>>>
my weight.>>>>>>>> I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before >>>> the freaking winter comes here.>>>>>>>> Have any of you experience something like this before? Any >>>> shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without stopping
playing? :)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I sincerely wish you luck with this, Pete.>>>> The thing about aspirin-like drugs is that you can't just shove 'em >> in like you can do with antibiotics. They kill pain but only for a >> while. So you can't rely on Advil
because it it will stop working if >> you gobble it down.>>>> My first suggestion is to see your doctor.>>>> Saw, old man, you agree?>>> Waste of time imo, just need time to get better....if it does.But yeah, time is what has taken care of weird things I
got while getting older. They just come out of the woodwork--no prior indications--and you don't even know what they are or even what caused them. E.g., I had increasingly periods of numbness in my ring finger and my little finger of my left hand. It
happened at night and over a period of 2-3 years evolved into outright pain, enough to wake me up.Turned out to be carpal tunnel syndrome. THere is a simple outpatient surgery done on the base of the heel of your hand, and like magic it's gone.5 years
later the right hand did the same thing and it too was carpal tunnel. THe surgery took care of it, but within the last 3 years there's been further nerve deterioration of another kind. This would require surgery on the elbow.Time to just say fuck it...
the machine is way past warranty. The O rings are obviously shot...they don't even make the parts anymore, you'd have to buy used on eBay.There have been other such very annoying things that just come for no reason, and after 1-2 years they go away as
mysteriously as they came, never to return (so far). At first I'd get them diagnosed, but I don't bother any more.For me the age threshold for this sort of nonsense was ~55-60. Needless to say, it's all downhill from there.-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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:)

Take care Saw.

But maybe the pain in fingers and wrist are caused by writing all these long posts and I am sure you were doing some kind of writing too (professionally) too.
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On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 10:42:12 AM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:

Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On 9/2/23 2:52 AM, Whisper wrote:> On 2/09/2023 5:09 am, bmoore wrote:>> On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 11:58:31 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:>>> On 9/1/23 11:18 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:>>>> I know it's stupid :)>>>>>>>> I started to feel plantar

fasciitis in my left foot around end of >>>> May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3 >>>> hours playing singles 3-4 times a week>>>>>>>> Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before >>>> playing and during
play.>>>>>>>> Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that >>>> I am playing very constrained.>>>>>>>> Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it >>>> has to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to
carry >>>> my weight.>>>>>>>> I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before >>>> the freaking winter comes here.>>>>>>>> Have any of you experience something like this before? Any >>>> shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without
stopping playing? :)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I sincerely wish you luck with this, Pete.>>>> The thing about aspirin-like drugs is that you can't just shove 'em >> in like you can do with antibiotics. They kill pain but only for a >> while. So you can't rely on
Advil because it it will stop working if >> you gobble it down.>>>> My first suggestion is to see your doctor.>>>> Saw, old man, you agree?>>> Waste of time imo, just need time to get better....if it does.But yeah, time is what has taken care of weird
things I got while getting older. They just come out of the woodwork--no prior indications--and you don't even know what they are or even what caused them. E.g., I had increasingly periods of numbness in my ring finger and my little finger of my left
hand. It happened at night and over a period of 2-3 years evolved into outright pain, enough to wake me up.Turned out to be carpal tunnel syndrome. THere is a simple outpatient surgery done on the base of the heel of your hand, and like magic it's gone.5
years later the right hand did the same thing and it too was carpal tunnel. THe surgery took care of it, but within the last 3 years there's been further nerve deterioration of another kind. This would require surgery on the elbow.Time to just say fuck
it...the machine is way past warranty. The O rings are obviously shot...they don't even make the parts anymore, you'd have to buy used on eBay.There have been other such very annoying things that just come for no reason, and after 1-2 years they go away
as mysteriously as they came, never to return (so far). At first I'd get them diagnosed, but I don't bother any more.For me the age threshold for this sort of nonsense was ~55-60. Needless to say, it's all downhill from there.-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Sawfish: He talks the talk...but does he walk the walk?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

:)

Take care Saw.

But maybe the pain in fingers and wrist are caused by writing all these long posts and I am sure you were doing some kind of writing too (professionally) too.

A lot of it is what angle you hold your hands at when using the keyboard and mouse.

If you've had carpal tunnel you know it sucks.

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On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 12:07:11 PM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/2/23 11:28 AM, bmoore wrote:

On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 10:42:12 AM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:

Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On 9/2/23 2:52 AM, Whisper wrote:> On 2/09/2023 5:09 am, bmoore wrote:>> On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 11:58:31 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:>>> On 9/1/23 11:18 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:>>>> I know it's stupid :)>>>>>>>> I started to feel plantar

fasciitis in my left foot around end of >>>> May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3 >>>> hours playing singles 3-4 times a week>>>>>>>> Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before >>>> playing and during
play.>>>>>>>> Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that >>>> I am playing very constrained.>>>>>>>> Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it >>>> has to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to
carry >>>> my weight.>>>>>>>> I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before >>>> the freaking winter comes here.>>>>>>>> Have any of you experience something like this before? Any >>>> shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without
stopping playing? :)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I sincerely wish you luck with this, Pete.>>>> The thing about aspirin-like drugs is that you can't just shove 'em >> in like you can do with antibiotics. They kill pain but only for a >> while. So you can't rely on
Advil because it it will stop working if >> you gobble it down.>>>> My first suggestion is to see your doctor.>>>> Saw, old man, you agree?>>> Waste of time imo, just need time to get better....if it does.But yeah, time is what has taken care of weird
things I got while getting older. They just come out of the woodwork--no prior indications--and you don't even know what they are or even what caused them. E.g., I had increasingly periods of numbness in my ring finger and my little finger of my left
hand. It happened at night and over a period of 2-3 years evolved into outright pain, enough to wake me up.Turned out to be carpal tunnel syndrome. THere is a simple outpatient surgery done on the base of the heel of your hand, and like magic it's gone.5
years later the right hand did the same thing and it too was carpal tunnel. THe surgery took care of it, but within the last 3 years there's been further nerve deterioration of another kind. This would require surgery on the elbow.Time to just say fuck
it...the machine is way past warranty. The O rings are obviously shot...they don't even make the parts anymore, you'd have to buy used on eBay.There have been other such very annoying things that just come for no reason, and after 1-2 years they go away
as mysteriously as they came, never to return (so far). At first I'd get them diagnosed, but I don't bother any more.For me the age threshold for this sort of nonsense was ~55-60. Needless to say, it's all downhill from there.-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Sawfish: He talks the talk...but does he walk the walk?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

:)

Take care Saw.

But maybe the pain in fingers and wrist are caused by writing all these long posts and I am sure you were doing some kind of writing too (professionally) too.

A lot of it is what angle you hold your hands at when using the keyboard and mouse.

If you've had carpal tunnel you know it sucks.

Mainly I viewed it as an irritant. It had a clear, simple and effective treatment.

interesting. I had it for about 2 weeks. This horrible feeling in my wrist. It popped up out of nowhere but I knew the cause. I used ice and ibuprofen and rode it out, and changed my work habits. All is well for years now. Was super painful though.

But mainly I was using it as an example of stuff just surfacing all of a sudden, just like the kracken in Clash of the Titans.

:-)

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On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 5:33:18 PM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/2/23 4:43 PM, bmoore wrote:

On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 12:07:11 PM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/2/23 11:28 AM, bmoore wrote:

On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 10:42:12 AM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:

Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On 9/2/23 2:52 AM, Whisper wrote:> On 2/09/2023 5:09 am, bmoore wrote:>> On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 11:58:31 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:>>> On 9/1/23 11:18 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:>>>> I know it's stupid :)>>>>>>>> I started to feel plantar

fasciitis in my left foot around end of >>>> May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3 >>>> hours playing singles 3-4 times a week>>>>>>>> Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before >>>> playing and during
play.>>>>>>>> Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that >>>> I am playing very constrained.>>>>>>>> Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it >>>> has to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to
carry >>>> my weight.>>>>>>>> I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before >>>> the freaking winter comes here.>>>>>>>> Have any of you experience something like this before? Any >>>> shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without
stopping playing? :)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I sincerely wish you luck with this, Pete.>>>> The thing about aspirin-like drugs is that you can't just shove 'em >> in like you can do with antibiotics. They kill pain but only for a >> while. So you can't rely on
Advil because it it will stop working if >> you gobble it down.>>>> My first suggestion is to see your doctor.>>>> Saw, old man, you agree?>>> Waste of time imo, just need time to get better....if it does.But yeah, time is what has taken care of weird
things I got while getting older. They just come out of the woodwork--no prior indications--and you don't even know what they are or even what caused them. E.g., I had increasingly periods of numbness in my ring finger and my little finger of my left
hand. It happened at night and over a period of 2-3 years evolved into outright pain, enough to wake me up.Turned out to be carpal tunnel syndrome. THere is a simple outpatient surgery done on the base of the heel of your hand, and like magic it's gone.5
years later the right hand did the same thing and it too was carpal tunnel. THe surgery took care of it, but within the last 3 years there's been further nerve deterioration of another kind. This would require surgery on the elbow.Time to just say fuck
it...the machine is way past warranty. The O rings are obviously shot...they don't even make the parts anymore, you'd have to buy used on eBay.There have been other such very annoying things that just come for no reason, and after 1-2 years they go away
as mysteriously as they came, never to return (so far). At first I'd get them diagnosed, but I don't bother any more.For me the age threshold for this sort of nonsense was ~55-60. Needless to say, it's all downhill from there.-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Sawfish: He talks the talk...but does he walk the walk?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

:)

Take care Saw.

But maybe the pain in fingers and wrist are caused by writing all these long posts and I am sure you were doing some kind of writing too (professionally) too.

A lot of it is what angle you hold your hands at when using the keyboard and mouse.

If you've had carpal tunnel you know it sucks.

Mainly I viewed it as an irritant. It had a clear, simple and effective >> treatment.

interesting. I had it for about 2 weeks. This horrible feeling in my wrist. It popped up out of nowhere but I knew the cause. I used ice and ibuprofen and rode it out, and changed my work habits. All is well for years now. Was super painful though.

But mainly I was using it as an example of stuff just surfacing all of a >> sudden, just like the kracken in Clash of the Titans.

:-)

More than you wanted to know... :^)

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/treatment-tests-and-therapies/carpal-tunnel-release

I first got it maybe 4-5 years after I retired. Had no clue what it was from, or what it was all about. Unexplained numbness in the area of the little and ring finger, and on down the hand to the heel of the hand.
Left alone it turned into something a lot like a throbbing bee sting and could wake me up at night.

That's when I decided to find out about it.

I eventually had both hands done this way.

For me it was like an incredibly tight band was wrapped around my right wrist.

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On 9/1/2023 7:02 PM, The Iceberg wrote:

On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 23:28:56 UTC+1, Scall5 wrote:

On 9/1/2023 1:18 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:

I know it's stupid :)

I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3 hours playing singles 3-4 times a week

Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before playing and during play.

Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that I am playing very constrained.

Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it has to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry my weight.

I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before the freaking winter comes here.

Have any of you experience something like this before? Any shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without stopping playing? :)

My feet used to bother me after playing tennis until I started noticing
that some pro's take off their shoes and socks before leaving the court.
They put on flip-flops or sandals. I started doing that and I noticed
that it allowed my feet to recover much faster (cooling them and
stretching them out I assume). Might want to try that.

Great tip, PWL also try walking around the house bare footed as much as possible to strengthen your arches and toughen up your foot base.

I agree. I NEVER wear shoes in my house; why track all the crap your
shoes pick up at work, on the street, and etc. into your house? Amazing
that many people do that.
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Scall5

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On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 9:06:23 PM UTC-7, Scall5 wrote:

On 9/1/2023 7:02 PM, The Iceberg wrote:

On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 23:28:56 UTC+1, Scall5 wrote:

On 9/1/2023 1:18 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:

I know it's stupid :)

I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3 hours playing singles 3-4 times a week

Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before playing and during play.

Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that I am playing very constrained.

Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it has to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry my weight.

I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before the freaking winter comes here.

Have any of you experience something like this before? Any shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without stopping playing? :)

My feet used to bother me after playing tennis until I started noticing >> that some pro's take off their shoes and socks before leaving the court. >> They put on flip-flops or sandals. I started doing that and I noticed
that it allowed my feet to recover much faster (cooling them and
stretching them out I assume). Might want to try that.

Great tip, PWL also try walking around the house bare footed as much as possible to strengthen your arches and toughen up your foot base.

I agree. I NEVER wear shoes in my house; why track all the crap your
shoes pick up at work, on the street, and etc. into your house? Amazing
that many people do that.

Ah so.

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On 3/09/2023 1:07 am, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/2/23 2:50 AM, Whisper wrote:

On 2/09/2023 4:58 am, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/1/23 11:18 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:

I know it's stupid :)

I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of
May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3
hours playing singles 3-4 times a week

Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before
playing and during play.

Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that I
am playing very constrained.

Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it has
to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry my
weight.

I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before
the freaking winter comes here.

Have any of you experience something like this before? Any shortcuts
to get this to heal quickly without stopping playing? :)

I sincerely wish you luck with this, Pete.

He'll need it.  I've watched my wife go though agonizing pain, but
eventually you get better

This was after the divorce, I take it...

;^)

No, it was after she proposed and waiting for my decision.

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On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 6:29:25 PM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/2/23 5:51 PM, bmoore wrote:

On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 5:33:18 PM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/2/23 4:43 PM, bmoore wrote:

On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 12:07:11 PM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote: >>>> On 9/2/23 11:28 AM, bmoore wrote:

On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 10:42:12 AM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:

Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On 9/2/23 2:52 AM, Whisper wrote:> On 2/09/2023 5:09 am, bmoore wrote:>> On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 11:58:31 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:>>> On 9/1/23 11:18 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:>>>> I know it's stupid :)>>>>>>>> I started to feel plantar

fasciitis in my left foot around end of >>>> May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3 >>>> hours playing singles 3-4 times a week>>>>>>>> Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before >>>> playing and during
play.>>>>>>>> Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that >>>> I am playing very constrained.>>>>>>>> Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it >>>> has to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to
carry >>>> my weight.>>>>>>>> I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before >>>> the freaking winter comes here.>>>>>>>> Have any of you experience something like this before? Any >>>> shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without
stopping playing? :)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I sincerely wish you luck with this, Pete.>>>> The thing about aspirin-like drugs is that you can't just shove 'em >> in like you can do with antibiotics. They kill pain but only for a >> while. So you can't rely on
Advil because it it will stop working if >> you gobble it down.>>>> My first suggestion is to see your doctor.>>>> Saw, old man, you agree?>>> Waste of time imo, just need time to get better....if it does.But yeah, time is what has taken care of weird
things I got while getting older. They just come out of the woodwork--no prior indications--and you don't even know what they are or even what caused them. E.g., I had increasingly periods of numbness in my ring finger and my little finger of my left
hand. It happened at night and over a period of 2-3 years evolved into outright pain, enough to wake me up.Turned out to be carpal tunnel syndrome. THere is a simple outpatient surgery done on the base of the heel of your hand, and like magic it's gone.5
years later the right hand did the same thing and it too was carpal tunnel. THe surgery took care of it, but within the last 3 years there's been further nerve deterioration of another kind. This would require surgery on the elbow.Time to just say fuck
it...the machine is way past warranty. The O rings are obviously shot...they don't even make the parts anymore, you'd have to buy used on eBay.There have been other such very annoying things that just come for no reason, and after 1-2 years they go away
as mysteriously as they came, never to return (so far). At first I'd get them diagnosed, but I don't bother any more.For me the age threshold for this sort of nonsense was ~55-60. Needless to say, it's all downhill from there.-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Sawfish: He talks the talk...but does he walk the walk?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

:)

Take care Saw.

But maybe the pain in fingers and wrist are caused by writing all these long posts and I am sure you were doing some kind of writing too (professionally) too.

A lot of it is what angle you hold your hands at when using the keyboard and mouse.

If you've had carpal tunnel you know it sucks.

Mainly I viewed it as an irritant. It had a clear, simple and effective >>>> treatment.

interesting. I had it for about 2 weeks. This horrible feeling in my wrist. It popped up out of nowhere but I knew the cause. I used ice and ibuprofen and rode it out, and changed my work habits. All is well for years now. Was super painful though.

But mainly I was using it as an example of stuff just surfacing all of a
sudden, just like the kracken in Clash of the Titans.

:-)

More than you wanted to know... :^)

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/treatment-tests-and-therapies/carpal-tunnel-release

I first got it maybe 4-5 years after I retired. Had no clue what it was >> from, or what it was all about. Unexplained numbness in the area of the >> little and ring finger, and on down the hand to the heel of the hand.
Left alone it turned into something a lot like a throbbing bee sting and >> could wake me up at night.

That's when I decided to find out about it.

I eventually had both hands done this way.

For me it was like an incredibly tight band was wrapped around my right wrist.

That's the part they cut, as I understand it.

Any bad effects of that? I presume the band is used for something.

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On 9/2/23 9:06 PM, Scall5 wrote:

On 9/1/2023 7:02 PM, The Iceberg wrote:

On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 23:28:56 UTC+1, Scall5 wrote:

On 9/1/2023 1:18 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:

I know it's stupid :)

I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of
May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3
hours playing singles 3-4 times a week

Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before
playing and during play.

Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that
I am playing very constrained.

Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it
has to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry
my weight.

I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before
the freaking winter comes here.

Have any of you experience something like this before? Any
shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without stopping playing? :)

My feet used to bother me after playing tennis until I started noticing
that some pro's take off their shoes and socks before leaving the
court.
They put on flip-flops or sandals. I started doing that and I noticed
that it allowed my feet to recover much faster (cooling them and
stretching them out I assume). Might want to try that.

Great tip, PWL also try walking around the house bare footed as much
as possible to strengthen your arches and toughen up your foot base.

I agree. I NEVER wear shoes in my house; why track all the crap your
shoes pick up at work, on the street, and etc. into your house?
Amazing that many people do that.

That's basically why Japanese people do that. It's not philosophical,
like some mysterious Eastern ritual.

You dump your shoes on entry, put on house slippers (mine are LL Bean moccasins--just like the Injuns wore...) and you'd feel filthy if you
wore your street shoes indoors for some reason.

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Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On 9/2/23 9:06 PM, Scall5 wrote:> On 9/1/2023 7:02 PM, The Iceberg wrote:>> On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 23:28:56 UTC+1, Scall5 wrote:>>> On 9/1/2023 1:18 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:>>>> I know it's stupid :)>>>>>>>> I started to feel plantar fasciitis

in my left foot around end of >>>> May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3 >>>> hours playing singles 3-4 times a week>>>>>>>> Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before >>>> playing and during play.>>>>>>>>
Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that >>>> I am playing very constrained.>>>>>>>> Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it >>>> has to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry >>>>
my weight.>>>>>>>> I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before >>>> the freaking winter comes here.>>>>>>>> Have any of you experience something like this before? Any >>>> shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without stopping
playing? :)>>> My feet used to bother me after playing tennis until I started noticing>>> that some pro's take off their shoes and socks before leaving the >>> court.>>> They put on flip-flops or sandals. I started doing that and I noticed>>> that it
allowed my feet to recover much faster (cooling them and>>> stretching them out I assume). Might want to try that.>>>> Great tip, PWL also try walking around the house bare footed as much >> as possible to strengthen your arches and toughen up your foot
base.>> I agree. I NEVER wear shoes in my house; why track all the crap your > shoes pick up at work, on the street, and etc. into your house? > Amazing that many people do that.That's basically why Japanese people do that. It's not philosophical, like
some mysterious Eastern ritual.You dump your shoes on entry, put on house slippers (mine are LL Bean moccasins--just like the Injuns wore...) and you'd feel filthy if you wore your street shoes indoors for some reason.


But who does that?

I've never heard of anyone doing it for real.




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On 9/3/23 1:56 AM, Whisper wrote:

On 3/09/2023 1:07 am, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/2/23 2:50 AM, Whisper wrote:

On 2/09/2023 4:58 am, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/1/23 11:18 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:

I know it's stupid :)

I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of
May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3
hours playing singles 3-4 times a week

Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before
playing and during play.

Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that
I am playing very constrained.

Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it
has to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry
my weight.

I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before
the freaking winter comes here.

Have any of you experience something like this before? Any
shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without stopping playing? :)

I sincerely wish you luck with this, Pete.

He'll need it.  I've watched my wife go though agonizing pain, but
eventually you get better

This was after the divorce, I take it...

;^)

No, it was after she proposed and waiting for my decision.

Touché!

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On 9/2/23 11:00 PM, Gracchus wrote:

On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 9:06:23 PM UTC-7, Scall5 wrote:

On 9/1/2023 7:02 PM, The Iceberg wrote:

On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 23:28:56 UTC+1, Scall5 wrote:

On 9/1/2023 1:18 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:

I know it's stupid :)

I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3 hours playing singles 3-4 times a week

Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before playing and during play.

Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that I am playing very constrained.

Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it has to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry my weight.

I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before the freaking winter comes here.

Have any of you experience something like this before? Any shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without stopping playing? :)

My feet used to bother me after playing tennis until I started noticing >>>> that some pro's take off their shoes and socks before leaving the court. >>>> They put on flip-flops or sandals. I started doing that and I noticed
that it allowed my feet to recover much faster (cooling them and
stretching them out I assume). Might want to try that.

Great tip, PWL also try walking around the house bare footed as much as possible to strengthen your arches and toughen up your foot base.

I agree. I NEVER wear shoes in my house; why track all the crap your
shoes pick up at work, on the street, and etc. into your house? Amazing
that many people do that.

Ah so.

Since you're into Japanese customs his AM, here's an interesting aside...

As a kid do you remember Charlie Chan movies, where this inscrutable
oriental Sherlock Holmes solved mysteries, often with the help of his
"Number One Son"?

Well, he's supposed to be Chinese, but in those days white America
didn't much discern the difference between Chinese and Japanese (still
don't, really, but it's unimportant), but get this:

You recall the major league baseball player, Ichiro Suzuki? Well, guess
what "Ichiro" means?

Yep, that's right...

A very common name in Japan.

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On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 1:49:27 PM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:

Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

Who does what, skript?

Who enters the house with his shoes on?

It has to be some kind of maniac, no?
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On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 9:49:48 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/2/23 11:00 PM, Gracchus wrote:

On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 9:06:23 PM UTC-7, Scall5 wrote:

On 9/1/2023 7:02 PM, The Iceberg wrote:

On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 23:28:56 UTC+1, Scall5 wrote:

On 9/1/2023 1:18 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:

I know it's stupid :)

I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3 hours playing singles 3-4 times a week

Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before playing and during play.

Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that I am playing very constrained.

Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it has to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry my weight.

I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before the freaking winter comes here.

Have any of you experience something like this before? Any shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without stopping playing? :)

My feet used to bother me after playing tennis until I started noticing >>>> that some pro's take off their shoes and socks before leaving the court.
They put on flip-flops or sandals. I started doing that and I noticed >>>> that it allowed my feet to recover much faster (cooling them and
stretching them out I assume). Might want to try that.

Great tip, PWL also try walking around the house bare footed as much as possible to strengthen your arches and toughen up your foot base.

I agree. I NEVER wear shoes in my house; why track all the crap your
shoes pick up at work, on the street, and etc. into your house? Amazing >> that many people do that.

Ah so.

Since you're into Japanese customs his AM, here's an interesting aside...

As a kid do you remember Charlie Chan movies, where this inscrutable oriental Sherlock Holmes solved mysteries, often with the help of his "Number One Son"?

Well, he's supposed to be Chinese, but in those days white America
didn't much discern the difference between Chinese and Japanese (still don't, really, but it's unimportant), but get this:

You recall the major league baseball player, Ichiro Suzuki? Well, guess
what "Ichiro" means?

Yep, that's right...

A very common name in Japan.

Japanese culture remains very elusive for Americans. But there have been some interesting western television series in the last few years set partially in Japan. A recent one is "Drops of God," an unlikely limited series about a French woman and Japanese
man competing to inherit the world's most valuable wine collection. Another is "Tokyo Vice," about a Jewish American guy working as a crime reporter in Japan. This one is *loosely* based on a memoir of the same name. One more is Giri/Haji, with action
split between Japan and the UK. I liked the first season quite a bit. Unfortunately, it wasn't renewed.

Interestingly, when filming this, the Japanese actors objected that native Japanese traveling abroad would never enter someone's home without removing their shoes. So the scenes were altered on their advice.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15282746/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2887954/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8001106/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

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On 9/3/23 10:49 AM, *skriptis wrote:

Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

Who does what, skript?

Who enters the house with his shoes on?

It has to be some kind of maniac, no?

Lots of people in the US do. Most, I'd say.

It's guaranteed to be dirty.

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Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

Who does what, skript?

Who enters the house with his shoes on?

It has to be some kind of maniac, no?



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On 9/3/23 10:56 AM, Gracchus wrote:

On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 9:49:48 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/2/23 11:00 PM, Gracchus wrote:

On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 9:06:23 PM UTC-7, Scall5 wrote:

On 9/1/2023 7:02 PM, The Iceberg wrote:

On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 23:28:56 UTC+1, Scall5 wrote:

On 9/1/2023 1:18 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:

I know it's stupid :)

I started to feel plantar fasciitis in my left foot around end of May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3 hours playing singles 3-4 times a week

Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before playing and during play.

Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that I am playing very constrained.

Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it has to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to carry my weight.

I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before the freaking winter comes here.

Have any of you experience something like this before? Any shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without stopping playing? :)

My feet used to bother me after playing tennis until I started noticing >>>>>> that some pro's take off their shoes and socks before leaving the court. >>>>>> They put on flip-flops or sandals. I started doing that and I noticed >>>>>> that it allowed my feet to recover much faster (cooling them and
stretching them out I assume). Might want to try that.

Great tip, PWL also try walking around the house bare footed as much as possible to strengthen your arches and toughen up your foot base.

I agree. I NEVER wear shoes in my house; why track all the crap your
shoes pick up at work, on the street, and etc. into your house? Amazing >>>> that many people do that.

Ah so.

Since you're into Japanese customs his AM, here's an interesting aside...

As a kid do you remember Charlie Chan movies, where this inscrutable
oriental Sherlock Holmes solved mysteries, often with the help of his
"Number One Son"?

Well, he's supposed to be Chinese, but in those days white America
didn't much discern the difference between Chinese and Japanese (still
don't, really, but it's unimportant), but get this:
You recall the major league baseball player, Ichiro Suzuki? Well, guess
what "Ichiro" means?
Yep, that's right...
A very common name in Japan.

Japanese culture remains very elusive for Americans. But there have been some interesting western television series in the last few years set partially in Japan. A recent one is "Drops of God," an unlikely limited series about a French woman and

Japanese man competing to inherit the world's most valuable wine collection. Another is "Tokyo Vice," about a Jewish American guy working as a crime reporter in Japan. This one is *loosely* based on a memoir of the same name. One more is Giri/Haji, with
action split between Japan and the UK. I liked the first season quite a bit. Unfortunately, it wasn't renewed.

Interestingly, when filming this, the Japanese actors objected that native Japanese traveling abroad would never enter someone's home without removing their shoes. So the scenes were altered on their advice.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15282746/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2887954/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8001106/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

Thanks, Gracchus.

Here are some things that may be a bit surprising, and if you think
about them just a bit, and if you're European, or descended from
European folk, you can see *profound* cultural differences are implied.

Start with the idea that most eastern Asian cultures
(Japanese/Chinese/Korean, maybe Vietnamese) recognized an individual's
name as family name first, followed by individual name. This implies the
public primacy of the family over the individual, and it's why there's a
deeply rooted anxiety to not shame one's family. So you might have
Koboyashi Kenji, or as we'd recognize it Kenji Koboyashi. He'd be
referred to as "Koboyashi" routinely outside of the home, and hence if
Kenji fucks up, it's really Koboyashi who fucks up, and he has therefore
made his family look like shit.

They take this *very* seriously.

Now consider how this inhibits personal initiative; you're scared to
take any risk, at all. Scared even to be in a position to make a
decision *in public*. You'll gladly submit to decisions made by others
because at least your ass, and your family's, is not on the line for responsibility for an error.

Now it's possible that Koboyashi might have been the first born male.
Maybe he'd not be Kenji, but Ichiro, son number one.

Does this strike you as lacking in imagination? Not descriptive or even
named after a hero or saint, implying these qualities for the young
male. But what it *does* do is to establish a hierarchy, a status,
within the family.

So it seems to be a status conscious society that fears being wrong
publicly and will take extraordinary steps to avoid that possibility.

There are other equally profound and deep differences. E.g., most
Japanese family names that I've encountered are descriptive place
names--not cities/towns, necessarily but more along the lines of "edge
of the river" or "mountain forest". So no blood lineage information is
passed in the surname.

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On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 9:19:05 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/3/23 8:54 AM, bmoore wrote:

On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 6:29:25 PM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:

On 9/2/23 5:51 PM, bmoore wrote:

On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 5:33:18 PM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote: >>>> On 9/2/23 4:43 PM, bmoore wrote:

On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 12:07:11 PM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote: >>>>>> On 9/2/23 11:28 AM, bmoore wrote:

On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 10:42:12 AM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:

Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On 9/2/23 2:52 AM, Whisper wrote:> On 2/09/2023 5:09 am, bmoore wrote:>> On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 11:58:31 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:>>> On 9/1/23 11:18 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:>>>> I know it's stupid :)>>>>>>>> I started to feel plantar

fasciitis in my left foot around end of >>>> May. I never stopped playing tennis and I could be on court 2-3 >>>> hours playing singles 3-4 times a week>>>>>>>> Definitely it got worse by time and I started to take Advil before >>>> playing and during
play.>>>>>>>> Pain killer is okay for 30 minutes maximum on court but after that >>>> I am playing very constrained.>>>>>>>> Also, I started to have nerve pain in my waist that I believe it >>>> has to do with the way I am favoring one side of my body to
carry >>>> my weight.>>>>>>>> I know I need a long break but I don't want to waste a week before >>>> the freaking winter comes here.>>>>>>>> Have any of you experience something like this before? Any >>>> shortcuts to get this to heal quickly without
stopping playing? :)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I sincerely wish you luck with this, Pete.>>>> The thing about aspirin-like drugs is that you can't just shove 'em >> in like you can do with antibiotics. They kill pain but only for a >> while. So you can't rely on
Advil because it it will stop working if >> you gobble it down.>>>> My first suggestion is to see your doctor.>>>> Saw, old man, you agree?>>> Waste of time imo, just need time to get better....if it does.But yeah, time is what has taken care of weird
things I got while getting older. They just come out of the woodwork--no prior indications--and you don't even know what they are or even what caused them. E.g., I had increasingly periods of numbness in my ring finger and my little finger of my left
hand. It happened at night and over a period of 2-3 years evolved into outright pain, enough to wake me up.Turned out to be carpal tunnel syndrome. THere is a simple outpatient surgery done on the base of the heel of your hand, and like magic it's gone.5
years later the right hand did the same thing and it too was carpal tunnel. THe surgery took care of it, but within the last 3 years there's been further nerve deterioration of another kind. This would require surgery on the elbow.Time to just say fuck
it...the machine is way past warranty. The O rings are obviously shot...they don't even make the parts anymore, you'd have to buy used on eBay.There have been other such very annoying things that just come for no reason, and after 1-2 years they go away
as mysteriously as they came, never to return (so far). At first I'd get them diagnosed, but I don't bother any more.For me the age threshold for this sort of nonsense was ~55-60. Needless to say, it's all downhill from there.-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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:)

Take care Saw.

But maybe the pain in fingers and wrist are caused by writing all these long posts and I am sure you were doing some kind of writing too (professionally) too.

A lot of it is what angle you hold your hands at when using the keyboard and mouse.

If you've had carpal tunnel you know it sucks.

Mainly I viewed it as an irritant. It had a clear, simple and effective
treatment.

interesting. I had it for about 2 weeks. This horrible feeling in my wrist. It popped up out of nowhere but I knew the cause. I used ice and ibuprofen and rode it out, and changed my work habits. All is well for years now. Was super painful

though.

But mainly I was using it as an example of stuff just surfacing all of a
sudden, just like the kracken in Clash of the Titans.

:-)

More than you wanted to know... :^)

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/treatment-tests-and-therapies/carpal-tunnel-release

I first got it maybe 4-5 years after I retired. Had no clue what it was >>>> from, or what it was all about. Unexplained numbness in the area of the >>>> little and ring finger, and on down the hand to the heel of the hand. >>>> Left alone it turned into something a lot like a throbbing bee sting and
could wake me up at night.

That's when I decided to find out about it.

I eventually had both hands done this way.

For me it was like an incredibly tight band was wrapped around my right wrist.

That's the part they cut, as I understand it.

Any bad effects of that? I presume the band is used for something.

No bad effects.

That's mind-blowing, isn't it?

Yes.

THat you can simply cut the fibrous band
that bundles the nerves and tendons, and has evolved to this
configuration for who knows how long.

The operation is transparent. Since the scars are in the major crease in
the heel/palm, you have to work hard to even see it.

I kinda wonder if the band re-heals, but the internal scar tissue makes
the interior circumference of the band larger, relieving any pressure.

I haven't been motivated enough to read up on it.

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