Taylor might be pissed off right now. He lost in the 3rd round at this
years Wimbledon to a (pretty much admitted doping) player:
https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/38258319/mikael-ymer-retires-failing-overturn-doping-suspension
Hope Taylor uses this as added motivation!
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Taylor might be pissed off right now. He lost in the 3rd round at this
years Wimbledon to a (pretty much admitted doping) player:
https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/38258319/mikael-ymer-retires-failing-overturn-doping-suspension
Hope Taylor uses this as added motivation!
Taylor might be pissed off right now. He lost in the 3rd round at this years Wimbledon to a (pretty much admitted doping) player:
https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/38258319/mikael-ymer-retires-failing-overturn-doping-suspension
Hope Taylor uses this as added motivation!
Taylor might be pissed off right now. He lost in the 3rd round at this
years Wimbledon to a (pretty much admitted doping) player:
https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/38258319/mikael-ymer-retires-failing-overturn-doping-suspension
Hope Taylor uses this as added motivation!
On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 1:29:25 AM UTC-4, Scall5 wrote:
Taylor might be pissed off right now. He lost in the 3rd round at this
years Wimbledon to a (pretty much admitted doping) player:
https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/38258319/mikael-ymer-retires-failing-overturn-doping-suspension
Hope Taylor uses this as added motivation!
:)
Fritz is a top ten player. The idea that he needs "motivation" to consider juicing is fanciful IMO. That ship has sailed. Long ago.
On 8/27/2023 6:14 PM, Court_1 wrote:
On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 1:29:25 AM UTC-4, Scall5 wrote:
Taylor might be pissed off right now. He lost in the 3rd round at this
years Wimbledon to a (pretty much admitted doping) player:
https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/38258319/mikael-ymer-retires-failing-overturn-doping-suspension
Hope Taylor uses this as added motivation!
:)What I meant by the post was that Fritz lost a 5 set match at Wimbledon,
Fritz is a top ten player. The idea that he needs "motivation" to consider juicing is fanciful IMO. That ship has sailed. Long ago.
in the second round, to a player who was doping. I personally wouldn't
be too happy about that.
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Scall5
On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 9:19:32 PM UTC-4, Scall5 wrote:
On 8/27/2023 6:14 PM, Court_1 wrote:
On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 1:29:25 AM UTC-4, Scall5 wrote:What I meant by the post was that Fritz lost a 5 set match at Wimbledon,
Taylor might be pissed off right now. He lost in the 3rd round at this >>>> years Wimbledon to a (pretty much admitted doping) player:
https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/38258319/mikael-ymer-retires-failing-overturn-doping-suspension
Hope Taylor uses this as added motivation!
:)
Fritz is a top ten player. The idea that he needs "motivation" to consider juicing is fanciful IMO. That ship has sailed. Long ago.
in the second round, to a player who was doping. I personally wouldn't
be too happy about that.
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Scall5
Yes, I know what you meant. But, IMO all top players dope so I doubt Fritz would be too bothered. Fritz would likely be thinking," boy, what a dummy to get caught."
On 8/27/2023 11:02 PM, Court_1 wrote:
Yes, I know what you meant. But, IMO all top players dope so I doubt Fritz would be too bothered. Fritz would likely be thinking," boy, what a dummy to get caught."
Yeah, you have stated that before ("IMO all top players dope"). Could
that be why Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic have stayed at the top for so
long? I have no idea.
Personally I don't think many players dope at the extent that you
believe. They can be called to give a piss sample within something like
2-3 hours. That isn't enough time to mask one's urine, from what little
I know.
One last thought: Agassi, in his tell-all autobiography, mentioned doing meth. However, I don't recall reading that he did illegal performance enhancing drugs/injections. If Agassi was honest about meth, why would
he not state doing enhancement drugs? He even took a lot of flack after
his book hit the stores that his meth use and non-suspension hurt
tennis, yet he went on talk shows and said that if he was going to write
a 'tell-all' book why lie about anything (including his wig at his first grand slam final - Roland Garros).
Personally I don't think many players dope at the extent that you
believe. They can be called to give a piss sample within something like
2-3 hours. That isn't enough time to mask one's urine, from what little
I know.
One last thought: Agassi, in his tell-all autobiography, mentioned doing meth. However, I don't recall reading that he did illegal performance enhancing drugs/injections. If Agassi was honest about meth, why would
he not state doing enhancement drugs? He even took a lot of flack after
his book hit the stores that his meth use and non-suspension hurt
tennis, yet he went on talk shows and said that if he was going to write
a 'tell-all' book why lie about anything (including his wig at his first grand slam final - Roland Garros).
On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 6:03:04 PM UTC-7, Scall5 wrote:
On 8/27/2023 11:02 PM, Court_1 wrote:
Yes, I know what you meant. But, IMO all top players dope so I doubt Fritz would be too bothered. Fritz would likely be thinking," boy, what a dummy to get caught."
Yeah, you have stated that before ("IMO all top players dope"). Could
that be why Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic have stayed at the top for so long? I have no idea.
Personally I don't think many players dope at the extent that you
believe. They can be called to give a piss sample within something like 2-3 hours. That isn't enough time to mask one's urine, from what little
I know.
One last thought: Agassi, in his tell-all autobiography, mentioned doing meth. However, I don't recall reading that he did illegal performance enhancing drugs/injections. If Agassi was honest about meth, why would
he not state doing enhancement drugs? He even took a lot of flack after his book hit the stores that his meth use and non-suspension hurt
tennis, yet he went on talk shows and said that if he was going to write
a 'tell-all' book why lie about anything (including his wig at his first grand slam final - Roland Garros).
I can think of a very good reason. Meth and his wig are embarrassments. Admitting PED use would invalidate all his titles.
On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 9:03:04 PM UTC-4, Scall5 wrote:important to the tennis business(i.e. Cilic.)
Personally I don't think many players dope at the extent that you
believe. They can be called to give a piss sample within something like
2-3 hours. That isn't enough time to mask one's urine, from what little
I know.
The top players have experts on their teams who know how to mask things. The whole system is set up to NOT catch top players for the most part. The top players who have been "caught" must have pissed some important people off or they're just not that
late 30s play? How any fan thinks they're drug free is laughable and miraculous to me. I just don't get it. It's so damn obvious. Remember, Agassi did say in his book that he failed a drug test and it was swept under the rug. He admitted to that longOne last thought: Agassi, in his tell-all autobiography, mentioned doing
meth. However, I don't recall reading that he did illegal performance
enhancing drugs/injections. If Agassi was honest about meth, why would
he not state doing enhancement drugs? He even took a lot of flack after
his book hit the stores that his meth use and non-suspension hurt
tennis, yet he went on talk shows and said that if he was going to write
a 'tell-all' book why lie about anything (including his wig at his first
grand slam final - Roland Garros).
You think he really told "all" in that book? There's an honor system amongst pro athletes whereby they don't talk about PED use. I'll stand by what I said that every top player dopes. Have you actually watched Nadal, Federer, Djokovic in their mid to
On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 9:22:34 PM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:
On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 6:03:04 PM UTC-7, Scall5 wrote:
On 8/27/2023 11:02 PM, Court_1 wrote:
Yes, I know what you meant. But, IMO all top players dope so I doubt Fritz would be too bothered. Fritz would likely be thinking," boy, what a dummy to get caught."
Yeah, you have stated that before ("IMO all top players dope"). Could that be why Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic have stayed at the top for so long? I have no idea.
Personally I don't think many players dope at the extent that you believe. They can be called to give a piss sample within something like 2-3 hours. That isn't enough time to mask one's urine, from what little I know.
One last thought: Agassi, in his tell-all autobiography, mentioned doing meth. However, I don't recall reading that he did illegal performance enhancing drugs/injections. If Agassi was honest about meth, why would he not state doing enhancement drugs? He even took a lot of flack after his book hit the stores that his meth use and non-suspension hurt tennis, yet he went on talk shows and said that if he was going to write a 'tell-all' book why lie about anything (including his wig at his first grand slam final - Roland Garros).
I can think of a very good reason. Meth and his wig are embarrassments. Admitting PED use would invalidate all his titles.Yes, admitting he used meth and failed a drug test is one thing; admitting PED use is a whole different ball game with much greater ramifications.
Court_1 <olymp...@yahoo.com> wrote:important to the tennis business(i.e. Cilic.)
On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 9:03:04 PM UTC-4, Scall5 wrote:
Personally I don't think many players dope at the extent that you
believe. They can be called to give a piss sample within something like >> 2-3 hours. That isn't enough time to mask one's urine, from what little >> I know.
The top players have experts on their teams who know how to mask things. The whole system is set up to NOT catch top players for the most part. The top players who have been "caught" must have pissed some important people off or they're just not that
late 30s play? How any fan thinks they're drug free is laughable and miraculous to me. I just don't get it. It's so damn obvious. Remember, Agassi did say in his book that he failed a drug test and it was swept under the rug. He admitted to that longOne last thought: Agassi, in his tell-all autobiography, mentioned doing >> meth. However, I don't recall reading that he did illegal performance
enhancing drugs/injections. If Agassi was honest about meth, why would
he not state doing enhancement drugs? He even took a lot of flack after >> his book hit the stores that his meth use and non-suspension hurt
tennis, yet he went on talk shows and said that if he was going to write >> a 'tell-all' book why lie about anything (including his wig at his first >> grand slam final - Roland Garros).
You think he really told "all" in that book? There's an honor system amongst pro athletes whereby they don't talk about PED use. I'll stand by what I said that every top player dopes. Have you actually watched Nadal, Federer, Djokovic in their mid to
I have to be a realist and admit that doping is very prevalent
in professional tennis:
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/tennis/1703897/ATP-top-100-Fernando-Verdasco-doping-ban-tennis-news
It is also easy to do. You just pretend to have ADHD and doctors
in the USA will prescribe amphetamine-based medication for you. The
added bonus is that this is your private, personal illness that
you do not have to disclose to anybody. When you get a proper
dose, the "speed" you use will make you more alert, mentally
focused and also gives you quicker reflexes.
After having been "diagnosed" with ADHD, you only notify
ITF and ATP that you have a legal right to use amphetamine-based
medication. When you are doping tested, nobody can blame you
for having medication for your illness!
I have heard that using "speed" has been common in pro tennis
circles at least from the 1970s.
On Tuesday, 29 August 2023 at 14:10:58 UTC+1, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:that important to the tennis business(i.e. Cilic.)
Court_1 <olymp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 9:03:04 PM UTC-4, Scall5 wrote:
Personally I don't think many players dope at the extent that you
believe. They can be called to give a piss sample within something like >> >> 2-3 hours. That isn't enough time to mask one's urine, from what little >> >> I know.
The top players have experts on their teams who know how to mask things. The whole system is set up to NOT catch top players for the most part. The top players who have been "caught" must have pissed some important people off or they're just not
to late 30s play? How any fan thinks they're drug free is laughable and miraculous to me. I just don't get it. It's so damn obvious. Remember, Agassi did say in his book that he failed a drug test and it was swept under the rug. He admitted to that long
One last thought: Agassi, in his tell-all autobiography, mentioned doing >> >> meth. However, I don't recall reading that he did illegal performance
enhancing drugs/injections. If Agassi was honest about meth, why would
he not state doing enhancement drugs? He even took a lot of flack after >> >> his book hit the stores that his meth use and non-suspension hurt
tennis, yet he went on talk shows and said that if he was going to write >> >> a 'tell-all' book why lie about anything (including his wig at his first >> >> grand slam final - Roland Garros).
You think he really told "all" in that book? There's an honor system amongst pro athletes whereby they don't talk about PED use. I'll stand by what I said that every top player dopes. Have you actually watched Nadal, Federer, Djokovic in their mid
cycling would put up with tennis, the players even have bio passports these days.I have to be a realist and admit that doping is very prevalent
in professional tennis:
no, it's not and you shouldn't be allowed to say it is either.
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/tennis/1703897/ATP-top-100-Fernando-Verdasco-doping-ban-tennis-news
It is also easy to do. You just pretend to have ADHD and doctors
in the USA will prescribe amphetamine-based medication for you. The
added bonus is that this is your private, personal illness that
you do not have to disclose to anybody. When you get a proper
dose, the "speed" you use will make you more alert, mentally
focused and also gives you quicker reflexes.
After having been "diagnosed" with ADHD, you only notify
ITF and ATP that you have a legal right to use amphetamine-based
medication. When you are doping tested, nobody can blame you
for having medication for your illness!
these are exception theraputic usage, they get granted in every sport and are totally documented.
I have heard that using "speed" has been common in pro tennis
circles at least from the 1970s.
that's ancient history, try using speed in a modern tennis game! Look at drunken Serena at Wimbledon a few years ago. Why are you so obsessed with silly conspiracy theories? you think the WADA any-doping folks who outed Lance Armstrong and re-wrote
no, it's not and you shouldn't be allowed to say it is either.
The Iceberg <iceber...@gmail.com> wrote:Why are you so obsessed with silly conspiracy theories? you think the WADA any-doping folks who outed Lance Armstrong and re-wrote cycling would put up with tennis, the players even have bio passports these days.
I guess you did not understand anything.
On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 1:05:30 PM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
no, it's not and you shouldn't be allowed to say it is either.Sit down, baboon! Just because you're senseless, that's not my problem.
On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 8:01:44 PM UTC-4, Court_1 wrote:
On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 1:05:30 PM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
no, it's not and you shouldn't be allowed to say it is either.Sit down, baboon! Just because you're senseless, that's not my problem.
Seriuosly? However, baboons are known to be intelligent animals with advanced problem-solving skills and social behaviors.
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