Should be Carlos right? I know Novak will get no.1 if he wins 1st match at USO and Carlos is defending the title, but he got injured soon after USO last year so has no points to defend.
Should be Carlos right? I know Novak will get no.1 if he wins 1st match at USO and Carlos is defending the title, but he got injured soon after USO last year so has no points to defend.
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Should be Carlos right? I know Novak will get no.1 if he wins 1st match at USO and Carlos is defending the title, but he got injured soon after USO last year so has no points to defend.
Who cares? It's all about Wimbledon. Correct? :)
On 23/08/2023 2:09 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r>> Should be Carlos right? I know Novak will get no.1 if he wins 1st match at USO and Carlos is defending the title, but he got injured soon after USO lastyear so has no points to defend.> > Who cares? It's all about Wimbledon. Correct? :)yr-end no.1 is a stand alone goat level metric and has huge legacy value. It's a big deal Novak has 7, Sampras 6. History cares about these things.
Whisper <whi...@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:ryear so has no points to defend.> > Who cares? It's all about Wimbledon. Correct? :)yr-end no.1 is a stand alone goat level metric and has huge legacy value. It's a big deal Novak has 7, Sampras 6. History cares about these things.
On 23/08/2023 2:09 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Whisper <whi...@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r>> Should be Carlos right? I know Novak will get no.1 if he wins 1st match at USO and Carlos is defending the title, but he got injured soon after USO last
I thought Wimbledon is the grand prize in tennis, someone here said this million times.
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Not if Fed has it! Hoad was the greatest, followed by Mac, Pete and Pancho!
Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:ryear so has no points to defend.> > Who cares? It's all about Wimbledon. Correct? :)yr-end no.1 is a stand alone goat level metric and has huge legacy value. It's a big deal Novak has 7, Sampras 6. History cares about these things.
On 23/08/2023 2:09 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r>> Should be Carlos right? I know Novak will get no.1 if he wins 1st match at USO and Carlos is defending the title, but he got injured soon after USO last
I thought Wimbledon is the grand prize in tennis, someone here said this million times.
On 24/08/2023 2:13 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r>> On 23/08/2023 2:09 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r>> Should be Carlos right? I know Novak will get no.1 ifhe wins 1st match at USO and Carlos is defending the title, but he got injured soon after USO last year so has no points to defend.> > Who cares? It's all about Wimbledon. Correct? :)yr-end no.1 is a stand alone goat level metric and has huge legacy
Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r> On 24/08/2023 2:13 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r>> On 23/08/2023 2:09 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r>>Should be Carlos right? I know Novak will get no.1 if he wins 1st match at USO and Carlos is defending the title, but he got injured soon after USO last year so has no points to defend.> > Who cares? It's all about Wimbledon. Correct? :)yr-end no.1 is a
On 24/08/2023 2:35 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:
Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r
On 24/08/2023 2:13 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Whisper
<whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r>> On 23/08/2023 2:09 am,
PeteWasLucky wrote:> Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in
message:r>> Should be Carlos right? I know Novak will get no.1 if he
wins 1st match at USO and Carlos is defending the title, but he got
injured soon after USO last year so has no points to defend.> > Who
cares? It's all about Wimbledon. Correct? :)yr-end no.1 is a stand
alone goat level metric and has huge legacy value. It's a big deal
Novak has 7, Sampras 6. History cares about these things.> > I
thought Wimbledon is the grand prize in tennis, someone here said
this million times.Yes Wimbledon is the biggest tournament, stop
wasting time with nonsense. It speaks volumes that Novak is 3-0 v
Federer in Wimbledon finals. It's not Federer's fault he won most of
his slams and Wimbledons before Nadal/Novak peaked, he can only play
the clowns in front of him.Federer had a great yr end no.1 record, 1
more than McEnroe and Lendl. Yes he played 10 yrs longer but it still
counts in the record books. It's not easy to match Nadal with 5 yr
end No.1 and it's not his fault he got a soft era before Nadal/Novak
came on.
What is Pete's record in Wimbledon against Novak?
Also, I thought Federer won a couple of Wimbledon titles against
Pete-on-steroids, which isn't bad, don't you agree?
Fed also lost to Nadal at Wimbledon. Sampras said he was licking his
lips watching Nadal stay behind baseline on grass at Wimbledon,
defenseless deer.
Whisper kirjoitti 24.8.2023 klo 10.32:> On 24/08/2023 2:35 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:>> Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r>>> On 24/08/2023 2:13 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Whisper >>> <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r>> On 23/08/2023 2:09 am, >>> PeteWasLucky wrote:> Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in >>> message:r>> Should be Carlos right? I know Novak will get no.1 if he >>> wins 1st match at USO and Carlos is defending the title, but he got >>> injured soon after USO
Federer's fault he won most of >>> his slams and Wimbledons before Nadal/Novak peaked, he can only play >>> the clowns in front of him.Federer had a great yr end no.1 record, 1 >>> more than McEnroe and Lendl. Yes he played 10 yrs longer but it still >>>thought Wimbledon is the grand prize in tennis, someone here said >>> this million times.Yes Wimbledon is the biggest tournament, stop >>> wasting time with nonsense. It speaks volumes that Novak is 3-0 v >>> Federer in Wimbledon finals. It's not
*skriptis kirjoitti 24.8.2023 klo 11.16:> TT <TT@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r>> Whisper kirjoitti 24.8.2023 klo 10.32:> On 24/08/2023 2:35 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:>> Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r>>> On 24/08/2023 2:13 am,PeteWasLucky wrote:> Whisper >>> <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r>> On 23/08/2023 2:09 am, >>> PeteWasLucky wrote:> Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in >>> message:r>> Should be Carlos right? I know Novak will get no.1 if he >>> wins
//youtu.be/SgLNcslQqtA?si=VCuCd6opBTVwBweA> > Tsonga played best drop volleys of his life in that match.Plus... he has a BIG forehand too.On the other hand I agree that it can be suicidal to go to the net against Nadal. But it all depends on your execution, style etc. It's not doomed in advance as you suggest.> > E.g. Tsonga charged the net in AO 2008 SF against Nadal and won.> > https:
E.g. Tsonga charged the net in AO 2008 SF against Nadal and won.
https://youtu.be/SgLNcslQqtA?si=VCuCd6opBTVwBweA
Tsonga played best drop volleys of his life in that match.
Plus... he has a BIG forehand too.
On 24/08/2023 2:35 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:
Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r
On 24/08/2023 2:13 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Whisper
<whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r>> On 23/08/2023 2:09 am,
PeteWasLucky wrote:> Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in
message:r>> Should be Carlos right? I know Novak will get no.1 if he
wins 1st match at USO and Carlos is defending the title, but he got
injured soon after USO last year so has no points to defend.> > Who
cares? It's all about Wimbledon. Correct? :)yr-end no.1 is a stand
alone goat level metric and has huge legacy value. It's a big deal
Novak has 7, Sampras 6. History cares about these things.> > I
thought Wimbledon is the grand prize in tennis, someone here said
this million times.Yes Wimbledon is the biggest tournament, stop
wasting time with nonsense. It speaks volumes that Novak is 3-0 v
Federer in Wimbledon finals. It's not Federer's fault he won most of
his slams and Wimbledons before Nadal/Novak peaked, he can only play
the clowns in front of him.Federer had a great yr end no.1 record, 1
more than McEnroe and Lendl. Yes he played 10 yrs longer but it still
counts in the record books. It's not easy to match Nadal with 5 yr
end No.1 and it's not his fault he got a soft era before Nadal/Novak
came on.
What is Pete's record in Wimbledon against Novak?
Also, I thought Federer won a couple of Wimbledon titles against
Pete-on-steroids, which isn't bad, don't you agree?
Fed also lost to Nadal at Wimbledon. Sampras said he was licking his
lips
On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 11:40:18 AM UTC+3, TT wrote:
E.g. Tsonga charged the net in AO 2008 SF against Nadal and won.Tsonga played best drop volleys of his life in that match.
https://youtu.be/SgLNcslQqtA?si=VCuCd6opBTVwBweA
Plus... he has a BIG forehand too.
Tsonga was good, but effectively not-that-great.
He zoned at AO SF 2008 (and there and there later - he also beat Fed twice at slams? - but so did Berdych, right?)
Connors said: "you see opponent zoning, you can only hope that it won't last".
On 24.8.2023 13.02, MBDunc wrote:
On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 11:40:18 AM UTC+3, TT wrote:
E.g. Tsonga charged the net in AO 2008 SF against Nadal and won.Tsonga played best drop volleys of his life in that match.
https://youtu.be/SgLNcslQqtA?si=VCuCd6opBTVwBweA
Plus... he has a BIG forehand too.
Tsonga was good, but effectively not-that-great.
He zoned at AO SF 2008 (and there and there later - he also beat Fed twice at slams? - but so did Berdych, right?)
Connors said: "you see opponent zoning, you can only hope that it won't last".In the same vein: "I never lost. I just ran out of time". I think
Connors said that too.
But he never played against CEIB.
Whisper kirjoitti 24.8.2023 klo 10.32:
On 24/08/2023 2:35 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:
Fed also lost to Nadal at Wimbledon. Sampras said he was licking his
lips watching Nadal stay behind baseline on grass at Wimbledon,
defenseless deer.
And Nadal was licking his lips thinking of Sampras' groundies. Anyway
you're talkin crap since Nadal is the last person you want to rush the
net against. The ball comes hard & dips at the net. When Fed came at the
net and Nadal hit a passing shot Mac said the shot nearly took racket
out of Fed's hand.
On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 11:40:18 AM UTC+3, TT wrote:
E.g. Tsonga charged the net in AO 2008 SF against Nadal and won.Tsonga played best drop volleys of his life in that match.
https://youtu.be/SgLNcslQqtA?si=VCuCd6opBTVwBweA
Plus... he has a BIG forehand too.
Tsonga was good, but effectively not-that-great.
He zoned at AO SF 2008 (and there and there later - he also beat Fed twice at slams? - but so did Berdych, right?)
Connors said: "you see opponent zoning, you can only hope that it won't last".
.mikko
On 24.8.2023 10.32, Whisper wrote:
On 24/08/2023 2:35 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:
Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r
On 24/08/2023 2:13 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Whisper
<whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r>> On 23/08/2023 2:09 am,
PeteWasLucky wrote:> Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in
message:r>> Should be Carlos right? I know Novak will get no.1 if
he wins 1st match at USO and Carlos is defending the title, but he
got injured soon after USO last year so has no points to defend.> >
Who cares? It's all about Wimbledon. Correct? :)yr-end no.1 is a
stand alone goat level metric and has huge legacy value. It's a big
deal Novak has 7, Sampras 6. History cares about these things.> > I
thought Wimbledon is the grand prize in tennis, someone here said
this million times.Yes Wimbledon is the biggest tournament, stop
wasting time with nonsense. It speaks volumes that Novak is 3-0 v
Federer in Wimbledon finals. It's not Federer's fault he won most
of his slams and Wimbledons before Nadal/Novak peaked, he can only
play the clowns in front of him.Federer had a great yr end no.1
record, 1 more than McEnroe and Lendl. Yes he played 10 yrs longer
but it still counts in the record books. It's not easy to match
Nadal with 5 yr end No.1 and it's not his fault he got a soft era
before Nadal/Novak came on.
What is Pete's record in Wimbledon against Novak?
Also, I thought Federer won a couple of Wimbledon titles against
Pete-on-steroids, which isn't bad, don't you agree?
Fed also lost to Nadal at Wimbledon. Sampras said he was licking his
lips
It's "chopping his licks".
Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:the biggest matches. Djokovic owns Federer at Wimbledon, and I'm pretty sure Sampras wouldn't have much trouble beating Nadal. Sampras' strengths are perfect for grass, can't say the same for Rafa. So the ultimate Wimbledon match for me (modern
Lots of players came to net but they weren't that good. Cressy does it all the time. I would love to have seen Sampras v Djokovic at Wimbledon - that's a true contrast in styles and would never be boring to watch, and both guys are mentally tough in
I could see Sampras winning 4 or 5 of their first 5 meetings, and Djokovic making it close in later stages, turning it around after analyzing Sampras, improving etc, winning 3 or 4 out of the next 5?
Kinda like his rivalry with Nadal on clay, but on a lesser scale.
Sampras cca 6 wins in 10 matches.
Lots of players came to net but they weren't that good. Cressy does it all the time. I would love to have seen Sampras v Djokovic at Wimbledon - that's a true contrast in styles and would never be boring to watch, and both guys are mentally tough inthe biggest matches. Djokovic owns Federer at Wimbledon, and I'm pretty sure Sampras wouldn't have much trouble beating Nadal. Sampras' strengths are perfect for grass, can't say the same for Rafa. So the ultimate Wimbledon match for me (modern
Kinda like his rivalry with Nadal on clay, but on a lesser scale.
Sampras cca 6 wins in 10 matches.
On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 4:37:22 PM UTC+3, *skriptis wrote:
Kinda like his rivalry with Nadal on clay, but on a lesser scale.
Sampras cca 6 wins in 10 matches.
Fed / Sampras / Djoker all have 7/8 Wimbs.
Regs have not changed that much. All those names have a set of evidence they can have a claim......
From Wimb/grass point-of-view....... .
Fed: most Wimbs, most grass court titles, longest grass court win-streak. (this was smt like four-years+?)
Pete: bowed to no one. Man to beat when things got tough on faster courts.... Djoker: just modest seven Wimbs, meantime won 3 of Wimb finals against Fed.
Fed wins via absolute numbers, but then Pete/Djoker climb back with h2h and clutch play numbers? ....but how you value these?
.mikko
On 24/08/2023 6:07 pm, TT wrote:
Whisper kirjoitti 24.8.2023 klo 10.32:
On 24/08/2023 2:35 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:
Fed also lost to Nadal at Wimbledon. Sampras said he was licking his
lips watching Nadal stay behind baseline on grass at Wimbledon,
defenseless deer.
And Nadal was licking his lips thinking of Sampras' groundies. Anyway
you're talkin crap since Nadal is the last person you want to rush the
net against. The ball comes hard & dips at the net. When Fed came at
the net and Nadal hit a passing shot Mac said the shot nearly took
racket out of Fed's hand.
Federer has poor instinct for net play, doesn't know how to hit an
effective approach shot.
On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 11:40:18 AM UTC+3, TT wrote:Agreed. Given his size and, well, bulkiness, he was what'd call
Tsonga was good, but effectively not-that-great.E.g. Tsonga charged the net in AO 2008 SF against Nadal and won.Tsonga played best drop volleys of his life in that match.
https://youtu.be/SgLNcslQqtA?si=VCuCd6opBTVwBweA
Plus... he has a BIG forehand too.
He zoned at AO SF 2008 (and there and there later - he also beat Fed twice at slams? - but so did Berdych, right?)
Connors said: "you see opponent zoning, you can only hope that it won't last".
.mikko
On 24/08/2023 8:02 pm, MBDunc wrote:
On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 11:40:18 AM UTC+3, TT wrote:
E.g. Tsonga charged the net in AO 2008 SF against Nadal and won.Tsonga played best drop volleys of his life in that match.
https://youtu.be/SgLNcslQqtA?si=VCuCd6opBTVwBweA
Plus... he has a BIG forehand too.
Tsonga was good, but effectively not-that-great.
He zoned at AO SF 2008 (and there and there later - he also beat Fed
twice at slams? - but so did Berdych, right?)
Connors said: "you see opponent zoning, you can only hope that it
won't last".
.mikko
Connors was good at hanging tough and waiting for opponent to come
back to earth, perfect example at Wimbledon Pernfors led 6-1 6-1 4-1
and lost 1-6 1-6 7-5 6-4 6-2 - very famous match : )
On 24/08/2023 6:07 pm, TT wrote:
Whisper kirjoitti 24.8.2023 klo 10.32:
On 24/08/2023 2:35 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:
Fed also lost to Nadal at Wimbledon. Sampras said he was licking
his lips watching Nadal stay behind baseline on grass at Wimbledon,
defenseless deer.
And Nadal was licking his lips thinking of Sampras' groundies. Anyway
you're talkin crap since Nadal is the last person you want to rush
the net against. The ball comes hard & dips at the net. When Fed came
at the net and Nadal hit a passing shot Mac said the shot nearly took
racket out of Fed's hand.
Federer has poor instinct for net play, doesn't know how to hit an
effective approach shot.
On 24/08/2023 6:16 pm, *skriptis wrote:
TT <TT@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r
Whisper kirjoitti 24.8.2023 klo 10.32:> On 24/08/2023 2:35 am,
PeteWasLucky wrote:>> Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in
message:r>>> On 24/08/2023 2:13 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Whisper >>>
<whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r>> On 23/08/2023 2:09 am,
if he >>> wins 1st match at USO and Carlos is defending the title,PeteWasLucky wrote:> Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in
message:r>> Should be Carlos right? I know Novak will get no.1
but he got >>> injured soon after USO last year so has no points to
defend.> > Who >>> cares? It's all about Wimbledon. Correct?
:)yr-end no.1 is a stand >>> alone goat level metric and has huge
legacy value. It's a big deal >>> Novak has 7, Sampras 6. History
cares about these things.> > I >>> thought Wimbledon is the grand
prize in tennis, someone here said >>> this million times.Yes
Wimbledon is the biggest tournament, stop >>> wasting time with
nonsense. It speaks volumes that Novak is 3-0 v >>> Federer in
Wimbledon finals. It's not Federer's fault he won most of >>> his
slams and Wimbledons before Nadal/Novak peaked, he can only play >>>
the clowns in front of him.Federer had a great yr end no.1 record, 1
still >>> counts in the record books. It's not easy to match Nadalmore than McEnroe and Lendl. Yes he played 10 yrs longer but it
with 5 yr >>> end No.1 and it's not his fault he got a soft era
before Nadal/Novak >>> came on.>>>> What is Pete's record in
Wimbledon against Novak?>>>> Also, I thought Federer won a couple of
Wimbledon titles against >> Pete-on-steroids, which isn't bad,
don't you agree?> > > Fed also lost to Nadal at Wimbledon. Sampras
said he was licking his > lips watching Nadal stay behind baseline
on grass at Wimbledon, > defenseless deer.> > And Nadal was licking
his lips thinking of Sampras' groundies. Anyway you're talkin crap
since Nadal is the last person you want to rush the net against. The
ball comes hard & dips at the net. When Fed came at the net and
Nadal hit a passing shot Mac said the shot nearly took racket out of
Fed's hand.
Obviously Sampras would not have charged the net in Federer style so
you can't really say that what you just said.
On the other hand I agree that it can be suicidal to go to the net
against Nadal. But it all depends on your execution, style etc. It's
not doomed in advance as you suggest.
E.g. Tsonga charged the net in AO 2008 SF against Nadal and won.
https://youtu.be/SgLNcslQqtA?si=VCuCd6opBTVwBweA
Lots of players came to net but they weren't that good. Cressy does
it all the time. I would love to have seen Sampras v Djokovic at
Wimbledon - that's a true contrast in styles and would never be boring
to watch, and both guys are mentally tough in the biggest matches.
Djokovic owns Federer at Wimbledon, and I'm pretty sure Sampras
wouldn't have much trouble beating Nadal. Sampras' strengths are
perfect for grass, can't say the same for Rafa. So the ultimate
Wimbledon match for me (modern players) would be the 7 time champs
Sampras v Djokovic. Not sure who would win - can see both winning -
but I suspect Sampras would come through. Don't think he'd lose 40-15 serving for the match. But then again I wouldn't be surprised if
Novak won too. I'd just love to see it : )
On 24.8.2023 16.20, Whisper wrote:
On 24/08/2023 6:07 pm, TT wrote:
Whisper kirjoitti 24.8.2023 klo 10.32:
On 24/08/2023 2:35 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:
Fed also lost to Nadal at Wimbledon. Sampras said he was licking
his lips watching Nadal stay behind baseline on grass at Wimbledon,
defenseless deer.
And Nadal was licking his lips thinking of Sampras' groundies. Anyway
you're talkin crap since Nadal is the last person you want to rush
the net against. The ball comes hard & dips at the net. When Fed came
at the net and Nadal hit a passing shot Mac said the shot nearly took
racket out of Fed's hand.
Federer has poor instinct for net play, doesn't know how to hit an
effective approach shot.
I think he has excellent net instincts. The stomp volley is one of the
best. If there was something you could complain about, it's maybe his
first volley when he S&Vs.
BUt it's not a bigus dealus. Nowadays, the FH is the de facto first
volley. So it is with Fed. Serve & Sweep works on all surfaces, and the
real first volley is for the occasions you want to scare the opponent by being offbeat.
On 24/08/2023 6:07 pm, TT wrote:
Whisper kirjoitti 24.8.2023 klo 10.32:
On 24/08/2023 2:35 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:
Fed also lost to Nadal at Wimbledon. Sampras said he was licking his
lips watching Nadal stay behind baseline on grass at Wimbledon,
defenseless deer.
And Nadal was licking his lips thinking of Sampras' groundies. Anyway you're talkin crap since Nadal is the last person you want to rush the
net against. The ball comes hard & dips at the net. When Fed came at the net and Nadal hit a passing shot Mac said the shot nearly took racket
out of Fed's hand.
Federer has poor instinct for net play, doesn't know how to hit an
effective approach shot.
On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 9:20:15 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
On 24/08/2023 6:07 pm, TT wrote:
Whisper kirjoitti 24.8.2023 klo 10.32:Federer has poor instinct for net play, doesn't know how to hit an
On 24/08/2023 2:35 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:
Fed also lost to Nadal at Wimbledon. Sampras said he was licking his
lips watching Nadal stay behind baseline on grass at Wimbledon,
defenseless deer.
And Nadal was licking his lips thinking of Sampras' groundies. Anyway
you're talkin crap since Nadal is the last person you want to rush the
net against. The ball comes hard & dips at the net. When Fed came at the >>> net and Nadal hit a passing shot Mac said the shot nearly took racket
out of Fed's hand.
effective approach shot.
Who hit better approach shots in the last twenty years or even thirty years? And who were the opponents?
On 28/08/2023 3:21 pm, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 9:20:15AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:>> On 24/08/2023 6:07 pm, TT wrote:>>> Whisper kirjoitti 24.8.2023 klo 10.32:>>>> On 24/08/2023 2:35 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>> Fedalso lost to Nadal at Wimbledon. Sampras said he was licking his>>>> lips watching Nadal stay behind baseline on grass at Wimbledon,>>>> defenseless deer.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And Nadal was licking his lips thinking of Sampras' groundies. Anyway>>> you're
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