• Rune...

    From Sawfish@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 26 10:55:52 2023
    I hear a lot about Rune, and it is beginning to remind me of what Ali
    said about Frazier right after Ali was allowed to fight again after his brouhaha with the draft.

    "I keep hearin' 'bout Joe Frazier this, and Joe Frazier that.

    "I'n tahred of hearin' 'bout Joe Frazier."

    I've seen Rune maybe three times. He is a very good athlete, with decent
    size, and very good mechanics. I have never seen him in a long match so
    I don't know about stamina, but his mobility is good. I'm not sure that
    he has as much talent overall as Zverev, but maybe.

    What I *did* notice was that in a recent match--maybe the tournament
    just before Cinnci--he really contested the first set very hard, very
    tough, but lost it.

    He them threw in the towel, mentally. Basically played but was no longer
    in the match. Lost in straight sets.

    I've also watched Sinner--more than Rune--and I've noticed that Sinner--similarly talented--has trouble closing out matches. This could
    be stamina, or it might be mental. But one thing for sure: Sinner
    appears to stay focused and engaged in the match. No foot-dragging and
    moping like Rune that day.

    So I see that Sinner's results are not equal to his apparent talent, but
    cannot pinpoint what, exactly, the problem is, but it does not appear to
    be lack of desire or lack of focus.

    So Rune has to prove that he can compete strongly even in the face of intermediate disappointment. Else he is something like Kyrgios.

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Sat Aug 26 11:11:25 2023
    On Saturday, 26 August 2023 at 18:55:55 UTC+1, Sawfish wrote:
    I hear a lot about Rune, and it is beginning to remind me of what Ali
    said about Frazier right after Ali was allowed to fight again after his brouhaha with the draft.

    "I keep hearin' 'bout Joe Frazier this, and Joe Frazier that.

    "I'n tahred of hearin' 'bout Joe Frazier."

    I've seen Rune maybe three times. He is a very good athlete, with decent size, and very good mechanics. I have never seen him in a long match so
    I don't know about stamina, but his mobility is good. I'm not sure that
    he has as much talent overall as Zverev, but maybe.

    What I *did* notice was that in a recent match--maybe the tournament
    just before Cinnci--he really contested the first set very hard, very
    tough, but lost it.

    He them threw in the towel, mentally. Basically played but was no longer
    in the match. Lost in straight sets.

    I've also watched Sinner--more than Rune--and I've noticed that Sinner--similarly talented--has trouble closing out matches. This could
    be stamina, or it might be mental. But one thing for sure: Sinner
    appears to stay focused and engaged in the match. No foot-dragging and
    moping like Rune that day.

    So I see that Sinner's results are not equal to his apparent talent, but cannot pinpoint what, exactly, the problem is, but it does not appear to
    be lack of desire or lack of focus.

    So Rune has to prove that he can compete strongly even in the face of intermediate disappointment. Else he is something like Kyrgios.

    Sinner's whole problem is he has no clue about winning a slam, he needs a slam winning coach to help him. Rune just needs a bit more focus and toughness.

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Sat Aug 26 18:35:07 2023
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> wrote:
    So Rune has to prove that he can compete strongly even in the face of intermediate disappointment. Else he is something like Kyrgios.

    I just looked at Rune vs Djoker h2h stats. Rune leads 2-1 and I guess
    both of his wins were two sets to one.

    br,
    KK

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to Kalevi Kolttonen on Sat Aug 26 12:25:20 2023
    On 8/26/23 11:35 AM, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> wrote:
    So Rune has to prove that he can compete strongly even in the face of
    intermediate disappointment. Else he is something like Kyrgios.
    I just looked at Rune vs Djoker h2h stats. Rune leads 2-1 and I guess
    both of his wins were two sets to one.

    br,
    KK

    Good data points, KK.

    I still saw him basically quit, and that's troublesome.

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Sun Aug 27 19:32:54 2023
    On 27/08/2023 3:55 am, Sawfish wrote:
    I hear a lot about Rune, and it is beginning to remind me of what Ali
    said about Frazier right after Ali was allowed to fight again after his brouhaha with the draft.

    So I see that Sinner's results are not equal to his apparent talent, but cannot pinpoint what, exactly, the problem is, but it does not appear to
    be lack of desire or lack of focus.

    So Rune has to prove that he can compete strongly even in the face of intermediate disappointment. Else he is something like Kyrgios.



    Rune's game is far more reliable and consistent than serve bot Nick. I
    never thought Nick would win a slam but am confident Rune will win 3 or
    more.

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Sun Aug 27 19:34:33 2023
    On 27/08/2023 4:11 am, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Saturday, 26 August 2023 at 18:55:55 UTC+1, Sawfish wrote:

    So Rune has to prove that he can compete strongly even in the face of
    intermediate disappointment. Else he is something like Kyrgios.

    Sinner's whole problem is he has no clue about winning a slam, he needs a slam winning coach to help him. Rune just needs a bit more focus and toughness.


    Yep, both can win slams for sure, be a shame to waste the big potential.
    Surely Alcaraz won't win every slam for 10 years, there will be opportunities.

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to Whisper on Sun Aug 27 09:19:30 2023
    On 8/27/23 2:32 AM, Whisper wrote:
    On 27/08/2023 3:55 am, Sawfish wrote:
    I hear a lot about Rune, and it is beginning to remind me of what Ali
    said about Frazier right after Ali was allowed to fight again after
    his brouhaha with the draft.

    So I see that Sinner's results are not equal to his apparent talent,
    but cannot pinpoint what, exactly, the problem is, but it does not
    appear to be lack of desire or lack of focus.

    So Rune has to prove that he can compete strongly even in the face of
    intermediate disappointment. Else he is something like Kyrgios.



    Rune's game is far more reliable and consistent than serve bot Nick. 
    I never thought Nick would win a slam but am confident Rune will win 3
    or more.

    Should be fun to watch.

    BTW, Whisp. Has anyone every talked to you about gambling addictions,
    their indications, and how they work?

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Mon Aug 28 18:59:06 2023
    On 28/08/2023 2:19 am, Sawfish wrote:
    On 8/27/23 2:32 AM, Whisper wrote:
    On 27/08/2023 3:55 am, Sawfish wrote:
    I hear a lot about Rune, and it is beginning to remind me of what Ali
    said about Frazier right after Ali was allowed to fight again after
    his brouhaha with the draft.

    So I see that Sinner's results are not equal to his apparent talent,
    but cannot pinpoint what, exactly, the problem is, but it does not
    appear to be lack of desire or lack of focus.

    So Rune has to prove that he can compete strongly even in the face of
    intermediate disappointment. Else he is something like Kyrgios.



    Rune's game is far more reliable and consistent than serve bot Nick. I
    never thought Nick would win a slam but am confident Rune will win 3
    or more.

    Should be fun to watch.

    BTW, Whisp. Has anyone every talked to you about gambling addictions,
    their indications, and how they work?



    Only had 2 bets in my life, for fun.

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to Whisper on Mon Aug 28 05:09:36 2023
    On 8/28/23 1:59 AM, Whisper wrote:
    On 28/08/2023 2:19 am, Sawfish wrote:
    On 8/27/23 2:32 AM, Whisper wrote:
    On 27/08/2023 3:55 am, Sawfish wrote:
    I hear a lot about Rune, and it is beginning to remind me of what
    Ali said about Frazier right after Ali was allowed to fight again
    after his brouhaha with the draft.

    So I see that Sinner's results are not equal to his apparent
    talent, but cannot pinpoint what, exactly, the problem is, but it
    does not appear to be lack of desire or lack of focus.

    So Rune has to prove that he can compete strongly even in the face
    of intermediate disappointment. Else he is something like Kyrgios.



    Rune's game is far more reliable and consistent than serve bot Nick.
    I never thought Nick would win a slam but am confident Rune will win
    3 or more.

    Should be fun to watch.

    BTW, Whisp. Has anyone every talked to you about gambling addictions,
    their indications, and how they work?



    Only had 2 bets in my life, for fun.

    OK, then has anyone talked to you about pathological lying?

    https://youtu.be/hV85E2S-Idw?t=45

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  • From MBDunc@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 29 01:04:30 2023
    Rune is a notch better version of Sinner/Ruud.

    But as like early Murray, current Tsitsi, maybe Nadal 2010->, he is handicapped because his family interaction?

    .mikko

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to MBDunc on Tue Aug 29 19:02:51 2023
    On 29/08/2023 6:04 pm, MBDunc wrote:
    Rune is a notch better version of Sinner/Ruud.

    But as like early Murray, current Tsitsi, maybe Nadal 2010->, he is handicapped because his family interaction?

    .mikko


    He's the next most likely guy to win a slam behind Carlos/Novak.

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