• Re: OT: Finnish boxer Robbe Helenius' doping incident

    From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to Kalevi Kolttonen on Sat Aug 26 12:54:30 2023
    Kalevi Kolttonen <kalevi@kolttonen.fi> wrote:
    According to Finnish tabloid trash magazine
    called Iltalehti:

    "Robbe has eaten some Åland's bull meat that had
    been contamined with doping substances".

    Another Finnish tabloid trash Iltasanomat agrees
    that this has to be a mistake of some kind. Amin
    Asikainen, a former pro boxer himself, just cannot
    believe that Robbe is guilty:

    https://www.is.fi/nyrkkeily/art-2000009811781.html

    Iltasanomat has interviewed Amin on the phone. This is
    what he said in Finnish:

    "– Mietin vain, että ei voi olla totta! Kaikista vähiten
    uskoisin ”Robbesta”. En varmaan usko vieläkään. Uskon yhä,
    että on tapahtunut väärinkäsitys, Asikainen
    ihmettelee puhelimessa."

    My quick 'n dirty translation into English is here:

    "I am just thinking that this cannot be true! The least
    of all I could believe this about "Robbe". I certainly
    still do not believe it. I still believe that this
    is a mistake", Asikainen said on the phone.

    br,
    KK

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 26 12:43:50 2023
    Hello!

    The Finnish professional boxer Robbe Helenius has
    just been caught cheating using doping. Luckily
    we now have a credible explanation. According
    to Finnish tabloid trash magazine called Iltalehti:

    "Robbe has eaten some Åland's bull meat that had
    been contamined with doping substances".

    I am so happy that Robbe turned out to be innocent.
    You see, back in Los Angeles in 1984 Martti Vainio
    got caught using doping. He won silver medal in 10 000
    meter running contest, but he was quickly disqualified.

    Martti was actually innocent, too. His house caretaker
    Alpo Nyrönen had made a bad mistake. Alpo was confused
    about two different syringes. He should have injected
    vitamins into Martti's vein, but instead he gave him
    a shot of containing anabolic steroids.

    When I heard of Robbe's doping incident, I was very
    worried that Alpo Nyrönen had visited Robbe and
    made a big mistake again.

    br,
    KK

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to MBDunc on Sat Aug 26 23:37:14 2023
    MBDunc <michaelb@dnainternet.net> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 3:43:53 PM UTC+3, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:> Hello! > > The Finnish professional boxer Robbe Helenius has > just been caught cheating using doping. Luckily > we now have a credible explanation. According > to Finnish
    tabloid trash magazine called Iltalehti: > > "Robbe has eaten some Åland's bull meat that had > been contamined with doping substances". > > I am so happy that Robbe turned out to be innocent. > You see, back in Los Angeles in 1984 Martti Vainio > got
    caught using doping. He won silver medal in 10 000 > meter running contest, but he was quickly disqualified. > > Martti was actually innocent, too. His house caretaker > Alpo Nyrönen had made a bad mistake. Alpo was confused > about two different
    syringes. He should have injected > vitamins into Martti's vein, but instead he gave him > a shot of containing anabolic steroids. It was revealed years later that whole Alpo Nyrönen story was just a made up excuse.Vainio himself confessed that already
    before Helsinki World Champs 1983 he had started taking doping."Vainio kertoo tänään ilmestyneessä kirjassaan, että hänen suorituskykyään parannettiin testosteronin avulla jo ennen vuoden 1983 Helsingin MM-kisoja. Vainio voitti kotikisoissaan
    pronssia 5000 metrillä.Vainio ei nimeä henkilöitä, jotka suosittelivat hänelle dopingaineiden käyttöä, mutta toteaa, että silloinen urheilujohto tiesi varmasti asiasta.".mikko



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  • From MBDunc@21:1/5 to Kalevi Kolttonen on Sat Aug 26 14:32:15 2023
    On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 3:43:53 PM UTC+3, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
    Hello!

    The Finnish professional boxer Robbe Helenius has
    just been caught cheating using doping. Luckily
    we now have a credible explanation. According
    to Finnish tabloid trash magazine called Iltalehti:

    "Robbe has eaten some Åland's bull meat that had
    been contamined with doping substances".

    I am so happy that Robbe turned out to be innocent.
    You see, back in Los Angeles in 1984 Martti Vainio
    got caught using doping. He won silver medal in 10 000
    meter running contest, but he was quickly disqualified.

    Martti was actually innocent, too. His house caretaker
    Alpo Nyrönen had made a bad mistake. Alpo was confused
    about two different syringes. He should have injected
    vitamins into Martti's vein, but instead he gave him
    a shot of containing anabolic steroids.

    It was revealed years later that whole Alpo Nyrönen story was just a made up excuse.

    Vainio himself confessed that already before Helsinki World Champs 1983 he had started taking doping.

    "Vainio kertoo tänään ilmestyneessä kirjassaan, että hänen suorituskykyään parannettiin testosteronin avulla jo ennen vuoden 1983 Helsingin MM-kisoja. Vainio voitti kotikisoissaan pronssia 5000 metrillä.

    Vainio ei nimeä henkilöitä, jotka suosittelivat hänelle dopingaineiden käyttöä, mutta toteaa, että silloinen urheilujohto tiesi varmasti asiasta."

    .mikko

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  • From MBDunc@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 26 14:57:30 2023
    On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 12:37:18 AM UTC+3, *skriptis wrote:
    MBDunc Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 3:43:53 PM UTC+3, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:> Hello! > > The Finnish professional boxer Robbe Helenius has > just been caught cheating using doping. Luckily > we now have a credible explanation. According > to Finnish
    tabloid trash magazine called Iltalehti: > > "Robbe has eaten some Åland's bull meat that had > been contamined with doping substances". > > I am so happy that Robbe turned out to be innocent. > You see, back in Los Angeles in 1984 Martti Vainio > got
    caught using doping. He won silver medal in 10 000 > meter running contest, but he was quickly disqualified. > > Martti was actually innocent, too. His house caretaker > Alpo Nyrönen had made a bad mistake. Alpo was confused > about two different
    syringes. He should have injected > vitamins into Martti's vein, but instead he gave him > a shot of containing anabolic steroids. It was revealed years later that whole Alpo Nyrönen story was just a made up excuse.Vainio himself confessed that already
    before Helsinki World Champs 1983 he had started taking doping."Vainio kertoo tänään ilmestyneessä kirjassaan, että hänen suorituskykyään parannettiin testosteronin avulla jo ennen vuoden 1983 Helsingin MM-kisoja. Vainio voitti kotikisoissaan
    pronssia 5000 metrillä.Vainio ei nimeä henkilöitä, jotka suosittelivat hänelle dopingaineiden käyttöä, mutta toteaa, että silloinen urheilujohto tiesi varmasti asiasta.".mikko



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    Short translation: ...

    Years later in his book Vainio confessed in his book that he had started taking doping already year+ before his bust 1984.

    .mikko

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to MBDunc on Sun Aug 27 09:39:23 2023
    MBDunc <michaelb@dnainternet.net> wrote:
    It was revealed years later that whole
    Alpo Nyrönen story was just a made up excuse.

    My post was a *joke*. The story about Nyrönen was
    too ridiculous to believe even back in 1984.

    Robbe is not innocent either.

    br,
    KK

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